I have been asked to outline why the author of the “Steele Dossier”, former British intelligence officer Chris Steele, is doubling down on two central and disproven claims within his dossier.
In this preview segment of the Chris Steele interview with George Stephanopoulos, you will note that Steele denies two major flaws in his dossier: (1) the Russian pee-tapes story of Trump having Russian hookers peeing on him in a Moscow hotel; and (2) Michael Cohen traveling to Prague to facilitate the Trump-Russia collusion.
Both of these claims are ridiculous and debunked by Robert Mueller and FBI investigations, yet Chris Steele stands by them. There is an obvious reason why Steele must stick to those claims; however, few people understand the deep background of both claims. CTH knows the likelihood of both false claims and as a consequence we see the motive for why Steele needs to stick to them. First, watch this preview segment (prompted):
https://youtu.be/l561_SfQaPA?t=35
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It is highly likely that John Durham knows the exact origin of the Pee-Tapes and Cohen in Prague story. It is also likely when this interview took place that Chris Steele did not know what Durham and Aldenberg know, well, until now. {Hi Chris} Whether Durham does anything to hold Steele accountable will depend on whether Durham is going to act on the criminal referral he was given for Nellie Ohr {Go Deep}. I do not hold any level of confidence.
That said, let me explain why each of those fabricated elements of the Steele Dossier must be retained or else Steele opens himself up to a much larger issue. You’ll understand why he cannot admit they are false when you understand where he likely got the information. We shall start with the origin of the Pee Tapes story, and embed a bunch of links for those interested in going deep.
Chris Steele (left) and ABC’s George Stephanopoulos (right)
♦ The story of the Russian hookers peeing on Donald Trump almost certainly came from a Russian billionaire named Oleg Deripaska.
Christopher Steele was actually a contracted employee of Deripaska, at least Deripaska was paying Chris Steele for some type of work in the U.K. Oleg Deripaska is a typically sketchy wealthy Russian with some quirky aspects to his humor. Oleg’s U.S. lawyer was a guy named Adam Waldman. You might remember that Adam Waldman was also the legal liaison between Chris Steele and SSCI Vice-Chairman Mark Warner {Go Deep}.
Adam Waldman is the connective tissue between Chris Steele, Oleg Deripaska and another name from the SSCI, former staffer Dan Jones. When Senator Chuck Grassley wanted to question the lawyer/lobbyist Adam Waldman, Waldman lied to avoid testimony {Go Deep}. Unfortunately it was a line of Senate query that was quickly dropped.
Oleg Deripaska was on his yacht in the summer of 2016 with a sketchy Russian sex/intelligence worker named Anastasia Vashukevich (27). [Both Pictured Left]
Vashukevich is the Belarusian woman who was being held in a prison in Thailand under charges of recruiting women to act as prostitutes and escorts. {Go Deep}
Ms. Vashukevich name surfaced early in 2018 when CNN claimed she had dirt on Trump and “tapes” of some sort relating to Deripaska and his activities with contacts around the 2016 election. [More Backstory]
In the height of the Trump-Russia madness, CNN sent Ivan Watson to Thailand to interview Ms. Vashukevich in the hopes that she could validate the “hookers” and “pee-tapes” material that was in the Steele Dossier. However, by the time CNN arrived, Anastasia changed her mind.
It turned out the recording Ms. Vashukevich was promoting/leveraging, was actually a recording of Oleg Deripaska; and, at his request she returned them to him.
FOX NEWS: […] Vashukevich told The Associated Press that she had turned over audio recordings to Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska, whose conversations about election interference she claimed to have taped.
She has said she provided “escort” services to Deripaska, who is close to Russian President Vladimir Putin and who has links to Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign manager now being tried in the United States on money laundering and other charges.
Speaking to an AP reporter in the courtroom in Pattaya, Vashukevich said she had promised Deripaska she would no longer speak on the matter, and that he had already promised her something in return for not making that evidence public. (read more)
The tapes Ms. Vashukevich was discussing at the time (trying to leverage her way out of jail) was a previous recording by Deripaska of a conversation between Oleg and his retained employee Christopher Steele about then presidential candidate Donald Trump. This is the conversation where Trump, Russian hookers and pee-tapes came up. Keep in mind, Oleg likely knew what Steele’s questions were for; Oleg knew what Chris Steele did for a living, and Oleg had a motive to snark at the entire operation and U.S. election.
Deripaska didn’t trust anyone related to intelligence operations in either the U.K or the U.S, and Deripaska had previously been burned by the FBI in 2009 after they asked for his help. {Go Deep}
In 2009 the FBI, then headed by Robert Mueller, requested the assistance of Russian billionaire Oleg Deripaska in an operation to retrieve former FBI officer and CIA resource Robert Levinson who was captured in Iran two years earlier. The agent assigned to engage Deripaska was Andrew McCabe; the primary FBI need was financing and operational support. Deripaska spent around $25 million and would have succeeded except the U.S. State Department, then headed by Hillary Clinton, backed out.
In the summer of 2016, Steele was under retainer by Deripaska and also working for Fusion-GPS. In hindsight, the conversation was almost certainly part of the research Steele was doing for his Fusion-GPS assignment and assembly of the dossier into Trump. Oleg was an easy and obvious source, and Anastasia Vashukevich just happened to be with Oleg when the conversation took place. She snagged the tapes upon departure, she was busted in Thailand and tried to use the info to get out.
Keep in mind, in September of 2016 Andrew McCabe was Deputy Director of the FBI, when two FBI agents approached Deripaska in New York – asking for his help. The FBI request was for Deripaska to outline Trump’s former campaign manager Paul Manafort as a tool of the Kremlin. Deripaska once hired Manafort as a political adviser and invested money with him in a business venture that went bad. Deripaska sued Manafort, alleging he stole money. However, according to a John Solomon article, despite Deripaska’s disposition toward Manafort, he viewed the FBI request as absurd. He laughed the FBI away, telling them: “You are trying to create something out of nothing.”
After Trump won the 2016 election, the entire apparatus of the U.S. intelligence system and DOJ turned on Deripaska because he now represented a risk {Go Deep}.
Chris Steele is sticking to that story of the pee-tapes because his connection to Oleg Deripaska, Adam Waldman, SSCI Chairman Mark Warner, Dan Jones, Fusion-GPS, Glenn Simpson, Nellie Ohr and Bruce Ohr is very prickly when it comes to his participation and intentional fabrication.
♦ The origin of the Michael Cohen in Prague is even more convoluted. However, that story connects to the recently highlighted connection between Perkins Coie lawyer Michael Sussmann and Rodney Joffe. While working for Perkins Coie, Sussmann also represented Rodney Joffe, a cybersecurity expert referred to in Durham’s indictment as “Tech Executive-1.” In 2016, Joffe, who has not been previously identified, worked with researchers to collect internet data about the Trump Organization that Sussmann took to the FBI. {Go Deep} You’ll see where Joffe surfaces toward the end.
The Michael Cohen in Prague story originates in the research conducted by Fusion-GPS after Glenn Simpson hired former CIA open-source researcher, Nellie Ohr.
Mrs. Nellie Ohr was the wife of DOJ-NSD lawyer Bruce Ohr who was also the primary 2016 conduit between Chris Steele and the FBI.
In September 2015, Nellie Ohr was hired by Fusion-GPS (Glenn Simpson) to work on the Trump research project {Go Deep}. In April 2016 Fusion-GPS was contracted by Clinton Campaign, through Perkins Coie, specifically to use their previous research and help fabricate evidence that Donald Trump and his associates were in collusion with the Russians. Fusion-GPS then contracted with Christopher Steele for the creation of the Trump-Russia dossier which later became the “Steele Dossier.”
For all intents and purposes, Christopher Steele was a laundry operation where he was given information from Nellie Ohr (and others), washed it, and then passed it back to his DOJ contact Bruce Ohr, who then passed it along to the FBI seemingly washing away the originating political fingerprints of Fusion-GPS and Nellie Ohr.
After the laundry was discovered; and after Bruce Ohr was demoted from his position at the DOJ; he was later interviewed by FBI investigators where Bruce Ohr passed along a thumb-drive with the total of his wife’s research. However, when he did that the Fusion GPS header was stripped (link).
It’s worth remembering here that Nellie Ohr’s involvement in the scheme was considered such a risk that the New York Times even ran an article saying Nellie Ohr did not work on the dossier. However, both Bruce Ohr and Nellie Ohr gave testimony that she did. The way Bruce Ohr described it, his wife’s research was like an additional dossier assembled from Fusion GPS research to augment what Steele was separately providing the FBI.
In October of 2018 Mrs. Nellie Ohr was questioned by a House committee about her involvement with Fusion-GPS while working as a paid contract agent for the firm. Additionally, she was questioned on: her relationship with the dossier origination; her contacts with Christopher Steele; her role and responsibility within Fusion as it related to the Trump project; and the nature of the communication between herself and the participating players inside and outside of government.
Mrs Ohr invoked spousal privilege to protect any communication between herself and her husband.
We now know that in 2016 a cybersecurity expert named Rodney Joffe was under contract with Perkins Coie and collaborating with researchers to collect internet data about the Trump Organization that Clinton Lawyer Michael Sussmann took to the FBI.
So we know the FBI was getting research information from Nellie Ohr via Chris Steele, and from Rodney Joffe via Michael Sussmann.
What do Nellie and Rodney have in common? They are both HAM Radio operators. What a coincidence.
There is every indication the Michael Cohen visiting Prague story originated from Nellie’s research and was passed along to Chris Steele becoming a point in his dossier. An unfortunately named art dealer from New York was likely mistaken for President Trump’s lawyer.
Former Senate Intelligence Committee lead staffer Dan Jones was working with Glenn Simpson at Fusion-GPS. Fusion-GPS contracted with Nellie Ohr in “late 2015”. This is the exact same time when thousands of unauthorized “contractor searches” were taking place within the NSA/FBI database. This is where the Ham radio comes in handy to receive, share and discuss information from database extraction.
Nellie Ohr then sends research outcomes to Chris Steele for the dossier assembly; and the dossier is then laundered back to Bruce Ohr and FBI for use in their operation against the Trump campaign. Meanwhile, Simpson and Jones are leaking to the media who are writing articles. Nellie then captures those articles to validate material in the dossier; puts the citations on a thumb-drive and gives it to Bruce. Again, it’s the same damn origin.
Chris Steele is not defending his lies, he is defending the mistaken research of Nellie Ohr.
For obvious reasons, Chris Steele cannot reveal where he got both points of erroneous information without exposing himself to the legal ramifications that accompany a group of political operatives successfully weaponizing the FBI against a U.S. presidential candidate. This is not conspiracy theory, this is a factual conspiracy.
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Surely this is straight up defamation?
Although it’s the adolescent US legal system …so who knows.
Christopher Steele is interviewed by Stephanopoulos.
Steele was hired by team Hillary
Stephanopoulos gave at least $75k to the Clinton foundation.
“May 15, 2015 · Stephanopoulos has acknowledged giving $75,000 to the Clinton Foundation between 2012 and 2014; the Foundation’s website reports Stephanopoulos as giving between $50,001 and $100,000.”
So did Steel act alone in setting up the interview or did team Clinton set it up?
Steponallofus is a know Clinton/D operative. He is the safest choice of a journalist for this mission.
Stephanopoulos’ first job for the Clinton’s was creating and managing the “bimbo eruption” defense team. That’s all I ever needed to know about George and anything he has to offer when it comes to hard-hitting news.
Just the US? With Putin, Xi (and even Thailand, according to this synopisis written). No, Dozer- it’s everywhere.
It’s gonna come down. HARD.
Durham will disappoint all of those who remain addicted to “hopium.”
It’s a boomer mentality that excuses people from never having to do anything. Durham will do it for me! One man against the system so I can stay at home.
What are you supposed to do otherwise?
Buy a pitchfork, learn how to use it, and then join up with other like-minded people who also have pitchforks.
Thank you!!
You mean like January 6?
We aren’t there yet,
Must wait until there are at least tens of millions ready and willing to pick up pitch forks then we be ready
Good question.
Notice how they never answer.
I want to say something very crass to you, but won’t because I realize it would please you. Insulting fellow Americans you do not know who are not a part of this incredibly convoluted problem is not very wise. It reveals your stupidity and why people would be wise to ignore you. Amirite?
I am a boomer… and have never once thought of not stirring the pot or taking action for what I believe… I have NEVER laid back on my laurels. I am not unique… there are millions just like me. I’ve seen them, met them and experienced them. Keep reading here on this site. SD has created a home for all like minded Patriots.. these are not people who sit back, make excuses and stay at home. These are truly honorable Patriots each contributing in their own unique way. Better open your eyes JS. Keep the faith. The day is coming…….
As long a Federal Reserve is captive within the U.S. Treasury we got a strong chance. If there is a PRIVATE encrypted currency our ancestors will ultimate lose all freedoms. BTW they wouldn’t be rolling this idiot out unless they were trying to stay in front of bad news
One other item. iIf Biden was in Charge he would have given the Federal Reserve independence again on day one of his presidency
If a Durham investigation team member is leaking information to the MSM, they would certainly try to get in front of upcoming bad news. I don’t believe Durham’s investigation is secure. The leaks just aren’t making it to the American public as usual.
“At this point, what difference does it make!”
Rhetorical, Figuratively, and Literally all warpped up in one big ball o’crap.
Props to SD and crew as usual, of course.
Your reliable persistent pursuit of the truth, continues to amaze and fascinate me Sundance!
I know of perhaps 3 maybe 4 analyts in my entire experience who have the dogged determination to continue working through the problem as you have.
And none of them even come close to the arc of information you are dealing with.
It inspires me to be perfectly clear. I see this kind of powerful focused effort and I am reminded that every time I even get that bad feeling no one is noticing, no one cares, and this will all get lost to the noise of the days that go by, HERE YOU ARE.
STANDING IN THE GAP.
I salute you.
I really appreciate what you are doing. it makes a difference.
You are the intellectual who has informed us of the reasons why we the people must not look away.
Every single time, you produce these high fidelity analytic works, I immediately share them with everyone I know and encourage them to send them to our representatives, at local, state and even congressional levels.
I am convinced this information WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE…if not by a legal remedy, then by a honest review that the everyday person in America (and around the world for that matter) can depend on, when the truth telling in America has gone the path of the dodo bird.
I pray for you daily. I pray that God uses you and continues to put you in his plan. I believe that God rewards those that tell the truth. That do not back down. That speak the truth and not hide it. I believe God has big plans for you. I pray for this. I pray for this because you have demonstrated an integrity to your form and purpose that commands respect.
Shine on!
God Bless America
Thank you for this magnificent tribute to my hero, Sundance.
You are right- there is nobody out there with his abilities, determination, perseverance and patriotism.
We are lucky to have him.
Sundance is truly an Einstein treasure. How he keeps on top of events and methodically links them together is sheer brilliance!
STEADFAST!
dutifully, with sacred honor!
Some say Sundance is an Einstein for his analysis. I say he is more of a damn “Rain Man”….lol
/K-mart sucks!
Sundance did the same thing with Benghazi. He wrote extensively about it and revealed much which wasn’t revealed otherwise. He is my hero.
Sundance is a National Treasure.
And Trayvon Martin. Way back in the day!
yes! that’s when I discovered CTH – amazing
Yes! That’s when I first started reading CTH. We get all the facts from Sundance.
I’m a history geek. Well, more specifically, I have a passion to understand the nuance, the quanta of what actually developed into reality. Reading history doesn’t cut it. UNDERSTANDING history is where you find the truths.
This is WHY I appreciate the superior work of Sundance.
I’m not hear to read news. I am hear to understand FACTS and what they mean and how they are connected and how they are not connected.
It would be unfair to simply describe Sundance as an investigative journalist.
He is a fact finder. He is an analyst. He is a examiner of fact. A detective/investigator. An interpretor of a rare language that comprises critical thinking, logic, reason, and trust.
And sundance isn’t taking on just any story either. He is taking on the stories that have awesome impact on the entire nation ! And I would add, it has significance to the entire planet of people! These are THE MOST IMPORTANT STORIES of our lifetimes. These are the stories that have no twin in our nation’s history.
And yet, you have the power of the one…who makes a decision: I WILL NOT LET THIS PASS.
and he recruits, and he delegates, and in record time has assembled the most powerful and effective team of patriot journalists and investigators who work tirelessly to make this work available to anyone who wants to know about it.
I was not thorough and complete with my commendation remarks above:
MODERATORS! Take a bow! You have earned my full and complete respect! You know who you are. I appreciate each and every one of you. That feeling you get when someone acknowledges you ….you know that feeling.
Well, today, yesterday and tomorrow and the next,,,,never ever forget that regitiger and his own clan understand your incredible value and we salute you too.
Keep it up….Make what ought to be, WHAT IS!
God Bless America
God Bless Conservative Tree House – The Last Refuge
Stunning. Still stunning.
Yeah but remember back when we thought this was the biggest scandal ever and now it is a grain of sand in a dune of scandals.
The one line in SD analysis that always identifies the real issue is those in government who see SD public info laid out in time line order is…Great but we don’t have badges”. More so when he did take his opus to the badges, he was grilled about his political affiliation.
The fact is no one has served any real punishment for fabricating lies against Trump nor false impeachment. Clinesmith just got his law license back and McCabe his pension. All others have moved on.
In politics, team lying is feature not a crime and the league will eventually make participants whole.
What makes the Covid conspiracy infuriating is political gamesmanship has impacted commoners lives. Federal and state legislators nulled our voice and placed Avatars in the top slots.showing us we on’t have a government for of and by the people.
The battle isn’t D or R but we against the fourth branch that has nulled separation of power and the purview of good governance.
I would urge anyone to respond to the obvious demoralization campaign with a fabulous, rousing round of “Let’s Go Brandon” . . .
McCabe and Clinesmith examples: they think that SHOULD be extremely demoralizing and get us to just “drop it” and “live with it.”
To me, it only spurs on the fight for “truth, justice and the American way” . . . it is actually MORE persuasive that there is so much more to the story and they have to be freaking out.
Ditto
All Durham has to do is read TCH.
SUNDANCE has done ALL the work!
I wish SUNDANCE had a badge.
Sundance has the badge of honor. That is the badge we need the most. Too many fakers out there!
He has the badge or Truth as well.
And stored up for him is a badge/crown of righteousness
Sundance also told us that our government had all the evidence but that it was siloed so that too many people knew particular items but very few, if any, have access to the whole picture. This is where the Patriot Act falls completely apart. The premise behind the Patriot Act was that pre-9/11 agencies knew a lot about what ISIS was up to but wouldn’t share the info with other agencies. This gave birth to the worst disaster (pre-CoVid) on American soil. Those in America who supported the ISIS caliphate used the Patriot Act to acquire knowledge from other government agencies all the while hiding their own knowledge. The marriage between ISIS and the CCP along with those in the shadow government is quickly and, thanks to a compliant media, quietly giving birth to a Socialist USA. It was their goal all along and our “Intel agencies” are the primary drivers of the programs designed to achieve this end (Brennan was an avowed Communist, Mueller and Comey-while not avowed Communists)! The globalists are alive and well and the Socialist, Communist conversion of our country began in the CIA! Explains a lot about the politics of the last 40 years, doesn’t it?
I struggle with the idea that there’s not a single person in a position of some authority to pursue everything in the roadmap Sundance has outlined.
Can no one connect with Admiral Rogers, General Flynn, etc and push this into the open for all to see and the perps to be punished?
Is the country truly that far gone?
Will there never be another fair and honest election?
I can’t reconcile that all these horrible things are happening under our noses with “nothing” being done about it aside preparing ourselves and children for a future of pain and turmoil.
“They” don’t want to connect the dots.
I keep reading things saying “it’s up to us” and “this is what the 2A was for” and I completely understand that. However, it’s hard to grasp that we go from President Trump in the whitehouse a few short months ago to a potential of needing 2A rights to stop tyranny in its tracks.
There’s seriously not some other possible stage between here and there?
Are there no law enforcement officers or others in position of authority, from anywhere domestically, on this site that could collaborate with others?
For example;
1) Sundance has outline what is believed to have taken place. Clearly and over a period of years.
2) Who can investigate/corroborate this further that’s in a position of authority? At any level, anywhere?
3) Connect them with Sundance, Admiral Rogers, General Flynn, etc to review, corroborate and strategize a plan for a remedy.
4) Wargame possible scenarios in the courts and other avenues to right the wrongs. If it has truly played out in the manner Sundance has outlined, it’s clearly an internal coup. That’s defined in law with specific punishments.
5) Push it far and wide, so everyone knows and it can’t be ignored. If there was ever momentum on “our side” to do this, it’s now. FJB, “Let’s Go Brandon”, Trump’s rally turnouts, the “polls” showing slipping approval and growing belief the election was stolen, etc.
6) Make it so big and unstoppable that the perpetrators get desperate and panic to try and save their own lives. The whole thing will fall apart. We are at that tipping point.
We need people in positions of authority on the “right side” of things to coalesce, become a powerful team and push this to a resolution.
There will be no free and fair elections without it.
There will be no positive future for many generations if it’s not fixed now.
It’s OUR generation and time to do something about this.
We need positions of authority rather than leaders to move this to the next meaningful phase.
new Lurker- RIGHT THE HELL ON!
Sundance gave it his best shot. All they do in DC is run out the clock until “At this point, what does it matter?”
A number of us “like minded” citizens need to figure out how to literally “stop the clock”…. and it needs to happen damn soon….just an old veterans thought.
These are the questions I imagine Mr. Durham and those on his team are wrestling with –
should they do the right thing, given the mob ready to jump all over them as enemies, perhaps domestic terrorists within the DOJ’s own ranks, should these officers of the law actually do their jobs to hold people accountable for their crimes- or
do they fold, bury everything and hope no one notices, maybe even move to have a certain website disappeared so anyone in the future digging for the truth will never discover their cowardice.
Sundance visited DC to see what he could do to get someone to put forth justice. If I understand it correctly, that’s when he learned that there were silos to keep those with enough power to do the right thing (if there is anybody there who would do the right thing) from getting the entire picture. I think he’s done all he can without making himself more of a target. JMHO.
“There is none so blind as those who will not see”. A very fitting definition of this phrase is
“….a foolish person has eyes so they can see what is physically there, but is unable to see wisdom, knowledge or truth”.
RINOS will remain as everyone else remains. They do so by rigged vote counting machines. For your information, it is an explanation as to what it is Biden/Harris are President and Vice President.
AGREE. This is totally frustrating to have Sundance lay out everything beyond a shadow of a doubt and yet nobody with POWER acts on it. What does that tell you?
It tells me if those in authority do not act then the people will. There are those, like me, who took the oath and are ready for new lurkers opening statement.
What do you mean?? It IS all in the open, you just read it here in the open internet. What we don’t have is the MSM megaphone. And until the media is owned by Constitutionalists, we never will
Agreed. It makes me even more suspicious of the “conservative” news stations (Fox, NewsMax, etc…) who seemingly refused to follow and report on the work of Sundance. If they truly give a damn about the Republic they would shine the spotlight even broader to the American people and blow the whistle on our fourth branch of government!
It has all been re-siloed right here by SUNDANCE.
On the Ham angle, I’ve seen at least one other Ham operator post, a couple years back, that such communication is by no means secure – and would be heard by hundreds if not thousands. That’s correct, if voice communication was used.
Long distance RF is sketchy – sometimes you can talk to someone in Russia like they were next door, but most days, you’ll be lucky to hear any such voices.
If you wanted to make it quite secure, you’d use “packet radio”. Think of it as a modem over radio. Just like any other modem, you can use it to transfer files, VoIP, etc. It was just getting started around 1990, and was never of much interest to me, but it wouldn’t be difficult to make that public data stream encrypted at connection setup/negotiation – just like any other modem negotiates speed and encryption details at connection setup. It’s quite plausible, and seemingly quite likely… even though utilizing encryption on amateur radio frequency bands is illegal, unless your a Dem/FIB.
Seems like the NSA should have a copy of that transmission. Just encrypted transmission between the two on Ham radio should be enough to infer illegal collusion.
Democrats don’t commit crimes according to our Federal Government which is 99% Democrats.
I think it unlikely the NSA would actually have a record of their transmissions. As a practical matter, while satellites can pick up spillover from UHF transmissions on Earth (HF and VHF is spotty due to ionospheric reflection and absorption), they cannot record ‘everything’ (same frequency used by multiple operators in different geographical locations). The NSA likely records targets of interest where the frequencies of operation are knowable in predictable locales. If they have it at all, it would be entirely accidental.
The licenses in question (if respected) are limited in operation to the highest HF frequencies for voice communication and restricted power levels. The VHF and UHF privileges are given to this lowest tier of license because the ‘damage’ that can be caused by misuse is local rather than international in nature – VHF and UHF communications are generally line-of-sight communication bands.
Mrs. Ohr was likely using UHF frequencies, where low power transmissions with directional antennas would minimize the probablity of intercept. If the location of communication was choosen to prevent the spillover of the signal (in a valley), two conspirators could communicate from different parking lots of stores in a valley that would be unlikely to be monitored. Someone monitoring the communication would have to be aware of the the conspiracy to position themselves to intercept the communication. Prior mining of the FCC database for the presence of other hams living in the area would inform the conspirators to the likelyhood of intercept by anyone aside from state actors. additionally, the changeover to encryted digital communcations by police and emergency services has dimished the numbers of scanner enthusists that might have also intercepted the communications (assuming it was by voice).
The conspirators might even create an alibi by letting computers do the communicating while they are visibly elsewhere. Having the license is likely to explain the presence of antennas and radio equipment if found by the police or other agencies.
Someone listening is really not a problem as the “listeners” were all in on the scam.
When this was a hot topic at the Treehouse, didn’t we establish that Nellie did NOT have a license?
This is the most likely scenario. Add in some simple ciphers and switch up the frequencies used and the timing of the messages and only the most determined, state backed operators would have found them out. And if they did, they wouldn’t have cared.
What if the use of the ham radio was just basically to transmit yes/no/dates/meeting times
Who Nellie was talking to, Joffe, may be the most fun nugget to come out of this latest reveal. Only took… how many years? Good grief! Who says there are no secrets in Washington? There are when they want them secret, that’s for sure.
You could go old fashion and use code books. Very secure if you never use the same number for the same word.
I am not a HAM. I think her comms had a limited range, about 20 miles. When it was discovered she had an amateur license I recall determining Halper’s home is within range of Ohr’s, about 11 miles. I don’t know where Joffe’s home is but Neustar is about 10 miles from Ohr’s home, FWIW.
Fabricating false evidence and illegal, international election interference. Why isn’t this spook arrested and held in Guantanamo?
There was Staph-ennoculous in his cardigan and spectacles–made me laugh. Such a faker. Then Steele with his hands between his legs. Feeling exposed much? Federal Kabuki Theatre rides again.
Why isn’t HRC even asked about any of this ever?
She still goes out and does public appearances as though she won in 2016.
Can’t wait for good old Adam Shitz to start his bull-stz. Bunch of damn wack-ooos. The Russians are coming the Russians are coming please
By the rules of academic research, journalism and apparently intelligence, if A and B cite C, that gives you 3 sources, not the actual 1.
Especially when A and C are the same person and B works for A/C!
Tom Sowell wrote a column about finding a very dubious claim in an academic paper, but the author cited 9 sources in his footnotes.
Sowell remained doubtful, so he checked the footnotes, one by one. It turned out the sources in reality were one study with shoddy methodology, and 8 other papers citing that same study. The author turned 1 source into 9 (no bread and fishes?).
The FBI, in their FISA application for Carter Page, cited Steele as a source, and Michael Isikoff as a source for quoting Steele. By FBI math, that was two different sources!
if you were trying to create a spreadsheet such as in Excel, I think you would get an ERR for circular logic – an illegal operation, so to speak
“circle back”
that’s their idea of “research” or “fact checking”
Hey, Sundance, are locked out of your twitter account? I haven’t seen you post there for many days.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/10/16/if-i-wasnt-blacklisted-on-twitter-i-would-share-this-to-help-people-understand-the-supply-chain-backlog/
Isn’t the time-out period almost over?
I think the title of this thread will give you a hint. 🙂
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/10/16/if-i-wasnt-blacklisted-on-twitter-i-would-share-this-to-help-people-understand-the-supply-chain-backlog/
The plotters’ mistake was using a Russian oligarch. Our own oligarchs are less honorable and would have fabricated whatever story they wanted.
I don’t see a thread reader for this.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1449841952808218632.html is this what you are looking for?
FBI raided many homes.
Steele as foreign agent did not happen.
Which was his purpose all along.
But there are others who should have, Simpson, Ohr, Comey safe etc.
Why weren’t they?
Was obama allowed to issue “classified”pardons ?
That could explain why a lot of folks are walking around free.
I think another reason Steele sticks to his story is that Hillary can’t let the story go…and we never contradict Hillary…do we?
Steele is UK intel. His biz partner, Andrew Wood also is UK intel and is a member of the “Integrity Initiative”. The Integrity Initiative is run from the highest level of UK intel, one of it’s goals was to target Trump.
Like I’ve said a hundred times before on these comment pages, you know you have to wonder about how thorough an investigation is being conducted when the chief investigator asks you as his first question, “How did you find me?”.
? If only we could get the ? New York art dealer Michael Cohen to ?⚖️ sue (somebody – pick one – for something – who cares), then we could force some ? discovery maybe.
I heard he is repping Hunter B.
The thing that struck me most in this article was that the FBI, which conducts domestic counter-intelligence operations, was involved in an overseas operation to free an American in Iran. That type of operation seems to be me to be more logically a concern of the CIA.
I also find it striking that the FBI would approach a Russian oligarch – an individual almost certainly connected to Putin and Russian Intelligence – looking to obtain financing and “operational support” for their operation. If we assume it’s legal and normal for the FBI to be involved in overseas operations (and I am not assuming that) why wouldn’t operational support come from CIA and financing be from the FBI budget?
One of the points Michael Flynn made in his interview with Tucker Carlson was that any differences between any of these intelligence agencies is not only not blurred but, in fact does not exist at all. They are all the same and operate singly or together as ordered. There are no lines separating any of them from each other operationally. Information, as Sundance points out, is still kept in silos so that often one team does not know what another team is doing. This is intentional and helps provide deniability and to help avoid accountability. There is typical bureaucratic infighting or turf battles due to ambition and funding but, they all do whatever they need to do on behalf of the deep state actors calling the shots. You seem to think some kind of wall exists between domestic and international focuses of agencies that disappeared a long time ago in practice and since 9/11 in law as well.
Thank you for that clarification. I’m still wondering about the FBI looking for financial backing on an operation from a Russian oligarch, however – or the FBI looking for any outside funding for any purpose. Is that legal?
the aspect of outside funding is to expedite an operation and avoid scrutiny…the money and the effort can be explained as non fbi ! It also works to exploit and blackmail leverage outsiders to. The dark secret about developing “assets” is that it can be used against them.
exhibit a: carter page. And speaking of which: where is our naval academy grad these days and what’s he up to?
where the silos exist is to prevent outsides from review.
internally, among the corruptors, you better believe every single aspect and details of their crimes are shared.
the evidence of this truth is the reality that such efforts required depend on multiple agencies, people, assets, and resources. You can’t pull off a conspiracy without exchanging key essential details.
even now, there must still be some kind of exchange of this black hole info. Otherwise, how are they coordinating the coverup with such precision?
again, the silos are not to be explained as “few good men” unknowingly unwittingly committing crimes. No, there is first an institutionalized corruption…and then the explicit and overt coordination or coup members who utilized this institutionalized corrupt regime…their own private set police spy state.
I think of it as 4 environments.
the one we would like it to be, that it should be. This does not exist.
the one that they create for a public facing veneer. this one does exist.
the one that they have created that is used to fulfill covert, unlawful, corrupt operations…this one does exist.
the one they create as a contingency when the truth or a leak finds it way out…this one exists to extinguish any legal evidence that might cause members to be worried the covert environment is compromised or individuals might be implicated.
“word”-smith (type, cline) escaped the covert domain and thus a contingency environment was developed…he was allowed to plead down. McCabe escaped the covert domain and thus a contigency environment was developed. he was restored to full priviledges.
at each turn when exposure happens, you can count on at least two things happening:
the corruptors will race to the press to present “first” impression…the narratives to conclude the news cycle. Plant the info out in the public also to advertise to everyone in the loop, they are committed to insuring no damage happens. Without this press move, insiders might be worried. So no matter how big or small, there is constant effort made to keep “morale up”….you really have to consider how this operates for them.
the other thing they do, also long patterns and trends: they lose material on purpose to end any possibility of a full investigation. Or they create or re-create records retroactively for the same purpose.
the problem here, of course, is very clear: in the United Stated of America, we have unelected people with powers so incredible and unchecked, they can do and have done anything they want to anyone at any time for any reason, with zero consequences.
That kind of power must be stopped. No man or agency or government should ever have that kind of control and power. The ONLY person in the United States who should ever have anything close to that kind of power, is the President Of the United States, the Commander in Chief. And even then, there must be limits. After all, we are not a kingdom. This is America where controlled power and a limited government with solid check and balances on power is essential to prevent lawlessness and tyranny.
and yet…here we are.
perhaps it wasn’t in the budget? I mean, it was to provide “plausible deniability” for all involved at the top, FBI and CIA, that they did not know about this should the mission fail.
Disney’s ABC subsidiary hired George Stephanopolous to bash all Republicans 24/7 365 days/year and George has delivered. Someone should ask Disney’s Board of Directors why the obvious extreme bias.
Because Disney is a multi-national corporation that seeks preferential treatment from the federal government and wants to do business with China. Disney’s goals are enabled by a compliant political class in Washington, i.e., the Uniparty.
This is why they oppose Trump with all of their might: he threatens their financial ambitions.
Disney always employs POSs. POSs like Disney producer Jack Morrissey? Oh, yeah. He’s the guy who wanted MAGA kids put head first through woodchippers. Yep:
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/disney-employs-producer-who-wanted-to-put-kids-through-woodchipper/
Could this interview be all that’s needed by the corrupt FBI, to validate it as evidence to get a FISA warrant in yet another investigation into Trump in the event runs in 2024. Great fodder for the media propagandists.
I find it interesting that the news actors like (George Stephanopoulos) former Clinton acolyte, dedicated swamp rat see it important at this late date to interview Christopher Steele. No matter what Durham does or doesn’t do going forward the Sussman indictment seems to has rung an alarm bell in the swamp.
To me, this again is a tell as to where the conversations around the water cooler at swamp central are about. There seems to be some concerns, hmmm…
Like others have said, CTH has known and documented the uniparty criminality chapter and verse. “If” Durham does his job this will ensnare many swamp rats, this would explain George’s attempt at the rehabilitation of Steele.
He’s pushing his Hulu show…
and buzzfeed, and mother jones.
it also implicates the “intelligence assessment”
and also implicates the assasination of seth rich.
it also exposes the reasons why USG and many officials cannot allow assange out of a UK prison.
We really need to activate the yardarm of the USS Constitution…
Our Government Intelligence agencies are corrupt beyond measure. All this work against a candidate for President. Trump had to be stopped. He actually was running to make America great again and he meant it. The FBI,Justice, the CIA are the lowest scum followed closely by the scum politician Biden and all his cohorts who are working to sell this country out.
and don’t forget the Bushes!
Question: What’s the purpose of mentioning that both Ohr and Joffe have amateur radio licenses? (Ohr has the most basic of licenses and can’t even use most of the frequency spectrum that Joffe can with his Extra-class ticket, unless they’re using Morse code on a very small piece of a couple of bands.)
Just sounds like some correlation that amounts to white noise, a distractor.
I think both having access to an unusual method of communication is a piece of the puzzle obviously. It may fit in somewhere later but I don’t see the problem having it out there.
That they could talk to each other over a medium that everyone can listen to, with a callsign that ID’s who they are? Ohr licensed in 2016; Joffe for a very long time. (And he has to be a dedicated hobbyist, it’s some serious work to get that rating.) Maybe when he’s in DC it’s their means to coordinate “let’s do lunch” w/o a social media trail.
This is just my filter working. I spent some years working incidents where it was important to sift chaff from grain in terms of information flood coming into an EOC. Right now this is chaff.
Ohr wouldn’t have had the skills to use non voice data transmission without dedicated instruction from a mentor. If there is a connection, it was likely Joffe sending Ohr packet data. Technician class operators can use packet transmission. It’s nearly impossible that anyone would have noticed that computer based transmission was encrypted.
There is an internet based ham application that can even be used on cell phones. Still “public”, but you could drop into McDonald’s, hit up the wifi, transmit a data using code words and/or encryption, and transmit info without leaving an email trace or post office envelope scan. Virtually no chance for being found out.
the woman’s hubby (wife?) is in the national security division, FBI. You don’t imagine nellie had dinner guests over? perhaps even some “security detail” assigned?
Why is Steele being interviewed now?
To blunt a Durham revelation?
To protect the media in case it’s exposed that Steelle lied?
They are running out of s**t to throw at us.
Right? This interview is so 2018 … lol
There is still a huge group of the TDS crowd that believe his BS. This feeds that beast.
As things decline for the current regime, any bone they can throw at the TDS believers to to keep the delusion alive is a win.
I’m still appalled at the number of people that don’t know it was all a frame up.
it accomplishes a “clean up”…a prophylaxix to the coming pathogen that just might cause problems: sunlight, perhaps even in a court room!
that’s the half full view.
the half empty view is bitter: durham has already concluded his investigation and we just don’t know it yet…show’s over everyone go home, but before we snap the lights out, can someone do cleanup on isle 5..we have that steele “origin” story that needs some bleach.
In this way, when we “read” the durham “report”…this presser serves as the narrative that “explains” how durham arrived at nothing to see here, just some bad assumption coupled MAYBE with a single attorney lying to the FBI.
It’s a form of false evidence, and should be a crime what they are doing.
In fact, if a legitimate genuine prosecutor were to prosecute steele, he would likely recommend the highest penalty PLUS for the aggravating nature of the crime, being steele not only continued to hide the conspiracy, but continued to lie about it in a very public venue. In a fair justice world (we don’t live in that one), a judge would likely consider these kinds of interviews and accept the higher sentencing guidelines too.
but here we are, where real thugs and criminals not only get away with their crimes, but literally continue to be criminals on national tv!
Here is a British article within 24 hours of the release of the dossier existence (01/13/2017). You can use it for a baseline and see the “spin” used to create The Crown Corporation’s false narrative. City of London is a landlocked Pirate Ship. We need to blow them to Hell and back
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4118540/Now-spy-DEFENDS-dirty-dossier-Ex-MI6-man-Chris-Steele-says-research-uncovered-hair-raising-allegations-against-Donald-Trump-insists-story-come-out.html
And George was COS for RAPISTS BILL CLINTON
This interview is only to put Trump back in the spotlight
FJB
As always there is an ulterior motive for the ruling Junta to revive this crazy story that has been thoroughly debunked by even their own people.
Think about it. Why bring this stuff up now when it is water under the bridge and few if anyone even cares anymore?
If anyone else besides Sundance had written about this, I wouldn’t have bothered reading it and I am an admitted political junkie.
The simplest explanation is often the best. The Bidenistas are running out of ammunition.
They had to be desperate to try and promote this dreck. Who even gives a rat’s ass about this creep Steele and his phony pee tapes?
Whoever is trying to revive this fake scandal is a moron who should lose their job!
Do they honestly think that THIS is going to distract the PEOPLE who are losing their LIVES, their jobs and everything else??
This actually makes me feel good for a change.
To see just how stupid these miserable bastards really are and how much they underestimate us.
F*** JOE BIDEN FOREVER.
Yes, Yes.
I have a great amount of optimism now because the leftist of both parties are in a free fall collapse. People are turning on them like never before, yet the impose increasing stupidity on the nation.
What tempers my optimism is lack of drastic election reform in the red swing states and the president’s power to sign a surrender.
it is done, because the imagery and disgust invoked by the p story is effective. it isn’t true, but it doesn’t matter. It’s the perception that POTUS is some sicko.
As to whether they have run out of ammunition, I disagree.
BY NATURE, evil corruptors never run out of vile manufactured slander and allegations of crimes.
They chose this one because it’s a two-fer. It keeps the animation of speculation alive with a absolutely repugnant emotional response they know is created, AND it keeps steele protected by installing a veneer of authenticity.
If Durham is as good as some people claim him to be (I am not among them, for lots of reasons, all based on his history), he would be capable of tearing apart this entire steele dossier with about 2 days of hard work …the evidence is already there and well established it is not credible, and was manufactured.
When Durham indicts Steele, requests the state department begin extradition orders between the US and UK for a formal grand jury hearing, let me know. Until then, this interview stands to perform the same “magic” all over again for the corruptors. The continued assault on an innocent man, who was duly elected as President. TWICE!
Durham has no incentive to expose all this unless he wants to wind up like Vince Foster.
You do remember where the younger attorney that squashed the Independent Council’s investigation into Foster ended up?
The lying liar Steele lies about it all, trying to make it plausible with his “perfectly spoken” proper English accent but absolutely no real evidence. This liar needs to be locked up and the key thrown away.
Some of us Anglo-Americans by ethnicity really, really do NOT like British accents. That accent sounds like “overlords” to us. No offense meant at all to any British Treepers. It’s purely historical bias on our part. Kinda like many of you all don’t like American accents “overpaid, oversexed and over here!”
We’re circling the drain, trying to explain the Deep State “slow train” coup, of President Trump, which is futile, while the Deep State retains all the levers of power.
The global elite are playing By Any Means Necessary, as we wander around looking for a crosswalk cop for help. That crosswalk cop is Durham and he’ll be about as useful as Neocon Bill Krystol, helping fix your tire.
Forget the audits that recount ballots.
The media has cemented their narrative, that any claim of election fraud in the 2020 Presidential election is “A BIG LIE.”
Our sole easily provable counter-narrative to “The Big Lie” lie, is what Zuckerberg was ordered to do. Bloomberg-Soros types, had him drop a half billion dollars, of his Silicon funny-money, into the actual state election apparatus — primarily in key swing state corrupt-incompetent inner cities — to run the Dem “get out the vote” operation ruthlessly & efficiently, from INSIDE the state election system.
Provable, simple, end of argument.
Problem is, even if any of Z’s activities were illegal, there is no one to prosecute him, not State AGs nor the Feds. The only solution is to make sure it can’t happen again. But how?
Legislation by state forbidding it.
Paper ballots, no machines. Should have already been done in every Red State.
Except that more people believe there was election fraud than not. And that number is growing.
“Trump’s popularity, his power in the Republican party has grown since he left office. It has not shrunk,”
Bob Woodward,
Celebrated Democrat
Literary Icon
October 12, 2021
Donald Trump was supposed to go away and he isn’t and the left is realizing his influence among the real GOP base (and Americans in general) has only increased since the stolen election and coup . . . . . and they don’t know what else to do other than circle back to where they were five years ago like a dog returning to its own vomit.
Hey, authoritarian globalist totalitarians, didn’t you ever see the first Star Wars movie back in 1977? The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers. We are Americans, not slaves. Now pi$$ on off, baby Stalins, before we really get mad.
The funny or telling part “they” have the most popular president in the history of the USA, B-B-B-Biden, all he needs to do is rally his acolytes with counter rallies. They would be massive? /s
Thousands of Americans would show up and chant FJB. Another analogy I like is it would be more like Frankenstein being chased down by the villagers with torches & pitchforks.
And as PDJT pointed out a short while back, he has still not conceded the election.
He needs to keep repeating that. Mores so than the cheat. It’s what drives the conmunist demoncrats crazy.
This interview just looks like a distraction away from, “Let’s Go Brandon“.
NAILED it.
All roads lead to Rome….or, in this instance, to Hillary Clinton.
I have looked for the Jim Sciutto’s original CNN video report releasing the dossier on 01/12/2017 and cannot find it. That in itself is curious. Will try again tonight when i have more time.
This, although there may be others.
Thanks. 11 minutes worth of Bull. All these buttholes work for CIA
Wonder why CNN didn’t include these August 2016 notes from CIA director John Brennan’s meeting with Obama about Hilary’s Russian hoax?
https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/10/cia-memo-brennan-briefed-obama-on-hillarys-alleged-plan-to-stir-up-trump-russia-scandal-before-2016-election/
Here we go … cue Hannnity …. Tick ….then one of his Shakespearen length monologues , I mean questions , ..Toc….k….and ….that’s it I’m afraid
he hung drywall
washed dishes
his mom was a prison guard
so i think this post by Sundance would work as a great starting point to introduce someone new to the CTH. It is an excellent recap and has links to important stories along the way. I suppose I happen to be one of those Hopium guys, so I think the peanut butter is about to hit the fan.
This post can show new folks interested in 2016 election fraud what the nexus is.
Here is where the dossier is rolled out the general public. I cannot find a stand alone video, so you would have to click the CNN link
https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/donald-trump-intelligence-report-russia/index.html
Who recommended Paul Manafort to then-candidate Donald Trump?
Ahhhhhhh, the purpose and intent of Nellie’s HAM license. Thanks Sundance you’re an amazing woman.
Hmmm –
After reading this a couple times, and going back and reviewing,
this ==>> https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2020/08/22/my-discussion-with-john-durhams-lead-investigator-william-aldenberg/
Am wondering to myself exactly who/what is doing the asking?
Sundance’ opening line, “I have been asked to outline why………”
ganesh
(If you cannot stand to listen to Stephie, yahoo presents a glammed up transcript – https://www.yahoo.com/gma/shadows-christopher-steele-defiant-dossier-091329873.html)
And considering the documentary was only “released” today, very timely in the asking.
I think all of these stories come from a Hunter Biden laptop and were projected upon DJT. 🙂
Lazy, unimaginative, and evil. Typical bureaucratic qualities. And also”democratic socialists” but, I repeat myself.
Thanks for all you do! I wish I could contribute more!
Sundance research reveals schemes within schemes, plans within plans; layers of deceit, sedition and all out treason. Meanwhile our corrupt bureaucracies, politicians and courts pursue citizens who dare to push back. In all my years, I have never witnessed a more compelling reason(s) for recalibrating Congress.
Anastasia baby….come to your Daddy! Youve been a very bad girl and need to be punished.
When I first heard the thing about “pee tapes,” I thought to myself: “oh, you’ve GOT to be kidding me.” That’s something straight out of fourth grade … ?
I agree and these are TPTB. Brennan, Comey, McCabe, Strok, Steele… idiots given the levers of power over the American people. In Steele’s case, the means to help those manning the levers.
Sanctimonious and self-serving jerks with God complexes.
When this ship gets righted it will not be pretty for them.
Eggzactly!!!!!!!!!!!!! especially since POTUS was/is a well known germaphobe..that made up choice of scenario was beyond stupid.
there you go, Annie – see, it was so ridiculous – WHO are these people?
I know! I remember when hearing about that news when it came out – so absurd – in the first place, Donald Trump is a notorious germaphobe!
I believe I read in one of your articles at the time that those contractors were cut off from their ability to trace movements of names when Adm. Rogers stopped all the 701/702 queries and followed the wrong Cohen to Prague.
Thank you for keeping me focused on the truth beyond the headlines for the past 7 years and let you know you are in my prayers daily.
“Collusion against Trump” timelineBy Sharyl Attkinson
https://sharylattkisson.com/2020/05/collusion-against-trump-timeline/
I would call it the “Pee-Pee tape”. The “Pee tape” gives it too much dignity. Just imagine if “pee-pee tape” was used every time by every reporter doing an interview on the subject.
What would they call it if the satanic Democrat Podesta Bros who were also lobbying in Ukraine got Golden Showered?
ah yes, “Golden Showers” – good Lord, do they lay awake at night looking at the shadows on the ceiling and come up with this stuff – these people are supposed to be looking out for our national security!
yes, I agree – “pee-pee tape” would be the correct term
What a bunch of IMMATURE so-called people!! In the long run you all will pay the price for conjuring up a LIE for money. I hope everyone of these idiotic, immature, haters GET CAUGHT and PROSECUTED for acting like a bunch of spoiled kids and spend the rest of their life in HELL! My question is, What has President Trump EVER done to all of you? Become WAY MORE SUCCESSFUL? PLEASE GROW THE HELL UP!!!
Bitter, bitter clinger. Very much like his boss… the Hill-Da-Beast.
This is just more in your face propaganda from the new world order clan.
Who owns the world…………