As the Senate begins the confirmation process….. A POINT:
“If I understand this correctly, the Senate Intel Committee will only approve Trump’s nominee for ODNI if she agrees to support an un-Constitutional provision that permits the government that none of us trust to illegally surveille American citizens without a warrant…but a provision that also makes an exception for members of Congress or their staff, who presumably value their privacy and don’t want to be illegally surveilled.
Meanwhile, President Biden is preparing to issue a blanket pardon of all the bad actors who illegally surveilled, wiretapped, sued, imprisoned and tried to assassinate his political enemies, so that no one can legally surveille, wiretap, sue or imprison them…and they get off scott-free.
Do I have that right?” ~LionTigerBear
Yes, you have that encapsulation correct. Additionally, the discussion of Joe Biden pardons -both metered and predicted- outlines the ideological mindset behind those who believe they rule over us.
If you pull back from the granular debate and think about it, none of the FISA justifications align with reality.
The FISA system is a designated secret court system that is said to only pertain to “foreign nationals.”
Ok, so if we accept the premise. Foreign nationals do not have U.S. constitutional protection. So why does the surveillance and intercept of them require secret U.S. courts?
In reality, the Secret Courts are needed because it’s not foreign nationals that need to be navigated in the surveillance system; it’s the American citizenry engagement within that surveillance that requires a different legal approach.
Why should an American citizen suddenly have their constitutional protections switched from U.S. Federal Court to U.S. Federal FISA courts (secret), simply because their contact -perhaps inadvertent- skims up against a foreign national?
The constitutional protection (4th amendment) should not be arbitrary, depending on your contact. A regular federal court judge can decide on the issue of a Title-1 warrant, that can be filed under seal if the exploration of the contact is a genuine concern.
There is no need for a secret court for either foreign nationals or U.S citizens. The former do not have constitutional protection, and the latter should not lose it under arbitrary determinations of U.S govt officials.
That’s the entire predicate that underpins the 4th amendment.
All of that said…. I’ll tell you why this issue is so important, and it has to do with the future, not the past.
The justification for the FISA-702 warrantless searching of American metadata, is a cornerstone for the enlargement of a surveillance state. The flawed precept behind 702 specifically, is the gateway needed to expand the system.
Real ID, Digital ID, AI used in facial recognition systems, and the larger issue of track and trace capability of U.S. citizen data (connecting your physical identity to a digital fingerprint), requires some legal justification to create a surveillance network DESPITE the 4th amendment.
FISA-702 is the proverbial camel’s nose under the tent of privacy.
IF we were to abolish FISA-702, which we should, then what legal justification would exist to continue unsecuring the American people from “their private papers and effects.”
The build out of the surveillance state becomes more legally tenuous, perhaps impossible, if privacy protections of the 4th amendment are firm.
Finding a way to surveil Americans, while working around the constitutional protection in place to stop it, is why the FISA-702 issue has become more important for those who are building the surveillance system under the guise of national security.
Challenge the legal justification for FISA-702, and you throw a massive wrench in the machinery of a growing surveillance state.
If you are secure in your papers and effects, you cannot be forced to “show your papers.”
Right now, the monitoring system designed is being done so they can get the answers to your identity, without having to ask you to show your papers, which is unconstitutional.
You drive through the metaphorical checkpoint, because the system automatically recognizes your identity. This is said to be a legal workaround.
However, what happens at the checkpoint (bank, atm machine, employment verification, port of entry or even voting booth) when government identifies you (for whatever arbitrary reason they construct) as a “politically exposed person.”
Don’t think congress is stupid about this, they know exactly what is going on. They understand just how dangerous this is; that’s why in the last FISA-702 reauthorization, congress literally wrote into the renewal that federal representatives cannot be subject to the FISA-702 rules.
All members of congress must be notified in advance, if their private metadata is going to be reviewed by the FBI, DOJ or any entity with access to the NSA full spectrum database library. They exempted themselves and secured their 4th amendment protections exclusively for themselves.
That’s the “change” in the law they all agreed to during the debate of the renewal. However, We The People are not granted this same notification or protection from weaponized access.
Expanding the point. In essence Congress made themselves “grey walkers.” Individuals that can go through the checkpoints with a database return result that permits them unimpeded travel. A special designation.
Now, do you see how a surveillance state creates a tiered hierarchy of disparate power and constitutional protection.
If AI converges with this total identity state, which it will, then the automation will have designations for people of special privilege.
It’s brutally easy to see how this system would be weaponized. My goal is to awaken people to it.
This is my hill!
Peter Thiel is the man building the tool (AI surveillance weapon) for the IC to deploy against American Citizens. Thiel writes an op-ed saying the privacy protections of Americans are important because the govt to whom he is giving the weapon is demonstrably weaponized and corrupt.
Reconcile this!
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[…] “Darker questions still emerge in these dusky final weeks of our interregnum. Venture capitalist Marc Andreessen recently suggested on Joe Rogan’s podcast that the Biden administration debanked crypto entrepreneurs. How closely does our financial system resemble a social credit system? Were an IRS contractor’s illegal leaks of Trump’s tax records anomalous, or should Americans assume their right to financial privacy hinges on their politics? And can one speak of a right to privacy at all when Congress conserves Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, under which the FBI conducts tens of thousands of warrantless searches of Americans’ communications?”


Sundance – Can Trump, on his own, end this fisa 702 thing? Can anyone answer this question for me please? Thanking you in advance…God bless America.
Data centers us a lot of electricity. Someone has to okay paying the bill.
Pam Bondi can…. Simply by not using the FISA Court
DOGE can defund or depopulate the FISA Court?
RINO traitor Chief Justice Roberts appoints all the judges to the FISA Court. I rest my case.
So criminals run it all?
Congress is exempted as well as their staff.
I think I saw a YouTube video which pointed out that (at least some of) the publicly released J6 surveillance tapes had certain faces blurred. Which presumably means Palantir or an equivalent had gone though, identified government agents, and hidden them. That’s the real purpose of a Panopticon in a Socialist State, isn’t it? -Not just to punish the slaves for any resistance, but to protect the masters from any accountability. It’s only needed if they mean to do terrible things.
Well then vigilante justice it is.
I was a no-walker yesterday when the traffic light programming wouldn’t give me a walk signal. It just kept feeding green lights to the cars for cycle after cycle. I was probably seen by a hundred more people driving by than I would have been otherwise.
After the 2020 election, I found an article about a supposed Army program called “Kraken” which was developing an AI tool to surveil people who approached a base, using a variety of sensors. Trusted, recognized people would get little scrutiny, others would be closely monitored by the software.
Our Senators and Reps need to know that We the Peeps do not want the FISA 702 or the FISA courts.
JMO.
MAGA / America First patriots have done a great job of ferreting out the unconstitutional use of FISA-702, the warrantless searches of American communication and electronic metadata, by the personnel in the departments of the pre-2025 Executive Branch, thereby negating American’s 4th amendment protection.
Electing President Trump on 11/5/24, has given “we the people” a chance to eliminate the problem, not only for President Trump’s term but “permanently” for decades, even a century or more.
But to do it, we have to change our approach. We can’t play by the rules of the globalists / communists in the legislative and judicial branches. They run a fixed game …… you can’t win a fixed game.
We stop trying to out maneuver the rules of the fixed game, and instead, we develop our own rules (methods) to get to where we want to go …… protecting all American’s 4th amendment rights …… and then just go do it.
President Trump is the Executive Branch and all the things that need to be done are in the purview of the Executive Branch. There ain’t nothin’ to it, but to do it ….. there is no need to ask permission from any stinkin’ congressman, senator or jurists.
The next paragraphs describe our methods to permanently protect all American’s 4th amendment rights from the globalists / communists FISA-702 process.
File under: FISA-702 trap
The FISA-702 trap is just another example of a standard catch-22 trap that has been set by the legislative and judicial branches against the Executive Branch, to steal some of the Executive Branch’s Constitutional power. They have been setting these traps for over a century. Stealing a little of the Executive Branch’s Constitutional power at a time.
Over the century, the globalist legislative and judicial branches have co-conspired with the globalist presidents, like the Bushes, Clinton, and O-bummer to steal some of the Executive Branch’s Constitutional power.
The globalist presidents would just not challenge the legislative and judicial branches’ Constitutional overreach, thus abdicating the power of the Executive Branch. The Constitution wasn’t amended, the globalists in the 3 branches just conspired to reduce the power of the Executive Branch.
That stopped with the election of President Trump, 45, and now 47. The unconstitutional FISA-702 process is the most recent example of that stealing occurring.
A FISA-702 catch-22 trap involves a network of unconstitutional rules that leaves no avenue for a 2025 Executive branch employee to take, to honor his oath of protecting the Constitution and every American citizen’s 4th amendment rights
The FISA-702 catch-22 trap can be defeated permanently in 2025.
Here is how it is done in a 2025 Constitutional Compliant Executive Branch, a 2 step process:
(One, the temporary fix) Simply stop following the FISA-702 rules set by the previous unconstitutional agreement between the 3 federal branches. Based on his oath President Trump can not be associated with anything unconstitutional … the same goes for his employees. Just stop using FISA-702 against any American ……. period ……. President Trump issues an order for all Executive Branch employees to stop using the FISA-702 process against Americans. To still perform their duties, they would use Constitutional means of achieving their objectives, just like they did before the globalist set up the unconstitutional FISA-702 process.
(Two, the permanent fix) President Trump’s Constitutional compliant Executive Branch would then take their own Executive Branch “constitutional actions” to protect the 4th amendment rights of Americans.
Occam’s razor principle points to the most effective, direct method for President Trump’s Executive Branch to permanently defeat the globalist / communist FISA-702 catch-22 trap:
Large databases are the Achilles heel of the globalists / communists and their unconstitutional FISA-702 process. Make the large databases that the “FISA-702 process” accesses “null” and presto, the unconstitutional FISA-702 process is eliminated, the catch-22 trap is disabled.
Don’t let the globalists tell you it can’t be done …. the large databases are a recent development (within decades) … prior to those, disjointed data files were used for storing data. Constitutional freedoms and large databases can not coexist. The unconstitutional federal weaponization against Americans only started when the large databases were built and funded by the federal government.
The Constitution rules. The globalists / communists in the legislative and judicial branches be damned. Their day of reckoning will come with the election and appointment of more MAGA / America First citizens. Until then, the 2025 Executive Branch will stand alone as being Constitutional Compliant. Thanks to the voters on 11/5/24, electing President Trump who loves, supports and defends our Constitutional Republic and the Constitution.
MAGA / America First …… isn’t just our motto, it is our duty.
The three Constitutional scholars who can help educated the people–Turley, McCarthy, Derschowitz