A massive California wildfire is consuming some of the most valuable property around Los Angeles. The Pacific Palisades fire is expanding rapidly due to high winds and dry conditions. Making matters worse, firefighters are having a problem with water shortages to fight the fire due to California environmental standards.
An ariel shot shows the extent of the fire last night, and the situation is rapidly worsening. Firefighters are now focused on rescue efforts.
CALIFORNIA – A state of emergency has been declared in Los Angeles after a huge wildfire swept through hillsides dotted with celebrity homes.
The fire forced the evacuation of 30,000 people, some of whom abandoned their cars and fled on foot to safety.
Nearly 3,000 acres of the Pacific Palisades area between the coastal towns of Santa Monica and Malibu had burned by the Palisades Fire, officials said. Fire officials said that several people were injured, some with burns to faces and hands.
A second blaze dubbed the Eaton Fire broke out some 30 miles inland near Pasadena and doubled in size to 400 acres in a few hours, the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection said.
California Governor Gavin Newsom, who was in Southern California to attend the naming of a national monument by US President Joe Biden, made a detour to the area to see “first hand the impact of these swirling winds and the embers”.
[…] Witnesses reported a number of homes on fire with flames nearly scorching their cars when people fled the hills of Topanga Canyon, as the fire spread from there down to the Pacific Ocean.
Firefighters in aircraft scooped water from the sea to drop it on the nearby flames. Flames engulfed homes and bulldozers cleared abandoned vehicles from roads so emergency vehicles could pass.
The fire burned some trees on the grounds of the Getty Villa, a museum loaded with priceless works of art, but the collection remained safe, the museum said.
Before the fire started, the National Weather Service had issued its highest alert for extreme fire conditions for much of Los Angeles County from Tuesday through Thursday, predicting wind gusts of 50 to 80 mph.
[…] Actor Steve Guttenberg told a local television station that friends of his were impeded from evacuating because others had abandoned their cars in the road.
“It’s really important for everybody to band together and don’t worry about your personal property. Just get out,” Guttenberg said. “Get your loved ones and get out. (read more)
🚨 #BREAKING: Possible mass casualty situation at Duke’s in Malibu, per LA Scanner
Multiple burn victims reported.
The fire is surrounding neighborhoods trapping people inside. pic.twitter.com/2rBSVKHqim
— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) January 8, 2025
Absolutely terrifying pic.twitter.com/PtEcEkNox4
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) January 8, 2025
800 acres of the most expensive property in the United States has just been consumed by the fires and winds in Los Angeles.
People are evacuating their homes in massive numbers and running for their lives.
Many ditched their cars and ran to the ocean.
Pray for California. pic.twitter.com/29ZftRmXAW
— Paul A. Szypula 🇺🇸 (@Bubblebathgirl) January 8, 2025
Here is an idea: how about NOT LIVING IN A DESERT AND EXPECTING WATER TO BE PLENTIFUL?
To paraphrase Chief Dan George: Only a white man would build cities in a desert and then worry about the water supply.
Or worse: only Leftist Communists would prevent removal of underbrush and ruin the water supply and then blame a completely spurious “Global Warming” for the resulting fires, rather than themselves.
It has not been sufficiently appreciated that Communists have been responsible for some of the absolutely most catastrophic environmental disasters throughout the planet.
e.g.
East German Communists devastated large areas in eastern Germany, making them resemble a moonscape devoid of all vegetation.
Polish vegetable gardens in the 1980’s were contaminated with Cesium and other poisons from local Communist-run and built factories.
The Russian Communists dumped failed nuclear reactors – along with highly radioactive fuel – into the Arctic Ocean!
Right now, of course, the air in Communist China is highly toxic in most of their urban areas.
Life is cheap under Communism, as the individual is unimportant*: an idiotic philosophy, but they have practiced it for well over 100 years.
*(In the movie Doctor Zhivago, the Communist revolutionary Strelnikov remarks rather idly: “The individual life is dead in Russia.“)
it’s not the desert so much as it is piss poor management.
but…why can’t they use some of that nearby Pacific salt water ??
Lets see if FEMA gives each family $750 for their rescue effort.
Because some idiot in management probably said they would get sued for using corrosive salt water. They wouldn’t want those burned out Teslas to rust!
The ECO lobby prohibits the use of de-sal plants. Two plants, one in OC and one in SDcounty are active. The SDcounty plant provides 15% of the water needs for the county. 1 plant.
Santa Barbara built one that had to be portable (mayor’s demand). Has NEVER been used.
The only way CA survives is to be depopulated. There is no true infrastructure progress. It’s actually the reverse. Those who control the infrastructure’s progress see the citizens rights and needs as a well behind the priorities they embrace.
SMH
I was living there when it was built, not much later it was decommissioned, & if I remember correctly dismantled for parts later… Absolute joke & waste of millions of $$.
Apparently burning salt water releases a poisonous substance into the air. Water logged wood that dried and is burned indoors can make you sick.
I don’t know how much salt water it would take to start making people really sick, but right now it seems like it would be a much better idea to put the fire out.
Lord, God, Father Almighty, please, Abba, send a cool, sweet rain to fall upon Los Angeles, and we humbly ask that Your good timing would be now. In Jesus powerful name we pray.
Amen 🙏🏽
That would be a true miracle. No moisture is in the regional forecast for…many days, at least a week. And the humidity levels are expected to be in the mid-teens through most of that time. More strong Santa Anas in same forecast period.
Smiley is right on about the piss poor management. Beyond the native tribes, immigrants from the US (in early 1800s) and all over the world have populated this region for a century. The cycles are what they are. I remember when Malibu burned like crazy 1978-79, then in early 1980 there was over a foot of water on Pacific Coast Highway as I tried to leave SoCal. Only way out is now blocked by the Palisades fire.
It would be a true miracle, one that would show the glory of the Lord as only He can do.
I continue to humbly ask God to send rain, His sweet rain, and as Jesus did in the boat with His disciples, to stop the wind and calm the sea. . .
How about collecting the rain run off and put it in the reservoirs instead of letting it run out to the ocean?
California is hardly the Sahara. (I’m a native Californian)
100%
But SoCal coastal is a coastal semi-desert. Get past the coastal mountains, and it is a desert.
The ECOs disdain of prudent water management is the law in CA. Not a native, but began my stint in the 60’s.
Water management system was built to deal with the cycles of drought and wet. It’s not managed well at all in recent past.
The most sensible solution but prevented by environmental regulations.
How about the state water board allow the snowpack run off to be collected in the reservoirs instead of releasing it into the ocean? Two winters ago the 60-foot snowpack from the Sierras melted and the effing agency let it into the Pacific when it melted.
According to the LA Times the California Water Authorities release 86 trillion gallons of Sierra Mountain snow runoff into the Pacific Ocean every Spring.
You obviously don’t know what a desert looks like. The area that is burning typically has a Mediterranean Climate. Everyone in LA, except most of the illegals who know nothing about the weather there, knows that forest fires are common there.
The problem is that the Los Angeles Mayor severely cut the budget of the LA Fire Department and installed a stupid transgender to be the Fire Chief. The Chief is primarily concerned with setting up a DEI policy for Fire Department hiring. This has already made the Fire Department into a laughing stock with many completely untrained fire fighters and a lot of fire hydrants with no water flowing to them.
I blame Obama, and his obsessive transformation of our country through his DEI programs, for the lack of response to this fire. Obama, not Biden, was the worst President in our history. Of course Governor Newsom, a Democrap acolyte of Obama, thinks he scores political points for attending a ridiculous National Monument naming ceremony. Judging from the evidence, California voters should be seen as having the actual responsibility for this hideous situation. All we can do is pray for the people who are being forced to flee the fire, and hope the airborne fire fighters have lots of very large buckets.
There is nothing to do to stop the fire at 70 to 100 mph winds. I had a 20+ year career in the fire dept in So. Cal.
You can flank it and slow the lateral spread. But you ain’t stopping the forward spread with those winds.
Normally (no wind) the convected heat of fire goes straight up and the radiant heat doesn’t travel to far out. When 70 mph winds lay the flames over the convected heat now has the possibility to pre-heat houses or other vegetation. Also, the radiant heat from the flames can transfer down to the ground.
Thank you for adding those technical facts. Hope it helps everyone understand the difficulty in controlling a situation like this… also that proper preparation is essential.
I think what surprises me most is the new tract homes with stucco that burn. It goes to show the power of wind driven fires: the embers will get blown into the attic in the gable vents and the contents inside can ignite with long radiant/convected heat exposure through the windows.
If the fire has enough energy the embers will be large and numerous, this will increase the probability of something getting into the attic and smolder long enough in combustible material. The problem is, once an attic starts going it’s difficult to put out with strained resources. ( multiple houses on fire at once). The trusses fail quickly.
I feel bad for people, but at the end of the day they chose to live in wild fire prone canyons with limited access and annual Santa Ana wind conditions. Also, very poor defensible space and a lot of older house (they’ll be newer now)
I believe it was reported, that maybe NYE fireworks started a fire … don’t know if it was this fire.
Question:
The minute smoke is detected … in dried out, brush covered, Southern California … why not immediately saturate the smoke area & surrounding land with a massive water-dump from an airplane ???
The prevention of the spread of ANY fire that could turn into a wind driven destroying, murdering monster … seems like a reasonable option.
No moneyfor proper fire fighting aircraft in this country.
At least, not in California. I recon.
They are dispatched immediately. Takes time to take-off and get there.
I don’t know what time it started, but planes don’t operate at night. I believe LA County and City Fire operate their helicopters at night, but not in high winds.
There are different standard dispatch levels depending on fire threat. I would assume they had a high dispatch level with the Santa Ana and dry conditions. In Riverside County that’d be a BC, 5 engines, 2 dozers, 2 hand crews and full aircraft: typically air attack, 2 tankers and a helicopter —> that’s for every reported vegetation (aka wild land) fire during high dispatch levels.
“… but planes don’t operate at night …”
Do fires burn at night ??
Flying and firefighting with aerial drops is very much a visual task. Pilots need to be able to see the fire, and terrain. It gets difficult enough with the smoke, especially LA Basin which traps everything in the area anyway. Pilots need the daylight to be see the fire/smoke/ and unlit terrain as they fly close and drop.
True, but if fire fighters in most of the Country can count their fire hydrants, because they actually maintain and test them. This fire could have been a disaster no matter what preparations were in place. But the waste of men and fire fighting equipment cannot be ignored.
The idea of standing fire departments came in a long time ago. The idea of DEI hiring did not come in until Obama and his gang of Marxists decide to make it happen. Most of the disasters we have seen during the Obama run Biden Administration have been exacerbated by DEI.
Understand … safety is paramount … but these fires are VERY visible at night !!
Thank you Eric.
Am I wrong to think that Santa Ana event like this at this time of year, is rare?
Typically oct/nov but can occur anytime really. Many times, not always, the Santa Ana event is followed by heavy rain/snow event (the high sucks in a low as it moves off).
A few times in my career in nov/early dec it was a red flag warning and still “fire season” one day. Then next day it rained 1″ inches and fire season was done.
I haven’t been paying attention to the CA weather this year. It seems they had a drier winter so you won’t get the grass to turn (to green from dead/brown). A January Santa Ana normally competes against greener grass/vegatation so not impactful.
In a typical fire you’ll get night time recovery allowing progress to be made while the burning conditions are less favorable at night with higher humidity and lower wind speeds. In a Santa Ana is dry and windy 24/7 during the event. Santa Ana is the name for the condition in So Cal. Santa Barbara has “Sundowner” winds, but it’s a foehn wind event: caused by high pressure compressing the air (warming it up and drying it out) that spills over the lee side of the mountain. Typically the high will be in the desert area around Las Vegas (the Great Basin area)
During a sundowner event in Santa Barbara (Painted Cave 1990) the wind speed was 0 at the peak, but just a few feet down it was over 70 mph. I was still in high school at the time, but was told the stories many times during training classes.
Thanks!
I was there then, but don’t remember the Painted Cave Fire much. Do remember the Santa Ana winds, and the 2007 Zaca Fire though that burned over 240,000 acres.
AS one who fought fires in Oregon for three years in a specialty crew, thank you for speaking, and the description of the effects. The mentally ill position of environmental-ISM. looking up the definition of
ISM, is imperative to stopping this.
As they say: tyrants will destroy their own house to stay or take control of others.
Be blessed- and one wonders if this is another Northern Cali, or Maui, in which the information on the use of military directed energy is being exposed.
I sure hope so!, as well as geoengineering and weather modification.
Yes, along with live embers being blown 50-100 miles starting new fires where ever they land. I lived in San Diego when the fires burned from southeast county all the way to the ocean with pop fires everywhere in the county. It was a horrible fire. That was in the mid 2000s.
That one (the Paradise fire) and the Old Fire in San Bernardino. My wife had a kidney stone that she had to go to the ER for so a friend came in a covered for me: I got put on a brush engine that we staffed. I was only home for a day, but they got sent from the desert out to cover a fire station on the west end of Riverside County. The Old Fire started and they got sent. He said they fought house fires for almost 24 hours straight. I eventually gotn an overhead assignment on the Paradise fire towards the end, didn’t do much (I preferred to be at a fire station running calls than be on a wild land fire)
Good thing the forward spread is up and into the mountains and not down towards the center of the dad gum city. Those winds are keeping millions of people safe from the advancement of the fires. The fire problem is because there is no water and nobody there who knows how to attempt a safe perimeter around the fire.
Where I live we are in close proximity to mountains that routinely experience 100 mile per hour winds there. We do get high wind exacerbated fires and there is difficulty putting them out. But, so far, my State is still providing enough water for several large urban areas and a very large area of forested mountains. We can’t compare to a fiasco like this in January, because almost all of our mountains are snow covered and large fires are not as likely this time of year.
You can’t decide to stop storing water in your reservoirs, leave your forests full of dead-fall trees, and by guessing how much water should be allowed for all of your fire hydrants based on some ignorant Climate average. Catastrophic events are never because of average predictions and we have to have plans for possible catastrophes when we do water, land, and urban area water management. Common Sense tells most people in most States that real planning can mitigate the impact of catastrophic weather events to urban and rural areas.
This is a pathetic situation, but only because so many innocent people are impacted by the decisions of a stupid majority who worship Environmental theology. Can somebody please tell me what this theology is based on? What year was it that everything in nature was in such complete balance that we can base a scientific axiom on the imagined conditions of that time? This pseudo science must be based on some observed axioms of nature. How can anyone call this a settled science, or even a science? Science is limited to the observations of permanent axioms of the here and now.
LA is burning down because of a bunch of morons who will believe in anything as long as it isn’t God. So, I am praying for the victims, including the morons who are sinking what used to be a wonderful State.
I read that instead of transgender, she is a proud lesbian, whose priority was to make the FD diverse . Planning for or actually fighting fires was about #20 on her list and it’s now being demonstrated! To quote Forrest Gump, “stupid is as stupid does” and the people of LA are immensely stupid for embracing and allowing themselves to be: ruled by idiots and actually believing the garbage they’re being fed by those idiots. In short, they’re stupid and they will reap what they’ve sown as a result. It’s hard to feel too sorry for them because they essentially asked for this.
https://www.frontpagemag.com/las-fire-department-embraced-dei-and-the-city-burned/
Going forward, I don’t want to hear anybody from California lecturing the rest of the states about their carbon footprints.
I wonder, too, what happens to electric vehicles abandoned on the streets or in garages. When they catch fire, it takes MANY firemen to put out and LOTS of water. Very likely that burning EVs are exacerbating the fire–as if Mother Nature needs any help.
This is something I hadn’t even thought about. But, given the proximity to some of the wealthiest estates in a very Democrap State run by the wealthy elites there, I would bet there is an unusual number of EVs in this situation. This could be a very real problem for the firefighters. Governments don’t seem to get anything right when it comes to Common Sense.
There are many, many Californians who vehemently oppose the insane politics currently gripping their state and many actively work to oppose the madness.
Let’s not lose compassion for them. There but for the Grace of God……
Ours is not to judge. They are suffering and they are victims. They deserve our heartfelt prayers of intercession.
I haven’t. Even though the Common Sense crowd in California is distinct minority, there are 40 million people in California and I am sure there must be at least 15 million who have Common Sense. Fifteen million is more people than all except four other States even have. God taught us to pray for everyone we know, so if we know a person is a Californian, we know that person should be is included in our prayers, I recon.
Good point, Pokey. May we never forget them.
I also pray for the scales to fall away from they eyes of so many who still need to awaken.
My heart aches for what’s happened to my beloved home state.
🎯
I deeply apologize for my misguided votes for so many years.
Sorry, no, I have been throughout the area many times. It is a desert.
I have relatives who are about to leave the area: they have desert plants in their rock gardens, rain is a rarity, and anything that is green needs soil brought in and a sprinkler hits it many hours per day.
One group of cousins has wanted for years to move here to Ohio, but they never get their acts together!
Pacific Palisades is in a desert? Drive on out past Riverside and you will be almost right about a desert. Go to the Mohave and see the actual desert of California. You will find most of it within 150 miles of Arizona. Yuma gets about 4 inches of rain, per year. No reason to argue this point, as it is just a matter of degrees and humidity levels. The fog moves in almost every night in the coastal areas out there. But, compared to Ohio, LA looks like a desert.
😡Where am I supposed to get my Starbucks now!!?😡😡
…..Somebody got to PAY for dis $#it….!!
Call Newsome’s hotline – he can tell you where to go 😎
…..Straight to VM…..huh…..🤔
“Here is an idea: how about NOT LIVING IN A DESERT AND EXPECTING WATER TO BE PLENTIFUL?”
Yep, and places along the Southeast and Texas coast where they build right down to the water edges in Hurricane zones that get washed away by too much water!
MILLIONS of people have been allowed to invade SoCal via illegal and legal immigration (and chain immigration) thus displacing Americans who were doing fine in the LA area. It was not over crowded. The housing was limited to the flat valleys and only the very rich built on the hills and mountains.
Americans were forced out of the city/suburb valley of LA and into the mountains, hills, and canyons of once rural areas that are not made for dense populations. The town that I grew up in from 1964 to 1981 went from 45,000 people to 70,000 by the time that I left to now 430,000. In order to cram that many people into that area they built up the canyons and onto the hills and mountains were the fires regularly occurred.
Go figure. This population did not explode until they allowed unchecked illegal immigration in the 1980s. In the 1990s I would return to visit and we all commented on how many terrible Asian and Hispanic drivers there were in LA (and San Francisco). These new legal and illegal people did not know how to drive.
That’s why I left. When billboards were in Spanish I knew that it was time to go.
This all started with opening up our borders and letting the world in.
Ditto Temecula Valley. 1970 census, less than 3000. 2020 census over 500,000. In the 80 it was still a cow town. No mas.
Here in Colorado, we have a lot more trash tossed out of cars than ever before. I don’t see it happen very often, but our roadsides are always a mess and we have had a huge influx of illegals during the last 4 years. Maybe they don’t have trash pickup down in Central America and this has always been the solution there. The next census isn’t until 2030, but I am sure the population here will be increased by over 50% by then. 🙂
TY, Wiley. I was looking for a way to dump on that remark.
We are constantly looking for a place in this vast country that provides any amount of protection from the Lord’s creation of Mother Nature and the strong natural events, and has the advantages of this region. As elderly folks, we don’t want to live in a four-season region. We have yet to find a place. I will take earthquakes over tornadoes & hurricanes any day of the week.
These wind events (Santa Anas in SoCal, Diablos in Bay Area) happen with regularity. We deal with it and pray.
The US has the title of the biggest underwater ocean radioactive waste dump site!
It starts at the Golden Gate Bridge and heads towards the mother lode over at the Farallon Islands.
I’ve seen pictures of crabs 🦀 crawling over the leaking 55 gallon drums. Every so often they would encounter a “floater” and the rifle would come out and dispatch the drum to Davey Jones locker.
It’s now a National Marine Sanctuary where are personal watercraft are banned because they might harm the environment! Thank you Al Gore!
How have you survived in that leftist H.H. ? was there in the 65-66 period and had Garlic bread & Beer at Laval’s Pizza parlor couple of blocks off the Campus.
Noting the Soviet proclivities, they might be tied with us.
Ponder how it is possible to lose some 80 micro-biologiststo suicide and drowning ( two taps ) and only one Health care CEO, you know, the Greed crowd.
Anyway, thank for the moment, and back to reality – or the movie.
When the LA Rich Suffer it’s Newz, When WNC Suffered , eh not so much. Then there is always the question of Sabotage in the USSA from “Tourists” and/or the Feral Grubmint.
Govt let these ppl down. No land management no water.
Insurance canceled fire coverage? And ppl wonder why Insurance companies paint a target on themselves.
Arson plus crapocrats in govt.=perfect storm.
The only thing the left does well is destroy. They are liken to an aggressive cancer if not removed it will kill the host.
In the 1980s California was luscious with plenty of water one needs to look into how that happened.
The Cali-cult are harvesting their demonic spirit filled gout. Too much consuming of childrens organs, and abuse brings hellfire.
The Santa Ana winds are called the ‘devil’s winds’…….
Well the name is, as said in Rosemary’s Baby, an anagram…
Interesting Diddy’s house next to the Getty Villa is burning/burned. Destroying the connecting tunnels most likely. Many believe demonic stuff has gone on there for years. Some say worse than Epstein Island. God will not be mocked forever. There seems to be a seismic shift going on in the world, no? I anticipate a soon return of King Jesus with sword in hand!
Destroying that evidence is very convenient right now.DEWs?
One can find the agencies that burned Maui, as apparently someone has opted to expose that little issue,
snd the “blue Roof syndrome”. The information is a bit sparse, and needs cooperation, but the photo evidence, and discussion is along with the Havana syndrome, recently noted in an interview with a retired
FBI agent, who has suffered debilitating injuries.
Don’t be idiotic. Fires do what fires do.
What goes around comes around tree hugger carma.
It must suck to be you.
Lord blow your winds of Spiritual conviction and awakening through these Santa Anna Winds in California and across the entire world.
Nothing much surprises me anymore. But … 22 upvotes? Yeah, that’s a jaw-dropper.
Some very disturbed individuals have climbed this tree recently. They are sent here to disrupt and cause strife. The upvotes are to give the appearance of support.
James Woods was posting vids of his deck catching on fire.
Very sad and scary for those folks out there.
Praying for their safety and sanity.
He also posted that a major insurance company had cancelled many policies in the neighborhood approx 4 mos ago.
This is true. Many homes had insurance canceled and the owners have been hiring fire professionals to come in and assess and advise self defense strategies. They’ve no help. Fire crews are overrun.
Does this indicate that they had some advance notice? Maybe?
Anyone with a brain would have seen this coming. We have controlled burns all the time where I live because we’re not stupid about to cut down on forest fires. This could have been mitigated/avoided if you had good people makes sensible decisions about this stuff.
LA Mayor recently cut $17 million from the Fire budget.
Having a mayor who reportedly opted not to refill firefighting water reservoirs due to budget shortfalls may have influenced the insurance companies’ decisions.
Of course.
This can’t be true?
In a sane world it would not be.
According to reports it is – DEI fire chief.
Aka, murderer.
Livin on match sticks.
Southern California is a desert. Even though it diverts rivers from Colorado and other places to serve the unnatural population of scores of millions, it is still a desert.
The desert climate leads to quick growth of shrubs and small trees when it rains. During dry times, that growth turns to tinder, waiting to burn. This is the natural cycle of the desert.
Building a mega-million dollar mansion in the desert with a view of the ocean does not change the natural state of the geography.
Building houses there is as daft as building houses next to a volcano in Hawaii, or on the barrier islands of North Carolina, or on the slopes of Krakatoa in Java.
Totally predictable “disaster.” Sorry for the kids effected, but adults should know better.
We taxpayers who choose NOT to live in beautiful disasters-in-waiting shouldn’t be on the hook to compensate the losses from these fires.
Oh, please! What place is free of natural disasters?
I don’t see any comments today about how god is “in control”.
God is in control and quite often He allows the stupidity of man to play out.
God is always in control. Always.
His ways are not our ways, and rarely can we begin to understand His purposes, but God Is always in control.
That’s because ‘god’ is not in control…
God is.
Trust God.
Fear not.
well, misplacement of your cranium, up your nether end might be an issue to examine. The Lord gave humanity the ability to discern right from wrong –read the definition of “ISM” :
1 forming nouns denoting an action or its result:
• forming nouns denoting a state or quality:
2 forming nouns denoting a system, principle, or ideological movement:
• forming nouns denoting a basis for prejudice or discrimination:
3 forming nouns denoting a peculiarity in language:
4 forming nouns denoting a pathological condition:
The question is NOT: What place is free from natural disasters.
The questions are:
Is THIS place more likely to be subject to natural disasters?And therefore, is it a good idea to build expensive houses, and live here?
The answers, for Southern California are:
1: Yes, much, much more likely to have fires and earthquakes.
2: No, it is an extremely stupid idea to live there.
Besides fires and earthquakes, the region is naturally a desert, with only enough water to support a couple dozen thousand people.
It’s really common sense.
Breckenridge, CO (the entire town) is a huge fire trap. Large, overgrown, and beetle killed trees are embedded closely with large Victorian wooden structures. The entirety of Main Street is one big pile of kindling.
For YEARS the homeowners and business owners fought with the town council about fire mitigation. Too expensive! Will hurt property values! Natural beauty! etc. etc.
Then a fire hit near Peak 7 just a few miles down the road. Luckily, they got help from nature and the winds shifted causing the fire to blow back over itself. The fire department was able to put it out. If the winds had shifted a little bit north-to-south, it’s very likely the entire town would have been wiped out because there’s nothing between Peak 7 and town except a few small roads.
But what do you know!? Suddenly everyone up there is doing more fire mitigation…
CA will need to go through a housing/construction process like they did with earthquake codes years ago. There are things you can do to protect your house from earthquakes during construction. And there are things you can do to prevent fire-loss. But nobody wants to do it, and nobody wants to pay for it.
Sometimes it just takes a little reminder from Mutha’ Naycha’ that you are very vulnerable and should do something about it. Or move.
California Title 24 already requires the exterior of home structure to be fire resistant – think 50 year James Hardie siding which is cement. I built on 5 undeveloped acres in Fallbrook California (NE San Diego County) about 25 years ago and had to go through 7 different agencies for code approval. It’s no easy task building in California.
We knew building, that our road which was homeowner-owned and maintained, there was risks when it comes to fires that the water main on the main road county could be inaccessible… 25 years ago.
This is a really sad circumstance and one of the costs of living in a beautiful area. Coastal communities have the threat too from hurricanes… it’s built in to the “dream”.
One of my employees lives in the fire zone just NE of Palisades. The ONLY reason he still lives there is his neighbor sure to block the sale of his house because he needed to removed trees for fire mitigation. 6 months later they are evacuated when they should be living 200 miles away.
I Google “street viewed” his house today. If the fires head that way, that entire community will be lost. The overgrowth is shocking.
A fire resistant exterior does absolutely no good when a 1,500degF firestorm ignites your house from the inside.
The people of western NC live in a beautiful area that is not flood prone yet, Helene a coastal hurricane hundreds of miles away became a flood. Disasters can happen anywhere. How are the resources used. Pretty sure the 750 dollars FEMA offers to CA residents is going to be laughed at. NC took care of themselves. Is CA that self sufficient? Gavin is such a loser.
Well, actually….
Most of the towns and development in mountainous western NC is on/around water–either creeks and rivers, or creeks and rivers dammed to create lakes.
And those mountain creeks/rivers/lakes will flood when there’s a hard rain. Always have, always will.
Hurricanes regularly blow inland as far as the mountains–regularly in climate terms–a few a century do. Some of those bring massive rainfall.
The floods of 2024 were not unprecedented, nor unusual. Just hadn’t happened in a few years, and people pretend that it’ll never happen again. Wrong!
See the details of the last comparable flood, probably worse than 2024, in the same western NC region:
https://www.ourstate.com/flood-of-1916/
How about the massive developments on NC’s barrier islands, the Outer Banks? A hurricane WILL totally annihilate all buildings on those islands–sooner or later.
Southern AZ has a pretty good record.
The problem isn’t that it’s a desert, the problem is mismanagement of the resources.
Exactly. It isn’t like people just recently started living in these areas. But the mismanagement of resources and DEI initiatives are recent.
People have lived in deserts for millenia. It’s really not that hard.
The key has always been proper water management and the key to proper management is : 1) transport from points of origin, and 2) adequate STORAGE!
DEI and Queer theory mean NOTHING and aren’t worth a damn!.
Sure they have. In numbers that were commensurate with the ability of the geography to support them.
Southern California is an unnatural attempt to fool Mother Nature.
It’s not working.
No excuse for PC-Prog incompetence.
You build your house in a swamp, don’t be surprised when it gets wet.
You build your house on top of a tinderbox, don’t be surprised when it gets hot.
Southern California is a monument to PC-Prog idiocy and incompetence.
Kent Clizbe, studiously ignoring reality for 80 years. The UNESCO, United Nations Globalist intentions, are finally being exposed. The attempt to fool mother nature is in reality, the United Nations Environmental Program, against a “free Nation” ( sort of ). Marx-ISM, and the other manifestations of Socio-communism
are theories posing as facts. The Environmental crowd burns its own species to sell “fear” and removal of private property protections.
Winning comment, Earl T. Its ‘water harvesting’ in Permaculture vernacular.
Predatory & parasitic practices of modern/post-modern usurpers bring about the opposite of Earth as its Natural state of ‘Garden of Eden’.
Some wise people know how to foster & facilitate Nature’s boundless abundance in every climate including deserts.. but they’re not bullies forcing their practices on everyone else.
Wisdom is followed willingly… or not.
Permaculture; Greening the Desert gives hundreds – maybe thousands – of results
This is my favorite teacher
{ https://www.youtube.com/@DiscoverPermaculture/videos }
Cool…. I just mentioned rainwater harvesting & using greywater & have been doing them for almost 20 yrs now. I learned about them through Permaculture and eventually got my Permaculture Design Certificate. Even though it has a lot of great things to offer, I did observe some “leftist” attitudes that were disturbing & rubbed me the wrong way. I tried to talk about the things I was noticing but it fell on deaf ears… (I liked Toby Hemenway & got to see him speak a few months before he died.)
Most of the Middle Eastern countries use marine desal plants.
Texas has desal plants, but they use brackish groundwater, not sea water.
Interestingly, the brackish concentrate is injected into deep wells. Basically a super concentrated brine.
Sea water concentrate is disposed of by releasing the concentrate far out into the ocean.
Bottom line is that both processes create a toxic waste product.
https://www.texasdesal.com/desal-faqs/
Rainwater harvesting & proper use of greywater can help, I’ve done both for almost 20 yrs wherever I’ve lived (3 different states now). There are books & websites about both.
Quit making excuses for liberal incompetence. They didn’t have water in the fire hydrants.
No excuse for PC-Prog incompetence.
You build your house in a swamp, don’t be surprised when it gets wet.
You build your house on top of a tinderbox, don’t be surprised when it gets hot.
Southern California is a monument to PC-Prog idiocy and incompetence.
Arizona and Nevada are deserts. No problems there. Liberal incompetence is the root cause.
Plenty of problems – deliberately manufactured – in AZ… and solutions are ignored by the usurpers
{ https://permaculturenews.org/2014/10/11/discovering-oasis-american-desert/ }
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Tinder is right. Yesterday, about the time the Palisades fire was starting I was on a practice green (for golf) in Orange County with the wind blowing tree twigs all over. When I picked them up to clear a path they would just snap in two–from gently picking them up.
Just two comments to toss out into the either.
You mean it wasn’t worth it to spend nearly a TRILLION dollars for the F-35 Flying Turkey?
A plane that is an over-engineered “hangar Queen” and yet still needs $600 million in software upgrades to make it even fly semi-reliably???
It’s what the politicians in and out of uniform were told they wanted by the MIC.
I’ll take some more strike eagles please as a suitable sub.
The idea of allocating more organized resources to firefighting is a good one but……..politics would probably eff it up.
… and politics has caused a severe shortage of trained and qualified fire fighters. Fire fighters go through an enormous amount of training to launch, hence the mandatory 5 year notice when a fire fighter is planning to retire, or at least was the case with my friend the fire captain.
no. it will just become another corrupt roost for lazy sluggards and dei hires that want pay, bennies and retirement. more government is never the answer.
No, there is nothing like having local knowledge to lead firefighting teams. We do not need another federal agency to oversee local issues. Authority needs to return to local control and DEI Fire Chiefs need to be gone yesterday. The Ghost Ship Fire in Oakland that killed over 30 people and cost the city of Oakland taxpayers $33million dollars in civil suits was due to a DEI Fire Chief, Teresa Deloach Reed, the first African American woman to lead the fire department of a major U.S. city. Time to get back to merit and experience in firefighting.
and the mayor cut 20 million from the fire services (wanted to cut more), didn’t want to pay to have the reservoirs filled and she is hanging out in ghana while LA burns…..the new nero, she must be fiddling in ghana….
This is more the issue. Government mismanagement
Exactly, Karen Bass as Nero grifting a trip off the US and CA taxpayer while Rome burns.
I can’t imagine what these people are going through. Praying for all those in harm’s way.
Yep. Lost a home to fire… not pleasant at all.
I don’t watch TV but I’ll bet this is getting wall to wall coverage.
North Carolina floods not so much.
North Carolina was BEFORE the election which could only make Harris-Biden-Walz look bad. If this disaster had happened when PDJT was in office then they would have put media on every corner interviewing everyone just like they did when Bush the Younger was in charge during Hurricane Katrina.
Now it is AFTER the election and they need “weather related tragedies” to distract from any good that PDJT is doing, any bad that Biden-Harris are doing, and discussing what a failure that last 4 years have been.
Motive
Opportunity
Means
Arson
Timed for Santa Ana winds
Who lit the fire?
Who do they work for?
Biden to send $1B to Gavin for Fed Aid?
Of course Biden will send even more aid to CA. Newsome is an adopted son of one of the Getty’s.
Shhh, be quiet please! The arsonist(s) might get the Presidential Medal of Freedom before FJB leaves office.
I hope everyone escapes with their lives. They can worry about the blame game later, and armchair experts can hash it all out until the end of time about what exactly went wrong and why it’s all the democrats’ fault. For now, I would prefer to not hear stories of people and their animals getting burnt alive.
exactly.
Sorry the truth hurts
Yep. Lost our self-built first home to fire in 2003… our female cat at the time, “thumped” up and down the stairs to wake me up in time to get out…(she didn’t come back for over a week) the sliding door (daylight basement) fell out of the casement as I scrambled out… large fire truck couldn’t make it up our steep hill, so, a lost cause. In 2015, fire came within 10 or 15 feet of our second self-built home. Those were ‘unpleasant’ times. Truly hope no lives are lost in this/these fires.
Glad you got your cat back.
it just sucks..
Nolte : SoCal Hydrants Run Out of Water As Devastating Wildfires Spread
article link…
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/01/08/nolte-socal-hydrants-run-out-of-water-as-devastating-wildfires-spread/
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and now there are 4 raging fires !
pathetic and tragic
Water was cut off in Maui too.
I see 3 fires. Do you know where the 4th is?
Hurst, Palisades, Eaton and . . .
the Woodley Fire…
Bad, bad, bad.
Look at the fires scattered across the area shown in the link below.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14262029/hollywood-actor-palisades-fire-house-burnt-devastation-insurance-policy.html
About halfway down. I can see 11 fires in that area, some are raging, some are smaller, but if the winds keep up, LA may be hoping it falls into the ocean — just to put out the fires.
Edison has turned the power off to 83,000 homes for preventative reasons. . .
5 fires now.
L.A. has more cars per capita than any other city in the world. Traffic gets jammed up with the littlest incident. More the reason to keep a dirt bike with a go-bag attached, gassed up and ready to go when the roads are blocked.
I’ve been all over those hills on a little Hodaka Ace 100, there are plenty of ways out besides Topanga Canyon and PCH.
any news the fire started from an electric car charging? /s
I’m now up in State of Jefferson, way up north. I’ve got a 4×4 Honda just for getting us out of anything.
During the fires in the Santa Cruz mountains we cut a road up our mountain so we could get to the ridge and see where the fire was.
It was a previous pony express trail that washed out and became a seasonal creek, but it gave us another escape route. PGE ended up using it, as it saved them about a mile driving this tank like vehicle down the street.
A long time ago I had a little Yamaha 200. I used to ride down there in Stunt canyon and all over the hills. I got pegged by a car coming home on PCH in traffic….at least she was cute!
Modoc?
I know this may get alot of nasty replies. Throw them at me. Ive been on this site for years. But, something to consider. We are rightfully noting the awful forestry management practices in California (no deadfall removal and no controlled burns). But also noting how people build in historically naturally dry tinderbox areas. But they like their picturesque views. Their million dollar views.
Now, let’s look at western North Carolina mountains and Helene. What is the difference between people building on a California mountain side for the beautiful views and someone building beside a cute babbling mountain stream (with beautiful mountain views) that 99.999% of the time you can walk across in shorts and not even get your shorts wet?
Sure, we can poke fun at California policies but lets not throw stones in a glass house.
Where I take issue is that WNC is not in a regular hurricane zone. That’s the difference. Their event was not normal. Fires in CA are regular events.
Agree!
WNC is not in a regular hurricane zone
nonsense
Caribbean hurricanes may most frequently hit Mexico, Texas, Florida, but very many of them then get directed up the eastern seaboard, whether offshore or over land
One of my earliest hurricane memories was Donna (I think) in 1960 or so, our area got torrential rains and our local 5o-yard wide creek was over-capacity, with water level all the way up to the bottom of the bridge over it (about a 20-ft above base level rise)
This was in southeast Pennsylvania, on a train branch line out of Philly
“not in a regular hurricane zone” doesn’t mean it never happens
Totally disagree.
The western mountains of NC are hardly hurricane country.
I lived through hurricane Donna, many subsequent hurricanes, all family members still own the east coast, including me on an island.
Nimrodman – shame on you for twisting my words. I never said’ “not in a regular hurricane zone” doesn’t mean it never happens”.
If that’s the comment you want to add to the conversation, go ahead, but don’t attibute words to me that I never said.
I stand by my comment – “WNC is not in a regular hurricane zone”, because it’s true.
You might consider becoming a hurricane buff by following Mike’s Weather Page, Reed Timmer Extreme Meteorologist, Meteorologist Denis Phillips Tampa, Force Thirteen, Tropical Tidbits, innumerable hurricane storm chasers….the list goes on.
Owning a condo on an island on the FL east coast has made me an amateur hurricane buff after my interest was peaked in my youth in Pompano Beach.
WNC is hardly hurricane country. Shame on you.
Erroneous assumption that the people in NC were wealthy. Lot of manufactured homes demolished. An estimated 126,000 homes are gone, whether manufactured or not. And let’s not forget all that quartz and lithium.
WNC was engineered as a land grab for mineral wealth. The framework was set up well in advance!
SoCal was also set up. Likely as a distraction from the Diddy revelations, which will be disgusting!
Now that I hear the Diddy home (enclave) was directly in the fire zone…
…my inner Suspicious Cat just twitched her ears…
Directed arson anyone?
CALIFORNIA for the win….FIRE, MUDSLIDE, EARTHQUAKE, TSUNAMI,CRIME, water regs, & Newsome….. oh and most voters outside of Orange county….
You’re 100% correct. Poor forest management is a critical component. But if you choose to live in a forested area then your risk of fire is much higher. Furthermore if you live in a forested area that is knowingly using bad foresting management then your doubly taking a huge risk.
SERIOUS CRITICISM of stupid use of precious resources for social engineering and being absent in time of need is hardly “poking fun”!!!
Two hundred fifty years ago that kind of piss-poor decision-making would have earned British public officials tar and feathering, if not outright hanging!
Did you not learn anything other than the happy 4th of July myths about the American Revolution???
I forget exactly just when this was in the news….but 10-20 years ago maybe…there was talk of ‘taxing’ those million dollar views, in either New Hampshire or Maine…or maybe Vermont.
way way out in Africa …
WATCH : Gavin Newsom Thanks LA Mayor Karen Bass, Away In Africa, For Help By Phone During Fires
article link…
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/01/08/watch-gavin-newsom-thanks-l-a-mayor-karen-bass-away-in-africa-for-help-by-phone-during-fire/
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far out, man
“far out, man” LOVE IT
Where are the underground bunkers in these luxury homes, safe rooms, etc.?
One would assume they are are – wait for it – “underground.”😎
Unless these underground bunkers have an independent air supply that will last for several days, they would be a death trap
I continue to question the effectiveness of the agency heads who rush to the podium during these events and drone on and on slapping themselves on the back.
Much the theme isn’t it?
I’ve been on the “inside” of those government boondoggle events!
Monthly award banquents which in the end, meant absolutely nothing! DISGUSTING!!!
Never a mention of low reservoirs due to woke Newscum policies.
FTA: Environmental rules designed to protect imperiled fish in the Sacramento-San Joaquin River Delta have ignited anger among a group of bipartisan lawmakers, who say too much of California’s stormwater is being washed out to sea instead of being pumped to reservoirs and aqueducts.
This is a Jan 2023 article.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-01-20/anger-flares-as-california-stormwater-washes-out-to-sea
Thanks. I recalled that issue and but didn’t save the article. Thanks for posting the link.
… trillions of gallons of water and 95 pct or more goes out to sea rather than to reservoirs and aqueducts.
So maybe they saved the fish, but the fire hydrants were dry. Just another example of Kalifornia’s far left politics. Sad.
Removed Kalamth river dam is going to be found to be detrimental to California agriculture, flood control and precious water for other things…like fire suppression.
maybe Biden will give FEMA presidential medals before he leaves office.
Newsom fiddles while LA burns.
Enviro mental waco carma.😳🌲
The people imposing the stupid – unnecessarily destructive – policies on any region aren’t “environmentalists”… they’re predatory & parasitic usurpers pretending/claiming to be ‘saving the planet’… and who know/care *zero* about the actual needs of Humans/animals/planet required to thrive.
Discernment reveals the gaslighters in ‘office’ & positions of authority…. and also reveals that they get there by fraudulent means in the first place… rigged elections at every level are at the core of bad policies that foster preventable damage, destruction, maiming & deaths.
Wolves in sheeps’ clothing… aren’t what they say they are.
So, maybe don’t paint “enviro(n)mental”ists with such a broadly negative brush.
Just sayin’.
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Some hateful liberals gloated over the destruction of Florida due to hurricanes in recent years.I would hope that our side is better than that. As for me, it breaks my heart to see these images and videos. I lived in the LA area for many years long ago. It was a happy time in an era where CA was not the mess it is in now. Yes there are issues with the terrible policies of the super-majority Democrat Communist government in power in CA. Yes there are issues with the indoctrinated “Useful Idiots” who support them. Evil has found a home in CA. But there are also a lot of conservatives in CA and a lot of Godly people. Not everyone has the funds or the ability to relocate. Unfortunately our elections are loaded with fraud, thanks to the pro-fraud election protocols Gavin Newsom pushed through the state legislature as soon as he beat his recall. (probably by fraud because everyone I know on both sides of the aisle despises him here.)
I for one, would rather focus my energy on prayer that out of these tragic stories, many will find the Lord, many will open their eyes to what they have been supporting in CA, (their own destruction) and they will change their views. Perhaps, just as the country turned around and elected Donald Trump is an historic landslide (too big to rig), the same may one day happen in CA. Perhaps President Trump will be able to reign in the ruthless intentions of Gavin Newsom with federal intervention. God Bless America.
There aren’t enough upvotes on the entire internet for your fine post, Just sayin’.
I appreciate it so very much.
God bless you.
I weep for my beloved home state.
Ca used to have a large forest fire dept. When they weren’t busy with fires they would clear underbrush. They even recruited homeless people and trained them for a career. There were far less fires out of control back then(also less population). Over the years the liberals took over and constantly cut these fire fighting resources. Then the enviro wackos lobbied for the underbrush to be left alone.
When I was traveling in Montana and Wyoming I saw piled up underbrush in the summer. A park ranger told me they burn them in the winter when snow covered everything. They were some of the unburned forest that I saw.
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I personally told someone (whose name is now instantly recognized) back in 2008 that when driving through eastern AZ, one could always tell if they were on reservation land when they saw the stacks of raked dry vegetation ready for a controlled burn . . .
I have somewhere an aerial picture of the border between US gubmint land and a reservation, where before a large wildfire the reservation had kept their forest thinned and the gubmint land hadn’t been thinned. The gubmint land was black toothpicks, the reservation land had a few dead trees but the rest were green. It was very striking.
We logged a few years ago (sanitation and thinning cut) for this very reason.
Most “Environmentalists” want people to die, it’s blatant by now. It’s darkly humorous to see these “progressives” talk about “Climate Change” like most people talk about crime, except that crime is real. They will tell you fires happen because “you did not fully embrace climate change mitigation programs.” It’s the same template as “your car got stolen because you voted to defund the police.” The latter statement is true, though.
It is true that fires are a fact of life there, but it is not enough of an excuse. If there is going to be development near these areas – the lands must be treated like farms – maintained, wide defense areas, and cleared of fuel – that has deliberately been cut – dare I say planned IMO.
So what’s Kamela doing? Probably left the country like her boss.
This is so horrific. 😓🙏🏻
You can bet FEMA is already there passing out $$$
Resurfaced video of Trump warning Gavin Newsom about forest fire management as residents demand resignation
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14263119/trump-warns-gavin-newsom-forest-management-california-wildfires-video.html
President-elect Donald Trump had previously warned California Governor Gavin Newsome that he needed to manage the state’s forests better to prevent fires.
In a visit to The Golden State in November of 2018, the then President Trump warned ‘you’ve got to take care of the floors’.
In 2021 Newsom signed a bill directing over $15 billion to combat wildfires, drought and other climate challenges facing California.
That climate package dedicated nearly $1 billion exclusively to help prevent wildfires, after the two most destructive on record happened within one year of each other.
Out of the top 20 most destructive wildfires in the state, 15 have happened since 2015 according to the Department of Forestry and Fire Protection.
Republicans at the time criticized the spending because it did not include money for water storage projects, like building new reservoirs.
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ONLY $1 billion of the $15 billion went to prevent wildfires! $14 billion to “other” climate challenges!! ….
California needs forensic audit more than $$$.
He could totally stop CA’s federal funding for not managing the forests appropriately – I hope he does it…
any Federal property damaged in this most recent of many passively/actively manufactured event(s) justifies the action.
DOGE job 1 hopefully is ‘stop funding criminal stupidity’.
“… after the two most destructive on record happened within one year of each other….”
Both showed evidence of DEW origin… 2 interviews with a forensic arborist:
{ https://www.youtube.com/@TheHealthyAmericanPeggyHall/search?query=fire%20forensic }
He has also seen to it that over 100 dams that impounds millions of gallons of storm and snow runoff were destroyed.
WT??!!! That’s so criminal, I don’t even have the words to express my disgust, he should be charged for something…
Governor Gavin Newscum refused to sign the water restoration declaration put before him that would have allowed millions of gallons of water, from excess rain and snow melt from the North, to flow daily into many parts of California, including the areas that are currently burning in a virtually apocalyptic way. He wanted to protect an essentially worthless fish called a smelt, by giving it less water (it didn’t work!), but didn’t care about the people of California. Now the ultimate price is being paid. I will demand that this incompetent governor allow beautiful, clean, fresh water to FLOW INTO CALIFORNIA! He is the blame for this. On top of it all, no water for fire hydrants, not firefighting planes. A true disaster!
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/113793724958051185
This is a true disaster made by Governor Gavin Newscum and the brain dead people of California. Maybe this will be a wakeup call…
Surely criminal charges can be brought against Newscum. Absolutely breached his fiduciary duty.
One silver lining is that this evil man should now be, if our national tectonic shift continues, completely shut out of the running for any future Presidential election.
🙏🏻
Not only any Presidential election, but ANY political office, anything resembling politics.
All Democrats are imbeciles, even the ones with an ivy league education. I’ve never seen a Democrat competently run a city, state or country.
School doesn’t make people smart – political inclinations notwithstanding.
May a pox be on those of you using these fires to play politics. Thousands of homes lost. Lives lost. The mjority of houses lost are not rich people… and even if so, we as a people who voted for Trump, are better than that.
Respectfully, the fires, homes lost and most important – lives lost – have everything to do with politics.
Of course our hearts are with the victims and our righteous anger is justifiably aimed at the politicians
May a Pox be on the LA City and County Governments that allowed this tragedy to happen, and on Governor Newscum, and on the California voters that instituted the California Clown Show that allowed this to happen. People elected President Trump to stop the kind of lunacy that controls California. Thank us.
It’s California politics that made this tragedy.
How long before Newscum has a press conference and blames ‘climate change’ for this tragedy? …
I should hope everyone that watches it says “No, it’s not, it’s your flagrant incompetence and non-existent fiduciary duty, and disregard for human life”.
Prayers for all people and animals in harms way. Prayers also for all fire fighters working to save lives. Most of our family lives south of LAX, so not in immediate danger. However, the winds will blow smoke and particulate matter every where which will cause respiratory issues for everyone.
Yes, it is a tragedy. Yes, it is right to criticize Democrats for voting for their literal destruction.
Now is the time to help the people.
I do have compassion for the innocent animals and people, but I can’t help but think of Ssodom and Gomorrah.
I thought of that too. Instead of sulfur, it appears that DEI killed them.
Maui
People would be shocked how many fires are intentionally started by illegal migrants . Of course the MSM will never mention that .
“People entering the U.S. illegally from Mexico are believed responsible for more than half of the wildfires throughout the country .
Did Newsom send a bunch of firefighting equipment to Ukraine?
LA Fire Dept passed a “racial equity plan”
There is supposed to be water in fire hydrants?..I did not know that 🙁
Just looked at a map of California and Los Angeles in particular.
There is another fire that started, called the Hurst Fire. Directly north of San Fernando.
i’ve counted 4 Spots where FIRE FIGHTING AIRCRAFT Have Been DEPLOYED
Sierra Madre
La Canada Flintridge
San Fernado
Brentwood
CAL FIRE
C-130 ( one of ” my ” Old Planes converted )
BAE 146 s
H60 s
AS149 s
the Quebec s Are Down with their Canadair Seaplanes
DC9
Fix Wing are working out of Lancaster
FULL of Air Traffic TODAY –
Smiley posted this link somewhere else on this thread. It shows where all the fires are in real time.
https://www.frontlinewildfire.com/california-wildfire-map/
Wonderful news hearing about all the planes being used to fight these fires.
Is this a completely crazy idea…
….Could 47 issue an executive order that CA gets no more federal funds until they set up seawater desalinization, proper brush management in forests, and start employing the death penalty for convicted arsonists? And any public official who blocks the measures is automatically out of a job?
Just kinda dreaming here, obviously. But innocent people are dying from the DEI.
Some accused Nero of purposely burning Rome, to enable him to build a palace for himself over the ashes.
“fire fighters have “given up” on anything north of I-10 and west of the 405″
“There are a lot of working class neighborhoods between the 405 in West LA and the city of Santa Monica which is more upscale”
geez.
Lessons learned from disasters…
Lets face it…’government’ is not going to help. Be proactive and prepared. Americans are a resilient breed but need to survive, first and foremost, to claim that ‘resiliency’. And one wants to avoid panic and its associated anxiety.
citizens should do a “Threat Assessment” for their families and properties…or where they live…what are the most likely
threats that could impact daily life as you know it?
…and include “Preparation Necessary” to preserve lives and property. Have simple “Go bags” ready if evacuation could be a possibility. Considering evacuations…have a plan and a few back up plans of where to go and how to get there. Crates and leashes for Fido and Fluffy.
Lots of serious non conspirator type prep sites out there, for ideas…
Reminder …. $BILLIONS in Federal Grant money sent to CA specifically for water and land management … that Governor Newsome and Mayor of LA bragged in the media were re-allocated (legally) to other pet projects and causes …. NOT involving land and water management.
Then there is also likely the Federal Money in grants for fire fighting that may also have been (legally) spent elsewhere.
The right question needs to be asked about preparation for this type of emergency. There questions are not necessarily competence, preparation nor caring …. but …. where did the funds go to enable any form of readiness and prevention??? …. and who did the reallocation??? We know the answers but the questions still need to be publicly asked and answers stated.
Again points to the actual primary issue the Government Efficiency effort needs to target …. the rules written into spending BILLS (Laws) passed by congress as well as actual budget lines.
There was NO Money to plan and prepare.
There is no money to fight the fire.
…and defund the police ensures there is no law enforcement to support evac nor protection.
The money was all spent on efforts related illegal immigrants and pet political projects.
The typical democrat two step in action … create a disaster … then solve the same disaster for political gain.
And now this, reports of looting:
https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/fires-rage-across-los-angeles-county-forcing-thousands-to-evacuate-their-homes
5,000 acres last report, none dare call it arson
Thats one way to remove all the Kamala Harris yard signs.
Ah yes- The vaunted Environmental-ism! The picking of winners & losers in the course of human events. Until the unholy
alliance of Al Gore and President “under the desk” these issues never cropped up. The Tillamook Burn was a wakeup call, and the professionals in the Timber industry, kept the bounds cleared, as did cattlemen and sheep herders.
In the lexicon of the animal rights freaks, and the tree spiker’s is the word “humanism” meaning all species over mankind.
Having been on a specialty fire team, in the 60’s, none of this is either necessary or desired. The mentally ill promoters of
socio-communism, especially Maurice Strong, and Al Gore along with all the other “ISM” crowd, are like lemming and the cliff obsession.
Land control by the UN, who collectively despise Private Property, other than theirs of course, have sold the lies for years.
As an old Fed. analyst, a couple of examples for you:
Some historical quotes to gain proper understanding of Orwells Theory of Doublespeak & Doublethink concerning the deception in the political language. Orwell noted:
Doublespeak: language that deliberately obscures, disguises, distorts, or reverses the meaning of words.
Doublethink: is to know and to not know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which canceled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic.
Quote: “The common enemy of humanity is man. In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is humanity itself.” — Club of Rome, premier
Quote: “No matter if the science of global warming is all phony… climate change provides the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world.”- Christine Stewart, former Canadian Minister of the Environment.
Quote: “The data doesn’t matter. We’re not basing our recommendations on the data. We’re basing them on the climate models” Prof. – Chris Folland, Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research.
The fools will burn the very species, killing millions of animals, birds, and so many other species including man, to gain an objective that is a THEORY, no facts needed.
This is a link from 1012. Exposure by Kathleen MArquardt, who was in the 1992-4 fight to kill the UN Treaty that Gore & Clinton later slipped around the Senate grifter class: https://newswithviews.com/Marquardt/kathleen103.htm
Maui, California, Texas increased flooding, etc. etc.
By the way, in 1994, the RNC put out a Resolution condemning the Agenda 21, as it is named, and I have copy, and it is online. Gain link and send to the “Puzzle Palace” ( your Rep., as we are siloed )
Bless you all, and you know, it is really so unimaginably sad, that even the in your face action in this period, people voted for – OBiden and the stay behind crew.
More photos from my house. The one on the right is burning out of control.
Please stay safe. Prayers coming your way.
Looks like it would normally be a beautiful view.
Just received an email from my friend, requesting prayers for her daughter’s family whose home is nearly the only one standing in their neighborhood in Pacific Palisades.
Thank you for sharing; God be with you.
🙏🏻
Biden is on site with Newson on his side.
The fire will be put out soon.
He stayed in Cali? I read that he turned around and left
With the winds today, not likely. This is going to go on for days at least.
Is Biden tying to pee on it like he done with everything else in the last 4 years?
Everyone with an agenda will use this fire to further their agenda. But the simple fact remains that this isn’t about global warming, fuel load, where they build homes, or even arsonists. These fires every year and about every 3-5 years a terrible fire with hundreds of homes lost is about one single factor; the winds. This isn’t going to change. No matter what steps they take or how much money they spend this will happen every year because they get these winds every year. The arsonists know this and they know where and when to start fires. This is a risk for terrorism too. AND it will be followed by Spring floods and landslides, as it always will be. And just as likely there will be a few earthquakes thrown in for good measure too with a constant 10%-20% chance it will be a big one.
Truth!
Isn’t this why in times past, forest management would do controlled burns BEFORE the Santa Ana winds came through?
YES!! And now the insane Democrats won’t allow preventative burns. I used to live in So CA for over 20 yrs & left for good in 2009 as I was starting to see bad…. signs.
I forgot to mention this part “…as Democrat legislators refuse to properly manage underbrush.”
From: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/01/socal-evacuations-underway-as-massive-772-acre-wildfire/
And silly Newsom was having water released from rivers to flow to the ocean. One reason the fire hydrants have so little water pressure.
Another thing that’s irked me to no end, just saw this on TGP:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/01/biden-announces-500-million-ukraine-as-california-burns/
Biden also sent massive amounts of excess fire equipment to Ukraine
Yeah, I just posted a link from TGP about LA firefighters & Biden donating to Ukraine.. So CA has way too many fires, big & small, to be doing that. Much wiser to hang on to it because they’ll be needing it at some point.
Same. Left in 2007.
Bullship. Remember the Az. fire, where 17 hotshots died, trying to save the town from a raging forest fire?
They failed, and the fire raced through the town, fanned by the winds that every large fire creates (they actually create their own weather SYSTEM!) and in aireal before and after photos you can see that those houses with a good defensive zone, and using fire resistant outer surface materials were unscathed, whereas those that had no defensive zone, and wood siding or cedar shingles were GONE.
You can build houses designed to withstand storm surges, and you can design houses to withstand raging fires,…you can even design houses to withstand tornadoes (underground, like the tornado shelters, right?) but because of aesthetics, people don’t WANT to.
What good are building codes, if they don’t impose some common sense?
Most were built before the codes or otherwise not enforced.. fire insurance companies left homeowners in droves as most wouldn’t do what was necessary. Add in CA more interested in illegals and not things to prevent or stop.. ie draining most of snowpack to the ocean.
I was just thinking, fire shutters (like hurricane shutters) to cover windows and attic vents.
Defensible space is a law but most people don’t do it. I know enforcement (inspections) is kinda hit and miss depending on the county you reside and/or jurisdiction (what fire department you have protecting your house).
https://www.fire.ca.gov/dspace
Yeah, thanks, I forgot to mention that, the building codes are messed up, in addition to the brush should be managed year-round, but they aren’t, & not just before a fire..
Check out the video AmaraGrace posted below that talks about how many of these fires may have been electric fires that burn along or under the ground and then come up through trees that hold a lot of water, or fires where the burn takes place where metal items are embedded in wood. Water and metal conduct electricity.
I know about clearing trees, shrubs, leaves and debris away from around our homes as a safety precaution for fires, but dang, if the government is dropping metal particles on our homes and the ground around them, then starts fires that travel through metal and water, that’s a whole new enchilada in making sure our homes won’t burn in a “wildfire.”
I know a man who owns heavy equipment in CA that he contracts for fire suppression. He is on call waiting to be directed to whatever fire. He told me once, “you know how California puts out fires?”, “They pour money on it“.
He is doing quite well.
Extremely dry winter, not a single drop of water in Southern California this year! + very strong Santa Ana winds blowing from the deserts.
Maybe that’s why most of SoCal is desert, and has been for hundreds of years. Where I live in NorCal, we’ve had lots of rain so far this year and our reservoirs are nearly full.
We could use more reservoirs in NorCal. Every year when the snow melts in the Sierras they dump excess into the Russian River and into the ocean. Every year.
The Romans had aquaducts and canals 2000 years ago. You would think someone would send excess water to SoCal or save it for irrigation in the San Joaquin Valley instead of dumping it into the ocean. If the engineers would copy the Roman method everyone would call them genius.
Except that there was record rainfall for two years prior to summer of last year. It rained heavily last winter into April here.
Why did they cancel fire insurance for these homes months ago?
When will the professor who taunted an emotional James Woods with “It’s karma ” be fired?
There are some corrupt, nasty people in this world. I don’t wish harm on others. They will receive their judgement at a later date.
It seems CA did not allow the insurance companies to raise premiums, so they bailed completely.
I wonder how much money was spent on those premiums for decades?
My son, who is a Fireman/EMT in central Oregon, also has a crew that contracts fighting forest fires. I asked him if he and his team were going down, and he said it was a shit show with all the trees, etc and brutal winds….He opted out of putting his team in Harm’s way.
There is CalFire in California which is a great group of professional firefighters.
My son did Helicopter drop, where they drop the crew ahead of fires to make breaks to stop the spread of the wild fire.
These men and women learned from their experience from the Santa Rosa fires a few years ago, but we are in Nor Cal. Every fire is different but they all are dangerous. I assume Calfire is in SoCal as well.
There are also Fire Stations in every town, not part of Cal Fire.
Apparently there is no water in the fire hydrants in Pacific Palisades. That is real incompetence on the part of the Fire Chief who is DEI, and focused on her Lesbian lifestyle.
The heavy winds do not allow air support so far.
Also, Newsom should be governing not running for President and campaign money. He is such a jerk. He is always behind, never prepared for a crisis.
Good forestry would really make a difference.
Another likely reason for no water pressure: residents who turned on sprinkler systems or trained hoses on their roofs before evacuating in hope of saving their property. The water system couldn’t possibly maintain sufficient pressure in the hills with that kind of demand placed upon it.
A handy excuse.
Considering fire insurance was cancelled out of the blue for these homes months ago– in combination with lack of water — hmmm… Suspicious cat.
Is this Pacific Palisades property in the planning stages of being acquired like Maui & the Carolinas?
Property in the Palisades owned by the very wealthy already, not like Maui or Western North Carolina. It is a beautful location, near a sprawling city but no mineral/drilling value.
I do believe you 100% correct.
Prevention is second to capitalizing and profiting from a crisis.
The Democrat motto.
I live in Central Oregon. Glad to know we have a hero close by!
The terrorist leaders have instructed to do this exact thing and Mother Nature has no hand in these man made fires
Cities run by liberals… will use this as a way to limit re-development and bolster the City coffers.
They will grab cash by imposing humongous building permit fees and changing building codes to a more “green” type of home… that the City Council’s will need to approve. All in the name of the “previous building codes” were a main source of the fire and will need to be worked to suit their green agenda. They will also grab land that these homes sat on for the “public good”…to be used for public housing.
Cities affected will receive billions and will sit on it as a way to offset damaged property values…
Never let a crises go to waste…
Look at how “recovery” in Maui is being managed. Property owners without access to their properties and banks and FEMA not responding the owners. Nothing being rebuilt.
It’s called Burn Back Better.
Watch how fast these well-to-do Dems get red pilled when they run smack into the sclerotic bureaucracy as they attemt to get permits to rebuild. This might be a tipping point for California.
Yes, but no water in the fire hydrants? Come on!!
The “endangered” snail darter fish is more important than a few hundred thousand humans…..
Trump addressed that very question in an interview with Joe Rohan. It’s shocking the incompetence of it’s governor!
I grew up in SoCal (Brentwood) and lived there and later in Westwood Village until marrying and moving to NY state. I saw so many fires near and far and yet never personally experienced what these residents are going through. Twice we had flames 1 canyon over and were keeping our property as wet as possible with my dad on the roof with the hose. I also remember walking in Westwood through at least 1″ of ash that was blown all the way from Malibu. Prayers for all those in the paths of these fires.
Democrats have completely disregarded responsible managing of their lands, squander state funds for their corruptions then turn to the rest of us for fed flood insurance, fed disaster relief and fed fire support. When are we all going to say “Enough”. Sorry for the losses the people sustain, but they keep voting the same corrupt people into office. It’s time to cut the apron strings.
Also don’t overlook natural disasters, namely fires, is how utilities can maintain profits and avoid losses not to mention insurers doing the same. EVERY fire has been precluded by insurers cancelling homeowner policies..