As the Senate begins the confirmation process….. A POINT:
“If I understand this correctly, the Senate Intel Committee will only approve Trump’s nominee for ODNI if she agrees to support an un-Constitutional provision that permits the government that none of us trust to illegally surveille American citizens without a warrant…but a provision that also makes an exception for members of Congress or their staff, who presumably value their privacy and don’t want to be illegally surveilled.
Meanwhile, President Biden is preparing to issue a blanket pardon of all the bad actors who illegally surveilled, wiretapped, sued, imprisoned and tried to assassinate his political enemies, so that no one can legally surveille, wiretap, sue or imprison them…and they get off scott-free.
Do I have that right?” ~LionTigerBear
Yes, you have that encapsulation correct. Additionally, the discussion of Joe Biden pardons -both metered and predicted- outlines the ideological mindset behind those who believe they rule over us.
If you pull back from the granular debate and think about it, none of the FISA justifications align with reality.
The FISA system is a designated secret court system that is said to only pertain to “foreign nationals.”
Ok, so if we accept the premise. Foreign nationals do not have U.S. constitutional protection. So why does the surveillance and intercept of them require secret U.S. courts?
In reality, the Secret Courts are needed because it’s not foreign nationals that need to be navigated in the surveillance system; it’s the American citizenry engagement within that surveillance that requires a different legal approach.
Why should an American citizen suddenly have their constitutional protections switched from U.S. Federal Court to U.S. Federal FISA courts (secret), simply because their contact -perhaps inadvertent- skims up against a foreign national?
The constitutional protection (4th amendment) should not be arbitrary, depending on your contact. A regular federal court judge can decide on the issue of a Title-1 warrant, that can be filed under seal if the exploration of the contact is a genuine concern.
There is no need for a secret court for either foreign nationals or U.S citizens. The former do not have constitutional protection, and the latter should not lose it under arbitrary determinations of U.S govt officials.
That’s the entire predicate that underpins the 4th amendment.
All of that said…. I’ll tell you why this issue is so important, and it has to do with the future, not the past.
The justification for the FISA-702 warrantless searching of American metadata, is a cornerstone for the enlargement of a surveillance state. The flawed precept behind 702 specifically, is the gateway needed to expand the system.
Real ID, Digital ID, AI used in facial recognition systems, and the larger issue of track and trace capability of U.S. citizen data (connecting your physical identity to a digital fingerprint), requires some legal justification to create a surveillance network DESPITE the 4th amendment.
FISA-702 is the proverbial camel’s nose under the tent of privacy.
IF we were to abolish FISA-702, which we should, then what legal justification would exist to continue unsecuring the American people from “their private papers and effects.”
The build out of the surveillance state becomes more legally tenuous, perhaps impossible, if privacy protections of the 4th amendment are firm.
Finding a way to surveil Americans, while working around the constitutional protection in place to stop it, is why the FISA-702 issue has become more important for those who are building the surveillance system under the guise of national security.
Challenge the legal justification for FISA-702, and you throw a massive wrench in the machinery of a growing surveillance state.
If you are secure in your papers and effects, you cannot be forced to “show your papers.”
Right now, the monitoring system designed is being done so they can get the answers to your identity, without having to ask you to show your papers, which is unconstitutional.
You drive through the metaphorical checkpoint, because the system automatically recognizes your identity. This is said to be a legal workaround.
However, what happens at the checkpoint (bank, atm machine, employment verification, port of entry or even voting booth) when government identifies you (for whatever arbitrary reason they construct) as a “politically exposed person.”
Don’t think congress is stupid about this, they know exactly what is going on. They understand just how dangerous this is; that’s why in the last FISA-702 reauthorization, congress literally wrote into the renewal that federal representatives cannot be subject to the FISA-702 rules.
All members of congress must be notified in advance, if their private metadata is going to be reviewed by the FBI, DOJ or any entity with access to the NSA full spectrum database library. They exempted themselves and secured their 4th amendment protections exclusively for themselves.
That’s the “change” in the law they all agreed to during the debate of the renewal. However, We The People are not granted this same notification or protection from weaponized access.
Expanding the point. In essence Congress made themselves “grey walkers.” Individuals that can go through the checkpoints with a database return result that permits them unimpeded travel. A special designation.
Now, do you see how a surveillance state creates a tiered hierarchy of disparate power and constitutional protection.
If AI converges with this total identity state, which it will, then the automation will have designations for people of special privilege.
It’s brutally easy to see how this system would be weaponized. My goal is to awaken people to it.
This is my hill!
Peter Thiel is the man building the tool (AI surveillance weapon) for the IC to deploy against American Citizens. Thiel writes an op-ed saying the privacy protections of Americans are important because the govt to whom he is giving the weapon is demonstrably weaponized and corrupt.
Reconcile this!
[SEE HERE]
[…] “Darker questions still emerge in these dusky final weeks of our interregnum. Venture capitalist Marc Andreessen recently suggested on Joe Rogan’s podcast that the Biden administration debanked crypto entrepreneurs. How closely does our financial system resemble a social credit system? Were an IRS contractor’s illegal leaks of Trump’s tax records anomalous, or should Americans assume their right to financial privacy hinges on their politics? And can one speak of a right to privacy at all when Congress conserves Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, under which the FBI conducts tens of thousands of warrantless searches of Americans’ communications?”


The fact that congress exempted themselves is a weakpoint to exploit. If not from SCOTUS then from the general public. Enough Average Joes get pissed then it becomes much easier to throw sand in the machine.
It all comes down to Trump and his appointees. Will Trump actually target these evil people and would his appointees even carry it out?
The scale of the 702 abuses is staggering. It’s not just bureaucrats and senators. Prominent legacy media personalities – including controlled opposition at outlets like Fox News – actively participate in these crimes. You have to strangle and kill that entire 5-headed serpent.
And every time somebody stands up publicly to oppose reauthorization, they have a seemingly-bizarre religious conversion right before they vote for it or sign it into law. So it seems clear they’re being told “support this, or we kill your family”.
Either Trump’s going to target this, or he’s not. Surrounding himself with the same billionaires who simply can’t WAIT to profit from the strip mining of Americans’ privacy so that they can sell it is not confidence inspiring.
Thus has it always been for those in power.
The difference is….the technology makes it so very much easier to identify problem children.
Maranatha
You would think in a perfect world enough people in senate & congress would see that their exception to the rule and realize this is not right. The senate & congress members who are the most vocal in their veiled justification to continue FISA-702 can at least be voted out if everybody makes a big enough stink about this.
Do members of Congress remain exempt from FISA 702 searches after they leave office?
Just like they and their staff are exempt from the 💉
You can bet to some extent they are except their surveillance is used in the extortion system and blackmail.
The snoopers break the law and spy on us. The RINO Congress members think those same criminals won’t break the law and spy on them. They are stupid. The RINO Congress members are the main targets.
Excellent question!
what part of “ALL men are created equal….” don’t they get?
“ALL” of it. Pun intended.
Does it really matter? Point being that they shouldn’t be exempt in the first place if the
system met Constitutional requirements.
Where is the Supreme Court is my question? If Congress can keep passing a system that conflicts with our 4th Amendment protections, then why can’t these justices shut the whole FISA system down as unconstitutional?
You really think the current SC has the balls to shut it all down? I don’t.
Then why do we have a Supreme Court? If they can’t rule on the constitutionality of a law then they shouldn’t exist in the first place.
The Chief Justice of the SCOTUS, Justice Roberts appoints the 11 judges who comprise the FISA court. Don’t think Justice Roberts gives a fig about the Constitution, JMHO.
Hey Sundance have you seen who can act as Amici Curiae to the FISA court? Our old nemesis Mary B. McCord
Here’s the link and those organizations these people belong to are interesting.
https://www.fisc.uscourts.gov/amici-curiae
Can a SC Justice be a terrorist?
How would you describe a person who would deliberately set out to destroy the Constitution?
As discussed here many times, there needs to be a legal challenge to the Patriot Act as a whole. Parts of or the whole thing could be ruled as unconstitutional.
The SC is not looking forward to having this placed in front of them. The same 4th estate IC group will be in Roberts face with all the blackmail items they need to get him to roll over and play nice and rule everything is honky dory and constitutional.
I’m aware, but that’s my point. If a law is so egregious and so unconstitutional that the effects of such law directly attack our rights as described under the 4th Amendment, then why no case? Why no challenge to the Patriot Act?
I don’t care what the SC is looking forward to, if they don’t look at this then are they truly Americans? Or something worse? Do we have a Constitution?
What is worse? A terrorist attack on our nation or people deliberately setting out to undermine our Constitution? Or a SC refusing to look at a law that completely undermines our rights as citizens? Wouldn’t we be in a post Constitutional period of anarchy?
Yes, we are in anarchy – So?
Get Right with God, Pass the popcorn and Keep G19/P365 handy. Let’s Roll!
Cool.
The Supreme court cannot just go around intervening in this or that whenever the notion strikes them. They have to wait until somebody brings a case before them. I get what you are saying, but your question is out of place.
No, you answered my question in a round about way, but I already knew the answer. I know how the Courts work, that wasn’t the question.
If a law is unconstitutional and the effects of such law intentionally attack our rights as described under the 4th Amendment, then why hasn’t anyone challenged the law? Why hasn’t a case been brought?
Very simple but thanks for your response.
…when they leave office? On their death beds…
let the conversation start after Jan 20th.
I don’t want Trump to talk to us about what he is going to do, until after Jan 20th, 2025.
Then Give them HELL , President Trump, … please HELP all the American’s who got jailed and punished in this Corrupt System, Please sir, Give them HELL.
Sir, you had tons of money to deal with the corrupt system, most people don’t have the money you have, sir, American’s tortured, jailed, lied about, … by a corrupt system. Please SHOUT in your POSTS about “fixing” this system.
Please call out the REPS that are corrupt, and the Dems that are corrupt, and Media who are corrupt. Use names and dates of their evil doings. We are counting on you to clean up the swamp. Tell us who the bad apples are so we can HELP YOU deal with them and expose them! Use your skills GOD GAVE YOU to “help us, sir” … we are dieing … please help us.
In regards to the jsix hostages, the first person to be called out should Chutkan, the evil judge behind numerous onerous sentences.
Strip Judicial Immunity from Judgeships.
They have no immunity while committing Felonies: Violation of Rights Under Color of Law 18 USC 242 (conspiracy to violate rights 18 USC 241).
Our biggest problem “here and now” is WHO will enforce the law?
You/We will likely need the militia before this is over: Fully authorized to enforce the laws of the union: Articl 1 section 8 clause 15: calling forth the militia to enforce the laws of the union
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Rights not denied to the states or the people are retained by the people
This means congress does not have EXCLUSIVE rights to call forth the militia.
Normally the right:
1 Governor
2 Sheriff
3 Local/State militia Commander
Mike Davis is calling for indictments under this very law. All those judges, prosecutors, DOJ violated PT civil rights.
Individuals can sue directly under 42 U.S. Code § 1983 – Civil action for deprivation of rights.
Here is part 1 of an eight-part series; links to subsequent parts are found at the end of each installment:
https://newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin16.htm
This brilliant constitutional lawyer is also on YouTube.
ALL serious Anericans should be familiar with this series of articles.
I sincerely hope you are right, but I am not optimistic.
Your concern is duly noted.
When speed cameras started to appear across America I thought that the camel’s nose was under the tent. Now, the entire camel and most of the caravan are inside the tent and the herdsmen, us, will never be able to remove them from inside the tent. G od help us.
Yes and I don’t remember giving consent to any of that
We are understanding that the next step is to remove the tent.
Then everything is open and the camels can be shooed away as we re-erect our tent.
How to remove the tent……
Para 2 Dec of ind + Amend 2 …necessary to secure a free state
When all other methods have failed: as they have failed in “no pretending” times.
An interactive map:
https://atlasofsurveillance.org/es/atlas?locale=es
ALL of it depends on a *universal* and *unfailing* supply of electricity.
Curious about one thing: If members of Congress and their staffs are exempt from FISA 702 searches and seizures, are they granted this exemption permanently or is that privilege lost when he/she is no longer a member of Congress or the staff of a member of Congress? Does it apply to spouses in the same way that testifying against a spouse would?
A question for Sundance or the many legal superstars who follow this forum: Are pre-emptive pardons legal and, if so, do they absolve the pardoned from any financial liability for their illegal actions?
Members of Congress are dumber than I thought, if they believe that they and their families are now, and will continue to be, exempt from this surveillance. One flick of the keyboard could remove that so-called exemption.
If I recall correctly, wasn’t it revealed after the 2020 election that quite a few R politicians, I think mostly in the Freedom Caucus, and also some in 45’s administration (I think Kash Patel was one) were spied upon?
All of the illegal searches in 2016-2017 were not just against candidate Trump.
Every R candidate was spied on including Walker, Rubio, Cruz & Crispy Crème.
That’s how they are controlled.
There are 10,000 people that have access to the databases, far too many. If those CONgress critters think they aren’t being illegally checked on, they are very naive. I think Sundance mentioned there were 2,000,000 illegal searches.
The only way we fix congress is to have a convention of states or war. Do you really think they will fix themselves. We should have a convention and take away their ability to exempt themselves and give pay raises to themselves and we would be in control again.
A Convention of States would be a huge mistake, too much power to unscrupulous and corrupt people. I choose war…🇺🇸
One step on the way to “combat/war” can be tried: Law enforcement by armed men organized as Constitutional Militia.
I repeat:
https://newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin16.htm
no effin way I’m clicking on an ambiguous link. Cut and paste a portion to give the gist – too much malicious spyware!
OR…. we could try enforcing The Constitution. I know it’s a crazy idea… so crazy it just might work!
Sundance already explained why SCOTUS won’t get involved with this issue…..people have to put fear into the reps. to vote it out. Watch to see if they really do away with the vote fraud….we will see the true culpricks.
Great explanation, as usual.
Thank you.
They already know everything they need to know. And the some.
Taking a plane is creepy.
It’s not hard to figure out that they need no more information.
So Congress only exempted themselves. How nice. What about the President, VP, and the Cabinet members? If you are the party in power but you didn’t put the right people in control of the NSA and other data collection agencies, you will be spied on (see Trump in the last time in office). The President cannot make a move without it first being know by the other party.
Excellent point! There are supposed to be three co-equal branches. Is SCOTUS exempt? Executive Branch?
Spying on the President, Vice President, and cabinet may already be covered by current espionage laws. Worth verifying.
That was an issue Congress didn’t follow up on when Meuller (or Rosenstein) brought, and left, a cell phone in the room where they had their interview with President Trump. Normally, the Secret Service confiscates all electronic gadgets before entering that room. Either they messed up, or Meuller snuck in a second one. Nobody in Congress (that I’m aware of) made any effort to investigate if that line was open during and after the interview.
Whatever happened to Equal protection under the law?
My sincere HOPE, and it can only be hope, is that Tulsi Gabbard understands the “passwords” she needs to declare to get herself INSIDE the MATRIX. Once in, she can be the proverbial Trojan horse to both control, manipulate, and eventually declare the thing DEAD by not renewing the annual operational status review.
Also, how can she determine whether the “passwords” she is given get her INSIDE the real MATRIX, not a fake one?
she needs to play it like the dems.say yes she will keep the 702.once confirmed and in place say i changed my mind shut it down.
Reminds me of the evil County Recorder in Maricopa County, AZ. Stephen Richer ran as a Republican in the once RED County and was elected. As soon as he got in he started pushing for things like no voter ID. He was the guy responsible for the disastrous 2020 and 2022 elections. Surprisingly he didn’t pull any stunts in 2024. I think he took President Trump’s warning seriously.
Kari Lake got beat fair and square?
The ONLY upside to the blanket pardon described above is that the recipients of this pardon must ADMIT that they, in fact, did the thing for which they are being pardoned. On that basis alone President Trump should strip every single one of them of their security clearances and FIRE every one of them still in the employ of the government of The United States and PERMANENTLY BAR them from future employment by the U.S. Government.
Haven’t some particularly egregious Blob evildoers already stated they don’t want a pardon, for this very reason?
And no I am not talking about those two murderers on death row.
I couldn’t help but look at the terrible hellish fires in a long debauched California when I read your post, js.
“…sometimes the way God does this is painful.”
What we are witnessing now…the inexorable rise of AI which cannot be denied is being used as the “one ring to rule us all”… is, I firmly believe, an anti Christ.
GK Chesterton wrote, ” When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing, they then become capable of believing in anything.”
I am old enough to have been witness over the decades the deliberate elimination of Almighty God from every aspect of this nation. And as recently as the Covid years, the horrifying abdication of too many churches from their purpose as earthly shepherds who have switched their allegiances to the false gods of men….climate (Gaia), gender ideology, and other “anythings” of which it seems AI is intended to be the “one” as is clearly and publicly announced by that satanic entity, the WEF.
But as dark as the portents are regarding the plans of men, as you state so well our eternal Father holds the power over all. How and when He chooses to act is unknowable… but that He will is certain.
Thank you for for your thoughtful post, js.
Exactly as I predicted.
Trump’s radical reformer cabinet nominees will ONLY be confirmed if they promise to not do anything radical.
The Blob/Deep State/Big Pharma/Big Food/Intel Community (including Five Eyes) OWNERS of “our” government didn’t magically disappear because he was elected via a few percent majority of the popular vote in our easily propagandized attention deficit political idiocracy.
Blackmail System Used to Corrupt and Control Politicians (10:20)
Crossroads with JOSHUA PHILIPP
5 Feb 2024
It’s beyond those politics. Blackmail politics would be only if free and fair elections existed. They don’t. The best we can do is for the public to overcome the things they do when they are losing. In 2020 it was a full-court press and nothing NOTHING could stand in their way. This was the most surreal time of my life. Reality became a drunken illusion and it really took quite some time to regain any sense of reality.
And in 2024, the public absolutely overcame their game. The absurd over-night illegal ballots and all the rest… stopped. Only California would shamelessly continue counting votes for the next month or more. (maybe there was more but that where the news stories were from)
We have a system of puppets and no longer are candidates actually allowed to be voted on by the people. The Democratic party became the polar opposite of their name in the 2024 election cycle. The Republican Party is only a little better but somehow Mitt Romney and the like keep remaining in office despite how much general disgust their presence brings.
They knew Trump couldn’t be bought and they knew he didn’t have anything they could hold against him. That’s why, in 2016, the entire system went after him. Despite all of that, people like me who saw the fury and anger directed at Trump as a sign that he’s a THREAT, decided we would back him with every fiber or our being. Any person who is a threat against what we have now is exactly who we need.
When tyranny becomes law, what is our duty?
April is “just”?
Tucker said, “nobody cares.” The correct statement is, the people about which he spoke don’t care.
And why is anyone allowing this to continue, INDEED!
And why do SO MANY of those in the House and Senate have aberrant sex lives? Those about who Tucker spoke are therefore all compromised.
All laws passed anywhere should always apply to the lawmakers as well. Full stop.
A Constitutional Amendment is needed to specifically state that.
Sometimes I wish Sundance was a journalist and could sit in on PT press conference so he could ask questions with the first being why PT allows the unconstitutional surveillance of Americans via a hidden court?
i wonder if PT truly realizes the abuse and the extent of the violation of Americans 4th amendment rights that has been occurring and why if he is so for Americans first, he allows this over reach and abuse?
Maybe next time Sundance is in DC he can get a WH press pass? As this question would be a doozy.
They never use this extensive surveillance system against terrorists, arsonists, illegals, drug dealers, money mules, traffickers, foreign nationals living next to military bases, Congress, bureaucrats, ballot mules, Election Dept employees, or families of government officials.
That never seems to happen. Those people are the potential criminals in this country.
I cannot wait for God’s wrath to be poured out all over them. I want to see and hear them cry for the mountains to fall upon them.
Ben Franklin’s ‘giving up liberty for a little safety…’….
Not a criticism, because we all evolve in our thinking over time, experience and age. But I remember Sundance discussing the “surveillance program” and describing it with words like “in the right hands….useful tool.” If I were drinking anything at the time, I would have sprayed it all over my display.
There are no “right hands” for this kind of violation of rights. Even if Jesus Christ returned to take charge of the US government, his term would eventually be up and and it’s right back in the hands of those unworthy. Since this time, Sundance has definitely taken a more obviously clear perspective on this matter and I appreciate it. Genuinely.
Any law repugnant to the constitution is null and void. This should have been the reaction of the courts long ago. “Technical exceptions” like “but it’s not surveillance until a person looks at it” is the excuse they use and that the requirement for a warrant to access the data satisfies the constitution… yet we know thousands upon thousands of IG reporting shows this warrant requirement had been violated endlessly to a degree that it would be considered institutional or cultural within departments.
The only answer is to shut the M-F-in thing down and make then to their actual jobs.
This year our CPA sent me a notice that I had to file a Beneficial Ownership Information Report by Jan. 1 for our corporation This is now required of the U.S. Department of the Treasury’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN).
I had not made the connection before Sundance’s articles about Real ID being such an intricate part of the surveillance process. I was required to upload Driver’s Licenses.
Suspicious cat.
For those who have not filed that BOIR form, there is currently a nationwide injunction on this filing requirement; it will either become permanent or be lifted once the case is heard and gone through the various courts.
The govt filed an appeal to the Supreme Court on Dec. 31, 2024 to lift the nationwide injunction. The other party had until last Friday, Jan 10, 2025 to file their response.
This site appears to have the latest updates on this filing requirement:
https://www.fredlaw.com/alert-texas-court-issues-nationwide-injunction-on-corporate-transparency-act
Besssie, thank you. This was helpful. Unfortunately, I filed ours on Dec. 1.
Don’t think there’s anything in those forms (we filed also) that the govt doesn’t already know; as a friend, and also a business owner said, at this time the agency just wants to know who would be a contact person for the business.
just realized, this is off topic to the thread. Sorry.
FORCE
Nothing less will stop this.
Only We the People can fix this….🇺🇲
Boycott Congress’ Insider Trading Investments, I guarantee you a Miraculous change in attitude.
Why doesn’t the Suspicious Active Reports provide the predicate for investigating corruption without FISA? No ‘secret’ court is required. Senator/Representative so and so you are under investigation for bribery. Making the evidence public with an honest election system would be enough to remove most of them from office. Resign with a pardon or face the music?
How else can we explain how people making 250K a year become multi-millionaires? And those are just the ‘on’ shore assets they report to the IRS, or do they even report those correctly as we witnessed with the Biden crime family?
Then there is equal treatment before the law.
At no point should this be twisted into making corruption ‘legal’ while serving as ‘representative’ of the sovereign ‘We the People’. If it’s illegal for the ‘We the People’ it should be illegal for those who merely ‘represent’ our sovereign power.
Another issue with FISA is evidence gathered ‘outside’ the provision of the Constitution is not admissible in court.
The whole system operates as a “find me the man I’ll find you the crime” approach to criminal justice.
Why not use this weapon against the Traitors and Marxist’s destroying our Constitutional Republic?
We will use it to clear out the swamp and then cast it back into the fire from whence it came.
Question: Once the system is up and operating, then what happens if the system is banned?
My guess is that it will appear to go away but will continued to be used by whomever they give it to. Once it is created then, if need be, it will go underground.
Access to this database should be severely restricted. Of course, that will be abused as well because the “good guys” will be denied access and the “bad guys” will have unfettered access.
This genie is already out of the bottle and I do not see how we can put it back into the bottle.
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Here is the ACLU’s explanation and opinion. Interesting because from the “other side”:
https://www.aclu.org/news/national-security/five-things-to-know-about-nsa-mass-surveillance-and-the-coming-fight-in-congress
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Is the main problem FISA, which authorizes surveillance going forward where there is communication with a foreign person, or is it Executive Order 12333 (Reagan, Bush), which authorized the collection and storage of this kind of data, indiscriminately (what facilitates the abusive queries)?.
Are you seriously saying that the core legal instrument authorising the collection of the data in the first place, without which none of this system could function, is a 40 year old EO which has never been replaced by legislation passed through Congress, and Americans have been so somnolent and so wrapped up in trivial pursuits there has never been a massive groundswell of public debate and widespread protests until such time as Congress was forced to put its name to such an obviously Orwellian and unconstitutional law?
Wow. Just wow. Do you guys even deserve the exquisitely designed Constitutional Republic that your forefathers fought and died for and gifted to you? Or are you just happy to fritter away your children’s birthright because you’ve been too busy watching sports and exploring the fascinating lifestyles of your favourite celebrities? Sounds like the latter to me. Wow.
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Looks that way, doesn’t it. We’ve been so asleep for 40 years. It’s so much easier to prevent a problem than to fix one that’s expanded its tentacles all over.
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I think that 40 years ago nobody believed that this invasive technology would actually exist. We were still hoping for a flying car.
YOUR country is also going to enjoy this surveillance. Please tell us what you and your fellow citizens are doing or have done to fight this in YOUR COUNTRY.
Have you, too, been busy watching sports and celebrity worshiping? What occupies your popular culture? Every country has those distractions. Even yours.
So, let’s hear what you’re doing to fight this. Or do you not have an Exquisitely Designed Constitution and just have to suck it up?
You’re quite right, my country has done the same thing and as a matter of fact as I was writing my 11.33 post, I wondered if I should put a qualifier stating exactly that. But then I thought, I’ve already done that multiple times here in my previous posts when talking about this issue of somnolence, and at some point making the same point about the whole of the Western world having 95% of the population asleep and dragging the 5% of us who have not been asleep down along with them, alongside the point you were actually making at the time, becomes redundant. I’m as disgusted at my own countrymen as you should be with yours, and I hope the UK, and Canadian, and Australian 5% all feel the same way, not to mention the people in every country in the EU. We have all been crucified by our fellow countrymen, we have been crucified by them on this issue, we were crucified by them on covid, on the endless wars the puppets start while the idiots stand around and let them while our country’s international reputations are destroyed along with our own personal reputations when we travel abroad, on the climate bollocks, on the meaningless bread and circuses, on the media lies the idiots never even notice are lies, on and on and on and on.
What are we going to do, when this is over, if we have won and our enemies have lost? Personally, I’d like a special tax launched on the 95% of the idiots which they get to pay for the rest of their miserable lives which is given to us 5%. Easily established via social media. Who has been saying what about these subjects ever since the 1990’s? Data is all there, easily proven. My social media record speaks for itself. So will theirs. That’s what I’d like.
But as you know, your War of Independence only involved about 5% of you who fought in it, while the 95% of you just sat it out then reaped the benefits once the others had won it. And most Americans don’t even know that happened that way, do they. So I expect this is how it will roll this time too. If we win.
So our reward is to fight or die, and the only people who will ever know what we did over these coming next 25 or so years and for the last 5 or so, because that’s how long this period we’re 5 years into is going to take, according to my research anyway, are us, and maybe a few within our own families. And you know what? I wouldn’t have it any other way. I’m not doing this, haven’t been doing this for over 35 years, for glory or honour. I’m doing it to grow my own soul. And so far, I’m pretty happy with how that project’s going.
So if I call out 95% of your countrymen again with a blanket term of “American,” without explaining I’m only talking to 95% of Americans, none of whom will ever read this because you here are all part of the 5%, this is why.
We are in the last days of the Church Age.
4 And Jesus answered and said to them, “See to it that no one misleads you.
5 For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many.
6 You will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not frightened, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end.
7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and in various places there will be famines and earthquakes.
8 But all these things are merely the beginning of birth pangs.
9 “Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name.
10 At that time many will fall away and will betray one another and hate one another.
11 Many false prophets will arise and will mislead many.
12 Because lawlessness is increased, most people’s love will grow cold.
13 But the one who endures to the end, he will be saved.
14 This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come. Perilous Times (Matthew 24:4, NASB)
Prophesy will unfold exactly as it has been written. Although many will perceive it incorrectly the Creator of the Universe Jesus Father knows the beginning from the end.
He has a number of Saints those of us who believe. That he will see saved. After that has been achieved it is time for the end of all the corruption. This time frame will be 3 1/2 years.
One human mixed with Satan himself will bring all the nations together peace and prosperity will reign thruought the world until the peace treaty is broken with Israel then all HELL breaks loose.
1 After these things I heard something like a loud voice of a great multitude in heaven, saying, “Hallelujah! Salvation and glory and power belong to our God;
2 BECAUSE HIS JUDGMENTS ARE TRUE AND RIGHTEOUS; for He has judged the great harlot who was corrupting the earth with her immorality, and HE HAS AVENGED THE BLOOD OF HIS BOND-SERVANTS ON HER.”
3 And a second time they said, “Hallelujah! HER SMOKE RISES UP FOREVER AND EVER.”
4 And the twenty-four elders and the four living creatures fell down and worshiped God who sits on the throne saying, “Amen. Hallelujah!”
5 And a voice came from the throne, saying, “Give praise to our God, all you His bond-servants, you who fear Him, the small and the great.” (Revelation 19:1, NASB)
Either we loose the power to control the world or we are Mystery Babylon.
God gives us (Believers who study) the ability to understand the times we are in close to the time they happen. In Daniel it is termed Close the book until the time at hand is upon them.
We are not there yet and must loose some of our might so GOG and MAGOG can assume the power Gog and MAGOG Russia and China. AKA Kings of the East. God Bless
Perhaps We are gog and magog? It does look like the USofA is the big pretender and destroyer. If we cannot clean out our spiritual house and our country, then we are taking the lead in this drama of darkness and death.
We are not North of Israel therefore we cannot be. Wheeewwwwwweeeee. Thank God for that.
I do see your point and have thought prayed and searched the Scriptures to verify.
I believe there are still millions of Believers in this great nation all God needs to restore anything he wishes is a small remnant. In doing his restorations he is proving he is God.
My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin and will heal their land. (2 Chronicles 7:14, NASB)
I am a simple man who works with my hands and am not very good at going back and checking posts this one I had a little whisper that last post was harsh you need to go back and offer some kind of HOPE.
Thank you for the help God Bless. G.
PS. Sundance whenever im prompted to fill in the box below I write TheconservativePatriot God Bless you TOO.
Reconciling that all those creating AI surveillance, lovers of FISA are snakes in the grass and speak with forked tongue.
”However, what happens at the checkpoint (bank, atm machine, employment verification, port of entry or even voting booth) when government identifies you (for whatever arbitrary reason they construct) as a “politically exposed person.””
Some folks, myself included, are wondering if those wildfires and the purposeful malfeasance will lead to the building of those 15 minute cities in Los Angeles the Globalists think will be Utopia. I believe they will fail but there was one section of an article that caught my eye and relates to this.
“The plan envisions a city that is easy to get around without a car via a unified digital payment platform for Metro rail, buses, bikes and shuttles. “Ethical proactive technology” will help identify “fire, violence, or other risks to health and safety of LA residents” even before a 911 call. The city will deploy “ubiquitous, ultra-high speed 5G connectivity” across its environs. It calls for the deployment of smart wayfinding kiosks and 10,000 public electric vehicle charging stations.”
The section I bolded is what “they” dream of. The ability to “ethically” search your everything and determine if you are a “risk to health and safety”. In other words, catch “criminals” before they even commit a crime
They FISA 702 just happens to be one of those “checkpoints”. They will monitor absolutely everything you say or type and determine if you are a “threat”.
1984 by George Orwell is worth a reread.
“How Los Angeles Plans to Become a “Smarter City” by the 2028 Olympics”
https://www.globalresearch.ca/los-angeles-smarter-city-2028-olympics/5876967
Orwell was a prophet …
The Book of Revelation is another good read it is suggested however to become grounded in the Lord prior.
Basically states that one man will eventually rule over the world he will not allow anyone to participate in buying or selling unless they have a mark dolled out by his government. If I stepped over a line please disregard.
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Seems to me that there’s some confusion and confounding of the issues here. In THEORY, FISA was necessary because Americans (and by the way, some are homegrown “bad guys”) are of necessity, going to be swept up in any electronic surveillance of a suspicious foreignor. AND, there isn’t going to be any basis for a warrant on the “not-bad” Americans, but practicably, one simply canNOT look at a suspicious foreigner’s electronic communications without getting some that affect innocent others. (By the way, this issue also affects innocent others where there is a full warrant search.)
The issue, seems to me, and please correct me if you disagree, all of the many illegal queries of the existing database. Which are without a FISA authorization.
We have laws that punish those with access from illegally accessing, e.g. credit report system. Why not with this? As for Congressers, they assume that they will be in periodic regular contact with foreign persons so… but, e.g. their kids aren’t exempted.
Meanwhile, completely unrelated to FISA, all kinds of electronic information already is being collected publicly and privately.
This issue may be more complex than just demanding the elimination of FISA.
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I think the issue is that any data at all is being collected in the first place. We all know, one hopes, the Patriot Act was pre-written and introduced using 911 as the pretext. America DOES NOT NEED the systems and procedures effected by the Patriot Act to protect itself from overseas illegal activities.
Period.
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Well… FISA started 1978. The collection of electronic communications that included foreigners started via Executive Order under Reagan. That was long before Patriot Act.
Meanwhile, public and private cameras are everywhere. Ditto electronic information of every kind in major databases of public agencies as well as huge private corporations (who readily sell it too), plus medical data thankyou Obamascare.
And people readily go along with all of it, including GPS on all kinds of crap including cell phones (on which they put their entire lives inexplicably), and “driver assist” computerized vehicles, and all kinds of unnecessary internet connectivity of utilities, consumer products, athletic and medical devices, spy robot vacuums forpetessake, banking… not to mention eagerly embracing credit cards, debit cards, alternate payment systems, social media, the “cloud” for storage… plus satellites, Google Earth…
And it IS, and has been for years, readily searchable as well as hackable. Moreover, law enforcement agencies of every kind practicably already have access to everything already in government databases which includes, inter alia, everything related to anything regulated such as banking, licensing, social security and EINs, and what’s “in public”. What they might not have, the tech corporations and innumerable other private companies have and share. And for some time already have been connecting up for multifarious reasons.
So how do we now argue that, if umpteen thousand fed and other bureaucrats and employees (who, irrelevant to FISA-702s, already inappropriately are accessing the NSA database of electronic communications that include a foreign something), FIBs who claim to need to monitor foreign communications of an American — going forward — for national security (and some portion assuredly is) is the primary problem?
I see a LOT of 4th Amendment issues, and they are way beyond FISA. And a lot of foreigner and terrorist issues too, that have to be addressed somehow.
Gone are the days when 30 or 40 years ago I could go completely unmonitored to a payphone and call someone, or drive clear across the country using cash and leave no record of that anywhere, or just go to the doctor and know that anything private remained contained in a manilla file in his office.
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It seems to me that the FISA Court itself is the problem. You have justices that quickly allowed the authorization for the FBIs continued justification for the Trump counterintelligence investigation. Even one judge wrote about the abuses and illegal inquiries but nothing was ever done about this.
The 4th Amendment exists to protect us from even from a corrupt court, that seems to exist for only one reason, which is to abuse probable cause.How does the Constitution protect us from a corrupt Court system?
Combine all of this AI technology with the power of quantum computing enabled by Google’s new Willow chip and you have a real time surveillance network of everyone on Earth’s activities from what we buy and sell to even our biological processes including our thoughts, as they happen, in real time. If you don’t have your own personal Willow chip wired into your brain, the system won’t let you participate in anything, you can’t buy or sell anything, you can’t travel, you can’t interact in any way with anyone who has been chipped.
What does this sound like to you?
https://blog.google/technology/research/google-willow-quantum-chip/
The beginning of the end…or the end of the beginning.
Exactly. They can take a leap, AG.
When you ask a chatbot a question, it replies, then it asks “Anything more?” If you then follow up, the initial question and its reply becomes “context” for the next reply. This is what makes it seem like you’re having a conversation.
Now imagine the “context” is everything the AI knows about you. And by everything, I mean everything, including: your views, values, emotions, and passwords, not to mention every place you’ve been, person you’ve talked to, things you’ve read read or written, items you bought, etc.
All of this “context” about you is currently being collected through phones, cars, laptops, TV’s, IOT devices, social media, email, etc. The information will be used for social control.
There are likely to be multiple objectives:
– AI Assistants, or “Companions” will increasingly assume parental responsibilities in terms of infusing values, core beliefs, acceptable choices, behavioral boundaries, getting “help” for mental distress, etc.
– Development of a backdoor CDBC, via promotion and use of cryptocurrency, probably an alternate financial system, based on a digital ID, that all will be nudged or incentivized into over time, which will be used for enforcing control.
– Creating a backdoor to your “Assistant” that authorities can query in case there is a “control failure” or for any other purpose.
Unfortunately, Trump is backed by those pursuing these goals and he is supporting them. There is no support in Congress or the Supreme Court for the basic human right of privacy.
The ~only power we have is a/ aggressively, actively resist the capture of our private information (admittedly hard, but possible) and b/ join together to demand our privacy rights. If we do not resist, we will become mental slaves.
I just had a “conversation” with chatGPT, and after some pointed prompts and further interrogation, it admitted that the FISA-702 system needed to be totally scrapped. I was surprised. I had to ask it to opine without using any govt agency or website as a source. Obviously, I’m keeping the machine on a 6ft extension chord, that way if it tries to attack me, it’ll unplug itself.
We are being forced to either go along or to form a new Amish-style community.
Okay. Techzilla sucks.
We are slaves now.
Slaves revolt..
If there was to be a “fight” over this issue, I know not likely, I would like to see it framed as a denial of constitutional rights and unequal treatment under the law.
Good for Sidney and Lara, where’s the rest of the “conservative” media?
Once there’s a narrative seen as negative for conservatives all liberal media “pounce” on it.
Sounds like we are living under Totalitarian Government. Worse yet is that the Totalitarians have been working to destroy our Constitutional Republic by destroying the Constitution first, and it looks like that project is nearly completed after +/-100
years. From the bizarre fires in Hawaii and now on our mainland, it looks like we are moving into the physical destruction of the actual Republic. or in more precise jargon, “The sh*t is hitting the fan.”
I would like to say that it has been a daily pleasure for myself that we all found this small sanctuary of sanity several years ago. Thanks to Sundance and this small cadre, I have been able to believe there is still hope for our Republic. But the legal destruction of our Constitution of Liberty that began long ago is now in its final stages. Nothing that happens from now on will make any sense to sensible people.
I think the fire in LA was deliberately set because, so far, no serious investigation of its cause has even been started. I don’t know if any of the conspiracy theories flying around are factual, but this fire in LA has never behaved like a real wildfire. I expect we will learn a lot more before long.
We all know what they said after they cut the tail off of the monkey. They said, “Well, it won’t be long now.”
Why are illegal aliens in our country given due process rights before they are deported out of our country? Why are these foreign nationals given US constitutional protections by our courts?? There is only one reason: to stop deportations!
We need to return to the thinthread technology that was the original design of the NSA plot detection system. It only spit out information that was relevant to containing planned violence.
If Myorkis can lie for 4 years that the border is closed, the border is secure, then Tulsi can surely tell the Dems/RINOs/Deep Staters that she supports FISA-702 in order to get confirmed. Let’s see what she does, not what she says.
13 Trump Appointees Face Confirmation Hearings This Week
Jan 13, 2025
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/13-trump-appointees-face-confirmation-hearings-week
The 13 Trump administration appointees facing confirmation hearings in the coming week include:
[the list with details about each which should indicate how likely they are to be opposed by a Senate with 20 Liberty Score D and F-rated RINOs]
Seems like we are living in pre-revolutionary times. Not at all fun.
At what point did Biden’s staff take over the Presidency? We The People should demand that Trump is allowed to overturn any actions by the un-elected, non-Presidential staff. Or whomever it was making the decisions.
Tulsi should get confirmed, then work to overturn Sec 702
Exactly. No reason for Tulsi to fall on her sword for the Deep State. Do what’s best for the country and the Constitution.
And at this point in time that’s getting the position.
Every time you answer a robocall, you run the risk of interacting with a foreign “agent”. One has to wonder if this is enough to trigger a fisa702 warrant .
If the incoming call doesn’t show up as one of my contacts, I don’t answer. I am not curious about someone trying to reach me when I don’t know who they are or why they’re calling.
As we have evolved, the notion that we can be anonymous is ever harder to defend. If you encountered another human a thousand years ago, an association was formed: “The guy who wears deerskin”. At our countries founding, individuals had more complex identifiers. Today, the Amish are known by their produce, whether they have a buggy, … The first point I’m trying to make is living today means giving up a lot of information about yourself i.e associated datapoints.
With all of the data out in the cloud from every source, a massive AI device can look for all sorts of your interactions. Begging the question on who is operating the AI device, perhaps the first response to a query might be “Totally Honest” or “Hillary-Like” before the straight forward response to the query. If a negative response is given, then the source of the query would be reviewed.
In other words, the 4th Amendment was intended to prevent harassment, so first of all cut off LAWFARE.
I’m out of words, your turn.
Several time’s a day I find myself saying outloude THANK YOU SUNDANCE
This is the same fight with our supposed representatives about healthcare, immigration,FISA 702, IRS reform, and the coming visa fight. All though an overwhelming majority want change it does not happen because they are representing themselves, not us. Reform federal vote laws that are strictly enforced. Vote them out. Problem is they pick and chose which laws they follow.
My hill also!
Most of the comments I get are—
I don’t have to worry -I don’t have anything to hide.🤦♀️
My approach is to use taxes as example…. 👩🏫
What if the Government were going to increase
your taxes to 60%. (or something like that)
You are outraged, want to speak up about it, and
fight against it happening.
Forget it. The surveillance system would be able
to squash any and all resistance.
Another example I have used…🤣
The Government says…beer is bad for you.
You can only buy 7 beers a week. And surveillance
will be able to track how many beers you buy to
make sure you don’t go over your limit.😳
I have gotten creative in my argument against
surveillance and censorship 😉
The censorship under the Covid hoax made many
start paying attention….but not nearly enough are
paying attention yet.
I feel like it is -beat the clock -countdown situation
right now.
“I don’t have to worry -I don’t have anything to hide”
That reason only works if the individual knows precisely what is being looked at, why it’s being looked at, and how the information will be used.
The inability and/or unwillingness to THINK is destroying our Republic.
President Trump doesn’t have anything to hide but he is the most persecuted person in US history.
I’m going back and forth with Lankford’s office on this matter. This has to be the hill!
Thank you!