The truth has no agenda, and it certainly doesn’t care about your feelings. Remember that, because it is the core of this assembly.
RFK Jr. recently spoke of internal polling showing that his third-party independent run would pull more votes from Trump than Joe Biden. Many people refused to believe the statement and demanded to see the polling. Well, here it is:
You will notice the Joe Biden percentage of voters (38%) doesn’t change when Robert Kennedy Jr. is added to the equation as a third-party independent candidate. However, the Trump support drops from 40% to 38%, essentially wiping out the lead that President Trump would hold in a general election over Joe Biden.
Given the intellectually honest assessment that RFK Jr., as an independent run, could never win the general election, it may annoy some people to accept his decision to run as an independent only carries one motive – to reduce the Trump vote. However, as much as you may not want to accept that reality, the data is clear – and it makes sense.
Many right-leaning or politically homeless Trump voters have spent a great deal of time celebrating the positions of RFK Jr. and projecting a positive opinion toward him. After thinking positively about him for so long, having to accept that RFK Jr. may not be as decent, honorable and/or altruistic in his intentions can be a painful admission. I get it; but the reality of the situation doesn’t change.
At CTH we accept things as they are, not as we would wish them to be. Cognitive dissonance is not appreciated here, and the reality is that RFK Jr. has a large following of supporters within the MAGA-hood. He has been talked-up for almost a year.
RFK Jr is one of the most popular people on Rumble, and all of the content containing him is very well viewed and received. It factually makes sense that some of Trump’s support would transfer to RFK Jr. given the nature of the political climate in the United States. I’m sure that once Trump’s team review their own independent data, we will likely see a shift in tone from Trump toward RFK Jr.
Here’s the bitter pill to swallow. RFK Jr. has already admitted that if he changes from Dem to Indy, he will hurt Trump more than Biden. So, if RFK Jr. does actually change from Dem to Indy, his intention is to pull from Trump’s support and assist Biden. That’s the reality of the situation.
The truth of the thing doesn’t care about how difficult it is for you to accept the thing. Nor do I.
I accept that RFK Jr. is going to try and support Joe Biden by pulling votes away from Donald Trump. After all, he is a Kennedy.
RFK Jr. is not an ally regardless of how many invested voices continue to claim he is or remain unwilling to reverse course.
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And just yesterday, we had all of these RFK fans, acolytes & influencers on here trying to persuade all of us that Bobby socks running independent as a third choice would benefit Trump and hurt Biden/other DNC nominee.
My, my, my and just like that the evidence comes 24 hours later of Sundance’s claim being valid and justified yesterday and all of us who agreed with and defended him.
AGAIN!
AND, it’s all a DS/IC op, just like SD stated also – the Splitter.
Biden will run RFK as Vice president…
I swear a lot of the RFK Jr trolls all have the same story and have DOD internet addresses that Sundance told us about awhile ago.
Funny , So true , I remember it well , just like it was yesterday , oh.wait , it WAS Yesterday …(Meant to reply to Black Knight) ..
😂😂😂😂
Wow!
I don’t how you know that about DOD addresses, but if that is true, that is concrete proof of a government influence operation and part of the IC op.
THIS IS LOOKING MORE AND MORE like the Ross Perot, Bush and Clinton “three way.”
Except Clinton was the only one who liked a three way.
We would have been a heck of a lot better off with a Ross Perot presidency. Could have avoided, or delayed, “that giant sucking sound!”
I voted for him in the Oregon Republican primary, as a non affiliated voter. It was the last time they had an open primary.
True
Ross Perot garnered 19 percent of the vote in 92.
Same as the above poll shows RFK Jr getting.
Very disappointing that he will run as an independent.
Under the assumption that Newsom takes Bidens’ place in the primary, RFK Jr running as a Democrat would severely damage Newsom, thus leaving a Trump win.
Therefore his decision to run as an independent shows his purpose is to attack Trump, not Newsom.
Triple Bingo!
Retired Magistrate here: I kept/keep telling people, never, ever trust a Democrat!
Yes ma’am. I think I just saw you so that just an hour or so ago.
😭😭😭😭
And commenters even suggesting Trump pick RFK as his VP!
That too.
That’s one shark jump too many , I think … …
We knew this was not going to be easy. I’m so very sick of these legacy grifters trashing our lives.
I guess you missed that poll today that showed Trump benefiting from RFK Jr running as an Independent.
Yeah, I did miss it, could care less about its results; and I trust Sundance’s assessment over any poll you are referring to.
We can question which way Bobby socks affects which candidate for the worse all day long, but the bottom line is this:
In a two way race with any sort of legitimacy regarding election integrity, Trump WINS!
Three way race is too fraught with uncertainty.
So, either intentionally or not, Bobby Boy is a Splitter.
Don’t worry – Ron B , from a long time ago, like yesterday , is a RFK boy . He got very angry at me and hurt my feelings too btw , when he felt I was criticizing his analytical analysis of the RFK’s positive move …I don’t want to trigger him again ( or his friends) so I will stop there as he may hurt my feelings again – I don’t know if I can handle 2 days in a row …
You are killing me tonight.
😂😂😂😂😂
So, for those conservative individuals that have reservations about Trump, which of Bobby, Jr.’s positions will they be most drawn to? Radical “climate change” legislation, abortion on demand, a command economy, confiscatory taxation, sweeping gun control laws? Sorry, I’m not buying it.
Well said.
Many “conservative” individuals are in fact slow motion progressives. They would agree with that platform as long as they convince themselves it will not be as extreme as all that. And if they dislike or have reservations about President Trump they are not true MAGA voters.
Your comment is exactly why the Republican party is so divided. If someone is on the MAGA bandwagon and doesn’t agree with everything put out by Sundance, somehow they are not true MAGA voters.
I say this as one who hasn’t missed watching one Trump rally since he began them. But according to you I am not a true MAGA voter.
This putting others down is getting a bit tiresome.
WTH? I don’t see anything where Cristina put you down or claimed you were not MAGA.
I saw where she called out some ‘conservatives’ that might not necessarily be MAGA.
And as far as bringing Sundance into it, I’m pretty sure CTH is one of the leading MAGA blogs, if not outright the leading, in existence.
Can you give one specific major issue or event that Sundance has been wrong on? Please, do tell.
And yes, Cristina is correct when she states that if one does not support Trump, one is not MAGA.
For God’s sake, Trump created and defined what is “Make America Great Again (MAGA).”
Trump is MAGA and there are no other presidential candidates or wannabes who are.
And that is the bottom line!
Let’s not forget his ever-popular plan to imprison climate change “deniers”
I want to see the cross tabs for this poll! I like to look at the DETAILS!!! 🤔
How about no mandatory vaccinations and no war in Ukraine. Not enough to sway most …….. but powerful positions. If Trump quit taking credit for the damn vax, he wouldn’t lose any votes.
How about the One Issue -Covid /anti Vaxers -Libertarian /MAGAs that routinely criticize.PDJT ..
Trump antipathy is the common calling card of all on the left who oppose him.
As the socialist/communist regime realizes that they are losing voters they prop up Bobby Jr., lifting him from the rubble of outdatedness, family irrelevance, and political obscurity to prop up the Kennedy name and legend once again to front a more “moderate” image for those who are leaving the socialist/democrat party and those in the middle who may not like Trump so much but would vote for him anyway as an alternative to the Biden/Harris/Obama/Newsom morass.
His candidacy and career are a farcical and based only on his father’s legacy. If his name were Bobby Kendall he wouldn’t have more than a minor social media influencer’s readers, much less draw a crowd in any public square.
Once the Machine’s Campaign is done with him he’ll be catapulted back onto the scrapheap of obscurity from which he rose, like a croaking and worn-out Phoenix bird, unless he gets a job carrying their water.
A lot of conservative voters don’t want an establishment candidate and aren’t Trump-only voters. Once the media turns on Trump after the primaries (the media and Dem superpacs are promoting him now to the base to fire people up over the indictments, just watch how it changes if he wins), many of those voters will go to RFK. Sundance is right on this one.
So you are saying that conservative voters will throw President Trump under the bus for a far left candidate. Got it.
Some may like RDS supporters, but not true MAGA.
How many of those issues has Kennedy been talking about since his recent rise to national prominence?
Pretty much none of them.
He has been a one-trick pony since the covid panic.
His non-stop focus on covid response/vaccines/injuries/etc is all that most people (including potential Trump voters who would be lured away) know about him. And anti-covid-totalitarianism is much more likely to attract voter who would otherwise support Trump.
The only way to know about Kennedy and his other PC-Prog positions is to dig and dig and dig. Which most won’t do. They’ll go by his non-stop campaigning against vaccines.
I hear you.
It sucks.
I do believe a lot of people will vote RFK because the Democrat party has gone to the demons.
If anyone in MAGA votes RFK? They aren’t MAGA.
RFK will not make American great again. He wouldn’t know how. He has particular skills that I appreciate.
RFK is for government regulation. He is, after all, an old style Democrat.
I’ll do my part to make sure anyone I may know understands what RFK really stands for.
Also, and this goes way way back.
My grandpa informed me, when I was a little girl, that the Kennedys were “bootleggers” that got into politics and got rich.
There are still people alive who remember the history of the Kennedys.
I had ancestors who were East Bost0n residents who knew and told us of the Kennedy’s (papa Joe) lives and fight for power, which old Joe K. got. He was a ruthless SOB, from what I am told.
He got his foot in the door by marrying Rose. Her daddy was the mayor of Boston I think.
Millions…know…
True
” If anyone in MAGA votes RFK? They aren’t MAGA.” You are correct. End of.
DJT all the way back to the WH.
RFKJr is the Make the Administrative State Great Again candidate
My Uncle Teddy, The Big Guy where besties remember
Biden is an old style Democrat ……. who has been co-opted.
These precious polls are nothing, and we are over a year out from the election. I don’t care about reading tea leaves or casting my peace of mind onto someone like RFK. If the Lord is in it he will open and close the doors required. Resting on these clowns for peace will never leave us happy.
Yup, and while I have not said anything positive or negative about this poll, I want to see the cross tabs! The devil is always in the details! 🤔
Agree! Polls are for table dancers!! And flags! I know…different spelling. Poles!
Disagree. The wing of the right that has been talking up RFK has been the anti-Covid vax crowd.
That wing is not going to vote D or I.
the never trumpers will of course find an enjoyable outlet. But how many of them are real honest never trumpers? Jonah G for sure. But how many more? Is it significant?
my proposition is that IF Biden is D nominee, then RFK takes votes from Biden.
IF it’s Newsome v. Trump then RFK takes votes from Trump.
Baris broke down these polls today and basically showed that he’s already preventing votes from going to Trump in major key states. Biden loses no progressive support.
Baris also said 2022 was a slam dunk.
Those people must not really be Republicans then.
I would be very careful with polls right now. I suspect dirty tricks from Democrats claiming they are Republicans in these polls. Pollsters are not that adept in smoking them out.
Yes, but they showed Biden losing 0 % and that doesn’t pass the smell test!!!
Most of the anti-Covid vax crowd aren’t Trump-only voters. They’ll go with RFK over Trump or an establishment nominee.
Our elections and polls are rigged. If elections and polls were accurate, Trump would be the overwhelming winner. They don’t need a third person in the race to steal it from Trump. But having RFK Jr in the race will serve as the convenient cover story if they are successful in stealing it again.
I think the owners of this country (the banking cartel) will do everything they can to stop Trump–he’s not onboard with their Great Reset plot against humanity.
thats where i am at. ALL of these manipulations are ways to throw chaos and fog of war “plausibility” into their next steal – they are not reflective of an ACTUAL result of voting. we lost that in 2020 and decided to consent to be governed anyway.
Amanda: I agree with you.
Excellent point – cover stories make a big difference in selling the steal. Like that Colorado turned blue because people came from California (how many people leave California to spread California ideas, vs. how many leave to get away from California ideas?)
I posted SD’s previous article on RFK on or Patriots forum and not a single comment….this is because so many of them now support RFK. They are mostly politically naive people who just don’t get it. I don’t do anything with them…they bore me. And, as Jesus said, “Don’t caste your pearls before swine”. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but these people are not worth talking to.
Nothing, and I mean nothing, has come out scrutinizing RFKjr’s ideology other than the vaccine. It will. All we’ve seen of him is doing backflips and pushups. Reminds of Paul Ryan pumping 15lb dumbbells. And everything is fair game.
Mary Kennedy felt “lost” and “alone” before her death on May 16, 2012, a neighbor told the New York Daily News. The 52-year-old mother of four also struggled with her estranged husband’s relationship with actress Cheryl Hines.
An autopsy revealed today, May 17, that Mary died of asphyxiation due to hanging, CNN reports.
A close family friend told the New York Post that Mary felt “used up and tossed away,” by RFKjr after he filed for divorce in May 2010 after 16 years of marriage. Mary was charged with DUI three days later and her license was suspended.
“She was deeply troubled, abusing alcohol and prescription meds,” the family friend said. “She had cause. She was used up and tossed away by Bobby. That was awful.”
Ask the voters, “Who is this lady?”
Wow… she really resembles Caroline Kennedy. Yikes. They certainly have a “type”.
Not excusing what RFK Jr did, divorce is one of the worst emotionally wrought things that could ever happen to a person. Ever.
Very true.
Correct. RFK has not been vetted yet. There is lots to “vet”. I bet most of it he would not want wifey to know about.
mayflower child: RFK has been vetted through observarion of multiple generations of Kennedy behavior. He’s a “No.”
IIRC Teddy’s wife had a similar story – Not to mention Chappaquiddick – Mary Jo Kopechne.
Look into his diary and what he did with his wifes body after burying her.
That is his second wife. She gave her sister RFK jr’s diaries before she killed herself.
The dumb ass had left them in the attic when he moved out of the marital home. Interestly diaries covered the period of JFK Jr’s plain crash. So you got to see first hand the different levels of assery, in the family. His cousin Caroline and her husband being the prize winners. Even Caroline’s brother JFK jr. didn’t like her. Everyone was at each other’s throats. Millions at stake.
RFK jr acted so egregious after his own wife’s death, her sister took the diaries
to the NYPost. I understand he was unaware he had misplaced them until the papers hit the street.
RFK jr has lost at least 1, if not 2 siblings to drugs and a niece. I believe he had a serious issue with smack himself.
Lost another brother Micheal to the Kennedy gene of arrogance. Michael was married to Frank Giffords daughter. Died playing ski football when he hit a tree. He was newly divorced at the time he died. The divorce was a spectacular scandal that set Boston society on its ear. The collateral damage was mind boggling.
Then there was his sister’s divorce from Cuomo, when she went off the rails with the polo player in Greenwich. Made the season
Serious consistent pattern of bad, bad, bad all the way around.
“A Season In Purgatory”
Part Two
How do the dynamics change when Joe presumably is forced out, with Newsom possibly running? I think Jr would take more, or equal from the Democrats. Or does that make no difference?
RFK Jr. may be a nice guy, but there is legitimately only one opinion that he gets it right on. Every other idea he has will involve more government intervention and puts us in a bigger hole than where we are now. This news is not very nice to hear. I can not in good conscience vote for an RFK Jr. even on my worse day because of guns, energy, education, AA, state autonomy (especially on water ownership) and all kinds of issues are a humungous wild card with this dude.
“Many right-leaning or politically homeless Trump voters have spent a great deal of time celebrating the positions of RFK Jr. and projecting a positive opinion toward him. After thinking positively about him for so long, having to accept that RFK Jr. may not be as decent, honorable and/or altruistic in his intentions can be a painful admission. ”
Spot on Sundance and the SAME can be said about those that listen to Joe Rogan and Glen Beck
Sundance, my friend, it is not difficult for me to accept the truth that a Democrat is human scum. Heck, the Uniparty is human scum! Remember Satan wants to sift us like wheat as Christ told St. Peter he wanted to do to him. We must never let our guards down. So according to the information in your article no Patriot should have anything to do with this Democrat possibly running as an Independent. I think the whole thing was a setup from the beginning. For one thing on the day he announced he was running for President in 2024 one of my 5 sons flew down to the event because my son is friends with this guy named Del Bigtree who has his own show. I think it is called the High Wire but I may be wrong on that name. He has been going after the government and Big Pharma ever since the Covid jab came out. My son was even on one of his shows because my son was a victim of the government going after him years ago because he was selling raw milk over state lines and he thought that the vaccines he had received when he was a child had given him an autoimmune disease that is very serious. So my son is on the same crusade as this Del Bigtree and they became friends. So when my son said he was at the event because Del Bigtree had told him he was going to be there also I wasn’t surprised. My son talked with Kennedy and had pictures taken with him. I told my son Kennedy is a Democrat and he is for ABORTION which all my 5 sons are absolutely against and he’s for climate change another deception. Also my son was upset that Trump had pushed really hard for the vaccine because my son thinks vaccines gave him this terrible autoimmune disease he has had ever since he was 11 years old. So I asked my son, “ do you think Trump was trying to kill people by his Warp Speed initiative?” My son didn’t answer. I told my son Trump thought the vaccine would save people’s lives and that’s why he was behind it. My son has changed his mind on supporting Kennedy and is back with Trump now. Thank God! But, Sundance, there are a lot of people that think Trump was all in on this Covid jab with the government and he should have known better. I read part of the book The Courage To Face Covid 19 by Dr. Peter McCullough and Leake and it states that Trump tried to get Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine out to doctors so they could prescribe it but different non-profits were fighting against that and prevented it from happening. There’s a psychiatrist (forgot his name) who put out a book I think its name is The Global Predators and We Are the Prey. In his book he talks against Trump how what he did was wrong and he hurt a lot of people with Covid jab. So I advise you to start putting out a lot of articles about Trump on this vaccine story as fighting against the government and trying to help us to be protected from Covid and articles on what this Kennedy is really up to and how he’s no different than others trying to take Trump down. This is very important. And go watch Del Bigtree’s show The Highwire. It may be on YouTube but not sure.
Janice,
That was a very informative post.
I read through the whole, very long, with no paragraphs, essay.
I’m not being critical, just honest, because I would like others to take the time and read through your message.
At the top of this page, you will find an option entitled “Comment Guidelines”, which are very helpful.
What I have seen as far as the difference between Del Bigtree (yes, his show is called The High Wire) and RFKjr. is that Mr. Bigtree has been against vaccines for a very long time, especially warning about the high number of childhood vaccines given in a too short period of time and RFKjr is only against the Covid-vaccines.
Huge difference and a telling one. Mr. Kennedy didn’t even come out against the Covid-vaccines until AFTER he, Kennedy, was not invited to serve on the White House Covid oversight committee.
Operation Warp Speed was the use of government agencies to cut through red tape to develop a vaccine to stave of millions of deaths – which is what President Trump was told, by his advisors and those inside the government health agencies – and so that is something to be proud of, to get the red tape out of the way in order to save millions of lives.
That President Trump was being lied to, about the deadliness of the virus is another story altogether. How was he to know that people who had spent their entire careers in government service ‘to help’ people would turn out to be sociopaths high on their own power?
And the Covid-vaccines that Mr. Kennedy rails against blaming President Trump for – were not approved for use until AFTER President Trump was out of office and all those mandates and closures rest at the feet of Joe Biden and Biden alone. President Trump had specifically left closures and restrictions up to the individual State Governors. Nowhere were vaccine mandates ever part of anything President Trump did.
Agree with you, the confusion on the topic of the Operation Warp Speed being different from the mandates and lockdowns, another thing that was solely in the hands of State Governors, NOT President Trump, is going to confound a lot of voters, especially young voters. Good for your son. It is encouraging to see that the young ones are able to see the distinctions.
p.s. If you double click after a paragraph it will show better spacing making posts easier to read; it seems most people simply scroll past when a comment shows up as a really long paragraph, that whole too long/won’t read mindset.
Kennedy has problems with many other vaccines. Not just Covid.
Peter Bregin, “COVID-19 and the Global Predators: We Are the Prey,” 2021.
People got sucked into this Kennedy because of what he said about covid and vaccines. He and his handlers knew exactly what this would do.
totally agreed, but once again its a valid question as to why thats a successful flank against Trump.
It really is not a “successful flank against Trump.” It’s another *false* narrative, that only the most ignorant people would ever take at face value, from a FAKE news ENEmedia that is hellbent on destroying MAGA.
It’s sad that anybody who is inclined to vote for President Trump would be suckered in by a “moderate” liberal.
RFK is just not what this country needs right. Trump is. We need someone determined to right the wrongs that have been done—through political INCORRECTNESS AND harsh facts. We cannot afford not to have Trump
Right now, people like most of us here are the only ones who really know anything about RFK, Jr.
When Trump outs his actual policies, ideas, and ideology, these poll numbers will change with the speed of light.
I’m waiting to see how Trump “brands” Kennedy. Then we’ll see what happens.
The fact is, RFK Jr is preparing to throw sand into Trump’s gears. Recognizing this, the question is: How will we make RFK Jr into another porcelain bowl-circling Ron DeSantis? I don’t have a ready answer, but I’m going to give it some thoughtful consideration.
I would bet Trump and his team already have the answers for THAT!!!
I can’t disagree with you on that. I’m wondering what I, you and others can do as well. Certainly, we’ll take Sundance’s advice to stop anyone who thinks RFK Jr is going to hurt Biden by saying Biden is NOT going to be the commie nominee. (I did that today and it had an impact on the other person). I’m just wondering what else we can do in addition to that advice.
Ask yourselves these questions:
Do you trust the FBI?
Do you trust the CIA?
Do you trust the CDC?
Do you trust the elections?
Do you trust TNYT, WP, NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, FOX or MSNBC?
Then why you trust any poll? even the ones showing Trump ahead. They are all part of narrative manipulation. We should complete and totally ignore all polls. Period.
RFK Jr is a DEMOCRAT….end of story. Never in a million years will I be pursuaded to vote Democrat. I suggest President Trump enlist the assistance of Dr Scott Atlas to help straighten out any “vaccine” subterfuge sent his way, intended to be a whipping post. On pretty much everything else, he’s got a proven track record and a solid drum he can beat……nobody said it was going to be easy….I would like to see things made right, however. And, imho, there is only one man with the intestinal fortitude to do the job…….#TRUMP2024
Mr. Sundance believes that a ZOGBY Poll has no agenda?
Well, then, Mr. Sundance’s concern is valid, and so the corrupt, dissipated, and very probably alcoholic R.F.K. Jr. (Look at his face: it looks like an Easter candle in January) needs to be exposed for his corruption, dissipation, and addictions as soon as possible.
But what if the ZOGBY Poll is, in fact, biased to cause doubt, despair, resignation, and a loss of enthusiasm in MAGA Voters?
Well, then, Mr. Sundance’s concern is nevertheless still valid, and so the corrupt, dissipated, and very probably alcoholic R.F.K. Jr. STILL needs to be exposed for his corruption, dissipation, and addictions as soon as possible.
Either way, NO PRISONERS in this campaign! Our enemies are on record as wanting President TRUMP to be “utterly destroyed,” along with the rest of us!
So be it for our enemies! And R.F.K. Jr. is one of our enemies: look at the litany of Leftist causes which he supports!!!
I will repeat: NO PRISONERS!
I want to see the cross tabs on this poll, the devil is always in the details!!! 🤔
I heard him out, but I have an ironclad rule to never support a plaintiff’s lawyer for office
I believe this to be a very viable option. Even on the Republican side. It is certainly not DeSantis for the Trump bashers.
Kennedy is a ‘brand allegiance’ and people, sadly vote for shallow reasons. That takes the older voters.
He will keep the Democrats who have been leaning toward Mr. Trump.
The only other possibility is Progressive Democrats, they have been building the college vote, plus building their numbers.
This may take votes from the Camelot Legacy. We are all being conned regardless, by the Uniparty. Stay Focused.
What does dominion think and the voter fraud organization?
I read all the comments up to this point and decided I am going to wait and see. There are lots of variables involved. I do believe that if I was RFK Jr and had an opportunity to get even with the CIA for assasinating my father I would eagerly seize it. I did not see that discussed. And what about JFK Jr and the magazine GEORGE? Was that airplane crash ever resolved. I just don’t know if a Kennedy will jump in bed with the City of London/Wall Street that fast. Maybe I need to reread Machiavelli for the third time.
Lol…Your comment cracked me up😆. “I just don’t know if a Kennedy will jump in bed with…”
I’ve just never seen those words grouped together regarding a Kennedy before. 😉🙂
RFK admits it himself.
17 – 19% of the votes in a presidential election going to an independent?
Not gonna happen. It’s not the 1920’s or earlier.
It happened in 1992. Ross Perot got almost 19% of the vote.
I have warned against pro-abortion climate fascist Kennedy for months.
RFK Jr. by any other name would be an unknown.
Correct. I said this in another thread. What if his name was RF JONES?
Well, if old RF Jones was a moslem, he would probably have been honorcided long ago…
The country can’t afford another democrat green agenda president!!!!
It means $10/gallon gas, more inflation, and it’s a big win for China!!!!
People need to educate anyone that wants to vote for Bobby what the repercussions will be!!!!
I don’t put a lot of stock in polls, especially 13 months before the election…But I’d like to see RFK run, because he’s been telling the truth about a lot of important topics….
He also told a lot of truth about gun control…
Thank you;
it does look like the splitter strategy has moved into Plan B – can’t find any registered Republican candidate to make a dent in PDJT’s base so let’s find a Democrat to do the same thing but this time call himself an Independent.
Really don’t want to know what their Plan C is because that would be desperation mode.
Makes it easier to cheat President Trump. And obviously they don’t care what the peasantry thinks.
General Election polling with RFK Jr on the ballot.
Zogby poll
Trump 38%
Biden 38%
Kennedy 19%
Echelon Insights Poll
Trump 40% (+4)
Biden 36%
Kennedy 14%
InteractivePolls
@IAPolls2022
https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f1fa-1f1f2.svg 2024 GE: @EchelonInsights
(A/B)
(R) Trump 46% (+3)
(D) Biden 43%
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(R) Trump 40% (+4)
(D) Biden 36%
(I) Kennedy Jr. 14%
These margins makes hiding the steal that much easier! That’s the real need for RFK Jr to run as an independent! Looks like the Democrats and the deep state have finally figured out how to get close enough to President Trump’s poll numbers to easily conceal ballot harvesting to overcome any short falls! JMO
I like these two polls better! Probably better than the Zogby poll done for RFK Jr also!
RFK Jr was built up by the right. What happens when he gets attacked by the right? Many repubs and repub leaning independents will come around. Many of the anti vax repubs have yet to hear RFK Jr was pro lockdiwn, Masks and required covid vax to attend his Christmas party. The bloom will fall off the vine.
Also, what happens when Cotnell West gets added in to the mix? Rich Baris will be polling that.
Well, of course he’s not an ally. He never was. I said it when he burst on the scene. As Sundance says, HE’S A KENNEDY. And, he’s a leftist. His true purpose is not to help JoeMentia*, because JoeMentia* will not be on the 2024 ticket. His real purpose is to help get Newsom installed.
Next explain why the Deep State/DNC won’t give RFK Jr. SS protection.
It helps frame him as an outsider, and makes people tie him in their brains to the assassinations and so evokes emotion.
Trump has to paint Bobby with the narrative that he is just another green agenda Marxist who likes shutdowns ASAP!!!!
That means more oil wars to prop the currency, high cost of oil continues, more inflation, and it’s a win for China to control our energy!!!!!!
And make sure the people know how Bobby doesn’t even promote us having access to ivermectin and how he is weak and changed all his stances when the media pushed him!!!
The typical low information voter (both left and right) will vote for a cult figure. The only single issue the LIV is concerned about is the freedom to kill children. Apart from that the LIV will vote for a “star”. Thats what the bamster was. Thats what slick willie was.
The majority of Trump supporters, conversely, will vote for Trump because of his political philosophy and his love for the US Republic.
Kennedy appeals to those who want to be able to return to apathy and hedonism.
ZOGBY!!!!!!!!! How relevent are they anymore???🤔
Also, the really reputable ones like Trafalgar and Rich Barris allow access to the cross tabs, is ZOGBY willing to do that?
Just the other day RFK stated that on day one he would ban all fracking. This will absolutely kill our entire plastics industry and anyone who uses plastic in their products. Also, there would be no replacement parts like rear car bumpers.
RFKJuiceR is a stone cold leftpuke.
Not going to matter. Not being a Karen. President Trump Won. ” THEY” will not let the Lion back into the Whitehouse without a huge squirmish. Bloody knuckles…how things is…
Unfortunately, Reality Bites…President Trump will do what he’s always done…Develop a new strategic campaign offensive, adapt, and overcome…My parents are pushing ninety and during breakfast we review what Sundance and many Treepers on this thread discuss daily. My father mentioned about a year ago that MAGA will be Ross Perot-ed by RFK…My mother and I disagreed and constantly provided our reasoning point by point until we were blue in the face to my father, but he’d counter and wouldn’t budge…I guess we’re having crow for breakfast tomorrow…
There’s no word more hated than “QUITTING” in my family…We’ve convinced many in our extended family, friends, associates and even people outside our network who use to dislike President Trump to support him in 2024…I know many of them like RFK especially with his position on the vax etc. but their pocketbooks hurt more…We’ll just have to go full circle and sell President Trump/MAGA platform again…I challenge all of you on this thread to try to open someone’s mind each day, one person, outside your circle of family and friends to voting for MAGA/President Trump. I know it won’t be easy but invite them on this site and I know with God’s help and blessing, Sundance and Treepers will do the rest! This place is a treasure trove of great minds/perspectives, knowledge and wisdom…
As Sundance says this is just the beginning and it’s going to get worse, a lot worse…Get your affairs in order, get right with God. Keep your powder dry…God Bless you all!
Ahh yes… call it anything from controlled opposition to a demonic plot, the Fix is in.
Michelle wins, sooner or later, in a three-way race with the third party candidate acting as a spoiler.
Watch and pray – and keep your hand on the plow and don’t look back.
Looking at the big picture
What will need to be done
can not be spoken about on the internet.
Self preservation will be my focus from here on.
At least I will have a good head start over many others.
It’s depressing 😞
The way I see it is this. If Trump is on the ballot, he got my vote. If Trump for whatever reason is not on the ballot, I’ll vote for Bobby Jr. RFJ Jr. isn’t an ally but he’d be better than any Democrat or Uniparty candidate by a lot.
Split the vote, send it to the House. MAGA dies. Pretty easy plan. This is an Op, and the sheep will fall for it.
Not only are votes “taken away” from President Trump, but the presence of RFK Jr. on the ballot adds more mathematical room for cheating via: machine added votes, machine altered votes and mail-in votes.
I’m suspicious of this because Biden’s numbers don’t budge. Impossible. There are many dems who would vote for a Kennedy no matter what – it would effect his numbers. I don’t know how much, but it would.
Yes, you are exactly right and that doesn’t pass the smell test!!! 🤔
it’s possible he’s jockeying to be DJT’s VP
Please Lord no.
All I know is that I’m voting for Trump and nobody polled me.