The Wall Street Journal has an interesting article [SEE HERE] outlining inter-connected data points for various state economies in a post-pandemic environment.
The topline takeaways are: (1) Employment in red states has fully recovered, and now exceeds the number of jobs as before the pandemic. (2) Employment in blue states remains below the pandemic numbers; meaning they have not recovered. (3) Net migration still shows people fleeing blue states like New York, California and Illinois; while (4) Net migration into red states like Florida, Texas, North/South Carolina and Tennessee is continuing.
(Wall Street Journal) – […] Forty-six million people moved to a different ZIP Code in the year through February 2022, the most in any 12-month period in records going back to 2010, according to a Moody’s analysis of Equifax Inc. consumer-credit reports. The states that gained the most, led by Florida, Texas and North Carolina, are almost all red, as defined by the Cook Political Report based on how states voted in the past two presidential elections. The states that lost the most residents are almost all blue, led by California, New York and Illinois. (read more)
The professional business class analysts (eyeroll) at the WSJ attribute the demographic shifts to the worker disconnect from the office. Meaning workers can now work from home and are moving to environments where the quality of life is better. White collar workers no longer bound to the geographic limitations of central office locations.
While some of that is likely accurate, there is no consideration for the lockdown effect. The results of the pandemic showcased a very brutal acceptance, more people now seemingly realizing the politics of their regional leadership has a direct and consequential impact to the quality of their life. The blue state leaders, ideologically disposed to dismissing the opinion of citizens, generally dispatched any consideration for the quality-of-life impact they created. The people were irrelevant.
While there were some new revelations about the ideology of some red state leadership having a favorable disposition toward unilateral power (Ohio, Kentucky examples), for the most part the red states were more free and less intrusive in general life. This socioeconomic facet is difficult to quantify and therefore ignored by the analysts looking at the data.
(WSJ) […] Analysts who have studied the migration attributed much of it to the pandemic’s severing of the link between geography and the workplace. Remote work allowed many workers to move to red states, not because of political preferences, but for financial and lifestyle reasons—cheaper housing, better weather, less traffic and lower taxes, the analysts said.
There is no data on what role, if any, political preferences have played in migration decisions. Some researchers have reported that pandemic restrictions played a role for some people who moved.”
When the pandemic first began, and more specifically when the government rules, fiats and ‘lockdown’ approach first started to surface, many people predicted (CTH included) there would be a cleaving of the population based on ideology. People trapped in blue states would want to flee the rules and live in red states. However, this is difficult to quantify.
GA is a red state but that didn’t stop them. What does red state even mean anymore? Uniparty has no color affiliation.
Amen…see Greg Abottt.
The state is red because of the people who live there. In normal times the people elect their representatives. Not anymore. The people are being held hostage. Pretending not to know things isn’t going to make it better
Of course it is….but that’s not my point.
Abbott is a RINO, a paid up member of the Uniparty you mention. He is a Bushie as well.
That was my point.
I know that was your point. I expanded
Fair play, Mass.
Abbott showed his colours bouncing all over blue state to blue state inviting their businesses to move to Texas. He now says he’ll tackle the border when a new president is elected.
To my way of thinking, that makes him an honorary member of the drug cartels operating well within our border.
But we’re stuck with him. A Frat Boy O’Rourke would blow up the whole state.
Anyway, I’m off topic, so I’ll leave it. Cheers.
Plata y Plomo Abbott is the the Big Fish when it comes to Cartel Enablers. He hasn’t done doodley squat. I wish Dana Loesch had time to call him out on that instead of her lame “Florida Man” segments. I wouldn’t say a word about another State or it’s shortcomings when my home State is number one in the World for Hard Dope and Child Sex Trafficking.
Child sex trafficking and drug and people trafficking…
…the only supply chains which have not been disrupted, CR. Amen.
Agree
Red State?
I have lived in Georgia since the early 70’s. Georgia only elected our first lifetime Republican as Governor in 2018 (Kemp).
Perdue and Deal were both Democrats. I don’t know how conservative people thought those Dixiecrat converts were going to be. We had Democrats in House and Senate until 2002.
Georgia has a long way to go before we are truly conservative.
Trump won too
Yept!!!! Liars.
No, the first republican governor since reconstruction (125+ years) was Sonny Purdue (it was incredible he won), 2003-11, (Trumps Ag Secretary), then Nathan Deal, 2011-19, then Brian Kemp. Roy Barnes was the most recent Democrat governor.
Oh, sorry. I see you said “lifetime”. Sorry. But Sonny Perdue turned out to be a good one.
That is a matter of perspective. I was close to the GOP in the state government at the time and found Sonny to be a Democrat turned Republican grifter.
Predictably, Barnes always got stellar press. Predictably, none of the
press looked into how Barnes was a complete Bondit. One of his proposals
( the one that scared me most) was the creation of the “One Georgia Authority”.
One stop shopping for him and all his fellow bondits. I’m sure King and Spalding
was smiling at the proposal.
Can it ever be cconservative? Stacy will be our nnext governor. Georgia will be New York south.
That is true for most, if not all the former slave states.
The talk in GA is that the elections are still being stolen.
Some people don’t want to accept the new abnormal is real
Warnock up by 10 points over Walker? Lmfao
What’d I tell ya? More massive cheating going on. If this weren’t politics, he couldn’t be elected as dog catcher. The man is on tilt.
What is politics if the elections are rigged? I don’t call that politics. Does the CCP engage in politics?
They are planning on cheating this November again so the polls are being slanted to discourage MAGA people from voting.
Well, as a reminder of how many are pro Trump, don’t forget the Trump Rally this July 9th. In Alaska.
https://www.rsbnetwork.com/
AND remember, East Coast time is 4 hours ahead of Alaska time!!!
That was a poll of Democrat Voters Only
They may not have even polled anyone. The new abnormal is real.
They can make up and will make up whatever they want.
That’s BULL! Go Herschel! You the man. If he loses, they cheated. Count on it.
A vote for Warnock is a vote for Biden and since nobody really supports Biden it would be impossible. Especially in GA. This isnt California yet.
Cheating big time I’ll bet. Warnock is evil.
Agreed. Spotless Virgin Kemp refused all requests for cooperation from D’Souza’s “2000 Mules” production team. Kemp also to date is refusing to cooperate with folks challenging the use of drop boxes this coming November. The more things change ….
Kemp and Rottenburg got guarantees and kickbacks from Dominion for their approval of GA’s 2019 purchase of new election theft machines AFTER the damning TX report was published showing how they could easily be misused in 2018
Amen
Ya think?
The GOP (and elsewhere) is a participant in election theft – which explains why the GOP has done NOTHING since 2020 to deconstruct the election fraud infrastructure, all the while pretending that the 2020 steal didn’t happen.
https://www.trevorloudon.com/2022/01/deductive-reasoning-the-gop-was-in-on-the-steal/
https://www.trevorloudon.com/2022/01/deductive-reasoning-who-actually-controls-the-gop/
The election fraud machinery serves the Uniparty (and the WEF/ CCP that controls them). It is designed to protect their candidates while maintaining an illusion that there are competing political parties, who “win some, lose some.”
Yes, and it’s not going to stop with GA either. We’re in for massive cheating in every state if we’re not on the ball. This is why people need to show some form of ID before they vote IN PERSON. No mail-in ballots should be allowed at all. That’s what blew the last election out of the water. Those secret basement meetings of piglosi shoooomer and schiffty proved worthwhile for them, didn’t they? We cannot EVER let that sort of crap happen again. Not right under our noses, anyway. If they want to plan a rigged election they can do it on their own time and their own dime, not yours and mine.
The talk outside GA is that GA elections are not even trying to be serious. Candidates getting 0 votes in their own district? Or fewer votes than the number of their volunteers? GA is a joke, but should we laugh, or cry?
Elections in Ga were stolen in nov, 2020 and January 2021.
…and in Jun 2022
Wayyyyyyy before that. They’ve just got it perfected.
One example being past CEOs of Dekalb County. Know essentially
little to no one that actually voted for some of the old white ones that
got the ruination chain going, ie Manuel Maloof, Liane Levetan.
The county was wayyyy Republican in many areas back then, and they
managed to get in, nevertheless.
Amen. See Bill Lee of Tennessee.
It’s true. Folks are moving to red states. Georgia is one. I was and still am a real estate broker in GA. I retired several years ago. Just about to unretire! We got cheated but we coming back. We are good folks. Atlanta not good and most of big cities, but the rural countries gonna do good. You know why? We have good law enforcement and good schools. We are very conservative. You a liberal, don’t come here
I’m from Ohio. Yes, Dewine was one of the first to go the lockdown route (at the behest of that insufferable Amy Acton), but I don’t think it was out of malice. His power was revoked by the state legislature to enact emergency measures like masks partway through. Since then, he’s actually done a lot of good including constitutional carry, etc…
With the exception of Ohio State, Ohio is actually a pretty decent place.
“The conservative American Legislative Exchange Council’s first-ever rating of the nation’s governors is not kind to Ohio’s Mike DeWine.
The organization rated the Republican DeWine 35th among governors — behind nine Democrats — on measures valuing low taxation, restrained state spending, right-to-work laws, school choice, low welfare spending and more than a dozen other factors. “
https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/politics/government/2020/10/20/ohios-mike-dewine-ranks-35th-gubernatorial-ratings-conservative-lawmakers-group/3710291001/
Interesting, but from back in 2020. He’s improved since and a lot of it might be the fear of alienating the base after being checked by the legislature.
Columbus has turned DEM in the past 40 years: RINOS – led by Gubblenor Dewine – are in control of too much.
Nevertheless, we see more and more Illinois and Pennsylvania cars in some cities, and they are not tourists.
We’re part of those statistics. Escaped from NYC to OH last year. NYCs response certainly played a role, particularly the politically motivated targeting of my specific community. That said my wife and I were looking to get out for some time: a family inflection point made that possible.
From my observations, Ohio is an interesting state. Unlike NY (and CA etc.), the major metros don’t have an iron grip on state politics. So while they have just enough sway to keep a solid America First candidate from the governors seat, the state legislature remains pretty red and keeps the executive in check.
My .02
Looking back, at the times we did elect a Democrat governor (Celeste, Strickland), they’ve generally not been over the top. Strickland got in because of the whole coin gate scandal and lasted a single term. Kasich, for all the bad on him now, was not a bad governor at all, relatively speaking.
Ohio has a lot of staunchly red “big” small towns that offset things.
I don’t think the Covid response by government was the specific cause of movement, but it may have been the final straw in a very long chain of abuses leading to a decision.
In my experience, it was the final straw for those still living here in Kali.
That’s true for many living in Kali. My relatives are all moving away from there, many of them coming to my state where we have sensible *for the most part* politicians. We need to quickly dump john thune, however. He’s been in there collecting a check for a long time and has never done anything good for my state. Not. One. Thing. Mike Rounds is ok but noting special. Dusty Johnson needs to shit or get off the pot. He never knows where he stands, he’s like a dishrag.
So sorry Taffy Howard didn’t unseat him!
One interesting marker is to look up the Uhaul rental rates moving away or moving to a blue state like California. Mind blowing.
I agree.
Full timer on the road who worked 2019-2021 seasonally in Flathead Valley region of MT.
The migration had begun in ’19 and didn’t escalate until ’21 it seemed. In ’21 most who were going to sell homes or land had done so. Many were holding onto acreage and had to start fighting people who were squatting on it.
Initially influx from many places around the country. At the end, Money running from CA,OR, WA. But it seemed these were not conservatives based upon behavior in the retail environment.
A side note: in talking with the early arrivals, they saw the “writing on the wall” and were getting to safety ahead of the demise.
All over the intermountain region the migration is continuing. In WY currently and it is only beginning here. Locals already have road signs saying “Don’t CA my Cody” and “Don’t Colorado my Cody.”
Can’t see WY locals giving much room to incoming except maybe in the southern section of the state. They remind me of Real America/ Americans – like the historic Yankees.
Also seems people have chosen their location and are now hunkering down and preparing for incoming demise.
jmo
Therefore there should be a housing surplus in the blue regions?
It never happens. Foreign people and money come in and prop up the real estate.
Yep, foreigners – – that’s who’s buying property in my area. Hell, they’re the only ones who have any money. Mind you, it’s our money – yours and mine. I’m just waiting for biden the braindead to pull the plug on Social Security. Oh it’ll happen, just wait. He’ll need that money for some lunatic cause.
And they want everyone’s 401K – after all, what do you need that for if the government provides everything?
They’re filling them up with “migrants.”
there isn’t enough as it is (why a lot of home prices are artificially high)
Blue state citizens will bring their voting habits and beliefs with them. They will destroy red states like they did to blue states then they will move on. Move, Destroy, Repeat.
Snap out of it.
You might be right, and you might be wrong.
IF someone is motivated enough to move based on Blue State Blues, then maybe they will have learned something.
And it is a mix of people and reasons that they leave.. There are those who believed that their blue state could be made better if they only keep fighting, and when the writing was finally on the wall (to them), they left. In the case of my HS friends, for the last 10-15 years those still in Kali always had a spouse that ‘had to stay’ in Kali for some reason. For them, the lockdowns were everything, “Why spend stupid money to ‘live’ somewhere where you can’t take advantage of the alleged benefits of ‘living’ there?” The people I’m talking about are very Conservative, but that also didn’t want to be forced out.
Like us. We are native Californians and now we are forced to move because our state has been destroyed.
i empathize with your friends- why should I have to move just because everyone else is brain dead?! it feels like cowardice.
Yup, we’ve been fighting for the state since the first hints of liberal lunacy. Much like what is happening with the rest of the country, Kali’s downfall started with the GOP all being RINOs (before that was even a term). They weren’t cowards they were, and are, collaborators.
No, we don’t. I live in the very blue state of New Yuck. The big cities are all vomit inducing liberals. The rest of the state is as red as Texas. I’d move out tomorrow if a single member of my family said they were done and moving on. I’d settle in West Virginia or Kentucky. Our housing market has few available homes because they are quickly sold to money bag liberals trying to escape from New York City. For YEARS all the locals have felt like we are not represented in Albany or they just have stealing in the voting booth down to a science.
Sadly, I fear that you are correct… I was just reading an article about the Uber Leftist Governor of Washington, who has STILL not relinquished his emergency power and is refusing to lower the gas tax, which is one of the highest in the country.
One of the first people to comment on the story was a former Washington resident who now lives in Mesa, Arizona. She went on and on about how the increase in gas prices has NOTHING to do with politicians but is solely because of greedy oil companies.
How many people like that are moving to formerly red states where they will now vote for the very people who ruined the blue states that they just left? Quite a few unfortunately, IMHO…
Exactly why I dubbed this phenomena the Dumbasspora.
I’m in Washington. King Inslee is pushing high gas prices to force people into buying EVs. By 2030 ALL new vehicles being sold in Washington will be electric, not gas.
I’ve lived in Washington my entire life and, let’s just say, the intelligence level of the Governors has gone down significantly with each new cycle…
No one in the legislature will reign in our insane dictator and no one in the media will report the truth about what he’s trying to do, unfortunately!
He wants all of us eating bugs and driving electric vehicles, whilst he continues to use the State Patrol Learjet to take him from one side of the state to the other, where he will continue to be ferried about in gas guzzling SUVs, guarded by a Cadre of well armed men!
Ditto CA. You can’t even build a home with gas anymore. If your current home is destroyed by fire and you need to rebuild you will need to install all electric appliances etc. instead of the gas you had; per my insurance agent. 🤬🤮. Kali sucks.
Sounds like Europe – Germany. They will be in serious trouble this winter because of that type of house design. The state can control their power allotment.
I was born in the state of Washington and I moved back there in 2008. I moved then to Florida in late 2015. Arizona is like Florida is to New York. A great many retirees spend half the year in Arizona and half in Washington, so to me it would be natural for someone to move to Arizona, especially if they already had a house there and were familiar with a community that they like but they are still liberals. I wouldn’t expect them to change their politics. Moving to Florida from Washington state would be different, in my opinion.
They are like the Borg. Resistance is Futile.
There are a lot of us in blue states who keep thinking how nice it would be not to have to explain common sense to our neighbors over and over! But there are also a few of us that feel like, if the war comes across our front yards, well, it makes it really easy to travel to the front lines where the battle is, and it is time to fight. (Not a hot war, but a very real war, as we see friends and family dying.)
Ha ha ha…. Not many of my neighbors speak English these days… mostly some Asian language.
Many that are leaving the blue states are NOT blue people at all. Like me, for instance. I am leaving Cali, going to a red state, and if I bring my voting habits and beliefs with me, it sure as hell won’t turn the state blue.
Amen.
not all of us. but i agree, some are simply seeking to better their own situation, instead of seeking a place where THEY can contribute fruitfully.
“If they are too big to fail, make them smaller.” – George P. Shultz
Here is an article from Doomberg about blowback in Germany regarding WEF decisions around the Ukrainian war:
https://doomberg.substack.com/p/moribund-verbund
Politics was the #1 reason for me and along with the rest of the family we’ve never been treated better. Moving from Taxachusetts to the shore just north of Myrtle beach was like leaving hell and making new conservative friends. Trump signs still abound here. F j B.
Government officials ginning up bad feelings towards the unvaccinated most definitely spurred my family back to the greener pastures of a red state.
A good trend, that many Eyeores will decry.
I’ve been watching the (quite logical) exodus of my High School friends from Kali, with the first leaving in the early 1990s. The rate of leaving has ebbed and flowed over the intervening decades, until by around 2010-2012, I thought that everyone who could get their spouse to leave had already left.
‘Coupvid’ has taken 3 more friends (and their families) who I never expected to leave – and another 2 families are working on an exit strategy.
That’s a ~40% of the most hardcore stuck in Kali people that I know. The ones that are left at this point are trapped here by their professions, or are married to crazy people.
I am exiting Kommiefornia in three weeks. 14 years of this liberal insanity is enough.
Congratulations, and good luck! Where are you going? Most of my friends are spread across the country.
I was ready to leave in 1989, when the direction the state was going become clear to me.
Best of luck, Will. Smart move, smart man who has seen around corners. As bad as California is, this time will probably be looked back on as a zenith as the years and the further degradation into an irrdeemable hellhole proceed apace.
my family moved there when I was 12….I had almost 50 years with CA as the state of records….left in 2020 during the plandemic
I think it’s completely disingenuous to state that it is only because remote workers are leaving. I’m so close to the NYC border and every week they ratchet up the pressure again with the shots. Assume you were a bumbling person in NYC and your office said they required the shots to go to the office. Maybe you thought, erm, I’m not keen on it but ok. Then it happens to your spouse. Then you need a vax pass to enter a restaurant. Then they start offering your kids the shots. Well, I think something cataclysmic is going to happen with Mayor Adams REQUIRING the jabs for kids to attend public school. With each new additional change, people are getting stressed. People don’t like change, and particularly not a lot of it at one time. So now run in parallel that the school standards have been lowered across the board, CRT and LGBTQ curriculum is de rigeur, AND they will be raising prices on everything. The large city of NYC produces nothing you can eat, and ,like on an island, you rely on everything being shipped in. Prices are sky high and nothing seems to be stabilizing. In fact, the opposite, it seems to be getting more and more extreme. I don’t like living this close to the border because it is a powder keg waiting to go off. People are driving erratically, road rage is at an all time high and tempers are out fo control. And we are in the summer. What will the winter bring when food prices are even higher and the cost os heating your home is maybe unaffordable?? When EBT cards no longer cover the costs of many…
On a side note, crime here is going WAY up, all sorts of weird stuff is going on, including one guy who takes his kids to random pools in Stamford- private home pools- where he doesn’t know the inhabitants! Red flags all around…
Retired Magistrate here: I live in Delaware County, Ohio. DeWine is our dictator governor. However, our legislature took a lot of covid power away from him which helped a lot.
When DeWine stated that he was going to lock down Ohio again (I believe it was sometime in early 2021) our County Commissioners stated “No”; businesses would be open in Delaware County, Ohio. It was around that time that our legislature said enough and passed veto proof legislation that diminished DeWine and the Health Director’s power with regard to covid.
Went out to lunch today; we eat in the car, and judging by car and truck traffic, everything is normal: yes, normal the way it used to be before covid. Businesses are begging people to come to work at really good wages (they have to offer good wages due to inflation) and people are out shopping. We live near the Columbus Zoo water park and it has been packed. I can’t speak for other parts of Ohio; however, most of Ohio is red. It is just the big cities that are blue and they are not fairing as well.
It really does depend on what State, County and township you live in and what you do to make your community a better place to live.
I’m hoping Ohio gets more JD Vance types and fewer DeWine types of elected officials (assuming Vance does what he says he’s going to).
I can only go by my personal experience. We have a second home at the Lake of the Ozarks and there was a dramatic influx here during the pandemic. People came from Illinois to escape the lockdown as well as from St. Louis, which had some strong restrictions. Places were snapped up. People who had vacation homes moved here. After the CNN report about the lack of restrictions at the bars and restaurants during that first summer it became even crazier.
I remember that. And they were circulating pics on social media and in the national media of large gatherings at the Lake and how they were super spreader events, more restrictions needed, etc.
Yes, lots of visitors came and snapped up rental places. I don’t know if cases were traced back to the summer season here. One funny note — the mayor of Kansas City showed up here without a mask while partying. His city had some really strict lockdowns at the time.
I remember texting with a person who lived outside Philadelphia. She had not had her hair done, gone shopping or had lunch out in eight months. I had done all those things the previous day. She also had not seen her grandchildren because if they visited they would not be allowed back in their school. So sad.
The KC mayor is horrible. Became a mask nazi. Put in curfews. Then organized a secret meeting in the middle of the night to defund the police.
The good news is Missouri passed a great voter integrity law this year.
Yes, my sister-in-law says he is terrible, but her children are liberal. I have a friend at Children’s Mercy who really went along with every mandate. She said Dr. Fauci is a god. Sigh.
Many office jobs in Chicago are advertising, publishing, most can be work from home. They closed these offices in early 2020, the majority will never return. The abandonment of office space downtown accelerated the criminals taking it over, cementing that cities demise. My daughter moved for a job at a physical office, summer 2019, along came covid they closed the office, she works from home and never returned to an office. Now I hope she gets out of that city although she is north of downtown, which is marginally less dangerous.
Like I’ve told my wife, even though I can’t stand politicians, if we get a Democrat Governor is AZ, we are outta here!
ducey seems pretty demmy to me…
He was part of the coup, too. The similarities between GA and AZ are hard to ignore. Both are Red states, but both had weak, corrupt, RINO Governors (who also selected weak Senators that were out of step with the electorate), corrupt AGs and Secretaries of State. Both allowed fraudulent voting, and have worked to cover it up. The courts and the justice system seem better in AZ (than in GA) and more people in their state legislature seem to be willing to fight it. But a lot more similarity than one would expect.
Sadly Texas has seen an influx (mostly CA, some NY) , my county/city went from 80/20 Repub/Dem to about 60/40 Dem/Repub. We have the disgusting gender/drag queen stuff happening and this is in the Round Rock/Leander/CP area.
Housing prices were off the roof last year, but slowing down now.
We still have plenty of employment issues, esp restaurants. Not sure where all those workers went. I know from conversations, employers (Apple, State workers, etc.) are having a hard time getting people to come back to work. They like ‘work from home’.
A lot of that is the people Texans have been electing – assuming that Texas elections are legit (which I questioned after Abbott won his primary so easily). Don’t take my word for it. I get the Texas Minute and those people track all the RINOs that are in power in the Texas legislature. A lot of the problems in TX started a decade or more ago.
I follow Texas elections closely because 1) I’ve wanted ot move there and 2) if we lose Texas, we’ve lost America. 🙂
Agreed. We have lots of RINOS..never liked Abbott and didn’t vote for him in the primaries. Texas has been purple, our saving grace might be the Hispanics, cause they hate all this racism/gender, etc. crap.
Unfortunately , people hate change, including voting for someone new. In the end, pretty much everyone in the voting booth gives up and votes the same ole person back in office.
Do you think that Abbott’s primary win was real? I don’t live there but my two friends who do said that turnout was pretty high where they live (San Antonio) and yet the turnout numbers seemed really low, and Abbott beat the magic 50% to move on which seemed odd for a guy who’d delivered some serious lockdowns (no matter what he claims) and destroyed TX power (one of the previous miracles of that great state). I have to admit that the first thing I thought after seeing the numbers and the alleged turnout was did they ‘lose’ ballots that didn’t have Abbott on them?
Unfortunately, many of them will move down here and continue to vote Democrat, which will ruin it for the rest of us.
That is what happened in Kali.
People always come in and say, “this great, if only we…”
Right, they never think that it is great because of the ideology of the locals that created the “goodness” they like.
They always think they have to fix what is not broken – like they did in their previous residence.
The current mayor of NYC said he had been in the office. He said he rode the subway and didn’t realize how bad NYC had gotten. He certainly is the Helen Keller of all mayors. Situational awareness he gets a big fat F. Basic human observation he gets a big fat F.
I bet all the blue state leaders from Governor all the way down to Deputy Assistant to Weekend Dogcatcher will never admit what the NYC mayor admitted. He was just too dumb and didn’t know the gravity of what he said.
Those remaining in the blue states will likely never comprehend individual liberty.
Those leaving might threaten individual liberty if the don’t resolve their rectal-cranial symmetry.
But Gavin Newsom can spend how many thousand taxpayer $$$ to run a TV ad in Florida, encouraging folks there to move to California to “enjoy the freedom” in his state. I’d ask how stupid can he be, but why bother.
Maybe the folks from Broward County will move to Cali! LOL They can buy my house; it’s going on the market in a week or so.
… Food for thought…
I believe Bezos was trying to diversify his businesses so the different ethnicities would not unite to form a Union, very similar, if not spot on, to what is happening around the country. In the end, Bezos is loosing as will the the states.
When government reaches into your pockets, everyone is affected. That’s how people unite and that’s why all the shiny objects surround us daily.
This is why Newsom is begging people to move back to CA from FL. He is such a loser. He’d be better off if he just kept his mouth shut and stayed away from the cameras.
Just wait until he is president! Gag! But you know it is coming.
He will be as popular as Kamala!
I live in CA and it’s is stunningly beautiful. I lived in Fl while in the military and you couldn’t pay be $1M to move back there. I’ve lived in FL, NC, OR, IA, WI, VA, MI, and IN and those states are just too damn boring.
On the other hand, my co-workers won’t come back to the office and I have to do 2.5 times my normal workload.
Anyway, that is my testimonial.
An 80″ flat screen showing nature videos can be stunningly beautiful, on the wall of a prison cell.
Soylent Green.
that is essentially every studio apartment in the bay area. pay 4k a month to live in a coffin.
Well, enjoy your California lifestyle while we enjoy our boring, healthy, happy Florida lifestyle.
Came down here 51 years ago on our honeymoon from NY and never returned to the job/tax nightmare controlled by the Albany psychorobots.
Love the laid back, sunshine, friendly, free state. And we’ve traveled and camped in 44 of the 50 states…there are 11 states I wouldn’t send a Fauci experimental rodent to to be tortured. But the rest…awesome. This is a beautiful country…and each state has that special ingredient that when blended with the rest, produces this awesome country.
And then you have those who are just so far destroyed, they should just be scraped into the garbage bag and sent out with tomorrow’s trash.
IMHO, escape while you can. And wherever you land, make a positive, common sense difference our founders would be proud of.
Note Colorado turning blue:
CO has been purple most of my life. It only started to be 100% blue after voting by mail became the process.
And yes, I have friends in CO who have watched it happen.
Yes, I live on the Front Range, and most, even D’s talk about the popularity of GovPolis and how he saved so many lives during the virus.
Was it ever wonderful to hear and see the boos when he took the podium at the Cup winning Avs parade last week!
Talk is his popularity will take him to POTUS candidacy.
Huh?
Garbageville / Riot-town is some kind of weird outlier I guess. The Portland-Vancouver area has experienced a huge demand for housing during Covidiocy / Burn Loot Murder. There definitely was an exodus out, but also a big incoming.
We moved farther north a year ago as far as we could reasonably still commute, to a neighborhood that could not get Section’d 8 multi-trashed. I thought for sure everyone would flee Portland for Vancouver, but the influx is not really that.
There was pent-up demand for live-in children moving out. And there’s been a bunch from Cali-forlorn. It’s baffling to me why anyone would want to move here though if they don’t have to. There are tents and garbage and graffiti and murders and theft. It is very unwise to go to downtown Portland anymore.
So this is a blue bordering purple area that people are moving in to.
Ignorant fools I guess. But it’s caused an about 25% house value increase in our area/demographic since we moved in, but that is beginning to turn around with the mortgage interest rate increase, maybe a 5% decrease in the past month.
Keeping fingers crossed we can last 10 more years.
I own some office REITs (Real Estate Investment Trust) where the REIT company builds/owns/develops large office buildings particular for a specific company (IBM, Microsoft, et al). At the beginning of the ‘pandemic’, all the talk was that “worker disconnect from the office” was the new norm, never to come back again as employers found that (where possible) it was cheaper (less rent space) to have employees work from home. Productivity would increase due to no drive time, schmoozing at the water fountain, etc. I never believed it. And there is no indication, none, that these companies have suffered any loss. After a year into the ‘work at home’ craze, you began to read of CEO’s clamoring to get their employees back into the office…..”Productivity.” Ya, who would have thought, what with the dog, and the neighbor, and the TV and refrigerator, …………
I live in Illinois and I abhorred the tyranny loving, liberty loathing covid mandates that were imposed by Governor Pritzker and have considered moving out of the state because of them and other onerous government abuses in Illinois. I don’t ever want to live under such tyranny again.
With that said, it’s important to keep in mind that where one lives within a state is also important, sometimes even more important, than whether one lives in a red or blue state. Sometimes, red areas of blue states have more liberty than blue areas of red states.
For example, I live in red Madison County, IL which never enforced Pritzker’s lockdown at the county level. Most of the municipalities in Madison County eventually followed the county’s lead in not enforcing Pritzker’s mandates.
Right across the Mississippi River from Madison County is the red state of Missouri, including the blue jurisdictions of St. Louis City and County. There was a point during the “pandemic” where the restaurants in blue St. Louis County where locked down, but the restaurants in nearby red Madison County, IL were open.
Even now, the public buses in St. Louis City and County require masks, but the ones in nearby Madison County do not. Even the buses in nearby blue St. Clair County, IL don’t require masks.
The red areas of so-called blue states really need to devise a way to separate themselves from the blue states that they find themselves in. Vast conservatives regions in blue states shouldn’t be subjected to the liberal tyranny and incompetence of one or a few large liberal population centers in their states.
I live in Belknap County New Hampshire. The only red county left. Hanging tough though.
Oh my goodness! The most beautiful area! We are from Texas and have visited your area twice, the most recent being last fall. Hit the peak of the foliage and were in heaven! It would be worth “hanging tough” in that part of the world!👍🏻🇺🇸
Many of the people that have recently moved to my state from a blue state are conservative in nature. They get their plates changed out in quick order, and generally like to be left alone. Unfortunately we also have some karens that as soon as they get settled, they run for minor offices, or get on boards to make their presence felt.
We have what are called “frontier” republicans who are worse than RINOs. They are true dims, and lie about their political affiliation in order to get elected here. Dims have little chance of getting elected here, so in desperation, they lie.
https://www.frontierrepublicans.com/
Is Liz Cheney the secret leader of your Frontier Republicans group? If she isn’t, she oughta be.
Here in commie Oregon I would say 70% of movers were motivated by Covid madness. This based on first hand talks with folks.
Yes, my sister left Oregon the end of last year and that is what did it. Moved to Oklahoma.
They better vote conservative. If not, get out.
Not such a good thing if it is liberals moving to red states to keep voting the same failed liberal policies that destroyed where they moved from.
In my experience, two of my adult children and their families moved OUT of CA last year, one family moved to TX and the other to TN. Yes, the lockdowns played a role, but moreso was the public education system, which has become perverted. They feared for their small children and had taken to homeschooling. One family continues to homeschool due to the loss of trust and faith in public education altogether. The other family put their children in private Christian schools. The other big reason besides the lockdowns, high taxes, and politics, was CRIME. It’s not safe to traverse CA freeways any longer, nor is it safe to go to a mall to shop, or any large gathering for that matter. CA has bled and is still bleeding law enforcement officers. They don’t have the coverage any more to respond to 911. As well, the CA District Attorneys turn criminals loose the next day. It’s just not safe there any more. Add to that the liberal looney BLM/Antifa types who like to shut down freeways and invade private neighborhoods etc etc etc.
The cartels are running most of CA. And you can see why Newsom wants to be an abortion refuge. He’s got to find some way to import business back into the state. I can bet you dollars to donuts the guy was not re-elected. Everyone, pretty much, hates the guy. They have plenty of “mules” for ballots in CA.
Newsom cheated for sure. So many life long Democrats flipped here in Cali and voted Trump and the Republican ticket. I know lots of them.
Same here. Even the lefties don’t believe he ‘won’ the recall by more than he ‘won’ his original election – and now Kali is vote by mail forever.
I and my family left CA in 2005. While living in CA, we had to send our kids to private schools, I was assaulted, robbed, had a car run into our house, had a parked car totaled when a high driver plowed into it, was threatened by gang members. As a conservative professor, I was threatened by my Dean for failing a black female despite the fact that she deserved the F. My department chair subsequently gave me terrible teaching assignments. Housing was expensive. It cost a lot to live in CA and the benefits were nonexistent.
We love our new home in Texas, but the schools here are indoctrinating pupils in critical race theory. My daughter is lost to it. Colleges are also leftist indoctrination centers.
I moved out of Illinois. I own my own investment firm. My wife quit her job and is starting a new career from scratch. It’s because Illinois is a cesspool of corruption, incompetence, and mismanagement. Chicago runs the state. Been there lately? Killings right outside the loop and lakefront, routinely.
It took a month to get a discharge letter from IL dept of insurance. Uploaded it to FL website on a Thursday at 3, was licensed in FL by noon Friday.
I’ll take the short term financial setback for the long term gain and quality of life.
I don’t know, but I have a feeling the leftists want to invade Red States to take over all of the United States. I have seen too many comments here about Idaho and Nebraska areas starting to turn. Ohio has always been a swing state but Columbus used to be also a swing city, not anymore.
I would add social problems caused by democrat policy (antifa, homelessness, etc.) as the icing on top of the covid cake of reasons to move.
We want to go where we are free and safe.
I’m sure politics is a big factor in why some choose to move, but that hasn’t been my experience. For me the main motivating factor to move has ALWAYS been work opportunities. The next reason down the list was proximity to my extended family. Then came considerations like availability of cultural activities I enjoy (I attend and participate in many kinds of music festivals). I prefer to be near water since I kayak and sail. Then it’s things like general climate history of where I’m considering moving.. How states perform politically and administratively might be tenth priority down the list.
So I moved from the red state I grew up and was educated in (Iowa), to two of the bluest states (CA, then WA). Even though the politics has given me a permanent “eye roll” condition, in compensation I’ve always had wonderful, fulfilling work, an ability to easily visit my siblings and their families, proximity to music of all varieties and access to the ocean. I got most of what I was really seeking to achieve in life, and I accepted that you can’t win ‘em all.
Back in 2016, my stepson went to California on a IT contract and my advice was… “Do your job, find the cheapest place to rent, do NOT live there, when you’re contract is up, get out and get back home because things are going to get really bad there and those that can get out will, those that cannot, are going to get screwed.”
He followed my advice and is living in AZ working a very fine job.
Trouble has been brewing for a very long time, we where all to busy and comfortable to do anything we saw as big trouble coming down the pike. Someday down the road, yes it will blow-up. Someday is now!
The Flu scamdemic, attacks on a sitting President because he says bad thing (we all know it was because he said, America First), corrupt election (s) leading to a demented prez and now everything sky rocketing to the moon, phony war adding to the corruption long on going in Ukraine, self-centered congress lost in a world of mememe.
The move from the Blue to the Red will accelerate. Two countries, east coast/west coast commie tyrants vs the middle We The People, who want the country people died for, freedom and liberty. We will have to fight!
What a laugh! Moved FROM California for better weather? To where?
The contortions these Globalists go through to NOT blame politics and ideology for people leaving blue states for red is astounding!
That said, this has been going on for decades. People fleeing the “Nawth” is what turned Red VA Blue. They haven’t figured out their votes is what destroyed their states.
My experience is Florida is getting crowded. This is unsustainable.
I came across 2 people about my age (62) this past weekend that are giving serious consideration to getting out of NYS. And I don’t get out much, or meet too many people.
Only reservation is the high cost of a replacement home.
ain’t gonna matter when the blue states re-fill themselves with “migrants.”
My very good friend and golf buddy moved from NYC in June, 2020 to south Florida. He had a lobbying business repping several issues for a variety of clients at the NY legislature so he traveled to NY occasionally, which grew old quickly. While here he also began working with local companies to lobby city governments. As a result of that work he is now a full-time employee of one of the nearby cities to Miami and is on a track to become a deputy city manager. A success story if I ever heard one.
Political preference(freedom v govt) has been the main driver from MN.
Leave a State that they made their Utopia, go to the thriving State and vote the same again. The thought is that the new Utopia could be made so much better if only Democrats were in charge.
My experience in the Peoples Republic of IL sent me to the Arrive Alive state, northern end of South Florida.
The pandemic expedited our emigration plans from the SF Bay Area.
the blatant disregard for human life both before the pandemic (“homelessness”, sanctuary cities, ridiculous spending, etc) and during the pandemic, by our ‘elected’ officials didn’t surprise us. It only confirmed what we suspected.
the biggest shock was the number of fellow citizens who either went along to get along or advocated for even more of the ineffective draconian bullshit. the way neighbors, good friends and sadly family suddenly turned on us for, at times, simply not being in total agreement with them. simply announcing we were moving to another state was enough of a “clue” for some folks…
knowing that we were living as a very small (and unwelcome) minority, and that most of our social network professed to be extremely unsympathetic with our situation to our faces (albeit, we aren’t “out” to everyone, it’s just not worth the hassle), we were lucky to escape a few months ago.
and i agree with Sundance, it’s much more than quality of life that is motivating people.
I still travel to the Bay monthly.
Its getting worse.
Recently, my long time friend and customer was gunned down
in Oakland, in front of his son.
He was a restauranteer and promoter.
Very popular social presence in the neighborhood.
I’ve decided not to have anything to do with Oakland since that happened.
I always new that Oakland was filled with threats, but it had an edge I enjoyed
and let’s face it; people in Oakland love their shoes.
But Jun’s murder was a wake up call.
Screw the Bay Area
I would attribute 85% or more of the migration to the lockdowns. The WSJ knows it too but it is trying to say so in a way palatable to the left.