It is a very unfortunate situation any time you can easily spot manipulation that is taking place on behalf of hidden interests.
In this example today TPUSA was pushing the results of a poll from this past weekend.
Charlie Kirk and his organization claim that JD Vance won the straw poll of 1,600 attendees to the TPUSA event. However, as quickly identified, the only options presented to the audience were JD Vance, Marco Rubio, Tim Scott and Doug Burgum. Somewhat of a self-fulfilling presentation.
[SOURCE]
Why only four candidates? According to Charlie Kirk and his pollster Richard Baris, those are the final four as determined by them and media.
Something just didn’t smell right. Lots of media articles have other names including Kari Lake, Ben Carson, Vivek Ramaswamy, Lee Zeldin, Michael Flynn, Devin Nunes, Ron DeSantis and many more. So, what exactly was the agenda of TPUSA and by extension, Richard Baris.
Well, for his participatory role, it appears Richard Baris was only a tool who polled the audience based on names Charlie Kirk gave him. Then when you consider that Charlie Kirk had already publicly claimed J.D. Vance was the best choice for vice-president {SEE HERE}, the pre-selected names appeared to be chosen to create a specific outcome, ie “the illusion of choice.”
JD Vance won the TPUSA poll because Charlie Kirk wanted J. D Vance to win the poll. Richard Baris delivered the data to support it by using a pre-filtered candidate list that only included 4 names.
After being called out for the manipulative tactics, their attempts at justification ended up just being silly. [SEE HERE]. The narrative engineering fiasco would be embarrassing and shameful if the issues were not serious.
In the background we have Peter Thiel. In addition to having a lot of money to spend on organizations like TPUSA, Mr. Thiel also supports JD Vance. Thiel is the primary funder of JD Vance, and unfortunately Thiel is also an FBI informant {SEE HERE}.
Oddly, Senator J.D Vance was a vitriolic Never Trumper throughout his time in politics (exceptional hatred for Trump), until Vance had a sudden and mysterious change of heart, which coincided with his financial backer, billionaire Peter Thiel, becoming an FBI operative.
Watch Video in Tweet:
THE REAL JD VANCE 🐍 #NeverVance pic.twitter.com/QomoynPijq
— Chief Trumpster (@ChiefTrumpster) June 12, 2024
In essence, just as Thiel started working for the FBI, then J.D Vance started to support President Trump…. Coincidence? Go figure.
Now, I tell you this because the unknown question is whether Peter Thiel has funded, or is funding, the TPUSA efforts of Charlie Kirk. Mr. Kirk has sent out tweets praising Mr. Thiel; but neither of them will respond directly to the question.
Follow the money 💰
Therein lies the answer. pic.twitter.com/DmAOlOepZH
— Trump 2024 – America First (@TrumpMAGADONIAN) June 17, 2024
Why does all of this matter?
Because I’m sick and tired of this manipulation, and the background billionaires that operate the opaque machinery… and the people who take their money to do their bidding, while pretending they don’t. And who gets screwed? US, THE VOTERS! Wash – Rience – Repeat
Vivek Ramaswamy and J.D. Vance were college buddies, later funded by billionaire Peter Thiel who is BFF’s with billionaire Elon Musk. Beside their Big Tech relationship, what do Peter Thiel and Elon Musk have in common?…. DHS, IC and FBI activities.
We have already seen the history of placing a VP Mike Pence with Donald Trump just to undermine the MAGA agenda. Now we have an FBI informant, working with a political manipulation effort (TPUSA) to position his asset, JD Vance, into the Pence role for 2024.
And no one wants to admit this is happening, because it might be too uncomfortable to admit.
The bottom line is that this TPUSA poll was purposefully manufactured, created with specific names eliminated, to deliver a very specific outcome. That outcome may or may not matter to anyone; but it’s the manipulation that’s the point.
It is exhausting keeping track of all these fake pretenses, ulterior motives, financial schemes and billionaire agendas.
Go figure.
ps. Dr. Ben Carson or Harriet Hageman would be good considerations.
My take. We are at a crossroads and this is a time the Conservatives and the Black population forge a new beginning (rekindling an old relationship). Trump needs to find a black leader a real leader to become his VP and chart a new chapter of conservatives and get our brothers and sisters out of the vicious cycle they are in via a vibrant industrial base back into our metropolitan areas. Furthermore if we believe that the black inner city vote (fraud) was real, then I believe a black VP is going to give voices to those in the inner city to call that fraud out. They know where the skeletons are.
There’s an excellent candidate in the ready for VP.
Dr Carson. He is a great role model for the black community in how he achieved successes in life in spite of his humble origins.
He had to turn himself around to do so as well, he was heading for the hood track to start, he has a genuine insight few possess, a natural authority, he could do so much to help Erase Zero.
Hmm…. erase zero.
Come to think of it, what I know of their experiences and personalities suggests to me of Dr. Carson and Obama being near polar opposites in life.
An anti-Obama, if you will.
Dang.
Carson never forgot where he came from and how hard the work was to get where he is.
Obama never cared where he came from, and chose his friends carefully in order to avoid any hard work.
I disagree, jett96. The POTUS elect job is not to find a black leader . The POTUS elect job is to find the BEST man for the job. Period. End of. Full stop. If it happens to be a black person, fine. If it isn’t, that is fine too. A person’s skin color should not determine said person’s job status whether in or not in politics.
I happen to think Ben Carson is the best person
I agree, 110% Karen. I’m all for Carson!
I was too until SD just suggested Harriet. Our bench is pretty deep all things considered.
Looking forward to the Ben Carson Kamala Harris debate, it will be adult beverage worthy.
Oh my goodness….it would
be epic!
😂 😂 😂 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
Just the thought of listening to the Cackling Ho is cringe worthy
perhaps jett is proposing a strategy, not a policy
I believe Wy Rep Harriet Hageman is a serious candidate and has as good of shot as any names mentioned – truth is no one has a clue – it’s all been a media narrative as Sundance has pointed out. PDJT plays along, let’s hope he doesn’t get played .
A Hageman choice would be another poke in the eye of Liz Cheney, as well–especially sweet.
Lost me at,
“the Conservatives” and “the Blacks”…
Trust God. Fear not.
He didn’t say “the Blacks”. YOU did. He said Black population. No negative connotation there, no confusion. And historically Blacks have voted for Democrats by a wide margin. Maybe you’re being too sensitive or worse… a White person virtue signaling?
Twisting things a bit?
Assisting in promotion of racial divisiveness?
Agree. Comment implied there are no black voters who are conservatives:)
Fwiw….
President Trumps been saying for several years that he does NOT view himself in political terms.
Instead,he views himself as a common sense American who loves America and everyone who is part of our American family; including the “haters”.
Political labels are relatively meaningless curiosity kilers that are used to keep us divided and fighting with each other so we don’t combine forces to deal with our common foes.
During our very real war with the Mordor NWO, thank God for our Gandalf, PDJT.
It is condescending and undermines unity by thinking blacks who are for President Trump (and more supporting him everyday) want a black vp. They have had that pandering already and they are so done with it.
What, 12% of population is black but to appease we shoot for 50-50 in government? That is cheesy politicking at its best (worst). And racist. And the results is what we have now killing Lady Liberty.
How is that condescending?
If you don’t think Black voters would love the chance to vote for a Black leader you aren’t rational or logical. Sounds like what a White person who claims to speak for others would say. Sounds kind of like a Liberal Karen. 😆
“Sounds like”.
If so, perhaps its time for a hearing check and spiritual cardio exam.
Speaking for blacks now?
How leftist to assume what they think.
More coordination from both left AND right…Ashley Etienne (Harris’ former com director) echoes TPUSA stating that Vance is the biggest threat as a potential DJT VP pick. And Wayne Root is also beating the Vance drum. Strings…easy to see now….
I remember reading somewhere about the loudest voice in the room….
Or in this case the loudest cackle…
And Wayne writes for????
U-turn Vance.
Dr. Ben Carson is my favorite, but it has to be admitted that of the options that were allowed at the TPUSA event, Vance is by far the best option.
Oops didn’t mean to agree please remove. I’m for Dr Carson all the way
Same.
President Trump needs and deserves a genuine compatriot in his battle to Restore the Republic.
All those prosecuting the 2028 election from their armchairs are neglecting the severity of the battle to get to that election in the first place.
One of the chief roles in Dr Carson’s portfolio would be the healing of the racial divide created by Team Zero and his Masters, and none other possesses the life history and sincere spiritual gravitas to pull that off.
TPUSA is not the end all-be all of this election.
“of the options that were allowed at the TPUSA event, Vance is by far the best option.” Yeah, well that was TPUSA’s decision. Not that of the MAGA agenda.
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So you like a recorded Never Trumper, a Pence redux?
Citizen Free Press is a big Charlie Kirk cheerleader. Is CFP to be trusted?
Don’t know but it’s a ted flag for me.
But then again, my trust level is a lot lower than most.
Trump and Sundance has it. A few others, somewhat, but very few others.
trusted as much as drudge, BK
I haven’t trusted Drudge in years.
And not much then.
NO.
Kane also said MTG is “beautiful” in person. Yeah, if you like manly women I guess. He’s often wrong, drinks the Kool-aid sometimes, and I think star-struck or a butt kisser. His site is a great news aggregator but that doesn’t mean Kane is infallible.
https://x.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1802746847645086126
Obviously NO ONE == “infallible”.
Obviously, in order to have any chance at succeeding,there is only ONE Commander In Chief leader.
PDJT.
Second guessing I-Know-Betters like AJ, Rand, Massie and Bannon can be VERY useful as long as one remembers who they are so when they go into anti Trump snek mode they do minimal damage.
NO.
Kane routinely has 2-5 links to the same article in his list. He does that to boost his page views! Fake.
He routinely has the same links with the same wording as Drudge! It’s hilarious.
Most of his links used to go to a page with comments, now none do. Why is that?
His text on a lot of links are not what the article actually says. He’s dishonest.
I think sloppy vs dishonest. But worst of all, there’s no way to send corrections or comment when posts are inaccurate or biased. Apparently he doesn’t like criticism or want an open forum.
Also far too many links to PravdaUS sources.
If JD Vance were the VP pick == a loss of a Trump ally in the Senate
Who would pick JDs Senate replacement == uber snek Guv DeWine.
President Trumps getting tons of Intel AND media coverage via his Trump VP Apprentice Competition.
I have such respect for Dr. Carson and Harriet Hageman, too. Either one is an excellent choice for VP, made more enticing since neither has sold their soul for any agenda pushing millionaires. To me, that alone shows why either would be a perfect fit for President Trump. 🙏🏻🇺🇸
Well, whoever gets the nomination for VP, if they are MAGA, they will have to endure indictments like crazy. I am 100% sure of Dr. Carson’s principles; that he will not be swayed by everything they will throw at him. In fact, the opposition probably have indictments already to go if the need arises.
The opposition also has lawsuits ready to go for each of Trumps Executive Orders and policy initiatives.
And you know that how?
And how would they have lawsuits lined up for things that don’t exist yet???
😆 🤣 😂
What is her position on Ukraine?
Yeah always be wary of the ‘true conservative’ crowd that has always opposed Trump and has no greater wish than to see him gone. No Never Trumper for VP.
Kind of like the website “National Review.” They hail as conservatives – the magazine was launched by William F Buckley, a true conservative. However, they have devolved into their new status as NEVER TRUMP CONSERVATIVES. smh.
Buckley a “true conservative” if “true conservativw” == an east coast elitist aka Country Club Establishment anti populist, globalist Republican.
Buckley prided himself on crushing the anti Establishment conservative libertarian grassroots movement that challenged the Establishment; a movement that both DJT and his father belonged to until Buckley crushed it.
Buckleys “true conservatives” despised Reagan, became Bush era neoconservatives then Never Trump Republicans.
Conservative politicians do not exist. Never did.
A lot of conservatives just want to replace their tyranny for democrat tyranny.
Funny story….i sent CK an email about his tie with H’s on it…I said NICE HERMES tie…..money must be rolling in at TPUSA…..he replied it is for HILLSDALE college in a snide reply…..he hasn’t worn it on air since 🤣🤣🤣
I have since deep sixed his awful show…
I am now a devoted Alex Jones Infowars devotee at 11:00
I am so grateful SD wrote this article. I have never understood how Kirk, Owens and a few others started out not rich and Trump bashers and then became millionaires after they jumped on the Trump train. We regular Amerucans can’t afford the basics and they are reeling in the money, basically using our suffering to make themselves rich.
I do not understand why any true MAGA patriot puts any stock in what they say or do. I can see why Kirk, Thiel and the rest of these phonies want Vance-like him, they seem to be driven by ego, not by compassion for regular Americans.
Personally I’m grateful for ANY help President Trump, and we, get, especially during this phase of our war with the NWO death cult psychopaths.
After ALL, President Trumps message has been LOUD and CLEAR since his DC meetings on Thursday.
NOW is the time to put differences aside. NOW is the time to UNITE so we can defeat the Democrats who are hell bent on destroying us all.
😍 Gandalf Trump.
As colonists used to warn each other during our first Revolutionary War, “hang TOGETHER or LOSE and hang separately.
are you not aware of the repubes hellbent on destroying us too?? using this logic (and I use that term loosely) we got Pence……wont get fooled again…..
Devoted AJ fan.
Out of the trying pan into the fire.
AJs the OG of controlled opposition who targets newbies to the truther community much like FOX targets naive conservatives.
um no………………
Well, considering AP is who DECLARES our new Resident every four years, as well as our other federal, state and local races, why should this be a surprise?
My initial reaction when I saw that poll on Truth Social was “WTF?”.
Didn’t even need spidey sense for that one.
And I am the most average guy of all average guys.
Would be nice to see TPUSA own it and admit the error, that would truly exceed expectations.
Same old crap! I mean crap! Trump will never take advice from Charlie Kirk for starters! Who on earth does he think he is to give Trump advice or some sort of final advice? Charlie has made his bed: Charlie is about Charlie, no one else. Someone should send him a pacifier!
Trump 2024!
Kirk bungled the AZ election that Lake lost. Now he ‘failed up’ and is a leading puppet master?
He is being manipulated by someone.
🎯 🎯
yup, it was the Charlie Kirk-Turning Point
rally in Phx….featuring Ron DeSantis that
increased my intense dislike of both Kirk
and DeSantis.
Blake Masters, Kari Lake share stage with Ron DeSantis at Phoenix rally
☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ aug. 2022
Bannon and countless others give President Trump unsolicited advice, publicly rather than just privately, constantly.
Plus people like Bannon still use their platforms to openly campaign against President Trumps endorsed candidates and to undermine his decisions.
DIVIDED we will fail in 140 DAYS
nice try – now go away……do not feed this troll
How disappointing that Charlie Kirk is not on the good guys team. I listen to him often and my 31 year loves him.
Charlie Kirk says some good things, but seems to be being handled by somebody. He does what he is told. Sometimes he is a friend, but not a very loyal one.
I mean, we now have Elon Musk saying that any chance of election machines being hacked is too much (something anyone who took Computer Programming 101 would know!) but Charlie Kirk has been rather silent about election machines despite occasionally hanging with people who have presented all kinds of evidence of machine fraud.
(Maybe Musk saying so is a sign that others’ leashes can also be loosened a bit – we’ll see.)
Vance, Vivek, Kirk and the other aforementioned….trying to think of a word that threads through all of them….shifty.
Something that is quite absent in Dr. Ben Carson.
Dr. Carson loves our country 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I am certain of that.
Not something I am certain
the others do.
Has Sundance already grown tired of Byron Donald’s? And wasn’t he also pushing a black Congressman from South Carolina?
I probably follow politics more than most, not MSM, not Fox. I try to follow issues, immigration, California water games. But not as closely as many here.
To be honest, I know almost nothing about JD Vance. I know he seemed to flip flop.
My unofficial, off-the-cuff VP finalists?
Vivek Ramaswamy – a real change agent w boundless energy who could defend President Trump while hopefully – finally – reducing the Federal Gov’t size / budgets. OUTSIDER. Has spoken about why mass Fed govt layoffs are legal. Could lead MAGA 3.0 in 2028.
Byron Donald’s- Sundance brought him to my attention. Very promising.
Dr. Carson – I love him, but think he’s too nice for the job, and too old. We need an energetic street fighter.
Kari Lake – they really jobbed her in Arizona, didn’t they? Potentially Trump 2.0. Never held public office.
No Go:
Tim Scott – doesn’t impress was me, nor his last-minute love interest. He reminds me of light in the loafers (single) Lindsey Graham.
J.D. Vance – what does he add? What has he ever excelled at beyond VC? Many of his top investors are Silicon Valley Democrats.
President Trump supposedly knows all the players now. And does he have a solid core of MAGA Advisors?*
* Jared Kuschner was reportedly working behind the scenes to undercut President Trump moves. (Peter Navarro)
What part of the exposing of Ramaswamy on these pages and in this very post above do you not understand?
Vivek will NEVER be the VP pick.
It gets EXHAUSTING doesn’t it, Black Knight?
Vivek = Soros.
You don’t even have to TRY that hard. ANY FREAKING SEARCH ENGINE just “Vivek” and “Soros” bada bing bada boom. Vivek Ramaswampy
https://www.pdsoros.org/meet-the-fellows/vivek-ramaswamy
Ayup.
But I keep pressing on so that innocent, non commenting viewers don’t get taken in by BS.
How about Nunes or Grenell?
Can someone actually AXE govt positions, departments, budgets?
I’ve only heard Vivek directly and vigorously address this. Govt grew under Presudent Trump.
P.S. My sweetie at the time worked (works) for the Feds, and their heads were exploding over two issues:
1 Employee hiring freeze
2 President Trump directive to cut 10% – WHICH NEVER HAPPENED.
Why not elect to enlist both Nunes and Grenell as axeman in acting positions for executive agencies while Congress plays games with the confirmation process?
How about Carson of Lake?
But more importantly, why not just wait until Trump announces instead of wasting time speculating?
Since he hasn’t announced yet, it seems like a good time to point out he could announce Sundance. Or Black Knight. Or any of the Treepers whom Sundance has pointed out know more than most people in the IC about what’s going on.
I would like to see someone way outside the usual line of political ascension – someone whose selection was based on character, not the right law school. And I think America would like that too.
I like Kari Lake.
I thought we put Vivek to rest with his shady pharma dealings and stock manipulations? One mention of Vivek makes my hackles rise…
A-hole Kushner side-railed Bannon. I am so proud of Bannon for not holding it against PDJT, and his continuing to fight for MAGA, even to the point of going to jail for his MAGA steadfastness. Can’t say the same about Kushner. He is nowhere to be seen nor heard, except in photo ops of him and Ivanka. Kushner was/is a sleeze and did nothing for his father-in-law.
Lake is a loser. Ran a horrible campaign for governor.
She got cheated, almost everyone on this site knows it, and your constant weak attempts at narrative control is and had been noted.
👁
“and your constant weak attempts at narrative control is and had been noted.”
Sigh …as has yours.
You are more than welcome to challenge anything I put up, anytime.
Good luck!!!! 😉
Let me know how it works out.
If she is so bad, why did they cheat so hard to keep her out?
Who was responsible for President Trump hiring the bomb throwing California Democrat, Peter Navarro?
Jared Kushner.
No good deed goes unpunished
what rino payroll are you on?
Trump should delay naming a VP choice for as long as possible.
The instant Trump picks a VP the media, the GOPe, the Deep State will all rush to shift the narrative to highlight the VP as the de facto candidate to stand in for Trump because Trump will be in jail and/or incapacitated. Merchan will take the cue from that to lock Trump up in Rikers Island. The media is already spinning bogus stories about how Trump is too old (while hiding Biden’s senescence and Kamala’s imbecility.)
The Trump campaign’s greatest strength is Trump: Trump’s personality, Trump’s accomplishments, Trump’s energy. Anything that distracts from Trump at the top of the ticket (as the entire ticket) would be a bad move. He has to name a VP eventually but he should wait as long as possible and bring them out at the convention, not before.
The anti-Trump crowd will do anything to block Trump. They will even accept a Trump VP if they can
Sundance, I love you, MAGA Brother!!
👊👊🇺🇸🇺🇸❤️❤️🙏🏻🙏🏻
They are all great! But who would be the best? Give them all cabinet posts and the best the vp! My Pick Vance! A little bit of a loose cannon and alot like Trump.
You did not even read the article. Ugh. Thanks for proving Sundance’s hypothesis.
They are “all great”??
Let’s see what the gamblers say.
Vp picks betting odds
Based on the search results, here are the current betting odds for the Republican Vice Presidential nominee:
Doug Burgum: +400 (4-1)Tim Scott: +450 (9-2)J.D. Vance: +500 (5-1)Elise Stefanik: +550-+700 (11-14-2)Marco Rubio: +750 (15-2)Tulsi Gabbard: +900 (9-1)
Note that these odds are subject to change and may vary depending on the betting site. Additionally, there may be other candidates with lower odds not listed here.
Thats what the odds makers say, not gamblers, to suck everyone’s money in.
And, so what?
The House Always Wins.
Call them what they are…Bookies.
Odds Makers sound legit…almost collegiate/s?
Interesting.
We can take as many polls and state opinions as we want. I think President Trump will select who he wants and not be influenced by a TPUSA poll or any other poll for that matter.
Trump was politically naive in 2016 and many in his administration burned him. He’s a quick study and I think he plays the game of “guess my VP” to stimulate conversation, but he will make the decision this time and not be strong-armed by the RINOs like last time forcing him to take Mike Pence.
Charlie Kirk likes Vance that is for sure and was pushing him on his podcast..I do not know the back story as you seem to. Just for the record Sundance who would you like to see as Vice President? I frankly do not know who I would like to see as VP. Your recommendation may help me in my support for the right candidate.
IIRC, Sundance was leaning to Dr. Ben Carson..
Sundance has made it clear multiple times on this site, Carson.
Plus this article also floats Hagemann’s name.
I can’t find a single thing wrong with either one. Can’t say that about most of the redt.
Did you even read the article Sundance wrote?
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I am thinking the smart choice is Flynn, that cuts any remove the president attempt to zero…. they dont want Flynn at all and he was Trumps first choice last time.… if he picks almost anyone else…. so many strings… and they may feel ( or actually can) control many of the others and will take the chance…. none as bold or teflon as 45.
IMO, Flynn will have a more prominent position, like AG of Chief Of Staff.
My choice is Flynn, General Flynn could reinvent the VP position as a total shield to the President..watching his back side..cutting down never Trump war mongering..etc..etc…Flynn would than be more than ready to carry abt maga torch
I think Flynn and Carson are two of a few possibilities whom the Left would want even less than Trump; therefore they would be good assassination insurance.
Then who do you want, Sundance? Why then, did Donald Trump, Jr. campaign for JD Vance so hard? Seems to me, no matter who, there is trouble with them all.
I’m guessing you re new here…Sundance has already made his preference known, for quite some time…. Dr. Ben Carson.
He even disguised it by writing in the final sentence of the article. Sneaky.
I think Don Jr is the idiot of the family from what I can see.
And as usual, WRONG!
That would be Javanka
She seems to have several loose wires.
Indeed.
Always gives me the impression of being a self centered spoiled brat.
Junior inherited the showman part of his father, Eric inherited the businessman part of PDJT.
You have to remember that PDJT plays a longer game. He wants Republicans to win as many seats in Congress as possible to become a firm majority. He wants to deny Democrats any power in Congress – for good reasons.
Therefore PDJT endorses the Republican candidate in each state that he feels is strongest and most likely to win. He doesn’t always get a Republican candidate who is ALSO pro-MAGA, so in those cases he has to mae that concern secondary, despite knowing he may not get that candidate’s support for all of his MAGA policies once they are elected into Congress.
Agreed. People are not taking a look at how PDJT is playing the congressional races.
So, this is just the latest from the “because I said so, damn it!” school of poll taking?
While I’m sorry to see that Theil, like Musk is just another soul who went up on the mountain and apparently said yes to all that,
It isn’t working.
“It is exhausting keeping track of all these fake pretenses, ulterior motives, financial schemes and billionaire agendas.”
Thank you, Sundance.
I was very worried that because of my old age, I was easily exhausted by all this. I am indeed extremely tired of it, but it’s anger driven exasperation.
You have rejuvenated me, and I thank you for it
God Bless
MAGA
Could u please confront Kirk and TP USa and have this out with them. If really like answers. I don’t want any undo influence on otherwise DJT’s choice.
Rich Baris, on his whatever-cast this afternoon, explicitly said, however, that of all the possible choices President Trump could make for his running mate, Baris thinks that Ben Carson would be the best choice.
Baris was probably on the Human Events podcast with Jack Posobiec. HE is affiliated with TPUSA however Posobiec has been a staunch PDJT/MAGA supporter from the get – go.
We have to be very careful to find someone who exceeds the caliber of Kamala. 🙂 But that seems not to be a Pence or a Vance since, idiocy aside, she at least is on the same team as the usurper for whom she works, as far as either of them can understand what they are doing.
Or what they’re babbling.
I think President Trump has already decided who VP is but won’t announce until convention. CK is an influencer and he does influence a lot of people. Especially millennials. He has their ear and they are listening but maybe one day they will learn to navigate their own way by seeing thru the stuff.
Could u please confront Kirk and TP USa and have this out with them. If really like answers. I don’t want any undo influence on otherwise DJT’s choice.
Pls read the links. He already did. Cmon man
Sundance has been directly confronting them both (via DM and via open/public posts on X). I read through them all because it sparked my interest.
Neither Kirk or Baris would give him a straightforward answer to his simple question as to how the four names were selected for the poll. It’s much like when the DeSantis influencers (e.g. Dave Rubin) refused to answer the simple question of who organized the meeting that they all attended.
I think that the sliminess of Kirk doesnt need any explanation, but I gotta be honest, as much as I like Baris, I’m also rather disappointed with him about the manipulation surrounding this poll until he admits that he himself was duped/manipulated by Kirk (if that was the case).
Otherwise, he’s knowingly being dishonest about this sort of polling manipulation that he’s built his whole reputation upon opposing, and that’s even worse in my mind.
Baris was being paid to conduct a poll, that’s his rice bowl.
I can remember when very few people cared that much about who the vice-president was. Many had to stop and think, or ask someone, who the VP was.
So can I.
But I’ve learned here that practically all of the prez/vps were likely not elected, but selected by The Powers That (Should Not) Be.
“ps. Dr. Ben Carson or Harriet Hageman would be good considerations.” Agree on either one. President Trump is going to need to invoke a National State of Emergency. Timing totally up to his good judgement but it will need to take place. Fed troops closing down Langley, FBLie, DOJ all at once. If not these actions or similar ones,,, then things will change only slightly and for short duration before the uniparty/IC and DOJ regain control and finish the job on US. It’s going to get uglier bet on that. Live your best life by working for Him and throw sand wherever and whenever you can in the treasonous gears turning everyday in our faces. Spit!
Fox is promoting Ben Carson tonight. Jesse Watters’ assistant. Along with Vance.
I like Dr. Carson a lot, but I think I’d have taken Mark Robinson in a foxhole. But, maybe there’s something I don’t know about him. Charlie Kirk needs the chip knocked off his shoulder, because he thinks he’s far more important than he is. You know a guy that gets seemingly a lot done and I barely hear a peep? Scott Pressler.
Bottom line, I doubt any of this matter to PDJT.
Dr Ben Carson was always my choice. Just a gut feeling.🙏😇❤️ And no offense meant to anyone here, but Charlie is FOS in my book. And WhoTF is JDV? Are these clowns now just throwing poop at the wall to see who sticks???!🤪
Baris said he would’ve acquitted Casey Anthony last week on his show. Nuff said. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
I don’t expect Vance to be picked as Trump’s VP. All these moves are primarily marketing moves by the Republican Senate wing of the UniParty to build up a credible presidential contender for 2028.
Even the UniParty can figure out Tim Scott and Rubio are not suitable choices to fill the political hole left by Trump when he leaves office in 2028. Vance seems to be the candidate they’ve decided will be marketed to Trump Republicans in 2028 since the DeSantis option has already been wasted.
Vipers at every turn. It’s a swamp and a jungle. Maybe JD can redeem himself in the Senate. I’d like to see a VP who is entirely devoted to helping his boss get it done and not future office. Then we’ll have four years to see who can carry the torch forward.
This is why I delete all of Kirk’s emails to support his efforts and respond to his questionnaires, etc. When I saw the ballot, I had to laugh because there wasn’t a single person on the list I cared for. That told me there was another intent here, and it wasn’t on the level. Once again, Sundance, you are an excellent scout of the scam! Thank you, thank you, thank you!
PS, Carson has always been my pick!
Unfortunately for this nation, “the selection of the [Vice-]President” is, as we see, now “pre-determined.”
Although you might dream that you might “actually have a real choice,” it has been well more than one hundred years since you ever actually did.
If you are merely asked to “choose between” a slate of [exactly two …] “candidates,” such that no other person(s) could ever [reali$tically …] appear on the ballot alongside them, then … your “vote” means nothing.
“Pick a side. Red or Blue.” However, it’s still only one coin. “Red™ and Blue™” are merely trademarks.
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“Don’t like what you see? Change it.”
I don’t like, JD Vance he just talk funny like a RINO when he ask questions. Also, the fact the something he wear eye liner is just weird.
In the era of high – definition television, it is not that unusual.
My choice is Ben Carson. Always has been. Vance should remain in the Senate. We need young men we hope we can count on. Charlie should let Trump decide his cabinet, and stick to getting Trump elected.
TPUSA has built an organization. They have created interest in the election process. I am old and I cannot match their talents. The straw poll is aimed at settling the vp choice so matters can move on to the final choice on election day.
Convenient timing that TPUSA was organized and developed in the timeframe that it was over the last several election cycles.
One could say, to manage public perceptions and outcomes.
Why I say this? Much of their messaging is slick and what people want to hear. Much of which, engages direct with the distractions in the culture war rather then root causes of many issues.
If that straw poll wipes out Scott, Rubio and Burgum, that would be a plus.
I’ve been warning everyone about Kirk since he SINGLE-HANDEDLY lost the AZ elections for Lake and other candidates. By Kirk’s own admission he was responsible for 30,000 AZ MAGA voters being disenfranchised in that election. He is basically an idiot.
Now Bannon is touting Kirk all the time. Birds of a feather stick together.
Both Bannon and Kirk do good things, UNTIL they start to act like they can be the puppet masters.
Charlie Kirk was an RDS supporter first and foremost.
He waited until President Trump had done rallies in our cities and then followed in the same places with RDS.
Charlie Kirk is an imposter.
I would just be happy looking at Kristi Noem’s eyes for the next 4 years.
Kristi Noem is a bought-and-paid for fraud, too, just like all that Botox around those eyes you want to look into. She is in bed with the Koch Brothers. NO SALE.
Hazel eyes can have a mesmerizing effect. Take a closer look, Kristi’s plastic surgeon or dermatologist can do a better skin sanding job, I still see acne scars.
Interesting series of videos Interviewing Madeleine Duncan Brown, LBJ’s mistress:
Baris is just the pollster who was employed by TPUSA.
I’m listening to Baris’ show from earlier today right now. He’s not pushing for Vance, in fact he just enumerated a bunch of downsides that would come with a Vance pick.
And he just said his personal choice would be Dr. Ben Carson.
Sane here. So disappointed. I thought he was an honest pollster. He just showed he can be “influenced”.
There is a KEY WORD the SWAMP DWELLERS are using throughout Indiana.
“First Principles”
When you hear that, this is a code word for the Establishment. I know it. Personally. It’s a hat tip. Listen for it. I’ve been hearing it coming up in interviews. Last time from Vivek Ramaswampy.
I am leaning more towards Byron Donalds now. Yep, he had a felony too. He speaks to Black folks every day. I love how he pushes the dumb broads on CNN too. I was for Carson but after the last couple weeks, I think Donalds would be a great fit
But…. but…. but Donalds wasn’t one of the four names “reported by media” that are “still in the running” for VP, so he (and other popular options) were (purposely) left off of the TPUSA/Baris “straw poll” (hahaha) of who the event attendees “wanted for VP” (hahaha).
I guess when you do the equivalent of asking people if they want JD Vance, Lisa Murkowski, Mitch McConnell, or John Thune for VP, it ends up being Vance who is the most popular choice (even though other more popular choices exist). Funny how that sort of manipulation works.
“Names ‘reported by media’ were chosen” … and Kirk was pushing for Vance just a couple weeks before this “straw poll” hahahaha… hmmmmm….