It has been said that all wars are “bankers wars,” however, against the modern era of inverted fascism where corporations tell the govt what policies take priority, the more accurate truism ‘is all wars being controlled by money’, not necessarily banks.
The European Commission has constructed a very special kind of proactive financing for Ukraine that doesn’t require them to give their own €uros to the historically corrupt country. Partly because the EU doesn’t have their own money, and partly because everything the EU does in the sphere of finance is always a false construct, what the EU put together was a financial system based on sanctioned, confiscated (ie stolen) Russian sovereign wealth funds {citation}.
As part of the sanction regime, the EU and western NATO alliance seized roughly €250 billion, $300 billion USD, in Russian sovereign wealth assets. As long as the USA was financing the Ukraine government and war effort, those funds sat on the sidelines undiscussed. However, once the USA stopped writing checks to Ukraine an alternate finance system was needed.
What the EU (Ursula von der Leyen) put together was a finance package using the confiscated $300 billion in the Russian sovereign wealth fund as collateral for loans to Ukraine. The EU would send the money to Ukraine as a loan that did not have a payback mechanism. Instead, the thinking goes that when the negotiations for a ceasefire take place, Russia would be forced to give up the confiscated $300 billion as part of a reparations package to Ukraine.
Ukraine doesn’t have to pay back the loans because Russia will be forced to give up their sovereign wealth fund, and those funds will repay the loans. That’s the way the EU financing of Ukraine is set up. {SOURCE} The EU isn’t giving Ukraine EU money; the EU is giving Ukraine the Russian wealth fund money.
Now, immediately you can see a few problems.
♦ PROBLEM 1 – What happens if Russia demands the return of their $300 billion as one of their baseline terms for a peace deal? If the confiscated money is given back to Russia, the EU and Ukraine are on the hook for the $300 billion they would have spent.
♦ PROBLEM 2 – With #1 in mind, there is now an incentive to never reach a peace agreement or ceasefire; at least never reach a solution that would consider the return of the $300 billion. Russian Federation President Vladimir Putin has previously said the stolen money belongs to the Russian people and must be returned; he will never accept the theft.
Zero Sum Loggerheads – If Vladimir Putin refuses to accept the theft, and the EU won’t return the stolen assets, it seems the only option left is to escalate the Ukraine conflict, with the EU aiming to defeat Russia. It doesn’t seem like a coincidence that this appears to be their current approach.
Yesterday in a stunning interview with Sky News, President Zelenskyy said a few remarkable things. One, he has plenty of money and two, Zelenskyy wants to build big, big factories in Great Britain in order to build missiles and drones away from the threat of Russian countermeasures.
The sick irony is that Zelenskyy would be building missiles and drones in the U.K to attack Russia using money confiscated by the EU/U.K and given to Ukraine. However, in this bizarre world that’s the reality of the thing.
When you overlay the pragmatic, transactional nature of President Trump into this dynamic, we can see how things look even more muddied over this confiscated Russian sovereign wealth. President Trump has often advocated for “taking the oil” or assets of a country to pay for the military expenditures incurred by the USA. Both in Afghanistan (theoretical) and in Venezuela (reality) this Trumpian approach is visible. To the victors go the spoils.
Russia is militarily holding approximately 20% of the land mass of Ukraine, the Donbas region, with no intention of ever returning it. Putin wants his sovereign wealth fund restored, and, if his doctrine is to be consistent, President Trump has no room to say Putin shouldn’t get it back.
The Europeans likely understand that President Trump is ideologically on the side of President Putin on this national economic aspect. The EU is against the return of sovereign Russian wealth. This part is a very interesting dynamic to watch.
Meanwhile, there are ancillary interests that exist within the economics of the conflict with direct stakes into the billions of euros. One of those interests is held by Ukraine’s richest person, a very corrupt billionaire Rinat Akhmetov, the owner of mining and steel firm Metinvest and the Ukraine power company DTEK.
Pay close attention. Billionaire Rinat Akhmetov (DTEK) has a lot on the line in the Russia -vs- Ukraine conflict.
[…] Akhmetov lost more than half of his assets as a result of the full-scale invasion, with many of his industrial holdings, such as the Azovstal steel plant in Mariupol, destroyed or damaged during the fighting. According to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, as of Oct. 31, Akhmetov’s net worth fell by 52% to $5.39 billion compared to the pre-war numbers.
Billionaire oligarch Rinat Akhmetov operated in that very lucrative space between Ukraine and Russia. Akhmetov’s assets are directly tied to both nations now in conflict. Akhmetov even has operational loans from Russian banks that have not been repaid due to the sanction’s regime, and if there ever was a resolution to the fighting, he would also be on the hook for repayment as well as the loss of his industrial assets in the Donbas.
[NOTE: Keep in mind, one of the primary issues that brought Putin to power was his opposition to the Russian oligarchs who surfaced as wealthy control agents following the collapse of the Soviet Union. The billionaire oligarchs controlled Russian politics until strong man Putin diminished them, smacked them in the nose and took back control.]
There is a lot of motivation for Rinat Akhmetov (DTEK Energy Co.) to support funding pro-Ukraine influence operations against Russia considering the billions at stake from direct energy company asset losses and reconstruction funds that he could also benefit from…
YAHOO NEWS – Ukraine’s richest man Rinat Akhmetov allegedly borrowed $400 million from Russia’s largest bank, Sberbank, the International Consortium of Investigate Journalists (ICIJ) said on Nov. 14, citing information obtained from leaked documents dubbed “Cyprus Confidential.”
The documents are part of a massive leak of millions of files obtained from Cypriot financial service providers.
The files also shed light on Akhmetov’s involvement in Russia’s coal industry after the annexation of Crimea in 2014. In 2016, Akhmetov’s energy company DTEK transferred ownership of a number of coal mines to a subsidiary of Fabcell Ltd., based in Cyprus. She bought these mines four years earlier in the southwest of Russia in the Rostov region. DTEK also transferred to the subsidiary a significant loan obligation in the amount of about USD 400 million from Sberbank (Russia’s largest state-owned bank).
In January 2017, Fabcell reclassified its shares into 7,999 common shares and one gold share. The gold share was assigned to Sberbank, which would allow the bank to gain control over Akhmetov’s company in case of non-fulfillment of its obligations.
[…] In response to the investigation, Akhmetov issued a statement to ICIJ saying that the loans provided by Sberbank and others before Russia’s illegal annexation of Crimea in 2014 were “standard practice for Ukrainian borrowers.”
Transferring the ownership of the Russian coal mines to the Cypriot subsidiary was a way of “limiting [DTEK’s] exposure to the claims of Sberbank as creditor and paved the way to exiting DTEK’s investment in the Rostov Coal Mines.”
In June 2022, Akhmetov filed a lawsuit at the European Court of Human Rights against Russia for gross violations of his property rights. Akhmetov asked for “billions of dollars” to compensate for the blockade, looting, destruction, and theft of his grain and metal from Ukraine to Russia. (read more)
With all of that said, we now have a solid baseline for how some financial interests in Ukraine are positioned.
All of the above information should help us to understand the dynamics and stakeholders.
World War Reddit continues.



Seems the best answer to this nonsense is to get out of NATO. The only reason the EU is going down this path is because they have us as the backstop. If we’re not in the mix, they have no ability to fight a war with Russia.
I am afraid that if we aren’t involved the UK and France will start WW3.
It’s only a WW if the world intentionally involves themselves.
If they start a war they would be the aggressor & we aren’t obliged to defend them under A5.
We also aren’t obliged to defend them if we’re outside of NATO.
alliances are one of the top 5 reasons a country be sucked into war
Viz. WWI.
I read somewhere that it takes like 2+ years to actually exit NATO. So if we start now, it won’t happen for 2 more years.
That would be World War One-Hundred Eleven, get with it:-) That’s the Ilhan Omar numerical system.
Would that be World War Eye Eye Eye ?
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Aye, Aye, Sir.
I think they probably would anyway. It’s nuts.
With each other? If not, with whom?
Lsr them do it.
Tell them we are withdrwing, and we are happy to cede our pla e in NATO to Ukraine who will be happy to backstop all of the EU..
Then we can signal permission to Russoa by nuking Iran.
SIR …. SORRY ……BUT YOU SOUND WORSE THAN ALL WARMONGERS IN THE. CONgre$$…..REGARD LAST SENTENCE….
they will start it in order to suck us in. same as always.
As pointed out above, Article 5 means they have to be attacked first in order to drag us into any conflict.
Some give Putin shortshrift if they think he will fire the first shot in what could become a NATO war. He understands what is at stake, and he’s no fool.
I wouldn’t put it past the British to bomb themselves & blame it on Russia, in order to drag us into the war.
OTOH, it might help clear up their muslim invasion
The Brit’s and French certainly made mess if the ME!
Let them fight. None of our business
Let them. We don’t need any of them. The U.S. can survive on our own with our Allies in our own Hemisphere.
And, or, the Empire is losing its grip.
Protector of the faiths?
More like protector of their money/power.
The sad part of getting out of, even ending, NATO is that the world already knows what happens when those nations are left to their own devices – WWI and WWII – so it may be that in an odd way NATO is the stumbling block from letting those Europeans create the next world war.
One of those Catch 22 situations when it comes to NATO.
The MIC of the US makes too much money from arm’s sales to NATO countries for us to pull out. As much as Trump thinks them fools his businessman brain can’t let him walk away from all that American profit.
Seems to me that Ukrainian missile factories on UK soil would be legitimate targets for the Russians.
No skin off my ass, but I don’t think King Chuck knows what he may be getting his country in for.
A Russian attack on factories in the UK would be the pretext to trigger Article 5.
An Article 5 trigger is exactly what Western globalists want. Even announcing such a plan is a blatant provocation and an attempt to bait a Russian military response.
I think if Russia slaps the UK down for hosting Ukrainian armament factories when the UK can barely put 2 ships to sea, the US should send them condolences, a large box of kleenex and then sit back and chuckle quietly because we don’t have to come their aid if they provoked the attack by their own actions.
IDK… I can see PDJT saying somethig along the lines of “Sorry… it’s not my war.”
So Nord Stream them …
Britain has been warning the citizens to stockpile food and water due to the possibility of a Russian attack. Which it appears they are provoking. Is it due to the fact that Russia will not play along in their globalist games?
Shudder to think what happens if the UK food chain is disrupted and the barbarian hordes go after the food in private hands.
Here it would end in a short hot war but how do the Brits defend themselves?
Acts of sabotage will be the most likely angle of attack. I am certain there are more than enough disgruntled individuals to carry it off.
King Chuck as you call him has no political capitol. The British Royal Family are figureheads, nothing more.
You haven’t been paying attention. Did you know that King Charles controls the City of London where Lloyds of London and other elite companies call home? For decades they have bee selling ship and cargo insurance for those transiting the Strait of Hormuz, then sending a cut of the money to the Mullahs in Iran not to attack them. You really need to go to the Promethian Action site.
King Charles and his predecessors going back to William 1 1066 have anything to do with “ The City of London” or financial district. The monarch is forbidden to even enter “ The City of London “ Which is a completely different entity from greater London in which The City of London is located.
1066 and even before with the Viking conquerors the Saxons who created THE CITY OF LONDON were able to maintain the city as a self governing entity Interested only in finance and commerce.
Monarch can’t even enter The City.
Does a remote controlled device detonate their car if they dare to enter? What are you talking about?
King Chuck is the head of state. The Prime Minister works for the King. Chuck is the one calling the shots. England has been trying to destroy Russia for centuries.
Seems to me that Ukrainian missile factories on UK soil would be legitimate targets for the Russians.
Thus making them a False Flag target for ReichsFuhrer Z-Bag.
He has a long, long history of attacking his own sites and those of his allies. He just bombed his own cathedrals. The way he publicized his Drone Expo indicates he wanted Russia to bomb it. He’s attacked his own troops at times, his own nuclear site and citizens. He attacked our Capitol on Jan. 6th and I believe he and his CIA handlers murdered Charlie.
His entire presidency is a False Flag. He works for the Endless War World Mafia, so all his incentives are inverted. He has no motive to stop the Cannon Fodder deaths of Ukrainians and make Peace. Quite the opposite.
Queen Charles understands perfectly that he is painting a target on the backs of Portsmouth Britons, just like he arranged for British women and children to be gang-raped by his Islamic pals.
For these monsters, World War III is a Feature, not a Bug.
King Chuck? Still laughing on that one!!! Made my day, at least I wasn’t drinking any coffee to go up my nose!
It is bazar to me that you seem to imply that Russia prevailing in this war is the better outcome, BECAUSE Ukraine has been corrupt in the past, and surely is at some level with this kind of spending going on now. You do this over and over.
Ukrainians have nazi’s. End.of.story.
If you were occupied by Lenin Stalin genocidal monsters 1918 to 1950s you might turn to the lesser evil Nazis too.
FILTHY LIBERALS
Sundance is EDUCATING US HOW these EVIL, UNELECTED Demons will start WW3. (That’s World War 3)…
Russia has more in common with the Far West USA, than it does with beta empath EUROPE.
Don’t Poke the Bear.
“UKRAINE” must be defeated. …
During WWII, we shipped to Russia over 350,000 TONS of Spam and Spam-like canned meat. It saved many many millions of people that were fending off the Nazi Germans. We didn’t do that for the insane political leadership that was hung up on a sinister ideology! We did that for starving people that looked a lot like us!
Gen.Armagedon (Surovikin) been unleash by VVP.. some week ago to finish war…….
Yes.
Crimea River.
It’s bizarre to me that you can’t spell “bizarre.”
It’s also bizarre to me that you are saying that Sundance is rooting for Russia. He has never said that. He is simply reporting the facts concerning the corruption involving Ukraine, the EU, NATO, and corrupt “influencers” like Laura Loomer.
And speaking of that corruption…..It is bizarre to me that you said that “Ukraine has been corrupt in the past.” Ukraine is filthy dirty corrupt RIGHT NOW and getting dirtier by the minute.
For future reference:
“Bizarre is an adjective that means very strange, odd, or unusual. It often describes things that are striking, unexpected, or wildly out of the ordinary.”
Harping on Bazaar…
Is out of fashion 🙂
Not in Vogue, either…
Uh-oh, we seem to have a couture-clash brewing… 😱 🤣
Seems like you’re starting a Couture Club…
Must be Karma 🙂
Brilliant-as usual!
🤣
By George, I think you’ve got it!
calling Wordman – beginnings of a conflagration here
Yes…Time to be waking up 🙂
Before you go-go.
Oh wait, that was the other fella. 🤪
YOU KRANE is more like an Arab Bazaar than a demcracy
Well since The Ukraine GVT targeted the Ukraine regions now under Russian control due to the fact Ukraine was slaughtering their own folks after the said population voted to leave Ukraine…why would you think Ukraine’s population would be better off if Russia is defeated?
Russia prevailing in this war against Ukraine is the better outcome.
“It has been said that all wars are bankers’ wars….”
“If my sons did not want wars, there would be none.”
~Gutle Schnapper Rothschild, German matriarch
Good morning Betsy…and we can add most of CONgre$$….
Afternoon, my friend…an apt addition. Lobbyists for Raytheon et al have them on speed dial it no doubt.
Howdy Betsy Dia Duit 🙏🏻
Well howdy yourself, dear.Mr jay 😉
Bendith Duw 💕
She was not a banker and did not understand banking.
When you total up the loss of life and earning power, the absolute destruction of assets in both sides of war…….There is no profit. There is only loss. Bankers do not want losses.
We can go further. Russia and the US nation states prevailing over the unelected globalist oligarchs who are working to destroy and plunder both is the better outcome.
Exactly as the US and Russia prevailing over the Axis powers in WWII was the better outcome.
Exactly why our IC, Congress and Euroweenies want the war to continue! They don’t want the best outcome!!! I don’t believe any of them want to war to end. I keep coming back to those who want Russia defeated and divided up in a bunch little independent countries using color revolutions and for Russia to disappear into history! Never going to happen! The Russian people survived the Germans and WWII they will survive the Euroweenies and our IC!!! JMO
Sundance: “Russia prevailing in this war against Ukraine is the better outcome.”
Vladimir Putin can achieve a full victory over Ukraine by getting truly serious about achieving a decisive victory on Russia’s terms, something he hasn’t done yet.
Putin can achieve that decisive victory by putting Russia on full wartime mobilization and then by greatly expanding his armed forces to give his military a decisive edge over Ukraine’s military and its NATO allies.
After that expansion has been accomplished, he can quickly transition from an attrition style of warfare into a high-mobility maneuver style of warfare — doing so with the full realization that enormous Russian casualties will be suffered over a period of five to six months before a final Russian victory is attained.
So far, Vladimir Putin hasn’t been willing to do what is clearly necessary to achieve a decisive Russian victory over Ukraine — that is, for his nation to pay a huge price in terms of Russian blood and treasure to achieve a decisive victory which will put an end to this war on Russia’s terms.
So now we must ask the question. For what reasons has Vladimir Putin chosen not to go forward with doing what is clearly necessary to achieve a decisive victory over Ukraine, a victory which will put an end to the war and end the suffering on both sides?
It has been said that Putin doesn’t want to destroy the physical (and human) assets of a country that he intends to occupy.
I assumed that President Trump agreed with this. But lately the media are suggesting that he is tilting to Z and Ukraine. True?
Of course the media is suggesting.
Reminds me of the line in The Russia House where Barley mentions that there is corruption in both the West and Russia. It’s just that (with Russia) “there’s less bulls**t.”
Go away globalist, anti-human….
Try posting to Mediate or some other place for the mentally ill..
Deal with the facts as they are, not how you wish them to be.
Russia IS prevailing.
Russia prevailing does seem to be the better outcome. Zelenksy cannot be trusted as millions have seen over the course of the war. There is far too much fraud and corruption and very little accountability for the billions that nations have ”bequeathed” to him. Then there is the question of Ukraine’s association with Hitler and the Nazis during and after World War II.
Russia, at the moment, has a far more stable government. With Putin, we get what we see. His increasing age predicts that he has a limited time left to govern. Whoever replaces him may be more ”West”-oriented. Zelensky will not lose power unless he is defeated by Russia. All general elections have been cancelled into the foreseeable future. That though has an impact on how many people view the man.
but zelenskyy is such a talented piano player. Really unusual talent.
Unusually obscene.
Ukraine=Globalists. It’s that simple. Plain to see as well. They CRAVE U.S. involvement because U.S. involvement means more money and supplies. Which means more death. But that’s fine with them. Globalists think the world is overpopulated so the more war the better, as they see it.
What a bizarre, unintelligible comment.
Mankind has developed a few situations they will never resolve by their intellect.
Russia vs Ukraine (actually Stalin vs Holodomor and others)
Sunni vs Shia
black vs white
democrat vs republican
Perhaps it would be an idea for you to familiarize yourself with exactly what has happened in Ukraine since 2014, the ‘civil war’ in Ukraine against Russian ethnics, the threats of NATO at Russia’s border, etc. Ukraine is not only ‘corrupt in the past’ it’s corrupt in the present. Russia prevailing IS the better outcome.
You could start the familiarization with why the US had 30 biolabs in Ukraine? If they were something good, we would have had them in the US.
History will show you the evil in Ukraine
If all the world players know these intersections of obtuse, nasty, contradictions of sanity and rationale, where does it end? Ugh, hate to imagine! What is the US/ potus strategy in intervention. Some heads need to be knocked together, the EU is evil.
The UK/EU/NATO will essentially screw themselves by stealing money from an alleged adversary, Zero credibility.
The EU/NATO forget that old adage, “What’s good for the goose…”
Perhaps to their detriment.
Generally, after a war ends, those who survived return home and create babies where a society’s balance may or may not return to pre war levels. Thus, leaders of those involved in war may look at those lives lost as no big deal, possibly suggesting other major values/principles were at play.
Putin’s “mind set” may be losing a majority position (support) in Russia…what other countries are on his side besides North Korea and possibly China? For Ukraine, many countries (leaders) have come forward supporting this war.
There is always “big bucks” involved in war. Greed has been around since the very beginning of time. Trump considers himself a “deal maker” of the first order, meaning he “sees deals from afar” unlike many others. Give them what they want and the war will end…nice idea but for who?
Now take a look at American debt. About 40 trillion dollars some say. Who holds the bonds to this debt? How and when will they collect? Maybe it’s time to re- read Shakespeare’s “Merchant of Venice” for a broader understanding.
Remember what Trump said years ago about owing money–modest sums vs giant sums. With modest sums, the bank calls the shots; with giant sums, the debtor does.
And when the debtor says “screw you!” all kinds of games begin…like war!
Most Russians know better than to count China as a friend or ally. And certainly not Iran.
Russia will have to eradicate Ukraine. Poland, Romania, and a few others would love to get more land.
If Russia doesn’t exterminate Ukraine then Ukrainians will terrorize Russia with drones for the next several decades even if there is a peace plan.
BTW, when Putin croaks the EU will be under a real threat from Russia. There are a lot of Russian Lindsey Grahams that will vie for power.
Th average person in the West does not understand who Putin is.
In terms of Russian politics, Putin is a moderate. He is a tempering force on the hardliners and is (or was) relatively pro-Western, someone who sought cooperation over conflict.
When Putin no longer exercises authority in Russian politics, that tempering force will be gone. And that explains why the globalist leadership wants him gone.
There is nothing more dangerous to radicals and their agendas than moderates.
Well said.
putin has actually said as much pretty recently: that they would rather give the western uke lands to the poles and hungarians, etc… and let NATO be on their border again. that ensures there is no grey area that is firing off guerrilla drones or something.
Impressive.
If WWIII starts in Europe as a result of this “stupidity” by the EU, I say we stay out of it, hands off. Poking the “bear” is foolish, the clowns at the EU think we will backstop them and I hope we don’t. The EU is asking for a fight and I don’t want to be a part of it.
Not our Circus, not our monkeys.
unless we exit NATO officially, there is virtually no chance we will not get dragged in
very true…
When will PDJT finally put his foot down and say ENOUGH!
America can easily say if the EU and NATO go through with this escalation the US cannot defend NATO, as a missile factory in the UK and taking Russia’s money is a direct threat to peace. Pulling out of NATO will be required but still might not stop these globalists.
If the EU thinks this will force the US to become more involved, they are wrong, as usual. We need to get out now and let them have their war. while we focus on developing our relationship with our hemisphere leading to North and South America becoming the dominant force in the world and the EU continuing their descent into irrelevancy.
Europe had it’s time as a global power but it ended when America beat them, and they don’t even realize they no longer rule the world. Europe will not fight the Russians. Their weak population will not stand for it. They will defeat themselves with massive protests and economic collapse.
Furthermore why oh why is congress allowed to allocate more funds, future resources to Ukraine? Why does USA congress wrap themselves in this foreign nations glad (along with the MEPalustine) baloney? It’s insane optics and policy….
“Flag”, not glad… sigh in auto correct
..think about this…they are not even in the NATO/EU…W and we already directly or not sent there $ hundreds of millions….
CONgress gets a vote.
CONgress also holds sole power to declare war. Make them own it.
My hypothesis is that PDJT wants to get through the midterms without the MSM and democrats having something to complain, fear monger, and campaign on. Right now, they have very little for Outrage Bait.
Why give them real meat when they can talk about Caitlyn the Media Talking Head and Dylan “I’m a woman now” Mulvaney and whether or not having PDJT say that Caitlyn looks like a cross-dressing man and is that really an insult.
Nor will their Asian and Arab influx populations.
In a race to the bottom, gravity wins. They are all going down.
Thank God we have a president that is the President of Realville (Bless Rush Limbaugh) and will not pretend this is all unicorns and rainbows and will be the one that smacks down the Eu globalists.
This will be the final nail in the coffin for the SWIFT system. Sayonara.
Another good point the average Western citizen has no comprehension of.
Weaponizing the Western financial system through the SWIFT blockade, seizing the Russian SWF, refusing to insure shipping, etc has completely destroyed any trust and confidence in the entire Western financial system.
Why would anyone entrust their money to someone who, at any moment, say that money now belongs to them?
The answer to that question is why the movements towards compacts such as BRICs and a non-petrodollar have only accelerated.
spot on, and why the petro dollar is on its way out, too.
as a citizen of the former republic of the US, i have very little choice otherwise.
but if you’re an independent nation, and you watch how even western “allies” are treated and forced to participate in wars or policy they do not want, why would you take those dollars any more?
Why does Vlad put up with this nonsense
The script kiddies in Uke liaison operations just need to “as reads ‘incoming missile’ replace with ‘incoming drone’ for the attack type. Simulation for the visitor; we’ve literally seen these on TV.
So, this war seems to have much to do with powers that be getting and seizing money from Russia and not wanting to, or should I say are unable to, pay it back.
So now they are taking the billions in seized sovereign funds from Russia and saying they will spend those billions on building drones and missiles in the UK.
How convenient. If they just pretend to build missiles and pretend to blow them up who would know the difference?
Hey, we can’t pay your billions back cause it’s your fault you made us bomb you.
It seems obvious they already spent the seized Russian funds a d these loans and can’t pay it back. They thought they were clever snd would start a war and hide it with loan forgiveness
in a peace deal but the Russians fought back and the Americans did not play along.
Let’s hope this whole missile project is just a way for the EU to hide the missing billions so they can stop the war. Any chance of that?
in what parallel universe does the EU-UKR alliance think they can defeat Russia?
this is beyond delusional, past insane, demonstrates a complete break with reality.
to answer this fantasy, here’s my version:
everybody gets their wish and the US enters the conflict directly.
PVP is advised in advance of the plan.
but, surprise!, we bomb the UKR Nazis into oblivion, and take the whole of UKR.
Russia can do the ground clean up.
after which we enter into negotiations with what’s left of UKR, and Russia gets all the disputed territory.
we supervise the remnants of UKR until a non-mentally ill government is formed,
then we’re out.
ante up, ursula.
Bombing “nazi” Ukrainians to “oblivion” and “exterminating” the population brings ugly into this Treehouse. I’d skip lengthy doses of Scripture posted here occasionally, but they can’t hurt.
War means death. That’s life.
This isn’t a sports match.
Medvedev serves up reliable bear growls, Karaganov makes nuke noise: That’s satisfying; that’s all.
The vast majority of Russians don’t talk that way or think like that. Even though tempers are rising, most do not indulge in such dehumanizing language. If they do, someone calls them out – and gets “likes”.
My husband was an officer in the Russian army. Born and raised in Soviet Ukraine. One of his sons remained in the Ukraine, refused our pleas to let us evacuate his wife and baby grandson. He worked on munitions development like his Dad. He was killed when his institute was bombed.
We are not Orthodox Christians, but my Russki goes to the local church here to exchange news with the community. Every family has been affected. Real people, real lives.
Loomer glows like the sun.
She is so obnoxious . I am saddened that PDJT gives her support by posting her interview with Z on his TS feed.
We were warned to stay out of Europe early on in our founding.. WWIII or not we must drop the NATO mask and focus on our own country’s problems.. This country is not a the Glowbull police force or the Glowbull money tree and I’m tired of being treated like as such..
It is Bazaar to me that you missspelle Global/lol
First time I have heard the term “inverted fascism”. Very interesting way of describing it. In the 1920s and early 1930s when Mussolini was a media darling and he often sat for interviews with them (this is back when Stalin’s Comintern still categorized his Italian Fascist party as left-wing), he often described fascism as “corporatism”. The opposite of corporatism is called a corporatocracy, but I think inverted fascism is better and probably more accurate.
What are the Russian’s ultimate goals with the war?
stop NATO expansion
stop persecution of native russians in ukraine
denazify
demilitarize
All stated very clearly by Putin at the beginning.
The primary Russian war goal is to remain a Russian people.
Globalists want to break Russia into seven smaller countries and absorb each into the Hive Complex.
A neo-Nazi dictatorship acting as front for a globalist oligarchy entrenched in the most important nation on its border threatens the existence of Russian civilization.
These NATO governments are basically communist and looking for total control and wealth. We should abandon them as they need and want us dragged in as does many in our own government.
A big issue is that the everyday day person in the United States is still “programmed” to believe Russia is the enemy of all. This will be the voice calling to save NATO and Europe when it all hits the fan. That we must defeat the big bad communist Russia at all costs crowd will be plastered all over the USA loud and clear.
The ironic thing is by doing this we will be saving the real communists and defeating our freedoms which is what they want and many in our government want as well. Are there enough think for themselves people to see who the bad guys really are ? That is the question.
And if we save Europe , what are we saving. Third world countries that have been taken over and raped by religious zealots. So many more need to open their eyes.
Get us the hell out of Europe!
What the heck is up with Laura Loomer? Like Tucker before her, has she short circuited, too? BTW, is she taking a GLP-1?
Laura Schumer supporting the nazi now … oh, um, sure!
She was always grifter and comes from the Milo Yiannapolis school of using social media outrage-baiting.
She did try to pivot towards being a more serious journalist for a bit but it is always an act with these types.
What if putin dissolves his ruble replacing it with a new “happier” bill He explains it thus. The dastardly euros are counterfeiting . In addition they will be using the rubles stolen from us to fund their war in Ukraine . We simply can not allow that. 20 days to turn your money into new conterfeit proof currency any bank or postal facillity. Including any sovereign debt or transfers.
However sovereign debt held by biligerant states will be delayed to be considered at the appropriate time. To our people friends and allies have no WORRIES Russia stands tall and proud and will not tolerate our money being used to fund the foolish war of the European Nazis
I said it way back then and I’ll say it again. Russia, China and India were never just going to hand over their sovereignty to Bill Gates and the other globalist morons. It was always a pipe dream.
Trump and Putin didn’t play the game as expected. The music stopped and the money has run out. The rats can no longer hide.
I feel hopeful we are looking at the last gasps of the EU parasitic system.
You always start from the premise that the Russian position, whatever it may be, is the reasonable one. Not sure that is actually the case
Loomer is a looney! Trump needs to stop his conversations with her. She is unstable.
Putin is going to get tired of this BS, and when he does, it’s not going to be pretty for Z or Ukraine.
Bottom line, the war pigs want to keep feeding at the trough while the bodies pile up.
Ozzie (Black Sabbath) was right many years ago.
Z seems to be making a lot of enemies.
Do I need to say more?
Follow the money always.
All of this, every single peso, began when Soetero/CIA, interfered in Ukraine politics and took down an honest man.
TPTB are likely just hoping they can wait out the term of PDJT.
This is one reason the upcoming midterm elections are conducted with minimal fraud taking place. I say “minimal” because it can never be totally eradicated.
IMHO one of the weak points of our constitutional system is that the POTUS is limited to no more than two terms. Yes, it can be a good thing at times, but when a country is in need of a leader like PDJT it is not a good thing.
Couple the above opinion with a fraudulent election system and it is a recipe for disaster.
Trump 2028!
Fourth term!
always bet on war and inflation. never bet on peace and stable currency.
Get rid of debt.
The ash will fertilize what is to grow.
These people are ready to finance World War III because none of them remember … what Russia will never allow its citizens to forget. To them, “War” is a business enterprise that will never touch their sons and daughters. Everything will stay nice and contained and profitable: the Hellfires will never explode out of control.
Except this is never how “World War” actually happens.
When we hear “Z” saying the things that he does, and acting in the ways that he does, even though he is not the legitimate President anymore, we plainly see Europe planning a global war – initially, “by proxy.” What none of them remember, once again, is what Russia will never forget.
History reminds us that Russia paid by far the greatest price in blood during the “Great Patriotic War.” The “Ghost Regiment” marches every year in memory of this, and even Putin carries a black-and-white photograph. Russia will never forget. And will never surrender or be conquered.
As for Europe: “They know not what they do.” If you asked a British schoolboy what “Blitzkreig” means, would they know? (Their late Queen certainly did …)
Russia continues to act with restraint because Russia remembers. But everything might come to an end. Do not confuse restraint with weakness, or lack of resolve. Do not poke the Bear.
Mike, TY for those wise words.
So, the UK/EU aggressors are doing everything they can to get Russia to attack London, having moved their center of gravity to Canada during the past year. Or, perhaps, to create the groundwork for a false flag that can be blamed on Russia and trigger a declaration of war by the globalists.
It looks like they will stop at nothing, not even a nuclear exchange, in their quest for war and control. I hope Trump, Putin, and Xi have a plan.
Questions 67 and 68
Who inspired Zelensky to attack an Iranian flagged ship in the Caspian Sea. Iran is supplying armaments to the Ruskies. Was the attack intended to incite the Russians to attack a Nato country supplying arms to the Ukrainians. There are strange things done neath the midnight sun by the men who moil for gold. But world war three isn’t possible is it?
Iranians are greatly p*ss off what Z done..ship is gone they killed one and badly injured other person ..Russian policy since days of WW2.. is not to kill enemies leaders …( they could kill at least on 2 occassion Adolf)…Iranians do not have this policy…..
occasion…
His name was smedley butler……
Major General Smedley Butler, USMC, to be exact. Thirty-four years of honorable service. Extremely highly decorated for valor in combat. Won the Medal of Honor twice. He went around teaching, “War Is A Racket.” And he damned well knew what he was talking about.
Smedley Butler and crop of USMC Leaders, who came to prominence in WWII, made allot of money and also gained invaluable Combat Experience as “employees” in the War Racket prior to WWII … seconded from the USMC to take commands in Caribbean, Mexican and Central American National forces and constabularies … financed by Major US Companies and Banks with operations in those nations. USMC close Air Support concept were also developed during execution these contracts as well.
Major General Butler was a great soldier and leader but make no mistake Smedley Butler profited from the Racket .. he was an advocate not against it.
what about the billions we gave them?
Remember who, how, and why the Ukraine war began.
NATO is a relic and besides, peace is the enemy of evil.
There is zero pragmatism in President Trump’s position as long as he allows a single US dollar, sold through EU weapon system as well as single US Military and Intel Community Asset to be supporting the Ukraine War effort. can’t have it both ways.
Cut 100% of the ties and make the entire enterprise supporting the Ukraine an EU effort ONLY … with NO NATO strings (Article 5) included. Declare the US does NOT see the Ukraine conflict to be covered under the NATO charter. That essentially pulls the US out of NATO, then continue to evaluate forward deployment requirements.
This also includes barring the UK and US Contractors in Portsmouth, UK to touch a single think Ukrainian inside those repurposed Factories Z-Man is offering to re-open in the UK. If Russia decides to do something to an EU location aiding the Ukraine that is an EU Problem … just like the EU seizing Russian assets world wide … assets and money.
By the way this includes either US Sanctions on BOTH Belligerents (Ukraine and Russia) or NO US Sanctions on either.
Only after all this … does a pragmatic position exist.
Time to stop ALL the pretending President Trump.
Further, if the Ukraine jumps into the Iran Conflict mess … take the off ramp and tell the EU they are on their own with respect to the Hormuz, as China Inc. and other BRICS members will get their oil somehow (Russia and even paying the tolls) … work with the GCC to set up the pipelines and defend their territory.
The Major UK Defense Contractors in Portsmouth, UK have US subsidiaries and major US Contracts. There is legal, financial and licensing leverage available to ensure the door is firmly closed to keep US Technology and Money OUT of Ukrainian Hands.
Also, make it clear the US will VETO any NATO membership applications from the Ukraine.
Exactly
Post of the day.
“The truth has no agenda” I often hear people say.
I still wonder how the UK plans to manufacture any armaments using green energy.
drones are arguably the easiest thing to produce of the “armaments” category, and this is part of why they are such a gamechanger.
Correct if DRONES assembly is the only issue, which it is not.
The hardest part is producing the components and design effort to integrate components into a DRONE System. The Ukraine seems to have lost the ability to manufacture the component parts … it is the component part manufacturing as well as DRONE assembly point that Russia has been successfully hitting. The UK will be more component manufacturing area than an assembly point.
This is the primary reason Iran can keep up their attacks … no matter how weak from 3-different directions … Iran, Yemen and Ethiopia. Assembly Points can be mobile as well as fixed heavily protected points … as long as the flow of DRONE Components for assembly from China Inc. and Afghanistan … there will be drones available.
President Trump was left high and dry by the international community willing to “live with” Iran being a dangerous force enabling international chaos … its not only the oil which is the issue. Iran is essentially the willing key proxy hub for chaos … employed by the Global Financial Masters as needed to enforce their desires. The international community and even the US Political and News Media made allot of declarations about the need to suppress the Iranian Hub of Evil … and the President likely risked they would get involved if he lead the way … he was left high and dry by a posturing bunch of collaborators, trying to work his way to an off-ramp.
That’s until they relinquish that over-used title to another new weapon on the block, a process which is already happening due to their over exposure, and user’s over-reliance. As strike platforms they are simply substitutes for existing systems that perform their role for more effectively, but cost more.
When this inevitable day occurs, the countries who have heavily invested in such systems as the perfect weapon that seemingly can break traditional models of military production will learn there is a price for such hubris.
This is one of the best sites for any war related weaponry.
https://www.twz.com/?s=anti+drone
I’ve never figured out is there was ever a legitimate reason for the rest of the world to get involved in what seems to be a border dispute between Russia and Ukraine.
Prior to WWII, there were armed conflicts between Socialist-Fascists (NAZIS) from Germany and Communist-Fascist USSR in Baltic States. The Political Militias of the Baltic States were divided as well … two sets of totalitarian (fascist) bent political movements hiding behind the vernier of rival Socialist-Communist Movements for control of the Balkans in 1920-30’s.
The Germans (ex-German Army Units) participating in the fighting in the Balkans as well as inside Germany, between the factions, were called the Freikorps.
Today … “the NATO volunteers” fighting in the Ukraine (holding the front together) are today’s version of the Freikorps.
The interesting point in history came in 1936, when Hitler created a treaty with the USSR … selling out the Baltic States in preparation for the July 1941 Invasion of Russia.
The EU is following this game plan.
In German History the Emperor Charlemagne is sometimes referred to as the 1st Reich. Charlemagne essentially ruled over an Empire that looks like today’s EU, with France and Germany at its core.
Interesting! Nice to understand history….puts the present in context. Thank you!
When I was a kid we used to say “Never Again” as we learned about the unfathomable evil of the Holocaust and the Nazis who perpetrated that crime against humanity.
If you had told me then that the leaders of Western Civilization-including a bunch of American UniParty politicians-would openly support a corrupt regime led by Nazis in the 21st Century, I would not have believed it.
Matthew 6: 9-13
“In this manner, therefore, pray:
Our Father in heaven,
Hallowed be Your name.
Your kingdom come.
Your will be done
On earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our debts,
As we forgive our debtors.
And do not lead us into temptation,
But deliver us from the evil one.
For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever.
Amen.”
Russia has a very long memory. The ill advised theft of Russian sovereign funds by the EU will affect their own sovereign bond rates in the end. The EU is no longer to be trusted in any capacity and, unfortunately, for the west this is one more nail in its coffin. Frankly, their geopolitical decisions are astonishing. The march of folly.
Read the article again. The EU has NO Money nor serious assets to have anything approaching viable bonds. They are using Russian National as well as Sanctioned private Cash assets (funds). Their own EU bonds are already crap.
It was not long ago that major EU members and the EU itself were using NEGATIVE Interest Rate Bonds to stay afloat. The national banks of Greece, Italy, Portugal and others were in DEFAULT being bailed out by the UK, Germany and France. [Beside Immigrants benefit shopping across the EU before settling in the UK, the bailouts of these financially failed socialist governments was also part of the reason for BREXIT.]
Ukraine is a funding the EU using stolen money from russia.
What would happen if the munchkin became dust in the wind?
What would happen if nukes came into play?
$300 billion can keep the munchkin going for a long time if he lives that long.
notably, Zelensky is in the congregation at the Lindsey Graham memorial event today along with the President and Vice President and many many others
geez, right now as I watch live TV coverage, he’s standing directly behind President Trump, 1 row back
geez
You have it backwards.
The EU and Canada are using Russian National and Sanctioned Private assets to Finance the Ukraine.
This will be a major source of money to capitalize the pending Canada-Ukraine Bank run by Canadian PM.
The Ukraine does not have access to the assets as they are sequestered in EU and US Banks. The EU banks fold up like a house of cards if Russia ever gains any control to move those assets back under Russian Control.
Any chance Iran will respond to Ukrainian attacks by striking a Ukrainian factory in UK?
Does this mean we American taxpayers no longer pay for the Ukraine war? The EU is now paying with money stolen from Russia?
Well, good
Quick question name month and year last time America won a war. April 1945 is not the answer. Russian won that victory While America jumped in for the last months
Let’s get in a time machine and go back to Dec 8, 1941:
The U.S. had just entered the war following the Japanese attack at Pearl Harbor. Stalin’s back was to the wall following the German invasion in summer, 1941.
It took nearly four years of hard fighting in two different hemispheres before it was finally over.
WE supplied the SU with hundreds of millions of dollars worth of military materiel.
A few months, indeed…
You need to educate yourself.
If the EU doesn’t have enough of their own Euros to finance Ukraine’s war against Russia, where will they find the Euro’s to finance their own war against Russia, in he long run?
Does anyone else recall the Bank of New York prosecutions from the late 1990’s? Peter Berlin and Lucy Edwards? Benex? Marc Rich? Glencore? The plea admission to helping hundreds of former USSR bankers to illegally come into the US? Money laundering?
There was a WSJ reporter working with our deep state ‘looking into’ such things, a guy named Glenn Simpson. He was interested in, among others, a guy named Paul Manafort. Manafort had a lot of interesting connections, including working with a guy named Rinat Ahkmatov that was of only marginal interest to Simpson.
Hunter Biden was counsel later for a Chinese firm working to purchase part of a Russian oil business from Glencore. Same Glencore as mentioned above. The Russian business was Rosneft, oddly and incorrectly mentioned in the Steele ‘dossier’ as trying to deal with Carter Page when actually dealing with Hunter Biden. They investigated Carter Page, hiding Hunter Biden in web searches and from legitimate scrutiny.
Laura Loomee, another clown bought and paid for Clowns in America. We are surrounded by parasites.