The Wall Street Journal has an interesting article [SEE HERE] outlining inter-connected data points for various state economies in a post-pandemic environment.
The topline takeaways are: (1) Employment in red states has fully recovered, and now exceeds the number of jobs as before the pandemic. (2) Employment in blue states remains below the pandemic numbers; meaning they have not recovered. (3) Net migration still shows people fleeing blue states like New York, California and Illinois; while (4) Net migration into red states like Florida, Texas, North/South Carolina and Tennessee is continuing.

(Wall Street Journal) – […] Forty-six million people moved to a different ZIP Code in the year through February 2022, the most in any 12-month period in records going back to 2010, according to a Moody’s analysis of Equifax Inc. consumer-credit reports. The states that gained the most, led by Florida, Texas and North Carolina, are almost all red, as defined by the Cook Political Report based on how states voted in the past two presidential elections. The states that lost the most residents are almost all blue, led by California, New York and Illinois. (read more)
The professional business class analysts (eyeroll) at the WSJ attribute the demographic shifts to the worker disconnect from the office. Meaning workers can now work from home and are moving to environments where the quality of life is better. White collar workers no longer bound to the geographic limitations of central office locations.
While some of that is likely accurate, there is no consideration for the lockdown effect. The results of the pandemic showcased a very brutal acceptance, more people now seemingly realizing the politics of their regional leadership has a direct and consequential impact to the quality of their life. The blue state leaders, ideologically disposed to dismissing the opinion of citizens, generally dispatched any consideration for the quality-of-life impact they created. The people were irrelevant.
While there were some new revelations about the ideology of some red state leadership having a favorable disposition toward unilateral power (Ohio, Kentucky examples), for the most part the red states were more free and less intrusive in general life. This socioeconomic facet is difficult to quantify and therefore ignored by the analysts looking at the data.
(WSJ) […] Analysts who have studied the migration attributed much of it to the pandemic’s severing of the link between geography and the workplace. Remote work allowed many workers to move to red states, not because of political preferences, but for financial and lifestyle reasons—cheaper housing, better weather, less traffic and lower taxes, the analysts said.
There is no data on what role, if any, political preferences have played in migration decisions. Some researchers have reported that pandemic restrictions played a role for some people who moved.”
When the pandemic first began, and more specifically when the government rules, fiats and ‘lockdown’ approach first started to surface, many people predicted (CTH included) there would be a cleaving of the population based on ideology. People trapped in blue states would want to flee the rules and live in red states. However, this is difficult to quantify.

46 million?
in one year?
Why no video of this mass migration??
I dont believe California is losing population, citizens yes, population overall NO
California grew massively, high rise and medium-density everywhere during Covid
ILLEGALS population has grown massively
I agree, but California still lost 1 seat in Congress due to the last census. I believe they are required by law to count illegals as well as citizens. In any event, it’s one less electoral vote for Democrats in the 2024 Presidential election. The same should have happened in NY and IL.
IL lost population, businesses and another congretional seat with the last census.
Same with NY.
Yep drats redistricting pushed Kinzinger out of office. He’s no loss
And that was without Trump’s planned removal of illegals for representation and electoral college. Another reason that the coup had to happen when it did.
Per USCONS Amndt XIV, apportionment is determined by “counting the whole number of persons in each state, excluding Indians not taxed”. No provision for citizenship.
For sure! In CA we now provide free healthcare, housing, food and legal aid all for free to the illegals. Illegals get housing preference over homeless vets and citizens. Our hair jel governor just signed a bill making it legal to loiter infront of private property for the purposes of prostitution. Talk about the long lost quality of life once a big draw to the state. I’d leave if I was physically able to pack up and leave. Yup, I’m pushing 80.
So everything is now free in CA. Sounds like CA has reached the apex of utopia. It must be like living in heaven on earth. Los Angeles is the city of angels, you know. I heard the rivers are lined with lollipops and flow with milk chocolate, and housing and healthcare is free! Food is free and grows all by itself, drugs and needles are free, everything in stores are free, too! I saw that on tv. You can just smash out windows and take whatever you want. CA sounds like the pinnacle of human achievement. (I’m joking of course)
Throw what you can in the car and head east. Just come to AZ. We value our seniors and all conservative tendencies.
Moved to Az in 2006. State is getting overrun with illegals and commiefornia drats who bring there disgusting voting habits with them. We now have a RINo governor and Ag, 2 drat senators and a Soros buttkisser as SOS
I left commiefornia in 1979 and never returned. I saw even as a 20something what moonbeam, willie brown and the other scum were doing there
Illegals and homeless people are growing while losing taxpayers. Also many former illegals from Mexico are returning home, where things are much better for them than in California.
Where are the tax revenues going to come from for his socialist paradise?
Plus, 40% of the US Homeless population lives in California with it’s moderate climate, generous govt. subsidized essentials and extreme tolerance for crime, drugs and mental incoherance. This Homeless population does not have a lease or mortgage or USPS mail delivery address to track. 40% is untraceable should they migrate to any state as are the increasing numbers of new Homeless arriving in California continually.
The unspoken coming crash of California’s economy, supported by taxes, agriculture sales, Tech firms, housing sales will be defined by this: The unemployed don’t pay taxes.
Individual migrants, uneducated, not speaking English, work at low income; are exempt from paying taxes.
Instead of a one or two income family paying taxes four migrants live in one unit “like” a family. None make enough to pay taxes. Together they’re the new four income “household.”
Yet, all four qualify for subsidies, all their children qualify, their girlfriends and wives qualify; for a tax free life.
I wonder if it includes all the illegals; doubtful.
We can grow pretty much everything here in Florida that they can in California, including avocados, we struggle with grapes mostly really sweet grapes that make really sweet dessert wine. Lots of undeveloped potential farm land also, and a port in Jacksonville and Tampa to name just two. Just thinking out loud.
Was to Tallahassee 2 yrs ago. Certainly has improved with DeSantis in office and doper homo Gildumb no longer mayor there
This is why Gruesome Newsom took out an ad against DeSantis. He just can’t stand the fact that he/California is losing and DeSantis/Florida is gaining, BIGLY.
And so he decides the way to play it is to offer “free” healthcare to illegals.
Newscum, piglosi, harris, feinstein, boxer, and moonbeam brown ruined the golden state.
Arnold didn’t have the backbone he portrays in his movies. He caved to the left with one loss. Guess being governor is not like playing one in movies.
Well, he always thought of himself as a Kennedy.
Arnold married the Kennedy but bred the housekeeper.
That sure sounds like a Kennedy to me – and I’m pretty sure that he screwed all of us.
Ah bold was married to a Kennedy family member. That enough should have been a warning
Schwarzenegger didn’t help either.
We left my beloved Virginia in very early 2020, moved to eastern/middle TN. It was a gut wrenching decision as everyone I grew up with is in Virginia but we could see the writing on the wall. And we were apparently not alone. There is an almost steady stream of people moving here. Our population is growing like crazy.
Housing is very hard to find, new construction has barely slowed. Jobs are still plentiful with good wages, but inflation is eating that up. Prices are rather high with gas averaging $5.50 and up, diesel well over $6. Food inflation is astronomical.
However, we enjoy constitutional carry. No state income tax. We had very sporadic lockdowns in the beginning but they ended quickly, masks were not widely mandated, mostly individual businesses who wanted it and all health care related facilities. There were plenty of places to do business that did not require masks. We loved that.
Local area is serious MAGA red Trump country. Freedom abounds in so many ways and one can choose to be left alone and it’s all good. Nicest people in the world are my neighbors whom welcomed us with open arms the day we moved in.
I believe the idiots in the media would never admit what is true, but if what we experienced can be extrapolated it probably is true that a huge migration is underway.
We were hoping to move from Cali to TN but the house prices have gone through the roof, so we are going to Missouri instead. LOTS of people in my online freedom loving communities have or are moving to Tennessee.
I have lived in MO all my life. Since you’re on here commenting I’ll trust that you don’t vote for the idiocy that you’re fleeing. Welcome to freedom! And humidity… 😉
One thing we’re really proud of is that our legislature just passed (and gov signed) a bill requiring paper ballots, one day voting, and ID required. And of course, there’s Hawley…and if AG Schmitt, who’s already made quite a name for himself fighting obama’s unconstitutional third term, gets the other senate seat — woah, yeah. (I seriously hope it doesn’t go to Hartzler, who has served one term in the House and now wants a six-term senate seat when no one can name an accomplishment– other than name recognition– from her two-year term.)
Those who don’t pay attention to “less flashy” — HA — issues like consistently beating FJB in court on one thing after another recognize the names of other senate candidates over Schmitt, when he has been a real hero as a fighting AG.)
Yep, the cost-of-living is excellent, as as long as you stay away from the cities, which of course, is the point, as nobody moves to MO to live in SL or KC, right? And people generally good-hearted, with just a few local pockets of good-ol-boy corruption as happens in small towns everywhere. CTHers always welcome!
Some of neighbors were seeking political asylum.. those that swam the river are seeking economic asylum .. At one time I lived in a lovely affordable neighborhood, now it borders on a slum. Many speak English however it’s not their first language
I am from Kentucky. We saw something very interesting happen as it concerns the mistake we made electing a Democrat governor. Our legislature found some courage as they realized that it was on them to do something that only they could do. Once they started the process of defying the governor, they found that most of Kentucky supported them and the sky did not fall. Democrats and the press screamed in panic, but it did not matter. It was okay and the Republicans in the legislature are much less RINO than they were before finding that it is acceptable to be conservative and they will not be punished by the people that matter. .
News flash. Your Dem governor was most likely installed with election fraud. It’s those daang phantom voters. No need to vote, we’ll vote for you, and if you do vote, make sure you vote correctly. It’s how the Dems win.
Yup, Beshar was the first place that they captured a live vote swap in 2018.
That said, Kentucky was one of the few Red states that didn’t provide the Trump administration with election data that they requested right after entering office, which immediately made me think of Mitch.
Maybe, but Bevin made it a close enough race that the cheating did not even have to be ridiculous. Bevin tried to do too much in too many areas and did not have the political skills to make it work.
Mitch hates Bevin for nearly beating him in a primary. Without Mitch, you lose the party machine in Kentucky. If Bevin had won his primary, he would have lost the Senate race.
Bevin made a big mistake, not by going after the teachers, as many say, but by not going after them hard enough.
Massachusetts here. I’d leave in a heartbeat if my industry wasn’t so tied to this state. Pharma and biotech are here, so workers in those fields are here. I’m going elsewhere as soon as I can retire (sadly I have 10 yrs to get there).. Not sure where, but I’m sick of looney liberal land.
But that’s me. Most of the people here seem to vibe with the blue pill. They thrive on being part of the hive. They don’t think for themselves. If their TV says orange man bad, hate him – they will gladly do it.
I do know some here in MA, but only a few, maybe 5-10% max, who would move to get away from these crazy COVID policies. I find it hard to believe that this state was the supposed cradle of liberty for the US. I can’t see these folks dumping tea in the harbor. I guess the good genes moved on to other states long ago.
My employer is a WEF member, so they’re all over this pandemic stuff (and making lots of $$), but I’ve been posing questions to those above – do we know if we’re losing employees because they’re going to other employers that aren’t masking and social distancing and demanding the vax? They’re all in a tizzy over turnover. Well, if I can make $20/hr here wearing a mask all damn day, but I can go down the street and make $19/hr and not wear a mask, how many would go for $19? Planting little seeds where I can.
CC, MA here…. economic retired refugees from NY and CT are driving the property values into insanity here. Local govt. Is driving up the taxes 300 a year with all the new “services”, DPW projects, and public buildings they demand. All the while they are building high density housing at an alarming rate. This really cool place is already failing for thousands of small businesses… the locusts will tear though this place before my kids graduate HS.
I’m a former western masshole, my wife and I moved to Alabama in 2018.
Best decision ever.
My father moved to NC last year.
Best decision ever for him.
My sister and brother in law moved to NC also.
Best decision ever.
Get out when you can. Massachusetts is a dump.
I grew up in Westfield… wmass used to be a great place. We almost moved to GA during the beginning of covid… damm i should have pulled the trigger but I have old parents still here
Look who they elect. Tsongas’. Fat Ted. Barney F#g. Gerry pedo Studds. Delahunt. Marxist Markey. Chieftess Sitting Bs, otherwise known as. Pocahontas. Dukakis. Mittens. Weld. Not one decent human amongst any of them. I forgot to mention Lurvh
If you read anything about the Civil War, the first thing that you will notice is that besides the Midwestern states, Massachusetts had some of the best soldiers ever seen on Earth. It breaks my heart that I can’t say the same about my native Pennsylvania soldiers. They were usually the ones who cowered and broke ranks, causing military routes. But maybe that’s where some of the good Massachusetts genes went besides moving out of state.
I would like to see the evidence for that. Certainly NY had some great and also not-so-great regiments.
How about the Pennsylvania Reserves (out of which came Reynolds and Meade)?
I’m in MA also. Been here my whole 64 years and I hate it! I work with people my age and younger who vote communist because their parents and grandparents did. Would never ever consider voting republican. Idiots. If it weren’t for my two small grandchildren, I’d be looong gone. Probably out of the country. Maybe Costa Rica.
Move to NH: http://www.freestateproject.org
Here is my story: 53 year old male that worked for the state of california as a peace officer. The covid insanity was the breaking point for me. I just could not take any more. I retired, sold my house at the peak, took my pension and savings to Oklahoma. It was hard to leave family behind but I have kids to think about too. I find Oklahoma a bit too liberal but a breath of fresh air to cali. We bought a house for cash and are living like we are rich. Locals complain about high prices but to me everything is cheap. Gas is about $1.50 gal cheaper, any labor/service, restaurants, stuff in Wally world is all less expensive. As I get more settled in I am going to make sure that my local and state representatives know that we want to keep this MAGA and NRA/GOA country. No RINOs need apply.
Please tell me that you didn’t move to the area directly south of Oklahoma City (around Moore), it’s quite possibly the worst tornado magnet in the state.
The neighborhood in Moore that I lived in was erased off of the face of the Earth in the F5 that hit there in 1999, about all that was left was bits of asphalt, sidewalks, along with water, sewer, and gas pipe stubs.
That was only my second reason for fleeing the state, however: McCurtain County (Southeastern corner), quite possibly one of the most corrupt places I’ve ever lived, and I’m still dealing with illegal family shenanigans (the latest rage is stealing property from family by the use of quit claim deeds and forged signatures).
Also in 2013. I believe Moore has had 3 EF4/5 tornadoes since 1999. Saw once where Dr Forbes from the Weather Channel once said the OKC area has every ingredient for tornadoes every spring
Now that is a good post.
Watch the weather there. Most dangerous tornadoes occur there.
Okc had a huge influx of moosepigs in the early 2000s. From what I read they make up about 20%of OKCs population
I would expect significant numbers to be “refugees” intentionally sent to red states, a practice begun in earnest during the Great Dividers tenure.
Migration concerning one of my offspring from the Pacific Northwest to Florida a few months ago had very little to do with Covid concerns, although this particular offspring’s spouse, upon presenting a particular vaccination card to the spouse’s new medical-based employer in Florida, looked at the card and asked, “what do you want me to do with that?”, as it apparently wasn’t ever necessary in that part of Florida. You either got it here or you didn’t work in healthcare, however, although health-related employers here now have entire groupings of job openings they can’t fill…
What was a completely-deciding factor was, however, the problem with morons fleeing to Oregon (where my entire family, now minus the one child, resides…much to our detriment), and buying up any piece of propety…at insane prices…that either already had a house on it, or a plot of land that you could put a house onto. I know of one crappy 2-bedroom manufactured home not too far from me that sold for $290,000…and it was inside a manufactured home park, you didn’t even own the land under the house.
This is the reason that the one kid left, this particular offspring and the spouse were making $36 and $40 an hour…and they went homeless here, the only places left to live were a few shitty apartment complexes demanding thousands of dollars to get in, and most times the available apartments were only available due to floors falling in, mold everywhere, or some other despicable living condition. Those two even tried living out of a fifth-wheel camper trailer at one point, but even the camper had to be sold when there was no longer available anyplace to park that thing for any length of time.
What did the government do in the Pacific Northwest that’s really affected everyone? They’ve been advertising non-stop to get other people to move here and drive up the cost of living. My small city spends millions of dollars every year in advertising to sociopathic Californians and Seattle idiots to move here, never mind there’s no place for them to live, and what little new home construction does put up, city fathers never do anything to improve infrastructure, so this area has become a massive, gigantic traffic jam from 5am until 9pm…and this is just in the last couple of years.
Are you on a fixed income? Sorry, you’ll have to go.
Making less than $200,000 a year? Whoops, no place for you here, median home price is now well above $700,000.
I know scores of businesses that are supposedly desperate to hire…but nobody’s applying, there isn’t anyone left to work, as the demographic of people who are moving here and displacing the worker bee class, they don’t work at these types of jobs. Although now that I think about it, I’ve applied for over 200 jobs locally in the last year, have gone through over 100 interviews, and I’m still sitting here, unemployed, so I think that the Sociopath management model might simply be complaining about not being able to find workers, but for the skeleton staff that remains, owners and managers can work them to death while making up stories about how “nobody is applying!”.
The joke is on people moving here, however, as the state of Oregon is actually going broke, having spent themselves into oblivion with public worker retirement spending, in a short time, paying that bill will completely drain the general fund, so to that end, Oregon seeks a few million good men and women to pay exorbitant costs for houses and property, so their property tax collection can increase…that’s what government is doing here, hoping that the party continues so they can get a much-needed infusion of cash from morons who apparently flunked Home Economics.
In the end, I and a couple of other offspring are wanting to flee the Pacific Northwest, as California has gone insane, Washington isn’t far behind, and I’m not really sure why Oregon hasn’t followed suit, although it can’t be far behind.
Concerning moving to Florida, however, my offspring that moved there a few months ago, there’s a problem with being a real estate agent, in that there’s precious little inventory to be found, unless it’s either way overpriced garbage (that’s now becoming a thing), or decent houses get 50-100 offers within an hour of coming online for sale, or the mere-mortal-priced houses were owned by either really old people, or their boomer children who didn’t spend anything on upkeep, and everything in that price range needs a roof or some other major series of repairs.
In other words, at some point, to paraphrase Roy Scheider: We’re gonna need a bigger Red State.
Alabama is a nice state.
That’s actually option 2. Kid 1 isn’t too far from Alabama.
One of my friends moved there last year. They weren’t sure it was where they would stay, but they love it. They would like to see a governor upgrade, however.
I hear the same thing is happening in Idaho, which has always been a sister state of OR.
Ive only been in OR 6 years, but know of a couple conservative families that left for Idaho.
The rent is too damn high! Or so they say.
Quick story: When I pulled my Uhaul and truck convoy of friends and family
into my new plot of land in Oregon, 6 years ago, everything had a CA plate on it.
We we’re unloading and unpacking, and someone drove down the road
and yelled out at us, “Californians, Go Home!”
A common joke where I’m at is, if you’re from CA, “Somebody forgot to lock the gate at the pass”.
Olympic Peninsula of WA here. Nothing in either the WSJ article or your fine, comprehensive comment applied to my region of small, waterfront towns throughout the entire pandemic. The restaurants all became “streeteries”, requiring masking indoors and not outdoors. Very few closures of any kind. The movie theatre went “virtual” and INCREASED business! Online festivals stayed afloat, and are back to normal this year. There was indeed a housing price bubble (mine went up in value 135%, but it’s already paid for), and now there’s a construction boom of equal size going on in response.
Even if you hate the WA government passionately, people will still endure, adapt and do whatever it takes if they want access to water and mountains, temperate weather, great local produce/brews and world-class music. That ocean’s not going anywhere. This is NOT a comment in any way denigrating the many other fine places to live and work, but I’m glad I chose this place to retire to. I’m staying put.
Our permanent residence is SW PA…all Blue in our county. We ventured down to NE FL in 2019 and bought a home on Amelia Island..Nassau County has good schools, low taxes and we are a mile from the beach..its very conservative..Last spring 2021 we randomly picked Marion County FL, Ocala. Bought a nice house 3 miles from town for 245000..4 bedroom ranch with pool and guest house..just under an acre..it’s a red county..the attraction is the World Equestrian Center..the market has stabilized in Marion County..you can purchase a nice 3 bedroom ranch for 200000..we enjoy both places..just have to sell our PA properties and cut the cord.
I would not be optimistic that blue state migrants change their voting habits when they move to red state . In Ct , seems like half of trendy NYC Tribeca has moved to Fairfield County , CT in last year or so – for family safety , suburbia etc , but they will still vote Dem . , Regardless , especially for national offices . – So it doesn’t really matter in CT , cause always solid blue ( urban centers control vote ) , it will just be more safely Bluer , unfortunately …
IT NEVER FAILS. They will continue to vote Democrat. People are delusional if they think they won’t.
Here in TX where I live, our Republican Club has grown with lots of people from Cali—they love being able to be conservative openly! (And they are some of the most outspoken against liberalism!) So all may not be lost….yet.
Sort of makes my point , I think , these movers were Conservatives in their Calif. Blue state , and now happy to be in red state where they feel more comfortable . Red to Red so to speak – don’t see many NE libs moving to Texas -to Fla. yes where they will take their blue state voting preferences with them … as these Texas newbies did actually – Probably You don’t change your politics regardless where you happen to move to , like your religion , you don’t change that because you moved…
Overall you better hope that there are not so many blue state Dems (NY , Ill. , Calif whatever etc) moving to a red or purple state to tip the balance there , because they will still vote Dem regardless of their newer location . IMHO – another words , Moving for economic , social reasons , but these are NOT “ political converts” making the move …
I’m in Fairfield, sigh.
We left WA and moved to WV this year. Grew up on the west coast, paid a lot of taxes there. Barring an emergency, we will never set foot on the west coast again. The hardest part was leaving our friends, but other than that it was an easy choice.
The biggest change so far is getting used to the additional freedom. We’ve made some friends already and when asking them, can you do this? or who do you contact to get permission to do that? they look at us like we’re aliens. It’s pretty funny.
Living here now is more like things were when I was a kid (I’m 45).
Love SE WV!!!!
I live in a coastal resort of Maryland. Hardly a bastion of freedom. Most of my neighbors are from NY,PA,NJ,DC. Some had 2nd homes here, and just settled here. Others just scarfed up older “fix-er-uppers”.
I think Salisbury was considered something of the “redneck” part of MD back in my time living in Annapolis.
Red states are getting redder. Blue states are getting redder. We are watching the end of the D party.
Thanks for destroying Florida with blue locusts!
My now-in-Florida offspring has received a fair bit of hell with his Oregon license plates. It’s not until the kid gets a chance to explain, “hey, I’m probably more red than you are” that it eases up.
They should get Florida plates.
Dan Bongino likes to say, everyone is welcome in FL come on down, except for the looney libs, sorry, but the state is closed.
My wife and I plan on moving out of California. The reasons are plenty and related to these policies:
1. Homeless (out of control)
2. Mental illness (major source of homeless. They do not treat the mebtally ill and put them on the streets instead)
3. Corrupt elections (Newsom recall vote would have put him out of office but for the corruption like voter role games, ballot harvesting, postal service dumping ballots, etc)
4. Crime increase and non prosecution
5. High taxes (property tax, gas tax, etc)
I could keep going on but you get the idea. Liberal policies run amok.
We want out
I’m there with you!!
No monocausal explanation here. Escaping high taxes, high crime, increasingly visible illegals in our streets, and a pathological tendency to totalitarianism on the part of our political class pretty much clears the bases here in the Twin Cities. Wyoming beckons.
I lived in NY for fifty years. For the last several years I have wanted to move out because of the politics and the ridiculous cost of buying a house thanks to the insane property taxes. The lockdowns were the last straw and I was finally able to convince my wife that our quality of life would improve drastically if we moved to a red state. DeSantisland has been all we hoped for and more.
At the same time last year, our neighbors down the street in NY retired and moved to the other coast in Florida. Since then my wife’s best friend has also moved from NY to Florida. They’re all solid red voters. At the time we left, I did not know a single person who wanted to stay in NY. Only people who felt they were unable to leave because of work or family.
Most NYers (except for limo liberal Manhattanites) are solid red voters. The problem is stolen elections.
Those that post here accusing “We voted for that” haven’t been paying attention for the last forty years or so.
Do they assume Let’s Go Brandon won, too? Smh
I have seen you say this before – you couldn’t be more wrong – wishful enclave thinking doesn’t make it so – Look at voter roles 2021 for NY – entire NY State 6.7million Dem / 2.9 Rep -in NYC ( which is Manhattan ,Bronx , Brooklyn , Queens and Staten Island ) 3.7 million Dems and only 566,000 Rep ‼️ So NYC alone outvotes Rep. statewide -so get real, NY is never going Red nationally and nobody is being robbed ( figuratively speaking )
No, you have plenty of libs in places like Rochester and Buffalo. Now southern tier I can see as relatively red.
Look at the numbers above -Be a realist – Dems outnumber Rep. in N y state by over 3 million voters – you can look at your rural/ suburban NY neighbor next door and all vote red , oh boy ! there are 4 or 6 Rep. votes right there ! – you go to NYC apt complex and you have 5,000 Dem votes at one address – wishing does not make (red) unicorns , at least in NY
I’m sitting in my son’s house in rural area in Hays County Texas. He can trace his ancestors to prehistoric California. His wife is a 4th generation Californian. They moved their family of 5 to Texas 18 months ago because of California’s tyrannical lockdown and the predatory influence in the public schools.
I have spent more time in Texas than California for the last 2 years. The only reason I spend any time at all in California is because my husband and my daughter’s family are still there. It’s really hard for them to leave the home of their ancestors but I like to remind them our ancestors would want us to be healthy and free.
When I read this piece to my son he asked, “How many of our friends have moved from California in the last year?” We laughed when I said it would be easier to count the ones who haven’t. Most good Americans can’t take the mask mandates, forced clot shots and worst of all, the promotion of child exploitation.
Most all my friends in CA want to leave. Some will. Some will stay.
It depends on their money and family situations.
My remaining family in CA is staying. They are entrenched.
They still ask me, “so how is it? Do you miss CA?”
I always answer, “nope”.
Red states/counties should, if possible, pass into law a reverse “carpetbagger” provision that establishes a 2-year wait on state/local voting for any new out-of-state (or country) arrivals. Think of it like a “Prevent Leftism Migration Act”.
SC here – seems like even during Covid, no one really adhered to the masks. Even when a few stores put up signs that they were required, I’d walk in without and no one would say anything. My immediate 2 hour radius feels like a safe bubble. A lot of people moving here from blue states and they love it. Real Estate agent friends tell me all the new construction is due to the influx from other states as the home inventory is much lower than the demand. Gas and groceries, while much higher than a year ago, is still much cheaper than in many parts of the country.
Texas here. New neighbor moved from Portland, OR. Husband works from home. Said they wanted to be somewhere warmer and less expensive. Invited them over for dinner, but they cancelled at the last minute. Reason: They went to Austin to the protest of the Roe v Wade decision! 😏 Mark down 2 new Dem voters for Texas.
Oh yes, they drive a new electric car. Aren’t they special?! 🙄
A strange occurrence is happening here in Oregon: The appearance of Texas license plates on vehicles that only a blue-state individual would own.
Turns out that a lot of these folks are actually blue Californians who fled to Texas, didn’t research how miserable the weather was there (and how red various parts of Texas is), pulled up stakes again, and moved to Oregon.
Interesting! Sorry they are coming your way.🙁
😂😂😂😂 typical dumb liberal dolt.
I’m a political refugee from Commiefornia. After 55 years, totally sick of high taxes, unnecessary redundant regulations, and inane liberals from the Bay Area turning a beautiful rural county located in what we hoped would become part of the State of Jefferson a little bluer every year, I left for a free state. Crossing the Colorado River for the last time I actually felt an enormous relief as if a pack had been lifted off my back. A beautiful State ruined by liberalism, plain and simple.
California is what I like to call the other face of mental illness: The sociopathic locust class.
We are two retired senior citizens who left NY state last June 2021. If u recall Gov. Cuomo said [after the safe act passed in the middle of the night) “if you are conservative and don’t like your state government, leave”
So we moved to wonderful Tennessee! Never looked back. Best decision ever. He finally got the boot but never answered for the hundreds of seniors in nursing homes who died due to his covoid policy. Good riddance NYS!!!!and then there’s Hochol who creates rules that circumvent the Supreme Court. civil war?
Judy and Gary
In Crossville Tennessee
We moved to Crossville 4 years ago from Blue Maryland. The economics of no state income and low property taxes are incredible and being at 2,000 feet the weather is great. House prices have increased significantly with the new people relocating but the overall cost of living is still reasonable.
Our county Mayor was the voice of reason during the pandemic. Use your judgement. No mandates here, just good communication about what the numbers were.
Best move we could have made.
I’m glad that Cuomo didn’t get a chance to kill you like he did so many seniors.
Congratulations on your escape! 🙂
But what type of people are we gaining is the question brought to red state residents.
I moved from WA to an inland western red state precisely because of illegal and unconstitutional “mandates.” No governor has the authority to close my church or order me to cover my face. No, there is no exception if he claims a good enough reason for doing so.
I know a flaming libtard who recently moved to Arizona from CA
He is as bad as they come.
And he is already complaining about the conservatives.
He said he’ll bring his views and doesn’t care.
Hey, it’s a free country. Ya can’t stop these fools from moving.
The problem is that these Blue State migrants continue voting Blue when they move. That is undeniable. People don’t suddenly change their political affiliations because they move a few hundred miles.
I can only speak about NY but in Long Island, Staten Island and upstate NY the majority of voters are red. It may even be close to 50% in the state but the GOP has no real chance to elect governors or senators due to the massive voting fraud in NY City. The people leaving are red voters. The blue voters seem quite happy with the shithole they’ve created. I never heard of any of them wanting to move.
People who want red state MAGA refugees to stay out are not thinking clearly. Maybe they are CCP plants or else they have been brainwashed by them.
Who doesn’t want a red wave to solidify in their state? What makes them think that people who leave blue states are voting blue? Does that make any sense at all?
I moved specifically because of the mask culture in Southern Maine. I didn’t move to a different state though so I’m still in a purple state, but the very very red part of it
Unfortunately, even though their geographic location changes and they reap the benefits: lower or no income taxes, low crime relative to where they use to be, cost of goods cheaper, etc., for many their ideology does not change.
I understand many are “Conservatives”, but the others are ideologically “left”. Look at what Austin, TX has become.
Trump won Texas this past election, but not by as much as he should have. Sure, there was most likely some fraud, keep in mind the “establishment” R’s, use those same Dominion voting machines as D’s do.
Could be why those in power in D.C. never even dicuss investigating voter fraud, otherwise someone might uncover the dirty little secret no one talks about, one of many.
That’s the only thing I can think of as to why Graham (SC) wins by the margins he does, yet nationally, no one likes him, ( 1% support nationally in 2016 primaries ??? ).
Gingrich is more popular in SC than Graham.
texas is full. please choose another destination.
North Carolina is starting to overflow. Apartments are being built everywhere and rent is skyrocketing. Just an FYI, our Gov Cooper was a pain in the butt during covid and we’ve still got 2.5 years to go in his term.
Red states should provide one-way transportation to a Blue state for abortion seekers. That would really help cull the heard in Red states.
Just moved from MD to Florida for that very reason. Hogan was awful and he’s the best MD will ever get – it’s all downhill from there.
NY State had 41 electoral votes in 1972.
It will have just 29 in 2024.
This is due to the loss of jobs under mostly Democrat rule for 50 years.
NY had 45 electoral votes in the year I was born, 1960, by far the most in the country (PA and CA had 32, IL 27, OH 25, TX 24 and the rest less than 20 each, many 10 or less). In my opinion, having lived here for 62 years, the population shift has been more due to the astronomical taxes and cost-of-living than due to any job losses. A great many of the jobs in this state are either directly or indirectly tied to Wall Street, and while there have been the normal ups and downs over the years, the NY unemployment rate has generally been as good or better than the national rate.
But over the last 50 years or so, taxes and cost-of-living have accelerated far above the national average. And yes, it’s been mainly under D rule, but we have had RINOs here since before the term was invented, and the Rs are complicit also. They didn’t call them Rockefeller Republicans for nothing.
I have met many new FL. arrivals and all have been Trump supporters…..until last nite.
I determine what people “are” by saying: “Don’t we have a great Governor?!”
The enthusiasm is wonderful.
Last nite- at July 4th celebration of all places- I met someone who’d just moved here fr/ NYC.
She was So. Happy. to be here in FL., said she’d been here a couple years.
So I gave her my test question.
She. Failed. The .Test. and I was sooooo pi$$ed. The look of disdain on my face at her failing grade took her aback. GOOD.
Nicely told her I’d moved here fr/ Seattle and she’d LOVE it out there. Great weather, yada yada.
I am serious, I want these people out of here.
Hopefully she saw the Newsom YT where he’s begging people to move to CA. Helluva lot better climate th/ Florida.
If you don’t love freedom, keep your butt outta here.
Can you tell I’m still pissed?
Luckily, right after that I met another transplant who’s Repub.
But,- God forgive me- I still want that other nut outta here.
Sick of these people. Had waaay more th/ enough of them after over 20 years on the West Coast.
We are moving from the Northeast to N. Carolina for the reasons put forth in the article. Overarching Covid restrictions, taxes and quality of life. I will miss my home and family but freedom is much more important.
Kalifornia’s Dictator Governor Neswsom aims to reverse that trend with his ads against DeSantis.
LOL!
What a moron.
Moved from northern IL to Pensacola,FL in November of 2021. We always had the itch to move from IL but the COVID madness made our decision easy.
No mention of what is happening in New Hampshire with the Free State project?
http://www.freestateproject.org
Seems to me that red states need to tighten their requirements to be a citizen eligible to vote in their state.
Too many traitors moving…
Back in 1992, Colorado Republicans passed TABOR, which has been a lifesaver for us. All red states should be enacting measures specifically intended to block Democrats’ insane policies proactively.
After reading most of the comments here, we need to refer to this thread as THE GREAT DIVIDE. North America needs two countries.
We live in New Mexico and our Governor kept us locked down all of 2020 and half of 2021 (maybe longer). Sent her Gestapo State Police to fine anyone or any business daring not to keep silent and obey. But then her “poll” numbers started to drop and since she’s up for re-election, we were once again allowed to roam free. Too late for small business, too late for our kids that missed a year and a half of school, but she did finally remove the mask order for the kids a couple months ago. Unfortunately, New Mexico is really blue so she will probably win re-election. The “Republican” running against her was a tv weatherman….lol
We will be moving to AZ next year to retire and I pray Kari Lake wins as Governor. The absolute ROT that comprises the so-called elections in the state needs to be fixed. Trump won, easily! Too many RINOs that are too afraid to pass any real election laws. Maybe with Kari Lake things can change.
I’m not yet one of those to move, but will be. I’m retiring early (first half of 50’s) from an aerospace job in the Seattle region. I can’t wait to get the heck out of this dumpster fire of an area. The loonies running Seattle, and thereby Olympia, have made what is a physically beautiful area unlivable with crime, lockdown BS, mask mandates, stick thing in arm mandates, and the rest. My large aerospace company tried to impose the mandate at the end of 2021….I was walking out the door along with 15,000 other employees when they pulled back at the last minute. No more for me. Idaho or Montana, here I come. I’m tired of being in the political minority where I’m at – I look forward to joining the political majority.
BTW – a family member moved to Arizona, the Phoenix area specifically, in late 2021.
Been selling off my rental property in OR and buying houses in ID since Gov Brown made a royal decree that if you didn’t feel like paying rent you didn’t have to. Rental income is a big part of our future retirement income and the laws in ID are far more landlord friendly. Collecting about 20% more in rental income is an added bonus. I’m sure this cause and effect never entered the 50cc cranium of Gov socialist prune face. Developing my last property here then selling my primary residence and moving to ID. OR is such a beautiful state rich in resources led by a cabal of utopian commie idealists running it into the ground. Everywhere commies have control there is rampant homelessness, unemployment, poverty, burned out buildings, spray painted baby scribbles on the walls, violent crime, human waste and needles on the streets. This is utopia? This is the Democrat’s grand vision for the future? If Satan came up from his kingdom in hell to Portland he would look around and say, “Is this my hell or the one my communist minions created? I can’t tell the difference!”
I don’t expect there is a statistic on anyone moving to a blue state? That might indicate how much liberals really believe in their causes – climate change, pro-choice, eating plants only (which seems like it would be in conflict with the goal of combatting climate change, but I don’t think liberals are logical).
“While there were some new revelations about the ideology of some red state leadership having a favorable disposition toward unilateral power (Ohio, Kentucky examples)…” Pence’s hand picked successor in Indiana, Eric Holcomb, amply demonstrated his mini-mussolini urges throughout the pandemic. The legislature found itself embroiled in a legal battle over his states of emergency declarations and fought over numerous other issues. I’d bet good money he’s so tone deaf he thinks he’s still got a political future in this state, but when he vetoed the guys in girls sports bill (veto overridden), that was the end of his career only he doesn’t seem to know it.
SF Bay area here, Fourth generation conservative Californian. 63 years old.. four years ago my IRA became like cash… It wasn’t enough to pay for my future retirement home outright but it covered a 35% down payment on a house in CDA… Coeur d Alene Idaho.
We are renting it for 20 more months until I retire… I call it my California life boat..
My state has gone to he…ll.
When we went to look for housing in CDA on the first day… we were driving through town and a 20 something man in a big Ford truck rolled down his window and gave us double “birds”…
I got out of the truck and looked at our rental car we picked up at the Spokane airport plate’s…
Sure enough.. they were CA plates… At that moment I knew I was at home… that 20 something local and I felt the exact same way… F California
Bringing liberal voting ideas with them.
Fla, NC, SC won’t be red states much longer.
The monies leaving these Coastal States is YUGE.
Commie pigs stay in Commiefornia, NY, ill annoys me ,or Oregon.
I’m moving out of California to VA.
I am moving out of PA and into WI. I hate the politics of PA. Corrupt!
I was involved in a business deal for a 50 million dollar startup in rural south central PA in the early 90’s. Local officials were officially supportive of it but silently held up permitting–silently waiting to be quietly approached with bribes.
The business was never built. Corrupt officials killed 200 jobs in an underemployed county.
Those officials belong in the traitors’ circle in hell.
The hell that is frozen all the time.
People wth sense will walk away from corruptiom if they cannot overcome it.
I live in ill annoys me, but I’m definitely not a commie pig. I vote conservative in Illinois and would do likewise in any other state that I may happen to move to.