An interview by Maria Bartiromo this morning highlights one of the dynamics almost invisible to most voices who speak on a granular level about the background of Spygate, and where they believe John Durham is going. In this interview, former Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe outlines the moment in August of 2016 when Team Obama (he uses John Brennan) tells the president what Team Clinton is doing.
To set the correct context to understand the importance of what Ratcliffe is outlining here, it is important to remember that inside the executive branch of government, heading into the 2016 election, the two distinct camps were operating based on their perspective of their individual best interests. Two distinct camps – Team Clinton and Team Obama.
Watch the interview while paying close attention to the dates and personalities that Ratcliffe is outlining. I will expand on the background to explain how these issues surface in the investigation of John Durham; where he will go and where he will not go. WATCH:
To understand the context Ratcliffe is explaining, it is important to go back to the relationship that existed between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. It is from this relationship when things start to fall into place, as the Clinton camp was operating in the year of the 2016 election. Grab a beverage, this is going to get weedy…
Deep political followers will remember well the 2008 Democrat primary between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. It was a brutal battle within the Democrat Party between radical ideologues (Team Obama) and the entrenched establishment old guard (Team Clinton).
Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton hated each other.
Team Obama were radical progressives with idealistic objectives to fundamentally change America. Team Clinton were power hungry politicians from a traditional Democrat perspective. The Clintons focused on power for the benefit of their own affluence and gain. In essence, team Obama were true believers (communists). Team Clinton were following their traditional path looking for power and wealth (crony capitalists). This underpinned the primary battle.
As an outcome of the battle, Team Obama won, but the PUMAS were born (ie. Party Unity My Ass).
To heal the DNC scars, although they still hated each other, Obama essentially gave Clinton the Secretary of State job so she could get what was always important, money. Giving her the SoS position allowed Hillary to keep making money for the Clinton Global Initiative, an international money laundering operation selling influence. Hillary accepted and did exactly that, selling influence to gain affluence throughout her tenure as Secretary.
The Clinton-Obama détente also came with an agreement. When Obama was done, he wouldn’t do anything to interfere with Hillary’s quest for the White House. But keep in mind, the underlying difference between Hillary and Obama (graft/power -vs- true believer/fundamental change) was always present in the two camps as they worked deep within the institutions of government.
Hillary used the State Dept as her own little fiat system. The State Dept was filled with like-minded Hillary supporters. When Hillary left the Obama administration at the end of the first term, Obama agreed to accept a personal liaison, Clinton acolyte John Podesta, implanted into the White House to protect her future interests.
Few people have paid attention to the importance of that personnel move.
In the lead up to what would be the 2016 election, John Podesta was inside the White House as an advisor of sorts. However, John Podesta was not advising Team Obama. Instead Podesta’s job was to relay information to Clinton about what was going on inside the White House in 2014 and 2015.
Podesta was there because Clinton and Obama did not trust each other. Podesta, Clinton’s personal fixer, was in the White House to keep an eye on things. I have often reminded people of that dynamic with pictures of Podesta sitting in the wings:
Fast forward into 2016… Inside the executive branch, as the 2016 election primaries were taking place, you still had this Team Obama -vs- Team Clinton dynamic in place. Now however, the Clinton camp looked at their responsibility with an operational objective to get Hillary elected as the next administration.
Team Clinton included the continued majority of administration officials within the State Department. Inside the other institutions of the executive there were also Clinton team members, as well as officials looking to curry favor and advancement for the Clinton administration if she were to win the 2016 election.
In addition to almost all the State Dept officials, team Clinton included: Leon Panetta, Mike Morrell, Deputy AG Sally Yates, Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe, and a host of other key workers/opportunists within the institutions like: Lisa Page, Peter Strzok, David Laufman and the entire DOJ/FBI crew who worked on the Clinton email and Huma Abedin laptop investigation specifically motivated to clear Clinton including FBI Director James Comey.
Team Obama always consisted of entrenched loyalists to the bigger cause, and Valerie Jarret ensured everyone stayed focused on the Obama team priority of fundamental and structural change. Obama loyalists included: Lisa Monaco, Susan Rice, Samantha Powers, Kathryn Reummler, John Brennan, Denis McDonough, Jack Lew, Eric Holder/Loretta Lynch etc.
Team Clinton was using the machinery inside government to position Hillary for victory in November 2016.
When it became clear that Donald Trump was going to be her opponent (after Super Tuesday, March 2016), the political weaponization of that machinery now had a target – Donald J. Trump.
Clinton hired Fusion GPS in April 2016 for the purpose of targeting her opponent Donald Trump. The Clinton State Dept officials, Clinton Intelligence officials, Clinton DOJ and FBI officials and Clinton-allied federal contractors now had a target. The “I’m With Her” media were awaiting information to receive and deploy against her opponent. All of the various Clinton aligned internal and external operatives in government began executing the larger plan to assist, protect and advance Hillary.
♦ However, there was a problem – Through the summer of 2016, the Clinton activity was too intense and too transparent as conducted by participants inside government. The aggressive use of the intelligence community was creating a risk. After all, many of the operations being run to benefit Hillary politically were being done under the umbrella of the Obama administration.
If Hillary Clinton’s crew went too far… which they did…. they could be putting President Obama in a position of compromise. That was a problem for Team Obama loyalists and the people who had worked too hard on the fundamental change.
Team Obama did not want to see their successful accomplishments and ongoing objectives put into a spotlight of illegality because Team Clinton was using the machinery of Obama’s administration to target her political opposition. THAT background was the topic of the August 2016 meeting Ratcliffe is drawing attention to today.
CIA Director John Brennan meeting with President Obama in the Oval Office in August 2016 is informing him of the visible nature of the weaponization of government that Team Clinton was executing.
Team Obama then gave Team Clinton a serious slap across the knuckles, telling them they better come up with a legal justification for their use of the intelligence community against Donald Trump…. THAT is AUGUST 2016… THAT is why the Clinton crew inside the DOJ and FBI operation needed to come up with a legal justification for their prior intelligence deployments…. THAT is why the DOJ/FBI needed the FISA warrant.
Following the warning provided by Team Obama, the Clinton team then put together a plan to use Carter Page as a vessel for a Title-1 search warrant that could be used as justification for their pre-existing use of the intelligence apparatus against Donald Trump. The FISA application was put together to justify the Clinton operations; however, the FISA application was weak-sauce…. thus, they needed the Christopher Steele dossier to take the place of a valid ‘woods file’ in the application.
Carter Page was selected because he was a known commodity to both the CIA and the FBI going back to his collaborative work in the Evgeny Buryakov case, and Carter Page was close enough tangentially to the Trump campaign to be valuable.
The ‘Trump is a Russian asset‘ narrative was already in place. Team Clinton had been grooming this false narrative for several months. Carter Page was a part of that narrative, and the DOJ/FBI using Page to get a Title-1 surveillance warrant eliminated the legal issues Team Obama was warning about.
The rest, as they say, is history.
The totality of all of that unethical and illegal activity is why defenses had to be activated in the aftermath of the 2016 election. Getting Robert Mueller and Andrew Weissmann into place was part of that urgently needed coverup and defense strategy. Andrew Weissmann and crew took control of the DOJ and targeted the White House to stop Donald Trump from exposing all the 2016 corrupt activity.
♦ How does this play out with John Durham? The answer to that question is found by going back into the original camp positions and then reminding yourself all the current Biden administration officials are also Obama loyalists.
No one from within the Obama loyalist camp will be touched by Durham. However, those who were in the Clinton camp can be targets of Durham depending on how close they are to the proximity of the dividing line between Clinton and Obama. Those who are close to the Obama line are more safe than those who are distant from it. That’s what we are seeing with John Durham.
Durham cannot cross the line that protects Team Obama, because he knows the barbed wire Bill Barr put down. Former AG Bill Barr gave Team Obama (which includes Democrat politicians in positions of power) a defensive weapon that sits in a drawer in case Durham exceeds his politically permitted mandate.
Under DOJ regulations [28 cfr 600], a special counsel must come from “outside government“; John Durham was not outside government and did not resign his position prior to the appointment. Bill Barr gave the appearance of a special counsel appointment while knowing the legal validity could easily collapse upon challenge (if the Biden administration choose):
§ 600.3 Qualifications of the Special Counsel.
“(a) An individual named as Special Counsel shall be a lawyer with a reputation for integrity and impartial decisionmaking, and with appropriate experience to ensure both that the investigation will be conducted ably, expeditiously and thoroughly, and that investigative and prosecutorial decisions will be supported by an informed understanding of the criminal law and Department of Justice policies. The Special Counsel shall be selected from outside the United States Government. Special Counsels shall agree that their responsibilities as Special Counsel shall take first precedence in their professional lives, and that it may be necessary to devote their full time to the investigation, depending on its complexity and the stage of the investigation.” (link)
Obviously Bill Barr is a smart man. He would know the regulations he cited would require the special counsel to come from “outside the U.S. government,” thus such a simple flaw cannot be looked upon as anything except purposeful. Should John Durham get too close to the Obama line of protection, the political system will defend itself by highlighting that John Durham has no legal authority. That’s how DC protects itself.
Bill Barr was the Bondo application, John Durham is the spray paint.
The final accountability you are being provided by the Durham probe is your ability to snark and yell “I toldyaso” at the leftists and political media. That is why John Durham is providing “speaking indictments“.
Durham is purposefully giving all of the right-wing media, and the deep-weed followers of Spygate, fuel for their righteous indignation -an opportunity to yell ‘TOLDYASO‘- in the indictments of those who are a long way from the Obama dividing line. That’s where it stops.
The “Durham Report” (everyone was talking about) will likely be a final assembly of Durham indictments put together in a book format.
The allowable targets for Durham can be defined as those Clinton team members who were furthest away from Team Obama.
as Interesting and thought out as this is it doesn’t address the actions of team Obama post election up to the inauguration. All the unmasking in the final days and the perpetuation of the plot to take out Trump. That wasn’t just team Clinton, a lot of Obama sycophants were involved and as Durham keeps ratcheting up the pressure people are going to get nervous and desperate. It doesn’t appear Durham is using these indictments to get low level people to turn states evidence as he already has the entire conspiracy laid out. Whether Obama was aware from the start or the Brennan meeting was a ruse to protect him his administration perpetuated the plot and tried to burn the whole country down on his way out. As more people feel the heat and react out of desperation obstruction comes into play. Biden was the one who recommended they use the Logan act so is likely in the crosshairs and it’s Obama and Susan Rice pulling his strings. This should get really interesting the next few months and I’m still hopeful when the rightful president is back in office all of them go down. God is in control!
Wrong. Quite in fact he is using these lower level key participants to get the higher ups.
But you’re on top of it
He had to start over as special council because when he quit as us attorney he had to leave his previous sealed indictments at State
The higher ups sang already…..Brennan and Clapper
It’s a traditional Rico conspiracy case lower to higher roll up
Thanks!
what about the docs Ratcliff provided? Wouldn’t those have all been after his designation as SC? Barr stated pretty unequivocally he made him SC so he could “complete” the investigation.
If it’s Rico and Brennan/Clapper already turned claiming everything they did was at the direction of Obama how does that not bring him down as well?
I’m hopeful that this whole fiasco will finally rid us of the corruption from both sides. Our country has been through the ringer and it’s going to get worse before it gets better but we know the good guys win in the end. God bless!
Did you know John Durham loved Ken Starr’s work and holds him in high regard?
…”All the unmasking in the final days and the perpetuation of the plot to take out Trump.”….
Oh, you mean like Samantha Powers?
Go back and look at the teams again.
That’s who I was referring to. Her, Rice, Jerret were all involved in furthering the conspiracy after the election to take down the president. That’s all known, seems like it would be nearly impossible for Durham to surgically get just Clinton loyalists with the facts already in the public domain.
Just found your site today, appreciate you work!
This entire saga is fruit of poisonous tree and an attack on our Republic by evil traitors
I remember when I found CTH. Although, I don’t think it was ever lost, it’s just the last refuge waiting patiently to be discovered. 🙂
“No experiment can be more interesting than that we are now trying, and which we trust will end in establishing the fact, that man may be governed by reason and truth.
“Our first object should therefore be, to leave open to him all the avenues to truth.
“The most effectual hitherto found, is the freedom of the press. It is, therefore, the first shut up by those who fear the investigation of their actions.” – Thomas Jefferson to John Tyler, 1804
Question:
Does this mean the rumored Dominion pre-programmed 3%-to-5% of Clinton votes Nationwide was sabotaged by Team Obama … to guarantee a Trump victory … because Team Obama decided they could destroy President Trump faster than a President Hillary?
Amazing how much damage Oblamo the commie traitor did to this country. I’ve been to places where life is cheap and three generations live and die in the same house. People here have no idea how good we have it. What Oblamo and the other grifting “wealthy communists” have done to this country is unforgivable. There is no easy way out of this. Hopefully eyes are opening. That seems to happen when you hit them hardest in their wallets. The insane spending is the final kill shot that takes down our economy and propels China as the world economic leader. China owns this government. When I started seeing everything made in China in the 90s I told people this would happen. I remember when almost everything was made here and life was much better. What these greedy selfish pigs have done makes my blood boil. Really, how much is enough? No amount of money seems to satisfy these sick psychopaths. You would think after making a few hundred billion they would sail off in their yachts with their super models and say, “I’m done. I’ll give someone else a chance.”
Sundance, in 2019 you wrote this, and it seemed spot on to me. What changed?
anybody got an opinion about Barr’s non-resignation letter? Seems like a pretty glaring omission for the top attorney to not use the word resignation in the letter advising PDJT. I’m not a lawyer but it doesn’t take one to point out that was technically not an official resignation.
I don’t know what the consequences of that would be but it seems that there’s a lot going on we aren’t privy to. Especially when you consider some of the other official acts between Nov 3 and Jan 20.
“No one from within the Obama loyalist camp will be touched by Durham.”
Agreed. However, no one should discount the ability of BJ Clinton to weasel his way out of a trap.
Unless Hillary Clinton is defenestrated from the Washington monument, there will be political land mines laid everywhere across the path of the Clinton’s retreat.
That’s my thoughts, too, Christian. I agree with SD; Durham may try not to touch the Obama people, especially those still entrenched in DC, but the Clintons will not go down by themselves. If Hillary feels the walls are closing in, I believe she will take everyone down with her. And, that’s the unknown to the Obamas and their people.
Sounds about right to me.
A few little to medium-sized fish may get caught.
I don’t expect much to happen to those who do get caught.
It’s all show, IMO.
I don’t think the importance of high profile officials doing time in jail can be overstated. Without any fear of that, Dems will be plotting coups every time a Rep wins an election.
I read Blood Sport, nonfiction account of Clinton/Obama family feud. It was at times vicious and others very petty. It wouldn’t surprise me for Obama to be the person allowing or promoting Durham’s investigation out of spite.
Political crimes have a statute of limitations, hence Hillary hiding in Belfast for the remainder of the 5 Years. Sadly, she didnot drink herself to death.
Maybe no big fish will be punished legally.
But we ALL will know what they did.
We ALL will know they are guilty, along with CIA , FBI, DOJ, Congress and MSM.
When we see how guilty they ALL are and *nothing* comes of it, we will hopefully be angry enough to force Congress to change the laws to prevent this from happening again.
AND we must ALL never celebrate, cheer, respect or support these traitors again.
Their names and their crimes MUST go down into history alongside Benedict Arnold and Julius and Ethel Rosenburg.
They won’t be able to make public appearances. They won’t be able to walk the streets. “Shame! … Shame! … Shame!”
This is why they went back to Manafort money laundering after they had already investigated years earlier. Any nugget of justification for the investigation was used
So why can’t any indicted Clintonista’s use the “Durham is not from outside government” defence?
Political clout. Think about it… It’s more of a process defense than anything else. A process defense is a political defense.
Process/political defense are advanced by Media and politicians.
The power brokers are willing, currently, to let the ensnared fish remain ensnared. However, if Durham casts that net a little wider – the authorization argument might come out.
Love everything here SD
Let’s see who the next few indictments /names are
I think the heat is turning up
I have a feeling all this stuff is coming out because Hillary is planning on primarying Brandon, even though she just recently said she will never run again for public office? What you think because this is all nothing burger stuff. Nothing will ever happen to the real power brokers and team Clinton and Team Obama hate each other probably more than any other combo.
Did Barr officially and legally use 28 cfr 600 as the basis of the appointment? If he did not, and used another basis to use the term Special Counsel,,,may be Durham has a broader reach than anyone thinks…and having read Barr’s “Resignation Letter” it seems Barr can be very subtle in misdirection.
Have appreciated your site and thoughts for some time now. Majored in Pol. Sci., and For. Rel. and campaigned my rear off for Barry Goldwater in 64, knowing exactly what Johnson was going to do in VN.
“campaigned my rear off for Barry Goldwater in 64.”
Thank you for your service to our country. You were finally vindicated when Reagan was elected to two terms.
Yes.
Order 4878-2020 10/19/2020
https://www.justice.gov/file/1370931/download
Purposely, Barr doesn’t mention 28 CFR 600. 1-3 as being “applicable”.
600.3 being where the “outside government” requirement resides.
Additionally…..
600.2 states: The Attorney General may…..
“(c) Conclude that under the circumstances of the matter, the public interest would not be served by removing the investigation from the normal processes of the Department, and that the appropriate component of the Department should handle the matter.
So AG Merrick Garland (AKA Lisa Monaco) could at any time invoke both (2) and (3) if Durham reaches any undesirable trip-wire.
What isn’t being talked about is that Durham is also looking into the Clinton Foundation as well as the Russia thing.
“Durham casts that net a little wider – the authorization argument might come out”
The Clinton Foundation is the web that connects a lot of people to this saga.
I’m willing to bet Spy Gate is not the only mandate and that Huber turned that investigation over to Durham.
Sundance, the only loos string with this approach: The Clintons themselves. They are too petty, too full of themselves (especially Hillary), too power-hungry, and too full of hate to just let their people fall from grace. The Clintons are loose cannons and I think they could cause the whole thing to come crashing down- especially if they feel too trapped and that Obama is going in for the kill.
Given Obama’s philosophical agenda, don’t underestimate the hatred that Obama has for Trump, who represents the very essence of the capitalistic American way of life. Even the master of deceit himself, Obama, couldn’t mask his utter disdain for Trump when in his presence. While self-preservation likely overrode his Trump hatred in many respects, I think a lot of the continuous onslaught of decimation acts against Trump were Obama’s vengeance against someone who represents everything about American that he hates and that he’s committed to changing.
Trump also made it obvious before he was elected that he did not believe Obama was Constitutionally eligible. That has a huge impact on why Hillary’s lost to Donald Trump, Obama’s biggest nemesis, put pure panic in both parties and they revealed the swamp and the uniparty trying to cover for the faud Obama, to unitmately cover for themselves…….Hillary was the planned, promised in 2008 and much needed after Obama cover president and she was not supposed to lose, especially to the “birther” (that’s a good thing), Donald Trump.
Could Durham be expecting the political defense by Team Clinton to be shot down, obstensively making his political charges against Team Clinton viable?
Then, if there is a change in the political winds in 2022, Team Obama would not be able to use the same defense?
(This is more grasping at straws than Trust the Plan.)
Yes, all true. But what if the Clinton Mafia seriously destroyed the Obama Mafia?
This is precisely what the Justice of God looks like. Both evil camps in Hell in the end. Praise be.
Afterall, there is no honor among the stooges of Satan.
Letting them all eat each other as the heat is turned up is what should be in order.
The CIA and FBI already knew about the Clinton plan and were aiding with the execution of that plan.
Obama already knew.
This meeting was a response to the DNC hack and Brennan would have known at that point that Crowdstrike was involved.
Brennan was more likely informing/discussing the reality of where the info leak originated and how they would cover, and where the investigation/plan was heading
Great analysis, Sundance.
From this convoluted entanglement created by the two camps for the benefit of their own agendas, and given the way things go down in the swamp [things go down even further into the depths of the murkiest and stinkiest of swamp waters], I at this point don’t feel like getting not even a tiny fraction of a smidgen of hope up that these crimes will be brought to justice.
Justice will be done…and perfectly at that. I’d just have to wait for the most impartial and righteous of Judges to execute His justice. The day will come.
In the meantime, these little trickles will keep the pundits squawking.
“In essence, team Obama were true believers (communists).
Team Clinton were following their traditional path looking for power and wealth (crony capitalists). “
So, Bill Barr looked a few steps ahead toward the 2021 puppet regime. He set up some of the Clinton gang for show trials, while laying down needed protection for the incoming communist puppet masters.
Barr laid the ground work for our collapse.
The way I see it, Team Obama has the muscle. Barr may not be a communist but he’s a wimp and a pragmatist.
He knows how deeply entrenched the communists are and was never going to overtly be a roadblock.
Look at the information he was privy to and how little he did to try and set us back on the path to justice.
We needed a patriot with an unshakable belief in justice. We got Bondo Barr.
That’s pretty much how PT put it, adding election fraud, and RINOs.
“RINO former Attorney General Bill Barr failed to investigate election fraud, and really let down the American people. Even the scam that took place in Georgia of ballot stuffing on camera, he couldn’t see what was wrong with it.
“Just like he failed to understand the Horowitz report and let everyone down with respect to getting a timely investigation (where’s Durham?) on all of the corruption of the Obama-Biden Administration.
“It’s people in authority like Bill Barr that allow the crazed Radical Left to succeed. He and other RINOs in the Republican Party are being used in order to try to convince people that the election was legitimate when so many incredible facts have now come out to show conclusively that it wasn’t.
“He came in with a semi-bang and went out with a whimper. Earlier in his term Bill Barr went ballistic on CNN with Wolf Blitzer warning Democrats were changing election rules to flood the system with mail-in ballots that “as a matter of logic” are “very open to fraud.” They are, and Bill Barr did nothing about it.”
[PT talks evidence in Arizona, Georgia, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania]
“If he felt this way, why did Barr say he was “greatly honored” and “proud to have played a role in the many successes and unprecedented achievements you have delivered for the American people”, in the final letter he wrote to me?
“He said, ‘Few could have weathered these attacks, much less forge ahead with a positive program for the country.’
“Now it was revealed that Barr was being pushed to tell lies about the election by Mitch McConnell, another beauty, who was worried about damaging the Republicans chances in the Georgia runoff.
“What really damaged the Senate Republicans was allowing their races to be rigged and stolen, and worse, the American people to no longer believe their vote matters because spineless RINOs like Bill Barr and Mitch McConnell did nothing.”
-Donald J. Trump, Jun. 27, 2021
SD posted a video from a rally where PT spoke on Barr, “I’ll only say it once.”
The commentary/analysis was insightful.(Go deep thread at the end)
Problem is, the link does not state what PDJT only said once.
So Barr is also a true believer? This would be the only reason he would protect Team Obama.
Wasn’t Mueller also not “outside the US government” when he served as Special Council?
Mueller was retired from the FBI for years. So he was outside.
“Retired” doesn’t negate “inside”, especially when you’re still connected to those you worked with. Nor is it delineated in the rule that being retired forgives being inside, whether it was a month ago, 5 years ago, etc. It’s strange that seems to be ignored in both appointments.
It’s ignored because it’s convenient and suits their needs.
Would love to hear the opinion of Treepers here on EconChick/Intel Chick, who says Durham and Barr have always been patriots and justice is about to be meted. Sundance, on the other had, is saying Barr/Durham will fry Clintonites, but protect Obamites — who, by the way, are currently running the country off a cliff and into the hands of our enemies — who are the owners of the Obama clan.
Bill Barr organized the defense of FBI assassin Lon Horiuchi, who blew off the head of Randy Weaver’s wife.
Don’t be deceived. Bill Barr is a villain.
https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/william-barrs-connection-to-ruby-ridge-defending-fbi-snipers/
Horiuchi also shot LaVoy Finicum.
Blew off the head of a woman nursing her baby.
I’ll be shocked if any Team Obama members are targeted.
What is the echick’s opinion on PT’s opinion of Barr covering up election fraud?
I ask, because it’s hard for me to trust Barr’s plan, knowing PT’s opinion.
TY for the info. She is well worth reading for a unique and apparently very well informed pov.
My guess still is that John Durham is protecting the GOP establishment and the formative role they played in the “Insurance Policy” and the soft coup against Trump from the early planning stages.
He is also protecting the DOJ, FBI and possibly the CIA. Again, all the CIA did in their official capacity was contributing to the intel. assessment along with 16 other intel. agencies, which is not actionable even though John Brennan probably played a bigger role in this than he was give credit for… He politicized the CIA and infiltrated the National Security Council (Ciaramella, Vindman, possible other names..) to counter any of the Trump’s foreign policy moves after Obama’s departure.
That said, my reading of this is that Clinton should be off limits. She knows too much and Obama is technically guilty of aiding and abetting. If she is as smart as everyone said she was, she probably created a paper trail or had Obama implicated. There were and probably still are tensions between Obamas and Clintons. Barack couldn’t stand Hillary and vice versa. So if Obama was going to throw her under the buss, the only question would be at what cost?
Again, we may see some more pawns being sacrificed, but I don’t expect Clinton, Comey, McCabe or anyone else being charged by Durham. He was installed to protect the institutions and major cabal figures who are untouchable. Even Clinesmith – a sure bet to go after some high profile targets inside the FBI – was let off easy and kept his law license.
This should have been a RICO case.
Right on Al.
Include Gangs of 8 pos, and controlled opposition senate confirmation processed appointees. Like the Assange Wikileaks political prisoner persecution suggests. The exposure would bring down the corruptocrats including much if not most of the government.
The “our corner” of Twitter spent today congratulating themselves while avoiding any mention of CTH and your years of excellent reporting/analysis. And of course they all misread Durham again. Almost makes me glad Twitter banned me ?♂️????
I see this all over the net.
This helps me sort the self-censored “conservative” and “liberal” Uniparty media…and alignments/sympathies between them, the administrative state, multinationals, and self-serving political factions within the swamp.
Anything that is not censored is a lie, grey propaganda, subterfuge, or somewhere in between. My opinion only.
“Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle.
“The real extent of this state of misinformation is known only to those who are in situations to confront facts within their knowledge with the lies of the day.”
–Thomas Jefferson to John Norvell, 1807
If you think Durham is going to indict high level FBI/DOJ/Senators etc. you’re naive. Durham likely knows if he tried that he would be shut down by the AG and Biden. If necessary they will give him the Scalia treatment to end his probe.
So what about the Hakluyt connection …..Downer ,Brennan ……they are the ones that likely gamed the whole thing ….ex MI6 founded fixer for big corps and govts globally ….any chance of a deep dive on them Sundance
Durham resigned his post as US Attorney so I suppose he became “outside government” just like Mueller – who once headed the FBI.
I do think Durham will be shut down when he dances too close to the cliff, but they’ll just use historic Democrat dirty tricks or out and out BS.
You missed garland being grilled on this in Congress
Durham is fully funded and Garland cannot touch their SC
He was forced to admit it
Right in front of our faces… how much are We the People going to put up with? Disgusting
Lisa
I was going to write a complete dissertation and in one sentence you made the statement and asked the exact question.
Here is the answer to your question. Very soon…
We will never get the satisfaction that we all desire. None of them will ever be perp walked in Orange Jumpsuits and living in the cages that they deserve in GITMO. EVER!!!
But, make no mistake that this “IS” our 1776 moment.
A band of Misfits decided that they were not going to be ruled by the Queen.
And “We The People”… “Deplorable’s”… “Domestic Terrorists”… “Patriots”… Whatever they want to label us as… Are Done with all of this disgusting Tyranny and Thievery.
They have over played their hand and have come completely out of their closets. They aren’t in the shadows any more.
Thanks to many awesome Patriots from all over the world that have helped to expose them.
We now know the truth and The Truth Will Set You Free!!!
It’s not a matter of if anymore it’s a matter of when… and my educated guess tells me by Summer of 2022 that the wide spread of dirt naps will be well underway.
We will die on our feet and never ever on our knees ?? GenX will save this planet from these Demons and make no mistake that that’s exactly who they are.
May God have Mercy on their Souls!
Hope is eternal and don’t ever let them take that away from you.
God is Good All The Time ?? Unfortunately, there are times in life when good men must do bad things…
Thanks DJ Trump, Rush Limbaugh, Sundace, Admiral Rodgers, Devin Nunes and many more for shining the light on these criminals.
As the saying goes… Just Say When!!!
Since just shortly before HRC resigned from her position as Chancellor in Belfast, I’m assuming her 5year wait for the Statute of Limitations to run out, was over. If that is so, this is all for naught.
Bringing Barr into the discussion raises the question of Team Bush. Following the logic of the analysis, it would seem that Team Bush has decided to affiliate with Team Obama. We have long known that those people weren’t on Team Us but based on past practice, I would have thought they would be more likely to side with Team Clinton.
So for obongo, this is basically a “two-fer”–he got Trump painted into a corner and at the end of the day, he gets Her Thighness and her squad of flying monkeys castrated and/or indicted.
It’s time to put him and President ValJar into the spotlight…they can’t hide behind Biteme’s soiled pants forever.
Team this, team that, team the other, THAT is the problem.
They’re all employed to do a job, following the law regardless of affiliations.
It seems an insoluble problem without recourse to means unspeakable.
If I recall the situation in 2016 when Trump was trying to win the nomination, several things came about that seemed strange at the time.
The entire time, prior to the primaries, the DNC and Hillary’s team were surveilling potential opponents and the conservative media personalities. The plan was to remove voices from the conservative team and plan to dirty up any real opposition – whoever rose to the top. We know they wanted Carson, or Trump, or Cruz – pied piper candidates. Team Hillary and the DNC were fully prepared to wreck any of the candidates and their media support.
It now makes sense from Sundance, that Obama admin forced them to create a reason that would legitimize their illegal activities. However, if they look further back, I am sure there is no predicate for any of the illegal activity – just partisan hacks within government on Team Hillary – protecting their own. They were surveilling media, candidates, regular citizens in support of winning at all costs.
“Following the warning provided by Team Obama, the Clinton team then put together a plan to use Carter Page as a vessel for a Title-1 search warrant that could be used as justification for their pre-existing use of the intelligence apparatus against Donald Trump. The FISA application was put together to justify the Clinton operations; however, the FISA application was weak-sauce…. thus, they needed the Christopher Steele dossier to take the place of a valid ‘woods file’ in the application.
Carter Page was selected because he was a known commodity to both the CIA and the FBI going back to his collaborative work in the Evgeny Buryakov case, and Carter Page was close enough tangentially to the Trump campaign to be valuable.”
As our country crashes and burns, the long-awaited indictments just continue to add fuel to the crash-and-burn chaos. It’s all part of the BBB (build back….) plan. Chaos. Division so the unwashed can’t unite and take down the powers that be.
It’s all just become a bunch of shiny squirrels. Junk news by traitors.
Crash and burn it must, but the outcome will not be communism. Pick your side. Pick your state. Separatism.
Where will the traitors go? IslandS? Gates..Zero…who’s next. Let’s watch where they move to. Last stop. H*ll.
You have to strike the word “idealistic” from “Team Obama were radical progressives with idealistic objectives”. “Fanatic”, “devious”, “diabolical” would all work, but “idealistic” is totally not true.
Idealistic is the right word. True believers are so much worse than just a plain old corrupt politician like Bill Clinton. Remember, there was nothing Bill wouldn’t do if it meant getting re-elected. He stood for nothing at all, just bent to the wind whatever way it blew.
That’s what Limbaugh meant when he said Obama wasn’t just another Democrat, he was something else entirely. Genuinely evil IMO.
It would be fun, though, if at the 11th hour after playing nice Durham (or somebody on his team) decides to throw sunlight on the whole operation including Team Obama and people currently in the Biden Administration. It could be indictments or leaks to a “credible” news outlet that wants to run with the juicy details. There’s always a Buzzfeed out there eager to scoop the rest of the gang and give away the secrets a-la the publication of the entire unredacted Steele Dossier (which revealed what a steaming pile of crap it was), ruining the drip-drip-drip plan of Mueller, Weissman, and their sycophants in the MSM.
A fella can dream.
Burn it all Down!
Thinking out loud: I don’t understand how anyone can possibly think Biden would run for reelection in 2024. His physical and mental health is dangerously bad and he has become such an object of ridicule, he will be lucky to finish his first term. And it looks like, even with handlers, Biden, as the senile figurehead, is a real threat to his own party. The Legislative Branch must be feeling emboldened because Biden and this administration is doing real harm to the Executive Branch. The good that may come from the turmoil of the past 5 years is that Clinton machine was defeated and the shear incompetency of the Biden administration will put Obama’s agenda and his embeds at great risk.
“… as well as officials looking to curry favor and advancement for the Clinton administration if she were to win the 2016 election.” Anyone aside from me immediately think of Dr. Fauxci and his mash note to Granny Winebox expressing his undying love, sent via Cheryl Mills (think it was Mills; could have been one of the Dowager Empress’ other stooges)?
That sound you just heard was the can being kicked down the road.
Where’s Sundance’s graphic when I need it?
I think it is wrong to identify the Obama administration as communist. Yes, he was raised one and buys into the ideology and there is much overlap within the DC players (and beyond).
But I think it is a mistake not to recognize that Obama’s administration sympathies leaned heavily towards Islam. This is an important distinction because REAL communists, like Russia and China don’t get along with Islam and they NEVER EVER will.
I get it’s not that simple. But if Obama’s camp is indeed pulling the strings on the Biden puppet, we need to accept that Islam is pulling most of the strings. Sure, China is still in the game, that’s for sure. Perhaps Biden was chosen as he was acceptable to China, sort of like Hillary was given Sec of State. Maybe they’ve made some agreements. I don’t know.
But if Obama’s camp is in charge of Biden, then we need to accept that it is Islam, not communism that is running his show. Islam and communism are no more compatible than oil/water, Hillary /Obama or Jill/Kamala.
for example, China and Russia could not have been thrilled with all of the military equipment we left to Afghanistan and Iran. While China may be happy that America’s forces are severely weakened, it won’t help them if that equipment is turned on them.
Who were the “four contractors” who violated the database search parameters on the NSA 702 database? Was it four companies or four individuals? Was one of them named Ohr? They apparently began the illegal actions that culminated in the Steele Dossier.
I have always believed “The beautiful Nellie” the HAM radio operator was one of them, or at the minimum advising them.
So if Durham’s Special Council authority is illegitimate are his indictments “fruit of the poisoned tree”?
If Durham understands his position and one must assume that he does and if he is genuinely seeking to right previous wrongs, is their any way that he plants a poison pill that will expose itself say during the next presidential administration? As Radcliff stated, he… Adam Schiff and several others from both the House and Senate KNOW much of this information already and they, by their silence have implicated themselves. What contains this when questions are asked, and surely they will be, about Obamas complicity in Hillary’s plan and his knowledge of how she executed it ‘under his nose’. Does Durham, knowing his limitations create enough question that it forces yet another special council that will have broad digression in what it investigated and prosecuted?
Excellent article raising many great points….
But I’m not as sure as you there is such a bright line between Obama and Clinton as far as their actions on Russiagate involvement. It was VP Biden who did some unmasking and Susan Rice who wrote the email claiming Obama asked that “everything be done by the book.”
But if you’re saying yeah but for political and cultural reasons Obama won’t be touched, I agree.
Thought about this. Theory: Durham’s October 2020 appointment document states that his appointment is conditioned on him leaving the employ of the government, which he did in December 2020.
“John Durham is the spray paint.” Durham Durham simply can’t spray without overspray which will end up on team Obama. He knows this if we know this and will try to placate the right amd mask off team Obama. Unfortunately the truth gets under the masking tape and there will be those who notice the paint job got on the tires.
If I understand Sundance, it appears these teams used the American people and ruined it’s institutions for their own power and corruption with almost no concern for how it affects the country. Well, I hope to see the day when they learn, directly or indirectly that they are traitors.
Why was there no Obama acolyte then to run against Hillary? Seems logical Obama would have wanted another Marxist believer to take over for him. Four years later we get Obiden. So I guess Obama gets to run our country from his basement in his sweats.
Hilldog probably has the potential to stir up quite a large size hornets nest. Obama sprayed her but didn’t kill her. Here’s hoping she get’s pissed. Or maybe she quite happy letting Dancheko, Sussmann and Klinesmith get killed protecing her nest.
Wow all those threads joined together to make a whole.
This has the ring of truth about it.
McCabes Porshe on Blocks:
McCabe’s Porsche on Blocks focusing on Sussman’s key role:
There is a long road between indictments and convictions. Just because SC indicts, doesn’t mean DoJ will prosecute. Remember Wolfe? remember hillary? remember Clinesmith with 6 months probation for a 10-year crime?
“Carter Page was close enough tangentially to the Trump campaign to be valuable.”
Exactly what was CP’s relationship with the Trump Campaign (TC)? Did he actually join the campaign? Was he a paid member of the campaign? What was his title? Did he ever actually do any campaigning or work for the TC? When did he begin a relationship with the TC? Who introduced CP to the TC? Was he placed there by CIA/FBI? Was he a willing participant? Or was he duped? (he seems too smart for that, but he could have been double crossed)?
Or was he just a friend of a friend in a distant business relationship that some hillary co-conspirators selected to set up and use? Was CP aware that he was being used? When did he first discover that fact?
I PRAY you are wrong.
Real progressives AGREE with you, almost completely! (Excepting your claim that Obama was actually a progressive, much less ‘change’ President as he himself publicly admitted he led as a Reagan Republican as he saved mega-investors while letting masses of regular homeowners get foreclosed!) Helping Hillary actually fit in quite nicely with all his many evil, banksterish deeds.
How I wish we had better public control over these evil politicians! They clearly broke serious electoral laws and should all have their political careers permanently ended, if not sent to prison!
Hillary should get the longest sentence.
Sundance, what are your thoughts on the remedy for American patriots?? You have clearly have laid out the problems, but what the country needs is solutions. Third party, civil war, civil disobedience, everyone stop paying their taxes, assassination teams, all out assault on the elitists, what what what?