An interview by Maria Bartiromo this morning highlights one of the dynamics almost invisible to most voices who speak on a granular level about the background of Spygate, and where they believe John Durham is going. In this interview, former Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe outlines the moment in August of 2016 when Team Obama (he uses John Brennan) tells the president what Team Clinton is doing.
To set the correct context to understand the importance of what Ratcliffe is outlining here, it is important to remember that inside the executive branch of government, heading into the 2016 election, the two distinct camps were operating based on their perspective of their individual best interests. Two distinct camps – Team Clinton and Team Obama.
Watch the interview while paying close attention to the dates and personalities that Ratcliffe is outlining. I will expand on the background to explain how these issues surface in the investigation of John Durham; where he will go and where he will not go. WATCH:
To understand the context Ratcliffe is explaining, it is important to go back to the relationship that existed between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. It is from this relationship when things start to fall into place, as the Clinton camp was operating in the year of the 2016 election. Grab a beverage, this is going to get weedy…
Deep political followers will remember well the 2008 Democrat primary between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. It was a brutal battle within the Democrat Party between radical ideologues (Team Obama) and the entrenched establishment old guard (Team Clinton).
Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton hated each other.
Team Obama were radical progressives with idealistic objectives to fundamentally change America. Team Clinton were power hungry politicians from a traditional Democrat perspective. The Clintons focused on power for the benefit of their own affluence and gain. In essence, team Obama were true believers (communists). Team Clinton were following their traditional path looking for power and wealth (crony capitalists). This underpinned the primary battle.
As an outcome of the battle, Team Obama won, but the PUMAS were born (ie. Party Unity My Ass).
To heal the DNC scars, although they still hated each other, Obama essentially gave Clinton the Secretary of State job so she could get what was always important, money. Giving her the SoS position allowed Hillary to keep making money for the Clinton Global Initiative, an international money laundering operation selling influence. Hillary accepted and did exactly that, selling influence to gain affluence throughout her tenure as Secretary.
The Clinton-Obama détente also came with an agreement. When Obama was done, he wouldn’t do anything to interfere with Hillary’s quest for the White House. But keep in mind, the underlying difference between Hillary and Obama (graft/power -vs- true believer/fundamental change) was always present in the two camps as they worked deep within the institutions of government.
Hillary used the State Dept as her own little fiat system. The State Dept was filled with like-minded Hillary supporters. When Hillary left the Obama administration at the end of the first term, Obama agreed to accept a personal liaison, Clinton acolyte John Podesta, implanted into the White House to protect her future interests.
Few people have paid attention to the importance of that personnel move.
In the lead up to what would be the 2016 election, John Podesta was inside the White House as an advisor of sorts. However, John Podesta was not advising Team Obama. Instead Podesta’s job was to relay information to Clinton about what was going on inside the White House in 2014 and 2015.
Podesta was there because Clinton and Obama did not trust each other. Podesta, Clinton’s personal fixer, was in the White House to keep an eye on things. I have often reminded people of that dynamic with pictures of Podesta sitting in the wings:
Fast forward into 2016… Inside the executive branch, as the 2016 election primaries were taking place, you still had this Team Obama -vs- Team Clinton dynamic in place. Now however, the Clinton camp looked at their responsibility with an operational objective to get Hillary elected as the next administration.
Team Clinton included the continued majority of administration officials within the State Department. Inside the other institutions of the executive there were also Clinton team members, as well as officials looking to curry favor and advancement for the Clinton administration if she were to win the 2016 election.
In addition to almost all the State Dept officials, team Clinton included: Leon Panetta, Mike Morrell, Deputy AG Sally Yates, Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe, and a host of other key workers/opportunists within the institutions like: Lisa Page, Peter Strzok, David Laufman and the entire DOJ/FBI crew who worked on the Clinton email and Huma Abedin laptop investigation specifically motivated to clear Clinton including FBI Director James Comey.
Team Obama always consisted of entrenched loyalists to the bigger cause, and Valerie Jarret ensured everyone stayed focused on the Obama team priority of fundamental and structural change. Obama loyalists included: Lisa Monaco, Susan Rice, Samantha Powers, Kathryn Reummler, John Brennan, Denis McDonough, Jack Lew, Eric Holder/Loretta Lynch etc.
Team Clinton was using the machinery inside government to position Hillary for victory in November 2016.
When it became clear that Donald Trump was going to be her opponent (after Super Tuesday, March 2016), the political weaponization of that machinery now had a target – Donald J. Trump.
Clinton hired Fusion GPS in April 2016 for the purpose of targeting her opponent Donald Trump. The Clinton State Dept officials, Clinton Intelligence officials, Clinton DOJ and FBI officials and Clinton-allied federal contractors now had a target. The “I’m With Her” media were awaiting information to receive and deploy against her opponent. All of the various Clinton aligned internal and external operatives in government began executing the larger plan to assist, protect and advance Hillary.
♦ However, there was a problem – Through the summer of 2016, the Clinton activity was too intense and too transparent as conducted by participants inside government. The aggressive use of the intelligence community was creating a risk. After all, many of the operations being run to benefit Hillary politically were being done under the umbrella of the Obama administration.
If Hillary Clinton’s crew went too far… which they did…. they could be putting President Obama in a position of compromise. That was a problem for Team Obama loyalists and the people who had worked too hard on the fundamental change.
Team Obama did not want to see their successful accomplishments and ongoing objectives put into a spotlight of illegality because Team Clinton was using the machinery of Obama’s administration to target her political opposition. THAT background was the topic of the August 2016 meeting Ratcliffe is drawing attention to today.
CIA Director John Brennan meeting with President Obama in the Oval Office in August 2016 is informing him of the visible nature of the weaponization of government that Team Clinton was executing.
Team Obama then gave Team Clinton a serious slap across the knuckles, telling them they better come up with a legal justification for their use of the intelligence community against Donald Trump…. THAT is AUGUST 2016… THAT is why the Clinton crew inside the DOJ and FBI operation needed to come up with a legal justification for their prior intelligence deployments…. THAT is why the DOJ/FBI needed the FISA warrant.
Following the warning provided by Team Obama, the Clinton team then put together a plan to use Carter Page as a vessel for a Title-1 search warrant that could be used as justification for their pre-existing use of the intelligence apparatus against Donald Trump. The FISA application was put together to justify the Clinton operations; however, the FISA application was weak-sauce…. thus, they needed the Christopher Steele dossier to take the place of a valid ‘woods file’ in the application.
Carter Page was selected because he was a known commodity to both the CIA and the FBI going back to his collaborative work in the Evgeny Buryakov case, and Carter Page was close enough tangentially to the Trump campaign to be valuable.
The ‘Trump is a Russian asset‘ narrative was already in place. Team Clinton had been grooming this false narrative for several months. Carter Page was a part of that narrative, and the DOJ/FBI using Page to get a Title-1 surveillance warrant eliminated the legal issues Team Obama was warning about.
The rest, as they say, is history.
The totality of all of that unethical and illegal activity is why defenses had to be activated in the aftermath of the 2016 election. Getting Robert Mueller and Andrew Weissmann into place was part of that urgently needed coverup and defense strategy. Andrew Weissmann and crew took control of the DOJ and targeted the White House to stop Donald Trump from exposing all the 2016 corrupt activity.
♦ How does this play out with John Durham? The answer to that question is found by going back into the original camp positions and then reminding yourself all the current Biden administration officials are also Obama loyalists.
No one from within the Obama loyalist camp will be touched by Durham. However, those who were in the Clinton camp can be targets of Durham depending on how close they are to the proximity of the dividing line between Clinton and Obama. Those who are close to the Obama line are more safe than those who are distant from it. That’s what we are seeing with John Durham.
Durham cannot cross the line that protects Team Obama, because he knows the barbed wire Bill Barr put down. Former AG Bill Barr gave Team Obama (which includes Democrat politicians in positions of power) a defensive weapon that sits in a drawer in case Durham exceeds his politically permitted mandate.
Under DOJ regulations [28 cfr 600], a special counsel must come from “outside government“; John Durham was not outside government and did not resign his position prior to the appointment. Bill Barr gave the appearance of a special counsel appointment while knowing the legal validity could easily collapse upon challenge (if the Biden administration choose):
§ 600.3 Qualifications of the Special Counsel.
“(a) An individual named as Special Counsel shall be a lawyer with a reputation for integrity and impartial decisionmaking, and with appropriate experience to ensure both that the investigation will be conducted ably, expeditiously and thoroughly, and that investigative and prosecutorial decisions will be supported by an informed understanding of the criminal law and Department of Justice policies. The Special Counsel shall be selected from outside the United States Government. Special Counsels shall agree that their responsibilities as Special Counsel shall take first precedence in their professional lives, and that it may be necessary to devote their full time to the investigation, depending on its complexity and the stage of the investigation.” (link)
Obviously Bill Barr is a smart man. He would know the regulations he cited would require the special counsel to come from “outside the U.S. government,” thus such a simple flaw cannot be looked upon as anything except purposeful. Should John Durham get too close to the Obama line of protection, the political system will defend itself by highlighting that John Durham has no legal authority. That’s how DC protects itself.
Bill Barr was the Bondo application, John Durham is the spray paint.
The final accountability you are being provided by the Durham probe is your ability to snark and yell “I toldyaso” at the leftists and political media. That is why John Durham is providing “speaking indictments“.
Durham is purposefully giving all of the right-wing media, and the deep-weed followers of Spygate, fuel for their righteous indignation -an opportunity to yell ‘TOLDYASO‘- in the indictments of those who are a long way from the Obama dividing line. That’s where it stops.
The “Durham Report” (everyone was talking about) will likely be a final assembly of Durham indictments put together in a book format.
The allowable targets for Durham can be defined as those Clinton team members who were furthest away from Team Obama.
This is just the basic replay of the 80’s. In the 80’s the FBI infiltrated and illegally ran Whitey Bulger. Then Muller came in to investigate the FBI then Durham came in and investigated Muller and Statute of Limitations was reached and nobody went to jail.
Same time frame the whole Panama and the BCCI banking scam. Barr was brought in to clean that up AT THE SAME TIME CLEANING UP THE CLINTONS AND BUSH’s TRANSPORTING DRUGS TO THE USA AND WEAPONS TO CENTRAL AMERICA.
All in all nobody of relevance ever went to jail. Who wants to bet that somebody will go to jail this time? Ill give 35k to 1 odds lol.
Always living 10 steps behind till you find out your history and find out the same players play the same game for decades.
Did you all know that the Steele Dosier was written in 2007 by Glen Simpson? Lol
They’ll never stop till someone goes to jail.
Friend, I think it’s beyond stopping with some jail sentences. Think about what would stop it in it’s tracks….you know what it would take, right? See. I knew you you did.
does the name Nicolae Ceaușescu ring a bell?
Mueller really had nothing to do with the Whitey Bulger corruption investigation; he was only in the Boston US atty office for a short time in the mid 80’s and was just an assistant, didn’t run the office. He was long gone by the time the Bulger corruption investigation came to life. Read this. https://www.bostonmagazine.com/2008/08/21/the-martyrdom-of-john-connolly/
that’s definitely what you should be focusing on. that is crucial right there.
Im sorry but you are wrong lol. Mueller was the head of the Criminal Division as Assistant U.S. Attorney, then as Acting U.S. Attorney. When he was acting he was complete head. That is exactly why he was put there. Just like after 9/11 he got the emergency 2 year extension as FBI director.
Here is what Louie Gohmert said at the time. “Mueller’s minions helped mobster Whitey Bulger eliminate mob competitors.” Here is the published report: https://www.hannity.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Gohmert_Mueller_UNMASKED.pdf
I have done many write ups on Muller over the decades and there is much more than just this, this is just easier. Here is another write up on how he was an accomplice of hiding the corruption and protecting Bulger. https://www.independentsentinel.com/barrs-investigator-john-durham-once-probed-mueller-in-a-shocking-case/
I wish I had all my stuff I use to have on google drive then I could do this proper but I have almost moved completely of the net. I still comment time to time on websites:)
Thanks
Excellent piece of analysis. I would only quibble with one tangent, but one that explains Hillary’s reaction to the 2016 election, and perhaps adds an additional dimension to the depth of the hatred between the two camps.
FTA: “As an outcome of the battle, Team Obama won [the 2008 democrat primary].”
Well, not really. Obama didn’t win that primary. It was stolen from Clinton and HANDED to Obama. Remember, in Michigan, half the delegates were taken from Clinton and GIVEN to Obama, even though Obama was not even on the Michigan primary ballot. As I recall, the reasoning was something like “but if Obama HAD been on the ballot, he PROBABLY would have won half the delegates.” And that was only one of the multiple states with shenanigans that pushed Obama ahead of Clinton.
Hillary was mugged, abused, and left bleeding on the floor by Obama cutthroats. You know, the ones who only a decade before would have been fetching coffee for her husband.
So ….. in 2016, when Trump won in a surprise to everyone (except us), in a PTSD flashback it was 2008 all over again for Clinton. She went blind bat shit crazy. In her mind she was just mugged a second time. She still believes it, and no one will ever be able to disabuse her of that belief.
Those cutthroats are in the Whitehorse now. Beyond tenacious fanatical tyrants. Hillary has lived in a state of denial for a long long time.
We were outside the hotel in northwest DC in 2008 before the election where the DNC’S Rules Committee was meeting.
A huge group of Clinton supporters had gathered to protest the theft of delegates from Clinton to Obama in Michigan and Florida.
That was the beginning of PUMA–Democrat Clinton fans who knew what Team Obama was up to and were outraged that they stole her delegates. They switched parties rather than vote for Obama because of his Machiavellian tactics.
It was a wild scene. I remember a group of women saying Donna Brazile had betrayed Clinton.
What I never understood was why the ruthless killers Bill and Hillary didn’t create a dossier on Obama in 2008. They must have had a lot of dirt on Bathhouse Barry.
I also wondered WHY Hillary didn’t deploy all of the known missiles that could have taken out Barry in 2008…she was the original one who floated the birth certificate issue after all and she is well known for having files on almost everyone in DC. What Team O had on her to keep her quiet must be pretty significant because they forced her to back down and take the SOS job, which was clearly just a consolation prize for keeping her mouth shut. She did manage to parlay it into MILLIONS of dollars, but she clearly expected Team O to give her far more full-throated support than they did in 2016 and now the hatred between the two camps is palpable. I am sure she has all the dirt but she also knows what would happen to her if she revealed any of it…
She and SloJoe are two peas in a pod – common grifters with overinflated egos, who have used their power to enrich themselves and their families, but not really bright enough to be allowed into the inner circle of power of those who are really running the show now, IMHO!
Montagnards vs Girondins.
She did. Camp Hillary were the one’s that started the Obama ‘birther’ story.
Because Pelicanno was indicted in 2006?
Sorry, PUMAs never officially switched parties. They just worked very energetically against OZero. However, the Clintons were who they thought were God’s gift to mankind, Especially Bill (Big Dog).
I was a PUMA…she was screwed but she conceded and went along with it…
Rush used to refer to Hillary as “the most abused woman in Washington”.
If you mean Hillary believes she Stole the election fair and square and it didn’t work out then I can agree to that.
Hi Trapper,
I think you nailed it. The bad blood and Obama’s strange ascendency were also verified by Patrick Byrne (Overstock CEO):
Reflections on Barack H. Obama
When I got to know Brad and told him that he should be the first Black president of the United States, he told me that there was another, a Black man who had gone through Harvard Law a year or two ahead of him, named “Barack Obama”. He said that Obama had already been singled out as the man who would become the first Black President, and that this had been widely understood his whole way through Harvard Law, where his path (unlike Brad’s) had been strewn with roses.
https://www.deepcapture.com/2019/10/reflections-on-barack-h-obama/
I really like to know who “they” were that selected Obama. And here is another article, detailing a blackmail scheme between Obama & Clinton:
The Hillary Clinton Bribery-&-Blackmail & Maria Butina Intoxicate-Rape-&-Murder Deep State Stings Finale
What’s going on, Patrick, is that at this point President Obama has his people across the federal bureaucracy, but especially the Department of Justice. Hillary is going to be president for eight years and nothing is going to stop that, but while she’s president the evidence about bribery you were part of gathering is going to be sitting on a “Bunsen burner” inside the DOJ, and the hand on that Bunsen burner is going to be the hand of one of Barack Obama’s people. If Hillary is a good girl, defends Obamacare etc., that hand will keep the Bunsen burner on “Low”. If she is a bad girl, starts thinking for herself, that hand [mimes twisting a dial] will turn the Bunsen burner to “High”. That way, for the eight years she is President, Hillary is going to be managed by Barack Obama. Then Hillary is going to step down, and Michelle is going to run… And Patrick, that’s the plan.
Instead they said, “Patrick, this mission has been scrubbed. We need you to forget every moment of it. We mean it. You must erase every second of this from your memory.” Accompanied by stern, menacing, looks as they gauged my reaction.
Here is the explanation they gave me in a nervous, even panicked, tone:
Hillary Clinton is going to be our next president and nothing can stop that now. The day she becomes President, the first thing she is going to do is send her people over to the FBI and find out who was part of investigating her, and we are all going to be destroyed. That includes you, Patrick. This mission has been scrubbed from the highest level.
https://www.deepcapture.com/2020/10/finale-the-deep-states-hillary-clinton-bribery-blackmail-sting-the-maria-butina-rape-murder-gambit/
I really wonder WHO the Democrats sold themselves to? And with all that going on, rigging an election is completely imaginable as was the disturbance Trump created to their plan. Basically, apart from Trump, the US Government is corrupt to its core. IMHO
Hello Anon – Thank you for the links. Somehow I did not know of that site. Now I know what I will be doing this week. Hah!
Some have suggested that Barrie was groomed by the IC his whole life. Fake family photos, the way cleared through college (no one seems to remember him at Columbia), early undergraduate connections to Chicago families, scrubbed New Party membership that Corsi dug up, and on and on. But even with all that, look for the video of him leaving his first security briefing after his first election but before he took office. I can’t find video of it, but I remember watching it on TV news that night. He looked visibly shaken, ill, scared. I have always believed he was reminded who really runs the show, just in case he had forgotten. Obama is just another front. He stands in front of the entrances to some very weird rabbit holes.
New Globalist Fascism. It’s what’s for dinner.
Mussolini said the definition of fascism is a government and large corporation merger.
Fascism used to have a nationalist element it no longer has. The corporations are now multinational corporations with no allegiance or loyalty to any particular country. They’ve been selling out America and American citizens for decades. Cozying up to China, sure, but they will sell China out to someone else the moment they can make a buck doing it.
How about Clinton stealing the primaries from comrade Sanders?
I was a PUMA. I went to the Dem convention not as a delegate but as a Hillary supporter…we had our own demonstrations to show our support. You are right; the nomination was stolen from her and the corruption of the Dems was what led me to never vote Dem again for anything. But what I also saw in Hillary’s behavior was her total dedication to the Dem party over her supporters. I remember she said something like, what is wrong with them (her supporters)..I stick with the party or something like that. If she would have fought for nomination, she could have had it. Her delegate supporters were just waiting for her to say something. But she caved…
Why was Hillary not arrested during President Trump’s four years in office?
Because Trump would have been impeached and convicted before the Sun set by the Uniparty.
You have to have hard, crystal clear evidence she was giving the orders. Nobody, and I mean nobody, in the Clinton machine is going to talk without facing a lifetime of incarceration. There are many people buried who dared to cross the Clintons. Whether you want to consider that a conspiracy theory or not is up to you. But as far as I’m concerned, they are very dangerous people, with the money and the connections to make such things happen.
They framed a President didn’t they?
Hillary’s server with the back door to China should have been enough to convict her. However, Peter Strzok was the lead investigator on that case.
A notoriously short lifetime of incarceration.
They are all cooked in team Hillary
Huma too
And Hillaries other aid just died and no autopsy will be performed
I have long thought that Hillary was/is the brains/brawn/bullets/knives of the pair, Slick was just the fronting, down-home personality needed for public display.
Bill is the brains; Hillary is the hatchet man.
“[T]hey are very dangerous people, with the money and the connections to make such things happen.”
If the Clintons fall, they will take a lot of enemies down with them.
They TRIED to frame a President. If they had been successful President Trump would have been hung and while the noose was being placed over his head not one of them would have had the courage to confess to their crimes. They along with the media would have reveled in the historic hanging of traitor Trump. The people who ran this operation are absent of a moral compass and deserve to be put in prison for the rest of their evil lives. Sadly we are stuck with a President who himself played a part in all of this. It was after all reported that Biden who suggested using the Logan Act against Michael Flynn.
Better question, will both Obama and Hillary be arrested during President Trump’s second term?
If it happens, Trump is the Man/President to do it; but, just think of the opposition he will face in getting it done; he’s got to have full-term, same Party control of the Congress first off, that’s his only chance. And that’s not the only condition.
No, not Obama, he’s “The Big Cheese”, they will blow up the world before they let anyone get to him. Hillary, on the other hand , is fair game, the MOAB (Mother of All Beasts), that’s the top prize in Durham’s investigation. Obama’s group doesn’t include Hillary, they don’t want her involved in “The Plan”. They offered her a deal she couldn’t refuse…Uncle George took her aside and said, “you step back, let Barak do the first 8 years, the second part of The 16 Year Plan will be yours! We promise, you will be the president in 2016! ” If Hillary was in on the “real” plan, she would have ran with Obama as VP, they would have won in a landslide! They didn’t trust her, still don’t, they’ve cut ties, she’s on her own….Durham is picking ’em off, one at a time, working his way up the ladder…I do think her days are numbered, they’re going to get her….It’s just going to take awhile
no. trump will cave again like he did the first time. like he did with covid/vaxes etc.
You are so clueless. Have not not read anything. Can you not understand the depths they will go to. He is lucky to be alive. He work his tail off despite having the entire apparatus trying to stop him. He asked for a vaccine but that is not what they had in mind. They admit now it is not vaccine. Who would have believed anything this evil was going to happen? You???? Gezzzz!
So ungrateful.
Stop putting the blame on him. There is enough real evil to focus on and take down.
What I’m wondering is why Bill Barr is/was protecting the Obama people?
Amazing to me that actually they all got away with this. Maybe a few on the bottom will be scapegoats but those at the top spent probably billions of OUR money in their dirty games against each other and there won’t be any meaningful punishment.
Crime pays if you’re in DC. This is why i’m completely against tax increases – since they have enough money to spend on crap like this they don’t need any more of our money. …no matter what they say it’s for.
Barr protects the Uniparty, and any other beneficial outcomes are incidental.
I’m which team do Bruce and Nellie Ohr fall into? They’ve got their fingers all over the Steele document- will they be protected?
So far, Durham has not arrested/indicted Government Employees/Contractors. The indictment of Sussman makes the excuse that the FBI would not have pursued Alfa Bank had Sussman told them who he was working for.
That’s also the excuse Strzok made on Maddow the other night. The “we were duped” excuse.
Durham can’t target the Government Employees until he establishes that the Government Employees were not duped.
I always get good answers from the Treepers! Thank you!
Nellie’s a Stalinist. Team Obama.
Thanks for that LOL
I have previously have posted this old analysis Of Durham’s role in the Whitey Bulger/FBI corruption investigation/prosecution in Boston back in the 90’s. His job was to wipe up the mess off the floor, nail a fall guy (Zip Connelly), and protect other FBI/DOJ higher ups. History likely will repeat itself. https://www.bostonmagazine.com/2008/08/21/the-martyrdom-of-john-connolly/
most of the readers don’t want to know the truth. they want to pray, think up childish names for traitors and do SFA. Many such cases.
If Obama could crush Clinton he would have sent her to the dustbin of history. Problem was neither Obama nor Clinton could close the electorate in their campaigns. That became the fulcrum forcing Obama offering SoS to Clinton.
While I accept SD’s description of the two I don’t believe it was a battle of two ideologies, only who would get Treasury coin.
An uneasy truce between two con artists
Arab Spring/Egypt was Obama for ideology
Arab Spring/Libya was Clinton for reconstruction grift
I would not put the 0 down as pure Stalinist. I believe ther is a fondness for a well stuffed bank account, He is just a little mor slick than Willy.
We’ll see. Still we most understand all of Washington have a Golden Handle, we all have seen they just pull the handle and it’s all flushed away. America Justice system has a list in their desk of Do Not Touch.
Rehashing old news. The truth was out there but not in the complicit MSM. Get rid of Trump at all costs. Durham should have many more indictments by now. I suspect that he will ultimately with the full support of the DOJ continue until he retires. And by the way who is running this country at the present moment. Same criminals.
Be ready.
I heard it will be one per week. Each one moves up the chain
But we heard that at least a week ago didn’t we? I wouldn’t hold my breath.
honey..you will be pleasently surprise soon…..
That picture Hillary reminds me of character Casper Gutman in the Movie “The Maltese Falcon” when he gives up is goon Wilmer…”ah Wilmer you were like a son to me but…”
She will give up all her confederates willingly to save her own skin.
No doubt. But first you have to get somebody to roll on her. And Durham isn’t going to put that much effort into it.
As I posted elsewhere earlier. Low hanging fruit to please most. And then he rides off into the sunset to retirement to
write a book or two.
Do you understand the term “patsy”. Nobody has to roll, Hillary just stands out of the way and lets others take the fall. The fix is in an only patsy gets nailed no matter what they say.
In the Maltese Falco…Wilmer rolled on no body…he was slected to be the fall guy and everyone else was covered no matter what Wilmer claimed.
Hillary is covered as long as she stay away from running for office as she said she would 2-weeks ago.
Absolutely, she’d step on her mother’s back to get what she wants
That picture of smiling Obama ……rolled up sleeves like he knows how to work. It’s deceptive.
And the broad white tooth grin…….never trust a fake smiler….it’s deceptive.
Sundance can you provide timelines for:
Trump hiring staff attacked by the feds,
The feds running spy ops on those staff,
The creation of various investigations of those staffs, including those outside the main Crossfire X ,
and
Compare them to the timelines in the Durham indictments.
Somehow we are missing the use of these investigations to cover up their illegal actions that existed prior to Hillary’s scam. Like Rogers’ discovery of and attempt to shut down abuse.
carter left the campaign in September, prior to the First FISA
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Manafort was forced onto his campaign by the Republican Convention stand off – where Paul Ryan said he had to
PDJT’s previous campaign manager was taken out by the female reporter that crossed the typical secret service barrier to touch PDJT.
And Manafort had worked with the Podestas in Ukraine, who were doing the exact same thing, Chalupa had helped set up the trap for the Trump campaign to hire Manafort which like you said was pushed on him by Rino/traitor/uni party members. To Manafort’s credit, it looks like he didn’t go along with the shakedown
I have felt for a while now that the charges of lying to the FBI is a weak sauce charge, as it is a pass over for the greater criminal activity. It also sets a ground for the FBI to get a pass because they were lied to, even though they were part of the lying and efforts to push forward with the phony dossier, all so they could damage President Trump and make no mistake, they that believed President Trump would resign rather than fight impeachment, even if it was all lies. The FBI and CIA believed if enough were thrown at President Trump he would just leave, like the usual sops with no backbones in the GOP.
The actions done were at the least sedition against the duly elected President. The list of conspirators is far larger than these three turkeys. Clinesmith got a handslap, wink and nod for a job well done. It ultimately doesn’t harm him.
It is so depressing to think these scum brought about such turmoil, including the releasing of Covid, and the GOP went along because too many of them saw PDJT was shutting down their paths to more riches.
FBI “lie to me, I need your lie for my own corrupt purposes.”
The dc level of corruption, sets the standard for other countries governments to emulate. There isn’t a criminal organization in the world, that can match the dc machine.
Putin, however, runs a very close second. And has an equally long trail of corpses to prove it.
So basically, it’s just more kabuki and smoke and mirrors.
Never expected anything different.
Ahh, Barr, the Clintons are old and not commies; Obama and his acolytes are younger and more dangerous.
I love reading Sundance and his polar opposite, Technofog. I’m kind of reminded of William Jennings Bryan and Clarence Darrow. I would love to see a debate between those two!
We are friends.
You two sure read the tea leaves differently. I’m constantly going back and forth between your take and his to figure out what the real picture is.
HL Mencken said “no one ever lost money underestimating the intelligence of the American public” and this Durham caper just goes to prove it.
Besides being an amazing researcher and analyst, Sundance is a master storyteller and perusing his years long accounts of what is really going on is like reading one of the world’s best mystery novels.
We who come here regularly for our daily dose of the truth is stranger than fiction, know that nothing real is ever going to come of this. There will be no justice or happy ending for the American people. Just the satisfaction of knowing what really happened and continues to happen. It’s great background information, but at this point it’s hard to see what difference it’s going to make.
Regardless of the Durham charade, we are still faced with a monumental battle to save our Republic, a battle that seems to be getting more intense by the day.
I don’t have to list all of the gut punches we’ve taken since the Bidenistas came into power- you all know what they are.
Our task now is to survive with body and soul intact and keep our powder dry for what’s coming. It was Divine Providence that gave us our President Trump and I have to have faith that He will never let us down.
IMO he’s a Pat Buchanan for our time. That’s high praise imo
So Seneca, I am encouraged. You initially sounded hopeless, but in the end, I think you are saying you still hold hope for the hand of God (through Trump or other means) in the unfolding events of this country here on Earth?
The behind the scenes account would make a great book! I would sure like to know it all. Maybe after this is all over and we’ve won.
God is with us. I believe through my own personal experience.
Why would Obama allow Podesta in to the inner sanctum?
He could’ve as easily told Hillary to f…off.
You don’t think Clinton didn’t have compromat on Obama?
Knowing what we do of Hillary, she may have a copy of the 8-year lease agreement Barry signed for Sasha and Malia.
Hillary may be the lessee…
“ we already have our first gay President. Come on ! “
” Michelle’s a tranny. Everyone knows that “
—Joan Rivers ( rip )
She got murdered soon after. Her daughter won a judgement against the hospital
And so what if Durham crossed that line and indicted a few of team Obama? Doing so would shine some sunlight on the whole nefarious scheme and it’s players. Of course team Obama members would scream ‘foul’, but if that letter ‘in the bottom of the drawer’ were to be produced, then Bill Barr would have a lot of explainin’ to do about his ‘negligence’, but in the meantime anyone from the team Obama side of the line would have a whole lot of mud stuck to them and a hard time wiping it off. As is is, those on the team Clinton side of the line indicted by Durham will only get slaps on the wrist, but at least the nefarious plot has been uncovered, as has the Media’s disgraceful role in propagating it. Now let Durham cross the line and expose how team Obama was part of it. Barr’s “mistake” will be exposed. Rats will be scurrying everywhere and many will turn on each other. The s**t will really hot the fan. Mud sticks.
Sessions tapped Huber and Durham. Durham was US Atty for Conneticut at the time. When Barr made Durham an “official” Special Counsel, I understood Durham then resigned as US Atty.
I actually thought he had too Patsy, but Sundance’s line about the ‘letter in the drawer’ threw me a bit. Nevermind, let Durham keep digging!
Regarding § 600.3
Some of Mueller’s special counsel prosecutors where also special assistant United States Attorneys, which gave them a status separate from, and in addition to, the special counsel.
Could Durham employ a similar tactic to hand-off investigation/prosecution to those separate from his special counsel status?
This is happening Already
I haven’t heard about that. Not saying it hasn’t happened though. It was some sort of maneuver by Mueller which caught people by surprise.
Cannot believe people honestly thought real justice would be done. When has it ever? Did the JFK and RFK assassinations not tell people anything? There is only one real path to MAGA and it does not involve getting justice for past evil acts of the DS.
It’s us. We are the answer. It doesn’t happen quickly. It’s a daily doing of the right thing approach with active participation in communities and states. It takes time.
We the People.
Would that Durham be part of We the People.
So the Patrick Byrne story on how Team Obama used him to setup Hillary in a bride acceptance scheme makes sense. Yes?
No. Byrne is on the other team…. Fourth Branch.
Ah… yes… just reread your piece on the fourth branch. Appreciated
I read that piece and didn’t quite get the mention/correlation of Byrne or his role in the piece. The implication here is that he is operative for the 4th branch– to what purpose?
I follow Byrne on Locals — I always find him a bit squirrelly, with some suspicious posts. He and Jovan Hutton Pulitzer are close it appears.
So…. If I recall correctly, Donald Trump couldn’t declassify because a special counsel had been set in place which took it out of Trumps hands.
If that’s the case, and this has always been an illegitimate special counsel, why didn’t someone tell PDJT that Durham was illegitimate, and let PDJT declassify everything?
Why is this just now coming to the forefront?
Cause Durham is special council fully funded and garlands hands are tied
But apparently he’s not.
Great analysis. If Durham’s appt. was outside special counsel regulations, as it is, why would it matter if he goes after Clinton goons or Obama goons as both can use the same defense that his appt. is illegitimate? I must have missed something
Absolutely correct re the protection of the criminally corrupt Kenyan. It is beyond obvious that destructive piece of human waste will never be touched and neither will the Evil Hag with the blue dress staining husband. Way back during the ridiculous James Gomer Comey drool re the Evil Hag’s email scam it was obvious it was all about protecting the Kenyan
Well, we’re all looking as through a glass darkly. I dont think Durham is going to show his cards just yet. Not going to tip his hand. We know the evidence is there. It just has to be put together in an iron clad way to get the indictments and arrests. If it were you or I, we would be the proverbial ham sammich. Indicted because “of the seriousness of the allegations.” With this crowd, it has to be so tight you cant pass a molecule past it. So far he is having success. And amazingly, the clintons are having “health issues.”
‘Magine that ?
So is Devolution “real” or more bs?
I’d say not real, but hey ho, who knows with all the mis direction.
Info warfare is real.
“[T]he clintons are having ‘health issues’”
Bill and Hillary die suddenly of Covid-19 and their bodies are immediately cremated.
Hillary books a tramp steamer to Lesbos and Bill charters the Lolita Express to the Virgin Islands where he spends his retirement years deflowering the few remaining virgins that dwell there.
An extract below from a letter sent by a lifelong Democrat to Strobe Talbott:
“….you have contributed to the mainstream media’s gas-lighting of the American public. You have given credence to Trump’s often, but not always, false charge: “Fake News.” Once described as a Russophile, you now seem complicit in the creation of a nation-wide paranoid and hysterical Russophobia and neo-McCarthyism. “
Source
Durham has opened many eyes that previously could not see.
Dear Sonia,
After I read the Strobe Talbott open letter I was taken right down the Scheerpost rabbit hole!! Some of these people really hate PDJT and us!!
I was engrossed -supper will be a little late tonight. (thank you for the intro)
It’s a roll up bottom to top
An indictment a week is coming.
Expect it
Who knows if they go to zero and sleepy joe
But all The people uNderneath. That kept the crime going are going down
Many have sung and this 5 year mess was a coup
They so destroyed America—while we paid them.
I think to work out the impact Durham might have you’ve got to factor in the state of the country and the electorate, when this becomes common knowledge to people and the media will be forced to report on it. Gas prices, both domestic and fuel during winter, at an all time high, continued supply chain chaos, God knows what other Biden gaffes, misspeakings etc. A continued drive by the hard left to cement any gains, before 2022. He could just be the straw that is needed for a visible and angry preference break. All the while Trump is sniffing around in the shadows waiting, and team Obama know he won’t make the same mistakes twice and he’ll be out for revenge!.
Read the facial expressions
https://rumble.com/vos5tp-durham-delivers-damning-indictment-with-jim-jordan.html
They know who is going for a long rest
We are all just Vietnam vets
“Baby Killers”
With not one baby in sight
Tax money down the corruption hole all the same.
We are ants to the Two Party Evil Money Cult of D C!
Time for U S all to sting them, both parts , final pain !!!
Why would the swamp allow any convictions at all? Why would team Obama allow any convictions of team Clinton. Even if they don’t like each other, they still own the justice department and there is no one to stop them – not prosecutors, not legislators, not the media and not judges. Why allow any convictions at all?
“Why allow any convictions at all?”
So, Biden can pardon them?
They are worried about the 2024 election and they should be.
This was the appropriate charge for what Clinesmith did and when he was allowed to plea to a MUCH lesser charge with the preposterous excuse of it being “an unintentional mistake” I knew it was over.
https://www.justice.gov/crt/deprivation-rights-under-color-law
Wow. You are the best teacher in the world!! Namaste. ??????????
FWIW, I concur with this analysis and exposition. I remain unconvinced that liars, cheats, and thieves prosper . . . or remain invisible and thus exempt from disgrace. That said, and with all the fury being hurled at us for our having elected and re-elected Donald Trump, I see nothing to be feared or to justify anger at anyone or anything. Be patient, wait upon the Lord, is my counsel, FWIW. And meanwhile, do not shrink from doing what you want to do. He already knows our condition and why we are in it. Nothing is without a cause and a purpose, both. For example, consider how strong Americans are becoming by being forced to relearn the value of our freedoms.
A good example supporting the Obama/Clinton camp descriptions by Sundance is how silent Obama has been on the Russiagate nonsense.
Sure Obama would have nudged and tweaked a little here and there to help Clinton and hurt Trump, but in the end, he knew if things went sideways, everything would land at her Cankles.
Hey! We did things by the book. It was Hillary who did all the dirty work. – Duh Won!
My hopium balloon has been POPPED!….
On election night 2016 after having a complete mental breakdown with violence and BEFORE she called to congratulate President Elect Trump, it has been reliably reported that Hillary called 0bama and the first (of few) words she said to the bastard were “I’m sorry”.
The question is if Durham’s appointment violates department policy but does it violate federal law or the Constitution.
Many legal and Constitutional experts say the mueller appointment was illegal but yet he was allowed to finish his fake investigation cover up.
https://thefederalist.com/2018/05/31/3-reasons-rosensteins-special-counsel-appointment-illegal/
https://thefederalist.com/2018/05/21/3-big-takeaways-grassleys-oversight-demands-rod-rosenstein/
If Durham through the grand jury find that obama and biden were co conspirators in a federal crime, would it fall under fruit of the poisonous tree? Would they be untouchable just because his appointment violated department policy?
Why didn’t clinesmith use this information in his defense? Why didn’t sussman call this out? They are both lawyers.
If it is found that obama, biden, brennan, rice, and anyone else in the fbi/doj or obama administration broke the law they would still have to face legal consequences.
They’re all in the crosshairs
They are all complicit in allowing this to continue and handcuffed Trump from being President.
Trump incredibly handled both
I know it’s unlikely but this doesn’t rule out the Clintons getting it in the neck. In fact, might even suggest the probability is greater than 50%! If it happens, I’ll know – having now read this excellent analysis – not to indulge in any public “Told-ya-so’s”. But I will be drinking a crate of champagne on the quiet at home!
Do you want to save your country? Trust your own convictions. Trust your own faults. Know your limits and know your strengths. Plan and make good on your promise of freedom. Or forever know slavery.
“ Should John Durham get too close to the Obama line of protection, the political system will defend itself by highlighting that John Durham has no legal authority. That’s how DC protects itself.
Bill Barr was the Bondo application, John Durham is the spray paint.”
I knew Ol’Fatso was a plant since he “served” under GHWBush, the One World Order lover.
What a pitifully sad debacle our Great Republic faces because of these Evil Liars. On both sides of the despicable Isle.
Serious question: what’s to prevent Team Clinton from pulling the same stunt? Couldn’t they, similarly, say Durham is not authorized to charge because of his ineligibility?
Oh. I get it. Scratch that question.
Very interesting explanation of what happened. I think it is also important to look at where we are now and not allow ourselves to “fight the last war”.
Obama was raised a communist. Obama delighted in destroying America, and to that end, communists, and Islamists all sang Kumbaya together in the Obama administration. Once elected, Obama’s administration seemed to lean more toward the Islamic forces that were making inroads into our country. Hillary still had enough power that she that needed to be placated. Hillary had no convictions other than to enrich herself. She took the office of the presidency and ran it like Al Capone, selling America out of the back of a truck for pennies on the dollar. The globalists are really just smaller players and wanna-bees trying to remain relevant by raiding and destroying, but they don’t have the armies to conquer or hold territory once the more ruthless players like Russia, China or Islam come in and kick over their game. They will find they are the first raided and their spoils turned over to the most powerful nation states.
Where are we today? Who is calling the shots for Joe Biden. I don’t think anyone can really say. While we America isn’t dead yet, by any means, we have to realize that both the communists and the Islamists, wanna-be globalists and just the good old fashioned mobs (Chicago, SF, NY, NV, etc.) are now all vying against each other the spoils of an America brought to her knees. McConnell is clearly in China’s pocket, and the Biden (ie: Obama) crowd are pro-Islamist anti-Israel.
Let’s be real. These are groups that will embrace the motto of the enemy of my enemy is my friend, but ultimately they will not EVER get along. Just look at the slave camps in China to see what China thinks of Islam. And we all know that Islam hates communists. Russia and China may both be communist, but very different. Communism is just a word for suckers.
So who is in charge of our country right now, or Western Civ for that matter. It is very clear it is not We The People. Durham has been dispatched to throw some white wash over this mess so they can say it’s yesterday’s news in the next election, but who will benefit from winning the next election? Who is really in charge? Certainly not Biden and Harris. The Dems and Rino’s are just in the pockets of different interests. Our government is being run by foreign influence and mobsters, but all of these groups hate each other’s guts.
I’m glad that maria is not letting mark warner off the hook. He was just as bad as or worse than shift. You should have heard him in private – I did – off the rails Trump and Russia. Total abuse of his position on the gang. And you know what? A lot of people suffered under Mueller, what do you want to bet that same team D is behind the suffering of the J6 political prisoners?
If the indictments come against many all the way up to Hillary herself, then I would find some satisfaction although it would mean nothing to the future of this nation as things are going with Obama back in charge and invisible this time.
Go buy a case before it gets more expensive
Just let me know when they arrest the people who matter. Until then, none of it has any effect whatsoever on the lives of regular American citizens or the direction the country.
Reading the article first gave the Ratcliffe blurb more substance, and I have to admit that I was wrong believing that hilly and hussein had settled their differences in order to circle the wagons better to avoid further inquiries. Im sure hilly is now scheming to bring members of team hussein down if durham gets too close. Perhaps a few Arkancides are in the works?
Thanks for this sunlight SD.
The investigation (Ratcliffe said more indictments coming) could also test the durability of the two tiers of just-us if a couple of the big fish are indicted. Hoping for the best, but expecting less.
Couldn’t the two teams, being in (my term) ‘cold war’ against each other, weaken both? Past or present states of strengths understood, they both have vulnerabilities to exploit I would think. ??
Question: Is this the ‘End of the beginning or the beginning of the end’? As outlined below I have been waiting since may of 1960 for whichever! Soldier/Cop/Mercenary, Retired
RAPE, PILLAGE, PLUNDER; AMERICA YOU’VE BEEN HAD! AND…..IT’S YOUR OWN DAMN FAULT!
Before commenting on this article I must first thank my Lord. Lord, I’ve been waiting since the sixties to see just what it would take to get the American people to stand up and use the most important weapons they have (their voices and their votes) to throw the incompetent/corrupt/self-serving/witless politicians, bureaucrats, academicians, and media folks out on the street. No matter if it’s a needle in the arm, a brain dead president, election/voter fraud, and/or any other of the so-called progressives’ activities designed to drive the American people into nothing short of pure bondage. Just let the American people know that if they will stand tall many old vets/cops like me will come back to help (just so long as they don’t ask me tote one of those %$#@ M-60’s)!
Next, my thanks to President Trump for his role in exposing the entire military/industrial/political/deep state complex and the swamp they employ.
Last, my thanks to Godfather Joe, Crying Chuck, Loony Nancy, and so many others in the swamp. Special thanks to each of you for reinforcing my confession/lessons learned (see below) throughout your years in politics. Godfather Joe do you remember the time we listed you, Billy Clinton, and a whole gaggle of politicians as subjects in that international drug trade investigation? Hint, it was during your first term in the Senate. Why don’t you impress the folks by explaining the term, ‘Green Lining?’ Godfather Joe, you also have my congratulations in that you are one of the three subjects in that drug trade/money laundering investigation who have gone on to be President of the United States of America!
This article reinforces the confession/lessons learned (see below) first presented in 1989 (most presented in 1989, rest added during President Obama’s last two years in office and President Trump’s first year in office) to the citizens of this old soldier/cop/mercenary’s community while serving as their police chief.
A Soldier/Cop/Mercenary’s Confession/Lessons Learned
* The Seven C’s of Leadership according to a survey of 1646 Vietnam era ground combat veterans listed of the order of their importance (according to the vets) are; Candor, Competence, Consistency, Commitment, Courage, Compassion, and Courtesy. The reason the soldiers chose the word “candor” is because candor encompasses both omission and co-mission. To a combat soldier lack of absolute candor, be it co-mission or omission, are equal sins! In short, soldiers expect/demand absolute candor from their leaders before all else. Note: The democrats have proven they are masters of co-mission, while republicans have proven they are masters of omission!
* The American people are the most effectively lied to people in modern times thanks primarily to politicians, bureaucrats, academicians, and the media.
* The greatest threats to the American people are the corrupt and/or incompetent politicians/bureaucrats/academicians found at every level of government/academia, and the majority of the American so-called media.
* Soldiers do not fight first and foremost for their country, the flag, motherhood, girls back home, or apple pie! Before all else, soldiers fight for their fellow soldiers and their unit. Why? Because in every war/police action/whatever including WWII the strategies and tactics adopted by mostly incompetent/corrupt military and civilian managers (notice I said managers not leaders) were/are designed to maximize the profits of the military/industrial/political complex with little regard for the those personnel charged with employing the same. In short, the American soldier has been/is nothing more than a “mercenary” since 1969 with the creation of the “All Volunteer Army (VOLAR)”.
* The American Profession of Arms and our brothers/sisters in the Blue have failed to protect the American people from all of their enemies, both foreign and ‘most especially’ domestic.
* There are only two primary requirements to be a career soldier and/or cop in America. One must be smart enough to do the work and dumb enough to take the job.
* American soldiers and police officers must in addition to mastering all of their professionally mandated tasks learn to accomplish the same with at least one arm tied behind their backs and their vision impaired 50% or more.
* Far too many of the politicians, bureaucrats, academicians, and media types I have encountered during my years as a soldier/cop/mercenary I most kindly refer to as; self-serving, witless, cowards. Note: I originally referred to the aforementioned folks as; “Self-serving, witless, cowardly, pissants!” After retiring to the deep woods I dropped pissants once becoming acquainted with the little guys; in that I learned pissants are not self-serving nor witless, and certainly not cowards!
* After carefully watching the whole of the political class since May of 1960, I can say without reservation that most of the group will sell their souls and our bodies just to remain in power.
* Want to see what the United States of America will look like if the left takes control of the government? Take your pick: New York City, Baltimore, Chicago, Seattle, San Francisco, Los Angeles, or the complete packages; California, New York, Illinois, etc, etc, etc…..
* If the so-called Progressive movement continues unchecked a number of able veterans are going to be presented with a challenge/decision. Are the American people worth another drop of our sweat and/or our blood?
* The end goal of the elites and their minions is not (nor ever has been) socialism, communism, or capitalism. The elites of the world have used all manner of ideologies, religions, terrorism, brute force, etc. to drive the masses/peasants/serfs/whatever in one direction. That direction leads to one of the oldest forms of human control ever employed in the history of mankind. That form of human control is Feudalism!
* Arrogance plus ignorance equals stupidity (A + I = S).
Soldier/Cop/Mercenary, Retired
PS All of the lessons learned above (save the three added during the Obama and Trump administration) and the four mentioned below were written for the prelude of a book titled: “Rape, Pillage, Plunder; America You’ve Been Had!” (After Obama was elected to his second term I added; “And It’s Your Own Damn Fault!”). The book has not been published in that the Department of Defense has denied four requests to publish the same due to classified information they claim is in the book. That so-called classified information primarily deals with the number of politicians and bureaucrats sitting at the federal, state, county, and city levels of government during the Carter years who made the list of subjects in an investigation of the international drug trade and money laundering. Three of those politicians went on to be President of the United States of America. Four of the original lessons learned will remain unpublished in that I do not believe most of the Americans alive today can handle the level of anxiety that might be generated from their exposure. Few Americans can imagine the lengths so many have gone to destroy this nation just since President Eisenhower’s last year in office. I say that because that was the year I joined the army and have stood witness to the destructive policies first initiated by the Kennedy administration with folks like his brother Robert, L.B. Johnson, and Robert McNamara (Mac the Knife- soldier’s nickname for the #$%) laying the ground work for administrations that followed! Thus the reason for the two part prayer I said immediately upon learning that President Kennedy had been shot. First I prayed that God would spare him and second that the shooter was not a soldier from my unit, or any other military unit!
Well, Durham now has indictments inside:
Team Clinton (Sussman)
Team Contractor (Danchenko)
Team FBI (Clinesmith)
They are all just an extension of Team Hilary, of course.
If Durham was Bondo, why didn’t he retire after the Clinesmith indictment?
No leaks. Small teams. Expansive indictments.
ShipwreckedCrew sees Durham widening the target field – and he now gas 4 individuals INSIDE THE ROOM! – not just emails
Clinesmith
Sussman
Iggy
William Bennett – White Hat FBI Agent