Following three days of negotiations in Florida (Thur, Fri, Sat) between President Trump emissaries Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner, and Ukraine emissaries Rustem Umierov and Andrii Hnatov, the group then held a 2-hour phone call with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
No substantial progress was reported. However, military officials Umierov and Hnatov then flew to meet Zelenskyy in London where French President Emmanuel Macron, British Prime Minister Keir Starmer and German Chancellor Friedrich Merz are assembled to discuss alternatives to ending the conflict.
Starmer, Macron and Merz form the core of the “coalition of the willing,” an EU group who have unilaterally proclaimed they were willing to send the military of the U.K, France and Germany into Ukraine so long as President Trump would backstop their troops with promises of U.S. intervention if things went badly. Trump would not make that commitment.
Zelenskyy Inc, Macron, Starmer and Merz do not want to end the proxy fight against Russia. Together with the EU leadership of NATO, the coalition of the willing want to retain the conflict. However, the problem for the four leaders is that without strong USA support, the citizens of their EU countries will rise up against them.
Even with NATO missiles and transferred technological assistance, they ultimately need the American military in order to ensure Putin doesn’t squish them. President Trump wants the proxy war to end – loggerheads are reached.
Russian President Vladimir Putin does not seem to be paying too much attention to the bureaucratic speeches and instead is continuing forward advancement [SEE HERE] to secure the territory in Ukraine with or without a negotiated settlement.
The Russian Federation has presented its terms; the Russian terms for cessation are known; the rest is up to the EU, NATO, USA and Ukraine to work out.
At this point the problem is over-talking and FUBAR, or, well, a typically European situation. So, Putin keeps going, more Ukraine troops are killed, while Putin awaits the endless conversations that he predicted would result in more endless conversations. To be fair, Putin’s cold approach appears to be a mostly accurate interpretation of what he expected.
ZELENSKYY – “In recent days, representatives of Ukraine held substantive discussions with envoys of the US President – and now National Security and Defence Council Secretary Rustem Umierov and Chief of the General Staff Andrii Hnatov are en route to Europe. I expect detailed information from them on everything that was said to the American envoys in Moscow, and on the nuances the Americans are prepared to modify in negotiations with us and with the Russians.” (link)
By my count in the past two weeks, Witkoff and Kushner have spent nine days in direct all-day negotiations with various Ukraine officials from various institutions of Zelenskyy’s government, with a one-day trip to Moscow sandwiched between them. Yet, western media continually proclaim the U.S. delegation of Kushner and Witkoff are ignoring the Ukrainians.
This is what I call the ‘paralysis of analysis’, or the part of every negotiation where things get so granular in detail that the larger objective is lost.
While the Ukraine team argues about whether a creek or a railroad track should determine the current point of conflict, another 250 Ukrainian soldiers have their limbs torn from their bodies and lie dead in the mud. Today they will meet in London to argue over telephone pole ownership, while another battalion is fed to the meat grinder.
CNN frames a narrative that President Trump is unsympathetic and frustrated with Zelenskyy:
(VIA CNN) – […] Trump criticized Zelensky on Sunday after talks between US and Ukrainian negotiators over the weekend in Miami ended with unresolved questions over security guarantees, territorial issues and continued concern that the US proposal tilts in Russia’s favor.
“We’ve been speaking to [Russian] President [Vladimir] Putin and we’ve been speaking to Ukrainian leaders, including… President Zelensky, and I have to say that I’m a little bit disappointed that President Zelensky hasn’t yet read the proposal, that was as of a few hours ago,” Trump said. (more)
President Trump is reviewing the issue through the prism of “hours” because he knows that as each hour passes that’s more dead young men…. And FOR WHAT?
Meanwhile, Volodymyr Zelenskyy is traveling around Europe stopping for tea and crumpets with Macron, Starmer and Merz in London today. Think about the upside-down priorities here.
Bread and Circuses – With Servants Patiently Waiting (Dec 6, 2025)
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[If you think I’m not being fair to Ukraine, just go scroll Zelenskyy’s Twitter feed]
The only way this gets ended is regime change in Ukraine—period. The current government, as we have seen in countless examples, is demonstrably corrupt to the core. There is no negotiating with it (or its supporters) when the goal that matters is feeding the never-ending gravy train laundromat, not stopping the bloodshed. Either the Russians will force it when there’s no military resistance left to protect Kyiv (when it gets real for Zelenskyy and Co) or the people along with what’s left of their military will rise up in bloody revolution and install new leadership not beholden to the blood money merchants in the EU and US Congress. That’s the end game and I think President Trump knows it. Putin certainly does.
CONSTITUTION OF UKRAINE
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Article 2
The sovereignty of Ukraine extends throughout its entire territory.
Ukraine is a unitary state.
The territory of Ukraine within its present border is indivisible and inviolable.
Article 9
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The conclusion of international treaties that contravene the Constitution of Ukraine is possible only after introducing relevant amendments to the Constitution of Ukraine.
Article 17
To protect the sovereignty and territorial indivisibility of Ukraine, and to ensure its economic and informational security are the most important functions of the State and a matter of concern for all the Ukrainian people.
The defence of Ukraine, the protection of its sovereignty, territorial indivisibility and inviolability, are entrusted to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
Ensuring state security and protecting the state border of Ukraine are entrusted to the respective military units and law enforcement bodies of the State, organisation and operational procedure of which are determined by law.
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The location of foreign military bases shall not be permitted on the territory of Ukraine.
Article 65
Defence of the Motherland, of the independence and territorial indivisibility of Ukraine, and respect for its state symbols, are the duties of citizens of Ukraine.
Citizens do military service in accordance with the law.
Article 73
Altering the territory of Ukraine is resolved exclusively by an All-Ukrainian referendum.
Article 102
The President of Ukraine is the Head of State and acts in its name.
The President of Ukraine is the guarantor of state sovereignty and territorial indivisibility of Ukraine, the observance of the Constitution of Ukraine and human and citizen’s rights and freedoms.
Article 132
The territorial structure of Ukraine is based on the principles of unity and indivisibility of the state territory, the combination of centralisation and decentralisation in the exercise of state power, and the balanced social and economic development of regions with account of their historical, economic, ecological, geographical and demographic characteristics, and ethnic and cultural traditions.
Article 133
The system of the administrative and territorial structure of Ukraine is composed of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, oblasts, districts, cities, city districts, settlements and villages.
Ukraine is composed of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, Vinnytsia Oblast, Volyn Oblast, Dnipropetrovsk Oblast, Donetsk Oblast, Zhytomyr Oblast, Zakarpattia Oblast, Zaporizhia Oblast, Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast, Kyiv Oblast, Kirovohrad Oblast, Luhansk Oblast, Lviv Oblast, Mykolayiv Oblast, Odesa Oblast, Poltava Oblast, Rivne Oblast, Sumy Oblast, Ternopil Oblast, Kharkiv Oblast, Kherson Oblast, Khmelnytskyi Oblast, Cherkasy Oblast, Chernivtsi Oblast and Chernihiv Oblast, and the Cities of Kyiv and Sevastopol.
The Cities of Kyiv and Sevastopol have special status which is determined by the laws of Ukraine.
Article 134
The Autonomous Republic of Crimea is an inseparable constituent part of Ukraine and decides on the issues ascribed to its authority within the limits of authority determined by the Constitution of Ukraine.
Article 157
The Constitution of Ukraine shall not be amended, if the amendments foresee the abolition or restriction of human and citizen’s rights and freedoms, or if they are oriented toward the liquidation of the independence or violation of the territorial indivisibility of Ukraine.
The Constitution of Ukraine shall not be amended in conditions of martial law or a state of emergency.
https://ccu.gov.ua/sites/default/files/constitution_2019_eng.pdf
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Demonic forces seek to destroy Orthodox Christian Ukraine.
Yes, and Z ousted them from their monasteries and stole what he could and closed their churches.
It is beyond time to bring the US negotiators home and wash our hands of this. No more money, weapons or guarantees of any time. Let Europe takeover and take care of them. US should be out. Personally, I am over it. American First !
(((Starmer, Macron and Merz form the core of the “coalition of the willing,” an EU group who have unilaterally proclaimed they were willing to send the military of the U.K, France and Germany into Ukraine so long as President Trump would backstop their troops with promises of U.S. intervention if things went badly. Trump would not make that commitment.)))
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Sadly, I think it’s realistic to assume that had we agreed to serve as “the insurance policy” (their lexicon) in such a situation, you can almost guarantee that their would have been an event meant to entice US boots on the ground. And, I don’t think that “event” would have been initiated by Russia.
It seems simple. The EU is desperate for the US to have direct involvement in Ukraine militarily, because the second that happens, the US checking account opens up, and we know which three EU leaders will be first in line with their hands out.
All that being said, Trump didn’t fall for the orchestrated trap. In fact, he responded by removing the EU from the Peace Process entirely. And, now they are attempting pry back open the door. Not all EU leaders are on board with this nonsense. I think Meloni, for one, is dismayed over what the EU as a whole is trying to do.
“coalition of the killing”
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As long as the EU is pushing for war, Zelensky will NOT make peace.
Thats a given.
Pres Trump should now say that unless he and the EU make peace, the US will withdraw totally from NATO. Never mind pulling funds from NATO.
WITHDRAW.
All four of those don’t amount to an indecent degenerate. Sickening!
“French President Emmanuel Macron, British Prime Minister Keir Starmer and German Chancellor Friedrich Merz are assembled to discuss alternatives to ending the conflict.”
The alternative to ending something is to continue it. They presumably made assurances of $$$$$ and bodies because Z trotted out the old line about how his constitution prohibits him from surrendering any land (aka no peace, thxkbye).
“as each hour passes that’s more dead young men…. And FOR WHAT?”
Really? Every dead European who is capable of holding a rifle is one less to resist the replacement. What do you mean “for what?” They’ve stated the goal of depopulation and destabilization; do we not believe them or something?
Pokrovsk is gone, Mirnograd is completely surrounded as the noose tightens.
Seversk has essentially been lost, & Liman defenses may have to be vacated.
Kupyansk hangs by a thread, & the Guliapole & Konstanivka battles now begin.
Show me 1 place where the Ukrainian forces are succeeding in the last 3 months, or even the last year.
Zelenskyy needs more cannon fodder.
Time for the Z-man to join the wife & kids in London. Or…
A great deal of time and effort is being spent pretending that anyone else matters besides Putin and the CIA. The idea that Zelenskyy is anything but a CIA puppet is silly. He doesn’t matter at all, because Ukraine doesn’t matter at all. Ukraine collapses within days of the withdrawal of American aid. Days.
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Trump is pushing Ukraine elections now. We knew this was coming.
Elections? Yikes! Look at the extremes to which Trump will descend to wreck Democracy in Ukraine! He is out of control because the walls are closing in.
Serious negotiations begin when the ghost fleet is sunk