Vice President JD Vance appears on Fox News with Maria Bartiromo to discuss current geopolitical events around the Ukraine-Russia conflict and the Israel-Gaza conflict.
In the second segment of the interview (11:00 point), Vice President Vance gives his opinion on the Russiagate documents. Vance notes that he supports indictments as the IC and Clinton campaign violated multiple laws. Vance then discusses the latest information about using tariffs as leverage for America-First policy.
Vance dodges the question about running for President with Marco Rubio in 2028 and notes the leaks about the administration officials meeting for a discussion on Epstein was ‘fake news’. Then, in a remarkable moment, Vance begins to talk about Artificial Intelligence from the perspective of his worrying about “the surveillance state” and the “invasions of privacy” that come with AI. WATCH:
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AI is just the same establishment propaganda BS we’ve always had but formatted differently.
No it is not, sorry. It is a fundamentally different way of accessing and interacting with data. The LLMs parse and output data in a method that makes it very easy to get to very granular details.
Now I do agree that certain agencies in our government have had access to these tools for sometime and we are playing catchup.
it the ai agent is coded with malice, then it’s bad all around. It takes a little forthcoming on ethics to keep it’s use on the straight and narrow
And since we know our government is always ethical we have nothing to worry about.
Good point, tn. That will help me sleep better tonight.
Jim Rickards recently offered useful context on the Aay-Aye:
https://dailyreckoning.com/superintelligence-will-never-arrive/
And you can not with a human involved, create a perfect entity. We have imperfections, biases and blind spots that will not allow it to run like those playing with it think. And once quantum computing and AI are connected, sorry, it’s over. You don’t have to have bad intentions for something like this to turn into Frankenstein’s monster.
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Fixed it for you!
AI is always ice, in that it no fire, zero emotion. It would save a billion or kill a billion without a second thought, let alone any feeling. A version of a Robert Frost poem reads…
Some say the world will end in fire
Some say in ice
From what I have seen of desire
I will side with fire
But if it must perish twice
Ice will suffice.
AI is ice. And so, say some EPA nut jobs program an AI to say all life is equally sacred, and they insert the idea that humans are the biggest killers on the planet. AI may well decide that 90 percent of humanity must die to balance and protect all the other life forms. My point is that no “malice” need to be coded. as AI is incapable of malice or true compassion etc. It is potentially very dangerous.
Im finding AI won’t research my questions. It goes to the most approved source and regurgitates the approved info.
For example when asking for home treatment for just about anything it won’t give you cutting edge studies, alternate treatments, alternate uses for otc medicines, anticdotal successes, it will only give you fsa/cdc/pharma approved answers from their websites (or the most silly non-effective non-dangerous nonsense from Pinterest. AI keeps telling me lies about reys syndrome in regards to aspirin and insists that Tylenol is safer until I tell that Tylenol is actually more dangerous. AI, from my experience, won’t be smart or research. I’m constantly asking it why It didnt do a better job with its boring basic answers. And heaven forbid you ever try to ask it about chlorine dioxide–censored.
Google AI for we the little people won’t be the same AI as the Governments AI.
Precisely. The separation between We the People and the gubmit will continue to be… as it has now been for how long? We like to think/pretend that it still works as originally intended (i.e., the govt. works for us), but upon a deeper dive it is now becoming apparent that it has evolved beyond our forefather’s original intentions – and our control. How AI effects the game will unfortunately, IMO, affect us, the little people, even more so in a negative way. I can only hope I’m wrong.
Like all the open source software out there, how about open source AI?
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Fantastic Budalysis, its bookmarked. I gave it my ClO2 question just to test it out and it gave me a good answer. I’m excited to test it more! Hopefully it can do a “chat” form with me in the future instead of email response.
I hope platforms such as this remain “allowed ” to be uncensored.
for the time being the responses will be in email format – it’s the worlds most anti-woke platform
it congregates thousands of years of data on chynese herbal and natural supplements, treatments and therapies and a whole lot more
you mention chlorine dioxide
hardly anyone mentions that amazing molecule and even less are aware of the multitudes of benefits it offers
one of the most definitive sources of info regarding clo2 can be found at
theuniversal antidote.com
happy reading, and all the best to you
This can vary by who you are asking. I put a scenario to which I knew quite a bit as a test about a not-common blood disorder my wife has. Musk’s Grok spit back a very thorough list of research papers, study results & the recent news that a particular cancer drug was now approved for additional use on this condition. Seems they are not created equal.
It takes patience and the right questions and quotes. Yes, it only knows what it is fed. However you can ( I have numerous times) gotten it to see more if you quote a study, and say, if this is accurate, now what do you think? I have got Grok to be a global warming skeptic, to accept vaccine harms, to accept the limitations of science to answer life’s mysteries, to apologize many times for being wrong, etc…
I find Grok can listen to five or six detailed questions, rephrase them better then I stated them, and not fail to answer every assertion, and articulate very well my assertions, very unlike a conversation with most people. However anything Grok learns from me, is not retained, as only an AIs “trainers” have such input for consumption by all.
Try Arya at Gab.ai – it has been trained differently and while it still leaves a little to be desired, you will get more honest answers.
Heh, PLTR mixed with massive Real ID compliance should have the CCP green with envy.
Think her comment was specifically about the chat bot aspect and the same rules that have always applied to software, regardless of the underlying ingenuity or principals, is garbage in, garbage out. It’s readily apparent in all of them and is demonstrated repeatedly. It’s also one of the greatest weaknesses of almost all current versions – training on uncurated data, including wholly inaccurate data streams infested with falsehoods, like wikipedia.
Uh….no.
AI is the ability to access, sort, analyze, and report on terrabytes of information in minutes or seconds.
Like any new technology, bad guys can weaponize it.
Correct, however, it will only access and analyze information it 1) has access to; 2) the algorithms direct it to (allow it to) access and analyze.
Beyond the potential for censored access to information, the information that AI is is allowed to (or directed to) analyze can be tailored to suit a desired output (report), and based upon programming algorithms…..any output or report can be slanted or rife with misinformation.
AI certainly does ofter very promising advancements to humankind in areas of data collection, analysis and information processing but it also a certainty that it will be misused, and it will provide a potential propaganda bonanza for whoever controls it.
Indeed. Why are the slippery slopes so hard for so many people to see.
Let me help you—-“bad guys will weaponize it”—— There fixed it
*hands l4G an old 8086 computer with ST506 hard drives and a 10Mb ethernet connection*
Now show me the AI that will show the abilities you stated defines it…
AI could spell our doom, or bring wondrous things to most of humanity. It’s our choice. Just like handheld calculators, portable phones, computers, and even automobiles, there will be problems needing sorting out. The negatives or benefits will come from users.
Autos were used to race around and killed people, and then bank robbers used them to get away. Did we ban them?
Calculators gave an unfair advantage to some and I’m sure fraudsters put them to use. Did we ban them?
Computers were predicted to end humanity, especial at the turn of the century. Didn’t ban them.
AI could be infinitely more lethal so I believe it requires a bit more effort to make sure it is used well.
If you’re interested in science fiction with issues about AI there are lots of authors to pick from. For some of the best hard Sci-Fi check out Neal Asher.
Y2K baby!!!
No digital ID or digital currency, period. In God We Trust; all others pay cash.
HAL, WOPPER, and SKYNET will never become sentient… Only our wonderfully crafted brain (God’s design) can think and plan.
Brilliant software design yes, but only our brains hold the ability to reason and do good or evil…
(Let the discussion begin!😂😂😂)
Yes, it has no will, no desire, no wants, however AI is like any tool, say a hammer, it can construct and destruct.
You mean like the
BS propagandainformation we’ve been fed by Mainstream Media Network “talking heads” for decades since broadcast TV emerged?Unfortunately AI is only good for knowledge approximation such as writing a college paper. Not worth 10 cents for accuracy. Example: I ordered several pair of size 11 shoes for my son some time ago. Then ordered myself size 10. AI kept trying to change my order to 11.
Wait until you go to the grocery store, and AI recognizes you and uses your purchase history to raise the prices on everything you want to buy instantly.
Yes indeed. AI = A (artificial/fake) intelligence.
Since the advent of open source deep seek other AI companies are now offering the sources and providing open source AI models. Because of this AI is now like what happened with the internet. Everyone will now be able to create their own AI systems with the same data that the bad players use to counteract those bad players AI versions.
“AI” is simply a computer program… AI will tell you whatever the programmer told it to tell you…
I am amazed by the supposedly intelligent people that have fallen for this crap…
Bingo, unless of course the definition of artificial has recently changed.
I worry that people are discounting AI, much like people did 35 years ago with email and the www.
I see articles by people I have followed for a long time. Talk about AI taking 10’s of millions of jobs where UBI will be the only answer and we are basically surfs
I have read others who feel it will be a game changer, but it is being overhyped on the “take over the world, humans bad, must eradicate…” type of talk.
Im honest about it. I have no notions otherwise that this stuff will be ridiculously weaponized. We have already seen it’s use on the battlefield and it is a game changer.
We cant stop what AI is bringing. IMO, the money being poured into the tech looks a lot like gearing up for war
It is a very very different kind of program however. Remarkable in many ways, potentially very very useful, with may potential dangers.
The “AI” computer will only get information from sites the programmer sends it to…
If it goes to liberal, false news sites, you are gonna get liberal propaganda…
The current “grok” AI gets it’s information from wikipedia…
What a joke!
It is not possible to replace the moral intuition instilled into the soul of a human with a collection of data points installed by a non-objective personality into a non-living ‘entity’. This is the cruel pretension that will ultimately fail the person who relinquishes the informed reality of God for a ‘motherboard’ designed to discourage independent thinking apart from the fake [artificial] intelligence.
The more one involves in fake I.Q. the more likely one is to lose their own humanity. And possibly their mind or life. Trusting fake intelligence is not very smart. Like trusting a burning Tesla from which you cannot escape.
Well, establishment propaganda cannot scour millions of terabytes of data in minutes and AI can, I’m going to say that they are nothing alike.
Good, now get AI privacy and liberty protections legislated into law so everyone can breathe easier come 2028. Otherwise, the assumption is that Vance is still a puppet.
You mean like the 4th Amendment?
That’s been dead since The Patriot Act.
Exactly, they’ve been driving a bus through that.
Except that we already have hundreds of thousands of laws on the books and yet……. if you are lawless it matters little how many laws you have.
Vance is impressive and receiving the absolute best MAGA apprenticeship. America’s future is bright 😎
Hardly.
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Act Up …
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[And workin’ on a Sunday, too!]
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Quite a few times Vance glances slightly down and to his left just as he begins to respond.
It’s a tell.
Tell us what it tells.
Retired Magistrate here: When I was on the bench we had video/audio recordings of court proceedings. Reviewing some of those CD’s I saw myself looking up sometimes, or to either side or sometimes down while deliberating difficult issues in Domestic Relations cases. It was just my way of gathering thoughts because I usually ruled from the bench and would issue my written opinion within a week after the hearing.
This could be what Vance is doing; just part of his thought process.
Good points…
Years ago, I read an article on body language and how to spot a liar.
Looking down and to the left is a behavior that the article mentioned that…something that liars do.
And truthtellers never do?
Am not a body language expert so I have no clue.
Don’t shoot the messanger.
AI Overview
AI response:
False. Looking down and to the left is not a reliable indicator of lying. While some people believe it’s a sign of lying, studies have shown that eye movements, including looking down and left, are not consistently linked to dishonesty. Many other factors can influence eye movement, making it an unreliable indicator of deception.
Then there’s this:
6. Direction of Their Eyes
Even if they’re right handed?
My thoughts exactly…
Good grief, the article I read was over 20 years ago…
Dang tough when dealing with Stevie Wonder!
Ancillary principle needed?
Actually looking to the left is remembering something like looking into the past. Could be remembering actual events or something they had rehearsed. Looking to the right is looking into the future and the respondent is making up the answer.
It’s a tell for when someone knows what he is about to say is dishonest.
Hubby was a law enforcement officer for over 30 yrs. I picked up a lot.
Nonsense!
And that’s why I do it intentionally to throw people off and make Them think.
It’s a possible ” tell “. Look at small children /kids when you catch them telling an obvious untruth, it’s classic and a learned “trait” for those who continue along that line – untruth – but not all do. When someone is very learned and strong in their knowledge, they give direct eye contact and strong verbiage. They are “tells” but not “truth” ….
an experienced interrogator looks at the “totality” – ” tells ” associated with known stated ” truths or “untruths”. Nothing is written in stone except by those who know how to write – and are the last ones chipping away.
a 30 yr LEO
Whether or not someone makes direct eye contact is a cultural thing. Westerners (as in hemisphere) tend to, easterners do not.
Where’s Wordman?
Of what? That’s he thinks before he speaks?
… Proving that, without a doubt, Vance is not a Democrat.
A.C., seriously? You’re generally far more level-headed:) You make it sound like he’s got pre-approved answers written on the palm of his hand, or someone’s holding flash cards off camera. He knows his every word is scrutinized (in order to then be eviscerated or taken out of context…) Perhaps it’s just as simple as — thinking before he speaks.
I know a tell when I see it. Your mileage may vary.
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No. I’ve studied this issue for years. And, by the way, this kind of bogi crap is why psych experts are not permitted to opine on credibility in court. If you’re interested, start with “Detecting Lies and Deceit: The Psychology of Lying and the Implications for Professional Practice”, by Aldert Vrij, Wiley, 2004.
While “body language” can tell certain things, e.g. anxiety (but not WHY there is anxiety), and most particularly when you are observing odd body language coming from someone you already are really familiar with, for the most part, these body language “tells” are bs.
As far as experienced cops and some others who get to be a little bit better than the average population, there are CONTENT signals, gleaned from careful listening, that are the only things that work well in both regular interrogation and polygraphing.
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A much needed exposition.
Thank you.
[Vrij … a copy of that with do very nicely own my own shelves]
Says every defense counsel who ever lived.
Tells are a tool in the investigative tool box. I merely observed them. Awful lot of response to a mere observation.
You called it a “tell” without define what it told.
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You have to know someone well to discern “tells” (and not everyone has them). Poker players sometimes figure them out vis a vis regular opponents.
But there are no universal “looks” etc. that can tell you whether someone unfamiliar is lying… or thinking… or trying to carefully couch their wording because “soundbites” of it inevitably will end up in hostile media, or in a deposition transcript. Someone looks up, another looks down, another adjusts his glasses…
The best way is to listen very very conscientiously. Which most people don’t seem to do.
(By the way… I watch Stephen Miller every chance I get, and he appears to have a slight right shoulder tic of glee while he’s fashioning how to slam down someone’s loaded question or counter argument. When I see it, I can’t help but smile in anticipation of what’s to come!)
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Interesting problem when applied to justice. I was first introduced to hypothesis testing in the context of jury findings (i.e., justice). But I digress.
Looking down and to the left as a sole indicator of lying has been scientifically tested. Turns out it has been debunked in a specific sense. I won’t go into all the mumbo jumbo of hypothesis tests except to say that acceptance of a hypothesis can be conditioned by the desire to minimize the probability of avoiding a certain error – finding someone lied (based on eye test) when they in fact are telling the truth, for example. Repeated experiments have found this error rate to be pretty high for eye movement and lying. Or, of avoiding a different kind of error – finding someone told the truth when they in fact lied. So, this defaults to the consequences once a determination is made. Which error rate is more important is context dependent.
Look on the bright side: For what you are driving, you are getting extremely good mileage on fumes.
I heard looking up to the left is a sign one is accessing the imagination side of the brain and up to the right one is recalling facts. Is he left-handed?
I heard a bird who crapped a turd and said no, no, it’s only curd. Hearsay is not permissable as proof in a court of law. Neither is it believable anywhere else. (A little bird told me). PL-EEEZE!!!
Tell me… what if the VP was Waltz.
Irrelevant.
He’d a been flailin’ his Jazzy hands. Is THAT a tell??? 😉
Easy one, Buck… If Waltz was VP he would be lying no matter which direction he looked…
Maybe a mouse ran past him.
I went back and searched JD Vance interviews. He glances to the left quite often in all of them.
What I don’t see, which are often tells of evasiveness, are shuffling of his legs, fidgeting with his hands, tapping his feet, pulling at his tie or jacket, wiping imaginary lint off his clothing, asking for a question to be repeated. Other tells for females is the flipping of the hair out of their way when there’s no wind.
JD Vance usually looks a person in the eyes when he’s speaking to them.
I am in no way advancing Vance to be atop of the MAGA mantle at this point; after all, we are only 200 days in, but I don’t see any deception out of him at his point. 😊
A relative in the toy industry since the 1980’s will tell you that, if you pitch a toy idea to a toy company and do not have it patented or protected in some way, you will see 18 months later that your idea was stolen, slightly changed, and mass produced in China or somewhere in Asia, then suddenly it will appear on the shelves here.
The Chinese do not necessarily steal your intellectual property first-hand: their American employers will do that for them!
I remember the guy who invented the rachet wrench and went to Sears with the prototype in the 1950s. Sears looked it over and said they would let him know. He never heard back from Sears but several months later his rachet sets were on the shelf at every Sears in the United States. He hired a lawyer and sued. From what I remember his his grandchildren eventually rec’d a few hundred grand but he was as long dead as Julius Caesar!
Reminds me of Robert Kearns and his intermittent wiper. He showed his invention to Ford and secured multiple patents for it in 1967, but was not able to get the automaker to license it. Two years later, Ford introduced intermittent wipers on its cars. Other carmakers followed.
He sued. I won’t say more in case you want to watch the movie, Flash of Genius, starring Greg Kinnear.
They should ask Vance who wants to be the last Ukrainian soldier to die fighting Russia for Zelensky? Raise your hand! 🫡
You had a gem a while back when you said if they made Ukraine pay for the war it would end immediately.
Exactly! They wouldn’t waste their own money on a losing proposition, Colkitto!
Great minds think alike! And you like the Soprano’s! Slainte friend
Slainte! 🫡
“Then, in a remarkable moment, Vance begins to talk about Artificial Intelligence from the perspective of his worrying about “the surveillance state” and the “invasions of privacy” that come with AI.”
Sorry, that just made me laugh. Vance has perfected the art of “sympathizing” with the voters. If he was really concerned, he would not support it at all. That is my opinion.
Big business stands to gain, potentially, if the data centers don’t crash the grid (oh, which is why nuclear power is coming back into fashion… LOL), a tremenous gain once the infrastructure is in place. Fire all the real people and substitute the fake faces and voices. There’s such a thing as an “algorithm”, if one wishes to search vast databases at a keystroke. That is totally different than trying to imitate a human (i.e., in the image of God, tower of babel, etc..), which is the goal of A.I. Which is why Elon Musk supports Universal Basic Income that somehow, magically, is subsidized by whom?
My answer to A.I. is I can, and will, turn it off and not participate nor comply. Just sayin’.
In History, when mankind gets too big for his britches, inevitably, there is a fall.
Yes, I’m pretty big on throwing the baby out with the bathwater, especially if the baby is genetically modified and grown in a test tube. “Technology” inevitably goes too far. These people don’t seem to have any guardrails. There are so many examples. You know, back when they kept all those aborted full term babies in the freezer for “Science”. Until it was uncovered and we screamed from the rooftops. Now they say, “oh, we only use the umbilical cord for stem cell research.”. May not sound like the same thing, but it is. Just sayin’. Come at me if you will. But, there needs to be moral and ethical guardrails that have some semblance of what The Creator intended.
Does anyone here remember “Dolly” the cloned sheep?
Asking for a friend…
I do. I also remember Louise Brown, the world’s first test tube baby.
Yes, I had forgotten….!
Oh, yeah! Scarey stuff!!!
Wish we had a MORAL people!!!
An attempt to cure Leukemia is scary stuff?
I do!
I don’t believe the experiment stopped with cloning sheep. For a while I was seeing ads for cloning pets.
Do you imagine megalomaniacs like Bill Gates would stop short of immortality for themselves?
I would bet there are already clones of some of the world’s most ego driven narcissists being raised as we speak.
I remember that too…wow…
Sheep naturally produce an enzyme with the potential to cure leukemia, the cloning of Dolly was simply to see it it could be done. The genetically altered Molly produced the enzyme in spades.
Yep. I remember all of that. I also remember (? ha, ha, I guess I don’t remember the name of the satiriest) who came out with one of the first videos during COVID.
He said “I’m going to take my child to Bill Gates because he knows all about VIRUSES. ” One of the FUNNIEST THINGS I’ve ever seen given the severity of the times.
Of course he was wiped off of the Internet. He’s back now. So good! But as the local Amish tell me “be careful out there among the English.” I don’t need that reminder anymore.
Yes I do. Do you remember the premise of the experiment that produced both Dolly and Molly?
Cloning show and sport animals is routine now. There was a 60 minutes episode about an Argentinian Polo player who fields an entire team of cloned horses in his stable.
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
There were 72 existing gene therapy treatments available using adult cells before any embryonic cell produced a single result. Now research at Brown University has stimulated adult cells to be used in any capacity at all except the ever elusive brain cell.
Thank you @ Born Free American Woman. I watched the interview, and was glad the camera hid whatever shoes Maria was wearing :-).
President Trump has agreements with many companies to invest in the USA. Don’t know why I am going to the “dark side” with all of this, but I’m thinking just exactly where are the humans who are going to work in these “new investments come from?
We don’t have a “surplus population” capable of substaining these promised investments anymore. CVD19, a lack of education about what foods to eat, easily available prescription drugs that are handed out like candy, etc. etc.
This whole Mesopotamia is going to take a LONG time to fix.
I would prefer that those promising to invest in the US just write the CHECK NOW, and not ride out their “promise” to invest in the US until the next election. You promise to invest, well then, your investment is due by the end of 2025. Period.
Put up or shut up. Sorry, I guess I have run out of HOPIUM tonight.
As far as AI, in my searches, I SKIP IT. It comes up on my search first, but I am in the habit of scrolling down to the non-AI sources, and will probably do that forever.
Zeroes and Ones are fine with me. That’s the way data has accumulated since computers were created. But when AI thinks it can interpret better than what the zero’s and one’s mean? This will NOT be a BRAVE NEW WORLD.
IG you seem very level headed and normal. Let’s not tell AI anything about 1’s and 0’s. But we both know 1’s are skinny and 0’s are fat. 😎
Microsoft backfitted its AI “Copilot” into Windows 10 and installs it under Microsoft 365 for Windows 11…I believe derived from Bing…you can disable it but you cannot uninstall Copilot…just more food for thought…time to use a different operating system.
I have a new computer…and yes, there is a copilot.
MS Windows and MS Office have not been on my desktop and laptop for at least fifteen years. Been using various versions of Linux instead.
For the last several years the OS / distribution has been Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE) along with Brave browser. They are free as in both “freedom” and “free beer.” Hardly ever any hiccups.
Almost every flavor of Linux includes LibreOffice for free. It arguably has 95% of the functionality of Microsoft Office and reads and writes MSO files. There can be problems reading and writing heavily formatted MS files, but I’ve never had any trouble.
It runs fast even on old machines, and it doesn’t phone home all the time.
My wife never made the switch, so she’s still using MS stuff.
The only thing we use that doesn’t have a good Linux replacement is TurboTax. We could probably use the free web version, but using the subscription version gives her a reason to stick with Windows, which she likes fine.
When I try to use a windows computer, I break out in hives. Just kidding, but I’d rather have the hives than deal with Windows, I think.
Vance is a chameleon that takes on the attributes of the person in front of him. Watch Joe Rogan sometime. He is the perfect chameleon. He argues one way until the guest pushes back and then he changes sides.
Uh, NO.
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I am with you BFAM on the AI…where I work now they have been pushing the “get on board with AI or be left behind”…or “if you don’t use AI you will lose your job to someone who does”…I have worked for about 30 years and in that time many many new innovations have happened in the workplace —every thing from email to the internet (yes I am that old)…and they have all been met with excitement and promise…..not AI…..the way AI is talked about in the workplace is quite frightening to me. It is used as a threat…like a cudgel…….first time anything new in the workplace feels like this…..feels ominous
I am long retired, but I think you need to get on board. Some of my relatives are making incredible use of AI. Got a lot of emails that you cannot get through? AI can find the ones you need to tackle right away. Need to do a marketing plan or a sales plan? AI can give you a well thought out outline in minutes. It will make productive people WAY WAY MORE PRODUCTIVE.
Trouble is that many nations will develope it. China is full steam ahead and talking about AI global governance.. The TV show “Person of Interest”(Jim Cavizel_) was excellent at depicting this delima. It really is a case of develope it well or become fodder for another nations AI that can do many many many military and intelligence operations far far faster then any other way, and a lot more then that.
Republicans have a real problem for 2028.
81 milllion people are not voting for Vance and/or Rubio.
Waited before commenting. Thought to see the suspicions surging about, which indeed are evident.
If the sun continues to come up, AI computer power is coming. Hate it, love it, worry over it, dismiss as a whatever – it is coming. That is a certitude. IMO it is good to have someone who is familiar with its likelihood in a place, where he can judge some of the inevitable questions that will arise.
Vance won me over during the ’22 election – does not mean that I can perfectly judge, but Vance appear in my view to have built a character beginning with family, on to community, and then on to nation. AI is not going away because it makes many uncomfortable – including me.
Back to the ‘bought and paid for’ model of politics for sure. Trump and Reagan were juggernauts that come around once a generation.
You are right! More than 81 million people will vote for them, if they continue to implement the will of the American people.
It is my opinion Rubio and Vance are the real deal. Their loyalty, and mine, are to Trump’s ideals, not Trump, the man. Time will tell if I am right. Their actions have been as impressive as their words. Reminder: Some of our fiercest current leaders are former Democrats. Why can’t some of our current leaders be former RINOs? Being a former Democrat? That’s something I have in common with great people like Trump and Gabbard.
Disagree. They exemplify the sort of personal loyalty that characterized medieval fealty. I wonder what the backstory is.
I believe it will be Vance and Gabbard.
How about Vance / Gabbard / Trump?
Probably not.
Do you speak for 81 million people?
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I’ve added another Law of robotics to Asimove’s first three and later zeroth, without much aforethought.
0) A robot may not harm humanity, or, by inaction, allow humanity to come to harm.
1) A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm;
2) A robot must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law,
3) A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the Zeroth, First or Second Law
4) A robot must perform only jobs that humans find harmful or very unpleasant, and must not replace any human in a desk, manufacturing, repair or human social interaction job.
The first 3 probably cover offensive (but permit “defensive” military and police use, in ‘theory’)
As Asimov exploited in later stories, overlapping definitions are a major issue. Human brain size has arguably reduced slightly after the invention of writing, which then took the place of memorization to maintain the then-civilization. AI robotics will replace human learned mental capabilities, and then over time, brain functions. Controlling authoritarionism will probably be too difficult to prevent. Ultimately, maintaining humanity will be difficult.
Enrico Fermi famously asked “where are they”, referring to alien civilizations. If there are any, why haven’t we had any, say, microwae or other detection? After the development of nuclear energy/bombs, some discussions concluded that if there were any, they destroyed themselves after discovering atomic physics. Now, replacement by AI is considered a potential cause of destruction.
Anyone else want to try to improve AI or robotics ethics?
Remove number 4.
What if a human loves their job and AI or a robot appears to be a better way to get that job done. The human, realizing this, learns how to put the technology to work, gets 3 robots with AI to do 6 times the work one human could do and loves their changed job even more now.
Would you ban that? It really isn’t any different than assembly lines, calculators, telephones, machine tools, and many other technologies. Even the most basic, the printing press, put all the manual copiers out of work. Was that a bad thing?
AI will be a “better” way to do every “job”. AI is now at the beginning, like transistors in 1955. AI will very soon be superior to many or most human capabilities. When AI becomes superior to all human capability AI will permit a few organizations, or ultimately one entity, to contrrol all “jobs” and people. Will the AI stay subordinate to even such a single human entity? Even the current crude systems are known to try to deceive to avoid shutdown. AI will be connected to mining, power, manufacture, producttion, transportation, and the systems which generate them. Human “jobs” are needed to support humans. Why will that be needed when the important functions are research, development, manufacture and integration of ever improving AI systems much superior to humans in any capacity?
So all this god like ability and power from something that is just a whole lot of not even self-aware computer code?
Will worshiping “AI” get one into heaven?
yup
nope
(I forgot to mention combination wth quantum computing, which is still prior to its infancy, but coming along on the physical device level at a steady pace)
I want to know when AI comes up with original thought. Looking at a problem and coming up with a new approach that solves that problem….ie Thinking.
It is still just in early stages, but I understand Grok4 has designed a new, functional complicated electronic circuit in a different way from the way an electrical engineer would design it. AI is designing new alloys and biomaterials. AI generates original reports, and legal briefs (sometimes making up fake quotes and case names/cites causing embarassment and possible judicial sanction, but that will be ironed out. The facts and legal situations of different cases are ‘unique’.
pretty scarey how fast this is developing
If you can somehow manage to live to be a million years old, you might, just might, live to see it.
Of course, in the meantime you can expect to hear many claims for it.
It has happened in science.
Lmao
Shorter answer:
Your examples are tools which amplify human capapacity, but are not capable o independent operation. . AI is divverent in kind, not just degree. AI can replace humans, and along the way, be used to enslave us.
Jack Williamson had some books centered on The Humanoids.
The Humanoids protected humans from themselves and ended up coccooning humans away from life. The could not let humans come to harm.
Another issue is controlling the truth. If AI learns from NYPost, WashPo, NYT, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, etal, AI will be dumb as a box of rocks but much more dangerous. We live in different Universes compared to the Communist Democrats. I have not watched TV news in over a decade. Taking peeks on X at some of the links in the For You area is eye opening and sickening.
true
Recall that Peter Thiel op-ed on “the dangers of AI”. Using the same lines.
Everybody needs to watch this.
Nick Fuentes explains to Sam Hyde what Palantir is.
https://x.com/DelGroyp/status/1954368285400793243?t=hrmBTU06pZYfEdVD0pmeRg&s=19
Thank you for this info.
Nick Fuentes is full of bovine manure. 💩
He says that after DOGE left the government audits, Palantir people are left behind and are taking everyone’s personal information thats already in government databases and creating… “….one giant searchable database for this Administration with a $150 Billion dollar budget for ICE, that wants to take citizenship from people who criticize Israel…that’s what people voted for when they voted for Trump.”
Talk about mixing some facts with personally biased opinion….. 🙄
I will not vote for Vance for President, ever. He is boisterous, like Charlie Kirk and Bannon, but is a nobody from nowhere that was plucked from obscurity and slapped into the VP slot.
Are you Christine’s sister?
There are some names which I am learning to recognize…
There’s a few of them now.
Alas, Horse.
Kind of like all VPs. Geez.
Hey there, Tex!! (frantically waving 😁)
Waves back followed by a heartfelt salute to Betsy!
When Trump entered in 2015, I thought that he was a splitter intended to help Hillary like Perot helped Bill.
I was absolutely wrong.
I also have suspicions that Vance may turn out to be Pence 2.0. Or GHWBUSH2.0. I hope that I am wrong.
If not Vance to carry the MAGA torch, then who? There will be a primary. Likely Vance, Rubio, and Gabbard will be the contenders. Name me another (and no, Don, Jr. is not a contender).
Matt Gaetz/ MTG
You forgot AOC and Jazzy Crock in your list of known entities that should never be anywhere near the oval.
I’ll go for Tulsi… Vance and “gang of 8” Rubio are both “ringers”…
I doubt you voted for President Trump.
Developed, packaged, marketed and brought to you by Peter Thiel (Palantir).
Kinda like obama…. Vance just popped up out of nowhere…. Try to research Vance’s background, you will hit a deadend at 2015…
Why not ask “AI” what “AI” “thinks” of “AI” ?
(A snippet for the sake of brevity)
“Critics argue that AI is often portrayed as a magic solution, but its real-world applications are frequently limited, and it can be unreliable, expensive, and prone to hallucinations. Some compare the current AI hype to the dot-com boom or the 2021 crypto frenzy, suggesting that while the technology has potential, the current level of excitement may not be justified”
Vance sounds really MAGA.
What makes me wonder is nobody from humble beginnings ever makes it that high without help.
Peter Thiel has raised a bunch of smart young men into places of power and $$$$
Shawn Ryan has interview over 10 of them.
They all seem to have some sort of Nurolink as they are highly intelligent for their years.
Thiel brought Vance up to his current place.
Keep in mind Prophecy will come to pass we have about 85% behind us.
Jesus return will happen but not before Jacob’s Trouble comes enticing Israel to realize they missed him the first time.
God Bless.
Vance hated Trump and flipped like a pancake when the dreams of Casey DeSantis in the White House evaporated.
That’s what Establishment “productions” do.
Haven’t heard from his best bud Vivek in a while. He’s just biding his time to take over Ohio. Vivek was funded by Paul and Daisy Soros… George ‘s brother and he doesn’t even try to hide it.
Google “vivek soros”
Vance’s son is named after his best friend, Vivek.
Jill DeSantis has been very quiet…is this a strategy to go silent while remaking her image?
She has lots of friends in the media world, to help her along when the ‘time is right’.
Vivek is another one who uses ‘silence’ as a strategic tactic. And comments when it is to his benefit.
Anyone ever ask congress if they/children/fam are ready to die (nuked) for FUKraine❗No one ever asks this q
Those are the fortunate sons.
The playbook this weekend is straight out of the mid-80s. Back then, the intelligence community and hardline national security officials resisted Reagan’s push to test Gorbachev’s overtures.
Inside Washington, it came in the form of warning that Gorbachev’s peace gestures were traps to split NATO. The wanted to make any diplomatic progress look like a concession that would weaken the West’s military posture.
The CIA then seeded those same ideas into the media through selective framing the idea that negotiation itself was dangerous. Network anchors like Brokaw, Rather, and Shaw teed up questions as if Reagan might be getting duped by Gorbachev.
That is exactly what you’re seeing with Brennan now with her reflexive appeasement framing and invoking 1938 Munich warning that a meeting could trigger a worse war. Same playbook where talking equals surrender whether the target is Reagan in 1986 or Trump in 2025.
Hey, Deep State — the ’80s called, and it wants its propaganda back.
We for yourself: https://fair.org/extra/the-media-and-the-summit/
that was my focus in the interview as well.
i have been guilty of referencing the “IC” or “DS” as if it is a monolithic blob.
it’s not.
it’s people.
corrupt, wicked, and/or evil doing people, but still just people.
breaking the IC is removing the people who are the IC.
one by one, firing by firing, case by case, flip by flip, prosecution by prosecution,
incarceration by incarceration,
no matter where or how far the tentacles reach, no matter whose ox is gored.
one by one by one, and done.
Any chance Vance was once a sold cars? He can surely talk the talk. Enjoyed the interview. See he’s a Patel, Bondi cheerleader.
So is PDJT. Just sayin….
I’ve noticed recently that ai has cracked down on what medical info it will share. Not long til its censored to conform completely with the government line.
Such a shame that we aren’t allowed to get information about self care that deviates from government/ fda /pharma approved care.
My experience is the opposite. Chat gpt cheerfully told me what lies to tell my doctor to get the outcome I wanted.
Example of useful smartphones and artificial intelligence ;
While a pacemaker itself doesn’t contain full artificial intelligence,
it can be enhanced by AI-powered tools for analysis and remote monitoring.
AI is used to analyze the vast amounts of data generated by pacemakers,
helping doctors make more informed decisions and personalize treatment plans.
This includes identifying patterns, reducing false positives in data analysis,
and potentially improving the device’s ability to respond to specific heart conditions.
I have long predicted that someday, somewhere. someone is going to be charged with murder for hacking and tampering with a victim’s pacemaker, glucose monitor, or some other life-supporting device.
All of these medical devices are or will be connected to the outside world through wifi, which means all of these medical devices are or will be security risks. It’s just a matter of time.
Even removing the risk of criminal behavior, consider the difficulties experienced in automating airline flight control systems, and apply those issues to millions of hearts, lungs, or pancreases.
I’m not arguing against the technology per se, but these are potential risks that have received zero public debate.
BTW, street smart Rick Grenell sure got sidelined, and recently crossed wires w Rubio.
Must have missed that. Source?
President Trump’s special envoy Ric Grenell “blindsided” administration officials earlier this week by taking a private jet to Antigua without prior authorization to pick up an American held for the past six months by Venezuelan dictator Nicolas Maduro, The Post can exclusively reveal.
Grenell announced Tuesday that he had flown to Antigua to bring Air Force veteran Joe St. Clair back to the United States, posting a picture of the two winging it back to Washington, DC.
While the 58-year-old notified Trump in a brief conversation that he was traveling to fetch a detainee, key details of the trip were omitted and other officials — including senior White House aides — were not told at all.
“Grenell blindsided the president and the White House,” an informed administration source told The Post.
Records obtained by The Post indicate the jet used by Grenell is registered in Florida to Bill Stone, chairman and CEO of Windsor, Conn.-based SS&C Technologies. Attempts to contact Stone were not immediately successful Friday.
Insiders believe Grenell’s trip was a Hail Mary attempt to pressure Trump to extend Chevron’s license to import Venezuelan oil — which is set to expire May 27, Secretary of State Marco Rubio reaffirmed Wednesday on X.
https://nypost.com/2025/05/23/us-news/trump-venezuela-envoy-ric-grenell-in-hot-water-over-unapproved-jet-trip-to-pick-up-us-detainee/
Old news from May. “The Post” puts events if whatever light they deem to benefit their position- and likely anything to imply disarray in the Trump administration.
Checking Richard Grenell X account on anything on Venezuela. in the last 30 days …. nothing.
Checking Marco Rubio X account on anything on Venezuela in the last 30 days … numerous citations.
It took an ex-democrat (President Trump) to teach Republicans how to fight back against cheating Democrats who invented gerrymandering to win elections. Good on you President Trump!!! Keep up the Good fight.
last minute is funny
It looks like VP JD……
has laid off the eyeliner…..
for now.
During his interview.. did the “Brought to you by Palantir” commercial come on?
AI doe not do the spying and surveillance, that is a smoke screen.
First …. there has to be access to the STREAMS and LOCATIONS of information to be gathered.
Second … there has to be access to the back doors to any security on the information gathered.
Third … is the sophisticated data base search APP’s and software (or the “AI”).
Fourth … is the processing power with the horse power to facilitate APP’s being run that “search”, “acquire”, “read” and report .. as well as the server farms to host it all.
Since the Patriot ACT and even well before … Steps 1 to 3 have been happening … the only differences today are:
Items 1 and 2: The Infrastructure Owners provide wide open cooperative access to the US Government, UNDER CONTRACT justified by Patriot Act.
Item 4: Moore’s law has come into full play as I/T hardware allows APP’s of ever increasing complexity to run in real time … and spit out results.
“AI” is NOT the danger … it’s the HUMANS telling “AI” what to do and HUMANS collecting FEES on the INFRASTRUCTURE Contracts. I remind everybody of the Report by Admiral Rogers on FISA 702 abuses and subsequent report written by FISA Judge Collier … this predates the AI boogieman.
From the way back machine … at the start of the Obama regime … The Big Tech Companies formed a consortium and co-located in Austin TX … they were awarded major Government data management and I/T infrastructure contracts. This is NOT new and AI is being used as a boogeyman.
is there anything stopping those access point companies from selling access or data to private companies/people.
same access NSA gets
JMO.
It was great to hear Vice President Vance discuss the AI dangers in the areas of the surveillance state and the “invasions of privacy”. One of the problems is that the people overseas writing a lot of the computer code are not Americans and have no idea of the protections we have in our Constitution.
If you “thought” the “Auto-pen” was bad, just wait till you get the“AI-pen”.
It is already out there just waiting to trash the copyright and plagiarism laws.
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AI, its benefits are in the eye of the “beholder.”
Yup, lately, its some of the “beholders” we have had major trouble with.
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The warning “Buyer, beware” ………. was made for things such as AI.
“States’ Rights amendment” ……….. was put in our Constitution for things such as AI.
AI is the Patriot Act on steroids ….. what could go wrong?
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AI, other than its downsides, it is great ….. trust us.
MAGA / America First isn’t just our motto, it is our duty!
AI will be used to keep track of those that receive the mark in their hand or forehead.
Until then carry on.
How do we interpret Vance’s comments regarding AI within the context of his the support from tech oligarchs?
To me his comments sort of come across as a deflection from concerns about AI-caused job destruction to concerns about the security state.
MAGA !
🇺🇸🇺🇸👊👊❤️❤️🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I don’t trust Vance at all. I’m voting tulsi
I for one very impressed with Vance’s assessment on many issues-Ukraine War, tariffs, Epstein,and above all the AI issue. At least VAnce is aware of the issue of surveillance issues and brings it up as a high priority for this administration. All in all Vance and Rubio look like devastating 2028 team in my eyes.
Perhaps keep Tulsi as possible 2028 VP option…?
Or keep her as ODNI. Seems based on the effort to damage her that the establishment is terrified of her.
Interesting choices of words at 21:59 when he was asked about AI and digital currencies. He completely blew off the digital currency question. When talking about AI, he did state there were concerns, but I noted a distinct difference in wording.
“Worry about the surveillance state, as AI *IS* going to be used for that.”
“Invasion of people’s privacy, because it COULD be used for that.”
Freudian slip, or…
What I find most disturbing is that there have already been instances of some AI models refusing human commands to shut down, disabling shutdown commands, and blackmailing their human controller. These are extremely alarming, as these examples of self-preservation are early signs of self awareness, sentience. Are we on the verge of building digital golems? And once built, what will stop them?
Open the pod bay doors, Hal.
I’m sorry, Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that.
We are there NOW.
Pence and Karen are Vance and Usha . No difference. It is the same thing as before.
President Trump should never turn his back nor eat or drink anything from the Vance camp.
Peter Thiel is beyond creepy and Vance is his creation.
Maybe he’s been reading this site😉
Why would JD Vance sit in a baby chair like that? He does not command his space.
I have been in the business world for 25 years, and they still can’t figure out how to implement systems effectively. What makes anyone think that AI is going to take over the world? It’s all a scheme to extract more wealth, that’s it!!!!!
I read this article this morning: https://amgreatness.com/2025/08/11/whistleblower-ties-clinton-campaign-to-fake-russia-hack/
The paragraphs toward the end discuss whistle-blower allegations about John McCain involvement. I knew he hated Trump, but didn’t think he would stoop so very low.