Earlier today Joe Biden threatened U.S. troop engagement with Russian troops if congress doesn’t provide further funding for Ukraine. As the premise is pushed, a failure to fund the Ukraine war means Russia will move beyond Ukraine into a NATO country. The premise is nonsense. WATCH:
White House – […] “Congress needs to pass supplemental funding for Ukraine before they break for the holiday recess. It’s as simple as that.
Frankly, I think it’s stunning that we’ve gotten to this point in the first place. While Congress — the Republicans in Congress is — are willing to give Putin the greatest gift he could hope for and abandon our global leadership not just to Ukraine, but beyond that.
[…] “I just did a meeting with the G7, which was one of the issues we discussed — all of the European leaders. We are prepared to stay with us — stay with Ukraine, and our European friends are as well.
Who in the United States are prepared to walk away from that? I tell you, I’m not prepared to walk away, and I don’t think the American people are either.
If Putin takes Ukraine, he won’t stop there. It’s important to see the long run here. He’s going to keep going. He’s made that pretty clear.
If Putin attacks a NATO Ally — if he keeps going and then he attacks a NATO Ally — well, we’ve committed as a NATO member that we’d defend every inch of NATO territory. Then we’ll have something that we don’t seek and that we don’t have today: American troops fighting Russian troops — American troops fighting Russian troops if he moves into other parts of NATO.
Make no mistake: Today’s vote is going to be long remembered. And history is going to judge harshly those who turn their back on freedom’s cause.
We can’t let Putin win. I’ll say it again: We can’t let Putin win. It’s in our overwhelming national interest and international interest of all our friends.
Any disruption in our ability to supply Ukraine clearly strengthens Putin’s position. We’ve run out of money to be able to do that, in terms of authorization.
Extreme Republicans are playing chicken with our national security, holding Ukraine’s funding hostage to their extreme partisan border policies.” (link)
He’s deranged.
Our military is NOT designed for High Intensity Combat and we’d have our a$$es handed to us. Plus we don’t have the ammo! Russia was shooting several thousand artillery rounds per day in Ukraine and we can’t make more than 4 – 5 K per year AND that is being sent to Israel.
Everything you stated after “deranged” is incorrect. Agree that sending troops to Ukraine is stupidity of biblical proportions.
Unfortunately, “Pinot,” everything that he stated is not “incorrect.”
I sorely wish that it was. But, the “Arsenal of Democracy” of 80+ years ago … disappeared.
Ummm, did you serve a deployment in Iraq or Afghanistan like I did? One of the things I was responsible for was munitions supply and resupply! The reason we have supply and resupply problems is because those munitions contracts have been reduced by half over the last seven or eight years thanks mostly to Democrats!!!
RoughandReady is correct. Sadly.
It is YOU who are incorrect. Our vaunted military has just lost Afghanistan after 20 years of wasted blood and treasure. We lost in Vietnam the same way. Your John Wayne chest thumping about the implied invincibility of our military is hogwash.
Who has more motivation to fight in Ukraine? Russians who are defending their fellow ethnics on their own border or a bunch of demoralized Americans who don’t want to be their and will quit the military as soon as their commitment is over thanks to what our corrupt, woke military establishment has done.
I won’t even get into the logistical, tactical and strategic advantages that Russia would have if such insanity prevails.
It was not the military who lost in Vietnam and Afghanistan, or Korea for that matter. Failure of political leadership in every case.
Not sure that was implied in Nowut’s post. They could both be equally wanting in different aspects.
There are separate questions in play here: the ability to project power and the political will to use power projection – both occur over time.
Sundance has been careful to elucidate that he thinks current events in the ME are purposed (political goal) to end state in some formal recognition of a two state solution- with certain expectations for what a recognized Palestinian state would really be conceived for.
Thanks. I was opining that today’s political leadership appears just as reckless and feckless as of yore.
How much more blood and gold should we have wasted in Korea, VN, and Afghanistan? One drop of blood and one grain of gold was too much. Nothing outside of our borders is any business of the US government or responsibility of the American tax payer.
I would suggest the military leadership failed to speak the truth, which had consequences.
The military industrial complex won every one of them…
You have to be careful and specific in what you are claiming – the problematic aspects very often lie with political processes/constraints/decisions and not military proficiency/capability.
“What do you mean, biblical?”
Mayor Lenny
Got the data to prove your assertion? The ammo supply deterioration argument has traction according to my sources.
In the event, if your real point is that the American military has some serious issues when it comes to fighting a sustained war against a first world threat – you could very well be correct.
Let’s get real for a minute – there’s no way we can only produce 4-5k rounds per year. It’s preposterous to assume that if we needed more we couldn’t figure out a way. That’s what his premise hinges on, and it’s frankly, flaccid.
If you look at the leadership or lack there of, I think you will find “RoughandReady’s” comments, spot on!
Don’t worry. I read everywhere that the Ukrainians are winning. They don’t need our money. They will be deposing Putin by Christmas.
lol
Biden demands Congress gives him the money, or he will send our boys to die in Ukraine.
Sounds like extortion. Impeachable and arrestable.
Pretty pagan – throw virgins into the volcano god to get good crops or something.
Keep your religion out of our state affairs, Biden.
Wake up Gens XYZ. Biden sees you only as canon fodder. As well as a lifetime check book to pay for his Democrat vote buying today.
It’s always been that way.
Every national military plan issues in OPLANs and CONPLANs that assume “attrition” ratios – these drive manpower requirements, training resources, etc., etc.
I (as a very junior officer) was sitting in an aggregation of all aviators in my aircraft type on the West Coast (many, many years ago) listening to the daddy rabbit for all Naval Aviation when that reality descended upon me. Of course, it is all enshrouded in the patina of patriotism, “you’re the best of the best”, tip of the spear warriors (much of which is true!) which all nevertheless mask the “and expendable” part of all of this.
Meant to post National Military Strategy
Ol’ joe is the only one who is EXPENDABLE as far as I’m concerned. The man is an idiot.
It is an odd circumstance. The driving policies have been and continue to be set by others – one only has to look at who staffs all the key positions. The at once interesting and dangerous off script piece of this is Joe’s ego and history. His past haunts his present. He didn’t suddenly flower into a bonafide idiot in 2020! The pressures of the job and dementia didn’t suddenly metastasize into a blubbering fool. That’s been his burden for a long, long time.
But, yea, he’s a world class boob – who is being manipulated by cold, calculating people. And that makes him dangerous.
Ah the Russian Boogeyman, always convenient when you need to stir up hatred and launder money. I feel bad for the citizens.
The Russians are a problem. They have been a problem for hundreds of years – regardless of government type.
We just have gone about this according to a completely self-serving, strategically unsound, and, frankly, politically dishonest/incompetent/corrupt gameplan.
I do not subscribe to the “Russians” were pressured into this meme current among some on this board any more than the Eastern Ukrainians are historically Russian natives. That whole part of the world has been a meat grinder for empire wars since at least the 17th century. There are no “we were here first”champions of virtue.
I do agree that the Maidan coup was perpetrated by interests that are not Russian with goals that ultimately lie entirely outside that immediate region. In the grand perspective, there are no eff’ing heros in any of this (including Putin, the celebre de jour for some questionable reasons).
President Vladimir Putin, Bog te Blagoslovio i Blagodario i tvoju zemlju Russiju. Amin!
Venezuela is about to invade its neighbor…crickets
With CCP assist.
Source of your claim it is CPR?
China gets majority of oil from Russia.
I found this very informative.
Guyana-Venezuela crisis intensifies
☝️☝️☝️ The Duran
Exxon……
Why am I not surprised 🤷♀️💁🤷♀️
relocated to appropriate thread.
Another Obama like critter!
FJB, America FIRST and foremost!
Good Grief 😖😵💫
There are reports that the upper
echelon of both Ukraine military
and administration are falling apart.
Zalushny vs. Zelensky.
Arestovich vs Zelensky
They are now drafting 17-70 year old
males and actively recruiting women
to serve on the front lines. They are
already there and dying.
Ukraine troops are calling Volga and
surrendering more and more every day.
Zelensky looks more strung out every
day.
Finger pointing and the blame game has started.
We are blaming Ukraine and Ukraine is
blaming the West.
All anyone has to do is look at a map on
a daily basis 💁🤷♀️ wonder why our fake
news doesn’t show maps🤣?
Slow and steady Russia is grinding down
and demilitarizing not only Ukraine but
NATO and the EU.
Economically Russia is probably better
off than all EU, NATO countries.
They are making advancements in
military technology and production-
while still building up their trained military forces.
Their military industrial complex is
purpose driven vs profit driven.
Russia is building up alliances around
the world. Did our propaganda news
show the reception he got yesterday…..
Vladimir Putin receives grand welcome in Abu Dhabi – YouTube
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MBS Welcomes “Special Guest” Putin, Says Saudi-Russia Ties Helped “Remove Many Middle East Tensions” – YouTube
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The reception reminds me of when President Trump visited.
🤷♀️💁🤷♀️ and look at what has happened since
Biden was installed and our relationships with
other countries.now. Sad and pathetic.😡😡
Our government is being run by a dementia
patient and juvenile psychopaths.
The money Biden wants for Ukraine has
nothing to do with freedom,Democracy..blah blah blah.
Its all about politics and the grift of Biden
and our corrupt politicians.
Blood money.
And I will raise one heck
of a ruckus if our government ever
mentions sending our troops to
Ukraine, Iran…or Taiwan.
The grotesque irony is even Russia does not want kleptocrat Ukraine once this is over. They just wanted to protect the Russian heritage residents in eastern Ukraine from Zelenksyy’s breach of the Minsk Accords.
The shards of what ever is left of Ukraine go to the highest bidder. Sunshine patriots have already left Ukraine by the millions. Crimea always belonged to Russia for centuries. And Kyiv already deposited their “aid money” in offshore accounts.
Bravo. Jaye sees the truth and dismisses the propoganda.
It appears Russia is fighting a war of attrition to maintain control of their Eastern Oblasts buffer zone. His initial thrust towards Kiyv was a tactical to disrract Ukranian attention while he occupied the Eastern Oblasts.
If Putin wanted all of Ukraine he would use “shock and awe”( like “WE” do) Putin doesn’t want to have to police Western Ukraine nor other countries. Russia wants security from Western/ NATO hemogeny
Biden MUST be impeached and removed.
A good dose of POTUS Kamala Harris is now well timed for the 2024 elections. Obama can pull Joes’ strings in secret while he bumbles around in public on Jill’s short leash. . But nothing can hide Kamala Harris’s complete incompetency.
Jill must drink in order to be able to put up with ol’ joe. I know I would!! He talks when he shouldn’t, he LIES when he talks, and cleaning up after him must be a thankless endless job. Well, she did want the money he could bring her way so she is getting what she asked for. Pretty soon HE will have to hold HER up when crossing the lawn. Why do you think they take so many vacations? More for Jill than for ol’ joe.
He won’t, but new Squeaker of the House Mike Johnson has a “biblical world view” – and he will rise above his contribution to the ashes of this Republic and ascend to heaven… with co-annointees like McHenry who’ll ascend with his little gavel still firmly in hand; Ohio’s Turner and his HPSCI friends in Mordor and Sequoia Capital; Louisiana’s Garrett Graves; Alabama tough guy Mike Rogers his ascent slowed only by his pockets stuffed with DoD lobbyist donations; Bakersfield bound “still in the fight” (against the Heartland) McCarthy sensing like Colo’s Buck $eeking CNNMSNBC contracts , et al, ad infinitum. Most are unconscious to the many and still growing existential threats facing this Republic. In terms of life span I have crested the peak. Excluding the good young men my wife and I diligently raised, and now our grand children, my only real fear is I won’t live long enough to make the coming Fight. I believe the worst is yet to come – and at some nearing point will in retrospect be thought of as “The Good Old Days”.
Joe will kill our children before he gives up his cash flow. Is this like ransom?
Spoken by a man that sold Afghanistan to the terrorists.
I would like to see Biden impeached. But that will just put in the the next communist in line for the job. And Miss brainless will toe the line. They all stick together. With, of course, the help of money grubbing rinos
We could impeach biden but we’re only a year out from the election and he’s busy trying to find ways to cross-up DJT. He’ll never get it done because even his “handlers” are stoopid, so the chances of having biden in office again are somewhere between slim and none. A good konk on the head would end the problem in a hurry but NO ONE wants COMMALA in the WH for even ONE DAY. Good God, I’d be on my knees for the next 11 months. We ALL would/should. We also need to get rid of the squad, w ho want incarcerated people to have the opportunity to vote. My husband passed away when he was only 65, he had a DUI when he was in HIGH SCHOOL and was never able to vote after that. He wrote to our local Senator (who was a friend, we thought) and he didn’t do a thing to help. But while my DH was alive, he always said if COMMALA is ever in charge, there will be no America left to worry about. He would, I’m sure, now say the same thing about biden the old coot.
We should have left Afghanistan by Feb 2002. Nothing in that cesspit was worth a drop of US blood.
OK Pedo Joe. We ended up losing in Afghanistan because of you and your stupid retreat. Now you want our overweight pronoun Army to go up against the Russians so you can keep your money laundering operation going in Ukraine?
We ended up losing in Afghanistan because like idiots we tried to build an American style Republic in a 3rd world Islamic cesspit. The only way to have “won” was to have brought all our troops home by Feb 2002. Populations are not fungible. What worked for a nation of British Protestants will not work for a nation of Afghan Muslims or even a “diverse” population in the US as we are quickly finding out.
Very True. And it won’t work in Ukraine either.
Senile death merchant: your money or your children’s blood.
Thank God Se7en republican lead by Graham stood up to Biden and his illegal immigration policies today 12/7, saying NO funding for Ukraine, Taiwan or Israel without Biden halting mass ‘catch & release’; Graham said ‘Biden can stop illegal immigration without Congress and has chosen to ignore our existing immigration laws.
Additionally, Biden & the Dems did put money into the supplemental bill for the southern border BUT only to speed-up Mayorkas processing more and more illegals, not slow or stop the border problem.
Build the wall first. National security begins at home.
Extreme Republicans are playing chicken with our national security, holding Ukraine’s funding hostage to their extreme partisan border policies.”
I know, right? A solid majority of Americans realize that lack of a border is going to destroy our country, but Joe’s evil spinners now mischaracterize that entirely rational position as being extreme and partisan. Nothing extreme about playing chicken with WWIII to protect the family business in Ukraine.
Joey thinks he’s unpopular now, then wait until he starts a draft.
I can see it now: “Hey kids! The good news is I am waiving all your student loan debt! The bad news is you’re all drafted” FJB.
Creepy Joe and his Clown World fellow travelers are absolutely intent on starting World War 3 with a nuclear power. They are desperate and panicked and see this as the only way to win in 2024. Every single thing they say is a lie!
This will be a test for the new House Speaker and congressional Republicans. If they cave on this outrage then we will know the fix is in and nothing has changed. This is nothing less than political blackmail.
Consider this: Biden is acting as if he doesn’t need congressional approval to start a catastrophic and senseless nuclear war. That by itself is grounds for impeachment.
As Rush would say, what a plastic banana, good time rock and roll BS premise. As Sundance has pointed out, the entire Ukraine war is smoke and mirrors. We see nothing on the ground, but Hamas, journalists are imbedded before they even go in. WTF is up with that?
Biden commits a strong arm robbery. Your money or your kid’s life.
POTUS Kamala Harris is a gift for GOP 2024 complete sweep. It is time to bring her on.
Doesn’t the President need to get approval from Congress before entering the US into war? Is this administration prepared to send our soft military foot soldiers into Russia? Have they not considered the tremendous casualties or escalation in to WWIII?
Is launching a war a strategy to stop elections later this year? If so, it is long past time for counter measures such as impeachment.
They know according to this Army War College report. Upwards of 3600 daily casualties. Which is the reason why the draft has been thrown around lately.
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/army-war-college-report-predicts
I hear music in my head: Biden’s swan song
And now, the end is near
And so I face the final curtain
My friend, I’ll say it clear
I’ll state my case, of which I’m certain
I’ve lived a life that’s full
I traveled each and every highway
And more, much more than this
I did it my way
” HOG SH*T”
Russia may / maynot encoach nato allies one day, but its not today over Ukraine
The politicos in DC are way beyond insane!
The time has passed for the American people to put a stop to this. Maybe the DC maniacs had better return to resent history, when the eastern block countries and Soviet Union itself, where their people began to remove their tyrants from power. Ceausescu, how many times do these tyrant all of them have to be reminded of what has happened to past tyrants?
So Joe will bypass Congress and declare war himself… like a dictator.
Double dog dare ya, Joe. Put Hunter back in the Navy and send him to the Black Sea. In a rowboat.
FUKraine grift….no more of our tax dollars..$33+Trillion in debt to help Azov nazi military in stilettos and tights….not the 51st state….
We had Peace and Prosperity w Trump
Trump2024
FUKraine isn’t a democracy either…..FUKraine grift must end….
I say, let’s go! Biden can stand and look at his watch while thousands of our young men return in caskets. It’s a duty we have to do no matter how painful, Joe will say. I say let’s go further, re-institute the draft, and include pregnant women, trannys, even convicts and mental patients in it this time. Isn’t the military designing flight suits for pregnant women now? Got flat feet? Sorry you get to go. Maybe the trannys will find a good Ukrainian doctor to chop them up while they get shot at.
The American people will only rise up against these evil communist maniacs when they feel enough pain. I say bring it on because that might be the only way to get through to the massive number of uninformed out there. Let’s actually encourage SlowJoe and not impeach him because we need him there with his senile incompetence trying to say he’s doing a good job, in total contradiction to what the public knows. In fact, republicans should protect him because the longer this goes on, the more people will turn against him.
Hence Trump’s legitimate stated fear of Nuclear Warming prompted by Biden doing alot more than just poking the Russian Bear.
The Usurper has still not explained what US interest is served by supporting Ukraine and risking war with a nuclear armed Russia. As he stated, if Russia were to attack a NATO nation then we would be obligated to help them pursuant to an agreed upon treaty. Ukraine is not a NATO nation. We have no obligation to them.
The idea that we have to fight some other country because of what they might or might not do someday in the future is ridiculous. Clearly, the only reason we are supporting Ukraine is so that the Uniparty can keep the graft going through the MIC.
Certain Ukraine interests who have “given loans” to many Biden people can not be exposed. Ukraine has likely told SleepyJoe, either fund us or we tell all and much of the money is flowing right back to the ones that are being blackmailed.
That is the only thing that makes sense.
Not to be naive, given it’s nothing new, but precisely because of that we become de-sensitized to it and no long stop to just consider this level of wickedness, to be willing sacrifice so many other lives in a Nuclear War just for personal monetary gain and maintaining concealment. Such sick people.
a 2023 DOMINO THEORY update,
with a Tbs full of MONEY LAUNDERING
I may be wrong but I think O’Biden and Blinken, need Congress to approve! O’Biden and Blinken can suck each others ducks and they will feel much better as they go over the cliff!
I’m not as worried about Russia as I am about China. Am I alone in this??
Sounds like an argument for the US to withdraw from NATO ASAP and use those troops, money, and equipment to guard our own border. While we are at it, bring all the troops home from everywhere out side out own borders.
Joe is careless suggesting US vs RUS conflict could break out. This is the kind of stuff gets people killed. The commanders of our troops in POL and ROM probably had to change their drawers when they heard this.
Better if POL and ROM kick out the US, right out of their countries. Regardless what the fake media says, Poland and Romania do not care about Ukraine.
Ummm, Hey senile old man check that War Powers Act thingy! It might cause those plans just a few problems!!!🫢
Anyone heard any limp wristed GOP speak out against this?
Are we really obligated to defend a NATO ally which fails to spend its minimum required military funding?
Under general contract law, a party in breach of a contract cannot successfully sue to have other provisions of it enforced.
This is Contracts 101.
UN Article 99. Nikki, name 3 provinces. The Putin isolated. Ursula, most powerful. U/1 – YouTube
☝️☝️ Alex Cristoforu
Just the first 45 seconds are worth
watching. The rest is pretty good too
Biden, you are going to be long remembered as the fraudulent president that stole the 2020 election. We don’t care if Putin wins! Ukraine can go to hell for all I care! You didn’t care that Trump won and you stole it from him! So shut up and leave now if you had any decency in your half working brain, human scum!
Amen Amin!! Idemo Putin!
“I just did a meeting with the G7, which was one of the issues we discussed — all of the European leaders. We are prepared to stay with us — stay with Ukraine, and our European friends are as well.
I wonder, how much money have the other members of NATO poured into Ukraine? Or is NATO just upset the American cash cow is drying up?
https://x.com/townhallcom/status/1732491983917093361?s=20
Remember this John Kirby retired as an Admiral. God help us.
https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1732856685591458056?s=20
Biden is nothing but a potted plant.
Armed Robbery. They are literally demanding we give them money while pointing guns at us.
Russia Outproduces West in Drones & Artillery Shells as Ukraine Goes on the Defensive – YouTube
☝️☝️ The New Atlas….4days ago
He shows maps! Also backs up with articles his
summaries.
While The West Doesn’t Know What To Do, Russia Continues To Act Harshly. Military Summary 2023.12.07 – YouTube
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The Fall | The Russians Captured Leopard 2a4 | All Eyes On Bakhmut Front. Military Summary 2023.12.7 – YouTube
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Two updates today from Military Summary 😳
I look at the maps daily from different sources
and I sure in the heck don’t see the “gains”
Biden and cronies are talking about🤷♀️💁🤷♀️
And this is probably why our propaganda
news does not show maps😵💫😊
The Big Guy is working on his retirement fund and will say anything to get billions more for Ukraine. Meanwhile our borders are wide open, our military is being depleted, our roads and bridges are crumbing , inflation is soaring and our economy is at the cliffs edge.
Lord help us all.
Napoleon blew it, Hitler blew it, but Biden’s gonna pull it off.
uh huh
Came across a story about corruption in the “European Parliament”, people who were bribed by Qatar. These governments are all bought and paid for
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar_corruption_scandal_at_the_European_Parliament