Following direct remarks from both Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick and U.S. Trade Representative Jamieson Greer, a triggered Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney says the U.S. will not be permitted to dictate terms of the USMCA renegotiation, now scheduled for formal talks with Mexico only beginning May 25th.
According to the Canadian leadership they do not need the United States in order to maintain their economy. The unfortunate people of Canada are very close to finding out exactly what that level of arrogance delivers.
USTR Jamieson Greer was just in Mexico meeting with Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum and the Mexican trade delegation. “Mexico’s economy minister Marcelo Ebrard said on Monday that formal negotiations to review the U.S.-Mexico-Canada trade pact, known as the USMCA, are due to begin the week of May 25.”
“Tomorrow and this afternoon we will hear the U.S. side’s views. Once that is done, we will move on to the next phase, which is formal negotiations. We expect formal negotiations to begin the week of May 25,” Ebrard said following a meeting with U.S. Trade Representative Jamieson Greer.” {source}
Meanwhile Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney continues talking to his domestic audience about fighting Donald Trump and refusing to accept any terms that do not meet his current pontifications: “It’s not a case that the United States dictates the terms. We have a negotiation, we can come to a mutually successful outcome – it will take some time,” he continued.
In Washington, Trade Representative Jamieson Greer said unless Canada engaged in talks about broadening the so-called rules of origin that allow goods to enter the United States tariff-free, Washington might have to impose other border controls. {source}
As the rhetoric continues increasing, the possibility of a full block against the import of Canadian goods increases.
It is worth remembering, the recent Supreme Court decision that overturned the IEEPA tariffs also reinforced the unilateral power of the U.S. President to regulate any/all trade with any foreign country including a full block of trade if designated. Canada is positioned to be the first nation to discover the expressed power of the U.S. President as affirmed by the United States Supreme Court.
One of the reasons why Canadians are oblivious to the potential collapse of their economy is because U.S. media reports are blocked from Canadian social media sites. One of the infringements within the USMCA is the Canadian Law Bill [C-18, the Online News Act] that blocks information to Canadian citizens that is not supported by the Canadian government.
The people of Canada are stuck inside an Orwellian government constructed echo-chamber unable to hear opposing viewpoints. They simply have no idea what is heading in their direction. Which is incredibly ironic considering how much Mark Carney rails against Russian President Vladimir Putin, yet Canada has more restrictions on information than Russia. Think about it. The need for control is a reaction to fear.
This information control dynamic helps to explain why Canadians, in the aggregate, simply do not realize the nature of the trade conflict that has been created by their own government. Perhaps a full 30-day blockade would help their eyes to open; perhaps not. However, something needs to happen in order for the Canadian people to have time to prepare for the economic collapse soon to fall upon them.
On June 1st Jamieson Greer anticipates telling congress that the U.S. intends withdrawal from the USMCA (CUSMA), pending unilateral negotiations with both Canada and Mexico to resolve conflict. Greer described two different protocols within any negotiation to deal with the structural differences between both Canada and Mexico.
Those differences include a completely different import/export profile with each country, different sectors of goods, difference in the wage rates within each country and a structural difference in the way each country is establishing their own, independent free trade agreements with other third-party countries. These baselines form the reason to tell congress of the dissolution, and on July 1st inform both Canada and Mexico about it.
In the interim, the points of conflict are currently being negotiated with Mexico toward resolution. Hence Jamieson Greer in Mexico meeting with officials on Monday and Tuesday.
It is not just Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick and U.S. Trade Representative Jamieson Greer who are publicly warning the Canadian government about what lies at the end of this self-destructive path they have chosen, Deputy USTR Rick Switzer recently also sounded the alarm. WATCH (prompted):
The Canadians have been talking to U.S. media looking for sympathetic ‘Orange man bad’ coverage. However, within the contacts between Canadian government officials and U.S. corporate allies, the sentiment from team Trump is very clear:
“The key thing that has struck me, and I think it has struck all Canadians, is so many of these guys in the Trump administration, frankly, they just hate Canada,” said Brian Clow, former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s deputy chief of staff who led Canada-U.S. affairs. {source}
It’s not hatred, it’s annoyance.
Years of compounding parasitic annoyances and sanctimonious, ‘holier-than-thou’ pontifications from the arrogant and uppity Canadian government.
The only time Canada has been honest with themselves and with President Trump was when Justin Trudeau was exiting office and admitted Canada cannot function without all of the one-way benefits it receives from the USA {GO DEEP}.
When President Trump was asked about Prime Minister Mark Carney creating a new trade agreement with China, President Trump responded that he didn’t care – it was irrelevant to him. Yet, simultaneously inside the USMCA President Trump has the power to veto any trade agreement between Mexico or Canada and a non-member nation.
So, why didn’t President Trump care? Easy, because in President Trump’s mind there’s not going to be a USMCA; so, he really doesn’t care if Canada runs to violate it. In real terms, Canada doing bilateral deals with other countries, especially deals potentially detrimental to the USA, only strengthens his position on dissolving the USMCA.
If Canada violates the terms and spirit of the USMCA, it makes dispatch of the unliked trade agreement even easier. Canada is helping President Trump remove the congressional justification they could use to block him. If Canada is violating the USMCA (CUSMA), Congress is kneecapped from interference.
Provoking Canada into a trade position, that puts them at a disadvantage trying to stop the dissolution of the CUSMA, stops Congress from opposing the fracture, and then opens the door to a bilateral trade agreement, is creating a self-fulfilling prophecy that is entirely controlled by President Donald Trump.
Both Canada and Europe are independently, out of necessity, taking action that takes apart the trade and economic system they created. At the core of the old trade system both Canada and Europe were exploiting the USA, exfiltrating wealth and skimming the independent entrepreneurial innovation that originates from within the U.S. economic system.
That necessary exploitation happened because the USA is innovative (freedom-based capitalism), while the CA/EU system is built on government control mechanisms. The CA/EU energy policy is just one impactful example of their pontificating inability to be insightful when it comes to consequences. The EU and Canada are now stuck looking for markets that will do the dirty jobs, provide them with core components, while simultaneously looking for markets for their finished products.
On the other side of the approach is President Trump, working to expand U.S. industrial dirty job capacity, create our own core components, then create finished goods entirely on our own. A complete revitalization of the U.S. industrial and manufacturing base. Our U.S. GDP is currently expected to grow north of 5%. This is not happening by accident.
♦ SUMMARY: Some people have construed the bilateral trade preference of President Trump to be the elimination of globalism in favor of nationalism in trade agreements. While the outcome of Trump’s approach indeed aligns with that theme, it is not specifically the objective of President Trump to eliminate global trade, but rather to focus on specific interests in trade that benefit the unique nature of each party involved.
Canada can embrace China, and Europe can embrace India; in the bigger picture it really doesn’t matter. These relationships only create dependencies which are the natural outcome of globalism. From President Trump’s position, what really matters is what happens within our borders and how the United States economy is positioned. This is President Trump’s singular focus.
Do you remember President Trump leaving the 2025 G7 meeting in Canada early? The final day invitation list brought Australia, Mexico, Ukraine, South Korea, South Africa, India, the United Nations and the World Bank into the G7. President Donald Trump smartly exited the G7 assembly a day early, he departed before that crowd of interests arrived. The world leaders came because the process to keep USA wealth inside the USA is against their interests. That’s why they came, and that’s why President Trump left.
Globalism, in its economic construct, is a series of dependencies. However, the opposite is also true. If nations are not dependent, they are sovereign – able to exist without the need for support from other nations and systems. If nations are sovereign, then globalism is no longer needed.
If each nation of the world is operating according to its individual best interests, the position of Donald Trump, then what happens to the governing elite who set up the system of interdependencies?
Can a non citizen be charged with treason? Barry never proved his citizenship! To me he is still a Kenyan!
You can be sure he would play that card if he was ever charged.
I recall the negotiations related to the “media clauses” in the current USMCA, because we actually discussed them here.
Those clauses were originally included by the Canadian Government for claimed “monetary and competitive” purposes, protecting Canadian owned media news sources. It seems that the US News Media appears to “outperform Canadian Media sources” in terms of $$Viewers and $$Sponsors.. I know go figure but it seemed at the time that not only did the Canadian Government not like the US News media messages but the Canadian Audiences prefers US News propaganda to the propaganda spewed by the Canadian news media.
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Excellent analysis and insight. Thank you, Sundance!
It’s beyond time to give the U.S. automakers and any American company operating in Canada an ultimatum and strict tariffs and penalties.
Looking at the numbers, the U.S. stock market capitalization is $40 trillion. Mexico is $11.5 trillion and Canada is $2.7 trillion. Canada attempting to control negotiations is similar to your local bank attempting to control negotiations with JP Morgan. I suspect the narcissist impulse encouraged by globalist ideology creates a level of cognitive dissonance, in Canada, which prevents them from understanding the reality of the situation.
Carney’s belief in his negotiating position and not being dictated to by the US reminds me of this Paul Newman quote:
“If you’re playing a poker game and you look around the table and and can’t tell who the sucker is, it’s you.”
This is another such thing… I’m not saying we should have let Canada continue taking advantage of us, but it was a bad idea to start ranting on social media and trash-talking Canada as our 51st state while they were trying to elect a conservative PM. What’s the benefit of having a hostile government up north?
The timing? Do we need to open 10 different fronts at the same time? Why? What’s the exact benefit of picking a fight with multiple adversaries at the same time?
As a Canadian President Trump supporter let me say President Trump was correct in “ winding up” our nation of pukes!
As a nation our boomers by and large have benefited tremendously from our status with the U.S.A.
IMO much more so than U.S.boomers.
We Canadian boomers ( especially the females” are pampered beyond belief.
I listen to them daily at the pool, on a ferry, in a shopping mall.
All listen 24/7 to our corporate and propagandized MSM.
I was an immigrant to Canada, and the majority of immigrants ( legal) of a boomer age support President Trump.
The rest 🤮
Cheers, 😎💪
Dekester, recognizing you as a long-term branch holder here at the Treehouse I hope someone, anyone can open the eyes of more Canadians to the truth about Carney’s globalist plans to the detriment of so many pro-Trump Canadians.
Carney rhymes with Barney, the Purple one who waddled her way in and then out of Canadian politics only to go to Ukraine and destroy any economy they might have after that debacle is over.
I hear you Deke! The libtards have ruined this country. It is unrecognizable, from back in my younger years, to now.
Yet, they still win elections….Its hard to understand how stupid some of our countrymen are……
Yeah, stupidity drives some of it. Cheating handles the rest.
SD put up a really good article at the top of the comments that explains it all. Canada is small, no one cares.
The conservative would have been just as bad for us as Carney. He would want the same concessions for Canada. The only difference would be that he would wrap it in a package more appealing to Americans, might not have hit the accelerator quite so hard. He would be just as hostile without appearing to be so.
Carney was the perfect choice…for us.
𝐂𝐀𝐍𝐀𝐃𝐈𝐀𝐍 𝐖𝐎𝐌𝐀𝐍 𝐋𝐈𝐕𝐈𝐍𝐆 𝐈𝐍 𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐔.𝐒. 𝐃𝐈𝐒𝐌𝐀𝐍𝐓𝐋𝐄𝐒 𝐓𝐇𝐄 “𝐓𝐑𝐔𝐌𝐏 𝐈𝐒 𝐀 𝐃𝐈𝐂𝐓𝐀𝐓𝐎𝐑” 𝐓𝐀𝐋𝐊𝐈𝐍𝐆 𝐏𝐎𝐈𝐍𝐓 𝐖𝐈𝐓𝐇 𝐑𝐄𝐂𝐄𝐈𝐏𝐓𝐒 𝐅𝐑𝐎𝐌 𝐇𝐄𝐑 𝐎𝐖𝐍 𝐂𝐎𝐔𝐍𝐓𝐑𝐘
Political malpractice, Ego, hurt feelings, antagonizing…. All perfect descriptions of a Leader its citizens are positively enthused about. As a Canadian it’s shameful to see “peaceful Canadians” turn into such arrogant ***holes chomping at the bit for their own destruction. Watching The Brits and the EU isn’t enough to see how this will end. (With or without Trump in office!)
I’m disgusted at the level of low IQ.
The story goes the ENTIRE country of Canada is blacked out from receiving any news from the USA regarding national and world events?
Television, print media, internet, radio?
Is no living person there not curious or suspicious about this?
How is it sporting events such as NHL hockey, to name one example, are allowed to be seen and heard but they’re able to 100% censor the news?
They do the same in the U.S. Just turn on mainstream media for 10 minutes and you will see it is nothing but a litany of lies.
Well, I dont have regular cable so Im not sure that all news is blocked, Ill take SD’s word for it.
Mind you I have an Amazon Firestick, and IPTV, and have 4000 channels…( great deal, $200 a year, but illegal as can be…lol! )
I come here for the news and the truth. And a few other sites.
The Elbows Up morons are as gullible as you can be!
Having followed the Canadian mess since Carney’s election, Canadians do not understand “the so-called rules of origin that allow goods to enter the United States tariff-free.” They’re not told of the usmca backdoor that China uses to send their exports into the US via Canada duty free.
Even conservative pundits and you-tubers don’t seem to understand. It’s never a point that they bring up. It’s like 2+2=4 no matter how many times you have to say it. As for the steel and aluminum tariffs, it’s never explained why Trump might want the US to rebuild its own infrastructure.
Instead, it’s always ‘poor me’, and attacking an innocent Canada.
Trump economy primed for significant rebound.
https://thecapitalistmag.substack.com/cp/193991640
I thought we were headed towards 2 separate agreements. Us/Mex & US/Can?
We are. That is exactly what is happening.
President Trump is going to void the dual deal and do a trade deal with Mexico first. Then Canada can negotiate or they can get a trade embargo.
The liberals in Canada are going to get a rude awakening.
Sundance, this thread is infected with Norton Antivirus Spam.
No. It isnt.
Something is triggering your virus suite….
Remember, there are a lot of very rich and powerful people that want to shut SD up, and all of us as well!
No wonder Alberta wants to become part of the USA…
Well, im moving there if this all becomes a reality. I have had enough of the corrupt and insane libs and their BS!
If you have the means, it might work out better for you to do it sooner rather than later. Best of luck.
What happens long-term in Canada should remain on the US radar for strategic reasons. A Canada – China warming is detrimental to the United States.
China already has troops illegally stationed in Canada. The Media and Gov’t knows but ignores them. The Chinese troops carry their weapons despite it being illegal.
Canada, being the arrogant ash-wipes will probably do things to spite the US. One of the things is increase immigration from China. There are already 1-2 million Chinese (if not more), and a great many of them are loyal to China. Another thing is allow Chinese spy craft, equipment, and influence for tech stealing, money laundering, corruption to originate right from Canada.
Simply closing the border won’t make America safer in our hemisphere.
Having such a long border with a likely future enemy is detrimental.
I’m afraid, the best outcome is to poach a few provinces, and break Canada apart. At least then it can be managed better…
Once the country of origin debacle gets ironed out (and the border situation, that will likely be a knock on affect), China will have less interest in Canada other than as a place to extract resources from, which Canada appears more than willing to grant them. The Chinese are doing to Canada what they do in Africa: they send troops to protect their resource extraction interests. The Canadian government has allowed this out of greed, desperation, and perhaps some spite — this will likely be a mistake.
That picture of that little turd flipping off our President and the citizens of this country, makes my blood boil.
When the pitch forks come out in Canada, I hope he begs for help! When he does I hope our President Trump flips him off.
So, they want to dictate to us how much of our money we are to give them? screw them
my family emigrated from canada back in the late teen’s of the last century, and last year canada approved bill c-3 giving anyone citizenship who had parents, grandparents, great grandparents etc that were canadian,,,called the ‘lost canadian’ bill,,,,,,,,my home province would be quebec, and what they just did with bill c-9, criminalizing the Bible and Jesus,,,,,I told them to pound sand,,,but my relatives in connecticut are all for it
I’m trying to get my arms around Sundance’s thesis. The nagging question I have is around why Mexico and Canada are diverging on this. Mexico’s president is a globalist Marxist installed atop Mexico’s government by the same global powers that installed Carney atop Canada. Same long-term goal, agenda.
Why diverge? Without question anything Trump’s negotiating team says to Mexico’s is communicated to Canada. No secret deals, no stealth plans exist, all an open book to each.
This doesn’t make sense to me. Yes, sure, domestic politics are different…but are they, really? Does Canada have better control of their information ecosystem than Mexico? Is Canada’s manufacturing of consent operation more effective and comprehensive than Mexico’s, more capacity to question, reason in the population south of the border than north?
Thanks in advance for insights you may have.
Each day I am more and more thankful for President Trump – and the superb people in his administration. God certainly blessed our country when he was elected, even though we didn’t deserve His grace. I can hardly imagine the absolutely horrific condition our country and its citizens would be in right now if biden or harris had managed to “win” this past Presidential Election. Thank you God, for enabling us to dodge that death knell to our country.