Turkey as a member of NATO has always been a thorny and multi-layered geopolitical issue. In the latest chapter of the dynamic, Turkish President Recep Erdogan, a man with visions of his own grandiose importance as the leader of the next Ottoman empire, has said Sweden and Finland do not warrant entry into NATO because they have held positions adverse to the interests of Erdogan and the Muslim Brotherhood.
As the entry point from the middle east into Europe, Erdogan has long leveraged his gatekeeper status to create an oversized influence of power. When the EU formally declared the era of multiculturalism was failing 2012, and Islamic extremists were carrying out terrorism attacks all over the NATO alliance, Erdogan leveraged his ability to open the floodgates from Syria to gain additional financial benefits.
On one hand, when Turkey shot down a Russian fighter jet in northern Syria, Erdogan hid behind the skirt of NATO seeking protection from Russian retaliation. On the other hand, when the U.S. refused to give Turkey missile defense systems, Erdogan buried the hatchet with Putin and purchased Russian missile defense systems. President Erdogan plays all sides in advancing his interests.
In the latest development, what Joe Manchin is to the leftist agenda of Joe Biden, Erdogan is playing that role toward the globalist agenda of NATO. The big picture behind Erdogan’s priorities is always connected to the agenda of the Brotherhood.
ISTANBUL (Reuters) -Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan said on Monday that Swedish and Finnish delegations should not bother coming to Ankara to convince it to approve their NATO bid.
Sweden’s government has formally decided to apply for NATO membership, Prime Minister Magdalena Andersson said on Monday, a day after Finnish President Sauli Niinisto confirmed that Helsinki will also apply for membership.
Turkey surprised its NATO allies last week by saying it would not view their applications positively, mainly citing their history of hosting members of groups Ankara deems terrorists.
In a news conference on Monday, Erdogan repeated that Turkey would not approve their bids to join NATO, calling Sweden a “hatchery” for terrorist organisations, and adding it had terrorists in its parliament.
[…] NATO and the United States said they were confident Turkey would not hold up membership of Finland and Sweden.
Diplomats said Erdogan would be under pressure to yield as Finland and Sweden would greatly strengthen NATO in the Baltic Sea.
Erdogan’s spokesman said on Saturday that Turkey has not shut the door to Sweden and Finland joining NATO but wants negotiations and a clampdown on what it sees as terrorist activities. (read more)
Recep Erdogan can see the global cleaving underway, and he will position himself to use the geopolitical agenda of the western alliance to build out his continued quest to recreate a new Ottoman empire. That’s his legacy agenda.
President Erdogan is sketchy and cunning…
He’s an insecure dictator. He even banned memes comparing him to Gollum.
Like President Xi being caricatured as Winnie the Pooh
I like how NATO is being decided by a Muslim country and a Chinese puppet administrator Bidan
yay European sovereignty
Now Dr. Oz Wants His Senate Race Opponent Barred From the Race for Thought Crime
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/robert-spencer/2022/05/16/now-dr-oz-wants-his-senate-race-opponent-barred-from-the-race-for-thoughtcrime-n1598169
“Oz has already criticized his principal opponent, Kathy Barnette, for “Islamophobia,” a made-up word designed to inhibit criticism of jihad violence and Sharia oppression, and one that is in common usage among Leftists but rarer among patriots. On Saturday, however, Oz went even farther, charging that Barnette should actually be banned from running for the Senate, and presumably for anything else, because she doesn’t have a sufficiently positive view of Islam.”
BTW, Mohammad, all Muslim’s “Perfect Man” married a 5 year old when he was in his 50’s.
Thought it was 11, Alisha if my rememberer is firing on most cylinders.
Aisha, married at six, consummated at nine.
Good grief.
He must be getting some bad news on internal polling
Did that guy just make this up about Oz? It certainly looks like it! Nobody would ever say that and Nobody with a brain would ever believe that Dr Oz said that!
“a sufficiently positive view of islam???” someone I dearly love, and friends spent years defending muslims’ rights to vote and worship in crappola countries as members of our Armed Forces.
They know first-hand what kind of view thay encountered. True, there are many muslims who are decent people, but they are deluded once they are in any kind of power, watch out! I give you Omar, the horrible, Somali squad member.
Change the NATO bylaws for admitting new members. Require approval by 90% of current members instead of a unanimous vote. Deflate Erdogan.
Better yet, abolish the obsolete NATO.
Turkey is the home of Magog Tubal Tugarmah Gomer, It is controlled by one of the fallen ones! Turkey’s future is written on the pages of the Bible. Erdogan is playing his part.
Erdogan just turned the Hagia Sophia back into a mosque. Finland’s top prosecutor has appealed a hate speech case against a conservative Lutheran bishop and an author for having quoted the Bible, and it appears the prosecutor may use the case to go after the Koran as well if the courts accept the appeal and there is a conviction. Finland is openly hostile to religion, and Erdogan is actively promoting Islam.
Spent last week in Missouri attending all the goings-on of a niece’s wedding.
That niece and her brother both hold dual citizenship status with the U.S. and Sweden. He lives and works in Sweden, she lives and works in the U.S., and they both speak multiple languages.
Last time we spoke about what was going on with the hoard of immigrants flooding into Sweden my nephew blew it off. He said the immigrants were all being housed in northern Sweden, and no one was having a problem with them.
Last week he spoke much differently.
He said Sweden has now locked down their borders. He said the hoard housed in northern Sweden made their way south to the big cities where all the people live (which is what every thoughtful, sane individual said would happen), and things have gotten really ugly.
Yeah, the rape of a few friends will make you see things differently. . .
The Obama of the Ottomans ….
To bad that coup didn’t work out, like the one they did here.
The lines/sides are clearly being drawn. And in these times, one sees clearly where others stand.
Russia invaded Ukraine for fear of NATO being on its border. Now Finland, with 850 miles of common border with Russia (and not a good history with Germany vs Russia in WW2) is applying for NATO? Finland has done what Ukraine did not.
Finland applying for NATO status is bigger than Russian invasion of Ukraine. And will have much more severe consequences.
Once again the desire to escalate tensions with Russia far outweigh any concerns to de-escalate? Why?
Finland joining NATO is less of an issue for Russia than Ukraine joining NATO would be. You see, Russia has more interests in Ukraine like their gas pipelines going through Ukraine to Europe. There are for Russia no such material interests to defend and control in Finland. NATO Ukraine would be a threat to the Russian warm water port Novorussisk, especially if Ukraine took back Crimea with the Sevastopol naval base. Russia’s old naval base in NATO hands would be a security threat to Russia. It would upset the power balance in the Black Sea if the US could park its aircraft carriers at Russia’s doorsteps in Russia’s old base.
Finland joining NATO would bring NATO to one more border along Russia, but it wouldn’t change much in the current geopolitical situation. NATO wouldn’t be much closer to St. Petersburg than it already is as Estonia is in NATO. In the north Russia already shares a border with NATO member Norway so Finland wouldn’t be much closer to the Russian naval bases in the Arctic either. Norway already is closer.
Russia wouldn’t be able to take over Finland even without NATO as Finland has obligatory military service for men and a voluntary service option for women. Virtually all Finnish men are trained as reservist soldiers. The Finnish defense forces are relatively well equipped and there is high quality military equipment produced in Finland. Rifles, ammo, armored vehicles are produced by Finnish companies in Finland. Russia wouldn’t be able to stop Finland from getting weapons as they lack any possibility to block Finland’s access to imports and in the worst case, Finns will make some themselves anyway.
Finns are inventive and know how to improvise as well as use geography for their advantage. Finland is not easy to attack from the east like Soviet Union learned in Winter War and Continuation War. Too many forests and hills and rivers and lakes which work as natural defenses, and not many roads. The Russians know we still want Karelia back and if the Russians start fighting, we’ll start trying to take back what was ours. GenX’s like me and older Millennials had grandparents who fought in the wars against Soviet Union and some of us like me had grandparents who lost their homes in Karelia when the Russians took Karelia from us. That wound is still kind of fresh. Putin knows better than to poke us in that sore spot.
Finns are easygoing when not provoked and even when provoked, we are slow to boil over. But if you mess with us, we’re just about the nastiest problem you could bring upon yourself. Because if Russia managed to occupy Finland somehow, we’d just switch over to guerrilla mode. We were preparing weapons caches for guerrilla action under the noses of the Soviet control commission after the wars when Soviet Union was strong and we were poor and weak. Now Russia is poor and relatively weak, and although we’re not so rich either, we do have better resources for fighting this time. Russia knows we’re better for them as a semi-friendly neighbor than as an enemy.
I do think though that joining the obsolete paper tiger is useless for Finland as a defense against Russia. But I guess we have to do it to protect us from the wrath of US deep state until MAGA takes over and starts de-escalating things. CIA destroyed a promising deep sea submersible business for Finland in the 1980’s and I am convinced alphabet agencies were also involved in running Nokia phones to the ground. They didn’t want a non-American mobile OS ruling the market which they couldn’t spy on.
Mehmet Oz is a YUGE supporter of Erdogan and everything Turkish. Turkey should have been expelled from NATO years ago. As usual, no one had the cojones to begin the process.
Erdogan is a muslim; so is Oz. You think they don’t think the same and have the same “cultural” values???
Some basic tenants of the ‘peaceful’ religion of Islam include;
Why would anyone not of the Islamic faith have any reason to trust in any regard a follower of Islam? ‘Islamophobia’ is a made up term based on a false premise. ‘Phobia’ indicates a fear of something. Most people that take issue with those of the Islamic faith do not fear Islam’s followers. Most do not trust that followers of Islam will not adhere to tenants of Islamic doctrine and why should they?
Perhaps Nato must reconsider Turkey’s membership as Erdogan continues to be a total nut case like Russian Putin has become.