I have been reviewing interviews, looking at discussion, and some of them I will share in the next few articles. However, for a solid representation of the state of our current dynamic, as it relates to the targeting of President Donald J. Trump, this interview below is a solid outlook from the detractors.
CBS News legal analyst Rikki Klieman and CBS News investigative correspondent Catherine Herridge join “Face the Nation” to discuss what’s in the indictment — and what it means for Trump. [Transcript Here]
Before getting to the video, it’s valuable to see Rikki Klieman representing the interpretation of the media outlook toward the indictment handed down by Special Counsel Jack Smith. It is also valuable to see CBS’s Catherine Herridge represent the defenders of the institutions, from the outside vulgarian personage of Trump.
Klieman buys the Lawfare narrative completely, including the framework of classified documents as opposed to documents containing classified markings. She sells the Lawfare outline as gospel and makes all assertions from that position. Herridge looks at how the bureaucracy responds to Trump, including how the institutions hold power of determination higher than a President of the United States.
As Bill Barr said emphatically earlier today, “The documents do not belong to Trump,” continuing with “The documents belong to the government who created them, not the man for whom they were created.” So sayeth the defender of the omnipotent Dept of Justice. This is where a sharp intellectual knife to cut through the chaff and countermeasures is needed, and notice no one brings up the visible and practical deconstruction point.
If the documents did not belong to President Donald J. Trump, then why did the government dump them in the parking lot of the White House and tell him to deal with them?
If the documents belonged to the government, and not to the man for whom they were created, then why did that same government give them to him and force him to take them to a location of his choosing? Can you see the obtuse argument fall apart when simple pragmatic questions are raised?
The institutions are presented, by the sellers of the Lawfare narrative, as higher than the authority of the President of the United States. This is how ridiculous our government has become.
Institutions are not omnipotent entities; they are buildings and networks full of people who facilitate processes that are an outcome of policy. Those buildings and offices are not the government. The elected politicians who we send to Washington DC are not subservient to the processes, norms and morays they determine within the bureaucracy that the politicians are in charge of.
The argument(s) against Donald Trump are akin to a business saying that all work product created during the tenure of employment belongs to the enterprise of the business and not to the employee. If you want to hold that line of thought, fine. However, you then need to reconcile that the business enterprise intentionally gave all the work product to the employee, dumped it in their lap, told them to take it and leave, and then comes back at a later date and says – we now need to review the stuff we forced you to take because some of it might not actually belong to you.
Does this happen anywhere else? Of course not.
The fact that the National Archives and Record Administration refused to take custody of the documents upon the end of the White House tenure, combined with the fact the NARA dumped those documents in the parking lot of the White House for Trump to deal with, is a direct statement the bureaucracy was telling President Trump these are your records. His records – not their records on loan to him.
The Presidential Records Act is the overriding legislative guidance for the flow of work product post term in office. These are essentially document arguments. The fact that NARA together with the Biden administration would weaponize the disposition of documents, they intentionally forced Trump to take ownership of, speaks to an intent within the bureaucracy that is transparently obvious.
Bill Barr’s entire mindset is based on a belief the institutions are of a higher power than the individuals we elect to control them. In essence, the President of the United States is subservient to the bureaucracy. This is nonsense. This is also why former AG Bill Barr was more concerned about preserving the institutions than stopping the weaponizing activity that flows from them.
President Trump could store his “presidential records” anywhere he wants to; they are his records.
Now, watch Klieman obscure the difference between classified documents and documents containing classified markings. Despite her pontifications to the contrary, the indictment is not based around any classified documents. The classification of the documents is technically and factually moot to the ridiculous point the special counsel is making.
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[Transcript] -JOHN DICKERSON: For more on the legal implications, we’re joined by senior investigative correspondent Catherine Herridge and CBS News legal analyst Rikki Klieman.
Rikki, I want to start with you.
You have been a prosecutor and a defense lawyer. So what stands out to you, now that you have read this indictment?
RIKKI KLIEMAN: I think what stands out, obviously, is the magnitude of detail in this indictment.
It’s not only that you’re dealing with 31 counts under the Espionage Act, which simply means the unlawful, willing retention of classified information, or even unclassified information that would hurt the defense of the United States and aid our enemies. It’s the detail of a speaking indictment.
We have to remember that much of this indictment, John, is to educate not only ultimately a court and jury, but it’s really to educate the public. Much of this indictment, in terms of the detail, may not even come into evidence, in terms of what’s admissible or not in the course of a trial.
What also strikes me, John, is, the overwhelming detail leaves the Trump legal team with real need to have powerful motions to dismiss, because, if this goes to trial, the way it reads, it’s rather overwhelming for anyone to be able to fight it on the facts themselves.
JOHN DICKERSON: And I want to get to that motion-to-dismiss question in a moment.
But, Catherine, you have been doing reporting about the risk assessment about just what was in these documents. Educate us on that.
CATHERINE HERRIDGE: Well, what jumps out to me, John, is when you go to the section the willful retention of national defense information, by my count, there are 21 top secret documents, and the disclosure of top secret information has the expectation of exceptionally grave damage to national security.
But what out — stands out to me is some of the classified codings, like TK, or Talent Keyhole. You don’t see that very often. That’s about intelligence from overhead imagery. For example, if we’re looking at a terrorist target, do we have such good visibility that we can count the hairs on their head? Can we see what they’re eating for breakfast on their terrorist patio?
Those are capabilities that we don’t want our adversaries to know that we have. And then also Special Access Programs, or SAP, these are highly restricted programs because of the sensitivity of the intelligence and the technology, such as stealth technology, for example.
Think of classified information like the Pentagon. Special Access Programs are these handful of rooms where there are just a limited number of keys to control and restrict access to that information.
JOHN DICKERSON: So it’s not just secret; it’s the top of the — top of the top?
CATHERINE HERRIDGE: Some of these are way beyond top secret, like, I said, Talent Keyhole, when you’re talking about Special Access Programs or SCI, sensitive, compartmentalized information.
These really are the crown jewels of the U.S. intelligence community.
JOHN DICKERSON: Rikki, let me ask you about a part of this indictment which seems to come — which comes from one of the former president’s lawyers.
Educate us on the crime-fraud exception, how it’s possible for a prosecutor to have this information. And is that a weakness? Because we know, from our reporting, that this is something that the Trump defense team is going to talk about, is the behavior of the prosecutors.
RIKKI KLIEMAN: We all believe that, when you go to a doctor, that there’s a privilege, that what you say and what your ailments are will remain confidential.
Same thing if you go to a clergyperson. And it’s exactly the same thing. When you go to a lawyer. You believe that, if you are a client, that what you say will never be disclosed to anyone, let alone in the grand jury or court of law. It’s called the attorney-client privilege. It protects all conversations relating to legal advice.
So, how did it get broken? That is, how did a court in Washington, D.C., a judge, and then an appellate court affirm the idea that you could hear, listen, read the notes and the voice memos of a lawyer to testify against his own client?
It’s called the crime-fraud exception. So what the court believed was, the conversations between Evan Corcoran, the lawyer, and Donald Trump were really in furtherance of a crime or a fraud, and he was ordered and forced to testify.
Now, one could say, well, that’s one and done. So now Mr. Corcoran is going to be a witness in this case, should it go to trial. But we have to remember that that took place, that decision, in the District of Columbia. Now we are in Florida. So can it come up to a new judge? Might a new judge decide that it is not admissible at trial? Yes.
Will that hurt the case? Not necessarily. There’s plenty of other evidence.
JOHN DICKERSON: Catherine, I have got two questions for you.
The first is, what happens if you’re just a regular old Joe and you have this kind of information? Legally, what happens to you? What’s happened?
CATHERINE HERRIDGE: Well, as one example, I have contacts who work in the nuclear weapons capability arena.
Let’s say you have a nuclear document, it’s on top of the photocopier, and you walk away, you leave it there. Your clearance is gone. You are out the door. There are immediate consequences.
JOHN DICKERSON: Let me ask you about a number of the president’s defenders.
Well, first of all, we should note, the current president is under investigation by a special counsel.
CATHERINE HERRIDGE: Correct.
JOHN DICKERSON: We don’t know much about that. But Republicans have brought that up in defending the president. They have also brought the case of Hillary Clinton.
You have been looking at that. Give us a sense of the apples and oranges or apples and apples in comparison with what’s on the table here.
CATHERINE HERRIDGE: Well, what strikes me, John, in this indictment is I think the special counsel, Jack Smith, specifically charged willful retention of national defense information in an effort to sort of blunt criticism that these cases may be the same.
If you go back to the summer of 2016, then-FBI Director James Comey said that they found multiple e-mail chains on Hillary Clinton’s private server that she used for government business that contained highly classified information, including these Special Access Programs that we just discussed, but, in his view, it should not be charged because he didn’t feel there was sufficient evidence of intent or willfulness.
Critics would say that even just purchasing the server was an example of intent. And then, finally, you have to look at just the scope of the information and also the timeline. But I think this charging of willful retention really is by design.
JOHN DICKERSON: Right, the facts of the case quite different. But thank you so much for that and for all your other answers.
And, Rikki Klieman, thank you.
And Face the Nation will be back in one minute. Stay with us. (link)
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With respect, SD, I disagree with your employee analogy.
The analogy I would say is closer is to the sole owner of a private company that solely deals in national security. Everything, all the documents, all the business is his to keep and do as he wishes.
The President is a monarch with absolute power in national security matters unless specifically constrained by constitution. The difference between a President and a monarch being that he is elected and is limited to two terms.
If he can initiate nuclear war he can declassify documents at will and he can declare documents in his possession as personal if he wishes.
And if NARA disagrees they can write him a letter.
Sundance – do you have the eyes of PresTrump’s attorneys and Don Jr and his attorneys on articles such as this?
The photos of boxes of Trump records on the White House driveway and the points you make about that would seem to be grist for defense arguments.
As well as the listing of records-act links Strykr007 provided on page 2 of the comments and his question of why an interim storage facility wasn’t arranged for PresTrump’s records
I swear, if PresTrump and DonJr don’t have at least a couple dedicated interns reading and summarizing Treehouse articles to be passed up to them every day, I question their basic competence
I agree.
You would think Trump’s lawyers would use the NARA against itself for forcing President Trump to take control of documents the NARA should have taken control of.
https://www.tumblr.com/captainconvey/719917682138447872/if-the-documents-did-not-belong-to-president?source=embed
Yeah but that’s not true. Trump hand selected those boxes himself and had his staff obtain them.
Gee never heard that before. Source?
No problem. He was the President and had total authority over the documents.
In addition to that, if Barr’s claim is true, why does the government not tell tell every outgoing President to leave everything and then themselves move it to a secure storage facility? Were that they case there would be an established protocol for the transition with a preset schedule for the move. There obviously isn’t one. And if there is supposed to be such a transition move and it’s never followed, that shows the government is incompetent and that Trump protected the documents better than they did.
The whole documents issue is just a side show for the main event. I’ve been posting on this board for months that the main event surrounds J6 and that trial will be held in Washington DC. Now Stewart Rhodes has come out and said the same thing in a interview.
The J6 tapes have been held under wraps because they are the key to showing that J6 was a set up from the get-go. The tapes are going to blow the feds narrative and wreck Smith’s case against Trump. It is imperative that we all pressure our elected officials to get the J6 tapes out as a preemptive strike.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/06/oath-keepers-leader-political-prisoner-stewart-rhodes-reacts/
“I’ve been posting on this board for months that the main event surrounds J6 and that trial will be held in Washington DC”
As AG Garland appointed Jack Smith as Special Counsel to indict President Trump (“engaged in insurrection”), I guess you don’t expect a prize for your prediction! Next will be trying to disqualify President Trump from running (Section 3 of 14th amendment). In 9/22, Otero County, NM Commissioner Couy Griffin (founder of “Cowboys for Trump”) was removed from office due to his J6 actions.
For those who are not aware of: Judge Amit Mehta sentenced Oath Keepers Founders Stewart Rhodes (57) to 18 years in federal prison.
“It is imperative that we all pressure our elected officials to get the J6 tapes out as a preemptive strike.”
Chief puppeteer will not approve this messages! [1] Rep MTG (R-GA) “told Real America’s Voice that it is too dangerous to release the footage because it could compromise Capitol security.” [2]
[1] Senate Republicans Cave To Dem Propaganda Over J6 Tapes (thefederalist.com)
[2] J6ers Can Go Rot in Hell: MTG Echoes Regime Talking Points – Claims Releasing Security Video from Jan. 6 Will Threaten Security | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft | 2
What exactly is your point?
They are out to 3 reporters. Has anyone heard anything from Solomon or Julie Kelly? Or the mysterious third entity?
That’s true, but again NOTHING IS EVER DONE WHEN THE TRUTH COMES OUT. So where does that ever leave us? OUT IN THE COLD AGAIN AND THE ENEMY WINS.
If I could upvote this more I would my friend. Back during the end of Trumps prior term as president I remember Sydney Powell and Patrick Byrne couldn’t even get in to talk with Trump. I suspected at the time SS was blocking access and to this day I still think at least some of them are running ops against Trump behind his back.
Trumps counsel always seem to be a day late, a dollar short and woefully confused. Any proper legal counsel seeking an edge against the deep state and not making regular visits to this site seems more like purposeful ignorance. The details and correlations expressed here on a regular basis could enable even a half wit lawyer with the proper tools to at the very least pose some proper and inciteful questions. Alas.. The more I watch the more kayfabe I see..
well said, thrawl
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Well said.
I’ve always had a way with words
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It’s embarrassing how time and again during lawfare how useless idiot Barr has become. A tool of state run propaganda. And even saying “iF true trump is toast. How obnoxious and tool worthy, he’s gaslighting the ignorant and stupid.
What he’s inadvertently admitting with the “if true” comment is that it might not be true because the DOJ is corrupt.
Fat and stupid is no way to go through life.
“Animal House” LOL!!!
President Trump’s Lack of an Established Permanent Loyal Lawyer
While the booked “legal experts” services to influence “Court of Public Opinion” in Talk Shows preference, their wording doesn’t necessarily meet trial court standard. From that point, their “expertise” don’t offer much relevant news beyond what we can already know about the case.
Cobbler, keep to your last!
From the time Donald J. Trump ran for Presidency, he advanced to a persona non grata. Eight years later, it’s moot to discuss, if
were his most effective enemies.
Noli Turbare Circluus Meos
The more successful President Trum became, the more the saw their circles disturbed, the more aggressively the “How Can we Get Rid of Trump” approach was waged. As DOJ knew that GOP “Leadership” tacitly support a hardball game, they appointed a Special Counsel, gave him every resources, the culprit and the order: Look for all sorts of offenses that you find in the criminal codex!
Why does President Trump Miss a Hencher?
Why does President Trump (and the huge MAGA Grassroot Movement”) not establish a long-term relationship to an experienced and well know (criminal defense) lawyer?
This person could have introduced to President Trump
When it wouldn’t have been good for otherwise: The embarrassing FNN performances of Jim Trusty and Alina Habba (paired with the question why these pinheads?) has been obsolete.
On the eve of his 77th birthday President’s criminal justice bag consists of:
Ongoing lawfare has been conducted against lawyers that have represented President Trump.
One by one his lawyers have had their law licenses threatened or revoked. Or law firms that have represented him have been on the receiving end of threats to remove their major clients.
I recall one lawyer (PA 2020 ?) who said she had to stop representing President Trump due to physical threats made, fear for her life/safety.
Dershowitz says following representing President Trump during one of the impeachments that he has been frozen out of his own community of neighbors and friends, an outcast.
Lawfare has made President Trump radioactive. Most big name firms and lawyers steer clear. There are some lawyers who have integrity and courage who are still in the fight with him.
Todd Blanche recently stepped away from his partner position at a major firm to represent President Trump in NYC Bragg case and will be with him in Miami on Tuesday. Hope he is doing it for honorable reasons and his not an enemy plant. So far he seems to be an honorable man who stepped away from his life into the woodchipper to do what’s right.
At least Dershowitz will be able to look in the mirror and sleep at night.
[O]ne lawyer […] said she had to stop representing President Trump due to physical threats made, fear for her life/safety.”
Linda Kerns [1]
“Most big name firms and lawyers steer clear.”
There are many reasons why President Trump has difficulties to hire skilled lawyers, one of them is his shift from a benefit to a liability client, another lack of megadonors. However, if well connected AFL (Stephen Miller, Gene Hamilton) don’t find a powerhouse, it’s says much about Trumps standing!
Todd Blanche recently stepped away from his partner position at a major firm to represent President Trump in NYC Bragg case and will be with him in Miami on Tuesday.
Before founding Blanche Law in NY,NY, he was Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft partner for five years. It says a lot when a new lawyer (from NY) is added two working days before the start of the trial. Are Alina Habba and Christina Bobb and still represent President Trump?
[1] Trump campaign lawyer under protection after ‘threats of harm’ (nypost.com)
The lead story everywhere should be Biden’s LLC’s and the money flowing into them from other countries; especially while he was Vp.
Sundance—The notation in the indictment that the 102 documents all had classification markings, this means that the Special Counsel obtained the UNMARKED documents he cited as counts in the indictment by subsequent searches of the boxes evacuated from Mar-a-Lago from the search warrant raid, OR he used the documents turned over to NARA by Trump in 14 of the 15 boxes. We need to know from which group of documents Smith got the UNMARKED documents, and he better be able to prove from which group they came since Trump surrendered those 14 boxes voluntarily. They better not have come from those.
As reproduced from the Twitter thread:
Correction—Unfortunately, the indictment DID describe the nature of the 102 documents found in the search warrant—they were ALL MARKED DOCUMENTS. So, from what group of documents did the UNMARKED documents come? IF the first 197 documents, those were VOLUNTARILY…
…SURRENDERED by Trump to NARA. If voluntary surrender results in no prosecution, as in the cases of Pence and Biden, then the unmarked documents used as counts in the indictment better not have come from those 14 boxes.
I think we can now see how important it is that CHAIN OF POSSESSION OF EVIDENCE BE CAREFULLY MAINTAINED BY THE PROSECUTION. Where the documents originated is critical, so someone had better know from what box it came.
Bingo!
I’ve been thinking the same thing.
Its may be in the indictment, I have not read it, forgive me if so. But was there a specific chain of custody for EACH ONE of those documents, i.e. from the WH to NARA, to Mar-a-lago, to the FBI, to DoJ?
Where did each document originate? And when and how did each document find its way from origin to become evidence?
As I recall, Trump lawyers were present at the Mar-a-lago raid, but not allowed at the FBI for the unpacking and documenting of what was found. Did the FBI sort through those thousands of documents at Mar-a-lago and viola’ document each one found/not found?
Not only to your point CJ (which is an excellent point, btw), but, I wouldn’t trust any of the federal beauacrcies with “evidence” as far as I could throw them. Remeber Schumer, [I paraphrase] “The intel agencies have nine ways to hell and back to get you”?!
We know these people will fabricate evidence, and that alone tells us they will do anything “to get Trump”. Is it, “Trust us, we are the government.”?
Trump’s lawyers should introduce the Durham report to impinge the veracity of government witnesses!
On a side note: If these custody questions can’t be answered, it tells me our secure document control is pretty lax. Think of the Pence/Biden docs. Then think Salwell.
It is a guarantee that the “magnitude” of detail in this indictment (you know, one count for each piece of paper that they deem national security) would be greatly overblown if they were to charge Biden, Obama, Bush, Clinton and Pence for the same type of thing (and naturally, there would be at most ONE count for them even though they likely have WAAAAAAY more docs than Trump had).
The whole thing boils down to the documents that President Trump had declassified (and they knew it) proving that the corruption of the Obama admininstration in collusion with the Clinton campaign sent sheer terror into their psyches (or psychos).
We still don’t know and likely will never know exactly what was in the backpacks worn by the FBI Stasi that raided Mar-a-Lago. Had they been honest and forthcoming with the “search” then the people might have had some confidence in the results. When you clear EVERYONE from the area so that NO ONE can even view from, say the distance that observers in the 2020 election had acess, then there might have been a slight level of FBI confidence. Instead, our suspicions of a lawless FBI and DoJ (whether Comey or Wray, Barr or Garland–no difference in those 4) have been repeatedly confirmed.
The Senate has too many McConnells, Romneys, Barassos, Thunes, Cornyns, Tillises and Ernsts who are much more concerned with what their bottom line looks like than what the right thing is. This crowd and those in the Senate who support them are as useful as teats on a bull (hopefully Ernst knows what that means)!
I read as much of the transcript as I could bear. Drivel. All of it. Such a waste of time for all those concerned. No wonder no one watches these shows anymore.
The sad thing is Catharine Herridge used to do real reporting. How low she has fallen. I hope her payday is worth the loss of her self respect.
How can anyone take Herridge seriously after her “cache of weapons” story?
https://truthpress.com/news/viewers-notice-something-strange-about-cache-of-weapons-found-in-national-guard-leakers-room/
More importantly, the loss of her soul.
I watched a Kyle Seraphine podcast with Steve Friend (2 FBI whistleblowers) from June 9th yesterday. Steve Friend makes a statement that I had told my coworkers that this whole situation looks to be a set up from the Natl Archives from Nov. 2021. This was their – just in case Trump didn’t go away.
You missed your own point, Sundance. If the documents didn’t belong to Trump, did the NARA not break the law by transmitting the documents to Trump? Who violated the law and then blamed Trump for having the documents? The NARA should have cataloged everything that went into a box when packing things up for Trump. Who broke the law? The person receiving the documents? Or the agency responsible for cataloging, packaging, and moving the documents out of the White House? Trump only took what the NARA gave him. . . .
Correct. And NARA has never done what you outline in any Presidential transition. It can’t claim it’s their duty now without declaring their own incompetence and their own mishandling of documents.
NARA knew Trump would run again and they knew what they packed up and sent to him.
Apparently, they did not pack it up at all. Jim Jordan asked why and they and their lawyer has no answer.
a picture is worth 1000
wordsyearsWhy did NARA provide every President since George H W Bush an outside storage facility to store all the Presidential documents, except for President Trump? No conspiracies, but no coincidences. It was a set up by NARA, the Biden Regime and the Deep State to use alleged mishandling of classified documents as an excuse to indict Trump should he decide to run for office again.
In our descent, our degradation to fascism, the State rules, the elected officials do not.
Biden will shortly be discarded, and his dismissal will be swift and facile.
The written law of the land, including the Constitution, cannot withstand the will and the convenience of the State.
At present, in the transition to true fascism, the lawyers are the vehicles of convenience, but the Lawfare dopes lack the vision to see their looming downfall.
Of course lawyers and the air they breathe, laws, will prove a superfluous nuisance in the totalitarian State being swiftly constructed. How do the leftist lawyers not hear the obvious truth screaming at them?
One example already of a “superfluous nuisance”: women and girls. The used to be courted and now are being erased, having to share showers with boys and men, and being told “We don’t care if you have no more female-only spaces– we used you when we needed to — now it’s bye-bye!”
Exactly. just like what LBJ started and every Democrat since continued. Obama was such a loser when millions thought he would make things better for Blacks especially if he would have encouraged Blacks to stop the unwed babies. But of course, he couldn’t since he embraces the Marxist movement which is to destroy the nuclear family. He made things worse for this group also.
You can see how the media lie and coverup the truth in an effort to prop up the lying, criminal government.
i read that the supposed classified were copies
which means the government has the originals
This is like charging Trump with stealing his own car, then lowering the speed limit from 55mph to 35mph two years later so they can charge him with speeding.
Ex post facto protections are a bedrock Constitutional principle.
In Beazell v. Ohio, 269 U.S. 167 (1925), the Supreme Court defined the scope of the constitutional ex post facto through the following restrictions:
“It is settled, by decisions of this Court so well known that their citation may be dispensed with, that any statute which punishes as a crime an act previously committed, which was innocent when done, which makes more burdensome the punishment for a crime, after its commission, or which deprives one charged with crime of any defense available according to law at the time when the act was committed, is prohibited as ex post facto.”
Pulled from the Cornell Law website.
Just heard an astonishing clip by that liar Barr saying PDT’s case is different because the OTHERS didn’t just take papers and put them “anyplace with no protection”—they took care to put them in a “well-secured place until the archives asked for them.”
Words may be paraphrase, but that’s exactly the meaning–my jaw just dropped.
Where is Obama hiding HIS millions of pages. Are they being guarded by the Secret Service 24 hours a day. Are the commies visiting the site they are being kept to review them. Are they locked up with multiple locks. Are they in a warehouse with multiple entrances or other tenants?????????
Liars gonna lie. If he had any integrity at all, James Coney would be in prison.
I know everything about Barr that I’ll never need to know.
tHe also said THESE documents were military secrets-—-to which I say —-what function does the President hav e with the military?? Oh yes—-he is the Commander in -chief. THE BIG BOSS !He had several months after he left the WH to declass. everything !
“well-secured place until the archives asked for them.” … like Clinton’s sock drawer.
Barr is truly a useful idiot – with emphasis on idiot.
I have a theory: Trump is used as a methaphoric lightning rod to attract most of the discussion and effort of the MAGA base.
As long as we’re busy blabbing about injustices done to Donald Trump, we do not expend that energy on building the base.
As long as this mostly focuses on Trump, the “establishment” can keep building and safeguarding THEIR base.
And if the 2024 fraud operation is not already in full swing, I would be surprised.
This next line will probably pain some, but I am thinking:Trump will never be president again.
He will either be blackmailed, in jail (best case for them 3 times over) or – if he magically survives that – taken out some other way.
As Trump said he started a movement and I think the biggest gain is building out the MOVEMENT (like Solidarity movement: look it up)
The culture war is not won by one man in one place (Trump) but that is what they want to have the discussion on.
And NO — Ron DeSantis will not help the cause either.. Will need someone else.
Maybe Andrew Tate should run just for giggles. If he can.. The media would hate him more than Trump.
You don’t get it. There is no one else willing to take on the Maga task.
Then we are hooped aren’t we?
If the one hope is on one man, then yes – they will do everything to eliminate that man.
On his radio show this am, Dan Bongino, an ex Secret Service agent, disclosed that President Trump has been denied his request for more security at the courthouse tomorrow by the Biden SS dept. As a security expert, Bongino voiced his outrage about that, given that he believes Trump faces a significantly elevated level of threat at the courthouse tomorrow. Especially given the historic level of vitriol that has been the non-stop drumbeat from the Leftist propaganda media & now FOX News, which has joined the TDS rhetoric. Bongino said our former President is in danger, no question about it. Bongino seemed to think the additional request for security was denied for political reasons, “So Trump does not look Presidential”
I have a different view on this. Having living through 1963 & 1968,this feels like a replay of those times. It feels like the Biden Regime is poised and setting Trump up for a hit job. Some may recall or have read that JFK’s motorcade that fatal day in Dallas, was re-routed at the last minute which made the POTUS more vulnerable to sniper fire. No American back then could even imagine that our own government could have been involved in our POTUS’s murder, but many now believe this motorcade route change had diabolical intent & the CIA was involved in this decision. Out times have changed, and the potential murder of a POTUS candidate by a rogue CIA is not so far fetched.
Re 1968, ICYMI RFKJr. recently appeared on a video interview with Mike Tyson and shared shocking facts surrounding his father’s murder during his campaign for POTUS in 1968. Per RFKJr., RFK’s assassin was a CIA asset, hired onto security detail 5 DAYS BEFORE THE MURDER. Per RFKJr, the forensics indicate his father was killed by bullets fired from directly behind him, point blank by this SS agent while everyone was distracted by Sirhan, S shooting from the front, and whose bullets, all accounted for, did not match the bullets in RFK’s body. A massive cover-up followed, just like with JFK’s murder.
If the CIA could kill the predominant POTUS candidate in 1968 with no accountability and no exposure, what makes anyone think they won’t try this again?
I am not disparaging the dedicated heroic secret service agents protecting Trump right now, (God Bless them all) but this denial by the Biden Regime for additional protection to match the elevated level of threat Trump faces as he surrenders himself to the Federal Court in Miami feels like a set-up. Like what happened on J6, when Trump’s requests for additional security were denied by Nancy Pelosi. Or could this be worse? What is being planned? Bongino urged all of us to call our “Representatives” in Congress to let them know Trump deserves adequate protection and to reverse the Biden team’s decision. I’m not so sure that’s the answer. To learn from the past, WHAT WE DON’T NEED are hastily deployed federal security detail that no one is familiar with. I would rather Trump hire his own PRIVATE security detail that has been thoroughly vetted. I’m thinking former Israeli Intelligence agents for example, who are at the top of their game. I sure hope the Trump team is on top of this, but given the history of traitors surrounding Trump and the DISASTROUS advice he’s gotten (to hire Wray, Sessions, & Barr for example ) I’m not so sure. I also hope there are still some Patriots left in the CIA somewhere who might have a watchful eye on their rogue, criminal counterparts, and who would take action to protect our former President.
Please pray that God will protect President Trump. He is truly in grave danger right now. Please pray Psalm 35 on his behalf and for God’ Justice. Please also pray for the residing judge and her family, who are undoubtely facing threats against her and her family’s safety if she does not do the bidding of the Biden FBI/DOJ Police State. It seems that is how the DOJ operates now. May God help us all. God Bless America
There is Vivek Ramaswamy. Dark horse. Watch for him to come from behind.
My analogy of Trump holding the reins of a speeding bandwagon with the back packed with supporters shouting “faster faster, don’t stop” will utterly crash and burn unless someone is ready to take the reins if something happens to Trump.
We need to vet all the candidates and find the one who can best support Trump and step in if needed. There is the possibility Trump will turn to someone and say “here, take the reins” while he jumps off to pummel someone that desperately needs a beat down. The wagon needs to continue faster and faster without stopping. Trump can take care of himself while the rest of us keep on keeping on.
THEN MAKE THEM BEAT HIM. NUTS. FULL SPEED AHEAD. STFU AND GET OUT OF THE WAY LEST WE STEAMROLL YOU.
Presidential power is plenary in regards to classification. Period.
You simply cannot prosecute the president for anything related to what they are attempting. Before that, none of these were on his person, so a chain of custody would fail to meet the burden of prosecution even if he were an underling employee.
This is supreme dishonesty on the part of every person who supports and engages in this bastardization of law.
BUT,,, It is TRUMP>
You can if the rule of law is superseded by the rule of men with power. After all. all of our Constitution and laws are just paper backed by a consensus to act ethically
This answers a question I had in the back of my mind, which was “Why would President Trump even want all that crap?’
He’s not the hoarder type.
It also reminds me of a comment made a while back by someone else who has been reporting on this issue. I think it was Hand Mahncke (not sure) who said that President Trump appeared not to even know much of what records he had.
With the boxes being dumped on him like that, it would make sense that he was unaware just what was in them.
Their laughably ridiculous charges make even less sense once you realize that “Trump” didn’t take anything. The GSA boxed and shipped it. Nobody from GSA has been charged with espionage.
Under the OLD rules of the Government Party, getting indicted meant resigning and exiting politics. Trump is playing by the new rules which is that the old rules are dead. You’d think they’d have learned this in 2016 when the typical eGOP tactics like sex, tax returns, and racism had no effect on Trump.
In fact, had Jeff Sessions any balls, there wouldn’t even have been a Russia hoax. But he was playing by the old rules.
A picture is worth a thousand words. Some people see boxes containing classified material or material with classified markings. I see abandoned property open to anyone and everyone according to the general business law. In other words a pile of s##t.
Catherine Herridge is past her prime.
So the documents that the NARA left in a parking lot for Trump to take were the documents over which they were suing to obtain? Sounds something like entrapment to me. Ultimately the POTUS has authority to declassify documents, so national security is really the only thing they have. But it is still entrapment.
“It is also valuable to see CBS’s Catherine Herridge represent the defenders of the institutions, from the outside vulgarian personage of Trump.”
Once evicting the vulgarian, had the institutions only visibly ‘picked up the country’s game’, they would be on much firmer footing with Nixon’s silent majority in the middle.
But as things have gone to hell in a handbasket post-Trump, their actions look increasingly mean-spirited and nakedly self-preservational.
The Unaffiliated Middle is going to favor Trump out of a sense of fair play if nothing else.
I was wondering. According to many, many experts, the government’s indictment has made an ironclad, air tight case against Pres. Trump.
According to these experts, the indictment proves beyond any doubt that Pres. Trump is guilty of many, many crimes and so that we could dispense with a trial, authentication of documents, cross examination of witnesses, and other rules of evidence, or, indeed, any opportunity to present a defense. What would be the point? The government’s indictment is conclusive. What defense could there be?
It would save the country if the Court would proceed straight to sentencing. Pres. Trump must be guilty as charged. We cannot conclude anything else without impugning the honesty, competence and personal disinterestedness of government officials. Who would accuse a government prosecutor of any wrongdoing other than White Supremacists and Domestic Terrorists and Fascists. Government prosecutors must be trusted or democracy itself is endangered.
For those of you in Rio Linda, I am being facetious. The pompous, preening pundits have taken the government’s indictment as proof of guilt. Including many defense lawyers who should know better.
MAGA
I am surprised that so little is being made of the fact that the Department of Defense had developed plans to attack Iran militarily. Is this not a major disclosure? If not, then why were the plans classified “” Top Secret ” I think.
I would think that US military have many, many such plans and it is not surprising and, therefore, not a threat to US security
Could anyone explain why this is NOT a major disclosure? Or explain if it is NOT top secret, why was it legitimately classified as such?
Thanks team CTH. The gaslighting is sometimes overwhelming and it is good to see some clear factual analysis.
Ah, the conundrum of believing the lawfare narrative or should I say being bombarded with it…. I’ll add to Sundance’s symposium on this; this is what gives President Trump the power to collect whatever executive branch document, article, photo, news release, trinket, etc. he wants to; Article II Section II of our Constitution- “he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices”
Too bad Barr and et al haven’t really comprehended this.
To see who owns the documents
Watch from 4:51
I cannot find any other source saying that NARA dumped the documents in the White House parking lot. Not that I don’t trust Sundance but since this article is the only one I have read that makes this claim I looked for backup and found nothing.
WHO KNEW? Good call Sundance.
FTN is yet another reason I do not watch the mainstream news. If I want to watch a bunch of parrots, I’ll go to the zoo (they’re more pleasant to look at and tend to make a lot more sense).
BTW: Just saw a post where Holder was quoted as saying that should DJT be re-elected, that he should be impeached a third time (this is a former AG of the United States speaking before any crime has been charged). This gives you an idea of just how corrupt and full of malice Obama’s people are).
My suggestion is that the House of Representatives should revisit those contempt charges against Holder where an actual crime was committed.
I was just thinking how funny it would be to gaslight the living hell out of the feds by all us saying that if Trump is imprisoned, that we’re all going to converge on the jail to spring him out.
“If the documents belonged to the government, and not to the man for whom they were created, then why did that same government give them to him and force him to take them to a location of his choosing?”
So, Bill Barr is not only a traitor, but stupid to boot.
The imprisonment of Trump and/or a second stolen election will lead to a serious secession movement and possibly a kinetic civil war.
It had to be this way.
Stunning pics. First time I’ve seen them and they don’t show up in TinEye.
This argument alone should cause the case to be thrown out.
Love your work. Sundance.
Seems that the boxes photo was taken on January 14th. So, it’s somewhat misleading.