It is a very unfortunate situation any time you can easily spot manipulation that is taking place on behalf of hidden interests.
In this example today TPUSA was pushing the results of a poll from this past weekend.
Charlie Kirk and his organization claim that JD Vance won the straw poll of 1,600 attendees to the TPUSA event. However, as quickly identified, the only options presented to the audience were JD Vance, Marco Rubio, Tim Scott and Doug Burgum. Somewhat of a self-fulfilling presentation.
[SOURCE]
Why only four candidates? According to Charlie Kirk and his pollster Richard Baris, those are the final four as determined by them and media.
Something just didn’t smell right. Lots of media articles have other names including Kari Lake, Ben Carson, Vivek Ramaswamy, Lee Zeldin, Michael Flynn, Devin Nunes, Ron DeSantis and many more. So, what exactly was the agenda of TPUSA and by extension, Richard Baris.
Well, for his participatory role, it appears Richard Baris was only a tool who polled the audience based on names Charlie Kirk gave him. Then when you consider that Charlie Kirk had already publicly claimed J.D. Vance was the best choice for vice-president {SEE HERE}, the pre-selected names appeared to be chosen to create a specific outcome, ie “the illusion of choice.”
JD Vance won the TPUSA poll because Charlie Kirk wanted J. D Vance to win the poll. Richard Baris delivered the data to support it by using a pre-filtered candidate list that only included 4 names.
After being called out for the manipulative tactics, their attempts at justification ended up just being silly. [SEE HERE]. The narrative engineering fiasco would be embarrassing and shameful if the issues were not serious.
In the background we have Peter Thiel. In addition to having a lot of money to spend on organizations like TPUSA, Mr. Thiel also supports JD Vance. Thiel is the primary funder of JD Vance, and unfortunately Thiel is also an FBI informant {SEE HERE}.
Oddly, Senator J.D Vance was a vitriolic Never Trumper throughout his time in politics (exceptional hatred for Trump), until Vance had a sudden and mysterious change of heart, which coincided with his financial backer, billionaire Peter Thiel, becoming an FBI operative.
Watch Video in Tweet:
THE REAL JD VANCE 🐍 #NeverVance pic.twitter.com/QomoynPijq
— Chief Trumpster (@ChiefTrumpster) June 12, 2024
In essence, just as Thiel started working for the FBI, then J.D Vance started to support President Trump…. Coincidence? Go figure.
Now, I tell you this because the unknown question is whether Peter Thiel has funded, or is funding, the TPUSA efforts of Charlie Kirk. Mr. Kirk has sent out tweets praising Mr. Thiel; but neither of them will respond directly to the question.
Follow the money 💰
Therein lies the answer. pic.twitter.com/DmAOlOepZH
— Trump 2024 – America First (@TrumpMAGADONIAN) June 17, 2024
Why does all of this matter?
Because I’m sick and tired of this manipulation, and the background billionaires that operate the opaque machinery… and the people who take their money to do their bidding, while pretending they don’t. And who gets screwed? US, THE VOTERS! Wash – Rience – Repeat
Vivek Ramaswamy and J.D. Vance were college buddies, later funded by billionaire Peter Thiel who is BFF’s with billionaire Elon Musk. Beside their Big Tech relationship, what do Peter Thiel and Elon Musk have in common?…. DHS, IC and FBI activities.
We have already seen the history of placing a VP Mike Pence with Donald Trump just to undermine the MAGA agenda. Now we have an FBI informant, working with a political manipulation effort (TPUSA) to position his asset, JD Vance, into the Pence role for 2024.
And no one wants to admit this is happening, because it might be too uncomfortable to admit.
The bottom line is that this TPUSA poll was purposefully manufactured, created with specific names eliminated, to deliver a very specific outcome. That outcome may or may not matter to anyone; but it’s the manipulation that’s the point.
It is exhausting keeping track of all these fake pretenses, ulterior motives, financial schemes and billionaire agendas.
Go figure.
ps. Dr. Ben Carson or Harriet Hageman would be good considerations.
Personally, I’m not impressed with any of those four, nor am I much of a Charlie Kirk fan. He’s knocking anyone not 30 or younger.
Knocking anyone over 30? I’ve been listening closely a while now – don’t hear that.
<He’s knocking anyone not 30 or younger.>
Obviously, Charlie Kirk’s favorite movie is ‘Logan’s Run’ 🙂
Wordman, I have referenced that film many times of late. It often feels like that’s our world these days, waiting for our termination light to switch on!
And I’ll take the time now to tell you how much I appreciate your puns. Always a part of our home growing up, a most sophisticated form of humor!
TPUSA is modeled on a New Age movement/human transformation movement/new age Churchian personality cult dimension
Notice how TPUSA and Charlie Kirk are getting love letter writeups by NPR and NY Times and other fake news for ballot harvesting operations?
Charlie Kirk and TPUSA recently raised 100m dollars for 1000 election ballot harvesters, I really doubt they are seeing the money.
Charlie Kirk has a weird personal life
Charlie is at the center of Influencer Cartel that includes many of the usual suspects
While Main Street USA is getting completely freaking crushed, Charlie and co throw these huge spectacular in your face extravagant parties
Why is TPUSA getting positive pieces from NPR?
Influencer cartels online are paid, they are crisis actors embedded in the MAGA movement
its all Culture Wars for Charlie
any news on China and the City of London and big tech?
any news on pool parties with Peter Thiel and his boy friends? one of whom fell from a window a little while back
weird
focussing on Vance, what did he do? who is he?
goes to fight war on terror as some mil IC in country office job for brass?
becomes a non woke VC in tech and travels the country in a van and a guitar like a non acid Ken Kesey
writes a book about white rage and becomes a spokesman for disenfranchised poor whites, because he knows so much about them being working for military brass in field offices and travelling the country in a bus as a non woke venture capitalist
becomes a big face in fake news and Fox News
bingo becomes a Senator
now becomes a VP pick
can anyone say Corn?
my guess he is not his own man, so many things have just happened for him
what big tech company did he VC? he has had a remarkable series of successes without much success
weird he is the VP pick pushed by Kirk who also seems to have a charmed life
https://www.npr.org/2024/06/07/nx-s1-4992905/trump-arizona-turning-point-campaign
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/04/us/politics/trump-turning-point-action-chase-vote.html
https://theintercept.com/2023/03/23/peter-thiel-jeff-thomas/
So TPUSA is founding by Kirk and a guy 50 years his senior
totally normal origin story, echoes of Peter Thiels career getting patronized by older bachelors and next thing you know, billionaire status
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/03/the-21-year-old-becoming-a-major-player-in-conservative-politics/451110/
In a recent discussion with Kirk and grassroots election integrity activists concerned about TPUSA becoming the GOP ballot harvesting operation of choice and pushing “bank your vote” which is essentially ballot harvesting
when confronted with the reality that bank your vote signals the margin needed to cheat for the UniParty Kirk called the grassroots activist a “fed”
I could also point out that Thiel is a founder of Paypal, Facebook and Palantir
all have deep links into the deep state and make most of their money selling data and programs to the Fed
Palantir ran the UK Covid response, all of it
think about that
Fun that the worlds biggest cashed up Libertarian is a federal contractor and runs a company that implements Covid Lockdowns in the worlds crade of Liberty
now he is pushing an Influencer Cartel around Vance
lets get something straight
the ethics and the standards in “influencer” ecosystems is wild west
influencers get paid for editorial, they don’t declare it, they get pay for media spots, equivalent to vendor tracks or advertorials
MAGA Inc is just as bad, perhaps worse than the left
sad, creates a huge opportunity for the opposition, for them to be compromised, for them to cave when the going gets tough
gotta wonder if the new MAGA elite will be any better than the old Woke elite?
on some cultural issues maybe, but in terms of business practice, ethics, transparency, I am not optimistic
out with the woke oligarchy faction, in with the MAGA Inc/cultural MAGA oligarchy faction
if all these MAGA Inc influencers are compromised or corrupt how will they take on the City of London and China? They wont, they will just get bought out
do better guys and gals, do a lot better
Thiel i s NOT a founder of facebook. He is of Paypal which works to this day.
Log cabin RINOs
You forgot Yale, a real outsider.
I only voted for him as Senator because he was endorsed by President Trump.
Don’t really trust him.
Never read his book because so many people with political aspirations seem to write these kinds of books.
Didn’t Tim Scott say the election wasn’t rigged?? Can’t go with anyone who says that nonsense.
You do know that the Constitution requires an age of 35 or older, right?
Duh.
he does good work but i must admit charliekirk has a certain skeeviness about him…..++we
ve reached the point in this movement where true blue patriots(who arent out to line their own pockets and further their own brand) are few and far between….and that is a darned shame considering the work trump is putting in…i saw those old vance tapes and they aren
t exactly flattering...how do you go from praising mitt romney and vilifying trump(at a level that would make george conway blush) to trumps v.p. pick?….that`s a tough one to square,imo…
Because he won’t be the pick. President Trump will pick his Vice President, not Charlie Kirk or Peter Thiel!!!
can anyone say MAGA Inc Influencer Cartels?
MAGA Inc cannot be seen to celebrate the collapse of Main Street USA. Events like CPAC and Turning Point present an inspiring spectacle which contradicts the economic precariat of Main Street USA.
The MAGA critique of the UniParty Managerial Class was that they profited from Managing the Decline.
From Main Street USA, from my perspective, it looks a lot like MAGA Inc is now also Profiting from Commenting the Decline.
https://www.dynamic.gop/p/284-gossip-to-self-government-his-story-to-history
Curious Cat’s alert attention.
I don’t particularly like Vance. Not even a little bit. It’s like someone put the likes of rubio, cruz and desantis into a blender and Vance is the slime that oozed out.
The base routinely falls in line for these shenanigans and while its disappointing, it’s far from surprising.
I appreciate you Sundance for having the patience to go on there and point these things out to the lemmings.
Could I have special permission to like this comment 100 times, most especially for the first paragraph?
There is only one in the entire country who when the time came to choose between the swamp
or MAGA she chose MAGA and was the only one to follow the constitution and the bill of rights
Governor Kristi Noem.
#TrumpNoem2024 because i want to win not just one election but the next one and the next one and really change America back to America the land of the Free.
Huh.
Most here concluded she attempted to but was blocked by her legislature.
Saved from her own bad instincts, she’s touting the restraint imposed on her.
All of Kristi Noems E.O. were urging people to follow common sense guidelines NOTHING was mandated.
I know because I live in South Dakota and was free to live free during covid in SD.
When i was at my other home in North Dakota I faced Jail if i broke the rules and that was under Gov. Doug Burgum who is likely to get a position with Trump but i haven’t heard a peep about dough burgum here at the treehouse (hmmm) let me tell you about him, he’s made is billions with his bestie Bill Gates and as soon as Biden was selected he jumped into the carbon bury scam with Jennifer Granholm and Pedo Joe Biden. He’s also anti Trump and MAGA in the real world.
but back to Kristi Noem and the misconceptions , even her E.O. for elderly and ppl with pre-existing conditions in two counties to stay home was a “suggestion” not a Mandate. it was COMMON SENSE and it was caring IMHO and it is the approach that all governors should have taken rather than be tin pot dictator wannabe’s as they were.
I would love Kristi Noem to be VP and President one day because she has proven to me she is a MAGA governor and we would be lucky to have her. I can’t think of one other governor i can say that about.
Kristi Noem had legislation in front of her to sign and she vetoed it. It would have gone a long way to stopping this “boys in girls sports ” crap at the outset. But she was afraid of lawsuits. She is an “empty suit” not a leader. In my opinion women are not suitable for governing. KN is a coward.
“women are not suitable for governing”
Margaret Thatcher and Indira Ghandi would disagree. So would I. Its the individual, not the gender, that determines suitability. I’m not a fan of Noem because of her NCAA gender policy but she is head and shoulders better than Joe Biden or Kamala Harris at governing.
Well, that is hardly praise, much less, an endorsement.
My little white terrier is head and shoulders better than Job-eee or Heartless.
Well, there is the “dog” incident. But if you really stop and think about it, just imagine the number of DC Swamp dwellers she could invite to the sand pit! Talk about draining the swamp!!!
Hardly a dog incident! Noem even wrote about it in her book with zero remorse. I would never trust a person that cruel, shall I say, even as a local dog catcher!
Well, if you live there then you should know that she is a Koch Bros acolyte.
I live here and and she is……she is no better than the other 3 twits we have at the helm
Please put down the bong honey……
Lol
Why would you trust a woman who is owned by the Koch Brothers?
show me a politician who has not taken money from someone. Even President Trump has taken “donor money” .. gasp! LOL
taking the money is not the issue , it’s the favors it buys, but what favors did their paltry sum, and in comparison to others it was indeed paltry. so what did it buy them from Gov. Noem? can you name any? I don’t see any in her actions as governor. I digress.
I suppose you will defend killing puppies, too.
Equating all “donors” with the Koch’s?
😃 😀 😄 😁 🤣
It’s the person from whom you take the money.
Nope. My wife and many other otherwise MAGA-friendly women were put off by her dog killing story. There’s really no coming back from that.
then you and your wife and many others have not learned to spot a fake smear campaign.
and are likely ignorant of what rural life was and is like.
when you are hundreds of miles from a town and there is but one vet for hundreds of miles you book your vet a year in advance for inoculations and hoof trimming. Many ranchers have learned to be their own vet for many things. I am certain that this dog was given every chance to change and be trained but had become dangerous to her children and ranch hands. You do not just give that dog away and a aggressive dangerous dog is never trust worthy or trainable. it’s not like Gov. Kristi Noem is a cruel person. I think that she made a decision that did not come easily, quickly or rashly. She was responsible and made a hard choice that needed to be made as have other ranchers in her situation over 100’s of years. Until you live hundreds of miles away from society you will likely not understand a thing i just said… but then I live in such a place am not ignorant of what it takes to live this life.
and lastly it’s precisely people who think like you or are led by the nose by fake news smears that will always vote your ignorance and keep giving us all a swamp president, congress man/woman and then complain about the swamp in office.
She would hijack the entire agenda with her poor judgment, and no matter how logical the decision was, it was still poor judgment.
Trump would spend the entire election defending the killing of puppies instead of more important issues like illegal immigration. What a waste.
It’s not that she put her dog down, a .22 to the head is hardly cruel or particularly uncommon, especially on a rural ranch. The cruel ones are those that dump a problem animal on a road 50 miles from home.
The problem is that she put it in her book at all. That was plain dumb, imnsho.
Truth
Living several states away from SD, I can only give my observations from afar. Up until Noem’s book was released recently, I classed her with other attractive Republican governors from the past, such as Bush (x2), Romney, Pence, etc. They all had their moments in the sun, and they all failed, for one reason or another. Perhaps I am wrong about Noem. Maybe she is the real deal. Or maybe she isn’t.
I have not read Noem’s book, but it seems to me that the dog and goat stories were entirely unnecessary. One does not talk about killing one of God’s creatures. I’m not disputing that the killing was necessary, only that she didn’t need to reveal the deeds to demonstrate her toughness.
I just want to give her a good schtuppin. That woman is gorgeous. VP? Nah.
She is not the real deal: My standard?:
She went from congressional candidate — appearing the genuine rural, and rural values young, earnest, and sincere “farm-girl” type and morphed into some “sweet young thing.” IOW, she ADOPTED the values of her colleagues: polished, perfectly coifed, and “attractive” to please, I suppose, her handlers and the MSM.
She quit being herself and decided that a more sensual appearance was her ticket to advancement.
I cannot countenance a woman who abandoned the outward signs of her humble, and genuine roots in order to court the sleazier elements of her new environment.
These big-city types, the cosmopolitans of her milieu are models of degeneracy and selfishness, not humility and seriousness.
My question is: Why did Gov Noem even utter the story about killing her dog? IMO, she should have known there would be a lot of criticism and even some outrage.
Deluded much?
Hardly.
Noem killed a puppy because, in her own words, it wouldn’t hunt. Just think what the Democrats and news media are going to do with that blunder. Not to mention the fact that some dogs like people just don’t have the killer instinct and would rather play. Couldn’t she find a home for the dog? The optics of this is horrendous and, honestly, it deserves to be horrendous!
you don’t have your story straight for one and that puppy was closer to “adult” at 18 months old.
it was vicious and untrainable.
would you rather she gave it away and it killed a small child?
honestly, it’s voters like you that will give us a swamp swimmer every time and then cry about it.
Respectfully, you espoused her several times and each time, the sentiment from various branches of the Treehouse raises a choir of ‘No thank you!’
so you have an issue with me not swimming along ignorantly just to get along with those that are wrong? LOL
right.
So you are saying that we are all ignorant about Kristi Noem?
Perhaps it is you who is lacking discernment?
Why isn’t Tullsi Gabard not on the conversation?
She’ll be Sec of Defense 😉🇺🇸
Head of the BOTOX division…..
I am asking the same question? I just got back from Hawaii, kinda strange I didn’t see any where Tulsi Gabbard’s new book! The media can’t stand her because she left the democrat party. Once you leave the democrat party you are labeled a traitor. The same thing with General Michael Flynn. He was once a democrat like Tulsi but once he saw that they were destroying America he left them. His new video sums it up. I like them both.
Back on Thiel, if I am not mistake he supported and funded Blake Masters in Arizona in Arizona’s last election. Blake lost and dropped out of sight. Now he is running against Abe Hamadene who is endorsed by President Trump. The Cindy McCain faction of the Republican party in Arizona might be behind this whole mess. I believe she is a staunch anti Trump person. My spidy sense agrees with Sundance. It doesn’t pass the smell test
allowing democrats who do not want to be as far left as “communist” but who are more center left instead into the conservative party is why we have RINO’s in the party and is what is wrong with the GOP.
NO – we have RINOS in the party because their God is money……
Tulsi is not dependably MAGA and she is a woman. not suitable for governing.
I generally don’t like to insult people, but jeez, you are begging for it.
Because she’s a leftist Dem, that’s why.
Both Trump and Reagan were “leftist” Dems before they became Republicans.
Reagan was once a hard-core union leader in Hollywood.
At worst, Gabbard is now center-right.
They were Dems, not leftists.
She is on Trump’s list. Just not a fav of the elite or “insiders” bucking to control ’28 prospects.
You know that how?
This was one of your weirder posts. I’m fine with JD Vance.
He was a rabid NeverTrumper in 2016.
I don’t want — or trust — ANYONE from the upper chamber.
think its only been 2 that became president,Jfk,obama.
You outed yourself!
I think Gray is related to Cozette
What’s weird is that anyone could be fine with Vance after this…………….
“I’m sick and tired of this manipulation, and the background billionaires that operate the opaque machinery… and the people who take their money to do their bidding, while pretending they don’t. And who gets screwed? US, THE VOTERS! Wash – Rience – Repeat
Vivek Ramaswamy and J.D. Vance were college buddies, later funded by billionaire Peter Thiel who is BFF’s with billionaire Elon Musk. Beside their Big Tech relationship, what do Peter Thiel and Elon Musk have in common?…. DHS, IC and FBI activities.
We have already seen the history of placing a VP Mike Pence with Donald Trump just to undermine the MAGA agenda. Now we have an FBI informant, working with a political manipulation effort (TPUSA) to position his asset, JD Vance, into the Pence role for 2024.”
I can always depend on you, sDee, to be up-to-speed on the important info by which we can settle our differences of opinion.
Thank you.
Guess you didn’t read the article?
Charlie Kirk is plainly delusional/grossly manipulative/dementiated/sold out/and more, so why go with anything at all that he touts. Run hard and fast the other way, would be my first instinct.
To Rich Baris credit he did say earlier today Carson is his hands down favorite so theres that
Hiring Baris to run a “straw poll” at a local event is just name-dropping to add some fake credibility to the vote.
Sure, but there’s still the uncomfortable truth that he either:
1) Got duped into participating in a manipulative “straw poll” effort that was meant to elevate JD Vance into being “the chosen one” in people’s minds re: VP.
2) Knowingly participated in said manipulative “straw poll” effort even though he’s built his whole reputation upon OPPOSING such manipulative polling efforts.
Unless and until he openly admits that #1 is true and that he got duped, and he stops hiding behind cherry picked “media reporting” as his excuse for using those four particular names in the poll (purposely excluding popular names like Carson and Donalds), then his reputation has now become tarnished.
The trolls have come out to play
Politics is a full time occupation for paid trolls. Every campaign has them trolling for any references to their candidates. In the VP contest, there will be trolls from many groups competing for the big prizes. Pointing out trolls is a full time job for anyone who believes they have caught one.
The truth will always be at risk if we get most of our information online. The internet is a media platform that is full of corruption and bald faced lies, especially at the advertising levels. We need to always keep this forefront on our minds as we browse around.
Charlie Kirk was the origin of CONservative Inc.
Too much clawing his way to the top in Charlie.
Cuckservative
Koch money
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/06/17/unfortunate-charlie-kirk-tpusa-and-richard-baris-construct-push-poll-to-influence-vp-selection/comment-page-4/#comment-10844758
For what it’s worth, Baris has said on his own show that the downside of selecting JD Vance is that the RINO governor would get to choose the next senator, and that Trump needs all the support he can get in both chambers. As for TPUSA, I share your skepticism.
Thanks, Sundance, for articulating so well the logical reasons for not trusting Vance….. I had a bad feeling in my gut about him, and you have given that feeling a foundation in facts. He is one who will play the part until elected, then do everything to undermine Trump while still pretending to play the MAGA warrior.
I agree… but I may also be in the minority here in that Thiel/Musk’s motives (hidden or not) do not necessarily bother me, as they have every right to do so, and have earned that entitlement (deservedly or not).
Thankfully Sundance has garnered the strenght of audience and voice to provide a counterpoint to those who might listen.
And Sundance’s exposition here shows why Vance would NOT provide the impeachment insurance that DJT needs in his VP pick.
I fell off the Charlie Kirk bandwagon quite some time ago. I’m okay with Trump endorsing their support, but Kirk isn’t solid mass.
Yes, a week or so ago, Charlie outlined the qualities of his favorite, Vance, but in his discussion of the same 4 “finalists” some big losers included (Burgum, Rubio, seriously?) I thought the same: “no way these 4” and “who says so?”
I’m for Ben Carson, a guy with decency, smarts and integrity, and spiritually grounded. But Trump will do his thing – too bad we couldn’t have a “primary” for VP choice on a national level to give Trump a heads-up 😉
I don’t know all the FBi, billionaire, back room deals, etc, but this “Final Four” is garbage at first sniff.
btw there’s a whole strange sub-movement claiming Flynn is a grand schemer to be VP or a replacement candidate if they somehow suppress Trump (jail or worse), supported by a whole cast of rogues like Byrne, Lindell, Bannon, Raiklin, Patel, Powell, Jaco, McKay, Juan O’Savin, and many others, and the only good guys are Lin Wood, Mike Gill (not the dead one), and Jesus. So be careful 😉
It’s important to know the battlefield. Add this information to the threat analysis.
Following is an excerpt from Sun Tzu The Art of War.
Got it.
It’s the reason I won’t stop listening to ThoughtCrime. I feel like a fly on the wall there… The boyz really let their hair down and things that one wouldn’t expect kinda come out…
After all this on Kirk I do wonder what Sundance thinks about Posobeic. He seems to me more adult/serious than the others.
I did find it very interesting that PDJT named many others in his speech at the event but this time, not Poso. A big part of Poso’s daily podcast is his clips of PDJT lavishing some praise upon him.
Kirk’s BFF Jack Posobiec is scamming people with crypto but I can’t get anyone to listen. He befriends, all about patriots then your money vanishes.
We’re all being scammed and manipulated by everyone except Sundance
💔🇺🇸💔
I have not heard anything about Poso scamming people with crypto. Source(s)?
I say the same. The ads on Poso’s podcast are all the same as every other commentator on the right these days – precious metal investment.
I listen all the time (it’s diverting while gardening and available on my phone), and have never yet heard any ad for any crypto.
All we have to do in life to know the truth about anyone is;
follow the money.
Definite no to Vance. Yes to Carson.
Way, way back…Ben Carson was asked if he and President Trumps had discussed him being VP. Ben said, “Yes, we have discussed the future of this country.”
I think Dr. Carson was selected at that time and the rest of this is just President Trump playing with the media.
The other point about about Ben Carson is that he makes assassination of President Trump much less likely.
Why do you think that? I see many comments about selecting a VP to make President Trump ‘assassination proof’. What characteristics achieve that goal?
I recommend Prayer — for Trump’s well-being.
Amazing Polly described the intertwining connections of Peter Thiel, J.D. Vance and many others about three months ago:
https://rumble.com/v4fwfa5-goliath-has-big-plans-for-social-media-and-world-domination.html
At about 7:33, she has a map showing the players, many who are familiar faces.
Thanks for the heads up.
You are welcome, Joe Joe.
Love Amazing Polly. She does deep and thorough research and pulls it together so well.
I regard her in the same level of esteem as Sundance.
I’ve no opinion on Kirk at this point. I don’t know if him enough.
I can say I quite like Rich Baris. I hope he stays clean.
Trump gets to make the pick. I will support the ticket no matter what.
Who is “advising” President Trump? Are they snakes, is Trump listening to them, or has he learned from his past experiences?
God is. That’s why I know PDJT’s pick will be the right one.
JD Vance voted for Evan McMuffin instead of Donald Trump. He essentially wanted Hillary Clinton to become President. If Hillary would have won, it would have been the end of the Republic. So, how do you trust someone with such poor decision making to be VP?
Jesse Ventura for VP. His television series, Conspiracy Theory With Jesse Ventura, which ran from 2009 to 2012, predicted the Covid 19 vaccine hoax.
That would be a great pick if you want to alienate the religious voters.
This is all for moot if Biden pulls off mass amnesty prior to this November…
Donald Trump certainly already knows who his VP will be. He doesn’t need Kirk to tell him.
Sundance, thank you for keeping the right puzzle pieces in front of us—the picture is so confusing.
I agree with your VP recommendations: Dr. Ben Carson or Harriet Hageman.
The globalists in D.C. have us in wartime mode in 3 regions of the world.
The next occupants of the White House must be MAGA, street smart, tough as nails, fearless, and successful leaders.
Impression and body-language of a dominant decision-maker are paramount: tiny little guy in lifts or tiny little Barbie in spikes will not cut it.
Harriet Hageman, if I may say, is appropriately androgynous, the perfect combination of yin and yang for these dangerous years.
Harriet is appropriately classy. Not a beauty but never a slob.
To be fair to Baris, he said on his show today he preferred Ben Carson personally.
This won’t be popular, but if I was Trump I’d choose Tulsi Gabbard. Sure, she was once a Democrat, but she has seen the light and backs Trump wholeheartedly. And no-one owns her. I hazard a guess and say she’s on every Democrat blacklist in existence. She’s a proven loyal patriot too. She’s articulate and not woke. She’d bring along every half normal Democratic voter in America, particularly the women. I find her to very impressive.
Check out her voting record when she as in Congress, also her family history. How come nobody asks her the hard questions about the votes she took!
Ok. in an attempt to cut through the fog, what is is wrong with Vance as a VP candidate?
I don’t trust anybody in the Senate, (R) or (D).
Too many of them are compromised, bought and paid for.
Vance was vigorously neverTrump not too long ago.
Did you not read the post? Sundance spelled it out for you.
Did you not read the article???
Given the XII Amendment, why would Trump ever consider anyone from Florida to be his VP? (Rubio, DeSantis, etc.)
I like Carson, but he met Trump privately some months ago and I have a suspicion he told Trump he did not want the VP job. I hope I’m wrong, but it just seems logical for Carson, who has great respect for Trump, to give Trump plenty of time to find someone else.
Everyone is focusing on a politician to be Veep, but why not someone from the business world or even academia (I’m not advocating him, but someone like VDH)? The professional pols are all corrupt — all of them including the ones we seem to praise.
Your feelings don’t translate to reality. Subtle signs point to Dr. Carson.
VDH is a skimmer on the water of truth.
He always stops short of the sunlight Sundance routinely provides.
“It is a very unfortunate situation any time you can easily spot manipulation that is taking place on behalf of hidden interests.”
Most of the time, even Ted and Nancy from the main street recognize the interests flawlessly.
For me, Richard is living proof why the GOP are losing elections in a row (who wants to remember his embarrassing “expertise” testimony in one of the Kari Lake trials? ) The disturbing self-promoter- according to his self-description “peoples pundit”- behaves in a pathological way insofar that he wants to persuade us patriots with his interpretations of polls as there is no such thing as ballot harvesting.
Is it credible that someone who has been living from politics for what feels like a century cannot distinguish between voters and ballots?
Not to pile on Baris, but a nit that bothers me about him and other “pundits”…
Why in the world do they all mispronounce that word, though in Baris’ case it’s actually part of his brand?
It does not rhyme with “pendant” and is not spelled “pundant.”
“Veepstakes: North Dakota State Rep. Warns Burgum Is Not Trump Conservative”
By Neil W. McCabe – June 01, 2024
https://redstate.com/mccabe/2024/06/01/veepstakes-north-dakota-state-rep-warns-burgum-not-trump-conservative-n2174952
When a man who calls himself The People’s Pundit emits fog like this:
The goal of any survey such as this one is to inquire re: opinions on reported events, not to verify whether those reports are true. Furthermore, it is not appropriate to ensure someone’s preferred choice is included in a survey testing the opinions of reports, when those choices were not mentioned in those reports.
…the obvious conclusion is that he’s trying to prevent understanding.
(Seriously: “testing the opinions of reports”?)
And the only reason to prevent people understanding what you’re doing is that you’re doing something underhanded which would fail if they knew of it.
That said, the Republican establishment is riddled with political types. Underhandedness doesn’t require explicit direction from above when so many will do so much, so energetically & so stupidly, for so little: just the hope that someone will owe them a favor afterwards, so that they can move up the graft tree.
Thank you, Sundance.
On the top of that list should have been Rep Thomas Massie. He is hands down the best politician in D.C.. If people doubt that I would urge them to watch the interview Tucker did with Massie.
Trump said he does not think it matters who is the VP pick. If he believes that he should pick someone good like Massie and not another warmongering Israel-first politician like Pence.
He is one hell of an interesting Guy regardless of what you think of him. It was a really good interview with Tucker.
I was utterly fascinated by the description of the off-the-grid living quarters and how they were achieved.
Thanks for bringing this to our attention.
Charlie Kirk’s ‘Why J.D. Vance is Trump’s Ideal Running Mate’ is another sickening smear against President Trump.
They all do it, and do it with an underlying sneer.
He writes, “J.D. Vance understands better than anyone both why Trump succeeded in his first term and how to make him succeed in a second.”
Kirk has the nerve to say that Vance, the Never Trumper, knows better than President Trump himself how to “make [Trump] succeed in a second [term]”?
He goes on to say, “Still, Trump has kept people guessing, as he likes to do.” Nothing makes me madder than when someone assigns a thought, feeling or motive to another person. What in the hell does Kirk know about what President Trump likes to do? His words seem to suggest, too, that President Trump is keeping people guessing on purpose. Again, what in the hell does Kirk know?
Kirk continues, “More than a dozen names are popping up on shortlists. Maybe all of them are under consideration. Maybe all of them are feints. With Trump, you never know.” More than a dozen names “popping up on the shortlists”, but less than two weeks later that number suddenly drops to 4 really, really important names? And Lil’ Marco is one of those? Egads! Little hands Lil’ Marco?!
And what an absolutely snarky comment made by Kirk when he wrote, “With Trump, you never know.” Does the dude ever call President Trump President Trump? First tell-tale sign of a closeted Never Trumper — they must first bite-off half of their tongue before calling Donald Trump “President.”
Charlie might not know, but you and me and all the 2+ brain cell thinkers know that President Trump knows.
Still Kirk goes on, “After weighing the pros and cons of each possible selection, I realize the best choice has been obvious all along: Sen. J.D. Vance of Ohio.” What hubris. What an ass. Not only is Kirk trying to force a second 30 pieces of silver Pence on us, he is doing it while somehow believing it was him — and not Donald Trump — who has done all the work and fighting to MAGA up to this point.
From there Kirk’s article sinks lower and lower into the depths of the swamp.
And the Politico article Kirk points us to asks the question, “Is there something more radical than MAGA?” and then answers their own question, “J.D. Vance is dreaming it.”
Yeah, Charlie Kirk, J.D. Vance, Politico, TPAction, Burgum, Rubio and Scott are the top swamp floaters trying to take MAGA down.
On the heels of what many people considered a great conference, Charlie Kirk has thrown all credibility away.
Found in the bin… 🙁
Byron Donalds cones across as a strong and sincere MAGA.
I’m with you, Sundance. Ben Carson has been my number one VP pick for a very long time. I thought of Vance as a possible if not Carson. And, yeah, I remember when Vance was anti-Trump, and I have wondered what made him change his mind. I am hopeful that he is a true convert (as I was). However, these days hope doesn’t cut it — we need to know the reality of these situations. Donald Trump has been nothing but good for this country and the Republican Party. I am sick to death of people stabbing him in the back.
Thanks, Sundance, for your eagle eye and your ability to sniff out inconsistencies. And, I love Harriet Hageman — never even thought of her before, but she was and is a big thorn in the side of Liz Cheney and is brilliant too, so you’ve gotta love her.
IMHO, Ben Carson is the best choice for VP.
IMHO, Charlie K., (and Rush before him) are paid assets of what is known as the IC.
Time to tune them all out and off-work hand in hand with friends and neighbors, as SunDance says, live your best life.
Peter Thiel. One of the reasons why I don’t trust this mass exodus to Rumble. I don’t give Charlie Kirk much more than passing attention, but am sorry that Rich Baris was part of this, even only as a ‘tool’. When movements like MAGA are corrupted from the inside, it’s truly worrisome.
There you go…all four are NO GOES.
team meatball part 2
My guess is Ron DeSantis. I can say a lot about DeSantis but I think it’s all water under the bridge now. Trump spoke to him privately not so long ago. He can be a great VP “IF” he can be trusted and I think he can this time around. I think he learned from his mistakes treating Trump like he did.
No
Wow.
Yeah, just no.
Does anyone here have anything against Byron Donalds? I like him.
The only problem with Donalds is that he’s from the same state as Trump. For that reason, he’d do better as governor of Florida.
Thank you.
Enough of all these Lincoln Log Cabin RINO’s. Banish them all
Right, because somebody calling Trump Hitler is such an obvious choice for VP, isn’t it?
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/17/trump-vp-pick-list-pros-cons-00162820
Vance is on record virulently criticizing Trump, including calling him “America’s Hitler” and “cultural heroin.” Democrats would almost certainly weaponize those statements in a campaign, even if Trump himself has moved past them.
JD Vance won on the poll because most Trump supporters agree that he would be a good VP pick, not because of some gay conspiracy. He’s solid MAGA and he’s also good insurance against assassination.
Based on sundance’s take, I’d say Vance would almost insure the opposite.
What about Donalds?
II cannot understand why Burgum is even being considered . He brings nothing to the table . I’d take the risk with Vivek despite Sundance’s warning .
Seems a lot of the supposed conservative media types are pushing Vance. They’re risking another Sherrod Brown in the Ohio senate seat. Never take Rs out of office. Dr. Carson for VP.
Why is TRUMP supporting the Israeli GENOCIDE of innocent woman and children? I always thought those were OFF LIMITS in war? But alas, it’s always about the MONEY………The “tiny hats” have him under their thumb too, quite sad.
You chose war, so don’t cry now that you got what you wanted.
Trump gave you a peace plan, and you rejected it and voted for Biden instead. Now put on your big boy pants and live with the consequences of your choices in life and stop blaming others for your poor judgment.
What is this imaginary genocide? Let’s be clear about the genocide at play.
The Jewish people and eventually Christian people all populated the middle east. Since the invention of Islam, the warlord “Muhammad” conducted a genocide of “convert or die” which then carried on for over a thousand years expanding across Europe and many other areas. Today, there are very few surviving Jews and Christians because of the Islamic campaign against them.
Who has been perpetrating genocide? I see self-defense. If one side says “you must die” and the other says “no, I don’t want to die” that’s all you need to know about this argument.
Before I understood what was going on out there, I remember stories of regions where Israel declared that no building or construction should be allowed it it was all along their border… but well outside of them. It confused me why Israel felt they needed to destroy the homes being built.
Now I understand it. These “homes” were likely locations from which rockets and other weapons of death would be launched into Israel. And given the fact that both women and children are used as soldiers in their campaigns and the fact that schools and other such buildings are often used for such purposes, you have to ask yourself some very serious questions.
Why was Israel maintaining an area where they prohibited the building of new structures? Because it’s a DMZ. If anyone had used that term, I would have understood immediately.
Islamists have been at genocidal war against Jews for a VERY long time. So let me ask you this:
Do you support Islam’s campaign of genocide against all non-Muslims? You can’t deny that Islam’s campaign exists and has continued for all of this time. It’s written in Europe’s history along with Islam’s own recorded history. This reality isn’t in dispute by either side.
I’m all in favor of a “coexist” way of thinking. But over the years, I have come to realize that Islam, from its beginning doesn’t allow for this. This is why Islam is completely unique among world religions. Under Christian or Jewish law, the laws only apply to Christians and Jews. Under Islamic law, the laws apply to ALL people whether or not they believe in their religion. In fact, there are special taxes and punishments prescribed to non-followers.
And this begs an important question. Is Islam a religion or a military government organization?
Look up the recent interview of Thomas Massie by Tucker Carlson. AIPAC controls the R party. And likely the D party too.