The truth has no agenda, and it certainly doesn’t care about your feelings. Remember that, because it is the core of this assembly.
RFK Jr. recently spoke of internal polling showing that his third-party independent run would pull more votes from Trump than Joe Biden. Many people refused to believe the statement and demanded to see the polling. Well, here it is:
You will notice the Joe Biden percentage of voters (38%) doesn’t change when Robert Kennedy Jr. is added to the equation as a third-party independent candidate. However, the Trump support drops from 40% to 38%, essentially wiping out the lead that President Trump would hold in a general election over Joe Biden.
Given the intellectually honest assessment that RFK Jr., as an independent run, could never win the general election, it may annoy some people to accept his decision to run as an independent only carries one motive – to reduce the Trump vote. However, as much as you may not want to accept that reality, the data is clear – and it makes sense.
Many right-leaning or politically homeless Trump voters have spent a great deal of time celebrating the positions of RFK Jr. and projecting a positive opinion toward him. After thinking positively about him for so long, having to accept that RFK Jr. may not be as decent, honorable and/or altruistic in his intentions can be a painful admission. I get it; but the reality of the situation doesn’t change.
At CTH we accept things as they are, not as we would wish them to be. Cognitive dissonance is not appreciated here, and the reality is that RFK Jr. has a large following of supporters within the MAGA-hood. He has been talked-up for almost a year.
RFK Jr is one of the most popular people on Rumble, and all of the content containing him is very well viewed and received. It factually makes sense that some of Trump’s support would transfer to RFK Jr. given the nature of the political climate in the United States. I’m sure that once Trump’s team review their own independent data, we will likely see a shift in tone from Trump toward RFK Jr.
Here’s the bitter pill to swallow. RFK Jr. has already admitted that if he changes from Dem to Indy, he will hurt Trump more than Biden. So, if RFK Jr. does actually change from Dem to Indy, his intention is to pull from Trump’s support and assist Biden. That’s the reality of the situation.
The truth of the thing doesn’t care about how difficult it is for you to accept the thing. Nor do I.
I accept that RFK Jr. is going to try and support Joe Biden by pulling votes away from Donald Trump. After all, he is a Kennedy.
RFK Jr. is not an ally regardless of how many invested voices continue to claim he is or remain unwilling to reverse course.
Also, there are 2 other polls out that indicate that RFK would put Trump in the white house.
i’ve seen those, as well.
and the truth will not care that one is more accurate than the other, this far out. the only link above does not take us to the tabs or internals of the cited poll to determine, for ourselves, which is the most accurate.
It depends on how RFK2 campaign advertising sells him. A conservative Republican or a woke climate change pro-abortion diversity Democrat. We’ll see soon I expect!
In these polls they always poll more democrats. Pffffft.
Those polls are not paying attention to the groups that Trump has been gaining from. See the Baris video.
As Baris reminds us, “These elections will be won or lost on the margins.”
A 1-2% flips things.
So, there are people who will not vote for Biden, independents, disaffected Dems, including women and some blacks.
Right now, in polling, a certain % of them are polling as “Trump leaning.”
Throw in Kennedy, and they flip.
You know who Dennis Kucinich is? Former Dem House member, always a fighter for “the little guy”, from the Midwest.
Kucinich is RFK’s campaign manager: he knows the kind of towns in the Midwest where folks are not at all used to putting an “x” next to a Republican candidate, yet they KNOW that Biden has stabbed them in the back.
Add JFK to the ballot, and their “Okay, this one time I’ll vote for a republican” gets pulled back to vote for someone they know is a democrat.
It’s a problem.
My belief is that right now, Trump and his staff have to plan a really tight speech that lays out how their lives will be impacted–specifically–if Biden is re-elected and simply tell them a vote for a candidate who can’t win, will be the nail in their coffins, now and for the next generations.
Take a deeper dive on looking at dem factions. There are *always* some women, minorities, and independents who tell pollsters this far out they’re “leaning” toward the republican because they’re so fed up with the economy and identity politics. The emphasis here is flirting with the other major party. They aren’t paying a ton of attention, and they aren’t gonna vote 3rd party or for a radical anti-establishment democrat who thinks the CDC, FDA, WHO and and most of the State dep are corrupt. They won’t do it. They’ll go back to Biden or maybe not bother voting.
Populist Midwesterners are a good target for RFK – but remember, Trump’s built an alliance with them over 8 years. They crossed the bridge to put an “x” by the republican candidate in 2016 or 2020. This group is more likely to stick with Trump than throw away a vote on 3rd party. This group wants their vote to count.
There is a flank of RFK/Trump cross-over on the left — probably some of those Midwesterners but the plugged-in, hardcore leftists from anywhere who see how corrupt everything in the democrat party has become. They’re with Trump on trade and foreign policy. They think he already won two elections and they aren’t going to vote 3rd party and risk handing it to Biden or his monstrous replacement. Remember – the left feels burned by third party votes. They’ve had it beaten into them that voting Nader gave us Bush.
RFK is way more dangerous for the dems than for MAGA. He legitimates to a different audience a narrative that MAGA dominates. The dems have lost more credibility among their rank and file voters than it seems. I can tell, I’m around these people all the time. They’re only hope is that genuine opposition (MAGA) is never legitimated to a large enough cross-section. RFK speaks to the cross-section. Which is better for MAGA in the big picture.
The only poll you need to keep in mind is the one Robert Kennedy Jr references. That is his frame of reference for his decisionmaking.
If RFK2 really expects to win he has to appeal to the majority of Democrats not just skim votes from President Trump as a spoiler. It depends on how his campaign advertising sells him and what he wants.
RFK doesn’t intend to win. I think that is the point.
Well, we won’t see him in any primary debates for either party. If West runs, too, are the networks really going to put on an Independent debate? They will if they want to lose money.
Without being on the debate stage, it will be easier for Republicans to tell the public just who this guy really is.
I wish he could debate. His ignorance on issues such as the border shines through when he speaks. He also shows his way to problem solve is to set up committees to figure out how what to do.
His approach is similar to those in academia.
Unstable Junior
is
against President Trump.
Junior is anti-MAGA
Junior is therefore
anti-America
It is the frame of reference for the cheating machine. They have explained the count ONE YEAR AHEAD OF TIME.
When people wanted Trump to start his own party, I agreed with them, and was disappointed that he chose not to. But when he said he would rather clean up and rebuild the R party, I couldn’t help but admire him for it.
So now, here is RFKjr who is seemingly being rejected by his party and choosing to help them, anyway.
I’d have much more respect for him if he chose to compete against the DNC’s candidate with hopes of cleaning up and rebuilding the D-party.
The fact that he didn’t tells me he’s part of the 2024 cheat plan.
He’s being compensated to disrupt the election. He wins regardless. Maybe figuring on garnering a post in addition to $.
More girlfriends?
And that He is weak. He knows He cannot fight the system. The system feeds Him through His lawsuits against Pharma.
Thank you Dave. And yes the poll that counts with respect to RFK jr is the one he follows.
The truth? RFK jr wants to continue to destroy the energy sector, climate change BS, continue the police state, destroy the 2nd Amendment. He doesn’t hide his views. They are identical to the Marxists agenda
Sorry Sundance, beginning to ask myself what is your agenda? That is my gut instinct.
My vote is for the only man in this race that is a born fighter! Trump 2024!
The truth has no agenda.
Sundance’s agenda is decidedly to help save our constitutional republic. What is your agenda?
I think Sundance is just letting us know the game plan of the dems
and RFK Jr.
Regardless of who runs in the dem party, the independent
party or the rino party
its “Get president Trump”
I am not sure if he said that they are collectively
trying to destroy President Trump, whether it is
financially, legally or winning an election.
But, that is what is happening.
Yes, indeed, Amjean.
Yikes. One of us has a reading comprehension concern, Renee. I’m pretty certain it be you, not me. The way you have structured your comment it reads as though you question Sundance’s “agenda” and follow up with your steadfast support for President Trump. Here, here! Please do vote for Trump, but what am I missing? The way I was taught to read, the above post by Sundance isn’t very complimentary to Mr. Kennedy. Care to elaborate on what’s untruthful in Sundance’s post? Educate us.
I too wondered about reading comprehension in this instance.
He is not going to win. So what difference does it make at this point?
wtf?
So now what?
Destroy Bobby’s credibility and expose anything and everything about him for the next year.
Counterattack
and counsel others on the idiocy of single-issue voting.
Touché
I think you are correct Black Knight, RFK’s radical views need to be exposed and spread far and wide.
Renee is correct RFK is all in on climate change and wants to destroy the energy sector. He’s also anti 2nd amendment. People have a surface knowledge that RFK is anti-vaccine, anti-Fauci, anti-CIA-deep state and they like those things, but they don’t know what his other views are. We should all make sure they find out.
Said he believes in climate change but not by these drastic policies…..if we are going on the attack have the facts right
Arresting dissenters, er I mean “Climate Deniers” is a bit extreme, ya Think?
His words.
And those words are incompatible for a politician with the USA and it’s Constitution. (HINT Treason)
He said they should be in jail. https://rumble.com/v2kgqdi-climate-change-deniers-should-be-in-jail-rfk-jr..html
Yep, he believes climate deniers should be in jail: https://rumble.com/v2kgqdi-climate-change-deniers-should-be-in-jail-rfk-jr..html
Is anti fossil fuel: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/robert-kennedy-jr-on-climate-change-140205979.html
He blamed the NRA for a school shooting in Florida: https://thedailyusnews.com/i-told-you-so-robert-f-kennedy-jr-reveals-his-true-anti-gunner-nature/
Yes, I agree Sundance, he has agreed to be a spoiler, probably promised a position in a Newsome admin, my guess is they would give him a nothing position and laugh at him. Just a guess.
Yes. We are the keyboard warriors, and our mission is to inform others of the facts.
Wasn’t he mainlining heroin at one point?
Agree. The more he is exposed, the more people will see his limitations.
Get him to speak as much as possible because his ignorance about things other than his favorite topics shines through.
At every opportunity hit him hard on what he would do to help the economy and inflation. Then point out how his energy policies are the same as the dems and they are killing the economy.
Confront him on how we are close to losing the dollar as the world’s trading currency and how that will devastate our economy. Ask for his solutions. His ineptitude will be on display for all to see.
Don’t lose sight of the economic issues with Ukraine, Southern border and woke spending. THOSE are the main things, everything else is not pertinent to your fiscal survival. I am not saying that there are not other VIP conservative issues being hammered right now, there are several, I am just saying we must focus on the bottom line.
Please don’t shoot the messenger but what do you think would happen if DJT met with RFK Jr and offered him a position as director of HHS or the creation of a new committee to completely overhaul Big Pharma/FDA/CDC?
President Trump had talked about doing that early in his first term but then he, unfortunately, listened to Bill Gates, who told him that would not be a good idea, so he scrapped it (another casualty of the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax perhaps?)
Kennedy is spot on regarding the corruption running through the entire jab crime syndicate and he knows more about where Fauxi has buried the bodies than almost anyone- if he REALLY cares about that issue as much as he says he does, then he should work together WITH Donald Trump, because it will not be addressed by any other candidate and he knows it!
If he insists on running as an Independent, knowing that he CANNOT and WILL NOT win, then it is clear that his interests do NOT lie in trying to fix the colossal problems within the IC and the total forfeiture of our Legislative process to Big Pharma, Big Tech, and the lobbyists!
Are you old enough to remember the Kennedy years….Jack, Ted, Bobby?
The answer is “no” to anyone in this family.
I am amazed that there are a few generations of Americans who don’t know that JOe Kennedy, RFK’s grandfather, along with mayor Richard Daley of Chicago, stole Illinois from Richard Nixon in the POTUS election of 1960.
The Kennedy’s benefitted from a made-up narrative all of the Kennedy’s and the assassination of both brothers kept serious writers from revealing the truth of who they were–ambitious, entitled, corrupt and used to working with the mob.
Maybe he is angling to get bidum or maybe he is angling to get something like HHS in Trump ad. JMO Biden is clearly not in line with RFK thoughts on big pharma, nor does he like bidum climate change policies, or weaponized FBI, so why in hell would he support bidum?
Newsome would be worse by the way.
Either Newsom or RFK would end our country with the same result. They are for all intents and purposes the same.
Because he want to “belong” to be accepted by the party of his family perhaps? The Dems treat him as a complete loon because of his position on vaccines. Big Pharm owns them.
Nit a bad idea. Put him in a position that we agree on.
I totally agree. Make him head of the FBI or AG. His family has been on the receiving end of the FBI.
He already said he would never run with Trump, and now having said he is running, I think the chances of him changing his mind are nil.
Also, much as I admire the work he has done on vaccines, on pollution, he is a very volatile man, he could feel he could use an offer from Trump to shore up his campaign, especially if he felt he could win. He is not a stable personality.
OK, got it. But Biden will not be the nominee. It’ll be Newsome so we need to start seeing polls for that scenario. Watch for Baris over the next few weeks start giving us numbers. Democrats will rally around their uber liberal candidate and skewer Kennedy who will have no money and cannot win. Trump will figure it out and do what he has to do to win the Presidency.
In the end, every voter even thinking of voting for Biden has to be made aware that his vote will push Biden back into office.
This poll is a picture in time, time stamped 13 months out.
Many MAGA supporters like the idea of RFK Jr as an “outsider”, against the deep state, trying to bring back the good old days, Camelot, etc. I would like him too under these assumptions. Said that here before.
The problem is the assumptions are not based in reality. When you get down to individual issues, he may be more extreme than Obama or Biden, at least as bad.
When attention gets trained on him, he will drop, perhaps fade out completely. No one who is a Trump supporter will leave Trump and vote for RFK, save for a few that are protest votes.
RFK is the highest he will be well before voting starts. I suspect he is near the peak now.
I think you are spot on. We see this every presidential election cycle. There is all kinds of speculation about some candidate, massive excitement in the news, then the candidate hits the trail and chokes in the limelight. The thought of an alternative can be seductive, but seeing it in real life is nearly always much less so.
“The RamaSwammy effect”
That’s good.
ALL BY DESIGN.
The communist democrats are 10 steps (if not more) ahead of the RINO side of the UniParty. RFK, Jr will be set up just like Bernie Sanders.
With RINO’s like snake McCarthy, who does need enemies or opposing Kabuki theater parties? What deal did the snake make?
that seems like he answered just fine. it was the WRONG answer, but he answered nonetheless.
i would only say… G.D. his institution.
the institution of what?
Isn’ that almost the same response that Pence gave to justify His betrayal ? To save the institution.
Yeah, no.
I do not believe that voters are interested in Kennedy.
i realize its some medical thing… but even if i WAS interested to hear more, i have yet to get through more than about 2 minutes of an interview with him. its like nails on a chalkboard. i just can’t do it.
Unfortunately, there are still a lot of idiots that think they should vote for someone besides Trump because they want to vote for someone who can actually win against the fraudulent election. 🙄 They don’t realize that the left only fights the ones that can hurt them. If weak trump supporters voted for a candidate that wasn’t being harassed by the left, that means that candidate is a Rino. So they’d be helping install an effin rino!
Incidentally, if RFK Jr.’s polling is correct and nothing changes between now and November 2024, this would be an instance in which a ranked choice election would almost certainly help the Republican candidate.
People’s Pundit runs through some polling on a potential three-way race between Biden, RFK Jr. and Trump. Some of them show that RFK Jr.’s candidacy gives Trump an even bigger lead over Biden. https://rumble.com/v3mgn6p-episode-375-inside-the-numbers-with-the-peoples-pundit.html
No need to panic or to assume RFK Jr. is motivated by cynicism just yet.
However, Rich Baris (the People’s Pundit) concluded from all he saw when he went deeper, that it’s bad news for Trump that RFK is going Indy.
He’s says, “No bueno!” He’s a strong Trump supporter.
He promises he’s going to do his own polling on this issue now that the Kennedy announcement has been made.
I am 100% Trump; but, I will say that he 100% blew it on that death jab and he won’t f*&$#g quit bragging about it!
Yeah, yeah, I know, he didn’t mandate them. Still, he facilitated the whole process and enabled the deadliest, global scam on humanity and the largest wealth transfer in the history of western civilization. I just read that the year following the Jab rollout, more people between the ages of 18 and 45 died than in the Vietnam War. Information was from life insurance actuarial tables. That’s the key takeaway for Bobby. And it’s a biggie.
I am of the belief that he was deceived by his enemies, Fraudci, et al, and taken advantage of by those he trusted, Jerod and his buddies. Nevertheless, Trump owes the American public an apology. And if he can’t apologize, he needs to zip it.
no he didn’t
you should know better
than to post lies
on a site where most
know the truth
I’ve heard a few people complain about that, but I chose to do what was best for me regardless of anyone else’s recommendations…even Trump’s, whom I love, trust, and admire.
I abstained…I’m a proud pure blood. And anyone that can think for themselves could make their own choice. Like you said, Trump didn’t mandate the jab.
There is no one that will please 100% of the people 100% of the time. So, even with that one flub, I will support Trump 100%.
If anyone should get zipped, it’s you.
President Trump did the best that could be done in the situation. He is not responsible for big pharmacy and health bureaucrats like Fauci being corrupt. He also did not mandate shots or lock downs, except for the brief time as demanded by health bureaucrats, and which if he didn’t do they would have piled on by branding him incompetent.
In hindsight, people are starting to see the corruption. But the reality is for most people this is hindsight and there is still not a general consensus.
Like all of us, President Trump has his opinion. We’ll see how that goes as more facts are brought to light.
I’m thoroughly disgusted by everything to do with covid, including medical providers, but President Trump owes no one an apology.
There is no reason to panic. There are a lot of moving parts in this effort to save America.
Keep the faith. Rely upon God. He is in control.
We already know the fate of the wicked.
Book Deal* on the horizon.
* Denotes huge upfront payout “advance” aka money laundered payoff to run via publishing house. All the books fly off the (warehouse) shelves …:)
RFK Jr is in so tight with the Clintons that I wouldn’t be surprised if injecting him into the race wasn’t a Hillary Clinton operation.
*******
David D. Chapman
@davidchapman141
The RFK 2022 Ripple of Hope Ward was given to Zelenskyy!
Wake up people. RFK is not our friend.
Cont…
(Video linked in tweet)…
Make that a Ripple of coke…or fecal matter.
RFK will attack Trump on his vunerable “Godfather of the vax” and “Operation Warp Speed” flanks….where neither Biden or Newsome can go.
If Trump can’t counter that then it will damage him.
Biden rolled out the vax, not Trump, mandates were under Biden not Trump. Trump did not make the vax, Pfizer did, don’t confuse the person who paid for a sound product with the person who delivered a flawed product.
If you read the DoD contract that Pfizer signed, they do not have immunity, they are criminally liable if they do not deliver a “safe and effective product.” They went after the fact to get children vaxed, but when they signed the contract that was not part of that agreement.
What do you mean “if Trump can’t counter”?
When have you heard him not counter what’s been thrown at him?
By the way, it’s”President Trump.” He has earned our respect.
RFK has been sterling on several important issues. Thus he has earned a lot of respect among MAGA.
However, when it becomes more widely known that he is pro-abortion, anti-gun, pro-lbtq in the schools and anti-parental rights, that MAGA support will hemorrhage. And you can be sure that Trump will make sure everyone knows about RFK’s progressive leanings. Thus I still believe RFK does more harm to Dems than to Trump come next November.
I agree. And don’t forget about RFK’s devour fondness of the “Climate Crisis”. He’s already setting up his own get-rich-quick scheme.
Devout, not devour.
You had it right with devour, even if autocorrect bit you .
They are all in on it. RFK JR. Is as phoney as the rest of them. Too bad. I was in denial of Ron DeSantis when Sundance brought up his plans, Never gonna doubt Sundance at the Last Refuge Again. HE KNOWS!
👍👍😉
Here it is in detail from one of our own, the best pollster of all, Rich Baris. Today on Rumble he went into detail showing us that JFK’s entry as an indy is not good for Trump.
The places that it would hurt Trump are the South and the Midwest.
Baris is going to do his own poll in detail on this subject. In this Rumble presentation today, he interprets the results from other polls on this question.
Episode 375: Inside The Numbers With The People’s Pundit (rumble.com)
My first question when presented with a poll is, does the pollster have an interest in the results?
Puddin’ believed polls that told him he could defeat PDJT.
Polls taken a year before an election are the stuff of dreams.
When people really find out what RFKJR is all about, they’ll wake up. He has some positions that tickle libertarian fancies, but he’s a socialist.
Don’t independent candidate(s) poll better, but get less actual votes? 🤔
I am comfy. I was comfy when DeSanctus came on the scene, and I’m comfy now that the RFK Jr. path and intentions are even more clearly exactly what I predicted when he first announced.
I’m not disillusioned either. Not a fan of dynasties or “American royalty ” or puffed up Camelot myths. I’ve seen drunk Kennedys and the oohs and ahs, there’s Kennedy at the party! I’ve seen Kennedys come around campaigning, trading on the name, and not been particularly impressed.
Sheep follow the “stars.”
Spit.
I’ve also seen JFK Jr. get his own special room to take the NY Bar exam on the 3rd try in Albany. And then pass. Strange, huh?
Wouldn’t it have been nice had we all had that level of consideration.
Double standards should have no purchase in America. Not for Bidens and not for Kennedys either.
In any event, playbook known. The DS has run this splitter strategy far too many times for President Trump not to have an answer.
“We have it all”
Although I don’t expect President Trump to be the one directly taking Jr. out by revealing his feet of clay.
i don’t have an issue with Robert Kennedy Jr. running
I do have an issue with supposed MAGA voters
thinking he belongs in the MAGA community
WTF
How dumb are some people?
Yep.
I think the COVID/Vaccine nightmare is the one attraction for RFK JR.
Are you sure? I can’t wait to hear Mr Anti-vaxxer’s explanation as to why only ‘vaccinated’ guests were invited into their home?
RFK, Jr. is first and last a Democrat. If he can install a Democrat in the White House, that’s what he’ll do.
He’s completely unfit to be president. He’s an empty suit.
Who cares if he calls out what every American with an intellectual curiosity (ie everyone hitting this site for years) couldn’t connect on their own (mercury aluminum etc in vaccines download excipient packet insert from CDC …wow RFK).
RFK must know he is clueless about how to run a country like ours. For our benefit. This clown is chaff and awful controlled opposition. Anyone supporting him as an actual president? Exposed.
A few points.
1) Zogby’s not a trustworthy pollster. He’s a DNC operative.
2) Also polling in total makes no difference. Polling by State is what counts.
3) And of course all this needs to be considered in light of Biden’s “most diverse vote fraud organization in history”.
Appreciate the warning from Sundance, but ‘Junior’ Kennedy is not going to take any votes away from President Trump. He’s a radical enviro-kook, and if anything will pull the leftwing whackos away from Newsom, or whoever ends up running as a Dem. All President Trump has to say is, “Junior the Kook is a nice man, who lost his daddy and his uncle the President when he was young, but since then has gone off the deep end with crazy ideas like putting oil executives in jail. He is not MAGA, and we are.”
See where this poll is coming from: Zogby.
This should tell us all about how little trust we can put in this.
Baris explains why Zogby’s popularity plummeted. I had even wondered where is the Zogby Poll, once one of the three most referred to polls.
Ah, says Rich, the Dems began blacklisting him after Kerry lost to Bush because Zogby had been wrong, had assured them that Kerry would win by a margin that did not materialize, as we know
I am one who has long admired Kennedy for his honesty and courage in many areas.
I have supported his stand on vaccinations in general .
Now I will be leaving my support for CHA his website to protect children. He appears to be a traitor in sheeps clothing if he intends to hurt Trump.
Remember polls are wrong most of the time. Keep thst in mind.
Or has Trump found his VP pick?
I will admit that I like some of the things that Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. has to say — particularly in the arena of vaccines.
That said, I would never vote for him over President Trump.
There was a poll on Twitter (X) recently, which asked this same question: Would a vote for RFK, Jr. pull more votes from Biden or from Trump.
I voted that it would pull more from Trump, and was quite surprised with the results — as the vast majority believed that more votes would be pulled from Biden.
As Sundance clearly states. RFK, Jr. is a Democrat (and a Kennedy) first. As such, he will not change his stripes. Doing so is not part of his DNA.
I don’t believe Biden will be in the race….
Sundance, you know who I take with me to every Midwestern state–the South as well–Peter Navarro in his rolled up sleeves.
Let him list for them what will happen to their job and when, what will happen to their kid’s jobs and when, what will happen to their real estate and when
And to make sure that the MIDDLE CLASS Dems who are still going to vote for Biden, understand what Biden has said about changing their 401ks and treating the money in them the way non-retirement investments are treated–taxes on cap gains, reporting of dividends as income, etc.
AS I understand it, there is a wealth of info on what Biden has said for years about his ideas to change 401ks.
This needs to be made the center of as many ads as possible against Biden.
I know my Dem friends all have 401ks. Just telling them what Biden wants to do will incense them
If you think people go berzerk at the mention of Social Security, try fussing with their retirement funds.
I’m voting for Trump no matter what but RFKjr is saying important things that need to be said that Trump is not saying on the jab, on Big Pharma and regulatory capture of the FDA/CDC, etc., and vaccines in general, and on the corruption and historical malfeasance from the US intelligence community (Trump does cover that well). RFKjr is also a strong voice on ending support for the war in Ukraine, as is Trump. RFKjr can articulate very well the history leading up to the current conflict and the US’s central role in it.
The 2024 election is 14 months away…an eternity in politics…so quit worrying about RFK Jr.
His percentages are off as well. If President Trump truly had unfavorability rates hovering around 60%, the Dem and Republican candidates would be laughing right now instead of crashing and burning. RFK might initially interest some of the more left leaning republicans and a number of leftys who don’t want the country razed to the ground, but once Trump engages, RFK will be pulled in and his more extreme views displayed.
Remember that Kennedy’s goals go beyond the 2024 election next year.
He is NOW “in politics”.
He will try to build a base from among not only middle of the road average Dem voters who stupidly have followed the party because they have always hated the Republican party and Trump as well, but Kennedy will try to build a base of support with some Congressional members…
I suspect when RFK has to actually state his policies beyond covid shots traditional republican voters will be aghast to find out he is just another radical leftist.
The kennedys have always set out to shtupp everyone they possibly can, why would 2024 be any different?
Double up the steal.
Dems have figured out already, that they cannot possibly steal that many votes from Trump without getting caught, to get a 2024 win. And they are going to need way more than 2020.
So it appears to me that, syphoning from Trump, to give to Kennedy, to give to Biden,(well Gavin), might just be a sleight of hand, for fake ballots.
That’s the narrative being built before our eyes. Kennedy special polling, sure.
The ‘ole polling’ trick. Wink wink.
The mail in ballot presses are catching on fire, real early.
You can bet your bottom dollar it’s going to be Newsome. He’s younger than Big Mike and would have more energy to serve two terms.
Sayonara USA
RFK Jr. is not an ally regardless of how many invested voices continue to claim he is or remain unwilling to reverse course.
I have said this from the beginning and have gotten upset from the beginning when attorney Robert Barnes tried to claim otherwise.
Baris will inform Barnes, for sure.
I know one thing: anyone who thinks RFK knows anything about dealing with China and getting American companies to get their asses back to America is engaging in Unicorn Thinking.
He wouldn’t even be able to find a single person in the Dem side of things–his side–who knows how to keep those people’s jobs or how to bring them back if they’ve lost them.
He just has a famous name.
If RFK, Jr., aka The Plant, pulls more Rs than Ds it just shows you how far left the country has drifted. Not buying it, Sundance. Nope.
There is no way Kennedy hurts Trump more than Biden.
And we have one idiot potentiality running to the left of Biden that WILL hurt him badly.
If Trump loses we are done. People have to wake up to that eventually.
Kennedy hurts Trump – He siphons the indy’s, disaffected youth, catholics, never-trumpers and rhinos (who both could relent at the last minute as lessor of two…), away from our side. Plus fed-up Dems who are waking up.
There have been no better magicians than the Kennedys. NEVER TRUST A KENNEDY!
Never trust a Demonrat. But I repeat yourself (sic).
Ok, so yesterday Sundance said Biden would not be the nominee, so in a match up with Governor Hair Gel what is the result of an RKF Jr Independent run then? Would RFK not run if Hair Gel does run?
It’s a common tactic in union elections, usually pushed in the latter stages of an election.
I’ve liked a lot of things RFK has said and done over the last 3 years that’s he’s been on my radar .
The first chip in his armor came from a recent Jimmy Dore interview on Israel.
He was so far from reality on the subject, I couldn’t finish watching it.
And the the way he acted in the interview,as if he was an authority on the subject was kinda shocking . Maybe even scary, as in if he didn’t actually believe what he was peddling, he’s a very skilled liar .
Bottom line , he has no shot in this race, and he knows it , so why is he running ?
That’s the question people need the figure out .
Skilled liar? Ah yes, well He is a lawyer.