An interview by Maria Bartiromo this morning highlights one of the dynamics almost invisible to most voices who speak on a granular level about the background of Spygate, and where they believe John Durham is going. In this interview, former Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe outlines the moment in August of 2016 when Team Obama (he uses John Brennan) tells the president what Team Clinton is doing.
To set the correct context to understand the importance of what Ratcliffe is outlining here, it is important to remember that inside the executive branch of government, heading into the 2016 election, the two distinct camps were operating based on their perspective of their individual best interests. Two distinct camps – Team Clinton and Team Obama.
Watch the interview while paying close attention to the dates and personalities that Ratcliffe is outlining. I will expand on the background to explain how these issues surface in the investigation of John Durham; where he will go and where he will not go. WATCH:
To understand the context Ratcliffe is explaining, it is important to go back to the relationship that existed between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. It is from this relationship when things start to fall into place, as the Clinton camp was operating in the year of the 2016 election. Grab a beverage, this is going to get weedy…
Deep political followers will remember well the 2008 Democrat primary between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. It was a brutal battle within the Democrat Party between radical ideologues (Team Obama) and the entrenched establishment old guard (Team Clinton).
Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton hated each other.
Team Obama were radical progressives with idealistic objectives to fundamentally change America. Team Clinton were power hungry politicians from a traditional Democrat perspective. The Clintons focused on power for the benefit of their own affluence and gain. In essence, team Obama were true believers (communists). Team Clinton were following their traditional path looking for power and wealth (crony capitalists). This underpinned the primary battle.
As an outcome of the battle, Team Obama won, but the PUMAS were born (ie. Party Unity My Ass).
To heal the DNC scars, although they still hated each other, Obama essentially gave Clinton the Secretary of State job so she could get what was always important, money. Giving her the SoS position allowed Hillary to keep making money for the Clinton Global Initiative, an international money laundering operation selling influence. Hillary accepted and did exactly that, selling influence to gain affluence throughout her tenure as Secretary.
The Clinton-Obama détente also came with an agreement. When Obama was done, he wouldn’t do anything to interfere with Hillary’s quest for the White House. But keep in mind, the underlying difference between Hillary and Obama (graft/power -vs- true believer/fundamental change) was always present in the two camps as they worked deep within the institutions of government.
Hillary used the State Dept as her own little fiat system. The State Dept was filled with like-minded Hillary supporters. When Hillary left the Obama administration at the end of the first term, Obama agreed to accept a personal liaison, Clinton acolyte John Podesta, implanted into the White House to protect her future interests.
Few people have paid attention to the importance of that personnel move.
In the lead up to what would be the 2016 election, John Podesta was inside the White House as an advisor of sorts. However, John Podesta was not advising Team Obama. Instead Podesta’s job was to relay information to Clinton about what was going on inside the White House in 2014 and 2015.
Podesta was there because Clinton and Obama did not trust each other. Podesta, Clinton’s personal fixer, was in the White House to keep an eye on things. I have often reminded people of that dynamic with pictures of Podesta sitting in the wings:
Fast forward into 2016… Inside the executive branch, as the 2016 election primaries were taking place, you still had this Team Obama -vs- Team Clinton dynamic in place. Now however, the Clinton camp looked at their responsibility with an operational objective to get Hillary elected as the next administration.
Team Clinton included the continued majority of administration officials within the State Department. Inside the other institutions of the executive there were also Clinton team members, as well as officials looking to curry favor and advancement for the Clinton administration if she were to win the 2016 election.
In addition to almost all the State Dept officials, team Clinton included: Leon Panetta, Mike Morrell, Deputy AG Sally Yates, Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe, and a host of other key workers/opportunists within the institutions like: Lisa Page, Peter Strzok, David Laufman and the entire DOJ/FBI crew who worked on the Clinton email and Huma Abedin laptop investigation specifically motivated to clear Clinton including FBI Director James Comey.
Team Obama always consisted of entrenched loyalists to the bigger cause, and Valerie Jarret ensured everyone stayed focused on the Obama team priority of fundamental and structural change. Obama loyalists included: Lisa Monaco, Susan Rice, Samantha Powers, Kathryn Reummler, John Brennan, Denis McDonough, Jack Lew, Eric Holder/Loretta Lynch etc.
Team Clinton was using the machinery inside government to position Hillary for victory in November 2016.
When it became clear that Donald Trump was going to be her opponent (after Super Tuesday, March 2016), the political weaponization of that machinery now had a target – Donald J. Trump.
Clinton hired Fusion GPS in April 2016 for the purpose of targeting her opponent Donald Trump. The Clinton State Dept officials, Clinton Intelligence officials, Clinton DOJ and FBI officials and Clinton-allied federal contractors now had a target. The “I’m With Her” media were awaiting information to receive and deploy against her opponent. All of the various Clinton aligned internal and external operatives in government began executing the larger plan to assist, protect and advance Hillary.
♦ However, there was a problem – Through the summer of 2016, the Clinton activity was too intense and too transparent as conducted by participants inside government. The aggressive use of the intelligence community was creating a risk. After all, many of the operations being run to benefit Hillary politically were being done under the umbrella of the Obama administration.
If Hillary Clinton’s crew went too far… which they did…. they could be putting President Obama in a position of compromise. That was a problem for Team Obama loyalists and the people who had worked too hard on the fundamental change.
Team Obama did not want to see their successful accomplishments and ongoing objectives put into a spotlight of illegality because Team Clinton was using the machinery of Obama’s administration to target her political opposition. THAT background was the topic of the August 2016 meeting Ratcliffe is drawing attention to today.
CIA Director John Brennan meeting with President Obama in the Oval Office in August 2016 is informing him of the visible nature of the weaponization of government that Team Clinton was executing.
Team Obama then gave Team Clinton a serious slap across the knuckles, telling them they better come up with a legal justification for their use of the intelligence community against Donald Trump…. THAT is AUGUST 2016… THAT is why the Clinton crew inside the DOJ and FBI operation needed to come up with a legal justification for their prior intelligence deployments…. THAT is why the DOJ/FBI needed the FISA warrant.
Following the warning provided by Team Obama, the Clinton team then put together a plan to use Carter Page as a vessel for a Title-1 search warrant that could be used as justification for their pre-existing use of the intelligence apparatus against Donald Trump. The FISA application was put together to justify the Clinton operations; however, the FISA application was weak-sauce…. thus, they needed the Christopher Steele dossier to take the place of a valid ‘woods file’ in the application.
Carter Page was selected because he was a known commodity to both the CIA and the FBI going back to his collaborative work in the Evgeny Buryakov case, and Carter Page was close enough tangentially to the Trump campaign to be valuable.
The ‘Trump is a Russian asset‘ narrative was already in place. Team Clinton had been grooming this false narrative for several months. Carter Page was a part of that narrative, and the DOJ/FBI using Page to get a Title-1 surveillance warrant eliminated the legal issues Team Obama was warning about.
The rest, as they say, is history.
The totality of all of that unethical and illegal activity is why defenses had to be activated in the aftermath of the 2016 election. Getting Robert Mueller and Andrew Weissmann into place was part of that urgently needed coverup and defense strategy. Andrew Weissmann and crew took control of the DOJ and targeted the White House to stop Donald Trump from exposing all the 2016 corrupt activity.
♦ How does this play out with John Durham? The answer to that question is found by going back into the original camp positions and then reminding yourself all the current Biden administration officials are also Obama loyalists.
No one from within the Obama loyalist camp will be touched by Durham. However, those who were in the Clinton camp can be targets of Durham depending on how close they are to the proximity of the dividing line between Clinton and Obama. Those who are close to the Obama line are more safe than those who are distant from it. That’s what we are seeing with John Durham.
Durham cannot cross the line that protects Team Obama, because he knows the barbed wire Bill Barr put down. Former AG Bill Barr gave Team Obama (which includes Democrat politicians in positions of power) a defensive weapon that sits in a drawer in case Durham exceeds his politically permitted mandate.
Under DOJ regulations [28 cfr 600], a special counsel must come from “outside government“; John Durham was not outside government and did not resign his position prior to the appointment. Bill Barr gave the appearance of a special counsel appointment while knowing the legal validity could easily collapse upon challenge (if the Biden administration choose):
§ 600.3 Qualifications of the Special Counsel.
“(a) An individual named as Special Counsel shall be a lawyer with a reputation for integrity and impartial decisionmaking, and with appropriate experience to ensure both that the investigation will be conducted ably, expeditiously and thoroughly, and that investigative and prosecutorial decisions will be supported by an informed understanding of the criminal law and Department of Justice policies. The Special Counsel shall be selected from outside the United States Government. Special Counsels shall agree that their responsibilities as Special Counsel shall take first precedence in their professional lives, and that it may be necessary to devote their full time to the investigation, depending on its complexity and the stage of the investigation.” (link)
Obviously Bill Barr is a smart man. He would know the regulations he cited would require the special counsel to come from “outside the U.S. government,” thus such a simple flaw cannot be looked upon as anything except purposeful. Should John Durham get too close to the Obama line of protection, the political system will defend itself by highlighting that John Durham has no legal authority. That’s how DC protects itself.
Bill Barr was the Bondo application, John Durham is the spray paint.
The final accountability you are being provided by the Durham probe is your ability to snark and yell “I toldyaso” at the leftists and political media. That is why John Durham is providing “speaking indictments“.
Durham is purposefully giving all of the right-wing media, and the deep-weed followers of Spygate, fuel for their righteous indignation -an opportunity to yell ‘TOLDYASO‘- in the indictments of those who are a long way from the Obama dividing line. That’s where it stops.
The “Durham Report” (everyone was talking about) will likely be a final assembly of Durham indictments put together in a book format.
The allowable targets for Durham can be defined as those Clinton team members who were furthest away from Team Obama.
Unless the Obama faction wants to remove Hillary from politics permanently.
Barry’s faction dealt her a major blow by declining to deploy Dominion in VA.
They might want rid of her craziness all together.
Virginia passed a law that all absentee ballots had to have been counted prior to the Polls opening. But for Provisional ballots and properly postmarked late delivery mail, there wasn’t much they could do in the 2021 State elections.
Maybe so. I know McCauliffe under performed Biden by 800,000 votes. Perhaps the changes you cite were sig enough to make that big a difference.
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“Call off Durham. I quit.”
It’s the Globo-Grifters versus the Islamo-Commies.
a la Kissinger: “It’s a shame they can’t both lose.”
Saying “Elected Office” does not rule out “Unelected Office”.
The Clintons still hold considerable “Leverage” over many. That leverage will not expire until they do.
Just think how many millions Biden can get for a Hillary pardon or to quash it altogether.
That will be Biden’s final play.
Team Clinton was done before McAuliffe loss the election in Virginia.
Satan already has her
God will send her there
Nothing will ever change until Obama departs…Earth.
Through a wood chipper
Prefer lower extremities dosed with a gelatin accelerant substance, launched from a cannon, through a ring of heat, and falling into an abyss and landing in lava
You have really thought this through.
The greenest way…
Feet first
The loss of Obama will not make a difference. The system is in place for the long haul. The money makes the decisions.
Biden is just an empty piñata for you to blame and beat on.
Right. Obama was part of the system. So was W. So was Bill. So was Poppy.
System = objective
The objective is everything to them.
Who is Poppy?
He does the pizza, remember? From Seinfeld – the guy who didn’t wash his hands?
Bush the First.
Him and many many others
you mean like old Captain Kirk?
Things could change when Soros dies. He may be old, but he’s been calling the shots. I doubt his sons are the misanthrope their father is.
I hear they are just as bad or worse. But I don’t know. Hope you are right.
The second generation of families like that usually are weak sauce.
One of the best TCH posts, ever.
Clarifying. Excellent work.
Simply…the very best and most clearly truthful voice out there!
As an adjunct to this essay listen to this podcast with Lee Smith and Julie Kelly re Durham, Lee Smith in particular –
Summary?
Kevin Clinesmith? Really ? I wouldn’t even include that lil’ nobody as having any importance at all . Pretty weak tea if he is included in this big “conspiracy takedown” IMHO
Sometimes foot soldiers are simply bodies with bullseyes on them, sometimes they do have useful intel given the proper motivation.
However, in what appear to be current circumstances, it’s like the Nazis running the Nuremberg trials. Not really productive. Clinesmith was a great example of that.
Every second of every day these Communists steal from our lives is a second we’ll never get back. Life is finite. It’s worth the ultimate measure of devotion to freedom and liberty. Freedom isn’t free. If it wasn’t clear before I hope it is now.
I think that is the point Sundance was making.
I’d be glad for Clinesmith to do time and lose his law license. Just because he was a minor player in the grand scheme of things, he willfully did what he could to help the evildoers. Clinesmith did criminal harm to Donald J Trump and to the nation as a whole.
Wanting to run with the cool kids can cause empty people to choose to do obviously wrong things.
Apparently neither of those things happened – he has already received his “harsh” sentence – some community service or whatever – and the beat goes on….
Yep, not even a meaningful slap on the wrist.
Though he may be a foot soldier, his crime was nothing that should have been written off so quickly and with so few consequences.
Falsifying evidence that set in motion a FISA warrant should have meant he lost his ability to be a lawyer at the least.
Cuomo and McAuliffe are just examples of offal now falling out of the Clintonista meat grinder.
Fascinating hypotheses. But call me skeptical. Barr indeed put in a poison pill – but that would be available to the Clintonistas to claim upon indictment. My guess is that one of the following will occur (in no particular order): a) before any indictments touch any serious-level FBI officials (much less anyone higher), it will be “discovered” that Durham has been proceeding extra-legally as a special counsel, and the whole thing shut down – and the “report” will never see the light of day; b) Durham will run out the clock (statute of limitations) on anyone major and it all will just fizzle-out (this would protect Barr from consequences his obvious “special counsel” move); c) Durham will suffer Arkanicide, and then Garland will shut it all down, as he’ll discover the bogus “special counsel” appointment, declare that all of the evidence gathered would then be inadmissible in court as “fruit of the poisoned tree,” and shut it down (with the report buried); d) after the midterms, same as (c) but without the Arkanicide; (e) some combination of the above.
DoJ regulations do not have the force of law. If the Attorney-General wishes, zhe may ignore them, as they are only procedures, rather than laws.
I hope you’re right. But after Barr Sergeant Schultz’d on the election fraud that was so in-your-face, and so showed the he was aligned with the coup, I subscribe to the poison pill theory unless and until (hopefully) proven wrong.
I am afraid your theory is right — Durham will go bust and what he “found” will disappear. Only God can clean this filthy house, because as soon as one devil is gone and the house swept, seven more move in.
So if Durham is deemed fruit of the poison tree, does that make Barr guilty of Under Color of Law?
Like a bed that folds out from a wall. Now you see it, now you don’t.
Not sure if this is in a federal statute, but “co-conspirator to commit treason” would seem to apply. He deliberately aided and abetted the coup (stolen election) by refusing to investigate it all while saying (in effect) that it was a “free and fair election.” When obviously it was not, and he had to be very well aware of that.
One of the very few McConnell moves of merit was keeping the filthy Marxist Garland off of the high court!
Given the Kavanaugh / Coney-Barrett record, maybe putting Garland in as “order taker” AG is causing us more harm, since the Supreme Court has proven itself not to have fealty to the Constitution anyway.
I wonder whether Durham’s ability to delay delay delay will end up extending past 2024.
That could be a serious game changer.
Wonder what kind of punishment anyone gets? Won’t be allowed to write a book for two years? No CNN appearances? Political perps have a way of landing on their feet.
Sundance, you convinced me long ago. I expect nothing more than whitewash from Durham, if anything.
I keep seeing headlines that encourage folks on our side that justice is coming… but that’s not what’s coming, at all, is it?
As always, I appreciate your insights and investigative lens.
Yup, bondo repairs look ugly without a good coat of paint to cover them up.
Yeah, I’m with you on this–I expect nothing at this point.
I may not know where Durham is going, but I know where he is not going.
He is not going after the major criminals. At least, he gives no indication of it.
Exactly ?
That will be up to “We the People” as this ship is righted…or as it sinks! Don’t ever forget….OBAMA!
Team Clinton is very good friends with the mad scientist Fauci. He’s admittedly madly in love with her. (See photo from Colin Powell funeral).
Could the mad scientist be doing his favorite politician a favor by Arkanciding her enemies? Like the whole world? To show her how much he is devoted to her?
We know the guy is a whacknut.
Stranger things have happened.
Just a crazy thought about some very crazy people.
The Russia fraud is nothing compared to the Covid fraud. The Covid fraud has way more players.
If anything, the proven Russia fraud that was knowingly pushed by politicians and the media discredits the same people pushing the Covid fraud.
*Criminally insane.
References, Treavor? Very likely true, but that statement as a fact needs support to be credible
Sundance, are you saying the Clinton camp is out of cards to play?
There is always Arkancide. It’s proved to be a very useful tool going back decades and dozens of inconvenient people.
She could just do what she always does when threatened. Bang, bang, bang, bang, etc…
Yes, the Durham “investigation” will be run “by the book” as written by Susan Rice and team Obama.
“Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton hated each other.”
They might hate each other, but they both love power and money far more.
Poly Ticks do make for strange bedfellows.
It’s really strange that I have something in common with both of them.
Just like 0bama, I hate Hillary; and just like Hillary, I hate 0bama.
Ok so based on your info since Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok James Comey are team Clinton they can they be indicted? Because I really want those smug SOBs arrested. Honestly, more then anyone else.
The bondo painter, Durham, has done nothing to date to indicate that he will indict those in the FBI. Instead they have been portrayed as victims. And now we know that Durham knows Strzok was told by the CIA that it was all a Hillary frame up, and that Obama and crew were told in the oval office, yet they all carried out the government attack on Trump.
He also has only gone after small fry that lied to FBI investigators. Durham’s write ups portray a conspiracy to defraud the government, but he has made NO effort to date to prosecute the conspiracy. He won’t even go after any big fish with that behavior.
Those SOBs are smug because they fix everything in their favor. So far, Durham is showing as part of the fix.
The nerve of John Carlin to mention VEB at the end of his testimony. This is another scumbag who could have admitted knowing Carter Page under cover spying for the U.S. at immediate threat of being excited by Russia if caught, unlike valire phlame.
Perhaps this is why Hillary has been so quiet lately?
Quiet??? She was just out at a huge gathering smothering Dr Faustus in wine flavored kisses with cameras rolling.
2-weeks ago at a press conference after the Durham indictments hit the news, Hillary said she will no longer seek office but just remain involved.
That was Hillary’s reply to the threat posed by Durham under direction from JoeBama’s DoJ.
The thing about special councils is that they are supposed too perate under the OVERSIGHT of the AG’s office. Even in the case of Sessions and Rosenstein, they had an duty to ensure the “legality” of Mueller’s operation..even if recused from the directly investigating.
I guess one could pose a question.
Did it help “Team Obama” to have Hillary Clinton win the 2016 Presidential Election and then entrench “Team Clinton” at the levers of power for 4 or 8 or more years, or did it suit “Team Obama” to have Donald Trump win in 2016, and then use the next 4 years to undermine Trump and force him out and then install someone from “Team Obama” to follow Trump.
Were “Team Clinton’s” interests served by losing the 2016 Presidential Election? I’d have to say, probably not. That’s a pretty big blow.
Battle between Clinton and Obama loyalists in the event of a Clinton 2016 & 2020 victory would have been an ugly battle in the shadows with periodic scenes appearing in the media.
Look to China Inc. as an example. There are factions within the China Inc. that hate each other and do bitter battle in the shadows. It is rare the conflict ever is seen in the public.
Once Hillary lost, Comrade Obama’s team was quick to start the purge of Clinton when VP Biden confirmed the 2016 Election Results without protest. So part of your comment is actually on target.
Interesting point.
Recall how many appointed Obama officials were made permanent members of the bureaucracy by executive order in the waning days of 44.
The big change over to “professional” did not occur until after President Trump was elected, starting in December 2016. However, it is certain the same would have been tried if Clinton had won. The difference is Hillary would have gotten her picks to run Executive Branch agencies, so those professionals that did not behave would have had very short careers.
I don’t think HilLiary is in the center at all, any more than Piglousy is.
Bill was another story but he was sidelined by his Communist wifeypoo early on.
I still think that Carter Page was a Deep State tool planted in the Trump campaign to give the FBI reason for surveillance.
100%.
Have any of the corporate “mouthpieces” actually ever put this direct question to him?
I don’t think they have – and I’m thinking of “Maria & Sean” in particular here as they had him as a guest many many times.
Could be.
If he wasn’t a planted tool, he certainly became a tool. He never got close to anyone on the campaign, he came and went…disappeared quickly in September…all the characteristics of a spook…spycatcher….played the stuttering idiot well…
I’ll have the Lying to the FBI and Falsifying Documents, and, since I’m really hungry, gimme the Sedition and the Treason, too.
This explanation misses the most fundamental basis for the Clinton/Obama rivalry. Both are sociopaths seeking the highest level of power i.e., US Presidency. The philosophy one tags them with is meaningless. The underlying is a sociopathic personality which seeks power by any means available using any hangers-on when it is convenient regardless of political persuasion. Viewing these people through a political ideology has no meaning, because they will follow whatever ideology works. This is why trying to figure them out with logic fails and why they do not respond to logic. Power, power, power is the goal of sociopaths. Once they have clawed themselves to the top levels they attack those who helped them who believed they would get a share of power. Sociopaths once they are at the top, do not share an iota of power. With the Clinton/Obama rivalry, they would have fought to the death, but such an obvious tactic would have destroyed the chances of each in a supposed Democratic society with the rest of the country watching. They had no problem going after Trump. The enemy of my enemy is my friend!
View politics through the lens of sociopathic personalities and one will quickly stop calling them Marxists/Communists/etc. Using the techniques of Saul Alinsky, is simply using an available tool.
Yes… except where does that power eventually lead? What’s the goal? Ultimate power– global power, not just control over the US and 300+ million servants but power and control over the entire world. Hitler, Stalin & Mao were globalists too.
Also, they were all socialists/communists/fascists; all just totalitarian dictators who sought to control the world. And, all were definitely sociopaths/psychopaths.
My question is – why would the brilliant investigator John Durham accept a role of Special Counsel when he would know (better than anyone) that he was not qualified to BE a SC? It’s just not credible that he would not be aware of the regulations.
Sundance apparently is saying he was in on an intricate plot to get rid of his own investigation if need be.
If so, it doesn’t appear as though he’s playing his part properly. The “TOLDYASO” reason for concocting such an intricate twisted plan (to appoint Durham, then later have him detonate his own investigation) just doesn’t seem to pass the “KISS” test.
Instead, according to quite a few folk who seem to understand the working of DOJ, and therefore the way these indictments have been structured, he’s focused in, and this is just the start.
If he were not on the level, why go to this trouble – just bring one/two page indictments, slap the wrists on the 3 you got, and close it down.
According to John Ratcliffe today, he gave Durham reams more evidence against the other perpetrators, and he fully expects a reckoning on all fronts. He, of all people, should be pretty cynical about that happening. But he’s not. Ratcliffe seemed pretty excited on Maria. He was literally frothing at the mouth.
How many referrals did Nunes make again?
And if Durham were, somehow, to be on the level, I’m not sure Obama et al could be so sure this could not ensnare him and/or his minions.
For example, say Durham were to interview Brennan for 8 hours and Brennan, to save HIS skin, he tells the truth and says “sure, I told the President about the Hilary plot to take out Trump, and then he just told them to go ahead, but make sure they did it BY THE BOOK”
But now Durham has shown that when they did it BY THE BOOK, that book was authored by Hilary. And EVERYONE on both competing teams knew it.
I may be missing something. Would that not ensnare O in the conspiracy?
Happy to be put on the right track here. Seriously
I may be missing something…
Perhaps the fact that Durham is still evidently breathing air?
If he were really a white hat intent on bringing HilLiary to justice, the fact that he’s alive at this moment would defy all reason.
How is it possible that foreign government intelligence agencies don’t figure all this out the same way?
How is it possible that during the entirety of this (creation of plot and then continued support of the plot) the GOP never once attempted to mount obstructions and/or arrange exposure? From anyone at all throughout the whole of the GOP including politicians/staff that were LEGALLY required to have oversight.
The 5 eyes were in on this up to their eyeballs! Why would two nothing countries like Au and NZ be in the premier IC sharing group? Because they both countries are filled with evil doers that do whatever the US IC tells them to do.
We see the Uniparty with the 13 Republicans that voted for the nightmare . Unbelievable. With the assist from the traitors in the Senate.
Paying anymore attention to Durham is as big a waste of time as the Arizona audits. All that time and money and patriots volunteering and the fix was in the whole time from the “Republican” Senate and useless AG. Hopeium
So is a tossed bone better than nothing? It doesn’t feel that way. Not after being hungry for years.
Shrapnel does not respect legal boundaries, if camp Clinton gets bombed by Durham, camp Obama and their pupper Biden are going to be damaged. The media though will have their credibility shredded which will have long term ramifications for any future leftist plans, as they rely on them to lull the population or terrify them, depending on what the agenda is.
It’s not just a TOLDYASO to leftists it’s the fact that everything else they bought into might be fake. Remember, leftists who have their world view proved wrong can become highly unstable and might even abandon the cult.
I wonder if this is what Trump is waiting for before he moves, complete vindication of his character, the fake MSM and neutered and the leftists in growing disarray?
IF the shrapnel hits they will start to eat each other alive. Hillary and Bill will go down fighting as will Obama and team. Could be the greatest EVENT ever and just think, PDJT caused it all — he will go down as best President (and “showman”) ever — everything he touches turns to gold — just wait! Wheels of justice turn slowly and it’s on God’s time not ours. Keep praying folks — Hillary and Obama will not be remembered well in History BUT PDJT will be! It’s coming
Trump is waiting for the 2022 Mid-Terms.
It makes no sense to declare before then for several reasons.
I agree. I do believe the demons are operating under MAD. They WILL destroy each other. Of Course, there are repugnicans who given enough money/power will step in to rescue which ever side comes with the check with the most zeros to the left of the decimal point..
Well then – it’s our job to make sure the worst RINOs blow all the cash they steal on blistering primary campaigns against them.
Media will have it’s credibility shredded? 50% of the population still believes in the “fine people hoax.” Leftists willingly ignore anything not congruent with their ideology.
50% – not so much anymore. Eyes are opening.
There’s a hard and evil 20% that will never budge. But as sundance says, there are more of us than there are of them.
WOW… WOW…WOW. Is this interview as explosive as it seems???
Stop calling Obama a communist and start calling him what he really is, a Muslim terrorist and pedophile.
And why do you think Durham is done? He’s just at the beginning.
PS : Same goes for Clinton.
Wanderer, this is opposite what Sundance is saying. EconChick/IntelChick agrees with you. What data make you feel he is just beginning? And why the timing now.
Politically, to keep the patriots from declaring war, I’m afraid Sundance may be right. They are reopening our old wounds, to rekindle our hope — but have no intent of really damaging the machinery that is set on destroying this country. That’s what I hear Sundance saying.
“What data make you feel he is just beginning?”
What data? I follow money and common sense.
October 2017.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/george-soros-transfers-18-billion-to-his-foundation-creating-an-instant-giant-1508252926
Bill Barr is a disgrace to bagpipes.
May God’s justice come upon him in this life for God’s glory here that others may see truth prevail and reckon it good.
where it’s going? NOWHERE. It’s the subnormal version of the Church Committee for the 2020s.
ADREM Someone else is using my screen name approximately 25 comments down line. The views written by that person are not mine. Please scrub and send a response to me via email. ?
I dont know who you are but Sundance has my email and knows how long I’m here on this platform.
Or do you mean someone else?
Oh my…. Do we have ‘Wanderer-on-Wanderer Crime’ here in the Treehouse? ?
Well,… you have to be honest, its not only Wanderer, I heard a lot of Brandon’s seem to be confused too nowadays,….
Very true, Wanderer (if that is indeed your real name ? …)
It is a tricky time to be a ‘Brandon’… Either you are vilified or deified…. Depending on which side of the street you walk on…
On the Left — aka the Moonbat side — you are ‘he who shall not be named’…
On the ‘people’s side’ they are chanting your name from the rafters in football stadiums….
This is where we are in ‘Biden’s America’…
‘Brandon’s’ have it much better than ‘Karens’ though… Only one side of the street there…
Checked….and the other “Wanderer” has been here since 5/10/21. You’ve been here since 1/21.
I could suggest you change your username to “the real Wanderer” or perhaps “Wanderer1″…or there’s always the all caps “WANDERER”?
Solved. ;o)
PERFECT! ? ? ?
I told you so!
One IMPORTANT addendum. Mueller was EXTENDED as FBI director past the 10 year limit for the Obama admin with HRC as SOS. (why….? is a good place to start)
I believe this is called ‘Operation John Durham’…not that there is a ‘real human’ John Durham conducting this supposed investigation….Why do I say this???? Because, Sundance in his travels to D.C never met in person John Durham, that’s my understanding….Sundance met underlings….If that’s not true I stand corrected…..
Also, no one has said in all these supposed investigations that they’ve personally met and were interviewed by John Durham himself…..Given the amount of people involved I find it virtually impossible no one would talk or leak out they were interviewed by Durham…..
Lastly, John Durham in 4+ years of supposed investigation has not been seen in public….Now think about this…..150+ million cellphone cameras and not a single sighting, not a current picture/video of this guy leaving the Courthouse, restaurant, Grocery store, Gas Station, Train Station or anywhere in Public…..The odds of this are staggering….It’s always the same picture of some guy with beard/mustache and scowl on his face…..and that picture must be from 20 years ago at least……I think John Durham is a ruse……Prove me wrong….
Hmmm, james, that’s some bold food for thought. Wonder if Sundance believes he’s fighting a ghost/windmill? I really think he’s smarter than that.
Bill Barr…….SPIT! Bastardo
Your assessment, Sundance, may well be accurate but I don’t like it because it’s dishonest and shady and fails to fix the dangerous police state problems that exist in the FBI, DOJ, DOS, CIA, NSA.
These are serious crimes of sedition against the POTUS and cannot be swept under the rug. A police state with unbridled, unconstrained power to destroy anyone they choose is too dangerous.
I also don’t believe that Trump would “fall for” the tactic you attribute to Barr re: how he hired Special Counsel Durham. It certainly makes logical sense but Trump wasn’t born yesterday. He is quite savvy when it comes to legal matters.
In addition, Trump’s personal attny was Guliani who would have explained to Trump what Barr was doing, as you have here. Then, Trump would have questioned Barr about it.
There must be more to this than we know. .. because it’s too obvious for Barr to have done and also too dumb for Trump to have accepted it.
Durham would know too. And that would mean he’s not seriously investigating anything. And what does Ratcliffe think about the poison pill in Durham’s appointment? Agree, some things still not adding up.
And forgive me for even thinking this but this was all a long time ago and since then we’ve had a stolen Presidential election and an ongoing attempt to poison the entire population so I find this stuff interesting but no longer as pressing. Yes, the bad guys won during the 2016 campaign and for most of Trump’s presidency.
No. It’s very serious because we clearly live in a police state in which the FBI, CIA, DOJ can do whatever they want to any citizen with no consequences.
It does feel like there are more urgent matters at hand. Project Veritas raided by FBI. Citizens rounded up by the FBI. Many looking like they were just protesting. Shock and awe tactics against American citizens.
We’re starting to feel like Hong Kong. Australia is already there.
Trump ‘fell’ for selecting Barr. Once Barr was AG, there is little Trump could do. Independence of the AG, continued blackmail by the AG, politically unable to can another AG during continued investigations and impeachments, and all that stuff.
Big question, what blackmail did they have to get mr Magoo Jeff sessions to recuse himself from a investigation that never had a shred of evidence or truth to it? That’s what I always wanted to know
Not True. Trump was the President. He has a right to ask a lot of questions of Barr. He hired Barr. Barr is no king who cannot be questioned and constrained.
Trump TRUSTED Barr. Barr duped Trump? Really? Trump still speaks highly of Barr so I am confused by Trump. If what Sundance says proves true, that would be a crime committed by Barr against the President and the nation. This is no small matter.
Basically, you are saying that President Trump was little more than a prisoner in the WH, not a real president because he had no power. Problem is he did accomplish a lot so the SEEMLY extreme incompetence by him re: dealing with the swamp, his cabinet and staff simply makes no logical sense to me. There is something else going on here.
“There is something else going on here.”
The usual explanation for how so much bad and illogical and wrong went down so fast and inexplicably is “there is something else going on here.”
Unfortunately, that’s what Q capitalized on, and what some more recent theories(devolution e.g.) suggests is happening in the background. And smart people are attracted to these theories because the alternative is in fact that there was no logic on the part of our side and that we (Trump and supporters) are the actual hapless bunglers. That’s untenable so some version of a complex, mind-blowing multi-dimension sting must be in the offing. Unfortunately, that turned out to be false.
The Trump admin was stymied at nearly every turn because the DS’s plot was far superior to our plan to take them out–if we really had a plan at all. And to ice the cake they stole the election even after they lost it! You’ve got to give credit where credit is due.
Anyway, we’ll still win but not because of genius leaders on our side but because of hubris and pride on their side causing the people to slowly wake up. We may reach an actual tipping point sometime in the next couple of months thanks to Covid and mandates.
There was no grand plan, only the extraordinary drama of life. There isn’t even a grand plan now. We’re going to beat them by sheer numbers and refusing to budge.
There isn’t even a grand plan now. We’re going to beat them by sheer numbers and refusing to budge.
I’d take this!
if you haven’t already check out some of Barr’s speeches, particularly the one at Hillsdale College. His attitude about what his duties were and what he encountered dealing with Prosecutors and agents was pretty revealing.
The question I’ve always had and still have no clue as to The Answer; how are the above all connected? Are they all working together? Or, just carrying out their own agenda(s)? Sundance has cleared up parts of it (4th Branch etc) – some more of that today. Excellent stuff; all of it. But the rest of the above? Maybe Sundance has cleared up all of it and I haven’t read it.
Let’s just say they do take down the U.S./the World. To the victor goes the spoils. But if different factions are working to bring us down, would they divide the spoils? = Doubtful. History would tell us, after getting rid of us Peons, they’d turn on each other and start warring with and killing each other?
EyesWideShut – what do they have connecting them? An insatiable lust for the taxpayer money and government control of the U.S. GDP. They are parasitical hyenas, preying off the American consumer, taxpayer. They cooperate and negotiate with one another to keep the money flowing and the U.S. economy just well enough to keep producing money for them, and not so sick as to kill the golden goose.
They are all vermin. No negotiations will work. No threat of legal action will cause them to fear. Our handicap is that to preserve the government and our constitution, we have to work within the government limiting constitution to eliminate them, when the hyenas own the government. They have no such morals, or care about keeping the infrastructure of the Republic intact.
The only solution is the same as Jeffersons answer to the barbary pirates — elimination. Problem is they are ingrained within us.
Is anyone going to ask Joe about this.. What did he know, when did he know it?
quid Pro china Joe is still trying to find his old democrat KKK robes he used to wear with Democrat Senator Robert KKK Byrd who was a Grand Cyclops
At this stage in his dementia, I doubt he can remember how to tie his shoes.
I thought that Trump had declassified everything. Why is Maria only talking about 2 documents of importance? Depending on where Durham is coming from (and i am not sure i trust him) we may never see the truth in the thousands of documents that Ratcliffe gave him. They should have been revealed to we the people.
Trump wanted to declassify everything, but he needed approval from the crooks in DOJ and the IC. Sundance has covered this issue repeatedly.
Obama is a political child of the Muslim Brotherhood.
If Clinton tells Obama to jump Obama asks how high.
The Muslim Brotherhood infiltrated the democrat party. Huma Abedin is their top agent. pervert Carlos Danger Anthony Weiner was married to her to monitor her for another government that is in alliance with saudi Arabia
https://hds.harvard.edu/links/harvard-university-muslim-alumni
Did anybody on the planet really think Obama was not born in Kenya ?
Recently in a trip to Africa Obama declared proudly that he wasn’t born in the US. He admits to being born in Kenya where all the proof and investigations have pointed to for years.
https://newswithviews.com/michelle-obamas-new-book-i-will-never-forgive-trump/
He’s also been caught more than once calling michelle Michael
I’ve always wondered whether he was illegitimate. And Momma just picked the “father”that was the most exotic….. a little like that movie…Mamma Mia!
The Nuremberg Trials lasted four years. 1945-1949. TRIALS. The worst scum on earth were
brought to justice. Durham has only got some small fry and will run this out till midnight before President Trump’s next inauguration.
The Soviet scum got away scot free except for evil sob trotsky
I don;t understand why, now that he is out of office and a private citizen.. President
Trump doesn;t SUE these people.. for what they did to him.
Don’t forget what Obama said his legacy was and I quote:
“My legacy will be an America brought down to the level of the rest of the world ” end quote.
When Obama produced (yes, ‘produced’) that bogus birth certificate from Hawaii, it listed the name of a hospital that was not even there when he was born. The real evidence for this columnist was that in the “Race” box, it stated that he was…African American. Wrong! The term used in the early 50s for a black person was NEGROE. The African American ID came much later. So that was a clear tip off to the phoniness of that so-called deceptive “birth certificate.”
https://newswithviews.com/is-this-obamas-birth-certificate/
We also got him calling michelle Michael and that his faith is muslim.
All mainstream media whores need to be indicted….from CEOs to the tv talking heads
The ownership of most of it is in the hands of “people” (?) whose ancestry goes back to the mass murdering liberal insane asylum known as the Soviet Union
Or, if you wanna go further back, to the land where Jesus was born.
Also owners of media corporations, and print media….. newspapers, internet sites, magazines
They need more than indictments.
It’s all propaganda in one way or another… it’s as much news as pro wrestling is sport.
If the outside the government defense is available to Team Obama, Team Hillary has access to it too.
Bolsheviks clearing out the Menshaviks. Or the Jacobins getting rid of the Girondins.
Seth Rich
Along with all the other folks in the Clinton orbit who died of suicide or accidental death.
John Ratcliffe said anyone associated with the Steele Dossier’s creation, peddling and use, are in criminal jeopardy.
Would that include the criminal mastermind, Hillary Clinton? Would that include former FBI Andrew McCabe, who’s pension was restored, and legal fees recouped ? Would that include FBI James Comey, who collects royalties from book sales ? I think not.
Little fish may be snared. The big fish are counting their money and enjoying their freedom. It’s a corrupt system, that rewards these criminals, who are not accountable and never prosecuted.
Yes, to all.
John Radcliffe is no fool. He was ebullient today.
Of course, he could be wrong.
Sundance, I love your analyses, I love the site (as many commenters know). But, I am beginning to understand (personally, just imvho) that you are not a man. Not a woman. You are undoubtedly led by a man (or woman, but feels like a man to me)- but, ‘Sundance’ is a group. Perhaps even a group of ex CIA/DOJ/FBI/NSA who, for whatever reasoning/ or purpose (guilt? betrayal? redemption? who knows??) are using their combined talents/experience AND information to break down what is happening on a daily basis, for the public.
Because, you (whoever/whatever you are) break things down unlike anyone else I see on the public net.
/cheers to you, this Sunday. EXCELLENT piece, as always- but, this one is brilliant. /tiphat, “sir”
p.s. it would also explain the constant use of Tucker Carlson- who, so MANY give credit OR blame to, for ‘his’ work. But, it isn’t ‘his’ work- though, he likely does some or even much of it, given the particular piece- it’s the work of MANY in his crew: writers, purveyors, analysts, informers and more.
Tucker just works the front-side for the camera 😉
But, again- just a very personal opinion AND again- /THANKYOU to you, whatever/whoever the case may be.
RESIST, friends. Their bow is breaking and THEY KNOW IT.
Hillarys play of dirtying Obama up by showing he has a private server on her email server…. did not work, because Obama had Comey edit this out and call it a “senior government official”
june 27 2016 lynch meeting with bill
july 26, 2016 brennen briefing obama, on hillary planning to use russian narrative to hide her email server issue.
Absolutely brilliant synopsis and breakdown into plain English for readers to weigh the true gravity of this mess.
The is precisely why the military is the ONLY way to clean the swamp of these entrenched scoundrels.
Not smoking the ‘hopium’ hookah, rather reminding that the the true heros & defenders of our Constitution are people like Adm. Rogers, Gen Flynn, etc.
I hope and continually pray that there are still enough Patriots in our military & ‘spy’ agencies to not allow this cancer of sociopaths in our govt to continue, unpunished…
In the meantime, We the People must keep the heat on our local & state govt reps, and do our best to support America First candidates to represent us…
Godspeed!!!
Goddammit, Sundance, would you just cut to the REAL chase? Who is controlling The Black Jesus?
Soros.
Soros, Gates, Buffett etal are the public face of the Globalists.
There are many more in the shadows.
All roads lead to Rome and beyond.
And the GOP and McConnell know all of this and have chosen to keep it all to continue so long as they get their hush money in these horrific spending bills. Uggghhh
John Durham knows the qualifications to serve as a special counsel just as well as William Barr does. It would have been one of the first discussions they had when the job was offered. Perhaps someone will ask them both about this under oath.
Exactly why this seems strange.
Also, “TOLDYASO” seems a tad contrived. Durham plus how many investigator for 3+ years just to let us say TOLDYASO?
Does that not shatter the KISS principle (keep it simple stupid)?