Fox News correspondent Steve Harrigan returns from Ukraine with a somber message about the situation and likely future. Harrigan notes that Russian victory in Ukraine is a foregone conclusion – Ukraine will be flattened if needed. However, that outcome comes at a serious cost.
The war inside Ukraine will wage on for years as an insurgency against Vladimir Putin. The western alliance will spend trillions if needed. NATO will kill as many Ukrainians and mercenary units as needed in order to battle Vladimir Putin in a proxy war. The industrial war machine will gleefully churn out the material needed for the DC based political war machine to purchase. First, WATCH:
https://youtu.be/v8zi6cx6pAw
Harrigan is correct, however, he missed the biggest tell-tale sign of all. Where are the peacekeepers? Where are the diplomatic voices, the ranks of the prudent and pragmatic political voices who focus on stopping the death? Where are those voices? Where is the faith-based voice asking for leaders to stop, breathe, meet and seek a solution without further war?
Those voices are silent because the western motive is to create a long-term insurgent war in Ukraine. The geopolitical system views this as an existential battle against Russia. Both sides in this conflict view this as a zero-sum contest. The NATO alliance doesn’t view Volodymyr as a hero, he’s a tool.
If Zelenskyy were to walk toward a negotiated ceasefire, the bullet that kills him would come from the rear. That’s how corrupt this conflict is.
Serious question.
When you say “nato will kill”… who is doing the killing? The soldiers of the nato countries who are in ukraine?
I dont understand , literally, who is doing the killing?
or is it that nato is figuratively doing the killing?
The Azov Regiment?
I had to think about that, too. I think he meant that NATO will send as many Ukrainians to their deaths at the hands of the Russians as are needed to defeat Putin.
The Ukrainians do NOT have to pick up guns and fight. They can drop the guns and kneel. Is that what you would have them do????
Maybe they don’t want to live on their knees????
Huh? Putin offered to end the conflict if Ukraine recognized The Crimea (which is already Russian) and the Donna’s Province which is 90% Russian. That’s it! Nobody in Ukraine has to live on their knees certainly not like we do!
Until Putin demands more and still more without a hint of a quid pro quo.
Didnt the Warsaw Treaty get disbanded and NATO was to do the same, and they tricked Putin? This has been going on for years. He wanted assurance that NATO would have no access to his boarders, a sort of buffer, it seems reasonable to me, since he wants nothing to do with the WEF and NWO either. The great reset is dead he said at the last WEF…and they wont forgive him for that. There is so much more than what we know.
i’m wondering how it will help the WEF/NWO globalists to remove Putin? What’s he doing that is stymieing their plans? Just wondering…
He’s bombing the labs that sit RIGHT ON HIS BORDER and he’s killing the Nazi contingent within Ukraine (who are, incidentally, doing most of the killing of the Ukrainians). The deep state hates Putin.
Had they just done that, but hey the neocons wouldn’t allow it. No. Rino Lindsay was too busy asking for Putin’s head. Grateful 45 didn’t have him at his SC rally.
My guess Wimsey was at the Sea Island Summit. There are no coincidences Trumped picked SC this past weekend to do a rally.
Thanks for the heads up. I didn’t grasp the date of that traitorous event. Yah. You nailed it.
Classic false choice.
You’re living on your knees spewing the line fed you by the corrupt intelligence community representing the Globalist order. The West had 30 years to contain Russia by coming to a settlement that recognized Russia’s sphere of interest in Ukraine and Georgia. Instead they pushed NATO to Russia’s borders. Their insurgency will not aid Ukraine it will benefit the corrupt actors using Ukraine. In the end Putin will get his neutral Ukraine. The average Ukrainian will live with death and misery.
Imho, all they can do is leave, which is what they are doing, but it’s getting too late to even do that.
kneeling to Russia or to NATO, whats the difference?
Russia will leave them alone when the Nazis are gone and the country is neutral. NATO will continue having them until Putin is gone and Russia decimated. The Nazis have been killing civilians in the Donbas region for the past 8 years. They are not going to just stop.
Want to go back and re-read those questions? You’ve immediately gone into attack mode and essentially stated your side in the conflict. The other poster asked very legitimate questions. What are the answers?
The Ukrainians are being used much like they have been for a long time. The west wants this conflict to go on. Saint Zelenskyy needs to seriously talk to Putin agree to terms and then work to strengthen the country against further incursion. He’s lost the east and the south. The Ukraine is about to become a landlocked country with a smaller border. An insurgency would set back the country decades.
They had loooong 8 yrs to make peace with russians in the eastern ukr. they refuse give them autonomy ..bomb them with 14,000 dead…VVP warn them…attack on russian speaking ppl is attack on Russia….here we are
NATO – and the US – know that Ukrainians can’t “defeat Putin.” They want to hurt Russia by financing a guerrilla war in Ukraine.
And let’s not forget the shiny distraction of a collapsing economy and 6$a gallon gasoline. Putin has caused all of this. Lol.
They want to finance their own pockets, just like they did from OEF/OIF.
NATO arming and supplying the Ukrainians and mercenaries fighting the Russians and their mercenaries.
NATO is the proxy force for the WEF. Somewhere in Davos there is evil and its foot soldiers are hiding in their well protected lairs directing this whole thing. Soros, Schwab, others whose names we don’t know (yet) orchestrating this whole miserable affair. Aided and abetted by our very own cheerleaders calling for assassination of a sovereign government’s leader. Lindsey Graham, the vile loudmouth globalist Romney, both squealing for someone else to do their dirty work.
War has not been declared by Congress, but laws and the Constitution aren’t what they used to be anymore apparently…so war it is…not only on the world stage but on us here at home as well.
The corrupt DC swamp creatures aren’t just cheerleaders, they’re financial beneficiaries. Of course the WEF is in a win win situation in this manufactured Ukraine disaster. The globalists further bankrupt the US and catch the corrupt kickback cash that has flowed through Ukraine for years. Russia getting bled a little is a further bonus. Hard to say what the NATO countries are contributing compared to the US but most likely a very small percentage since the Demented Fraud was installed and PDT is not pressuring them to contribute their 2%. China surprisingly might be the force that ends this mess. Unlikely they want to continue to prop up Putin. The huge profits from oil, again a creation of the Demented Fraud ‘s puppet masters, maybe enough to keep Russia in this mess for a long time.
Yes..the Ukraine has been known as a money launderer’s playground, “bank”, hidey hole. Biden and fils aren’t the only clients there.
And now India wants to purchase Russian oil.
There is no reason for any other country to commit economic suicide just because Biden has ordained it for us.
In our Country, one class of men makes war and leaves another to fight it out.
– William Tecumseh Sherman ‟
It was ever thus. And the best do the latter, and take the casualties.
Wasn’t some idiot calling for a low yield tactical nuke against Russia. Yup some one needs to be offed, and they ain’t Russian.
And our globalist leader Trudeau with his evil side kick Freeland (who was educated in Ukraine in politics, and whos grandfather was a Nazi) are all in on this one. I think those bio weapons factories have some interesting documents that cant be discovered. Nazis trying to make their move in Ukraine, the factories in question and the info they supply to the vaccines and gain of function experimentation on the poor Ukraines, AND lets not forget how exposed Biden and his son are in the Ukraine. I think Zelenskyy set trump up on the infamous call, that got him impeached, and Zelenskyy is now learning how much Biden cares about nobody but himself. The plot is thick, who would have thought it would be Ukraine where this mess ends up.
Freeland’s mother was hired by Soros to create the gummint for Ukraine. Grandfather, mother, daughter, and most likely Chrystia ‘s children will continue on w/the Soros children.
This is a NATO proxy war. Slow cobra…..
Putin should just promote it as Build Back Better.
Then offer Public/Private partnerships and see who steps forward.
10 Thumbs Up!!!!
Can you imagine Putin walking up to a podium with BBB blazoned on the front and BBB wallpaper as the background?
Total mocking of Western leaders and talk of the internet.
who steps forward, every Dim, and most depublicans!
If you include a high-speed rail system like democrats propose in blue cities, it will win hearts and minds.
Speaking of one of the all time egregious, boondoggle “infrastructure ” plots: high-speed rail is right up there with global warming fraud. Funny how it has been the local/state governments’ scam of choice in recent decades all over the country.
That latter is the correct answer. NATO plans to use Ukrainians to fight Russia in Ukraine.
This might help some.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/10/azov-far-right-fighters-ukraine-neo-nazis
Besides Ukrainians:
NATO via the money weapons supplied.
NATO via the Contracted Mercenary soldiers doing the training and even fighting.
NATO vi the Ukrainians they actually train.
NATO via the encouragement to continue fighting and NOT negotiate, including threats to lives of Ukrainian Government offcials who want to end the conflict.
So, yes NATO is literally participating directly in the killing.
Thank you to all who replied and explained! Very much appreciated!
✅️ Zelenskyy being fully aware of being Epsteined if he doesn’t continue with the WEF/Globalists agenda
Probably enough motivation for a lot of political puppets to maintain the continuous war agenda 👍👌
Besides, the money 💰 🤑 💸 and other benefits are just to tempting for most political puppets.
Zelensky has absolutely no control of the Ukrainian Militias being armed by the CIA. If Zelensky attempted to settle the conflict with Russia he’d be publicly executed on a Kviv street like the Ukrainian Peace Negotiator was last week!
BAM!!
A informed poster.
Well done.
Please provide a reference(s) to the CIA supplying the militias…
I have a different take on this which is: NO ONE has seen PICTURES from 3RD PARTIES — ANYWHERE!!!!!!!
Having beein in a few “situations” there are ALWAYS someone/somebody taking pictures or filiming!!!!!!
The US has supplied military arms where ever we wanted since 1913 (why 1913?)
It’s as good a theory as any, we’ve had a fake election and a fake pandemic, is a fake war not a possibility? And if it’s a possibility then the next logical conclusion would be that Putin is also in on it. Would that be a huge surprise based on the last 2 years?
We’ve given Ukraine billions of dollars in military aid. Where have you been?
Which harkens back to SD’s question about where are the peacekeepers- public execution message sent and received.
The Ukrainian negotiator working with the Russians was assassinated. A Ukrainian town’s mayor was assassinated for working with the Russians to allow them in and leave the town intact.
Zelenskyy will not resolve the conflict if he wants to save his life.
Harrigan is a paid shill for the warpig coalition – he was the sack of oatmeal in a ballistic helmet and flak vest convincing the audience tanks were rolling into Kiev 4 weeks ago.
I’m not saying he’s wrong, he’s a mouthpiece for the military industrial complex so whatever he says if what they really really want
He was the same in Iraq.
“he was the sack of oatmeal in a ballistic helmet and flak vest convincing the audience tanks were rolling into Kiev 4 weeks ago.”
Make me laugh out loud!
White European Russian Christians killing White European Ukrainian Christians while the Bolshevik Democrats edge or bait both sides on…it’s a dream come true for the people running the White House!
This is why I just refuse to watch Fox…..propaganda..spin spin spin….rattle those swords….beat those war drums….create victims to send our blood and treasure to….
horse sh1t.
all without ANY concern about people left behind in Afghanistan – no accounting for that –
like the Mad Tea Party in “Alice in Wonderland”
just keep moving on down the table, leaving the old mess, making a new mess
the tragedy is that it isn’t a lot of broken crockery, tarnished silverplate or soiled damask – it’s lives lost, lives ruined, much suffering
susan……indeed
So true Susan J.
They are like a bunch little kids in charge of the house.
Making messes that the grown ups need to finally come home and clean up, if possible.
Sometimes, sadly, the kids burn the place down or completely destroy it before Mom and Dad can get back and set things straight.
Fox sold out years ago.
Now….
Just another Part of the Problem and Illegal regime.
Actually, Fox is even worse than the other One-Party alphabet networks because of its Decepticon nature. It has some credibility with at least some conservatives, so it is able to betray from the inside. Tucker’s almost the only one there who is worth a damn.
Remember when you hear most Republicans and Fox talking heads bitch about Biden, that is only so they can replace him with Thirty Pence or some other snake his ilk.
Fox is awful except for Tucker. The big problem with it is older conservatives watch it and swallow whatever it is selling. It happened with covid and is happening with Ukraine. I have family members who are ready to send in the troops because Hannity said so. People of that generation aren’t as familiar with manipulation tactics and think they can trust the government.
Absolutely right. I have older relatives who I’m certain could never even IMAGINE that the nice people in the ‘msm’, on their telescreens, are telling anything but the absolute truth. 🙁
They all meet for dinner and cocktails after the show, laughing at us, while the money flows to their bank accounts.
They are the unelected third party in this country.
Turned them off on 11/3/20 at around 8:30PM been much happier since.
Fox News is your enemy, treat them as such.
Stan……indeed…1000 thumbs up
You beat me by 5 mins. My wife still watches. She comes in with breaking news. I say “I told you that yesterday”
Checked them out in about 1995, and haven’t trusted them since, but I do watch them, you never blind yourself to your enemy
Stan,
Sir, well said. Thank you for stating the truth. At least the other networks are candid about their communist leanings.
I cancelled my cable TV today. If people would stop watching all the propaganda, we would be much better off as a country.
Haven’t watched a minute of FNC in years. Only watch Tucker monolog when it’s on the CTH.
There are/were biolabs. Ukraine was the deep state’s money laundering hub. An invasion was inevitable and those labs have to be safely demolished.
Once that’s done, expose everything and then just leave.
Trafficking of women and children, drugs, extortion, and other high level secrets to stay hidden. Biden opened a can of worms.
Not the sharpest tack in the can.
This is assuming that the guy who kicked over the table (Putin) will be willing to still play by the rules. I doubt that he will let his people and his mercs get killed indefinitely. This isn’t Korea, where Russia was operating by ‘remote control’ and at a far distance from the heart of the empire; this is almost the exact reverse situation.
I can’t help but see Putin at this point as the last, best hope for muscular Christian Western Civilization.
Putin is not a good guy….he may be the Lesser of many different Evils, but he is still EVIL
What makes you say that? I hear people say this often, and I sometimes see people enumerate specific crimes Putin is alleged to have committed. But what I never see anyone offer is actual evidence that Putin has done the things he is accused of having done.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying Putin isn’t a bad guy. He may be, for all I know. I do like to apply the “innocent until proven guilty” standard when assessing someone’s guilty though, and I have yet to see anyone prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Putin is guilty of anything, let alone the kind of things that would make him some kind of monster that I ought to hate and revile.
Having said this, after watching Oliver Stone’s “The Putin Interviews”, I now seriously entertain the possibility that Putin might actually be a decent guy. https://odysee.com/@HumanitysVault:a/The-Putin-Interviews:f
I watched that interview when it first came out. I am glad I did. Just watched Pedro Gonzales from Chronicles magazine on Steve Bannon’s show. Pedro believes the sanctions on the Russian people will fail by turning the Russian people against the West and to supporting Putin even more. I am at the point that I will never believe nor support anything the US government says or does EVER AGAIN!
Yes, we had a dress rehearsal with the BS flung at Trump, so maybe evidence should be asked for. I’v had one brother and a good friend demonize Trump, with no evidence to prove their point, fact the friend did more to blow his own narrative up, than prove it.
I have asked former liberal friends “Why do you say that?” as a response to all those sexist, racist, nazi
labels they put on Trump. The “pussy” one is usually mentioned and I ask them if they have ever
listened to 12 year old boys? I have to correct them then about what exactly he said. Same o, same o.
99% of the time I get no response to my questions.
Every time I mention Trump, one of my adult children screams at me, “He’s a rapist!”
Your knee is jerking…
How do you know? And, what do you know? Could be he is an evil guy just like President Trump
was a Nazi, sexist, racist, warmongering idiot
labeled by the media
But for now, imo he falls squarely into the category of the-enemy-of-my-enemy-is-my-friend.
Why is Putin evil? I’ve asked repeatedly and no one has answered.
Forever war.
Wars are part of human behavior so let’s make money off of it! This is what “they” do, monetize ever human behavior.
They found out how unpopular Americans in forever war is nationally, but funding foreigners in forever wars…
Our so called elites are immoral, cruel, immersed in fantasy, and stuck in short term thought.
…and not to mention throughly corrupted and twisted by lust for money and power.
why? why on earth does the west want a long-term insurgent war against Russia? to what end and for what purpose? what does the west writ large perceive as their net gain? Does anyone in the West think we can defeat him? Especially now that our armed services have been purged. Either China and India will join Putin or the nukes will fly, imo.
They want to bleed Russia, then gut it, meanwhile continue to endlessly rob the U.S. taxpayer….
Mark my words. Biden is doing this to help China. When as you say they bleed Russia and Russia is weak. Xi will do the same thing Hitler did. He will move on Russia! The Russians have what they desperately need, oil and resources.
And of course Biden gets 10%.
They want to destroy democracy in the process.
they want to sell armaments so Ratheon, et al will give them money.
First and foremost, it helps implement the Green New Deal. Putin will get rich from high oil prices and as with most the BS that gets churned out of DC, the working class gets the shaft.
Second, it is the MIC and the movement of $ overseas via the state dep’t. This is how the UniParty gets rich. They get their cut through professional money laundering.
Third, and of course, it will lead to higher taxes. This money will not go to war effort, but once again, be diverted to the Green New Deal.
Fourth, ultimately the dollar will go away as the reserve currency for international trade. Biden via executive order set the stage for a crypto-currency as the new model. Its intent is take down the US, destroy the middle class, and once again, only the elites hold assets and all the wealth.
And fifth, to take away and limit your freedoms. Speaking against the war, well we are going to deny access to your bank account for one week. The Ministry of Internal Movement now deems it necessary for you to carry a location and tracking device on your cell phone at all times.
I’m thinking that all BRICS countries will side with Putin.
Already happening.
Plus a few, and that would wind up being 50% of the world’s economy.
The destruction of the people of Russia by any means and then the WEF/new world order will come for us. They don’t need us. They have all the illegal alien invaders to replace us.
Because Putin cares about his country. Can’t have that; doesn’t fit the globalist new world agenda.
Watch the other hand. Our DC Cartel apparently just extended the State Of Emergency the other day, using Russia Russia Russia as a pretense (as if they need one). This gives them additional authority that, I’m only guessing, they will use to rig the Midterm elections this November.
yep ya gotta trust da news.
Woe is me, these reporters go through so much to bring us their lies. And like politicians, they never go away.
WOW, the jobama admin gets a 2 for 1 because you can bet Trump, his followers and anyone who he endorses, supports or even smiles at will be labeled a putin puppet.
JoeBama gets zilch, zero, nada. President Trump and his followers (Les Deplorables!) have been called every derogatory name in the book plus a few new ones.
However name-calling by Satan-worshipping criminals only confirms our righteousness and strengthens our resolve.
Minutes before I read this, I read an article about a prominent prophetic Rabbi who says Biden could be Gog and Putin the anti-messiah.
lol
Hebrew scriptures clearly identify Gog as “the Assyrian”. He’ll be from Asia Minor or thereabouts. Biden is just a run of the mill demonic tool.
Or one of the ‘satanic chimera’ referred to by the Russian Orthodox Priest i read about the other day.
Just beware, most Orthodox Jewish Rabbis do not believe there are any Jews currently able to prophesize. There are some who are able to make very good guesses based on past prophecies and other ways of deciphering the writings, but a current prophet, we know of none.
Ty. Perhaps I used the wrong terminology. He’s considered a mystic Rabbi. And he didn’t say it was absolute, so prophecy was probably not the right word. I do appreciate your help.
This is why I come here….we have experts in everything!
Yesterday a Rhodesian guy made a great point about Rhodesia….today we have another great post with pertinent info on Orthodox Jews! Thx!
More than likely Putin is the one force with enough power to stop the antiChrist forces in their tracks. I would be wary to place any credence in prophetic uttering by the philosophical and moral descendants of the Pharisees and Saducees.
I just cannot stand Fox News anymore –
and I want to say, Steve Harrigan et al – it may be the war machines fond wish to see a long-running war in Ukraine but by the grace of dear God, maybe all of you will be hugely surprised when Putin’s forces wrap things up, unexpectedly
I can’t watch Jessie Watters at all! It’s like watching an episode of Saturday Night Live. Karl Rove finally called him out on Friday about spewing his “disinformation”.
Karl Rove is THE UNIPARTY
Karl Rove knows all about disinformation.
Pot calling the kettle black.
OK I’m calling you out on that assessment of what transpired on Watters’ Friday March 11 show. Im watch Watters occasionally on video replays and this accusation struck me as not being the Jesse Watters that I watch.
I just watched the March 11 show, and Karl Rove did not accuse Watters of spreading disinformation. He disagreed with Watters’ statements that members of Congress who just coincidentally bought oil-based energy stocks in January were not doing so “blind” as to what was coming. Congress members had been on committees and heard about Ukraine for months leading up to this. Jesse noted that the Democrats he exposed are publicly demanding the Green New Deal but privately investing in oil energy stocks and fertilizer stocks JUST before the price goes up wildly, while the public was assured this invasion would not happen…. Yeah sure. Just a coinkydink.
Rove insisted that Congress members were required to have their investments handled by a blind trust and Rove very obviously implied that they were not using “inside information” to enrich themselves. Watters held his ground saying his team had researched this. Rove went further to say he felt Congress should not be prohibited from having investment stocks.
Rove is a DC Establishment fat cat who has made million$ from his grifting of the DC politician’s inside information. Watters is rarely on the wrong side of any argument I’ve ever heard.
Thats my take on the first segment on Watters Friday night show.
Ditto. I watched him mouth ridiculous propaganda for a moment while channel surfing…. Apparently, all the media talking heads have been given a stark, binary choice. Except for Lou Dobbs, and perhaps Tucker, almost all of them have thrown in with the Globalist Cabal.
Who is Karl to accuse someone else of spewing?
It amazes me how many people here write they hate Fox but keep watching. They could do the obvious, but don’t and would rather complain.
I gave up on Fox when I could no longer stomach tik-tocs. Now I go with the Hounds.
1984 never ending wars, newspeak, etc. I read about this back in the 60’s.
The Ukrainians and Russians don’t have endless soldiers due to negative birth rates. The Afghans could keep the crap going for 20 years because they produce so many kids. Doesn’t mean we won’t try to drag it out forever but to do so we’ll have to send troops.
I think the petrodollar will crash fairly soon and then we won’t be able to print money or send troops.
This Steve Harrigan guy is full of sh!t…. might as well call him Mitt Romney!
I am hoping they put a pill in globohomo zelensky’s cpu.
On national TV
I’ve been saying it since the start….
Where are the peacekeeper’s?
God, I hate these proxy wars.
In watching the video, my gut tells me that presentation was nothing more than generating opposition sympathy. I give no credibility to Steve Harrigan or either of the propagandists behind the desk.
The best I can tease out is that – this is how the globalists want it be going forward, not as it is.
They drool for an Emmy for their dramatic acting skills.
They will use this for years to claim “Russians hacked the DNC servers” and therefore the election is fraudulent… Or whatever the 2022-2030 equivalent is…they will say we cannot re-elect Trump because he is a stoodge for the Russians…on and on and on…
Plus the money doesn’t suck for Senators and the Clinton Global Initiative. They get paid to watch…
It does seem like they’re setting the stage with our media by talking about the next phase “cyber attacks” so when they get their behins handed to them in November they’ll be screaming about just the thing you brought up! We all know the drill by now.
BTW I personally think this Bill Hemmer guy is a CIA agent as are a lot of the current media. Something just smells about him.
I actually do not expect any sort of prolonged anything. Putin’s aim is to end the NAZIs (well under way) and to disable the Ukraine military. He’s working to expose all that has been going on in Ukraine and though the UN and other bodies will refuse to listen for a time, the complete loss of faith in US power will eventually formalize the US as an untrusted ally of the western alliances.
Since the US will not get directly involved, the EU will let what’s happening happen.
All of this will change if the administration will manage to deploy US forces. Interestingly, they are begging all other nations for pretty much everything… taking the weakest possible positions imaginable.
I’m growing increasingly convinced the US military has turned on Biden. TV generals are just talking heads. The only “armed military” out there that isn’t a contractor is CIA forces. That’s ALL they’ve got.
And no matter what happens NATO allies will not follow ANYTHING the US does at this point.
Seems to me that what we’re witnessing is the death of NATO happening before our very eyes.
PDJT wanted Europe to pay for it’s defense!
Promise made, promise kept!
I think Great Britain is still run by globalists and the EU, Brexit notwithstanding.
YOu either want the NWO,EU criminal cabal enslaving you, or you don’t. It’s obvious this Hannigan shill wants you to be the slave.
Send lawyers guns and money the shit has hit the fan, Warren Zevon
And Trump can’t say this aloud or the PTB will try to arrest him….some way, any way.
So Trump is just going to run around for the rest of his life, couching his words in fear of arrest, of himself or his family?
Please stop.
Trump has said he is against Putin and nato should take him out, he also believes the coronavirus vaccine was the end-all and be-all, millions dying from it not withstanding.
I understand all the great things he did as president. Amazing list of accomplishments…. but mostly undone by the potato head biden .
What the hell is going on with him now?
Fear is not an answer. He started out as fearless. What changed?
What’s the possibilities in the human trafficking arena? I have an elderly British friend with whom I keep in communication, who has fallen for the Western party line hook, line, and sinker. She and her husband are applying to host Ukrainian refugees. It’s a sweet, kind gesture on her part, but notably, she said she was surprised to find that a small stipend is paid to both the refugees and those who host them. Having a nasty, suspicious mind, my immediate thought was “this sounds like facilitation of human trafficking.”
So is it likely these are legitimate refugees? Citizens fleeing a country co-opted as a battleground? Or are we looking at another large-scale human trafficking operation as well as a coverup?
Great questions.
yes to the last question
there is ENOURMOUS money to be made in human trafficing and slavery! always has been.. At this time approx. 40 million people in the world are enslaved
It’s also the Great Replacement Strategy.
Your friend needs to read the paper work dealing with this refugee issue very very carefully.
People who become involved with good intentions of “helping” refugees and taking them into their homes in Britain, France and other Euro countries have found out that they are forced to keep some very unsavory people in their homes who are not nice at all and are not tired, huddled masses looking for a better life.
A lot of these so called “refugees” are down right nasty people, looking for an easy life and bring some very bad habits with them to their new country.
Because of the paper work the host families sign and the money that changes hands the host families are unable to evict these refugees and are stuck for a long time hosting down right criminals in their own homes, sometimes these parasites can stay for years.
Many kind hearted people learn the hard way.
I agree with you thoroughly; no way would I even dream of doing it myself. But she’s a little left of center and cannot conceive of the government having less than the best interests of their people at heart. All I can do is pray for her.
No good deed goes unpunished. And the road to hell w/paved w/good intentions.
Who is paying the bill? Can we send your friends some refugees from our Southern Border?
But once the proxy war is established for good, to the neocons and neolibs, there really is no need to overthrow Putin. They can keep him as a bogey man.
Maybe, but Putin just might be a formidable enemy to the elite globalist’s.
They may have bitten off more than they can chew this time.
“Where is the faith-based voice asking for leaders to stop, breathe, meet and seek a solution without further war?”
Here’s one:
25 February 2022 – Salt Lake City – Official Statement
First Presidency Statement on Armed Conflict
Church leaders plead that “peace will prevail among nations and within our own hearts”
The First Presidency of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has issued the following statement:
We are heartbroken and deeply concerned by the armed conflict now raging. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has members in each of the affected areas and throughout the world. Our minds and hearts have been turned toward them and all our brothers and sisters.
We continue to pray for peace. We know that enduring peace can be found through Jesus Christ. He can calm and comfort our souls even in the midst of terrible conflicts. He taught us to love God and our neighbors.
We pray that this armed conflict will end quickly, that the controversies will end peacefully and that peace will prevail among nations and within our own hearts. We plead with world leaders to seek for such resolutions and peace.
The First Presidency
This is a lovely and kind hearted statement hth and much needed.
But I do not know what to think about this First Presidency of the LDS Church.
President Russel M Nelson, back at the beginning of the covid problem when the vax first came out encouraged the 16 million members of his church to “take the vaccine to protect the vulnerable” and many of them did at his request.
Now that the evidence has come out of the horrific damage and death it causes has he apologized for what he has put upon the members of his own church?
Now that this issue is placing the covid problem on the back burner so many of the world’s religious leaders who let their congregations down by pushing the vaccine, locking their churches up and going along with government mandates seem to think that we will forget their abandonment.
We will not, the trust is gone.
First, the topic is not about the vaccine. I was merely pointing out that there are religious leaders speaking up for peace in this conflict.
But to your off-topic point – there is much more direction and guidance that members are aware of and encouraged to follow (ie praying about vaccines and health decisions, etc). It’s also up to each individual to decide how they use their agency. If people have only gone by one statement instead of considering all the other comments, that’s on them and not on the leadership. To me, the number of people that have gotten the vaccine only reveals how many are not following the more important counsel or have unfortunately allowing pressure from scared family and friends to sway their decision.
I am concerned the globalist will do cyberwar and blame it on Putin.
They will use it to move to cryptocurrency, their version of it.
It wouldn’t surprise me if our government was the ones blowing up the hospital etc. And just as you say we will creat the cyber war they need to carry on with their narrative.
Ukraine is the new Afghanistan. Get used to it.
No. Ukraine is the new Palestine.
All of this has the stench of an empire beginning to collapse in real time. We speak often of the American empire in decline metaphorically, in terms of quality of leadership and corruption, but this is really beginning to feel like it’s going to happen pretty quickly and manifest in a real way.
China is pointing their finger at us and demanding the truth on the Ukrainian biolabs. Russia, with a strong leader like Putin, has stood up to the bully of the U.S. and the E.U./NATO and it seems like others are following suit (particularly those in the BRICS orbit).
I don’t know what it means in the near future in a practical sense, but my gut tells me that the psychopaths in charge are in for a very rude awakening. That doesn’t bother me too much, but what concerns me is what the cost will be for everyday Americans who had their votes vanquished in the last “election” cycle. Many innocent Ukrainians are dying because of their corrupt government and its alliance with NATO.
Will we pay the same price because by default we are members of a Republic that is steamrolling innocents abroad? Perhaps a new party should arise, a coalition that says to Washington D.C., “You’re on your own.”
Perhaps secession, in favor of preservation of a moral society, is the best step forward?
Hopefully Resident Biden doesn’t use up all the volunteers who want to go fight in Ukraine. He’s going to need a lot of them when he tries drafting our kids.
The president of Afghanistan who helicoptered out to Dubai with $100M of American taxpayer $$$ looking pretty smart to me compared to Zelensky.
I laughed. I hope that doesn’t make me a bad person:)
Indistiguishable from CNN or MSNBC analysis. Putin bad, Ukraine just sitting there and got attacked. Nothing about how provocative NATO membership dangling is… nothing about the Minsk accords that have been ignored.. nothing but agitprop mainstream pap. Reminds me how Fox called AZ at 9pm and stuck by it regardless. Jerks.
Good point UncleMax and one to remember about FOX and the 2020 election.
I have not seen FOX in many years, we cut the cord long ago.
But I seem to remember this Harrigan guy from the long ago “Arab Spring” coverage when he would appear in front of the camera some where in the middle east (Egypt?) wearing a flak jacket and a nifty military helmet and breathlessly tell us all how “exciting” this amazing new civilian revolution against the evil leaders of these countries was going.
Trying to portray it as the Arab Patriot American Style Revolution and how wonderful all the new won freedom from the awful slave leadership was going to work out for these countries.
Right.
“No one wants to fight an unfair fight.” – Redditor mugged by Reality.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1503207784334204928.html
This classic from a Reddit editor who went over to help, and got his barracks bombed.
“Praying to a god I don’t believe in…”
But the news media paints it as Putin is losing..Ukraine is kicking his butt,
he thought this would be a cake walk..
I still am boggled at the narrative that ” Putin thought this or that” strawmen that keeps painting what Putin thought or what his plan was. The western media has zero idea what Putin was planning or is planning. The notion that Russia is foundering in a land war in a area that they know like a Texan knows his way around Louisiana, is baffling. And logistics somehow doesn’t favor Russia being literally right there. Insane assumptions.
Painting a portrait for western audiences of a Russian Army in Ukraine that is crumbling and of a Vladimir Putin who is therefore getting desperate does undermine the rationale for US or NATO intervention, which would seem to make the narrative contrary to the interests of the military industrial complex and neocons goons who are now working overtime to manufacture consent for the war they’d previously been slowly conditioning the American public for years to accept. On the other hand, it does give people a picture of how the conflict over there is going that answers the question people are likely to ask themselves when the false flag attack takes place, namely, “Why on Earth did Putin decide to use chemical weapons? It would only guarantee that the US would intervene!”
He really believed NATO and EU would help him should trouble arise. He was in it for the money (all those Billions promised). Now, he’s stuck with nothing.
I know Jenevieve.
According to the American media the last few days the Ukraine was winning and the Russians were bogged down everywhere.
There were dead Russians lying in the snow and it was all but over with the Ukrainian’s dancing in the street.
Now we hear sober reporters telling us it will be a long haul and who know when it will be over.
Turn them off and go do something worth while with your lives.
Keep the money rolling into David so he can, so they want you to believe, take down Goliath. That’s what it’ all about. $$$$$$$
The one big caveat to this is, Putin has the goods on the Deep State and the corruption within Ukraine.
If / When he starts dropping it ( he already has with biowarfare labs ) then this narrative should get destroyed along with their war mongering behaviours.
If you’ve paid attention (not saying this sarc.) I noticed and said to my wife, every time I see the map with the Russian controlled areas it doesn’t seem to be changing much. Now either they’re really bad militarily or as you pointed out they’re actually getting the goods on the deep state.
I remember about a week and a half ago hearing on the news that the Russian blew up a bio lab! Not much was said other than that mention. Now all of a sudden there’s a lot of talk about these bio labs. hummmmm Something is definitely not right here.
I hope he does expose the losers in the deep state.
check-The Vineyard of the Saker-for daily update of Russian incursion…
I thoroughly enjoyed this discussion re: Ukraine
It’s a question and answer – many questions we are asking are out on the table and this guy thinks like we do
https://www.bitchute.com/video/IuhSuRmgdUnS/
It’s their new Syria now. All the money will be flowing there indefinitely.
If that’s so, then America/NATO are comfortable with Kiev turning into Aleppo.
The European globalists and their American acolytes are uniquely responsible for every drop of blood and broken window. May God stoke up his fires for their inevitable punishment. This is the direct result of the foolish machinations of Obama through Clinton and Kerry to foment socialist revolution (Bolshevik style) in a broad ‘color-coded’ swath. Only the village idiot…and most of my friends…
couldn’t foresee that Russia, and in particular Putin, were not going to acquiesce to American weapons place into their geographic belly without a fight? What other options exist? NATO should never have been pushed beyond the old Warsaw Pact western boundary, and it is absolutely ludicrous that these twits keep pushing into historical Russian territories. Biden, or his brain trust, could have and should have immediately removed the foolish idea of a Russian Ukraine in NATO…foolishness on an epic level!
Maybe now is the time for thinking Western citizens to drive a stake through the heart of the long ago meaningful NATO? NATO, just as the Axis…and the Hanseatic League…are things of the past.
If the installed White House occupant and his contingent, along with his Rino supporters, push Putin into a corner with sanctions that ruin the Russian economy and keep poking the bear militarily in Ukraine – he just might pull the pin on a Nuke or two to stay in power.
The state run US media has their own narrative.
https://americanfaith.com/russia-ukraine-may-soon-come-to-agreement-russian-negotiator/
NATO has descended into a whore for hire.
Peace is not an option at this time. The media sycophants are just as appreciative of replacing the overdone Covid hysteria reporting with the Ukrainian war story and Russia hysteria as JoeBama and the rest of the world leaders are. Now that we are confronted with hyperinflation, supply issues and a myriad of other issues because of the covid mismanagement this diversion will avail them the opportunity not be held accountable for their covid misdeeds while the sheeple are concerned about WWW3.
Is China holding Putin back from full disclosure on Joe, Hunter, Mitt, Kerry, Hillary, State Dept, CIA in Ukraine? Sometimes I think so – Biden is their puppet.
Hmmm, intriguing question, very plausible.
You hit the nail on the head. NATO, and the US, is planning to use Ukraine to fight Russia. That’s why millions of dollars worth of US equipment is being sent there. They want Ukraine to hurt Russia, while knowing damn well the country has no chance.
“The war inside Ukraine will wage on for years as an insurgency against Vladimir Putin.”
Only if Putin is dumb enough to try and occupy Ukraine, and win those hearts-and-minds, and I doubt he is. Surely, he has learned from our stupidity in Afghanistan, Iraq and Vietnam and Russia’s own stupidity in Afghanistan. I highly doubt he has any intention of trying to occupy all of Ukraine or even a large part of it.
Steve Harrigan must think Putin is as dumb as LBJ and Bush the junior.
If it is such a slam-dunk that Russia will win this war, why is Russia going to Xi asking for military help?
I doubt he did.
You heard that from the MSM, right?
The goal of a war is to get the other side to stop fighting.
Why would we sic a chihuahua up against a pack of wolfhounds?
What fun is that to see the chihuahua torn to pieces?
Watching this clip just reminds me of how done I am with Fox News.
100 percent
In my humble opinion what goes on between Russia and Ukraine is none of our business, period. The only reason the Western political class & elites want to meddle/intervene is because Ukraine has been a money spigot for them with most of it stemming from illegal activities.
Sorry to sound harsh, but there are plenty of other warzones across the globe and we pay no attention to them what-so-ever.
I’m a bit surprised, and saddened, that the professional liar class and money have so effectively engrossed the American public in this distraction from all the far more important missions we need to be focused on right here at home and have largely ignored for decades. It is what it is guess.
Enjoy the next fraudulent election, it’ll be here in a few months, with inflated gas to get to the polling booth. America.
Well it is our business if our lousy guvmint decides to send all of our tax dollars (assuming dollars are still a functioning currency) for the next several years.
Russia (USSR) already experienced their own quagmire of Afghanistan. They won’t fall for that again.
These people must regard Moshe Dayan as history’s greatest war criminal.
He showed how to win a war, and win it fast (six days).
Putin does not want to fight an insurgency. Once sews up the east and south and curs off the Ukraine from the sea he ll consolidate the territory and in so doing changes the economic and political landscape in Europe. He’s many things but an idiot is not one of them.
There may be more than enough Ukrainians with an ax to grind to make the invasion a long continuing painful experience.
Why? Putin already said that he’s only interested in the three Russian populated provinces of Ukraine, Crimea and the two Donbas areas.
… and Hitler only wanted the Sudetenland.
Kiev is the ancestral home of the Russian empire… he wants Kiev also.
The quagmire in Afghanistan was the US arming the mujahideen (that became al qaeda) so to create hell for Russia. In Syria, it was ISIS. Remember Russia entering that battle field? I use to listen to Putin. He would sit for hours and take questions from his people. No secret as to how he thinks if you listen to him when he talks. A lot of Russian jihadists had joined up with ISIS. Putin said, “I can fight them in Syria or wait for them to return to Russia and have to fight them on homeland.” Better to stop it now. He was then very critical of the US arming up psychopath factions to conduct our regime changes. Just a very bad idea as then you have military armed psychopaths. Look at what happened to Libya!! I remember Putin saying in disgust he couldn’t understand our inability to learn lessons from mistakes.
We next played the same game in Ukraine using neonazi militants to do our coup de tat of their government and build another psychopathic army against Russia. I love Trump but he was wrong to start supplying them with lethal weapons. Biden continued that and here we are. Putin is taking down that neonazi military before it attacks Crimea and his homeland which was their plan.
Our military actions are instigated and guided by corruption not by anything else!
President Trump taking bad advice from people in our government.
I agree. I think if Trump had been able to have a good long sit down and talk with Putin, he would have learned so much. I think Putin knows where all the bodies are buried.
I was under the impression the Democrats called Trump pro-Russia because he didn’t want to arm them.
I remember him saying the same exact things. But I guess our so called Leaders just do not care. I think the Europeans ones will start having more acute hearing soon. Either that or they won’t be able to hear anything, just the hum of the Universe.
I agree, the Europeans better let Putin know that they will be preparing for war… like it or not.
Russia MUST fight to the bitter end! If they stop, Soros forces will place missiles on the Ukraine/Russia border. Those missiles are just minutes from Moscow. Needed to counteract Russia’s hyper-sonic missiles that can reach Soros-Istan in America within minutes. Soros MUST prove Putin will die in a nuclear fireball before he dies in their nuclear fireball. Of course, the Kongress Kangaroos and Dimocrats will facilitate, build or fund ANY insane maneuver or offensive Soros or Schwab want done.
Korea = Vietnam = Iraq = Syria = Afghanistan = Ukraine = soon to occur AMERICA!
Same players, same taxpayers, same losers, same winners!
The way the west is willing to fight to the last Ukrainian?