As the political elite decide they have some form of unknown authority to force working class U.S. taxpayers to fund the choices of others, a furor starts to build.
In this video excerpt a father confronts Senator Elizabeth Warren over her advocacy to cancel college loan debt for those who made a choice to take out those loans. Across the American landscape this moment rings as representative of two fundamental outlooks colliding. I think most readers here would relate to the cold anger of the father who confronts the Senator. WATCH:
Cold anger does not choose the path of division, it simply responds to it.
There is a great chasm within our nation between to diametrically opposing worldviews. When one side is forced to pay for the indulgent choices of the other, cold anger turns hot. It is difficult to contain rage in the face of such sanctimony, yet the abusers are prepared to claim victimhood as soon as we respond to the abuse.
This is the powder-keg that sits underneath the quiet surface of cold anger.
Cold Anger tries not to go to violence. For those who carry it, no conversation is needed when we meet. You cannot poll or measure it; specifically, because most who carry it avoid discussion… And that decision has nothing whatsoever to do with any form of correctness.
Foolishness and betrayal of our nation have served to reveal dangers within our present condition.
Misplaced corrective action, regardless of intent, is neither safe nor wise….
All thoughts appreciated.
When I was expecting my third baby, living in a two-room apartment with a kitchenette, there were two “wise” people in my circle who advised me to get an abortion, because “how can you afford to send them all to college?”
I calculated that my dirt-poor grandmother around 1900 had gone to college (it was much less expensive then) on a very low teaching income, and then saved to help send her younger sibling to college also (she was the eldest of 8 children of a pastor who couldn’t keep his kids fed. Her family finally took over keeping the brood warm and fed).
Several thoughts. College has become like legendary extravagant weddings in India: little girls get aborted because of fear of the wedding expense. I would rather have the baby and no wedding and no college.
Second: a lot of colleges have massive scholarship
Endowments. All of my children went to school on scholarships that they had well-qualified for.
Mars Hill in North Carolina tried to recruit my eldest. They had some millions in scholarship funds donated by a prosperous Baptist couple who have probably left this earthly realm by now. She went to a different college (on complete scholarship) but I did love a lot about Mars Hill, and always want to put in a word for them.
Other schools that provide work study programs so students don’t rack up debt: Alice Lloyd College in rural Kentucky; Berea College, excessively leftist but wonderful in other ways; College of the Ozarks
https://www.cofo.edu/
To the extent that these schools may be requiring mRNA jabs (like the nursing school my niece is attending) you might want to encourage your kids to do something else until the idiocy fades. Work on a farm or learn a trade without jabs.
I gave my son the option years ago – I’ll buy a Subway franchise for you – or provide the same amount for college. He chose college, took out 65k of student loans – graduated in 2011 and finally paid off his loans – early. This year. He’s doing very well but most of that is not because of his college education. It was the education he learned working on my farm that is getting him through life successfully. Success is not measured solely by $. He often lamented over the past 11 years that he wished he’d opted for the Subway franchise.
I got my jobs because of my military experience (very technical field in the Navy- very very technical- you need to score very high on ASVAB and pass another test full of some calc, trig, and other heavy math and science). The college degrees I earned BS and MBA only opened the door to apply. Everything in the interviews and follow up said- your military experience is what we wanted.
I share to further back your story.
Thank you for your service to our country and the personal sacrifices you made on deployments away from your loved ones.
Thank you, I will pass that thank you on to those I know who gave all in my prayers; they deserve it not me. But I still appreciate the sentiment.
You are a very honorable man. I come from 3 generations of Navy service.
Thank you for your service!
Thank you for your service to our Country. Congratulations on passing tests that are very difficult.
<He often lamented over the past 11 years that he wished he’d opted for the Subway franchise.>
Either way you’re his hero 🙂
It was a good idea, though, and might help somebody else. Respect to both of you
A lot matters on what degree they obtain from college.
The tuition for Mechanical Engineering is the same as one for Women Studies but the pay is a lot different and the training of the mind is a whole world of difference.
You can not BS your way through chemistry, calculus, and physics like you can what a student takes for a degree in Woman Studies.
Search for Dr Malone’s list of NO JAB colleges. I regret to say I don’t have a link but he has compiled one.
Searched and found…
https://nocollegemandates.com/
Love it!
God bless Dr Malone for providing this info.
Hi Bet, I hope you saw the American Woodcock pic I put up. Regards
We were told much the same when we had our five.
Back then most married couples our age had only two several years apart and only after they had graduated from college and bought their first house.
We had our first two before we got out of college ourselves and had four before we bought our first home.
All five of ours went to college with very little debt, all five are now married with their own children and all own not only their own homes but three of them own rental of either residential or farms.
A lot of our friends kids are spoiled , divorced and in huge debt and have never been able to cut their parents apron strings.
“The Amish” are a source of humor for their non-fancy lifestyle, but as our country collapses around us, they have much to teach us about survival under difficult conditions. I am too old to be particularly useful on a farm. However if you have Amish neighbors, we all might want to devote some time to learning their ways. Might come in handy
I’m not going to say all but a good majority that have Amish neighbors do not care for them.
Amish are not as grand as all think…
Just saying. They live the way they do for their reasons. You are not godly to them..
They will take the last apple off your tree last fish out of your pond last deer out of your woods. Etc etc
Not saying all of them.Just saying.
During a three-week power outage due to a massive ice storm, the Amish in general were noted for taking good care of their neighbors. There are exceptional people in every direction, and I heed what you say, don’t trust based on stereotypes, pay attention to reality instead
They also run puppy mills, despicable enterprise in my view — cruelly exploitive.
Our Amish neighbors are very nice people.
Many might be surprised how they live though.
Ours have hot and cold running water, full bathrooms with tubs, flush toilets and sinks.
They have propane fueled hot water heaters, kitchen stoves and even propane kitchen fridges.
We have a lot of Amish businesses that sell almost completely to “the English” so they all have cell phones and web pages for their services.
They use “English” drivers to take them almost everywhere and rarely use their buggies and wagons except for Sunday.
The ones that do farm use center pivot electric powered huge sprinklers and hire “English” to come in and use their tractors and harvest equipment.
The Amish farmers do not farm with the great big horses, the fields around here are just too big.
The women use diesel powered electric washing machines that they power up one day a week for their wash, but they do hang the wash out for some reason and do not use gas or electric dryers.
Most of the Amish families have big gardens but few have a milk cow or raise their own meat as in having a family pig or sheep or beef cow that they butcher for their own use.
They do not have the family survival type of life here with the milk cow, chickens, pig and garden with the wife canning etc.
Do not know why.
Their houses are built with propane gas lights, as in the type of lights that was used in the early 1900s.
They have the usual plumbing installed have regular indoor kitchen and bath fixtures.
Through our business we see a lot of the Amish homes, the ones here do not live like the Amish in the moves ala “Witness” or “For Richer or For Poorer”.
I suppose each community of Amish are different and each have their own ways.
A lot of people do not believe me when I tell them how the Amish here live.
So true.
My sister was commenting recently when she went on buying trip with a friend who owns furniture store…
So many of the Amish were not driving horse drawn buggy—
But bicycles!
The Amish are wise. We can learn more than farming from them! A year an a half ago I joined a homesteader group on a Christian social media site. Learning I’m not good with plants, but through a series of odd circumstances I now have 11 ducks. They are so cool
What fantastic advice! “Oh you can’t send that human to college…kill it”.
We live among some really, really sick people.
I would rather have the baby than all the sparkling junk of this world.
Your third “baby” has a marvelous mom.
She (and her sisters) blessed me beyond anything I could have imagined
God never gave hubby and me kids.
I know He blessed you beyond measure, and I truly am very glad for you!
I have a theory about big weddings. The bigger the wedding, the shorter the marriage.
We are on very dangerous ground right now.
It is akin to a large warehouse with a gas leak inside. The leak has been allowed to build up and build up. It is now at a very dangerous level of gas inside. The prudent thing to do, it involves some personal danger, is to gently open the doors and vent the gas. In the mean time, it only takes a small incident for the whole thing to explode, either accidently or on purpose. A errant spark is all it takes.
Great metaphor!
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The guy confronting Liz is ostensibly a Democrat voter, perhaps from the blue-collar, maybe Union job, contingent.
I would tend to think it would be him — and those like him — who will balk at this freebie and errantly spark a mass exodus from their proclivity to vote for Bribem’s party . . .
A LOT of us Union members are conservative and vote the same. You actually think construction workers like me watching “leadership” tell us to vote blue at the same time they give our jobs to illegal alien invaders are voting for demonrats?
Yes, there are a lot of people that can see a sermon, as opposed to hear a sermon.
Eyes are being opened more, and the illusion of the two party system is disintegrating.
How it all ends will be interesting.
I despise Unions, no pun intended. Any real business owner wants nothing to do with them.
As I have been both you must despise me too.
Oh DJT also as he is well known for working comfortably with Unions to get his projects done.
‘Real Indian’ running against Sen. Elizabeth Warren sues after city tells him to stop calling her ‘Fake Indian’
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/real-indian-running-against-sen-elizabeth-warren-sues-after-city-tells-him-to-stop-calling-her-fake-indian
He could go with ‘Shiva…the Destroyer’ as a campaign slogan.
Good one. I was thinking/hoping PDJT and MAGA is Shiva. Namaste.
he should have formed another organization to receive donations in his name and listed it at bottom of that sign:
[email protected]
but I love, love, love his ‘real indian / fake indian’ riff
rofl
oops, my punchline got interpreted as ‘protected email’ on my other browser where I keep javascript turned off
in generic terms – ‘shiva-at-dot-not-feather.org‘
Funny Nim. LOL
Excellent!
I’d vote for him just based on that if I lived there. That would be a really awesome campaign.
“I am Shiva, Destroyer of Fake Indians”
Crazy clown world where a real Indian cannot call a fake Indian a fake Indian.
Indians don’t matter if a leftist is in the way.
Gays don’t matter if a leftist is in the way.
Women don’t matter if a leftist is in the way.
Nothing matters to leftists but leftists.
In 2016, Shiva ran as a stunt candidate against Warren and Trump-endorsed Geoff Diehl, Trump’s state campaign manager. Shiva won less than 3.5% of the vote, undermined legitimate criticism of Warren through his circus act, and exposed his long track record as a self-promoter and opportunist with a checkered past.
He has made some valid points about the 2020 election, but whenever I see him pop up I feel obligated to urge others to examine his past before supporting or promoting him.
Only in today’s America can a guy run AS AN INDIAN for American office….and get any votes.
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It is way WAY past time for the Supreme Court to delineate the parameters of Congressional spending. Under what strained theories does Congress just give away money to foreign nations or individuals. If “general welfare” ostensibly covers this, then it’s time for a constitutional amendment that comports with James Madison’s restrictive view, not Hamilton’s free-for-all.
For an article discussing Congress’s spending authority, see:
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R46827
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If it makes anyone feel better the interest rates on student loans have quadrupled. I remember my mom took out several loans in the 80’s and I remember the interest rates were around 2 percent and a credited class was around 75 dollars. So a person who went to school 10 years ago with an interest rate of 7 percent and credited class cost of 500 dollars pays the same amount if not more than some of you who feel cheated. I have paid 21,000 into my loan and that was how much the actual loan amount was. However the interest makes it around 40,000 plus. This is a relief for your fellow Americans who are struggling under predatory loans because they were trying to get ahead in life. There was less outrage on this site for money going to Ukraine.
Predatory loans? Did you not read the agreement and disclosure that you signed before taking the loan? I’m sorry Gingergal, but I have no sympathy for you or anyone else who took on the legal obligation regardless of age. If you did so and still think you are owed relief, then college was probably a waste of your time and effort for you received little intellectual gain from it.
I too took out loans. I too paid more in interest than the initial outlay. I took out a home loan with similar consequences. I took them knowing that I was obligated to fulfill my contract. Of course, there is a way to reduce your interest expense. You can always accelerate your payoff by paying more against the principal. But, that would require making sacrifices of convenience like shopping for wants rather than needs, not staying in expensive hotels or taking expensive vacations or other unnecessary expenses.
You do know at on point maybe was 2010 or 12 Govermwnt upped the rates..
2006 sorry been a long time.🤣🤷🏼♂️
besides YOUR making a choice and promising to HONOR your debt when you took it out there is a SLIGHT difference in costs to the two programs….there has been anger here for unauthorized and continuing funding of a losing war we have no national interest in however that bill is now up to approximately $63B price tag…….the FIRST installment for this one that was just announced is over $900B….since you are college educated do you see a difference here?……both are WRONG but we are talking orders of magnitude here…..FIFTEEN to be exact…..and this is only the first step…with at least another $800B in unpaid “student loan debt” on the federal ledger is there another forgiveness in the future for these students who racked up over $200k sometimes for worthless degrees?
May I ask what college you attended and what degree you achieved? I am struggling with your use of the phrase “predatory” loan. What year did you take out the loan and what interest did you agree to pay? I cannot determine if your cry of abuse is legitimate or not. But, it seems like you made a personal choice and, since you have been faithful to repay, you should be outraged that others are being given a pass at the expense of the public. Should the IRS forgive legitimately owed taxes? What about the excessive costs charged by colleges? Should they be required to refund some of what they received? Why not? You and they benefitted.
I got a student loan in the early 80’s and the rate was 7.5%. Cost of a class was around $120. Gasoline was $1.58 a gallon and my car got 6 miles a gallon. I was making $14,000 a year of which I got to keep a little over $700 with a house payment of $400. I had to get a second job to drive to classes, pay what I could, plus later pay back the loan.
Things were different in the 1980’s, but loans were no easier to pay back than they are today. I have no sympathy. I paid off my loans. I have a great sense of accomplishment for getting that college degree.
I worked full-time and attended college classes part-time at night, paying my tuition as I went. It took me five years to earn my degree.
My peers who attended full-time classes and lived at home with their parents (I had to get my own apartment) were given grant money towards their school expenses, since they had no earned income. They were rolling in the dough while I scraped by.
Living on your own terms and taking care of your own expenses and debts builds character. Communists hate people like me because we don’t need them.
Gubmint has no right doling out tax dollars willy nilly to erase personal debt. Who wants to help me pay off my mortgage? My house is expensive. /Sarc
A bit older but saw the same thing with my 2 sons. Both had scholarships (athletic & academic) but both had small student loans. They both went on to great professional careers. One a police sargent & one an upper level healthcare administrator. Both paid off their student loans. Nothing about this waste of tax payer money is anything but vote buying
Yes there were students who took out loans at a very low . 02 percent or something close to that then when govermwnt got involved they upped student loans to 3. Something .
Yes .02 to 3.0. Them students should have been grandfathered at that rate .. Then the next year make the government rate mandatory..
Well that didn’t happen. I don’t think them kids feel helped at all.🤷🏼♂️
I may be somewhat off on timeline maybe 2005.. I just Remember there being a large increase on student loans by gov
Government took over granting loans in 2010.
Sorry, predatory loans is an excuse for those to ignorant to read the fine print. Just read. It’s all in the contract you sign.
Obviosly your student loan went to waste if you still can’t figure out how loans work. Good luck purchasing a home!
The Ukrainian loans are not optional for Americans, they are forced on us by people many on this site did not vote for.
Every student graduate who could not afford the “college of their choice”, personally chose to attend a college.
Not any old college; they weren’t assigned to a college.
For whatever altruistic reason or lack of imagination to create a business, hire on to learn a trade, take a job on the bottom waiting for opportunity; they weren’t forced.
To all those who paid their student loans, their ethics have been brutalized. Their taxes will be increased to pay off other students poor decisions and will also likely suffer a double backhand when the debt free students, 18 and up, vote for those who gave them a free ride and not for the candidate choice of the very graduates who are paying for their free ride.
Do you see the disdain for an ethical solution? And the tens of thousands of dollars of rewards – each year of study – for those who take but don’t pay back? They will find it impossible to pay off car loans, new business loans, mortgages.
Do you see this is training for – You Will own Nothing And Be Happy.
I understand your frustration to a certain point.
I also know that not everyone has the same opportunities.
I am fortunate that I have a rich uncle, his name is Sam.
He agreed to pay for my college after so many years of service.
12 years of night school, raising family I finally earned my engineering degree.
In this age of entitlement should not folks like me be entitled to those years of service back?
He’ll with it the military taught me more then any University.
I have seen that same “line” from quite a few people on Gab.
We are giving money to Ukraine-it should be OK to give money to pay student loans.
Like that statement will justify it all.
No it doesn’t.
Neither is right. Period.
Two wrongs do not make a right.
And today on the open thread even before the announcement- few of us were expressing outrage over Biden newest deposit to his money laundering in Ukraine.
Biden’s student loan plan will cost about $2000 per taxpayer. CNBC said today. Much bigger cost, how will our already low Armed Forces recruitment suffer. A huge motivation for new Soldiers etc. is the opportunity to complete their education. How is it a benefit for Soldiers IF everyone gets their student loans forgiven.
CNBC is not taking into account the further increase to inflation this will cause. Not to mention the further increase to inflation caused by the Inflation
ReductionIncreasing Act.Inflation is taxation.
The cabal is throwing all the shiff it can at the western world structure to destroy it and replace it with their socialist utopia. Their time line has been greatly advanced and they need to have as much as possible in place by November due to the election blow out that they maybe able to influence with the media or steal at the ballot box.
plan acccordingly.
ibid. page 222-337 Chronicles of Sundance.
What they are doing amounts to Treason…. the way they are abusing people on both sides of the voting spectrum is beyond the wildest imagining. They are abusing our monetary norms… and printing the currency like it is candy growing on trees.
I posted, and ranted at the thread of Biden’s ,”Great Youngin Student Relief Giveaway”.
But you all have to understand, that all of my 7 siblings and I were SHOCKED, to find out that our BELOVED MA based Democratic Party dropped us like, red headed Irish trash, for the newly protected.
We got NOTHING from 2008-2016. Not Federally or State wise, for the gigantic, COLOSSAL $$ INCREASE of College ED, in MA and UNBEKNOWN to us, these !ssholes, just kept increasing it, 50X, 50 %. And squeezed us all out.
The f-ing Middle Class.
We GOT SCOTT BROWN IN AND THEY ATE HIM ALIVE. AND US.
BOOM.
And Tucker spells it out!!!!
Elizabeth Warren, Progressive Fraud
https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/11/elizabeth-warren-native-american-heritage-harvard-fraud/
When you figure out Pocahontas is working for the big Bankers all the while being their supposed “Biggest Critic/ Arch Enemy” lol…. she’s a fraud.
My thoughts are that tptb DGAF about what we think of their abuses and usurpations of power as they are NEVER held to account for them.
The same goes for their continuous acts of criminality and perversions of the Constitution.
They are ROTFLTA’s off at us while We The People gnash our teeth and howl at the moon, seemingly powerless to effect any changes in ‘the system’.
Oppressive ukase after ukase are issued with virtually no means of effective push-back.
Not sure what the solution is exactly, but until we have a secure and true voting system nothing will change for the better.
We do not even have any America First Representatives or Senators to fight for fairness, our rights, and to hold the renegades responsible.
He’s right – she was laughing at him.
I think they believe there’s nothing we can do, and they can do whatever they please.
Reminds me of Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates; making all kinds of senseless and stupid “edicts” they expect us to live by, and they believe they have us under their control. They believe we have no choice and will be forced to do what they demand.
Same with the Democrats. They are spending like there’s no repercussion, and there’s nothing we can do to stop them.
Oh, yes, there is something we can do. If they want to rid the world of the useless eaters, “reduce the surplus population” as Scrooge opined, we should go along. By all means, let’s start with the top 1%.
All we, the hoi poli, have to do is…nothing. Just stop. Walk away. hide, even. Quit serving their needs (let alone their wants and desires). Go all Ayn Rand on them. They are so inept and helpless that they couldn’t find their own butts with both hands and a flashlight. They’ll be eating each other inside of a month.
Why don’t we just call the, what they are, megalomaniacs.
The are full blown Communists…. and they are going to wreck both our country and the currency if they are not stopped.
They’re doing worse than that, Joyce. Gavin Newsom came out today and said he is starting to limit the number of new gas-operated vehicles being sold in CA beginning tomorrow. The number of new gas-fueled cars is to be decreased every year, with the plan to be “zero carbon emission” cars by 2030. What’s even worse is that several other States are aligned with that, including MA and ME.
Aren’t these Universities sitting on billions$$$$ ? Let them bail out the loans. Theives, criminals, all of them.
won’t happen
they’re part of the club
you’re not
IVYs have collectively over $200B among the seven of them…..some of the bigger private Us like Duke, USC, Stanford, etc. also have huge endowments they do not spend but invest and collect dividends on every year
The level of “cold anger” where I live in the outer suburbs of NY is beyond anything I’ve seen in the past.
We just had some primary elections yesterday and it looks like we got screwed by the NY GOP. Long story short, the scumbags who run the party are not supporting MAGA candidates.
it seems they would rather see the DemonRats get elected than conservative Republican patriots.
I can’t believe they are that stupid not to realize that the pressure cooker is going to explode.
These filthy politicians cannot keep getting away with spitting in our faces and giving us the finger. They had better hope that we have fair and peaceful elections this November because from what I’m seeing, there’s going to be a whole lot of trouble if We the People are cheated again.
Losing pays better and it’s less work.
mcconnell MO.
I think they are daring us to start trouble.
“… it looks like we got screwed by the NY GOP.” You didn’t give any specifics (or names), Seneca, but I do understand the GOP in general does not support MAGA. The GOP is better known as “GOPe” and are in step with the Dems, hence the term “uniparty.”
“The state — or, to make matters more concrete, the government — consists of a gang of men exactly like you and me. They have, taking one with another, no special talent for the business of government; they have only a talent for getting and holding office. Their principal device to that end is to search out groups who pant and pine for something they can’t get, and to promise to give it to them. Nine times out of ten that promise is worth nothing. The tenth time it is made good by looting ‘A’ to satisfy ‘B’. In other words, government is a broker in pillage, and every election is a sort of advanced auction on stolen goods.” – H.L. Mencken (1880 – 1956)
Menken said it well.
I generally didn’t appreciate George Carlin . . . but he did say it succinctly:
“They don’t give a f–k about you. They don’t give a f–k about you. THEY DON’T CARE ABOUT YOU!”
Don’t Stop Now!
Play that everyday!
There’s a town by me that has a sign on their store window says Where’s Gorge Carlin when ya need him.
Parasites (former ‘elites’) could care less. Until and unless they start getting thrown in prison for their lies and deceit. Then, MAYBE, a brain cell or two might activate inside their arrogant, vacuous heads.
These morons are heading straight to the lake of fire for their crimes against humanity.
Well, pretty sure voting is not gonna work, but who knows, maybe the Mahatma Gandhi or MLK example of non-violent protest and resistance will work.
Frankly, I don’t think it will because we are dealing with a totally different type of despot. The British Imperialists–circa 1947–though brutal and racist, still had a Christian sense of compassion and justice. So did the racist Southern rednecks of MLK’s time.
Not so in this generation. Our despots are soul-less, atheist creatures who believe their totalitarian utopia is for the betterment of all–most certainly for them. And they are willing to do ANYTHING in pursuit of that goal–ANYTHING.
Maybe I should change my pseudonym from Maximus-Cassius to Cassandra’s Curse.
And Maximus, our current despots as you point out have the worst kind of drive- they are doing it for OUR BETTERMENT. Thus anything is permitted cuz the ends justify the means, our lives being better according to their plan. That also makes them the most dangerous kind- they believe what they say.
She’s one of the biggest POS frauds out there – period.
After the mid-terms,all bets are off.
Buddy she doesn’t care about you at all. Or anyone else in the room not named Elizabeth.
But you also need to understand…you didn’t “get screwed” here. You did the right thing and hopefully your child will get that and see what it took to get her through college. Your single goal should be impressing upon her the sacrifices you had to make to afford whatever opportunities she had.
It’s super easy to blame a snake for biting you, but it’s a snake. It’s what it does. At the end of the day we have to take care of ourselves and our loved ones. And no matter how unfair any of this stuff is (and of course it’s unfair) if we take care of ourselves and each other, these idiots actually lose power over us.
I feel bad for the guy. Probably could have bought a cool car with that money and would be doing doughnuts all over his driveway in it, but thems the breaks man. You were a good father, and they don’t give away awards for that. In fact you generally don’t ever get a thing for it. But the people you love know what you did and will remember and love you for it.
Paid my student loan off a long time ago. Took a while, but I took care of it. Later on, I went to a trade school; paid for that out of my own pocket. Trade schools, depending on what program you’re enrolling in, are a lot less expensive than college.
What is missing is the days of being able to discuss politics at the coffee counter or with a relative. I grew up with adults discussing many things. I was always attentive to the conversation. Since O came about those discussions went out of the window.
yep
I no longer argue with liberals … you both get muddy and the liberal enjoys it
seriously, tho – I WILL NOT have political discussions with them
because at a fundamental level
despite being my best friends
they are my ENEMY … they support all that is sending our formerly great nation down the toilet
and I don’t really want to tell them that they are my enemy
Nimrod, I think we all have similar situations. But, I no longer keep quiet. I don’t let them know they are my enemy rather; I let them fall on their own sword. Most of them are narcissists. If you stay calm, present facts, and keep steady, they eventually get frustrated. Since they are friends, you move on, but you can see them stewing in their own heads…..they know they are wrong; you prove this. And when you calmly don’t waiver and don’t care what they say….they have no power.
Tom MacDonald nails it with his song “Names:”
Here’s the lyrics for those who don’t want to listen- it’s worth the read- he nails it:
They gon’ try to call you names, label you with things till you’re ashamed
You’re a sexist, or a racist, white supremacist, or gay
They’ll attack your reputation, claim that you’re the one to blame
And try to make you hate yourself for ways that you behave
They’re just names, embrace them and they’ll never cause you pain
They’re just words that another person thought up in they brain
They’re just names, they do not define you, that’s insane
And they’ll just call you something different if you change
Call me racist, I don’t make no BLM donations
I can stand with black folks without a branded corporation
All this systemic prejudice, if you live in this nation
You privileged, black or Caucasian
Call me transphobic but I support you in your policies
I just can’t ignore the very basics of biology
All I see is men and women tryna live in harmony
Not a hundred genders that you wanna be
Call me snowflake ’cause I’m offended, I ain’t stone-faced
Social justice warriors destroying us with woke ways
Mad because they voted for the POTUS with the most hate
Man, I miss the old days
Call me loser, call me bigot, call me stupid, call me bitter
Call me ugly, call me cracker, call me douche, or call me triggered
You can call me what you want ’cause at the end of the day
Man, they’re just names
[chorus] Go ahead and call us names, dog, do your thing
We ain’t tripping ’cause we heard it all before
Give a damn about the names, dog, we feel no pain
Your words ain’t gonna heard us anymore
Go ahead and call us names, dog, do your thing
Y’all are tripping but I hope you find the Lord
Give a damn about the names, dog, we ain’t feel no shame
Call us everything you want, I’m getting bored
They gon’ try to call you names, label you with things till you’re ashamed
Repeat it till you really start believing what they say
They gon’ stamp it on your forehead and scream until you break
They love to say they woke, they not awake
They’re just names, afraid of anyone who ain’t the same
So they classify your thoughts as controversial, not okay
Then they cancel you till everything you have all gets erased
They tryna tell the world you bad, they’re just names
Call me conservative or liberal, Republican or Democrat
I’m somewhere in the middle but y’all don’t know what to do with that
The system got you so obsessed with classifying right or left
You never call a person human, call ’em names instead
Call me sexist, men run the world ’cause they’re aggressive
But behind every man there’s a woman just as successful
We will never be equal in every way that ain’t helpful
Our differences are why we’re great together
Call me white devil, I know you think the system favors me
My privilege is residual, benefits from the slavery
Subconscious prejudice embedded in the system made for me
Don’t mean I never struggle to survive, I guess we ain’t agree
Ignorant and jaded, call me dumb, uneducated
Call me idiot or redneck or delusional or crazy
Call me anything society has taught you to say
‘Cause at the end of the day, they’re just names
[chorus]
Your sticks and your stones might break my bones
But your words don’t hurt (so give me your worst)
Stupid loser, ugly poser
Moron, liar, crazy loner
[chorus]
I really, on a visceral level, hate rap. But I do understand there is an art to it, and I can listen to it if the message is right.
This guy has a really great message, and I actually enjoyed it. I mean, as much as a bluegrass guy can anyways.
I especially love the line “I know y’all are trippin’ but I hope you find the Lord”.
The underlying message in this is something I wish most people understood. It’s just names. You define You. Other people can’t do that.
Way back when I did that meme I guess some of you think of me for, I got absolutely pounded for two years by every numpty that could type. I was called everything in the English language you could be called, and probably things in other languages I don’t know.
And yes, it hurt to see it. It always hurts when people hate you, no matter how just you think you are.
But at the end of the day, if you can talk to God and ask Him “Did I do the right thing?” and you get that little feeling of acceptance from Him, then you carry on and you know, yeah did the right thing and don’t worry about the names.
Tom has a lot of great messages in his rap. Something happened, and he just started writing about what was happening around us. And, his popularity is skyrocketing. This is another great one, with a great message, “The System:”
That…uh, that guy is really black-pilled.
Don’t get me wrong, he spits out a lot of truth in what he is saying, but he looks like he’s basically given up on people.
Yeah I get it, we are living in a time where the most corrupt people possible have taken control of things. But can you imagine telling this guy to go meet his neighbors? I’m a bit sad for the guy to be honest. Human beings are so wonderful…literally the peak of God’s creation, and it’s terrible to me that we think so lowly of each other.
His message is correct. I’m worried about his tone. And frankly, a little worried about him. From his lyrics he’s found God, but I hope it goes a lot deeper than lyrics for him. He seems like a decent enough fellow.
I hate to sound crass but at this point I’m expecting many people I know to drop dead. I tried to warn them about the poison death shots, to no avail. Now I just try to keep them comfortable. I feel like a hospice nurse.
I learned today about three more sudden deaths.. all were in their 50’s. My friend -who is vaxxed- asked “What’s going on?”
I didn’t answer. Why beat a dead horse?
Pearls before swine. The poster above hit the nail on the head with “Doublethink”. You cannot have a logical discussion with people who are that kind of crazy.
So what you’re saying is, we are going to have another war.
Well just great…
Wag The Dog. Clinton did it with the illegal war against the orthodox Christian Serbs to assist the radical Islamists many of the foreign imports coming from Operation Cyclone in Bosnia/Kosovo/Macedonia. Bush & Obozo also. PDJT did not go along with their planned wars, thats partly why he was treasonously couped.
They reserve a special hatred for the Orthodox Christians.
Oh don’t get me started on that one bud.
Still a sore spot with me.
As with me. Slainte
Slaintѐ brother.
Of COURSE they do. Look who the WEF-globalists ARE.
Had a conversation with an adult nephew last week who said we would be going to Universal Wages/Pay soon.
I said we would not; it would not be fair to those of us who work or worked all our lives for the simple things in life we are grateful for.
He then told me we already have Universal Wages/Pay, and reminded me of all the people living off the dole.
It may not be that we are all getting the same amount of money, but taking a step back I realized he was right. As long as those who work pay for those who do not — which is going on right now — we are already living in a socialist utopia.
Yes, you would think they wouldn’t kill the goose that lays their golden eggs. You would think they’d be smarter than that.
But they aren’t.
The unbridled greed and narcissism has led to a psychotic break, and they are desperate to take us all down with them.
But they won’t.
My first thought is there are always ways to do college cheaply. And if you have supportive family it’s not even that difficult. If you’re a good student you can probably attend a state school cheaply enough to graduate without heavy loans. If you’re not a good student you still have plenty of options though it may take six or seven years and require two years of community college.
My second thought is that forgiving 10k for the irresponsible whiners won’t even make a dent in their monthly payments. So at least I have that comfort.
there are always ways to do college cheaply
yes, but you’re writing as a logical, sensible, and responsible person
expecting logic, common sense, and personal responsibility from liberals is a fool’s errand
As an Indian, you would think she’d be against the US government just tearing up contracts, considering how treaties were ignored to the detriment of her people in the past.
I know my great-grandmother and her people were called “Indians” because apparently Rand McNally wasn’t around yet back then, but she really needs to specify which kind of Indian she claims to be. So we can make sure our memes fit. A part of me hopes she swings to claiming her ancestors came from India. The Bollywood memes we could make would be awesome.
I think everybody knows… that Trump was right, that Biden is a puppet, etc. Many won’t or can’t admit it, even to themselves, but they know. It’s why the left is so bitter and angry.
Trust me when I say this is backfiring in spectacular fashion. Go to Liberal message boards and read. Folks are pissed.
are they pissed because they wanted even more handouts? I assume that is the case. So they’ll just come right bac with some more
I saw one video clip of someone who was upset that it wasn’t more money given out.
some wanted FULL forgiveness…most wanted a MINIMUM of $50k forgiven…..remember a lot of these “Students” were taking useless degrees and going every year to Spring Break using college loan money….I have heard of “graduates” complaining they cannot pay their loans of $200k+ back when all they can get is a minimum wage job……the standard 10 year pay back would call for a $2000/month payment on that loan but there are many payback plans and some are income restrictive
I’ve saved and sacrificed. I find it hard to continue the farce and earn an income for the beast.
Checkout time is getting closer.
“Cold Anger” reminds me of the song title “Calm Like a Bomb” by Rage Against The Machine.
Bulls On Parade is another good one by them
Leaving people under a crushing debt load that makes them unable to afford a house or a spouse or family is cruel and dys-civic. Not dealing with it will have terrible long-term consequences for both the individuals and society. Many of them were lied to and mislead about the value of their degrees, the cost of achieving it, and their ability to use it in the marketplace, and allowed far more debt than the “education” was realistically worth.
But just writing it off is playing those who busted their butts and did everything “right” for chumps. That’s bad, too.
What’s needed is a tiered forgiveness program of some sort that addresses the debt problem, but with an appropriate cost. It also requires a total rework of college funding to keep it from happening in the future, such as requiring the schools to make the loan, and only take repayment as a fixed percentage of their incomes for 7 years after graduation.
Just one example, where people are given 4 options:
1) All student debt and accrued interest totally wiped out, lose voting rights for 14 years, ineligible for certain government benefits or jobs.
2) All interest wiped out, must repay principle in X years, loses voting rights for X years.
3) A principle and interest cram-down to a reasonable total and rate, overall debt consolidation into one loan, given a work-to-pay-it-off program job or military service option, and loses voting rights until it’s paid off, or 7 years whichever is less.
4) Interest wiped out, must repay principle, degree or credits are rescinded, no loss of voting rights.
That solves the financial problem, doesn’t make the hard workers chumps, makes the bankers and schools only write off part of it, gives the schools some skin in the game.
Democrats are putrid whore garbage. I feel the anger.
In the old days, they rode horses, wore masks, and robbed trains.
Nowadays, they become democrats.
………wore masks…………….. Nowadays, they become democrats.
Nowadays the democrats wear their contempt in the open. Their brethren in the republi-con party hide their true identity behind the mask of fake conservative values. They are the enemy from within:
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself.”
― Marcus Tullius Cicero
Doubt if anyone will challenge this. The Dims will frame anyone trying as ‘hating poor kids’ which will discourage most.
And making it even worse is that we as a society are not benefitting from a goodly portion of those who even graduated from colleges as so many majors are in women’s studies, ethnic studies, black studies, Hispanic studies, lbgt studies, and other made up inanities.
Engineering? No. Physics? No Medicine? No.
What the government thinks they are trying to do by “corrective action” is insane. Just like letting thieves rob businesses of $950 without going after them, these “students” need to pay their own bills or they are literally robbing from us.
Unless, of course, they grew up believing the blue ribbons they were given throughout school actually were for doing something good.
Yes I went to college in the late 90s at a later age, in California where it was a bit cheaper at the time.
However, I still took the cheaper route of using Community College for the first two, years or any courses I could take that could be used for my degree. Then I transferred to a University. Even though I could have gotten into several universities I choose the cheaper state university
During the first two years, actually 2 and 1/2 years I paid $10 a unit. Reason it turned into 2 and 1/2 is that I found some other courses that I needed that could be taken at the community college level. H3ck my used text books were usually twice as much as my tuition.
My University was 950 a semester until I reached graduate courses & then it became 1100 a semester.
Found that there were very good and very bad professors at both the community and university level. Strangely found that many of the Community College professors also had PHDs.
Maybe some of you all can tell me the difference, but I haven’t seen it. But why does one have to rack up loans in the amount of $50,000 plus a semester for college when there are other cheaper options. What really bad, is these fees are racked up for degrees that never get used or are totally useless in finding a job.
Because these students are young with no real mental understanding of what is valuable and what is a waste of time. They have been taught that they can do whatever they want and think they will have the same income and possessions as their parents. Their teachers and counselors do not help them with choices.
Counselor: “Oh, you like to draw Manga? You might want to become a graphic artist or a cartoonist, maybe fashion designer.” Doesn’t tell kid that if you don’t have a portfolio of superb quality already in high school, you aren’t going to compete.
Her response was to laugh.
That pretty much says it all.
More people need to be like this man.. 👍👍🇺🇸
When ya see them tell them.
BTW, are so-called student loans still as they were back in my day, late60s-early 70s. I knew a lot of students at my school took out loans, dropped all but one or two of their classes, then used the money for things like a car, and good times.
They never really cared about finishing school. It was simply a place to figure thing out for a year or two before quitting altogether.
Sooooo, what is non-misplaced corrective action?
Election fraud has consequences
WHEN?!?!?! When will enough people finally come together and forcibly remove the corruption from our country?
well I didn’t have any money when I graduated from HS and went to work in a 5 and 10 making 50 cents an hour. my Latin teacher and HS principal connected me with Eisenhower’s new national defense loan (right after sputnik.) being a smart cookie, I finished in three years owing $1500 which covered tuition, room, board, books. then a scholarship was dumped on me for $5000!! that not only paid everything at graduate school including room service but I bought a Desoto. Paid back the loan. those degrees were useful and I’ve always supported myself very well. Am now in the 1%.
China Joe has given the hard working tax paying patriot citizens a BIG MIDDLE FINGER by doing this. But how can this even be legal?
It’s not but no one will challenge it.
Liawatha aka Gray Beaver is just as cold blooded as the Lizard Lady of the DC swamp. They don’t care about the little people they rule over. Their power derived from their lies is all they are worried about. They have no respect for the hard working tax paying ethical American Citizens.
I actually believe that if the government gets out of the student loan business altogether that school fees might start to decline. In any event if a person wants a degree in a subject and the only thing they can do with that degree is teach a class in it, the school should not be able to carry it. Womens’ studies for example, that is going to take you far isn’t it?
I have heard/had many conversations that were semi whispered, often paused with looking over a shoulder. Perhaps it is by design, but the provocation will not end well.
Says the FAKE INDIAN whose whole career was based on a lie that she, the blonde haired, blue eyed, pale skinned woman whose voluntary genetic test showed not even a trace of Native American heritage….. was based on lies that she was an honest to goodness, crab-dip-making-passed-down-from ancestral Cherokee Indian-crab-dip eating-for-generations in Oklahoma tribe…..
Yes I live in Massachusetts and hate this woman with every bone in my body !!!
Hi Ed,
Born and raised there! I love MA. It has so much to offer! Not however the lying evil creature aptly named Liawatha!
Knew she was trash from the get-go. She has done nothing ever to prove my opinion of her wrong.
Unfortunately she and that magnificent state are both corrupt beyond measure, which breaks my heart.
Although it was corrupt long before I was old enough to vote……heavy sigh.
I now live in FL.
Be well!
It’s not hard to see from this short video that the anger is there,, before much longer I can see someone like that man, grabbing the winch,or whoever may be,and totally administrating an ass whooping
My dirt poor parents put two daughters through college. I got my B.A. and teaching credential going to school year round— in three years.
I appreciated the hardship my parents’ (and their generation) lived through. I did not play around on their dime.
I took out a loan for grad school (twice) and paid it off — both times.
In their very senior years (the past 12 years) my sister and I provided senior care at home for both of our parents.
We so owed them— loved, and appreciated them.
Why the hell should taxpayers pay for anybody?
Get off your ass, do the work, and pay your own way.
Take care of your own families!
Unless you are a Clinton, Biden, Pelosi, Romney, Cheney, McCain, etc. —- then the world owes you and your progeny unlimited graft, corruption, on into infinity.
Oh, by the way, drive drunk, start wars, slander, and persecute any and all that stand in your way!