Exiting NAFTA – The Myth of Global Markets…

If the U.S. were to exit NAFTA (North American Free Trade Agreement), the price you pay for most foodstuff at the grocery store would drop 10% in the first quarter and likely drop 20% or more by the end of the first year. Here’s why:

Approximately a decade ago the U.S. Dept of Agriculture stopped tracking, and reporting, U.S. consumer food prices. The food sector joined the ranks of fuel and energy in no longer being measured to track inflation and backdrop Fed monetary policy. Not coincidentally this was simultaneous to U.S. consumers seeing massive inflation in the same sector.

There are massive international corporate and financial interests who are inherently at risk from President Trump’s “America-First” economic and trade platform. Believe it or not, President Trump is up against an entire world economic establishment.

When you understand how trade works in the modern era you will understand why the agents within the system are so adamantly opposed to U.S. President Trump.

The biggest lie in modern economics, willingly spread and maintained by corporate media, is that a system of global markets still exists.

It doesn’t.

Every element of global economic trade is controlled and exploited by massive institutions, multinational banks and multinational corporations. Institutions like the World Trade Organization (WTO) and World Bank control trillions of dollars in economic activity. Underneath that economic activity there are people who hold the reigns of power over the outcomes. These individuals and groups are the stakeholders in direct opposition to principles of America-First national economics.

The modern financial constructs of these entities have been established over the course of the past three decades. When you understand how they manipulate the economic system of individual nations you begin to understand understand why they are so fundamentally opposed to President Trump.

In the Western World, separate from communist control perspectives (ie. China), “Global markets” are a modern myth; nothing more than a talking point meant to keep people satiated with sound bites they might find familiar. Global markets have been destroyed over the past three decades by multinational corporations who control the products formerly contained within global markets.

The same is true for “Commodities Markets”. The multinational trade and economic system, run by corporations and multinational banks, now controls the product outputs of independent nations. The free market economic system has been usurped by entities who create what is best described as ‘controlled markets’.

U.S. President Trump smartly understands what has taken place. Additionally he uses economic leverage as part of a broader national security policy; and to understand who opposes President Trump specifically because of the economic leverage he creates, it becomes important to understand the objectives of the global and financial elite who run and operate the institutions. The Big Club.

Understanding how trillions of trade dollars influence geopolitical policy we begin to understand the three-decade global financial construct they seek to protect.

That is, global financial exploitation of national markets.


♦Multinational corporations purchase controlling interests in various national outputs and industries of developed industrial western nations.

♦The Multinational Corporations making the purchases are underwritten by massive global financial institutions, multinational banks.

♦The Multinational Banks and the Multinational Corporations then utilize lobbying interests to manipulate the internal political policy of the targeted nation state(s).

♦With control over the targeted national industry or interest, the multinationals then leverage export of the national asset (exfiltration) through trade agreements structured to the benefit of lesser developed nation states – where they have previously established a proactive financial footprint.

Against the backdrop of President Trump confronting China, and against the backdrop of NAFTA being renegotiated, revisiting the economic influences within the import/export dynamic will help conceptualize the issues at the heart of the matter. There are a myriad of interests within each trade sector that make specific explanation very challenging; however, here’s the basic outline.

For three decades economic “globalism” has advanced, quickly. Everyone accepts this statement, yet few actually stop to ask who and what are behind this – and why?

Influential people with vested financial interests in the process have sold a narrative that global manufacturing, global sourcing, and global production was the inherent way of the future. The same voices claimed the American economy was consigned to become a “service-driven economy.”

What was always missed in these discussions is that advocates selling this global-economy message have a vested financial and ideological interest in convincing the information consumer it is all just a natural outcome of economic progress.

It’s not.

It’s not natural at all. It is a process that is entirely controlled, promoted and utilized by large conglomerates and massive financial corporations.

Again, I’ll try to retain the larger altitude perspective without falling into the traps of the esoteric weeds. I freely admit this is tough to explain and I may not be successful.

Bulletpoint #1: ♦ Multinational corporations purchase controlling interests in various national elements of developed industrial western nations.

This is perhaps the most challenging to understand. In essence, thanks specifically to the way the World Trade Organization (WTO) was established in 1995, national companies expanded their influence into multiple nations, across a myriad of industries and economic sectors (energy, agriculture, raw earth minerals, etc.). This is the basic underpinning of national companies becoming multinational corporations.

Think of these multinational corporations as global entities now powerful enough to reach into multiple nations -simultaneously- and purchase controlling interests in a single economic commodity.

A historic reference point might be the original multinational enterprise, energy via oil production. (Exxon, Mobil, BP, etc.)

However, in the modern global world, it’s not just oil; the resource and product procurement extends to virtually every possible commodity and industry. From the very visible (wheat/corn) to the obscure (small minerals, and even flowers).

Bulletpoint #2 ♦ The Multinational Corporations making the purchases are underwritten by massive global financial institutions, multinational banks.

During the past several decades national companies merged. The largest lemon producer company in Brazil, merges with the largest lemon company in Mexico, merges with the largest lemon company in Argentina, merges with the largest lemon company in the U.S., etc. etc. National companies, formerly of one nation, become “continental” companies with control over an entire continent of nations.

…. or it could be over several continents or even the entire world market of Lemon/Widget production. These are now multinational corporations. They hold interests in specific segments (this example lemons) across a broad variety of individual nations.

National laws on Monopoly building are not the same in all nations. But most are not as structured as the U.S.A or other more developed nations (with more laws). During the acquisition phase, when encountering a highly developed nation with monopoly laws, the process of an umbrella corporation might be needed to purchase the interests within a specific nation. The example of Monsanto applies here.

Bulletpoint #3 ♦The Multinational Banks and the Multinational Corporations then utilize lobbying interests to manipulate the internal political policy of the targeted nation state(s).

With control of the majority of actual lemons the multinational corporation now holds a different set of financial values than a local farmer or national market. This is why commodities exchanges are essentially dead. In the aggregate the mercantile exchange is no longer a free or supply-based market; it is now a controlled market exploited by mega-sized multinational corporations.

Instead of the traditional ‘supply/demand’ equation determining prices, the corporations look to see what nations can afford what prices. The supply of the controlled product is then distributed to the country according to their ability to afford the price. This is how the corporation maximizes it’s profits.

Back to the lemons. A corporation might hold the rights to the majority of the lemon production in Brazil, Argentina and California/Florida. The price the U.S. consumer pays for the lemons is directed by the amount of inventory (distribution) the controlling corporation allows in the U.S.

If the U.S. harvest is abundant, they will export the product to keep the U.S. consumer spending at peak or optimal price. A U.S. customer might pay $2 for a lemon, a Mexican customer might pay .50¢, and a Canadian $1.25.

The bottom line issue is the national supply (in this example ‘harvest/yield’) is not driving the national price because the supply is now controlled by massive multinational corporations.

The mistake people often make is calling this a “global commodity” process. In the modern era this “global commodity” phrase is particularly BS.

A true global commodity is a process of individual nations harvesting/creating a similar product and bringing that product to a global market. Individual nations each independently engaged in creating a similar product.

Under modern globalism this process no longer takes place. It’s a complete fraud. Massive multinational corporations control the majority of production inside each nation and therefore control the global product market and price.  It is a controlled system.

EXAMPLE: Part of the lobbying in the food industry is to advocate for the expansion of U.S. taxpayer benefits to underwrite the costs of the domestic food products they control. By lobbying DC these multinational corporations get congress and policy-makers to expand the basis of who can use EBT and SNAP benefits (state reimbursement rates).

Expanding the federal subsidy for food purchases is part of the corporate profit dynamic.

With increased taxpayer subsidies, the food price controllers can charge more domestically and export more of the product internationally. Taxes, via subsidies, go into their profit margins. The corporations then use a portion of those enhanced profits in contributions to the politicians. It’s a circle of money.

In highly developed nations this multinational corporate process requires the corporation to purchase the domestic political process (as above) with individual nations allowing the exploitation in varying degrees. As such, the corporate lobbyists pay hundreds of millions to politicians for changes in policies and regulations; one sector, one product, or one industry at a time. These are specialized lobbyists.

EXAMPLE: The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS)

CFIUS is an inter-agency committee authorized to review transactions that could result in control of a U.S. business by a foreign person (“covered transactions”), in order to determine the effect of such transactions on the national security of the United States.

CFIUS operates pursuant to section 721 of the Defense Production Act of 1950, as amended by the Foreign Investment and National Security Act of 2007 (FINSA) (section 721) and as implemented by Executive Order 11858, as amended, and regulations at 31 C.F.R. Part 800.

The CFIUS process has been the subject of significant reforms over the past several years. These include numerous improvements in internal CFIUS procedures, enactment of FINSA in July 2007, amendment of Executive Order 11858 in January 2008, revision of the CFIUS regulations in November 2008, and publication of guidance on CFIUS’s national security considerations in December 2008 (more)

Bulletpoint #4With control over the targeted national industry or interest, the multinationals then leverage export of the national asset (exfiltration) through trade agreements structured to the benefit of lesser developed nation states – where they have previously established a proactive financial footprint.

The process of charging the U.S. consumer more for a product, that under normal national market conditions would cost less, is a process called exfiltration of wealth.

It is never discussed.

To control the market price some contracted product may even be secured and shipped with the intent to allow it to sit idle (or rot). It’s all about controlling the price and maximizing the profit equation. To gain the same $1 profit a widget multinational might have to sell 20 widgets in El-Salvador (.25¢ each), or two widgets in the U.S. ($2.50/each).

Think of the process like the historic reference of OPEC (Oil Producing Economic Countries). Only in the modern era massive corporations are playing the role of OPEC and it’s not oil being controlled, it’s almost everything.

Again, this is highlighted in the example of taxpayers subsidizing the food sector (EBT, SNAP etc.), the corporations can charge U.S. consumers more. Ex. more beef is exported, red meat prices remain high at the grocery store, but subsidized U.S. consumers can afford the high prices.

Of course, if you are not receiving food payment assistance (middle-class) you can’t eat the steaks because you can’t afford them. (Not accidentally, it’s the same scheme in the ObamaCare healthcare system)

Agriculturally, multinational corporate Monsanto says: ‘all your harvests are belong to us‘. Contract with us, or you lose because we can control the market price of your end product. Downside is that once you sign that contract, you agree to terms that are entirely created by the financial interests of the larger corporation; not your farm.

The multinational agriculture lobby is massive. We willingly feed the world as part of the system; but you as a grocery customer pay more per unit at the grocery store because domestic supply no longer determines domestic price.

Within the agriculture community the (feed-the-world) production export factor also drives the need for labor. Labor is a cost. The multinational corps have a vested interest in low labor costs. Ergo, open border policies. (ie. willingly purchased republicans not supporting border wall etc.).

This corrupt economic manipulation/exploitation applies over multiple sectors, and even in the sub-sector of an industry like steel. China/India purchases the raw material, ore, then sells the finished good back to the global market at a discount. Or it could be rubber, or concrete, or plastic, or frozen chicken parts etc.

The ‘America First’ Trump-Trade Doctrine upsets the entire construct of this multinational export/control dynamic. Team Trump focus exclusively on bilateral trade deals, with specific trade agreements targeted toward individual nations (not national corporations). ‘America-First’ is also specific policy at a granular product level looking out for the national interests of the United States, U.S. workers, U.S. companies and U.S. consumers.

Under President Trump’s Trade positions, balanced and fair trade with strong regulatory control over national assets, exfiltration of U.S. national wealth is essentially stopped.

This puts many current multinational corporations, globalists who previously took a stake-hold in the U.S. economy with intention to export the wealth, in a position of holding contracted interest of an asset they can no longer exploit.

Perhaps now we understand better how massive multi-billion multinational corporations and institutions are aligned against President Trump.


♦The Modern Third Dimension in American Economics – HERE

♦The “Fed” Can’t Figure out the New Economics – HERE

♦Proof “America-First” has disconnected Main Street from Wall Street – HERE

♦Treasury Secretary Mnuchin begins creating a Parallel Banking System – HERE

♦How Trump Economic Policy is Interacting With The Stock Market – HERE

♦How Multinationals have Exported U.S. Wealth – HERE

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157 Responses to Exiting NAFTA – The Myth of Global Markets…

  1. FL_GUY says:

    I am confident that President Trump, after studying this economic problem his entire life has developed a strategy and a team to beat the SOBs at their own game. My money is on President Trump!

    Liked by 27 people

    • FL_GUY says:

      And that picture of Donahue, all that’s missing is clown makeup and a squeeze nose. President Trump has got this!

      Liked by 14 people

    • Carrie2 says:

      And stop allowing conglomerates in the first place! So much in business is owned by a few now and that needs to be stopped and, if possible, cause conglomerates to start removing/selling off/giving back businesses.

      Liked by 6 people

      • Falcon Koch says:

        The New Form of the Old Commuinst Policy’s! Not much different only this is at a Bigger scale!

        Liked by 1 person

        • Or what fascism favors, which is corporatism. This is quite similar to their economic set up. Large companies getting huge favors from big government.

          Liked by 2 people

          • H.R. says:

            Takeadeepbreath: “Large companies getting huge favors from big government.”

            And… writing onerous legislation, rules, and regulations with which only the megacorps can comply. The rest can’t and get fined out of business or smothered to death in paperwork they can’t afford.

            Enter CoC and NGOs, stage right.

            And the bureaucrats only ask

            Do will kill this one or did they donate enough to stave off regulatory strangulation? 👍? or 👎? Whatever you say, so long as I get my raises and pension.

            Liked by 4 people

        • sat0422 says:

          What was that comment that circulated early in the Obama administration….”communism just hasn’t ever been done right….we know how to do it right.”

          I understand that in 1995, Bill to Bull Clinton was president…yep, sounds about right, followed by Bush and Obama who were more than happy to continue the legacy that actually began with New World Order president George H. W. Bush. 28 long years of NWO co-conspirators in the White House. Oh, the last one, Obama, was a true soldier in the game in every way. Danger, danger!


      • jrapdx says:

        Yes! “Break ’em up!” should be the battle cry. Monopolistic practices are at the root of the economic evils discussed here.

        Liked by 1 person

      • TheLastDemocrat says:

        Wow, you conservatives are sure getting government-regulation-happy lately!

        Liked by 1 person

    • Starter-Kit Strategy: Convert American Trade to Bilateral Deals to make Cheating and Oligopoly Cartels more costly to Complicit Nation States than Free and Fair Market Competition.

      • Develop America-First win-win Bilateral Trade Deals with Defense-Energy-Trade Allies, that raise the stakes for colluding with cartels to a “national existential level”.

      • Sanction the hell out of Cheating and Unfair Trade Practices – for allies and opponents alike – with the impact of the world’s indispensable trading partner, swamping any gains with unaffordable losses that ripple across entire economies and constituencies.

      • Seize the assets (under President Trump’s new EO) of Global Corporations involved in “Monopolistic Corruption” (predatory Pricing & Regulation to destroy competitors, predatory Distribution to loot consumers, and predatory Supply to starve customers that resist pay-to-play) and prosecute their leaders under RICO statutes.

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    • fleporeblog says:

      I absolutely agree! Our President holds all the leverage when it comes to NAFTA! He has the power to terminate the deal by signing an EO that will commence the 6 month clock. He can and will impose tariffs to Canada 🇨🇦 and Mexico 🇲🇽. If our President allows the tariffs to remain at their current levels because of NAFTA, there won’t be as big of a shock to his EO to terminate it. Knowing our Lion 🦁 doesn’t care what the world thinks, I think he is going to go back to what life was like before NAFTA ever existed. This gives him all the leverage in the world to destroy Mexico 🇲🇽 and Canada 🇨🇦 in bilateral deals.

      What is going to be comical but also sad is the number of RINOs that will cry from the rooftops that our President committed Economic Suicide. They will be all on the side of Mexico 🇲🇽 and Canada 🇨🇦. Ironically, Bernie’s side of the Democrat Party will actually praise our President.

      It has to be done! The useless Republican Senators did their job with the Tax Reform Bill. The only other major legislation that will be passed in 2018 is Infrastructure which will pull many Democrats over and will require 60 votes in the Senate. Our President doesn’t need these POS to push his agenda in 2018. He will need them in 2019 to finally Repeal and Replace Obamacare using Reconciliation. He will have 55 to 57 Republican Senators coming out of the November election.

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      • fleporeblog says:

        These few paragraphs tell you exactly what our expectations are when it comes to the automotive sector in the NAFTA agreement. Our President made a promise to the Rust Belt States. In order to fulfill that promise he will either get these morons to agree (don’t see that happening) or he will kill the deal. The Rust Belt will celebrate the return to prosperity that will occur.


        From the article linked above:

        People briefed on U.S. proposals to be presented this week said Washington was seeking to sharply lift North American content threshold in car manufacturing.

        The proposals call for North American content overall to rise to 85 percent from the current 62.5 percent. In addition, the United States wants to add a new 50 percent U.S.-specific content requirement, something that was not in the earlier agreements.

        “These will be met with widespread opposition from Canada and Mexico. I think it’s just a bridge too far,” said Wendy Cutler, the Asia Society’s Washington policy director and former chief U.S. negotiator for the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal canceled by Trump.

        The U.S. side sees strengthening the rules of origin for the auto industry as a way to bring back some auto parts production, including electronics, from Asia. But Mexico strongly opposes a U.S.-specific content requirement, which would limit the growth of its own car industry.

        The difficult issue of rules of origin will be addressed mostly at the end of the current talks, according to a schedule obtained by Reuters.

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      • Peter says:

        Fle – completely agree. The time is January to end NAFTA. The president must know that immigration reform, though he will fight for it and drive our side nuts, it won’t happen this year, best to wait until we have more seats, get a better bill, RAISE Act.

        That leaves infrastructure and trade. Get out of NAFTA in quarter 1.

        Trump leads us to 5-6% GDP in his first 2 years in office, there’s no stopping MAGA. With the tax bill now law, the stallion is loose. Trump is now in his element, negotiating 1-1 trade deals that impact the forgotten man. That will lead us to MAGA GDP, which leads us to victories at the ballot box.

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    • SpanglishKC says:

      He’s has many enemies worldwide. Many are ruthless. I hope and pray he is sorrounded by white hats in the SS. Need them more than ever

      Liked by 1 person

    • American Bulldog says:

      I’m hoping for the best with the POTUS, but you bring up a great point and concern about his team. If you research some of his team on the internet you will find that they are part of the Big Club. Mnuchin worked for and was financed by George Soros, Wilbur Ross worked for the Rothschild family for over two decades. The Paradise Papers expose many of these people. The old adage, “follow the money” always ends at those who print the money, such as the Rothschild’s, who are said to be the principal owners of the world’s banks, including our federal reserve. At this point we can only pray that we’re not being deceived once again.


    • American Bulldog says:

      I’m hoping for the best with the POTUS, but you bring up a great point and concern about his team. If you research some of his team on the internet you will find that they are part of the Big Club. Mnuchin worked for and was financed by George Soros, Wilbur Ross worked for the Rothschild family for over two decades. The Paradise Papers expose many of these people. At this point we can only pray that we’re not being deceived once again.


      • H.R. says:

        Concern noted and not dismissed out of hand. However maybe his comfortable-with-their-own-wealth players want to switch sides and play on the winning MAGA team.

        I think President Trump’s Team is playing for the Championship. Sometimes, successful players just want to win a Championship ring.

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      • Dennis Leonard says:

        You should get a better source of info,from the NPR and papers crap.Go peddle their crap some where else.
        “Discussing Ross’ Paradise Papers file with NPR’s Mary Louise Kelly, reporter Jon Swaine of The Guardian said Ross’ investments link him to Navigator — which is in turn linked to Russian President Vladimir Putin’s son-in-law.”


    • Hoosier says:

      I traded physical commodities in a previous life. Even cornered a market. The grasp Sundance has of this entire sh!tshow amazes me. She only skipped basis which is the value of time and place in this mess. The best way to describe basis is a fishing net. Tug on a node (Knot) and the net deforms. It is the value of time and place. How much is it going to cost to get it there and how quick can we accomplish it. Very little applies to this post, but remember this post. Sundance Babe Ruthed this one. Best GROCK post I have seen on here. The others arn’t bad either, but this one broke a wind-shield in the back row of the parking lot.


  2. Founding Fathers Fan says:

    Political manipulation to hide facts? Say it ain’t so.

    Liked by 2 people

  3. NAFTA = NOT America First Trade Agreement
    And our President Trump knows this!

    Liked by 14 people

  4. Howie says:

    Sounds good to me.

    Liked by 8 people

  5. “FREE-MARKET” Capitalism vs. the Crony, State-Subsidized, Distorted-Market Capitalism of the last decades. For roughly a century “free-markets” have been disappearing in favor of government interference (i.e. intervention) to pick winners…and therefore also losers.

    The rationale was to stabilize the “Boom-bust cycle” of the 19th century. But those were also due to assorted factors involving government policies of interference:

    “If the policies of nonintervention prevailed—free trade, freely fluctuating wage rates, no form of social insurance, etc.—there would be no acute unemployment. Private charity would suffice to prevent the absolute destitution of the very restricted hard core of unemployables.”

    See this summary for a quick primer on the “Business Cycle”:


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    • wheatietoo says:

      If a system is ‘State-Subsidized’…it is no longer capitalism.

      Capitalism is merit-based, letting the consumer decide which products & services are best.
      That’s why capitalism is the only pro-consumer system.

      Liked by 13 people

  6. wheatietoo says:

    Even if some prices go up as a result of Exiting NAFTA…it will be worth it in the long run, to tear up that dreadful deal.

    One-on-one trade agreements are the only way to go.

    Liked by 16 people

    • H.R. says:

      Darn tootin’ Skippy. If lettuce, tomatoes, and avocados go up 20%, but 200,000 manufacturing jobs are brought back at 3 to 4 times minimum wage, it will be worth it.

      Liked by 4 people

    • Lindenlee says:

      It is my hope (however dim) that Mexico’s ruling class will finally do something good for Mexico and its people, using its wealth to MMGA. It has oil, mining, shipping, agriculture, etc., but nothing is developed or used for the benefit of the people.

      It doesn’t even have its own oil refinery, manufactures very little of its own steel, and despite vast copper reserves, does not do its own smelting and fabrication. Everything goes to the corrupt, and makes things expensive for the average Mexican. Mexico even takes our tech industry South, but will not build its own from the bottom up.

      It is a culture of theft and lying. The people feel helpless against it. Not being able to use your own resources for the greatness of your own country is national suicide. You can only steal so much until your prey gets out of the way or shuts the door.

      Liked by 3 people

      • Hoosier says:

        The Mexicans are not dumb people. Look at the STEM people at the maquiladoras. I have often had to ask them to explain to me and slower. Mas despacio por favor. Easy money is their problem. Leaders get easy money. No work to speak of. Bribes, kickbacks, the whole shebang. Their social pyramid should be inverted. Their hard workers would flock back like the Monarchs do every winter.

        Winter… a good time to put a 1000 commercial contractors on building that wall.


  7. Ari says:

    There should be a CTH boot camp for stupid politicians and voters. Despite 30 years of Limbaugh and Fox News the republican voters are as dumb as a box of rocks.

    Liked by 5 people

    • Wend says:

      “Because of 30 years of Limbaugh and Fox News” IMHO.

      Liked by 5 people

      • M. Mueller says:

        Yep. Limbaugh was the one who told me/us that NAFTA would be a good thing for the country. That was not a small mistake!

        Liked by 3 people

        • the5thranchhand says:

          M. Mueller, you are exactly right about Rush telling his audience in the mid-1990’s how great NAFTA was going to be for the country. He expounded on it in great detail one day, even using the phrase ‘service-driven economy’, or, ‘service economy’; saying every country must go through all these ‘phases’ in their ‘growth’. As, dumb as I was, at that time, I was screaming at the radio, that a country that sends all its industries and manufacturing jobs overseas will soon cease to exist as a great, powerful country!! Yikes! Sorry for the rant,

          After that day, if listening to Rush, always took what he said with a grain-of-salt.

          Liked by 4 people

        • sat0422 says:

          I really don’t think that anyone who was outside the loop(s) understood just how bad it is.

          I became very leary on the local level when they installed the auto meters to monitor my electric use. That darn bill goes sky high every summer just so everyone in our country has their bills paid and everyone stays cool. Those of us who can pay subsidize the ones who can’t or won’t. Nobody gets cut off – it in considered inhumane. Same story on a local scale that everyone can relate to.


    • kate says:

      You have got that right, we can even nicely and logically point it out to them, they either can’t understand, or don’t want to know, or is is not what they want to hear, it is sad.


  8. kiskiminetas says:

    “Bulletpoint #3 ♦The Multinational Banks and the Multinational Corporations then utilize lobbying interests to manipulate the internal political policy of the targeted nation state(s).”

    This to me is very important as it explains why the swamp is the way it is. These people have sold their hearts, minds and souls to the donors who feed them the cash. This will be a major point in the Big Ugly battle. Yes the Rinos were all smiles on the steps of the Capital most were there to show their smiling faces but their minds are on taking Trump out. Trump and Co. take them out and expose every one of them for the corrupt, anti-Americans, fakes they are. MAGA

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    • Solution: Freeze the assets of the top DEMOCRAT Play-for-Pay Committee Chairmen (from days of Democrat control) and Ranking members (during Republican control) in Congress – along with the CoC’s Tom Donahue for buying off Congress and funding the legislation authors of K-Street – and prosecute them under the RICO statute for Political Racketeering.

      Republicans will get the message, keep their mouths shut and stop playing ball:
      • No Republican can object to support & perpetuate Democrat Corruption.
      • One Republican peep paints a bullseye on them for Investigation & Prosecution.
      • The first Republican to whine must be expelled by the GOP to avoid branding the Party.

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    • The salary they get paid ends up just being a perk of the job.


      • Lindenlee says:

        Well said, Take! That thought has been rattling around in my head, but you put it so succinctly.

        Many Americans would be thrilled to work 60-hour weeks to make $175, 000, not counting benefits (no O’care, etc.), while our entitled political class just works half that, and consider it CHUMP CHANGE, as they present their posteriors to Mr. Donahue.


  9. burnett044 says:

    and now a wee trip down memory lane..

    Liked by 21 people

    • rheahack0103 says:

      I liked Ross, even voted for him. I was so disappointed when he dropped out of the race. The rumor was that the powers (probably Clintons) threatened his family.

      What did we end up with? Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama. They sold our country and shipped off our jobs. Pitiful. Bush Sr undid Reagan’s plan…called it Voodoo-economics. I really don’t know why Reagan picked him as VP.

      Liked by 7 people

    • StanH says:

      Turns out he was prophetic. Remember he was attacked from both sides of the aisle. Rush Limbaugh called him “…a hand grenade with a bad haircut.” The uni-party must be destroyed if we are to survive.

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      • decisiontime16 says:

        Rush had a parody on just about every day depicting Ross Perot being carted off to a mental institution. I’ll never forget that. Rush was rabid pro-NAFTA.
        The true conservative R’s were against it. The GOPe type was all for it.

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        • decisiontime16 says:

          NAFTA passed the House 234 to 200. House Democrats voted against it 156 to 102.

          Republicans supported it 132 to 43.


        • Donna in Oregon says:

          Was that when Rush Limbaugh was hooked on narcotics? I thought he went to rehab and did a mea culpa for being high to his audience.

          Rush has a niche, a nice little radio job. President Trump is the leader of the free world.



  10. tax2much says:

    Unfortunately, every one benefits from this scheme except for middle class taxpayers and there are less and less of us every year to fight back.

    My only hope is that Trump policies will start creating a bigger middle class that can take back our country from corrupt government cronies and education Marxism.

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    • pyromancer76 says:

      The success of MAGA will have to expand beyond the “middle class.” It also will take an upper-middle class who can do better with their intelligence in managerial or entrepreneurial efforts as well as a “lower-middle,” or what used to be called the “working,” class who can succeed through their labors better than under the current service economy.

      For the latter, the alternative must be based on be workfare for the lower income individuals and with no payments to “children” outside of a working family – or any additional assistance (if this still exists) beyond two children.

      We will no longer be talking about “the poor children” as leftists spout constantly, but about strengthening the family within a free-enterprise and limited-government system, with even-handed law enforcement.

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      • H.R. says:

        Excellent, pyromancer; stronger families, limited government.

        And why should the government be involved in any way with poverty? False premise and no need to accept that premise. When I was young, churches and other community groups used to care of the poor and needy. I recall poverty and hunger, but no one starved or froze to death unless they were too proud to accept ‘charity.’

        The government should butt out of the poverty business. When I was young, I remember stopping by to ‘visit’ different persons or families in need and my mom ‘just happened’ to hit some sales at the grocery and bought more than we needed. If it wasn’t too much trouble, would they take some of the items off her hands? I can remember dinners of corn-on-the cob as main dish, side dish, and dessert, and yet we felt blessed to be eating so we helped people who wouldn’t be eating at all.

        My point: one dollar of food went directly to someone who needed it, when they needed it. They received one dollar of food.

        Once the government got involved it took 60¢ of every dollar, forcibly taken from taxpayers via metaphorical gunpoint, to deliver 40¢ of food to someone in need. (And don’t even talk to me about clothing. I got my first pair of new jeans, bought just for me, when I was in 9th grade.)

        Eliminating NAFTA will bring jobs back to the USA. People with jobs can help those in need and no government involvement is necessary.


  11. magatrump says:

    Pray for justice. Trust President Trump. God bless President Trump. God bless America.

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  12. Sylvia Avery says:

    Contemplating all of this makes my head hurt. I hate these big multinational corps. I hate that you can’t buy anything American made or that nothing is American owned.

    I was really happy to see that Triangle Tire, a Chinese owned company, announced they were going to open a factory in I think North Carolina and hire something like 8,000 workers. That is good news, it is. People need jobs.

    And it is good news to have some Made in America tires! But don’t we have any American companies to buy American made tires from? That would be my preference. I don’t want to enrich China by buying their tires, you know?

    I furrow my brow over the fact that everything that we need to sustain our lives is apparently owned by multinational corps. Like our food. So, if we don’t toe the line does that mean we don’t get any food?

    What about all of our energy supply that we are going to be drilling and pumping and fracking and refining? But it is owned by multinational corporations? And if we don’t do as they say? What? Do they cut off our access to our own energy?

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    • wheatietoo says:

      The main reason why ‘multinational corps’ are multinational, is because of taxes and regulations.

      Companies are naturally going to avail themselves of the best tax treatment.
      Regulations are costly to comply with and curb business activity.
      So companies flee from over-regulated countries and designate their ‘headquarters’ in countries with the least regulation…and tax burden.

      If we eliminated the Corporate Income Tax altogether…many ‘multinational corps’ would cease to become ‘multinational’ and become US Corporations.

      The elimination of burdensome regulations by our President, is already making the US a more attractive place to do business.
      Lowering the Corp Tax Rate to 21% is a good start towards enticing multinationals to locate their headquarters here.

      We want to do Trade with other countries.
      It brings revenue into the US.

      “We fight for our US Companies.”
      This has not been true…but under Pres Trump, it will be.

      “Come to the US and be a US Corp — and we will fight for you.”
      This is what we need to be doing, to build up our middle class and our economy.
      Our President knows this.

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    • wheatietoo says:

      I don’t worry about our Food Supply.
      The US is the “breadbasket to the world”…remember that phrase?

      We pay farmers to not farm their land.
      We do this to keep the prices higher.
      We need to re-think this policy.

      I don’t worry about our Oil Supply, now that Pres Trump is in the White House.
      The price of oil is about where it should be, to allow our domestic producers to make a profit and survive.

      We’ve got New Refineries being built…which will keep our prices at the pump at affordable levels.
      We haven’t had any new refineries in decades.
      This is a Very Good Thing for consumers.

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      • G. Combs says:

        “I don’t worry about our Food Supply.”

        Then you have not notice that our farmland is being sold to China and Japan!

        My farrier reported that in his parents neighborhood in Oklahoma, the Japanese were going from farm to farm making offers.
        “…The deal made Shuanghui, now the WH Group Limited, into one of the biggest foreign owners of U.S. agricultural land, according to an analysis of that same data.

        That purchase was just a part of a continuing surge in foreign investment in American farmland and food that has raised concerns in Congress and among rural advocacy groups….
        “The more control foreign interests have in our food system, the less control we have, obviously,” said Tim Gibbons, a director for the Missouri Rural Crisis Center, an advocacy organization based in Columbia. “I think it’s a national security concern.”

        “When foreign entities buy farmland, my assumption is that we’re never going to get that farmland back,” added Gibbons. “They’re going to keep it forever.”

        Indeed, over the past decade, foreign companies have been investing in agricultural land in the United States at a record pace, according to a Midwest Center for Investigative Reporting analysis of USDA data…”

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        • wheatietoo says:

          They cannot pick up that land and take it with them.
          I heard this said, back in the 70’s when Arabs were buying up US land…and then again in the 80’s when the Japanese were buying up golf courses.

          It is still ‘our’ land…no matter whose name is on the deed.
          It is subject to the laws, taxes and regulations that we all have to abide by.

          Maybe it’s time to pass some new laws about ‘foreign ownership’ of US land.
          Other countries have them.
          Thing is…there are unpatriotic people, US citizens, who would allow themselves to be ‘straw men’ to circumvent those laws.

          If China or Japan export their US farm products back into their countries…duty-free or with favorable treatment…then we can demand the same for all US products.

          If China or Japan sell their US farm products at higher prices, then it helps other US producers who can sell for lower prices.
          If they sell at lower prices…then it helps consumers.

          With guys like Sonny Perdue and Wilbur Ross watching over things, I am just going to wait and see what happens.

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      • Blacksmith8 says:

        It’s not you Wheatietoo, I have a psychological problem with the word “allow”
        “allow our domestic producers to make a profit and survive.”

        I detest the idea that any government could insert itself into the equation an “allow” a producer to try and make a profit.

        try, fail, win , lose, come back next time with a better idea – that IS the game.

        I believe if a company cannot price the product they have to generate revenue that covers expenses and results in profits that make the investors happy, they deserve to lose.

        /rant off

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    • 800 For this One plant you mentioned.. BUT there are 3 Chi-com plants being built. GA-SC And NC..
      Along with mucho Tax incentives

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  13. duchess01 says:

    Is Corporatocracy just another name for the myth of globalism?

    What is the Corporatocracy?


    Corporatocracy is a word John Perkinsinvented or at least popularized by American writer John Perkins, author of Confessions of an Economic Hitman, The Secret History of the American Empire, Hoodwinked and other books dealing with the unholy marriage of international bankers, multi-national corporations and governments throughout the world but primarily our own government, which is used by bankers and businesses to do their bidding.


  14. litlbit2 says:

    Could this explain why the government punishes gas stations for price fixing at certain times but all sugar refiners now sell a four pound bag of sugar instead of the old five pound bag? Bleach now is sold on a downsized container on and on. When driving passed grain elevators in any part of the country you see massive supplies of harvested grain piled on the ground covered with tarps yet the food price is maintained. Same is true when farmers purchase input goods, fertilizer, herbicides, seeds the sellers have previously had a talk. Ever wonder how all utility companies came up with the “facilities charge” as commodity prices declined?

    Time to breakup the big controllers, once called trust busting. Greed and corruption are preventing startups.

    Where is the next Apple, Microsoft, Walmart etc?
    More than likely years away due to Frank-Dodd, Common Core, City Political approvals for new business along with excessive fees, taxes, regulations, debt. Road blocks setup by the elite promoted by the low information voter.

    IMHO, on President and his “Little Friends” along with the hand from above are capable and smart enough to end this assault against all people.

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  15. neilmdunn says:

    Another CTH: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/12/26/maganomics-initial-holiday-sales-growth-estimates-exceed-33-billion/

    On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 5:05 PM, The Last Refuge wrote:

    > sundance posted: “If the U.S. were to exit NAFTA (North American Free > Trade Agreement), the price you pay for most foodstuff at the grocery store > would drop 10% in the first quarter and likely drop 20% or more by the end > of the first year. Here’s why: Approximately a de” >

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  16. G. Combs says:

    E.M. Smith (Chiefio) has a new post that dovetails with this article by Sundance.
    Monopoly, Monopsony, Oligopoly, Collusion

    E.M. has a degree in economics and since the blog is rather small, will answer questions.

    BTW one of his regulars mentioned President Trump is looking into hardening our electrical system against EMP attack. Very welcome news.

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  17. G. Combs says:

    Also Gallopingcamel, (a personal friend) has a very good comment:
    “25 December 2017 at 5:29 am

    Large organizations conspire with government to fix prices. For example, road freight, garbage collection, cement and much more cost five times more than they should in New York city from the 1960s through to the late 1980s owing to La Cosa Nostra (LCN). Rudi Guiliani and the FBI worked hard to solve this problem and today the LCN is less powerful than it used to be.

    Before you get too complacent there are much worse examples of corruption today in terms of both the degree and the scale. The LCN pumped prices by a factor of two to a factor of ten. Some large companies today pump prices by factors of one hundred or more. Some of the worst offenders are part of an industry that is four times larger than the US military.

    When something costs five or more times what the same thing costs in other countries you can be sure that corruption is influencing the market. Maybe the LCN is knee capping people who try to compete with them. Maybe corrupt bureaucrats at the FDA are closing down companies that try to compete with the companies that are putting their kids through college.

    Take a look at this 2016 report:

    Click to access MC_1604_or_drugcosts.pdf

    Things have continued to deteriorate since that report was published in April 2016. Take a look at Clobetasol Propionate which is not even close to being the worst example of price gouging:

    Clobetasol Propionate 0.05% ointment, Price review, October 2017, 60 gram tubes
    Walmart (New Hope Commons)……..$249.05
    Walmart (on-line, with coupon)…………$76.14
    Canadian on-line pharmacy……………..$40.00
    Oxford on-line pharmacy (UK)……………$9.99
    Sfarma (Bogota, Colombia)……………….$7.94
    US wholesale price, 2012………………….$0.90

    Active ingredient (Wholesale = $1,250/kg) or $0.0375 per 60 gram tube of ointment

    How can something cost 20 to 30 times more in the USA than elsewhere?
    How can all seven FDA approved manufacturers raise prices 100 fold in 5 years?
    How can anyone justify a retail price 6,000 times the active ingredient cost?”

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  18. Donna in Oregon says:

    NAFTA question….why are Minnesota pork farmers having issues with President Trump’s NAFTA stance? This smells of left-wing, globalist CoC, and Chinese. But why just pork and a focus on Canada and Mexico?

    The Chinese have been buying into our pork markets. Obama admin let them. I know China went over to Mexico so it must be something very important to the Panda and CoC.

    Terminating NAFTA Would Devastate American Agriculture: The View of a Hog Farmer

    Minnesota farmers fear exit from NAFTA could cost them millions
    By MARK STEIL Minnesota Public Radio News 6 hrs ago


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    • wheatietoo says:

      Scare tactics.
      Whatever these companies did to survive and profit from NAFTA…can be undone.

      China loves pork.
      It is no wonder that they love the quality of pork produced here…and want to secure a steady supply of it.
      There are deals to be made here that can be beneficial to both countries.
      Our President knows this.

      Secretary Sonny Perdue has been a very busy guy.
      I think we will have happy farmers in the years to come.

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      • Kent says:

        “On May 29, 2013, WH Group Ltd., then known as Shuanghui Group or Shineway Group, the largest meat producer in China, announced the purchase of Smithfield Foods for $4.72 billion.”


      • Janie M. says:

        They did secure a steady supply of it, wheatietoo, when Shuanghui International acquired Smithfield Foods (Smithfield hams, etc.) nearly 5 years ago. Good article over at PBS regarding its acquisition of the company and it paid more than its market value. BTW, I try to avoid purchasing any Smithfield product.

        Smithfield Foods, the world’s largest pork producer, was acquired by a Chinese firm in 2013 for nearly $5 billion — more than the company’s market value. The surprising purchase caused some lawmakers to wonder if there might be a hidden player. As part of the series Food for 9 Billion, Nathan Halverson of the Center for Investigative Reporting examines how the Chinese government is involved.



    • G. Combs says:

      Remember there are two sets of farmers. CORPORATE Farms like JB Swift, Tyson, Purdue… and small independent farmers. We are essentially enemies although many small farmers are ‘tenant farmers’ for the big boys. The corporation OWNS the buildings, the animals and the food. You get X dollars for raising each of their animals. (The bank probably owns the mortgage on your farm if you are unlucky.)

      It is actually a modern version of the old serfdom system. I call what we have today ‘free-range slavery’

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      • Donna in Oregon says:

        Thank you G. Combs. I get it now. So now that the death tax is out of the way the family farm can make a comeback and the Corporate farms will have to compete again.

        Thank you to everyone that answered. It gets confusing trying to keep it straight.

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        • G. Combs says:

          Believe me Donna, it took me years to untangle what was going on so do not expect to understand right off the bat. That is the main problem. With the MSM providing cover, people do not understand just how badly they are being ripped off or by whom.

          Often they blame farmers, not understanding that only things like corn and other grains are subsidized and not your fruits and veggies. Of course subsidized grains means the $$$ go into the pockets of Monsanto for seed, Dupont for chemicals, ADM for producing ethanol for gasoline and finally the big livestock factories. If those factory farms had to PAY for the grain they feed the cattle hogs and chickens, instead of the American taxpayer, livestock would be put back on onto pastures where they belong!

          Instead WE the tax payer pay for the corn and barley that feeds the cattle that is then sold to Japan for a premium price. WE in the USA get the ‘choice’ cuts (Grade ‘C’)

          From 2007
          in 1000 lb
          carcass wt …. Imports of 2007….. Exports
          beef/veal … 3,052,164………1,433,964
          live cattle … 2,494,965 …………. 66,383
          pork carcass . 968,438 ……… 3,141,181
          Hog……..10,004,348 ………….. 136,816
          Lamb………. 159,271 …………….. 1,288
          mutton ……..43,376………………. 8,138
          Broiler .. 5,903,997
          other chicken .167,201
          turkey . 546,522
          egg (1000 dozen) . 388759

          OTHER NOTES on Cattle disease from countries we import from:
          Beef and veal imports (Carcass wt. 1,000 pounds)
          Country 2004 2008 diseases
          Uruguay 402,898 65,549 2001 FMD outbreak

          Brazil 219,393 212,907 2005 FMD outbreak, Vesicular stomatitis, Bluetongue (now found in USA)
          Lymphatic filariasis, Leishmaniasis, Onchocerciasis (River Blindness), Trypanosoma cruzi,

          Argentina 116,606 55,966 2008 FMD outbreak

          Nicaragua 65,397 99,384 Trypanosomiasis (Chagas disease),leptospirosis

          Costa Rica 23,632 19,239 rabies, Naegleria fowler, Encephalitis, vesicular stomatitis viruses, Leptospirosis, Trypanosomiasis (Chagas disease)

          Mexico 19,495 43,783 tuberculosis, brucellosis “cattle tick fever,” Trypanosoma cruz, Vesicular stomatitis

          Canada 1,062,420 841,242 tuberculosis, BSE

          FMD highly contagious in human lungs (several days)and tonsils (several weeks) http://www.agriculture.state.pa.us/agriculture/cwp/view.asp?a=3&q=127935

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          • Irisheyes. says:

            And remember, laws were passed so there is no longer a requirement to disclose where the meat comes from on the package label. IIRC, even if a company wants to voluntarily label their meat as local, it isn’t allowed. Unless we know an independent farmer who is a trusted source for our meat, the U.S. Population are just sitting ducks…..


    • Notice your first link and WHO it is, these Folks are AGAINST #MAGA, they are selling US out, to the Globalists!


  19. Sunshine says:

    This is very well explained. It makes it so much easier to understand.
    The chain-supermarket price of fresh produce and poultry has been out-of-control for quite some years. It can be imported or regionally produced, regardless of the season, very little changes in the price. Price competition is virtually nonexistent. Now, I understand.

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    • Lindenlee says:

      In case you are into urban (or suburban) self-sufficiency, this is an interesting proposition, and good for everybody… Grow, profit, provide for your family and neighborhood: http://www.metropolisfarmsusa.com.


      • G. Combs says:

        You have to be careful with that. Unless you are inspected and approved by the USDA you can not sell or even give food to an adult child! That is what the food ‘Safety’ Modernization Act was all about. The regulation of food from ‘Farm to Table’

        September, 1995, USDA’s Food Safety & Inspection Service presented a 600-page document Farm-To-Table – control of every step in the food chain from production to home preparation. http://haccpalliance.org/sub/news/AAMPReport.pdf


    • Deplorable Patriot says:

      My source inside the poultry industry told me that due to the avian flu a few years back, so many laying hens had to be destroyed that it was going to take two to three years to recover just the number of laying hens to bring production back to pre-flu levels. That was when the price of chicken skyrocketed.

      Beef had a similar issue with drought and California goofing off with the water reservoirs. The ranchers sold off a lot of cattle, and kept enough to get started again once the water situation was solved.

      Now that recovery is possible for both food sources, we’ll see if the prices drop significantly.


  20. Jedi Clampett says:

    A perfect example of this scam is milk. The policies and practices in place to regulate milk prices in this country would make a commie blush. The icing on the communist cake are the regulations that make it illegal for farmers to sell directly to consumers, bypassing the milk mafia. All in the name of “safety”, of course.

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  21. Kent says:

    Awesome, Sundance….just awesome.

    I’ve got to read that about nine more times…

    An incredible outline rendered understandable by a neophyte if said neo wishes to learn….

    Thank you.

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    • Kent says:

      I sense PDJT began studying and observing these things long ago as part of his education in worldly matters…

      I, on the other hand, will soon attempt my first automatic transmission rebuild….Honda…..


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      • GL My friend, KENT! hope it’s not to complicated,, can you report your progress on the open thread?
        With pictures would be awesome!


        • Kent says:

          It will actually be far easier for me to pull, rebuild and install the xmission than to post pictures of it…

          I m a tech tard…not to be rude…

          on the other hand…if someone else can do it, I can too….

          I’ll try…Honda baxa


  22. Matt Transit says:

    I remember back when Bill Clinton agreed to NAFTA and claimed how good it was for the country. The MSM showed on the evening national news programs how great it was that manufacturing workers were being re-trained for service jobs. I don’t remember if one politician or union head criticized the decision. I guess that some did, but there was no internet back then to disseminate truth. All of the politicians, and I am pretty sure that some union bosses, traded their birthright for a mess of pottage. May God bless our nation, and May God bless President Trump.

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    • Kent says:

      Bill also handed our missile guidance and nuke miniaturization secrets to china…via lax security measures….

      Bill got the campaign contributions….and…that technology is pointed back at us by china….

      and now NORK has followed upon with that…

      Hillary followed suit with the lax security…..she didn’t HAND them the secrets, she just left them laying on the table so to speak…

      and that too was for the $$$$$$…..

      bammy is a different MATTER…

      as are the muslim brudderhood

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    • Blacksmith8 says:

      Ross Perot – great sucking sound – there are links in this thread


  23. G. Combs says:

    To add to what Sundance said. NAFTA and WTO were passed in 1995, about three decades ago.

    This is the result direct from the International Monetary Fund: Convergence, Interdependence, and Divergence – Finance & Development, September 2012

    “[…]New convergence and strengthened interdependence coincide with a third trend, relating to income distribution. In many countries the distribution of income has become more unequal, and the top earners’ share of income in particular has risen dramatically. In the United States the share of the top 1 percent has close to tripled over the past three decades, now accounting for about 20 percent of total U.S. income (Alvaredo and others, 2012). At the same time, while the new convergence mentioned above has reduced the distance between advanced and developing economies when they are taken as two aggregates, there are still millions of people in some of the poorest countries whose incomes have remained almost stagnant for more than a century. These two facts have resulted in increased divergence between the richest people in the world and the very poorest, despite the broad convergence of average incomes.[…]”

    Essentially the SOBs transferred OUR share of the wealth to their pockets. If people realized just how much money has been stolen from us the entire Congress and Supreme Court would be lynched tomorrow and the bankers and CEOs the day after.

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  24. freq says:

    NAFTA was THE economic trade trainwreck of trainwrecks… getting out is a delicate negotiation…

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  25. aredtailblog says:

    Or it would go down because we wouldn’t have this weird shipping back and forth between two countries and the international costs of that just to get berries off-season.


  26. What Sundance has outlined..
    NOT ONLY beconstrained to Food…
    Americas NUMBER #1 problem is BIG Pharma…
    For example, Snake bite Medicine antidote is less than 120.00 dollars in Mexico..
    But HERE just across the Border in the USA,,, is in excess of 14,000.00 !!!
    Why it costs $14,000 to treat a snakebite with $14 medicine
    ***According to Boyer’s model, a single vial of anti-venom that would cost over $14,000 in the United States would cost one or two hundred dollars in Mexico. Same medicine. Same manufacturer. But a totally different pharmaceutical market.***
    (He has the “reason wrong).
    Treating A Scorpion Sting: $ 100 In Mexico Or $ 12,000 In U.S.
    Same with EVERY example of Big Pharma Drugs..
    WHY do you think there is Medical Tourism to other countries, to be treated, effectively by Doctor’s trained in the USA? (Most times)..
    Food Stamps..
    Again Sundance makes great points..
    Though ,, DID you know?
    The EBT cards & disbursement(s) are handled by the TBTF banks? (To big to fail)..
    Wells Fargo handles the South Eastern & Deep South EBT accounts & Cards..
    For What Price?
    Also handles the “Cash Benefits” on Welfare/TANF/WIC/HUD and numerous other “cash bennies” being handed out via YOU the taxpayer to the Misfortunate/ Single Mothers/AND yes I’m going there.. ILLEGALS ..
    Pennies on the dollar for each transaction adds to $$$$ BIGLEY Dollars.
    Just take that above and THINK, Combined with the food industry, as Sundance outlined above, it is INSANITY!
    With Lobbyist’s, sponsored by these SAME Multi-Nationals trying getting their fingers in the pie, or a piece of it,, Runs into many, many, many Billions, if not Trillions,,, to “convince” our Elected Folks, in DC to hand over OUR hard Earned monies as Tax Dollars to these Globalists..
    Only then…
    You can Imagine how the “Swamp” came to be…
    I hope my “rambling” makes sense.


    • Donna in Oregon says:

      Great points on this thread and as usual incredible research by Sundance.

      Not to give away my age, but I remember the war on poverty with President Johnson was a big deal. Over 50 years ago the political class learned that having an underclass of poor people was an industry unto itself. Big money maker for the rich and the politically connected and their pals.

      The war on poverty has been reported to have cost $22 trillion over the past 50 years. Lucrative, isn’t it? The corruption is rampant….Letting drugs in (the government gets paid), treating drug addicts (the government gets paid), fighting the crime from drugs (the government gets paid), supporting the children and families of drug addiction (the government gets paid). The taxpayers get the bill.

      Of course the lifetime politicians don’t want a border wall. The war on drugs and poverty pays them (and their non-profits) well.


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  27. Sayit2016 says:

    The dumbest thing they ever did was to regulate ( corn ) which is a food source !


    • Donna in Oregon says:

      It’s GMO, genetically modified by Monsanto. That’s a whole can of worms by itself. Some people believe that many diseases we suffer today are from the viruses created in GMO food. Monsanto did the testing…..they said there is no problem. No really, they did. There have been no tests on the long term effects of these new viruses created by what many people call “Frankenfoods”.

      Obama put a big-shot from Monsanto over the FDA……

      I always read the challenges to Monsanto safety. This one is strongly contested by Monsanto and most media. Trust but verify.

      It’s Not the Zika Virus” – Doctors Link Monsanto Pesticides to Birth Defects
      February 16, 2016


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      • Deplorable Patriot says:

        There’s been a revolving door between the Federal Government and Monsanto for decades. This is but one article.


        Ask yourself why a chemical company that came up with an herbicide that kills everything in sight, glyphosate marketed as “Round-Up,” would go into the seed production business.

        And why would the research facility where the plant research is done be named for a man who ran Ralston-Purina (Donald Danforth) whose younger brother just happened to be a U.S. Senator (Jack Danforth, lawyer and Episcopal priest) for a couple decades.

        Connecting the dots can get ugly.


        • G. Combs says:

          Connecting the dots can get ugly…. Oh yes.

          More from my old notes. This time connecting the Monsanto Dots.


          The information below is from Robert Cohen, Executive Director of the Dairy Education Board. (http://www.notmilk.com). It shows how the corporations control our government so as to continue to dilute and even poison our food supply in the name of profit.
          John Grisham wrote the best selling novel, the Pelican Brief. Julia Roberts and Denzel Washington starred in the blockbuster movie in which two Supreme Court justices are assassinated so that an evil oil billionaire can petition the president to appoint environmentally unfriendly justices to America’s highest court. It’s all about politics, multi-national firms, and dollars.

          Today’s Pelican Brief
          “In 1994, Monsanto Agricultural Company gained approval for their genetically engineered bovine growth hormone. That hormone became the most controversial drug application in the history of America’s Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Monsanto’s hormone caused cancer in laboratory animals, and was banned in Europe and Canada. Monsanto’s genetically engineered crops continue to make headline news throughout the world, and their patented seeds have become the seeds of controversy.

          In the 2000 election, Monsanto donated hundreds of thousands of dollars in PAC money and soft money to political candidates. The man receiving the second highest total dollars from Monsanto was Larry Combest (R-TX). He got $2000. Combest is the powerful Chairman of the House Agriculture Committee.
          Who got the most from Monsanto? The winner of the Monsanto sweepstakes with $10,000 was John Ashcroft (R-MO). Ashcroft will be George Bush’s Attorney General.

          Follow the Monsanto connection to George Bush’s presidency. This brief will be more convincing than Grisham’s Pelican Brief.
          Monsanto’s lawyer was appointed to the Supreme Court by George Bush, Sr. The deciding swing voter gave the election to George, Jr. That justice: Clarence Thomas, Esq.
          Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense, was president of Searle Pharmaceuticals, purchased by Monsanto.
          Ann Veneman, Secretary of Agriculture, was on the board of directors of Calgene Pharmaceuticals, purchased by Monsanto.
          Tommy Thompson, Secretary of Health, was a supporter of Monsanto in Wisconsin. He received $50,000 from biotech firms is his election run, and used state funds to set up a $317 million biotech zone in Wisconsin.
          Mitch Daniels, Director of the Office of Management and Budget, was the vice president of corporate strategy at Eli Lilly Pharmaceutical Company. Eli Lilly and Monsanto developed the genetically engineered bovine growth hormone. Lilly “owns” the European “franchise.” Daniels’ presence insures that the bovine growth hormone will one day be approved for use in Europe.
          The House of Representatives Agriculture Committee Chairman, Larry Combest (R-TX), named Richard Pombo to head Agriculture’s dairy, livestock, and poultry sub-committee. Pombo will have enormous power in chairing this committee. In 1994, the Dairy Committee considered a bill that would label milk and milk products containing the genetically engineered hormone. The Dairy Committee stalled the proposed bill until the 1994 elections. When the 1994 session of Congress expired, the bill died. It was never even voted upon. A subsequent investigation of Pombo revealed that he accepted money directly from Monsanto while voting on a bill that impacted Monsanto’s future, and the future of biotechnology.
          Last, but not least. John Ashcroft, Attorney General. The one man out of 535 members of the House of Representatives and the Senate receiving the greatest amount of financial support from Monsanto. He received five times the amount of money as the congressman finishing second. 

          Where do Americans finish in this stranger than fiction real-life drama? —


      • G. Combs says:

        It’s GMO, genetically modified by Monsanto. That’s a whole can of worms by itself….

        Again from my old notes they found the transferred genes do not always stay put.

        “The most important research finding in this area has recently come from Jena University in Germany. Researchers there have shown that a gene used in GM canola transferred to bacteria in the guts of bees. I believe this is the first publicly documented case of horizontal gene transfer from GM crops to bacteria within any animal. This discovery may have major implications for the future of GM crops. “ http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/03/10/HOG5FOH9VQ1.DTL

        “Gene fragments from the food are circulated and sometimes integrated into the chromosomes of the predator. “ http://www.saynotogmos.org/scientific_studies.htm


  28. RedBallExpress says:

    Just so you know the Cheerios and bread you eat are laced with Monsanto’s “Roundup Herbicide” that was applied directly to the kernel (and the entire field) shortly before harvest.

    In Canada it is legal to spray wheat and oats with Roundup a few weeks prior to harvest to insure even ripening. It also kills any green weeds that create big gooey problems inside combine during harvest. It is standard procedure on today’s huge 10,000 acre farms since the harvest can continue for weeks. Indeed it is the only way for those large farms.

    The old way was to swath the crop into windrows and let the sun naturally dry it. The harvest has to be completed in a week before rain and the elements destroy it.

    Almost all the oats and a lot of the wheat used for human consumption in the U.S. is imported from Canada. I don’t care for Roundup in my bread or cereal. As far as I am concerned this is a scandal!

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  29. hellinahandbasket says:

    As I said before, I’m a “BIG Picture” kind of gal.
    I think Sundance is trying to talk about the BIG Picture, without talking about the BIG Picture.
    Is it fear – fear to point fingers toward exactly who/what are the players in the BIG Picture?

    This man, a former Dutch Economic “Handler” of sorts, overcame his fear to criticize it, and point a finger directly at it after he realized the decrepitness of the players was destroying his health, his mind, his life, his soul.

    Excerpt: “We used certain financial constructions, international legislation, to move the money in such a way making everything ‘ok’. So all supervisors, regulatory bodies that are in place world wide, because they are, that no one wakes-up seeing what’s going on, like a year or two ago, with the scandal around Panama – The Panama papers. I think, well that was about avoiding taxes, tax evasion is when you break all the rules. This had to do with avoiding. But when you see what happened there, I’m like guys that is old news, and who are you boring with that, because it is peanuts and hardly relevant. However, for the common people, that is great news, but it is not anything big. But it does show, there is something very wrong in this world.

    In the 1990’s with the Iraq boycott, the only thing Iraq and their buying partners wanted, was to remain free of any accusations. Because the partners who bought the oil were the ones placing the boycott in the first place. But they are actually friends of the same side. Everybody thinks there are opposites like good and bad guys in the world, but on the higher levels it is just a game and they are all working together. However, they do have to stick to the rules and regulations, they themselves have created to keep the rest of society suppressed and make sure that it will not be too crowded at the top. So you have to play by your own rules. So what is going on there, is to make sure that nobody can trace you, apart from the elite themselves, nobody in lower ranks can find out what really happened.

    There are 8,000 to 8,500 people in the world who run the entire world. The interests of the people involved are huge, especially for the top. We are talking about having nerves of steel to function at this level. I played at the highest level for about 5 years. Then it was over, I was out and done, it was a very intense moment. I give a small example of what is involved, currency exchange, dollar to something else, deposited in a safe manner, and managing assets so it could grow a rate of return, leading to reinvestment with the money. Staying within the rules of the game, but I played around with them to make everything match up. I loved that game. However, on the other hand you had a great amount of responsibility and you learned more and more about the real world. Since through the financial world you learn all of the actual truth. My clients were banks who didn’t want blood on their hands, but within those banks there always is a number of people who know damn well what is going on. One percent within a bank knows the truth of the matter regarding the happenings within the world, those are your clients. You also have governments to deal with, multinationals, you have to deal with secret services and what they now call terrorist organizations.

    You get all of the groups that involved with the big money as clients, then you start seeing the connections, so they might be compartmentalized regarding knowledge, but because I am in the middle I see how they relate to another; you see the money coming from this place, then going to that place, etc you keep gaining information and thereby overview of what is really going on. Keep everyone happy, even terrorists. One of the things that I found out, I did not know that before, but I now do – is about secret services; you think they are there to serve and protect a people, country, etc. but they actually turn out to be criminal organizations, to be more precise, the system is heavily so.

    We are talking about financing wars, creating wars, so basically creating a lot of misery in this world, so lots of conflict. And then I think to myself, if only people knew what the world is really like. Secret Services will stop at nothing. Nothing. But they also have their flows of money because if they are trading in drugs or weapons or, for that matter, people, all that money has to go somewhere. Everything has to be financed. All governments, all of them. All of them. So the entire world as we think we know it, is just an illusion we believe in. This is why things started to fall apart for me. There were things happening, for example I went to a different trade market, and one of my colleagues there said: “Ronald, you remember that case with the Italian Lira? You remember those deals in which we did massive dumping of the lira which reduced the value of the currency, causing a company to bankrupt?” And then they say: “Did you know that the owner committed suicide…?” Things like that, and back then we laughed at it! Ha Ha Ha, all together, all of us. We looked down on people, mocked them, it was just a product, waste, everything was worthless trash, nature, the planet, everything could burn and break – just as long as we met our goals, as long as we were growing.

    All those horrible things, started to eat at me. It is a very difficult part for me to talk about, it evokes lots of emotions and touches me deeply. That was the beginning of the end for me, you get so deep into these circles and you sign a lifetime contract to never disclose names of companies, organizations or people. I think that is why I am still alive. You have to stick to it.

    If we are talking about the worst things that I have experienced, let’s put it this way, I was training to become a psychopath, and I failed. My conscience came back and the most difficult part for me was because I had such a great status there. I was trusted with the people playing at this level. But to put it carefully, most of these people followed a not very mainstream religion. So you have Catholics, Protestants, all sorts of religions. These people, most of them, were Luciferians. For these people, it is truth and reality, and they served something immaterial, what they called Lucifer. I laughed at it, they were my clients, we visited churches of Satan, I would drop by for my clients, where they were doing their Holy Mass with naked women, liquor and stuff, and it amused me, I didn’t believe in any of this stuff.

    But at some point, I was invited. To participate in sacrifices abroad. That was the breaking point. Children. I couldn’t do that. And then I started to slowly break down. But that is the world I found myself in. I started to refuse assignments. I could no longer do it. Which made me a threat. I had not participated. The purpose of the whole thing, eventually, in that world is that they have everybody in their pocket. You need to be susceptible to blackmail. They wanted to do that through those children, and that broke me. You’ll find enough witness accounts worldwide to know this isn’t a fairy-tale. The truth is, worldwide they have been doing this for thousands of years. I studied the bible and theology, you find references to these practices with Israelites. There is a whole invisible world, it is real. . . .

    Watch for yourself, this man’s 40-minute interview/confession

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  30. Penelope Cottrell says:

    Explained very well. Great explanation of Trump economy. Thank you!


  31. Jeff says:

    ” gentlemen start your engines ” The engines of CAPITALISM !!

    With the STOMPY FOOT class exiting the EPA in droves Norther California can now turn on the IRRIGATION system . The SNAIL DARTER EXTORTION has ended with the election of DJT !!

    America’s BREAD BASKET is open for business !!


  32. Carshop says:

    Did anyone else have the comments of CIFUS board jump out at them and be immediately reminded of Uranium One? Man, this is an incestuous bunch, and we’re the marks.

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  33. Jeff says:

    I’m reminded of the Karl Rove splitter plan Sundance educated us on . The DEEP STATE SHADOW GOVERNMENT had let down it’s guard because the election was in the BAG in their minds .

    Machiavelli Trump and his core group are the REAL coup detat . With the MONSTER VOTE help of the Deplorables and VULGARIAN ARMY we now are BACK in control of America as founded .

    The BATTLES are RAGING and the WAR is only just begun . WE ARE CAPTURING GROUND every day !!



  34. G. Combs says:

    I wrote this when we, farmers were fighting NAFA, the WTO and the placement of the Food Safety Modernization act that would allow the Ag Corporate Cartel to capture most of the world food supply. I am using long quotes since the information is long gone from the internet.
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    I graphed the food poisoning reported to the CDC for the three years BEFORE and after WTO/USDA change from inspecting FOOD to inspecting corporate generated PAPERWORK. The food borne disease DOUBLED. This graph was presented to Congress and the CDC said the change was because reports were now emailed instead of sent by snailmail. 🙄

    Now with 20-20 hindsight, I realize the increase in food borne disease was to generate a public out cry for Congress to DO SOMETHING! The result was the Food Safety Modernization act that hands regulating US farms over to the WTO (Ag cartel)
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    I and others have spent years untangling the threads leading to the root cause of this major threat to American consumers. The reason is well hidden and candy-coated so the public can not pinpoint it. Unfortunately the time to act is running out, so please bear with me while I lead you through the maze to the correct answer. A simple statement will not suffice because without evidence it is unbelievable.

    The New York Times article “The Safety Gap” written by Gardiner Harris, 11/2/2008

    “This year, 18.2 million shipments of food, devices, cosmetics and drugs are expected to enter more than 300 U.S. ports; the FDA. had 454 investigators in 2007 — one and a half per port — to scrutinize them..”

    “China’s leap to one of the biggest suppliers of pharmaceutical ingredients in the world over the last decade [note the date], Generic drug makers in the United States, where price competition is fierce, were the first to seek cheaper drug ingredients…Over the past six years, the F.D.A. has managed to inspect annually an average of just 15 of the 714 Chinese drug plants that export to the United States. At its present pace, the FDA. would need more than 50 years to visit all Chinese plants. By contrast, the FDA. inspects domestic drug plants every 2.7 years[…] ”

    Report Rips FDA Oversight Of Produce
    “FDA’s efforts to combat foodborne illness are hampered by staffing shortages, infrequent inspections and lax enforcement at fresh produce processing plants, according to congressional investigators. The Government Accountability Office (GAO) report also said only 1% of produce imported into the U.S. is inspected, and the practice of mixing produce from several sources makes tracing contamination challenging…The report said inspections at produce-processing facilities are rare, and when problems are discovered, FDA relies on the industry to correct them without oversight or follow-up. Between 2000 and 2007, FDA detected food safety problems at more than 40% of the 2,002 plants inspected, yet half of those plants were inspected only once. The plants with food safety problems received only warning letters from FDA, and even those ended in 2005…

    Salmonella Source Found
    The Salmonella strain associated with the lastest foodborne illness outbreak has been found, in irrigation water as well as in a sample from some serrano peppers at a Mexican farm. The farm is located in Nuevo Leon, Mexico. “The agency seized no fresh produce, sought no injunctions and prosecuted no firms”

    Meatpacking Maverick: John Munsell’s against-the-odds struggle for improved food safety — Mother Jones Magazine, December 2003 Issue By Michael Scherer Dec 29, 2003,
    (I have traded several e-mails with John. He is a GOOD Guy.)

    “Before the tainted beef arrived — USDA-approved and vacuum-sealed – Munsell had no reason to doubt the integrity of the food-safety system. But that changed after the meat he ground for hamburger tested positive for E. coli 0157:H7. Instead of tracking the contaminated meat back to its source, the USDA launched an investigation of Munsell’s own operation. Never mind that the local federal inspector had seen the beef go straight from the package into a clean grinder — a USDA spokesman called that testimony “hearsay.” By February 2002, three more tests of meat Munsell was grinding straight from the package came back positive.

    This time, as he would later testify in a government hearing, he had paperwork documenting that the beef came from a single source: ConAgra:

    Munsell fired off an angry email to the district USDA manager, warning of a potential public-health emergency, and adding that if no one tracked down the rest of the bad meat, “both of us should share a cell in Alcatraz.” The agency moved immediately and aggressively — not to recall meat from Greeley, but to shut down Munsell’s grinding operation, a punishment that lasted four months. [John ultimately lost his business.]

    Despite Munsell’s continued whistleblowing — to Senator Conrad Burns (R-Mont.), national cattle associations, and his fellow meat processors — the USDA failed to address the alleged contamination at ConAgra’s Greely Plant. Then, in July 2002, Munsell’s worst fears came true. E. coli-tainted burger from Greeley killed an Ohio woman and sickened at least 35 others.
    ConAgra then recalled 19 million pounds of beef, one of the largest recalls in history.”

    Unfortunately this is just one of many “incidents” handle in such a way that transnational corporations are not “inconvenienced”.

    Stanley Painter, Chairman of the National Food Inspection Unions, stated in his testimony at the congressional hearing on the Hallmark Dower Cows:
    “..when we see violations of FSIS regulations and we are instructed not to write non-compliance reports… Sometimes even if we write non-compliance reports, some of the larger companies use their political muscle to get those overturned….Some of my members have been intimidated by agency management in the past when they came forward and tried to enforce agency regulations and policies. I will give you a personal example:

    In December 2004, I began to receive reports that the new SRM regulations were not being uniformly enforced. I wrote a letter to the Assistant FSIS Administrator for Field Operations at the time conveying to him what I had heard…I was paid a visit at my home in Alabama by an FSIS official dispatched from the Atlanta regional office to convince me to drop the issue. I told him that I would not. Then, the agency summoned me to come here to Washington, DC where agency officials subjected me to several hours of interrogation including wanting me to identify which of my members were blowing the whistle on the SRM removal violations. I refused to do so….I was then placed on disciplinary investigation status. The agency even contacted the USDA Office of Inspector General to explore criminal charges being filed against me…

    Both my union AFGE and the consumer group Public Citizen filed separate Freedom of Information Act requests in December 2004 for any non-compliance records in the FSIS data base that would support my allegations. It was not until August 2005 that over 1000 non-compliance reports – weighing some 16 pounds — were turned over to both AFGE and Public Citizen that proved that what my members were telling me was correct – that some beef slaughter facilities were not complying with the SRM removal regulations… on the same day those records were released, I received written notification from the agency that they were dropping their disciplinary investigation – eight months after their “investigation” began.”

    [SRM removal regulations concern brain and spine removal to prevent BSE]


  35. G. Combs says:

    “Today, America has the safest food in the world.” stated Secretary of Agriculture Dan Glickman in 1997.(again note that date, it is significant) (wwwDOT)usda.gov/news/releases/1997/08/0284
    Yet during the last few years the USDA has spent millions of dollars and hours of time bribing states, tribes and breed associations to back the implementation of “traceability”. What is “traceability”?

    Traceability has four parts, all paid for by the farmer:
    1. Premises ID removes privacy rights from land and become a permanent part of the deed. It places information about the residence into a data base and allows search without a warrant.
    2. Animal ID (NAIS) puts RFID tags on every horse, bird and livestock animal in the nation and requires the owner to have a Premise ID. (Corporate Factory Farms are exempt from tagging)
    3. Tracking is input of movement by an animal off the premises into a database within 24 hrs.
    4. Penalties of up to of $1,000,000 in fines and ten years in jail.

    A bit of research and analysis shows that this shift in focus from inspection to traceability has other consequences as well as the financial burden on farmers. Some are relatively easy to predict, other consequences, though, are hidden, and will only emerge in the course of implementation.

    Cutback in Testing
    The USDA has cut back on disease testing by up to 90%. and has shifted what testing is done to dead animals at slaughter instead of testing live animals at the farm. This allows a disease years to be passed from one farm to another before the animal is finally sent to slaughter.

    The USDA is also closing down testing labs. “USDA is moving toward supporting fewer labs nationwide, with the remaining labs serving as regional labs and supporting larger geographic areas..” (wwwDOT)tahc.state.tx.us/agency/TAHC_Strategic_Plan_2009-2013.pdf

    “Cattle crossing facilities on the U.S. side of the border are operated primarily by private firms… at Santa Teresa, NM, Chihuahuan [Mexican] cattle producers operate both sides of the cattle port-of-entry” (wwwDOT)ers.usda.gov/publications/Agoutlook/june2001/AO282d.pdf

    “Free trade makes it easier for Mexico to sell us cattle,” Mr. Suppan said. “Mexico does not have in place the infrastructure to eradicate tuberculosis.”…Bovine tuberculosis is fast becoming an important reason that carcasses are being condemned as unsafe in American beef packing plants. The number of carcasses found infected is 15 times higher than in 1986. Dr. Billy Johnson, said about 80 percent of the condemned carcasses were traced back to animals raised in Mexico.” http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CE5D91431F935A25752C1A965958260&sec=health&spon=&pagewanted=all

    To Make matters worse the USA exports 700,000 tons of quality beef while importing 1,500,000 tons from countries with: Naegleria fowler, Encephalitis, vesicular stomatitis viruses, Leptospirosis, Trypanosomiasis (Chagas disease), and foot and mouth disease. The US imports 2.5 million live cattle from Canada with BSE (now found in USA) and from Mexico with tuberculosis (now found in USA), brucellosis (now found in USA) cattle tick fever, (now found in USA) Trypanosoma cruz,, (now found in USA), Bluetongue (now found in USA), and Vesicular stomatitis.

    “..new disease challenges are emerging. Some are domestic diseases that are increasing in significance. Others are foreign diseases that may be imported as result of the exponential increases in international importations of animals and animal products. Our industries and our economy are threatened by diseases and pests that heretofore we only read about in disease text books…” (wwwDOT)tahc.state.tx.us/agency/TAHC_Strategic_Plan_2009-2013.pdf


  36. G. Combs says:

    THE GOAL: Transfer of Corporate Liability
    Wisconsin was the first state to make NAIS mandatory. The corporate response is quite interesting. Family farmers have feared that: “One of the big goals of NAIS is to shift liability to the farmers and off of the packers and retail chains. This is despite the fact that virtually all food contamination happens at the slaughterhouse and beyond.” http://nonais.org/2008/07/08/transferring-liability/

    Paul-Martin:Griepentrog on September 3, 2008 reported that this was indeed the case. He attended “quality assurance training required for Badger Vac 45.” And reported “You [the farmer] will be required to cover ALL expenses in the event of contamination…The bottom line is that after 10 years [note the date] of below normal prices here in Wis because the state allowed Equity Livestock Coop to create a monopoly, our savior has now arrived to burden us with contracts shifting all liability to feeder cattle producers if they can’t prove they are innocent.“ http://nonais.org/2008/09/01/bulletin-board-200809/#comment-1395096
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    Hidden Consequences
    The first consequence is the mass exit of millions of Americans from animal ownership and later vegetable gardening and crop farming as FDA follows the USDA’s lead. Between RFID tagging, tracking, fines, jail terms, massive paperwork and the shift in liability no one in their right mind will grow food in the USA. Small farmers, like me, will become extinct (I no longer sell my sheep and goats.) What is the financial impact? In my state all farms except for 171 are family held (2002 Ag Census). That is 53759 NC family farms with $3,145,202,000 spent on supplies and $617,679,000 spent on labor. A total of $3,762,881,000 added to the states economy. Then add 56,000 NC horses with a Total Economic Impact: of over 704 million and you get 4.5 BILLION. A real healthy chunk of change. Do the politicians want the newspapers to know they plan to kill 4.5 BILLION dollars worth of business in just one state?
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    Diverting focus from disease
    Because the high fines promise to pour money into the USDA and FDA coffers, inspector time will be diverted from disease surveillance to hunting for paperwork violations and tracking infractions. [This is what actually happen]
    Results — A study on how asset forfeiture effects drug enforcement “revealed a concentration on seizing real property with a high value. In addition, real property seizures are preplanned and commonly made under the controversial facilitation statute.” Efficiency is measured by the amount of money seized rather than impact on drug trafficking.” The Study described forfeiture as a “dysfunctional policy” that forces law enforcement agencies to “subordinate justice to profit.” — Drug Enforcement’s Double Edged Sword: An Assessment of Asset Forfeiture Programs Source: Justice Quarterly, Volume 11,.Number 2, June 1994
    Do we want the USDA and FDA to focus on profit instead of food safety?
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    Consumer illness will become the primary “disease prevention tool”
    The public will become the major “testing ground” for disease as lab testing is minimized in favor of “Traceability” “Risk Assessment” and a management system from ISO/OIE called “Good Farming Practices”. Instead of catching food safety problems BEFORE they get to the consumer, the new focus is to track back the problem AFTER it has sickened and killed consumers. Transnational corporations will try to transfer liability to the farmer so they do not lose their reputations or have to pay for lawsuits. There is even a conference scheduled in 2009 addressing how to pass the blame to farmers.

    Conference to address food-borne illness litigation
    “The conference will cover topics such as aligning damage assessments/expectations with the outcomes from recent resolved litigation; managing an outbreak effectively to minimize shareholder and reputational risk afterwards as quickly as possible; and how to measure and prove actual control of various players in the movement of contaminated food to accurately assess apportionment of liability.

    Risk Assessment
    “There is a small chance that mad cow disease.. (BSE), is already in this country, according to a risk assessment released today by Harvard University. The risk assessment concluded that even if BSE had entered this country, it wouldn’t become a major public health problem, although human illnesses could occur”.Harvard Risk Assessment 12/3/2001
    This is the “scientific basis” behind the USDA ban on 100% BSE testing at Creekstone Farms and mandating “less than 1 percent [40000 per year] of slaughtered cattle to be tested for BSE. The agency contends that more comprehensive testing doesn’t guarantee food safety and may produce a false positive that alarms consumers.” http://www.cspinet.org/new/madcowpr_12_03_01.html Of course if you do not test you will not find the disease.

    With tainted food in foreign imports, why is the USDA and FDA spending so much time and resources fixing a problem that does not exist while ignoring the flood of imports coming across our borders?

    From International Organization OIE (Office International des Épizooties) we have:
    “It is urgent that scientists come forward with alternative methods of disease control that will not only avoid wastage of valuable animal proteins but that will also promote the international trade of animals and animal products by removing technically unjustified trade barriers caused by animal diseases” (wwwDOT)oie.int/eng/press/en_040422.htm

    Note unjustified trade barriers is straight out of the WTO Agreement on Agriculture.
    “Furthermore, it can help to eliminate unjustified trade barriers, since a sound traceability system provides trading partners with assurances on the safety of the products they import. Traceability techniques can provide additional guarantees as to the origin, type or organoleptic quality of food products.” (wwwDOT)oie.int/eng/edito/en_edito_apr08.htm

    Yet it is brutally obvious that traceability does nothing to prevent disease, it only allows blame to be placed after the fact ON THE FARMER!


  37. G. Combs says:

    F. William Engdahl says of the WTO/HACCP idea rules put free-trade of agribusiness above national health concerns. “The IPC was created in 1987 to lobby for the GATT agriculture rules of WTO at the Uruguay GATT talks. The IPC demanded removal of ‘high tariff’ barriers in developing countries, remaining silent on the massive government subsidy to agribusiness in the USA…. The IPC is controlled by US-based agribusiness giants which benefit from the rules they drafted for WTO trade…”

    John Munsell writes about HACCP’S Disconnect From Public Health Concerns
    http://johnmunsell.com/articles/HACCP-Disconnect-From-Public-Health-Concerns.html (Sorry site is now dead— DARN! It is a very good, eyeopening article on the USDA shift from inspecting meat to inspecting paperwork. Wayback may have archived it.)

    These new international regulations have nothing to do with making food safe. They are about forcing family farmers off the land CHEAPLY via fines, bankruptcy and government confiscation. As world population expands, the demand for arable land should soar. At least that’s what George Soros, Lord Rothschild, and other investors believe. — moneyDOTcnn.com/2009/06/08/retirement/betting_the_farm.fortune/

    The elite are not about to allow family farmers to cash in on the next big boom cycle. We already know that regulations are preferentially enforced thanks to the ‘regulatory capture’ and The Revolving Door Between Gov’t And Big Business


  38. G. Combs says:

    I am hoping my old notes from decades ago are readable and help you understand just how DOWN RIGHT EVIL these people are.

    They had ZERO problem with poisoning children who died in agony from a deadly strain of e-coli that developed in CORPORATE OWNED factory live stock operations. They THEN had the 😡GAUL😡 to march out one of the grieving mothers to stump for the Food Safety Modernization Act, all so the World Trade Organization could gain control of the independent American farmers. I still see red a decade later!

    Here is the Food Safety Modernization Act tie in to the World Trade Organization and NAFTA

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    Nothing in this Act (or an amendment made by this Act) shall be construed in a manner inconsistent with the agreement establishing the World Trade Organization or any other treaty or international agreement to which the United States is a party.

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    Thank you SOooo Much Senator Burr for screwing over the farmers in your state by co-sponsoring this piece of crap!


  39. Tommy Tunes says:

    Look how they are driving the story about NAFTA , like oh those poor farmers need NAFTA so they can continue to be broke , LOL , https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/tough-times-in-the-heartland-as-farmers-consider-bailing-out/ar-BBHpljj?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp


  40. John Bosley says:

    Once again Sundance has it spot on.
    This GIANT scheme of a monopoly run by a few truly Evil people at the top of the pyramid must be shattered.
    However one man can not do it on his own.
    I fear that in the end Trump will be killed if he is genuine in his attempt to wrest back even some small smiddgen of control.
    That is why he is surrounding himself with the military.
    In the end I doubt even he can stop this juggernaut of true Evil, foisted upon us by the Devil, Lucifer himself.
    Pray to God to deliver us from this in some fashion, one way or another.


  41. PecosPete says:



  42. Deb says:

    Trillions of dollars are at stake.

    God bless and protect President Donald J. Trump and his family.


  43. Patriot1783 says:

    and when prices hold steady…look at the packaging, size and number of items within such as cookies or snack bars, yes I still buy for the lunches. Look at portion size and number, Nabisco choc chip cookies now look like quarters and there are much less in the smaller package.


  44. jhorn85 says:

    Just read this a second time linked from a newer article. I think this is one of my favorites.


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