Full Interview – AG Bill Barr Discusses IG Report and FBI Institutional Issues With Political Corruption…

U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr has sent the totality of the U.S. media into spasmodic fits of apoplexy today as he discusses the findings of the DOJ inspector general review of a highly corrupted FISA process.

The Attorney General talks about how the FBI weaponized their official duty in an effort to carry out what seems to be a political agenda.  Mr. Barr goes into detail with his thoughts on the current criminal review assigned to U.S. Attorney John Durham; and the unfortunate issues with a group at the top of the organization who politicized the FBI as an investigative agency and used an alliance of media assets to achieve political goals.


Many people are writing and asking for my personal opinion of AG Bill Barr. I shall provide that below.


Thoughts: Leading up to the trial of George Zimmerman he had two attorneys: Mark O’Mara and Don West. Don West was the deliberate and angered attorney who was rightly furious over how a completely false case was assembled against his client. The entire CTH community agreed on the value of Don West.

(Left to Right) Mark O’Mara, Don West, Mark Geragos.

However, Don West wasn’t the lead attorney… there was another, Mark O’Mara.

Mr. O’Mara gave the intentional impression of being above it all, elevated above the politics, and affable to the groups who wanted to hang Zimmerman in the town square and also understandable toward the defenders of Zimmerman who recognized the rail-roading.

O’Mara became a Rosetta stone. Some Zimmerman supporters saw O’Mara as self-serving, duplicitous, cunning (not in a good way) and essentially deceiving his client by not trying to be assertive in defense. Others saw O’Mara as smart, prudent and staying above the fray to be more influential toward the benefit of his client amid circles of media opposition.

The strong differences of opinion over O’Mara were fought on the pages of CTH for over a year. Pro-O’Mara and Anti-O’Mara we both good groups of people; excellent and passionate people; but each saw Mark O’Mara in a different way.

Personally I did not see Mark O’Mara in a good light. I predicted his positioning was to gain a lucrative media gig at the conclusion of a fraudulent trial. [He took a CNN contract within three weeks of trial ending]  But more important than that recognition of selfish sensibility was the evidence.

The evidence was overwhelming (at least to CTH in 2012) that Witness #8, Rachel Jeantel, was an imposter.

The anonymous Witness #8 was the only reason the State of Florida could get an arrest. Witness #8 was also manufactured by the corrupt Scheme Team of Trayvon’s family.

Completely made up.

Incredibly the corrupt State of FL prosecution team consisting of SAO Angela Corey and Bernie De La Rionda went along with a criminally corrupt prosecution using evidence they knew was manufactured.

If we knew the manufacturing of evidence to be true… demonstrably and provably true.. well, Don West and Mark O’Mara certainly knew it to be true.

Yet Mark O’Mara did nothing about it… EVER. O’Mara knew the state had manufactured evidence. O’Mara Explicitly knew his client was being railroaded by a criminal enterprise carried out by the State of Florida and Trayvon Martin Family. And Mark O’Mara never brought it up before, during, or even after the trial… Not once.

Attorney Mark O’Mara won the case because the case itself was a fraud. However, the “case” never should have gone to trial. In my passionately frustrated opinion O’Mara should have called out the fraud and defended his client by avoiding the ridiculous trial.

[NOTE: Seven years later, with Witness #8 admitting to the fraud, George Zimmerman is rightly suing all of those who participated.]

Why do I bring up this example?

Because in my opinion, having watched nine months of his professional effort, right now the metaphor is: Bill Barr is Mark O’Mara, the U.S. Constitution is George Zimmerman, and we’re about to go to trial again.


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572 Responses to Full Interview – AG Bill Barr Discusses IG Report and FBI Institutional Issues With Political Corruption…

  1. MaineCoon says:

    I agree and have so stated my concerns a few times before, in fact, the first time was the very day before Sundance first stated his reservations.

    Mr. Barr has done nothing to actually defend the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, nor even the Office of the Presidency. So, we have a fake impeachment, yet, a-soon-to-be-impeached President, historically, forever. Barr could/should have released the declassified docs. I repeat my sentiment that the President should have been defended first and foremost for his sake of and the sake of the country. Instead, the excuse became that Durham will need the docs. Too little. Too late.

    AG Barr chose not to defend President Trump. He chose to cover up for RR et al until all co-conspirators have left the agency.

    Barr did nothing more than Sessions when it came to defending PDJT. In fact, by both of them doing nothing, they allowed 3 years of fake-Mueller-prosecutorial overreach, co-conspirators continuing to utilize innumerable illegal “about” searches.

    Just like O’Mara knew all about the fake trial, Barr also knew everything and he did nothing. He let it all ride out, including holding back the release of a 5-month overdue OIG Report as that might have interfered with the impeachment timeline.

    And, of course, complicit-cover-up Lindsay made sure he announced weeks ahead that the OIG release date of 12.9 so the impeachment co-conspirators knew their deadline timeframe. He’s played his part.

    This has been a bad play and every person (Dems & R/RINOs) had a part to play. They all play their characters and the play is about finished.

    I have come to hate what they have done to PDJT, his wife, family, Cabinet, administration, nominees, patriots & to me. I have come to hate them. I have no remorse in hating these, because. over three years they have shown and repeatedly proven that they are pure evil during the work of satan. It’s one thing if a person is a little off course in life. It’s entirely another when they deliberately plan and intentionally do extreme evil deeds, repeatedly. I hate the sin of this nature.

    My prayer is that God will quickly bring His justice to all these evil people.

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    • California Joe says:

      AG Barr got rid of Rosenstein, Mueller, Weissman and 17 angry Democrat prosecutors without so much as a whimper out of all of them! I’d say that was a pretty damn good accomplishment after they had three years to run amuck unchallenged. How can you say AG Barr hasn’t defended President Trump!

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      • MaineCoon says:

        Because Barr never released the extensive list of de-classified documents that Sundance repeatedly posted for a full year, maybe more.

        Regarding Rosenstein, Mueller, Weissman and 17 angry Democrat prosecutors, it isn’t justice that they all faded into the sunset…..they should have been disbarred.

        Had Weissman been disbarred back in Sidney Powell’s confrontation with him, he wouldn’t have lead the fake-Russia-hoax law team against POTUS.

        Barr let them go free to wreak havoc again in the future. They should have been disbarred.

        No Barr hasn’t defended Trump at all. He just let it play out it’s course. Thank god Trump was innocent or he would have ended up like Zimmerman.

        No. Barr’s no hero.

        Lawyers. Never. Prosecute. Lawyers.


        The only reason President Trump won’t be removed from office is because he didn’t do anything wrong — NOT because Barr defended him.

        Lawyers. Never. Prosecute. Lawyers.


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      • Ray Runge says:

        You speak of Barr being helpful as he permitted coup criminals to slither out the back door. Not he of the people you mention have been deterred in the persuit of lucre.

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        • Ray Runge says:

          Not “any” instead of he.


          • California Joe says:

            I understand your anger and frustration but AG Barr and Durham are going after some very powerful and very bad people who have excellent legal defense teams plus the news media to shill for them. This has to be done flawlessly and very thoroughly. No mistakes. No sloppiness. If Barr misspoke or released classified documents it would only hand ammunition to our enemies. Remember, Schiff and Nadler can easily impeach Barr and Durham….then where would we be?

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            • Raghn Crow says:

              I’ve “liked” both sides of the above debate because both are right. I mean, to the extent we know aught that is going on, they’re right. I.e., Barr knows how easy it is for the media and the Dems (but I repeat myself) to cry up “Obstruction!” if he releases the documents we want to see, and also he’s desperate (and I mean, DESPERATE) to not “crash” the entire perverted system — for the system is putrid, as in putrescent, a rotting carcass, the “Justice” system and the FBI are exactly that, and they need totally recast — well, the FBI needs deleted and then the laptop it was on (as it were) needs smashed to pieces.

              So Barr is trying “to remove the cancer without killing the patient”. From an insider’s perspective, based on all his life experiences, he fears how weak we’d be without FISA and the FBI and the CIA, but then, while I understand that (for the world we live in actually is hanging by a thread; chaos awaits us all, I’m afraid), while I can appreciate Barr’s perspective, I think back on the history of FISA, the FBI & CIA and have to conclude we’d be better off without them. But I can’t KNOW that. Basically, it is as John Adams said long ago and others here know full well, NO SYSTEM of government will work when too many of the men involved are evil. It’s that simple and it’s just a mess.

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      • Perot Conservative says:

        I agree w California (NorCal?) Joe.

        He publicly, immediately called out spying. And Educated us about the need for a “predicate”. Then doubled down on spying & concerns from Central America.

        This isn’t corporate America. There is public opinion, the corrupt MSM, opinion makers, etc. Going off half c-cked firing people could instantly backfire. He also has to inspire faith in the troops, in moderate members of the Deep Admin State.

        Have you slipped the feedback of attorney’s here? Ristvan & others. Declass everything, potentially blow all the cases by prejudicing the jury pool, etc.

        I have more faith in Durham, Barr & Nora than Oak Island.

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      • ipack says:

        I am spitballing here but please ‘bear with me’ a second. Full disclosure, this is new and may contradict my other statements:

        My guess is that AG Barr knows full well that if he and Durham go after people who falsified FISA documents and lied to FISC, they may end up charging some lawyers and possibly one or two agents. Their former bosses will be able to get off scot-free citing plausible deniability. I bet there is a process in place to insulate them from accountability: I didn’t know, I didn’t hear anything, maybe I heard something but I didn’t know what… and so on.

        If Durham gets to nail them on the intent and entrapment (Papadopoulus-Mifsud-Downer link) and how this dossier was created and subsequently laundered, this would create a much more compelling case in conjunction with the Criminal Enterprise to defraud the FISA court/judges.

        What do you think?

        P.S.: I still think that the only real recourse here is to do like GySgt Bob Lee Swagger.


    • redhotrugmama says:

      Well said MaineCoon!

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    • bessie2003 says:

      Amen MaineCoon, Amen!


      • X XYZ says:

        “Lawyers. Never. Prosecute. Lawyers. Never.”

        “Professional courtesy.”

        ”The first thing we do, let’s kill all the lawyers,”

        I can’t say they would be missed…

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        • A Moderate Man says:

          Please don’t say that about a profession and it’s people X XYZ, they are fathers, mothers, friends, Christians and so on and so on.


          • diogenes says:

            My brother is a lawyer. Omelettes and eggs. Hang them all.


          • X XYZ says:

            Mr. Moderate,

            What is it that you want me not to say?
            The first quote is the punch line to the joke: Why won’t sharks attack lawyers?

            The second is a quote from Shakespeare.
            Apparently Shakespeare isn’t covered in law school.

            The remainder of your remark elicits a guilt trip. Unfortunately it is not persuasive.

            “May your life be filled with lawyers”.

            Try not to take that quote personally. It’s an old Mexican curse.


    • Rip Tide says:

      And I pray alongside you Maine Coon!
      If we get another we have a cord of three which is not easily broken!


    • Doug Smith says:

      But your ranting is simply just another “Opinion” and the Problem with Opinions is …that everyone has one. The Struggle we now face in America…can not be fixed or even remedied with Opinions and Analysis. We have to rely on the “Facts” and Prosecute using “Facts”…lord knows there is a huge plethora of “facts” to chose from ! Someone just has to take the reigns and “proceed” with Justice and make sure its carried out to the fullest extent of the law. Otherwise…Corruption and chaos will continue.


    • Doug Smith says:

      But your ranting is simply just another “Opinion” and the Problem with Opinions is …that everyone has one. The Struggle we now face in America…can not be fixed or even remedied with Opinions and Analysis. We have to rely on the “Facts” and Prosecute using “Facts”…lord knows there is a huge plethora of “facts” to chose from ! Someone just has to take the reigns and “proceed” with Justice and make sure its carried out to the fullest extent of the law. Otherwise…Corruption and chaos will continue.


  2. coltlending says:

    At this point, I have zero faith serious repercussions will be forthcoming against any of the coup plotters.

    The only thing that will make me think differently is when the MSM starts to report on a tenth of what the CTH content creator/s have produced and some bad actors are found dead by virtue of a legitimate suicide.

    None of these bad actors are going to give up their government cheese.

    They’re all connected at the hip by that, Including Barr.


  3. California Joe says:

    ATTORNEY GENERAL WILLIAM BARR: Durham is looking at the whole waterfront. He is looking at the issue of how it got started. He’s looking at whether or not the narrative of Trump being involved in the Russia interference actually preceded July and was it, in fact, the precipitating trigger for the investigation. He’s also looking at the conduct of the investigation. There were some things done in the investigation that are not included in Horowitz’s report. He’s looking at those things. But also, a few weeks ago, I told him that he should spend just as much attention on the post-election period. I did that because of some of the stuff that Horowitz has uncovered, which, to me, inexplicable.

    WILLIAMS: Such as?

    ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR: Their case collapsed after the election and they never told the court. They kept on getting renewals on these applications. There were documents falsified in order to get these renewals. There were all kinds of withholding of information from the court. The question really is: “What was the agenda after the election?” They kept on pressing ahead after their case collapsed. This is the President of the United States.

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      Those are not the words of a coverup artist.

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      • California Joe says:

        Exactly! Barr could just lay low and say nothing. In this case he spoke clearly and invited the wrath of the entire Leftist media complex and didn’t blink an eye! Basically he declared war on them and this is a fight to the finish. I like the guy!

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      • Justin Green says:

        They’re not the words of a coverup artist – until the coverup happens.

        They may well be the words of someone building his credibility in order to give more “veritas” to letting everyone walk.

        See? Even Barr thought there were no criminal offenses committed.

        Comey was a hero, then a villain, then a hero, then a villain. Now a confirmed villain.

        Barr is definitely a few orders of magnitude smarter and eloquent than Comey, but I’ll wait for the actions.

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      • frankmystery says:

        It’s just words and the reason for them can just as easily be attributed to him performing one of two different roles.

        1. He’s genuinely sticking his neck out to fight injustice. He wants to counter narratives with his own pushback. Wait and see, we’ll get them all. He’s our guy.

        2. He’s a pressure release valve to keep conservatives perpetually in check. We’re being given another horizon to look toward. Without statements and interviews like these it’s dangerous for government. Can’t have people grabbing pitchforks. He’s not our guy.


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      • gvillewill says:

        The timing is brilliant as well, on the eve of the impeachment, ( if San Fran Nan can get to 218 which is looking more and more problematic)as it may steel the otherwise limp spines in the Senate.


      • jello333 says:

        “They kept on pressing ahead after their case collapsed. This is the President of the United States.”

        And so what?… “This is the President…” Well, maybe he’s signalling something REALLY big, like that these aren’t just normal crimes… but something closer to treason/sedition?


    • jbowen82 says:

      Someone knows who else got ensnared in the “2 hops” from Page. I bet one of the people surveilled sits in the Oval Office and WAS SITTING THERE WHEN UNDER SURVEILLANCE BY THE FBI, and we are being very, very careful about laying out just how far this goes. That’s what the “after the election” comment is about.


    • Ray Runge says:

      Bagpipes Barr has had well investigated cases for criminal referral from Deven Nunes’ congressional committee for well over a year. Criminal referrals from IG Horowitz’ investigations and absolutely no activity inside a court room.

      A fair analogy is the attempt to justify the zero activity of the guy you hired to clear the land of scrub trees. After another year and no trees have been removed the just maybe you hired the wrong tree cutter.

      Barr has produced absolutely zero deterrence to coup criminals. Zero prosecution after books of public material and volumes of classified criminal data have been collected. Time for change and a self admission that Barr is not here to prosecute bad guys.


      • California Joe says:

        Barr could not make a move to investigate anyone until he got rid of Rosenstein and Mueller! Once the Special Counsel Report was completed and the media furor died down they could start things but not until then.


      • Perot Conservative says:

        What would happen if he went after McCabe or Comey or both for relatively petty crimes, like leaking?

        Lots of noise; discovery?; resources and people pulled away from say Conspiracy & related charged … just my rookie logic. And if (when) you take some hits, a big PR loss. A real risk.

        But I do wonder why / if some smaller fish have been pinched. And why not or when. Like the gaggle of low-level FBI agents who went to the airport to arrest GP? Can we squeeze James Wolfe? (Leverage?) Is it possible some low level people copped plea deals on the DL?


    • BitterC says:

      If they are doing a serious post election investigation, it will have to do a deep dive into the appointment of Mueller. Especially since he says the case fell apart in January & Barr knows the contents of the Rosey authorization memos to Mueller & that the guy was gaga. I had assumed he wouldn’t touch the Mueller investigation as a professional courtesy to a life long swamp mate. Now, I’m not so sure

      This week was the first I heard that John Dowd came away from that contentious Feb 2018 mtg with Mueller saying he was mentally impaired. I fail to understand how/why he didn’t spill the beans back then, tho must admit it would have been an awkward thing to attack Mr War Hero

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    I have tremendous respect for Sundance’s opinion.
    In this case, I pray to God he’s off base.
    I have been furious all day long today digesting the ugly truth about how utterly corrupt the democrats. their media mouthpieces, and the deep state traitors truly are.

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    • In God’s own time we will know the answer. RINOS in the house diddled and the house was lost. Legislative Armageddon did not occur (my expectation). Impeachment did occur and from that some apparent standout patriots came forth. Conversely the Democrats not only have dug their grave but are eagerly pulling on the trip wire for an auto-fill. Their chances for inflicting lasting and irreparable damage on their own party seem to increase daily. In contrast PDJT’s popularity and successes continue to grow. Considering the forces arrayed against him, his success and their failures, the outcome has been biblical. T
      Barr may be a goat quietly at work to white wash, delay, and placate. Documents have not been declassified and questionable individuals have been praised (Rosey & Wray. My sincere hope that much of apparent praise is another version of “why bless your little heart”), . Some how after Sessions, I believe PDJT has items in place for that contention. Post impeachment and no progress from DOJ, he declassifies documents plus Rudy’s findings and let we the people speak.
      Barr and Durham may be working for the good. They have publicly voiced their concern over inadequacies in the IG report. Could one or both have found a reason to remain silent, “don’t want to telegraph grand jury progress” or some such thing. Barr may be a “very serious individual”. Having analyzed the problem, he has seen the massive corruption he has determined the only effective treatment is to excise every last bit of it. In the intervening time he is assembling the tools needed (Durham, a grand jury, and who knows what else) to accomplish the task. All the time swamp critters have become more visible (whistle blower 1,2,?). Once all is in place the operation begins, consider it a “bear claw debridement”. There is much left to do to remove decades of corruption and decay but considering the progress made in three years, let us see what occurs in another six months.


  5. rjones99 says:

    Strike 1: Worked for Bush.
    Strike 2: Overwhelmingly approved by the Senate.
    Strike 3: Time wasted as this sorry episode has played out. Not buying the “These things take time” defense.
    Strike 4: Epstein died on his watch.
    Strike 5: “Glad” he avoided Ukraine.

    Having said the above, my personal reaction to Barr is that he is a) brilliant, b) sincere in trying to right things, c) compassionate, d) subtle and very fact-oriented and highly disdainful of the gray areas in which much corruption festers, and e) realistic in his goals and priorities. I do not, perhaps incorrectly, see Barr as a self-promoter or a man having impaired integrity.

    Barr is in a pretty delicate situation and facing corruption in nearly every direction he looks. He certainly understands the senators approved him with the understanding/belief that he would not be targeting senators, which SD clearly identifies as a compromise of his principles and integrity. Barr’s comment on Ukraine was, to me, telling and very, very disappointing.

    I also think Barr has concluded the institutions must survive while many of us now believe the exact opposite. And he maintains support for the IC and that monstrous FISA database even in view of the huge damage done to our country AND, more significantly, the great likelihood that dems would abuse it again given that dems are obviously without moral restraint.

    However, in Barr’s defense, he cannot drain the ocean with a tea spoon. He is one man. He must focus on problems where he can be the most effective.

    Personally, I sympathize immensely with Barr’s dilemma, while simultaneously sharing SD’s immense disappointment that this current opportunity is not being used to fully deliver justice. We must, I think, accept that the real problem is the failure of our society to produce leaders of integrity. And fixing that problem is outside of DOJ scope.

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    • IGiveUp says:

      Excellent, reasoned comment. But I disagree with what I think our action ought to be in response to the situation as you describe it:

      “He certainly understands the senators approved him with the understanding/belief that he would not be targeting senators, which SD clearly identifies as a compromise of his principles and integrity.”

      It’s also a slap in the face to we the people. We don’t give politicians the right to decide that certain people are above the law. If Barr understood his mandate to mean Senators on the take go scott free, he should have refused or blown then up anyway. It’s our Senate, not theirs.

      “I also think Barr has concluded the institutions must survive while many of us now believe the exact opposite. And he maintains support for the IC and that monstrous FISA database even in view of the huge damage done to our country AND, more significantly, the great likelihood that dems would abuse it again given that dems are obviously without moral restraint.”

      Sounds a lot like wrong man for the job.

      “We must, I think, accept that the real problem is the failure of our society to produce leaders of integrity.”

      Agree. We the People are rotten too. Our pols are a reflection of ourselves. We get the gov’t we deserve. Let’s solve that problem by hanging the traitors tomorrow and promising to be better and more civic-minded Americans instead of having to show our continuing remorse by becoming passive victims while allowing the criminals in office to remain.


    • J.Thomas says:

      I think we should expect Barr to see out this Durham investigation and then to resign.

      I am not convinced that Barr will not, at some point, strike. He continues to speak about “Resistance” and to lay an intellectual groundwork by which to hold usurpers to account.

      There are rumors that Durham left Italy with the goods. I imagine that Mifsud was found, given protection, and revealed his handler.


    • Perot Conservative says:

      How about we add a card (victory) to the equation?

      If Senators are off limits … how about, along with the ‘small group’, 100-150 FBI leakers / bribe takers are fired, and face charges?

      That would send a message far & wide to stop the leak & bribe culture, and slow down the lazy MSM.


    • RightAroundTheBlock says:

      RJ99, “However, in Barr’s defense, he cannot drain the ocean with a tea spoon. He is one man….”

      I spit on the ground this statement was made.

      Barr is the head of a department, within the most powerful nation in the world, rightly or unrightfully named The Department of JUSTICE.

      No King of worth lead his people, no President a nation, no General his army, no Father a family, with an excuse in his f*^!%ing back pocket.

      No damn excuses. Buck up, or get the f*^!% out of the way.


  6. Mike says:

    I believe Barr did an excellent job in the interviews.

    By going on enemy-media he can’t be accused of being a FOX partisan, and more importantly he makes important points ignored by the MSM rats and makes them in a calm, credible, way, that demonstrates he knows the facts. I particularly liked the way he calmly kicked Comey in the balls, when he brought up how Comey wouldn’t cooperate to get his security clearance, so he could avoid answering questions about classified info.

    Barr knows the FIB and “justice” are full of “resistance” rats, out to undermine Trump and Barr. He also knows he can’t fire empty suits like Wray, Jessie Liu, and the corrupt SDNY shit show, without the demonrats and their media rats screaming obstruction.

    Barr has made very strong, accurate, statements demonstrating he knows this was coup. He won’t publicly call it a coup until AFTER he proves it. The only way to prove it, in a way that the left can’t ignore, or claim it’s political, is to have some of the rats confess.

    They need to flip one of the rats, to start the others flipping. The only way they will do that is with indictments. Until someone is indicted they have no fear, to induce flipping.

    I WOULD SURE AS HELL LIKE TO KNOW WHAT F HUBER HAS BEEN DOING FOR THREE YEARS. I doubt it, but if Huber was running a Title 3 wire tap operation on the coup conspirators this thing would be over.

    Durhem needs to start indicting SOON. Otherwise there is not enough time for him to finish a criminal conspiracy prosecution by next summer. If no one is indicted by March at the latest, that will tell me Durhem will just be issuing another report that will be spun by the media rats just like Horowitz.

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    • hawkins6 says:

      I agree that A/G Barr’s interview was excellent.

      His reply to the question about P Trump’s tweet criticizing Wray was right on. He knew that while Wray’s proposals to repair the FBI rather than burn it to the ground and start over seemed positive, Director Wray’s obstinate refusal to mention or even acknowledge how his predecessor Comey and other former FBI “upper echelon dirty cops” did lingering harm to the FBI’s reputation and to the Bureau itself was exactly what PT was tweeting about.

      Barr seems to know how P Trump thinks and seems to mostly agree with him. Whether Wray’s proposals will be effective or just a useless diversion and another cover up is yet to be determined and as long as he’s in denial it isn’t looking good.

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    • Linda K. says:

      Barr is talking to the msm as if they could actually reason and understand his points, which are spot on. He will make them want to do their job, which is to unearth the truth, not cover it up, if he keeps this up.

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    • Justin Green says:

      Barr has been smeared as a partisan since his statement on spying during his confirmation hearing. The left can and will call him partisan from now until he indicts nobody, in which case he could well be crowned a Knight of the Order of Saint McCain.

      All my posts tonight are playing Devil’s Advocate. I’d like to see some action.

      Zero indictments.
      Flynn is still facing illegal charges.
      Roger Stone was illegally investigated and his violations, if any, were fruit of the poisonous tree.

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  7. redhotrugmama says:

    I was skewered yesterday for writing my thoughts on Barr. I am a person that tends to form an opinion on a person based on my research, their actions and not their words along with some gut instincts. I was born and grew up in VA and went to college in VA as well. I lived most of my years split between the Tidewater area and Loudoun County (haha used to chat with Ollie North at the dry cleaners on occasion-some towns in Loudoun are very small such as the one I lived in) DC and the surrounding suburbs in VA and MD are a cesspool of gossip and made of many that seek money and power. You get jobs based on your “connections” around town. It’s not what you know…………..it’s who knows you so to speak. It is just how things work there. If one just observes and listens you learn a lot like I did over the years. People there love to gossip! Trust me on that!

    Given Barr’s history (of which there is quite a bit to be read out there) and keeping in mind he got his start in the CIA and served as AG under George HW Bush (that right there should tell you something). If you haven’t spent some time reading up on Barr I would encourage you to do so as his history rather interesting. I had the experience of being in Panama in 89 visiting some friends stationed there shortly before we invaded to go after Noriega (it was pretty crazy there back in those days). The friend I was there visiting was part of the ahhh “group” I was visiting there and I had the opportunity to meet my friends very close friends. Not long after returning the US invaded and sadly my friend’s teammates was two of four military person’s killed during that invasion. Guess who wrote a lengthy opinion on that prior to the invasion and that opinion played a large part in the decision to invade? Barr.

    Has anyone questioned/wondered about timelines????? We here on CTH love our timelines right? Does anyone find it interesting………….HW Bush died 11/30/18 and on 12/7/18 PDT announced his nomination of Barr as AG? We all know HW could not stand PDT.

    I believe (and really want to be wrong as I fully support our President) that PDT was told that Barr was the only person that Mitch could and would get confirmed as AG. Side bar (no pun intended) discussions took place before, during or after the funeral of HW Bush. It makes sense. Was this HW Bush’s last act from he grave to get back at PDT?

    Make no mistake Bill Barr is very smart and knows how to play the politics of D.C. He is well liked by both parties and that should tell us all something right there. I think Barr was put into place by Bush to 1) protect all of the “institutions” at all costs and 2) if he can hurt PDT in the process all the better.

    Why did Lindesy Graham meet with Barr not long ago? If the house impeaches Lindsey and Mitch will play a big part in controlling what happens in the Senate and the outcomes. Mitch has controlled PDT since the beginning. He has prevented numerous appointments, made sure Senate would never recess in order to prevent PDT appointments during recess and has given PDT pre-approval for his nominees.

    These speeches he is giving and the comments by Durham I am of the belief they are done only to placate us deplorables. If this goes to a trial in the Senate it will be way before the summer timeline that Barr mentioned today.

    I truly believe that Barr, Lindsey and Mitch are negotiating behind the scenes to dictate the future outcomes of this entire fiasco and the fate of the institutions and our country. I am amazed at what PDT has been able to accomplish given the horrible circumstances the past 3 years. Even if he isn’t impeached and lets say Durham delivers a big fat nothing burger (which I fully expect) we next need to overcome voter fraud and that has me concerned as well.

    Hopefully people don’t call me a troll or eyeore………..I am not. I am a deplorable too, but I am also a realist and live by the saying prepare for the worst while praying for the best.

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    • IGiveUp says:

      wow. What a depiction of raw power. It probably was ever thus. Probably nothing really new here, except to us since we live short lives.

      (And yeah there was something really creepy about that funeral)

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    • Justin Green says:

      You’re spot on.

      “Never let a crisis go to waste.” Right? Everything is a negotiation. Even the rule of law.
      They would not be deal-making politicians if they were NOT negotiating all manner of political favors behind the scenes for various outcomes from this sham.

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    • Padric says:

      I’m going to disagree with your opinion of Barr. I fall, somewhat, into the “He’s going to do the right thing”. Where I differ on that is that I think what Mr. Barr’s opinion of the “right thing” is likely slightly different from that of those who support him. On the whole, he’ll do what’s necessary to see justice done but if people are looking for someone that will burn the FBI and DOJ to the ground, that’s not going to happen.

      That said, I think Barr is going to get justice done and I say this for two very, very simple reasons. First, before he was ever named AG, before Sessions was even fired, Barr wrote a scathing opinion article on all the ways the Mueller probe was both wrong and flawed. As a private citizen and former AG, there would be no reason for him to express that highly unpopular opinion unless he felt strongly about it. Second, he started speaking about the spying on the Trump campaign of his own volition. Again, not something he had to do.

      The notion of speaking about it just to keep us happy just doesn’t meet the smell test to me. He could have far easier said “Yeah, I don’t think anything happened” or “I looked into it and there’s nothing to that” if asked and said nothing at all if he wasn’t asked, which given the attitude of the media is what likely would have occurred.

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  8. dustahll says:

    Roughly 6 months ago. President Trump said something to the effect. They do not want me to declassify everything that it will tear the country apart.
    DOJ CIA FBI NSA Corrupt politicians do not want to be torn apart.
    So, “They” are working to repair but not destroy institutions for right or wrong. Probably, wrong.

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    • k4jjj says:

      Revealing the truth will not tear the country apart. The country is ALREADY torn apart. Institutions completely corrupt SHOULD be destroyed. They are crooked beyond saving.

      Not declassifying just protects the worst criminals in the government. Unless they are imprisoned or hanged they will keep committing their felonies. They will keep committing their treason.


    • A Moderate Man says:

      What destroys institutions are lies and distrust of others, by not being absolutely truthful and forthcoming, they are making their beloved institutions even worse… think of Maine Coon’s post above.

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    • Perot Conservative says:

      Must be something to do with Obama.

      Not to mention the distinct possibility the BO WH / IC may have bugged the WH before they left.


  9. hawkins6 says:

    I have reasonable faith that A/G Barr is the dedicated, intelligent, knowledgeable, insightful and fair man that he portrayed in this interview. I have no reason or evidence to doubt his sincerity and his commitment to his country and to a better (never perfect) system of fair and equal justice at the DOJ but sundance’s opinion is concerning given SD’s track record of predictive accuracy.

    I think the wisest option for Trump supporters is to express their support and trust in him (if they believe it) until evidence is forthcoming to reject that view of him. Bill Barr’s being subjected to the vindictive wrath of the corrupt MSM and the irresponsible wacky Dems for supporting P Trump and for doing his job “for the people and the nation,” so if Trump supporters join the legions of Barr critics and begin denouncing and questioning his motives and character before the outcome is determined, it will likely be very demoralizing for Barr. If he’s as good and fair a man as I think he is it would be unwise and unjust.

    Barr is certainly a far better person to be A/G at this moment in time than when Sessions and Rosenstein were in the job and the Deep State still led the DOJ show. (Acting A/G Whitaker seemed like a good and fair man but he was only temporary and did not have Barr’s past credentials and connections)

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    • Mike says:

      Hawk, I would add that we still have a double standard with regard to justice, and the news media slime.

      Eric Holder said,” I have the president’s back.” And “I’m the president’s wingman.” No one ever even criticized Holder, much less demanded his recusal.

      No f-ing way Barr gets away with statements like that. I will support Barr and Durhem until there is a reason not to.

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  10. I’ll reconsider my LOW opinion of Bill Barr when he actually prosecutes members of the “Small Group”

    Until then, I think he’s just Jeff Sessions 2.0

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  11. I’m going to go with my gut instinct here and say that Barr/Bull are going for the “Conspiracy to Commit Treason” route. Or whatever you want to call the crime that involves a last cigarette and blindfold ending. Because we either shoot a few now or wind up having hundreds of thousands shot later. And for the knucklehead that has Barr in his handle, save your breath because the more you try to convince others, it’s real obvious that you’re just trying to convince yourself.

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  12. Idea says:

    I think the wisest thing would be is to shutter all 17 intelligence agencies or place them into a US citizen conservatorship kind of like Fannie/Freddie in 08. We would leave only a select few in who know the systems to keep/trash and only then we would have that citizen panel that comprises 50 folks who take a ballot vote in each state of which spying we will allow, and what manner you can scoop up people under warrants.

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  13. lizajmoon says:

    sundance made a clear case that O’Mara had a bigger goal than clearing his client’s name: a big media job. where the analogy fails for me is what is Barr’s bigger goal? it is my hope that Barr has everything he really wants in life and therefore can work on a legacy as being one of the ones that was bigger than the swamp.

    Liked by 2 people

    • Andy Krause says:

      Just a small point. If I have read the post correctly, SD does not make a judgement on Barr at this point. That was the meaning behind the “trial beginning” now.

      Liked by 1 person

  14. OmegaManBlue says:

    Will we have a Judge Nelson too?


  15. This post has had some ofhe most diverse pro/con commentary I’ve seen in TCTH in years. Many compelling arguments for and against with little to no smashing of commentators’ private body parts. Excellent job by all. However, my Barr jury is still deliberating. Enough for tonight. MAGA!

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    • jello333 says:

      Absolutely. And among Sundance’s many talents and personal traits, this is one of his most impressive. He’s not the least bit afraid to teach us all, to help us learn facts and how to interpret those facts… and then allow us, even encourage us, to debate or disagree with him. I’ve encountered VERY few “teachers” in my life who have that trait.


  16. Kent says:

    …about 1500 seeking to subvert our republic need to be disappeared…..


  17. thebigolddog says:

    Some trials can’t be avoided. They have to be conducted in order to show the truth and disarm the opposition. Sometimes, avoiding a decisive and final public battle just delays it making it worse and more destructive when it finally comes. Sometimes there are no shortcuts to final victory. See a bridge too far.

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    • distracted2 says:

      I agree with this. It will clear the air. And clear the criminals out of congress, both D’s and R’s.

      If the truth doesn’t come out, we will lose what may be the last chance we have to clean house and take our country back.


  18. An says:

    So… Barr is going to win the impeachment case and get a gig at CNN?


  19. MostlyRight says:

    I don’t see Barr as some lawyer looking for fame and a CNN contract. As he said in his interview, the AG should either be too young to recognize the danger or too old to care. He was aging he’s too old to care about that stuff the young worry about, with their careers ahead of them.

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  20. California Joe says:

    Barr could not make a move to investigate anyone until he got rid of Rosenstein and Mueller! Once the Special Counsel Report was completed and the media furor died down they could start things but not until then.

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  21. California Joe says:

    Barr could not make a move to investigate anyone until he got rid of Rosenstein and Mueller! Once the Special Counsel Report was completed and the media furor died down they could start things but not until then. Remember, the Democrats and the news media are gunning for Barr and demanding that he be removed!


  22. distracted2 says:

    Besides someone’s words, I pay a lot of attention to body language. And Barr’s body language exudes anger. He is furious with the intelligence agencies’ leadership. Furious.

    Will anything come of it? Who knows for sure. But my gut tells me that he’s directing that anger somewhere – and it’s not toward the President of the United States.

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  23. Liberty ONE says:

    Using Sundances analogy of Barr being O’Mara and Zimmerman being the Constitution ( We the people)…..we’re SCREWED! BUT, who do WE sue to get our Republic back?????


  24. A2 says:

    Great interview. He may go down as a heroic AG. SUPPORTING THE RULE OF law and the Constitution.

    We are so lucky to have him as the AG in their dystopian times.


  25. gvillewill says:

    I think that this interview is a “Shot across the bow” of the Senate and brilliantly timed.
    Barr told the American people just exactly what has happened here in four or five sound bites.
    As Billy S said, brevity is the soul of wit and Barr distilled the Horowitz report down to chicken nuggets size.

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  26. Ned Zeppelin says:

    The only thing that matters are indictments. I do think there may be difficulties here. You need proof of crimes, not poorly motivated conduct which on its face is legal. Durham has crimes, so the key is finding the RICO connections to those who orchestrated the coup.


  27. teeheeman says:

    I thought the Barr NBC interview was both stunning and revealing. I think this guy is the real deal and is tackling this historic scandal at the perfect moment of his career. I totally respect SD’s take but I disagree with him on Barr – of course Barr is saying some silly “get along” things (e.g. Wray) but this guy is politically savvy. I think we have to give Barr and Durham the benefit of the doubt……


  28. David Mitchell says:

    Expand the frag pattern, shine a spotlight on this swamp dweller too…


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  29. Richard says:

    I am still in wait and see mode about whether Barr will actually do anything about the coup plotters. However, I have a long memory and his connection with Ruby Ridge means that he has an uphill climb to get my respect. If he does something serious here, I guess I will overlook the past but people need to go to prison to meet my definition of serious.

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    • jello333 says:

      I’ve heard mention of Barr being involved with the Ruby Ridge investigation a few times now. I don’t really know what that’s referring to, and I actually don’t WANT to know right at this moment (I’ll dig into it later). Because right now I want to root for Barr to do the right thing (though I’m aware part of that is “hope”), and so I don’t need conflicting feelings about his past affecting me.

      I say this because I feel VERY strongly about what happened at Ruby Ridge, with Weaver and his family. Same goes for Waco. And remember, back then I was not just a Democrat, but a full-on Lib. And yet I DESPISED what was done by our (at that time) Democrat government. (Yeah, at least back then there really WERE a few decent Libs who could think for themselves.)


  30. RightAroundTheBlock says:



  31. EvenT says:

    I don’t think Barr is going to sweep this under a rug and make it go away. It’s too huge and he knows it and he wouldn’t be out there saying stuff like this:

    “Well I think that probably from a civil liberties standpoint the greatest danger to our free system is that the incumbent government (Obama) used the apparatus of the state, principally the law enforcement agencies and the intelligence agencies, both to spy on political opponents, but also use them in a way that can affect the outcome of the election. As far as I’m aware, this is the first time in history that this has been done to a Presidential campaign, the use of these counter-intelligence techniques against a Presidential campaign”

    Attorney General of The United States
    William Barr
    10 Dec 2019


  32. jello333 says:

    In all my time here, I’ve only disagreed with Sundance a tiny handful of times, probably no more than once or twice a year on average. So… I was about due. 😉

    Of course he’s exactly right about O’Mara, and that Mark failed to do everything he could to help George. Oh sure, in the end we “won”, but it didn’t take a great lawyer or team to do that… the prosecution/persecution case was SO weak that it was over after the prosecution rested, even BEFORE the defense got its turn. But I think what frustrated us all was that the defense did only just as much as they needed to, and seemed happy to just get a not-guilty verdict and nothing more.

    They BLEW a chance to not only get George acquitted, but at the same time to CONVICT the prosecution and Scheme Team. This of course would include proving the Rachel / Multiple DeeDee’s hoax. By not doing so, the defense (I blame O’Mara, NOT West) allowed the media and other haters to continue attacking George even after the verdict. O’Mara had a chance to make George’s life post-trial MUCH easier… he failed miserably to do that. Yeah, they kept George physically out of prison, but little more.

    So anyway, for Barr to eventually be seen as an O’Mara, that would mean that Barr is gonna get Trump “acquitted”, but still leave all the stigma hanging over his head afterwards. Had Barr stopped after he shut down the Mueller “probe”, and just been satisfied with that, it would have been very similar to what O’Mara did. That being, Zimmerman/Trump would now be out of legal jeopardy, but their “good names” would still not be restored, and many “lingering doubts” would remain.

    But I think the fact that Barr HAS gone further — with his appointment of Durham, his continuing to dig into the origins of the coup attempt (even trips to Europe), including his recent comments and disagreement with Horowitz — well, I think that’s a huge, important sign that Bill Barr is NOT gonna be a Mark O’Mara by the time this is all over.


  33. Bobby Alley says:

    Perhaps most of the material Barr is declassifying was not intended for Horowitz? Frankly If all these people skate it is because Trump is going to allow it to happen meaning either he was duped and played worse than any POTUS ever or there is a bigger plan.


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