[NOTE: For those reading from Capitol Hill, take action immediately. Do not let Ratcliffe and Grenell attempt to fight the corrupt intelligence community from the outside.]
Earlier today Joint Chiefs Chairman, General Mark Milley, again claimed that intelligence was gathered and given to him showing that China was fearful of an imminent attack from the United States prior to Milley’s phone call with Chinese military to assure them the U.S. was not about to attack. This is the same claim that General Milley made yesterday [LINK] about the same issue. WATCH video at 08:52 Prompted:
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Immediately after this repeated claim, former Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe directly refuted Milley on Fox News with Martha MacCallum. The intelligence products used by the Pentagon come from the DNI office, and John Ratcliffe noted there was no intelligence that China held any such concerns. As a result, any justification claim that Milley makes about his motives for the call surrounding “deescalation” are nonsense.
The Chinese did not escalate an issue because the issue did not exist. The Chinese were not worried the U.S. was going to attack. General Milley’s claims are based on a false premise. The question is, did another intelligence agency purposefully lie to Milley, or is Milley making it all up?
If you and I were sitting on a park bench doing nothing, there would be no concerns. However, if you sat down and I said, “I’m not going to hit you“, suddenly you would become concerned. That is the essential outlook for what appears to have taken place.
The intelligence apparatus of the United States created a completely false assertion, false intelligence; and then Milley acted unilaterally based on that false assertion. Keeping in mind that DNI Ratcliffe is very adamant there never was any such intelligence.
♦ If General Milley was that easily manipulated by the intelligence community, most likely the CIA, it doesn’t speak well for his own judgement and discernment considering he is the chief pentagon advisor to the President.
♦ If General Milley was willing to be manipulated by the CIA, and act upon intelligence he knew or suspected to be false, well, then he’s a conspirator within a purposeful effort to undermine the Office of the President and U.S. foreign policy.
Neither of these two scenarios is good; and they both present evidence of a superseding Fourth Branch of Government, operated by a rogue and Machiavellian intelligence community.
As John Ratcliffe noted in his rebuke of General Mark Milley’s justification, if the claim of legitimate intelligence was true, someone would have briefed President Trump about it. No-one from the office of the Director of National Intelligence, or the DoD, or the National Security Council ever saw any evidence that anything like what Milley is claiming actually existed.
The false intelligence that underpins the Milley phone call with China could be the thread that exposes the hidden Fourth Branch of government. If congressional representatives and honest independent media are willing to pull it and not let go.
Wasn’t the Flynn phone call to Russian counterparts similar in that the objective was to calm the fears of a rival?
EXCEPT Flynn was doing damage control on a REAL threat since barry soetero expelled the Russian diplomats.
Milley’s call was based on false info, whether he was complicit or not remains to be seen.
What happened to Flynn over that phone call?
Two sets of rules …
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Ir’s worse. Flynn wasn’t purporting to represent the military. He was Trump’s National Security Advisor, actually doing what his job required.
Something wrong here. Makes me mad! General Flynn is what the American people needed. I think maybe, Pence, are you honest? I don’t know. I have doubts. You started this mr. Vice president. Come clean.
It will be a cold day in you know where when that squish comes clean. Total surprise when President Trump selected him and total disappointment as VP. My suspicion has always been Pence was a “gift” to gain RNC support like GHW Bush was to President Reagan. I am sure he will not be part of a second Trump Presidency.
Yes loss of General Flynn was a blow to the Trump administration.
Sigh… in hindsight, even at the time, I thought that “skit” was part of the Trump Sting Op. Sorry. Guess I am a conspiracy theorist. ? (hanging my head in shame).
At the time, I thought the entire skit was ridiculous. Just correct the record. Simple. Why did Pence even bother to interview with CNN or whichever left media it was? So what, you misspoke. Not a big deal. Just correct the record and move on.
It was a dumb, frivolous reason to fire Flynn… and thus, IMO, fake. Trump knew he had few surrounding him that he really could trust. Flynn was one of them. How trustworthy did Flynn’s replacements turn out to be? Not very.
And … as expected… the left media bought it hook, line & sinker because the left ARE stupid. They are so extreme in their views that they cannot think logically honorably or justly. It’s like they are all a bunch of sociopaths with no moral compass. Of course, they bought that stupid reason for firing Flynn… and Trump knew they would.
Many times I have to reverse a situation when trying to explain something to a Dem. I have to make the R the bad guy. Identical scenario only the R is doing it to the Dem instead of the Dem doing it to the R.
In my experience, Dems consistently cannot see injustice … unless it’s being done to them. THEN they scream bloody murder… and see the grave injustice of it all… but only if it’s done to them.
Pence is the one that MADE it a big public deal… by … pushing Trump to fire Flynn… which should have been a “red flag” to Trump about … Pence’s loyalty to the far more important MAGA agenda. In real life, Trump would have just told Pence to get over himself. We have a mission to accomplish.
Why did Trump fire Flynn for what was, in fact, a very frivolous reason? For 5 years I had my own ideas re: why Trump fired Flynn. While those views should have changed in light of all that’s happened since then, they really haven’t changed. Flynn was loyal to Trump long before Pence was… and it appears now that Pence never was loyal… or so it DOES appear on the surface. I just don’t know.
Yes and Flynn’s Russian counterpart called him bc the Obama admin was creating another cold war w/Russia in the final weeks of that outgoing admin. What Flynn told his Russian counterpart was merely to … hold off taking any action. Just let us get in there and see what’s going on. The right thing to say.
Flynn wasnt telling enemies that he will warn them of a strike against them.
The transcripts show that the word “sanctions” was never used in the Flynn phone call.
Milley Cyrus and the other cliwns with stars make the Union Army officers at First Bull Run look like Patton.
I want to challenge you but I can’t!
Excellent point.
I laughed when I read Sundance’s analogy of a stranger sitting down on a park bench with you and saying: “don’t worry I’m not going to punch you.” ? In other words, “don’t worry, China, we’re not going to nuke you.”
When a stranger sits on a bench next to you- w/proper distance- we really don’t notice or feel threatened… but if that person were to say … I’m not going to punch you in the face… most of us would look at the person and get up and walk away… bc it was nuts for the person to say that at all.
Same re: what Milley did. And really Milley put the nation in danger… b/c that uncalled for stmt would naturally alarm the Chinese… just like we would be alarmed by the stmt of the stranger who sat down beside us on a park bench.
Of course he was complicit, at the very least for if he weren’t, he would have discussed this with THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
What? You bought that bull shit he tried to sell? Think of it. Our primary adversary, both militarily and economically, OUR ENEMY, actually, is said to think we are going to attack, and the head military advisor to POTUS never even discusses this situation with POTUS?
As an infamous person once –or a thousand times has said….”COME ON, MAN!”
If this idiot warned China about an imminent US nuclear strike, would the Chinese have said “Thank you” and hid in their bunkers? Or would they launch a first strike? This man was facilitating a nuclear first strike on the US. He’s either the dumbest creature who ever walked the earth or he’s the worst traitor in world history.
he could be extremely stupid
and
a traitor
That’s a BINGO!
Correct. No matter how “sincere” or how long he knew his counterpart, a reasonably intelligent PRC general would become more paranoid, not less, due to Milley’s call.
Chairman Xi-“Heh Joe we won’t be attacking Taiwan even though our planes and ships are moving toward it.
Joe: “Great thanks for telling me old buddy.”
There is a recording and transcript if Milley’s actual call.
More importantly where is the Intelligence reports he relied Upon? Their source?
That was my thought. Why hasn’t anyone asked him specifically, who gave you this intell? Then validate that as truth or fiction…
No reason he can’t be both. Keep an open mind.
I don’t think he’s stupid. He lacks honor, duty, Patriotism, and integrity, but not intelligence.
That’s the REAL danger.
Your very good questions prove the point that this Milley call to the Chinese was simply another setup; in other words something that was pre-arranged by the CIA and China in which Milley was a knowing participant. (Russia, I can guarantee, was also a knowing participant in the Russia Hoax–they needed Trump like a hole in the head)
What are the chances that Milley would inform just about everyone about the call except that one person (the President) who needed to know it the most, that is to say: IF THIS WERE A LEGITIMATE CALL ON SO VERY SERIOUS AN ISSUE AS A NUCLEAR STRIKE EMPERILLING THE ENTIRE NATION? The answer is that those probabilities are nil, even for Milley!
Milley was, once again, acting in connivance with his woke cabal, setting up the President because Milley knew that he could never actually meet with him about a phony intelligence report because the actual reports are on the President’s desk throughout the day, and the President receives continuous briefings from his staff, as well as all printed copies of telephone convos with foreign leaders and none of his staff spoke to him about this Milley call, nor such intelligence reports.
Again, the DC process is always the same: create a false narrative based on unverifiable third-party information and watch your target’s poll favorability descend with all the cascading rubble; or so you hope.
Someone has to question Milley on these glaring, logistical improbabilities.
Of course, he says that he has all the documentation, and I don’t doubt it. What can’t be explained, however, and what surely indicates that the Milley call was subterfuge and a setup is the fact that he told everyone but the President. How do you talk to a president who hasn’t received the same intelligence report you purport to have received?
He was asked today to provide that “intelligence.” The GOP rep was pretty incredulous that such intelligence existed. Milley said he would provide. Likely fake “intelligence”
a a suggested above.
Maybe Milley got the intelligence from Pelosi.
Was Milley ever asked what his discussions with Pelosi entailed (in either session)?
I remember someone bringing another direction up about Milleys phone call. Jan. 8, 2 days after the fake insurrection. The nuclear stuff just doesn’t make sense. More like pelosi patting herself on the back and using milley to let the Chinese know that the greatest election theft was accomplished and not much President Trump could do about it. Pelosi= pure evil
Porklosi = Domestic Terroist
i believe ..pe losi should be put on hot seat … preferably -piping hot ?????
Ex post facto “intelligence”. If I were a betting man, I’d bet Milley made it all up.
I believe you’re right. He couldn’t be THAT stupid!
It’s one thing to do something like this – horrible and perplexing as it is – and another thing to talk about it to a reporter who obviously will share with the world.
This guy has no judgement – he’s not fit for his position by any number of criteria.
“China was fearful of an imminent attack from the United States.”
Yawn…. nuke armed states do not “imminently attack” each other. Except by war via proxies.
MAD ensures that.
But I suppose it keeps the General and DoD off the streets and out of the strip clubs while they’re writing useless papers on the subject.
If China conquers the US it will be via corrupting the Admin State and demoralising the middle / working class, exporting manufacturing industry is how it started.
This guy is a liar, his entire speech was goofus, extraordinar baked in the head bullshit.
Milkey is clumsy and not good at this I’ve been seeing it for a while. Sundance is right…either Milley is lying about the intel or the IC has created a threat from whole cloth and fed the lie to the chairman of the joint chiefs. If so we now have a fresh and easy to follow trail of white in the IC did this and where is the intel supporting it? It wont take much to expose either Milley or the IC in this case but the will to do it must be there. No more strongly worded letters just get it done!
They’d trust him to do as they “suggest” as he was known as anti-Trump.
I recommend people watch (or rewatch) the Kirk Douglas/Burt Lancaster movie “Seven Days in May.”
Or Dr. Strangelove.
“War is too important to be left to politicians. They have neither the time, the training, nor the inclination for strategic thought.”— General Jack D. Ripper
I doubt there was false intelligence. Oh, I am sure there could be found some tidbits in the reports that a veteran Swamp dweller would be able to misconstrue and use as a justification for every treasonous act (they are all true masters of creative misrepresentation in DC).
Milley just made it up to cover his ass. I don’t believe for a split second he was misled. He also knows that nothing will happen to him as long as he publicly presented the flimsiest excuse for his actions against the OrangeManBad.
The CCP probably has excellent intelligence on what a dumb f**k Milley is. If it was General George Patton calling the Chinese and telling them not to worry, China would have attempted a first strike.
if we had george pattonS, china would never have had the ability to sneeze without our express permission.
— The false intelligence that underpins the Milley phone call with China could be the thread that exposes the hidden Fourth Branch of government. If congressional representatives and honest independent media are willing to pull it and not let go. —
I think about evidence, DC, congress, and my mind turns to silos.
But, this specific situation is under far greater sunlight than the siloed Spygate realities.
Maybe this one will grow a set of legs.
Hope Springs eternal.
Liz Cheney is a huge Milley fan. She just can’t praise him enough. What an absolutely hideous woman.
https://therightscoop.com/facepalm-liz-cheney-praises-milley-for-jan-6th-at-afghanistan-hearing-and-then-some/
She is a disgrace. Actually she’s dumb as dirt. She’s trying to look good on tv. You and all the rino politicians need to get out the way. All of your kind. You don’t love America. We know what you are.
McCarthy needs to rein her in….stat.
I’m going with scenario #2.
In my opinion Milley is a traitor.
Dumpster fire. Entire government
Milley lie??? Were his lips moving??? Never ever EVER believe anything fed to you by the traitors who currently run the country via a stolen election. 81 million votes my ass.
“The intelligence apparatus of the United States created a completely false assertion, false intelligence; and then Milley acted unilaterally based on that false assertion.”
Not saying you are Sundance, but even if this happened the way it is stated, that does not excuse Milley ignoring his chain and calling the Chicoms.
In fact, if Milley did act on someone feeding him false intel, that would make him irresponsible and dangerous if he did not try confirm it with someone before speed dialing his buddy. If he DID confirm it, who was that?
I doubt very much that General Milley acted alone!
During my time of military service surprise attacking the enemy at any moment were the standing orders of the day. But we were a different country then and there were no Chu Hoi at the Pentagon.
He testified he was “instructed”, in the clip I heard, and he stated it with vigor, as if it were dispositive. My questions: who instructed him, and were they in his chain of command?
I’m not buying it. Either the swamp made up the lies or Milley did. Maybe Milley was protecting Biden (or Obama) and had to make up a story. (Protect your commander at all times.)
“Biden knew” is a poor way to protect your commander. Easily proven or disproven.
If proven to be accurate, it’s Biden that has to fall on the sword for his commander. (Obama)
The statement “Biden knew” is highly time sensitive and susceptible to change even within a single conversation.
Sidney Powell has your dots. She’s been trying to get her work on the Pentagon, patents and the 2020 election some damned coverage.
Milley’s calls obviously, and I mean obviously, has everything to do with the 2020 election. He needed cover to make those calls. He used this bogus crap story as cover for making those calls.
Here’s a vid she did with Stew Peters discussing the Pentagon patents on monitoring US elections –
https://www.redvoicemedia.com/2021/09/sidney-powell-drops-bomb-military-can-determine-election-outcomes/
Great video update from Sydney. Thank you. Video: https://rumble.com/vn2t1v-sidney-powell-drops-bomb-military-can-determine-election-outcomes.html
Should be front page news.
Of course Milley had to break chain of command.
It may have looked like treason, but Milley was just doing his duty to safeguard us all from nuclear annihilation.
We should be celebrating this selfless hero.
He protected the world from Orange Man Bad.
These maggots are going to justify every morally and legally reprehensible act of treason they’ve committed by claiming they were scared to death of Trump.
A bit of tension btwn Milley and Pelosi.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/gen-milley-nancy-pelosi-tried-to-undermine-nuclear-launch-chain-of-command
When China suppressed Hong Kong protests was it doing that in concert with Milley or others who had promised China they could act unfettered?
Another possibility is no intel connection, but another Pelosi scheme. Late September 2020 Pelosi was trying to attack President Trump via the 2th Amendment. She was also spouting off about “one way or another Trump will not be president’.
she ….said it shortly after 2020 SOTU speech….. when she tore VSG/ESG PDJT speech….. she did not joke..when she said- one wayor….
I have about decided it is as simple as this.
Millie is a mental case.
Milley the CCP Mole should be relieved of command. Investigated. Court Martialed. Let the punishment fit his crimes.
100% agreed if you’ll be kind enough to let me add the words “and then shot.”
I’m waiting on 2/3’s of the commenter here to start bad-mouthing Ratcliffe and Grenell since we have the same basic thing as yesterday; two of Trumps firmest supporters butting heads with Milley… I suspect I’ll be waiting a long time…
Maybe his wokeness figures so what if he lies, who’s going to do anything about it in this present post-election-fraud Democrat environment?
It’s not like armed frogmen will be swimming around back there somewhere with CNN standing down the street cameras ready to roll as legions of FBI agents descend while Wray goes on the boob tube to squawk about funding. How’s Roger Stone doing these days anyways?
Lt.Col. Scheller’s parents were on Tucker Carslson urging people to contact Congress about the outrageous treatment of their son. They said the government dropped a 646 page document on them with little time to review. Of course, they are trying to bury him without due process and under huge attorney fees. 646 pages for a Facebook post.
Our government is a f______ d_______.
Who warns enemies of an attack? TRAITORS.
Maybe China knew how they were helping the Swamp steal the Election and conduct the Plandemic and were concerned about getting caught, hiding it behind bluster.
The cabal’s web of lies and corruption is so BIG now, something is bound to be found out!!! I pray it’s soon.
Pence was giving the orders and Pilosi was vice president. Remember the news media at the time was saying Trump was flying on AirForce 2. its wasnt a mistake they knew what they were saying. Also they were saying that Pence was doing the day to day. Miley had his orders. There was a coup.
Anonymously provided transcript of the call available here. (?)
https://privilegend.substack.com/p/miss-milleys-gambit?showWelcome=true
What intelligence did Milley give to China to assure them that there was no attack imminent? Sub locations?
Milley should not be in the position he holds.
He obviously thinks highly of himself and no one else. He thinks he and only he understands what it takes to save the country.
No one should underestimate his ability to manipulate the beltway establishment. He is survivor
Former CIA head and Sec of State Mike Pompeo is saying the exact same thing as DNI Ratcliff.
Yes, this is Meagain Kelly. Yes, Kelly is a colossal irritant. But Kelly managed to get the interview, and conducted it well, so far as I’ve heard.
Pompeo said Milley absolutely did not have any authority to contact the CCP for any reason, and further Milley did not brief Sec Pompeo as Milley claims he did.
Further, Sec Pompeo takes issue with Milley’s description of the atmosphere of the Trump White House, and Pompeo saw no need whatsoever for Milley to be talking with anyone about anything, both foreign and domestic.
Am still listening to the entire interview, but this is enough for tonight’s purposes –
“Mike Pompeo Reacts to General Milley’s Testimony | The Megyn Kelly Show” 9:41
Who does she work for now, or does she have a podcast?
Someone on here said watch Seven Days in May… I am about half way through…military junta take over of country…is this what Milley was involved in? Pelosi?
CIA-Biden Junta were trying to juice up a narrative that Trump intended to nuke CCP in order to justify military occupation of D.C. and arrest, execute POTUS Trump for treason. Pelosi call to Milley was in furtherance of that project. Milley actually chickened out. Now he choses the worst possible “justification” for doing that. When he, Austin, and McKenzie sat for supper at their candle-lit tables last evening and this, their respected wives started in on them with something along these lines:
“Sweetie, YOU, YOU, YOU NUMBSKULL, you just got undone by a little old senator [and day-old representative]. A FEMALE! And I mean undone, tongue-lashed before the world’s millions, on split screen so they could see your face as she dug your grave. And you sat there and took it. YOU SAT THERE AND TOOK IT! For God’s sake — PAY ATTENTION TO ME — when MacArthur was CSA and took a beating like that from House Democrats, who wanted to abolish the Army’s Officer Corps, he stood up and left the room. He told the honorable representatives, ‘Gentlemen, you have insulted me. I in my profession am as high as you in yours. When you are ready to apologize, I shall return!’ But you, You, YOU and those nitwits you like to work with just sat there in front of the world, THE WHOLE WORLD, tongue-tied like two-year-olds at a fraternity bash, all your reputation for bullying flushed down the drain in a matter of seconds. AND BY YOU! YOU DID IT! You took a beating EVERYBODY can understand. I’ve NEVER been so HUMILIATED in my life! At least MacArthur was trying to protect the Army. You, You Fool, YOU were sitting there babbling gobbledygook so you could protect your privileges. Well, you didn’t. You lost them. Everyone saw it. And you just threw them all away. THREW THEM ALL AWAY!!! And you threw me away. You threw MY prestige away. And a little old lady did it to you. To US! Don’t you get that?!? TO US, TO US!, to our reputation, to My career! To MY life! She did you in, mister big shot soldier man. She did ME in! An old female senator [and idiot representative] from a no-account state. She got your number and did you in on live TV. My God, what were you thinking? Now there is no one who can put you back together again. Who would even want to after that performance? I sure as hell don’t. Even if I did, I can’t. You gave yourself no out. You gave ME no out. All the girls are looking at me now and saying behind my back, ‘Jeez, I’m glad I’m not her.’ You’re disgusting. Now, I’ve said my peace. Enjoy your steak and cognac, and I’ll have the help fix your favorite breakfast in the morning. You pathetic old bully. You can’t even rise to the occasion. Now I have to live with your colossal stupidity. God, I hate you. You ruined my LIFE today. Are you happy?”
They didn’t have to do any of that. They had it w/in their power to steal the election, which is what they did in any number of ways and yeah, with China’s help.
Until Milley nobody could even name a predecessor. That’s because by definition the Chairman and the other Chiefs of the Joint Staff are and have always been outside of the chain of command and therefore disregarded by the rest of the world.
My guess is when that idiot called the CCCP to say he would tip them off of any imminent attack they laughed their commie asses off…..at him.
Ditto our top CINCs when he told Nan he’d stop a nuke launch.
The only thing that this bozo is truly capable of is wasting electrons.
Everybody in Defense knows this.
Now let’s try to be more energy efficient at the CTH.
I would hope that Trump runs and wins in 2024 if for no other reason than to have that traitor and coward Milley brought up on charges of treason.
You have to be kidding. Do you think Trump lost in 2020? Trump won by a landslide. However, in case you are unaware, the 2020 election results were made possible by rigged vote counting machines. If it worked in 2020, what makes 2024 any different?
Yes, the IC is corrupt to the core. This guy is still a traitor and should be busting rocks as long as it takes to build a proper gallows.
I understand that Milley Vanilli was ROTC at Harvard. I noted previously that I would not consider any military graduate of probably 75-80% of current colleges remotely fit for military leadership command duty anywhere above commanding the post motor pool……and even then I would make sure an NCO checks all his work.
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Princeton.
Was General Mark Milley part of the COUP?
If your answer is yes. Then the reason for the pre- and post-election conversations change between a Chinese General and a U.S. General.
The Chinese General controlled BIO-Weapons. Do you think the BIO-Weapons in China played a key role during the 2020 election?
If your answer is yes.
Then what would you suppose General Mark Milley and the Chinese General were talking about prior to the election, since our military helped fund the COVID virus creation?
Then what would you suppose General Mark Milley and the Chinese General were talking about after the election, since the CCP was flipping votes during the election? Election interference on this level would have triggered red flags all over the internet for the U.S. military.
It’s certainly nice that John Radcliffe speaks out against Milley, but John Radcliffe was one of the biggest disappointments in the last six months of President Trump’s first term. He could have blown up the stolen election and saved the US. For that matter, he could have blown up the J6 lie before it got started. He could have done so much more. Screw him along with Sessions, Huber, Whitaker, Meadows, Pompeeo, Pence, and I can go on and on until I run out of ink..
Oh so true.
I can easily believe the only supporter PDJT had / has in Washington is Steve Miller.
Traitor and a disgrace to the uniform.
These Intelligence head FAKES are getting to be a real pattern of abuse. Abuse of system. Abuse of the American People.
Hate to disagree with Rattcliffe but I don’t believe Milley was doing anything outside of the prearranged ordinary with China. My take is that he’s been compromised long ago. When I looked at his rapid escalation through the ranks to get to the Chairman of theJoint Chiefs, it’s abundantly clear someone was clearing the way for him. He essentially spent one year in each post and promoted a direct line to the Chairmanship. You could argue Obummer was the force behind his perfect leap frogging but he’s hardly a stellar individual and Obummer would have to have done similar promotion support but it doesn’t exist. IMHO there are compromised individuals within the military/Pentagon just like Congress and other areas of leadership that the CCP has long cultivated. I think Milley is one of their 1000 Talents. The “stupidity” of leaving state of the art military gear, weapons and aircraft/helocopters also doesn’t sit well with me. Consider China moving into Afhghanistan to help their development and infrastructure. Wanna make a bet they already have the night vision goggles, Black Hawks, and other state of the art materiele and are already reverse engineering it.
Did anyone hear Pompeo’s interview on Meghan Kelly’s podcast?
I heard him on Fox. SAid the same thing.