Varying Expectations For IG Horowitz Report – The Convenient Application of “intent”……

If Senator Lindsey Graham is correct – tomorrow the DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz will release a much anticipated review, looking into how the FBI and DOJ used an application to the FISA court to investigate the Trump campaign. There are wide-ranging opinions about what exactly this report may, or may not, outline.

The IG review has been ongoing for 21 months.  This report is anticipated to be a culmination of that investigative effort.  The ‘tick-tock club’ of Sean Hannity, Sara Carter, John Solomon and various Fox pundits have promised the report will be the most devastating outline of gross FBI and DOJ misconduct in the history of IG review.

Additionally, a network of financially dependent social media voices, book writers, podcast pundits and Q-theorists collectively known as the ‘trusty plan group’, have predicted criminal indictments, wide-scale arrests and a shock to the DC system that will fracture the foundation of the administrative state and simultaneously drain the swamp.

Meanwhile the Lawfare group has been the most visible advocacy network for the current and former DOJ and FBI officials who participated in setting up and using the FISA surveillance system now under IG review.   The Lawfare group has stated the IG report will exonerate all of their pre and post election activity; validate the justification for their predicate efforts; and leave the ‘tick-tockers’ and ‘trusty planners’ having to reconcile to their stunned audiences how they interpreted all the data so incredibly wrong.

A review of the last three IG reports which brush up against the same DOJ and FBI network: (1) IG review Clinton email/FBI conduct; (2) IG review of McCabe/media leaks; and (3) IG review of James Comey conduct; shows the IG report on FISA is likely to come down somewhere in the middle.  ie. mistakes were made; poor judgements were evident; some unprofessional conduct was found; some lack of candor was identified; department policies were not followed; but no direct evidence of intentional wrongdoing was attributable to a coordinated political effort.

If prior IG reports are predictive we should see something akin to:

…Everyone collectively just happened to make identical mistakes, at the same time, in the same direction, together with all the administrative staff within all intelligence organizations… many of them were professionally trained lawyers… but no-one did anything wrong on purpose….

Remember the modern mantra for DOJ definitions of legality are all about “intent“.

Defining statutory violations by the intent of the violator is specifically attributable to how President Obama, AG Eric Holder and AG Loretta Lynch changed the entire enterprise of lawful application to make outcomes arbitrary, variable, changeable to the situation.

The IRS targeting wasn’t unlawful because it wasn’t intentional.  The death of four Americans due to sketchy CIA and State Dept. operations in Benghazi was not unlawful because the risky situation wasn’t created intentionally.  Hillary Clinton’s private email server with classified information wasn’t “intentional”, etcetera – etcetera, the list is long.

The nice thing about switching to definitions of lawbreaking by “intent” is the ease in arbitrary application.  Republican targets ‘intended’ to violate laws… Democrat targets, well, not-so-much.  Fluidity is a necessary oil amid a two-tiered administrative state.

If you elevate, I mean really elevate, and look at the bigger issue inside each of the examples there’s a connective thread surrounding a purposeful shift in accountability for broken laws by focusing on “criminal intent.”

“Intent”, not consequence, is now the larger shield being applied toward excusing the action of people within institutions of government and society.  Consider:

Ah yes, Hillary Clinton was not guilty or accountable because FBI Director James Comey said they couldn’t prove intent….. But the statute doesn’t require intent… But the DOJ said ignore the statute, they require it… and so it goes.

Also see years of Inspector General internal investigations culminating in the very familiar phrase: “declined to prosecute”; yup, they all surrounded intent.

Apparently anyone who breaks the law (lies) while inside the DOJ or FBI didn’t intend to… While lawbreakers (fibbers) outside the FBI/DOJ offices are intentful sons-of-bitches.

The “intent” issue extends everywhere….

Illegal alien entry, and accountability for fraud, all downplayed because there’s no proof of intent.   Walk down a pier in San Francisco and shoot a girl in the head… your honor, my client didn’t intend to do it.  The focus on intent -a specific decision made within the administration of a modern justice system- has become a shield against consequence.

It was a “mistake”…. he/she/it made “a poor decision” etc.  A pattern of obfuscation downplaying consequence and allowing those decision-makers charged with delivering accountability to withdraw or apply the rules of law based on their individual overlay of ‘intent’.

That shift is factually visible everywhere now.

The prior IG report by Horowitz [FBI bias & investigative outcome] was fraught with the application of ‘intent’ inside the inspectors explanation of absent evidence toward bias.

Each of these examples does not seem to be arbitrary, but rather connected to a more consequential decision by those in power to water-down accountability and open the doors for further abuse.

If the official didn’t ‘intend’ to do wrong, or more specifically if the people in position of delivering accountability for the wrong-doing cannot find specific intent, then the action is less-than regardless of outcome.

Consider what FBI officials were doing inside the FBI regarding media-leaks, then insert the James Wolfe example here & ask yourself how could they ever hold him accountable?

Pro Tip: They didn’t.

Following along the ideological lines we can all see how a shift to ‘intent’ can become a very serious issue within a corrupt system.

Within that system, and against that purposeful filter and determination, plausible deniability becomes the construct for intentional criminal engagement.

The illegal alien voter didn’t intend to violate the law… therefore no law was violated.  The Democrats who ballot-harvested illegal alien registration didn’t intend to violate the voting integrity statute… therefore no statute was violated.  Everyone just, well, made a mistake.

Whoopsie daisy.

A corrupt official doesn’t even need to put a finger on the scales of justice, once the scales are intentionally mis-calibrated like this.

If you wonder why there is such an overall sense of anxiety, poor conduct, lack of virtue and general unease within the recent landscape…. I would deposit the likelihood all of the unnerving instability around us is being caused by this shift away from consequence based entirely on ‘intent‘.

Brazen unlawfulness and abuses are now subject to arbitrary determinations of intent.

According to the current DOJ legal proceedings Michael Flynn the outsider intended to lie… FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, the insider, didn’t:

It’s this weird mish-mosh world where changing your party registration before you defraud your investors rob the bank might just help you out if you get caught.

From all current indications FBI Director Christopher Wray is directing his organization to spend more time filling the cracks in the dam (bias training) -trying to hold back the tide of electoral anger- than they are doing actual FBI work.  Which begs the question….

….did Bill Barr purchase scuba gear?

 

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756 Responses to Varying Expectations For IG Horowitz Report – The Convenient Application of “intent”……

  1. Tseg says:

    Based on the new impeachment report it seems the government has somehow evolved into decreeing Thought Crimes. It doesn’t matter what you do, only what we think you were thinking. What a joke. I suspect we will see similar application within the Horowitz Report, unfortunately.

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    • Worse, still, is the trend towards arresting people for crimes that have not even been committed, yet. That’s what “Red Flag” laws do.

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      • old white guy says:

        America is screwed. Even President Trump has signed on to many of these totalitarian laws and rules.

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        • Yup. Just yesterday Drudge ran an item about the first person in FL to be convicted for refusing to turn in firearms that were demanded after he was arrested (not convicted, mind you) on an attempted murder charge.

          If he’s a threat to the public, why allow him out on bail in the first place?

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    • Don L says:

      Actually the opposite, no? They’ll deny any Deep State bad motives in the IG report and create evil Trump motives in the impeachment report.

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      • paulashley says:

        True. The “intent” application, and all applications of thought crime, go in one durection only, i.e. against those with intents and thoughts out of favor with those in power.

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      • JoeB says:

        Funny, I was just watching FOX and Friends and they said that starting Tomorrow, the House impeachment proceedings will NO Longer focus on whether or not President Trump committed a crime, but whether or not his INTENT was to commit a crime.

        Does Anyone think that Sundance’s Article just happens to claim that the IG’s “report” will focus on THE SAME THING as the new focus by the House???

        Something is going on here. I’m beginning to think that we will ALL be talking about “intent” for at least the next month or so.

        This is NOT just happenstance! It is Clearly Coordinated to claim that Trump’s FORCED Defense (Intent is hard to prove AND Not a crime) will be the same argument used to “exonerate” Deep Staters!

        The timing of the “NEW” House strategy PERFECTLY Aligns with the “release” of the IG report.

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    • Phil Bacon says:

      The Lawfare media strategy will be “conflation and confusion”, attempting to push a narrative through the MSM, a reverse of the impeachment “evidence”, that all of these random facts amount to nothing.

      Is the GOP/Trump campaign awake and ready to release loud and frequent broadsides?

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      • bertdilbert says:

        A Joe Biden pushup contest has more public interest than the impeachment hearings.

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      • cjzak says:

        Some really good legal minds need to squash this Lawfare group now. They are running this show it seems and need to get their comeuppance asap. If this is allowed to continue and they get their way, the Constitution will be effectively rewritten.

        Where are the lawyers who stand for our Republic and Constitution as written? When are they going to challenge this coup leading law group?

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    • iconoclast says:

      It’s like a hate crime: the government gets to decide what was in the mind of the perpetrator. The exact same act in two different cases can result in completely different penalties, depending on whether or not some prosecutor gets inside someone’s head and decides if one crime involved hate.

      It’s despicable and corrupt.

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      • alonzo1956 says:

        The best direct comparison I can think of is how Hillary was treated vs. the treatment given to General Flynn. We have had our faces rubbed in it while actual criminals are laughing at us. The criminals are still on speaking tours getting rich from their most recent book deals or speaking fees. That doesn’t consider those who now work for think tanks in the swamp.

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        • Boknows says:

          Exactly Alonzo,

          General Intent is presumed based on committing the unlawful act.

          Period

          How the scum have redefined the concept to justify their crimes is appalling.

          If they get away with their crimes committed this decade without prosecution, the great experiment called America dies with it.

          America is an ideal. President Trump is the ray of light fighting for this ideal against much darkness.

          No prosecutions means the ideal is no more and will be fully applied against us if and when the Godless ilk take power in both branches again.

          President Trump’s gives us hope that the ideal is still alive.

          Prosecutions ensure the ideal can continue and is stronger than the darkness.

          Lord, hear our prayer.

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      • Joemama says:

        They have already gotten the foot in the door. Prosecution of “hate crimes” presumes that the legal system can discern the intent of the perpetrator, so that additional punishment can be applied. Next came the red flag laws, which assume that someone can telepathically discern that someone intends to commit a crime at some time in the future. Red flag laws throw the constitution out the window. It throws out the 1st, 2nd and 4th amendments.

        Now the mockingbird C_A media is telling the public that PDJT can be impeached for improper thoughts, absent any crime.

        All 3 of these precedents need to be thrown out by the Supreme Court to reinstate the rule of law under the constitution.

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    • ms doodlebug says:

      ‘I’ think a lot of us ‘think’ the act itself proves intent. Hillary ‘intended’ to secretly install a server; ‘intended’ to and did use it for secret communications including classified information. Otherwise, there would have been no email abuse of her position. Bill Clinton ‘intended’ to meet with Loretta Lynch on the tarmac. She ‘intended’ to meet with him. Otherwise, there would have been no meeting. Christopher Steele, Glenn Simpson, Bruce and Nellie Ohr ‘intended’ to compile a false dossier. Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Andrew McCabe, James Comey ‘intended’ to use the false dossier to get FISA warrants and Robert Mueller’s sham investigation. The ‘intent’ is proven by the acts on down and across the lines from Brennan, Clapper, to Congress where democrats participated and ‘intend’ to use these actions to overturn PDJT, the duly elected President of the United States.

      ‘I’ also ‘think’ we misunderstand the purpose of Inspector General Horowitz. His job is to identify what the FBI has done wrong and make suggestions on what needs to be done to correct the situation. While he may make ‘recommendations’, it is up to the FBI to investigate his findings and make the corrections up to and including prosecutions by the DOJ when appropriate. ‘I’ think the waiting is not over. We’re going to see ‘intentional’ acts that do not get prosecuted, in some cases because of plea deals. In others, because while they and we know what we know, the evidence required by the Courts is insufficient. All of this to say ‘I’ think we’re going to be ‘really’ ticked off very soon.

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    • Bubby says:

      Exactly! Isn’t the latest impeachable offense of President Trump is that he “thinks” he’s King and his son Barron is a Baron?

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  2. In Washington, the elite (Hillary) was given a pass for obvious violations of the law, based on the non-existent requirement of the element of intent.

    But, on Main Street WE are constantly reminded that “Ignorance of the Law is no excuse”

    The irony of it all was that one of Hillary’s campaign promises was to “Eliminate the TWO-TIERED Justice System” in America.

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  3. 2Alpha says:

    Still sitting here with neatly wrapped torches… sharpening the pitchfork… waiting…

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  4. TwoLaine says:

    John Solomon on what to expect from the IG Report.

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    • Julia Adams says:

      Watched this video twice, and by the way, thanks for sharing. Solomon is now a political target of the left. They intend to destroy him, his career, his employment and do so by far worse means than what they did to James Rosen.

      When watching I payed close attention to John’s intonation, content his remarks and his body language. He looks and sounds confident, calm, rightfully angered by Schiff’s intent to harm him, solidly self-assured, fact based, stayed on topic, and he did not retract his previous reporting. Noticed the quickness by which he responded to questions I think tell a more important story. He is not lying, he is not fabricating, he is not manipulating and he is not creating a narrative. He is consistent. He reports on facts he has uncovered.

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      • beach lover says:

        Solomon has good sources inside the DOJ or FBI.. has to. So when he talks, I pay attention. Like a select few others, they have been singled out for harassment by the Dems. That should tell us something.

        Of course, we may not get all the high profile targets we want… Comey and probably McCabe.. for indictments, because they can always say it was evidence brought to them that they acted upon… but certainly Clinesmith and I would hope Strzok and maybe Page and a few others in the small group get hauled to the grand jury.

        I’ve always worried after reading the last reports from Horowitz, that he starts with how to protect the system first.. then looks for ways to do it.. how to put lipstick on that pig. If Barr accepts this nonsense, Trump should really do something major. He has every right to know what evidence Durham has now. It could be part of his defense in the impeachment debacle. It is after all connected… all of this!

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      • TwoLaine says:

        YW, I fully agree.

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      • alonzo1956 says:

        Julia
        John Solomon has been put on an island in the middle of nowhere BECAUSE he is a REAL journalist. Sarah Carter jumped on the Tick Tock train or she would likely be in the same boat. From what I have observed, John Solomon is the ONLY true journalist that is in the public eye and you are spot on in that THEY are trying to get him out of sight. When this is all said and done, John needs to be given the highest civilian awards (all of them) available to a private citizen along with the Solomon award which he will have created by his unending credible reporting. I actually hate to see him being put through this charade.

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      • Zippy says:

        “He is not lying, he is not fabricating, he is not manipulating and he is not creating a narrative. He is consistent. He reports on facts he has uncovered.”

        In other words he’s what a “journalist” should be according to THE primary mission of a free press – government watchdogs. Too bad his type is so incredibly rare these days.

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    • trumpsbamagirl says:

      Why aren’t any of these people using burner phones?

      Haven’t they learned anything about our surveillance state?

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      • Justin Green says:

        Probably because they’re not doing anything wrong. These call records were subpoenaed to fish for something they can use to insinuate a crime without ever naming or proving one.

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      • TwoLaine says:

        Burner phones can also be traced.

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      • Joemama says:

        Burner phones don’t make a difference. EVERYTHING is recorded, archived and cross-referenced in a database.

        The only secure communications are physically passing notes and verbal face-to-face communications in the “cone of silence”. Carrier pigeons would probably be fairly secure too. The old standby of two tin cans with a piece of taut string between them might work as well, if nobody was in earshot.

        There is NO PRIVACY in modern communications. Even the messages between gamers and HAM radio transmissions are intercepted and recorded. Both of these were used by the coup plotters in an attempt to communicate securely. They failed in both attempts.

        Yes, the beautiful Nellie Ohr did not succeed in not being intercepted with her HAM radio communications.

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    • Zippy says:

      Print version:

      The 10 most important revelations to expect from the Russia probe FISA report
      DECEMBER 4, 2019

      https://johnsolomonreports.com/the-10-most-important-revelations-to-expect-from-the-russia-probe-fisa-report/

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  5. paulapatriot says:

    I’ve never expected much from this report b/c it is an internal review. Horowitz can’t hand out indictments.

    I don’t believe Wray is covering up for the FBI . I don’t believe anyone did anything wrong there. It was the State Department, Brennan and Clapper who did. And they will be indicted.

    As far as AG Barr goes, I have100% confidence in him to do the right thing. I believe he WILL get to the bottom of everything and punish the wrongdoers. Why? B/c the President has confidence in him. The President has basically recused himself from this case. He gave Barr the ability to declassify anything and everything. If the President handed over his authority to someone else, he must really trust him!

    Not everyone we thought was guilty are guilty. Not everyone, who was guilty will be found guilty. We don’t have a perfect justice system ( think OJ), but most everyone involved will be held to account. Have patience. Have faith. Trust the President. Remember he said, “I caught them all.”

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    • dilonsfo says:

      If the jury trials of these people were held in Texas (except Austin), Oklahoma, Kansas they would all be found guilty. It the trials are held in DC, Northern Virginia, New Jersey, New York, or California they will all walk and be called heroes.

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    • snellvillebob says:

      The FBI were accessories to Brennan’s, Clapper’s, and Comey’s crimes. They knowingly committed purgery to the FISA court, criminally protected themselves, the DOJ, Hillary Clinton, and other equally corrupt politicians. They are still driving their getaway cars and thus are just as guilty.
      The DoJ is also just as guilty as the FBI

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    • Lawton says:

      Comey and them were willfully in on it also and defrauded the Courts.

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    • bertdilbert says:

      “I don’t believe Wray is covering up for the FBI . I don’t believe anyone did anything wrong there.”

      Peter Strzok, Is that you?

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    • Zippy says:

      “Not everyone we thought was guilty are guilty.”

      From what I’ve read here and read/heard from Dan Bongino they damned sure are.

      “Not everyone, who was guilty will be found guilty.”

      The understatement of the century.

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      • mike says:

        Not 1% who are major guilty have been found, much less guilty.

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      • paulapatriot says:

        That’s the problem. Much is speculated here and w/ Dan. There’s just too much we don’t know.

        If you are a waiter you don’t know if the chef spit in the soup, and yet your hand delivered the soup.

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    • Tl Howard says:

      “I don’t believe anyone did anything wrong there.”

      Nah, the “Greatest, most powerful, most resource-ful domestic law enforcement org in the world believed the Steele dossier.”

      PUKE! Give us a damn break. A kid of 16 w/ an IQ of 95 could figure out the idiocy of that statement.

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  6. Paprika says:

    If one zooms upward to the 30,000′ level to take an overall view of the situation, it becomes even more convoluted and scary. This reliance on an arbitrary interpretation of intent/motivation is rife throughout the legal system, not just the FBI, IC, of DoJ.

    Think about all the judicial stays against PT’s lawful executive orders. They focused on his intent, not the law. He’s racist or anti-Muslim that’s why he wants to block refugees from those 7 Muslim countries. How did Chief Justice Roberts rule on putting the citizen question back on the census? “It is totally legal and within his authority, but we need to know what the reason/intent of his cabinet member was for doing so.” Same convoluted use of intent was used to OK Obama Care–the intent was a tax not a fee or versa-visa.

    The Law means nothing as it can be supported, aborted, ignored, applied on the whims of whoever is “interpreting” the mindset/thoughts of the person before the docket. Emotion is above fact. “A higher authority” over rules the LAW.

    Sundance, as always, lays bare the odious nature and structure underneath this “new and improved” interpretation of the LAW. Arbitrary and fluid rules for prosecution or non-prosecution based on Thought Crimes, not the crime itself.

    If only we can make Orwell fiction again!

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    • icthematrix says:

      Indeed excellent observations by Sundance and, concurrently, by Paprika on the extension of this extremist practice to other areas of law/governance. Intent is a tool of the devil, and those who wish to manipulate outcomes for their own purposes.

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    • cjzak says:

      Somebody needs to challenge this legal “intent”. It’s just like the legal term “no standing”. Both can be made to be whatever some lawyer/court wants it to be it seems. Maybe the SC needs to take this issue somehow. Incredibly unfair to accuse and convict someone based on someone else’s interpretation of “intent”.

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      • mac says:

        It isn’t really possible to concretely judge someone’s “intent.” Anyone who has worked very long with people knows that they sometimes do inexplicable things for reasons unknown. The question, “What were you thinking?” about a given act often doesn’t have an answer the perpetrator of the act is willing to admit. Even if the perpetrator states his/her reasoning, the claimed reasoning might very well be a lie. Long story short, forget judging by intent. Just lose that line of thought. It is completely counterproductive. Judge on actions alone. If a criminal act is proven to have been committed, the legal system should punish the criminal actor according to the applicable law. All dealing with nebulous “intent” explanations/justifications does is make an already very subjective legal system even more subjective.

        The legal system in this country has never been held in lower repute than it is now. Most people of my acquaintance believe the Federal law enforcement agencies are corrupt and politically biased. They have no trust in the FBI, CIA, IRS or BATFE. If that situation is to have any hope of improvement, the Federal agencies are going to have to start being as clean as Caesar’s wife. That means they not only have to BE honest and aboveboard, they have to LOOK honest and aboveboard as well even to their closest and most hostile scrutinizers.

        I wish I thought there was any chance the Federal law enforcement agencies actually would clean house and restore integrity in those organizations. It is possible, but I think the odds are quite low.

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    • mike says:

      One of the problems we do have with “facts based law” right now, is that we do have too many “laws” – by now, at least, four felonies a day. So “intent” allows the elite to skate totally and Joe Average to stay breathing air outside of prison.

      “Good (liberal) citizens” have little to fear. Usually, unless they cross the elite, connected or agencies.

      Only if some government doesn’t like you does Joe Average have to worry. So stay silent or only Antifa/BLM violent…

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  7. Seneca the Elder says:

    Sidney Powell said don’t pay attention to the “conclusions “ but look at the facts that will be revealed. I’m so glad that she checks in and comments on Sundance’s work. It doesn’t get any better.

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    • bessie2003 says:

      That’s a great reminder from Sidney Power and really good advice;

      as it might well be better to read the entire report first, then read the Executive Summary afterward.

      I remember having a similar reaction after reading the first IG report we all waited with baited breath upon. Reading the Summary first, then the text found that the Summary didn’t match up to the details in the full text.

      A consciously created disconnect if ever there was one.

      I remember yelling at the television when Comey gave his announcement of all the crimes that Hillary Clinton did and then concluding that no reasonable prosecutor would ever bring charges, remember his implying intent has nothing to do with culpability and have been on a rant against the inclusion of that special get-out-of-jail-free precedent since then.

      Even now, listening to these Democrat Lawfare ‘staffers’ on the impeachment inquisition frame their questions with accusations of intent where anything this President does furthers this purposeful fundamental change the previous Admin. put into motion.

      If the Executive Summary fits up with the actual text of the report then maybe some positive headway will have been made. That, and indictments.

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      • beach lover says:

        This disconnect could be what has Barr upset. Anyone know if once Barr has the report if he can also make his findings or recommendations??

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        • CorwinAmber says:

          The “commander” (in this case, AG Barr who is the “directing authority”) owns the report and can follow its lead or ignore its findings at his own peril…simple as that. The conclusions and recommendations are those of the IGs who prepared the report and are in no way binding on the commander. BUT, as I have said many times previously, the commander should not be surprised by the contents of the report since he should have been kept apprised on a regular basis of the progress of the inspection or investigation…especially if the result is likely to be controversial. Been there, done that, but hey, what do I know? Merry Christmas everyone!

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        • ms doodlebug says:

          He can follow up with Durham’s findings and the release of relevant classified documents.

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      • Tl Howard says:

        Perhaps the IG should NEVER be allowed to make conclusions, just to “give the facts.”

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    • Zippy says:

      “Sidney Powell said don’t pay attention to the ‘conclusions'”

      So, since those “conclusions” will most likely determine that the perps will not be punished and will be portrayed as innocent in media spin, we’ll at least have the “pleasure” of knowing they SHOULD have been punished, but weren’t? LOL! That’s kinda’ like being a regular reader here, no?

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  8. Gary Lacey says:

    I pray it is more than lip service, but if the report covers over the narrative, ie, attempt to take out an elected president, then it over for America, the double standard will destroy our belief in the Constitution, law and justice.

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  9. ontoiran says:

    so our leos are omnipotent now. not only can they divine that hiliary did NOT intend to commit a crime; but they can also tell that a red flag offender DOES intend to commit a crime

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  10. ontoiran says:

    so our leos are omnipotent now. not only can they divine that hiliary did NOT intend to commit a crime; but they can also tell that a red flag offender DOES intend to commit a crime

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  11. Martin says:

    Cold anger.

    The only intent they cannot fiddle with is that of the voter. Guilt or innocence by political affiliation is nothing new, even the new not innocent for fun and profit.

    The flip side is that short of self immolation or shouting at the sky over what amounts to an HR Department report, if there are no indictments, arrests, or serious consequences, the connection will be rather quickly drawn between the coup plotters and the faux impeachment crew, at least in the minds of a large portion of the electorate. Not good for the Dems. Nor the expectation of what Durham has on them.

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    • pyromancer76 says:

      Voting machines are destroying the intent of the voter. By secretive software, those machines decide your intent — and you intend to vote for communists every time, or at least enough of the time so that evil triumphs.

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  12. Bert Darrell says:

    IMHO:
    I’ve seen it before in European and South American countries. When crime and corruption by government figures go unpunished, unlawfulness extends to common folks and the country eventually becomes a a bad smelly place. We are very close to getting a peak at where the USA is headed.

    I’m not a pesimist by nature, but all of the unpunished crimes committed by DOJ, FBI, CIA, IRS, cabinet members, congress personalities and their staff, foreign service, and media critters in recent years suggest that the USA is on its way to joining the smelly trend.

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    • bertdilbert says:

      Here is what I am thinking Bert. Hanging and firing squad is not going to sell as well as a stadium filled to the brim with a public wood chipper. I am talking pay per view prime time to cut out all the fake news from advertising dollars.

      The stadium admission and pay per view revenue would go to reimburse taxpayer funds stolen, which would otherwise be unrecoverable.

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    • Toenail says:

      Or maybe we are already a smelly place and just refusing to admit it.

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    • Garavaglia says:

      Realism. I ask God each day to help me see the way things are, not the way I think or want them to be. I try..lol.

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      • ms doodlebug says:

        And the answer is “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”

        The same thing the people were wrestling with when Jesus walked this earth.

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  13. RAC says:

    Lack of intent should really be the sob story in mitigation one gives AFTER one has been charged tried and found guilty.
    But then again I’m not a lawyer, nothing close even.

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  14. TMonroe says:

    ““Intent”, not consequence, is now the larger shield being applied toward excusing the action of people within institutions of government and society.”

    It worked for plenty of Germans who claimed they were just following orders, as the percentages tried in the American zone that actually served sentences commensurate with their actions appeared to be disproportionately small.

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    • Jim in TN says:

      Actually, this is worse. This is like ‘I was just trying to make the world a better place when I followed those orders.’ Imagine letting off all of the murderers because their intentions were good.

      After all, it is provable that the small group’s intent was to enthrone Hillary and defeat Trump. Failing that their intent was to frame Trump for impeachment. The biggest bias in the world.

      And yes, Horowitz has already blatantly covered up this raging bias in his previous reports, so he is not going to contradict himself now.

      Indeed, the only thing Horowitz seems to think is a crime is lying to FBI investigators.

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  15. capetribulation1 says:

    I fully expect subjective intent will be the traitor’s loophole. The vast majority of those we have sent to DC and pay to safeguard our liberties are corrupted cowards. Elections no longer have meaning; votes can easily be flipped; Presidents can be subverted at every turn. All institutions are complicit. There appears to be no way to right the ship short of physically taking up (insert four letter word here that dare not be written, proving my point). Welcome to the Police State,

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    • littlebird160 says:

      “It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.”
      Joseph Stalin

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  16. Sundance keeps hinting, how long before more of you wake up to the fact that Bill Barr is the one running this show? He’s not coming to save Trump or the Country, he’s out to save his fellow snakes.

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    • Tl Howard says:

      Then, Sundance will have to face facts as well, that POTuS has been tricked, tricked once too many times and is a dunce for only a dunce would let this get this far w/out declassifying things that would exonerate him long ago.

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      • I’ll let it play out a little more before labeling Trump a “dunce”. He’s certainly been given bad info/recommendations by those around him. The Deep State runs DEEP. Someone with Barr’s history should have never been chosen to expose the swamp, he IS the swamp ffs.

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  17. fractionalexponent says:

    Dr. Horowitz’s job, bias, and intent, is to save the gangrene, not the leg.

    The solution to this approach is to amputate or the patient will die.

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  18. So we potentially have an IG report which will – for all practical purposes – say that gross negligence leading up to a law federal law enforcement officer signing a sworn affidavit which will permit the government to overcome a citizen’s Fourth Amendment Rights contrary to every SOP and bit of instruction that a rookie police officer would undergo on day one of the training academy is cool because the DOJ & FBI is populated by idiots.

    Too thin.

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  19. Genie says:

    “Yes, Mr. I.G., my only intent was to go ‘by the book’ in everything I did.”

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  20. johnnyfandango says:

    I’m dumbfounded. You are to tell me that all these meetings which led to events to scheme and entrap Trump and his administration, before and after his election was just for kicks. The Comey meeting with his plotters to discuss his meeting with Trump and how he was going to share with Trump parts of Steele Dossier, the convenient way Comey left his laptop in his limo to memorialize ”his version” immediately after the Trump meeting, then leak the info to the press, it was all spontaneous and nothing intentional…that is just a redicioulus notion.

    Bottom line is our Government is corrupt. Our law institutions are corrupt. Our Press is Corrupt. We see it with our own eyes everyday. It makes me sick to my stomach. A lot of planning with intent went into this corruption. No whitewash and IG cover-up will ever changes these facts.

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  21. Mike says:

    Why beat yourself up with needless speculation? We can judge for ourselves tomorrow when we have the source document. Hopefully, redactions are kept to a bare minimum.

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  22. Santiago1314 says:

    More like “Un-Thought” Crimes… They broke the Law, but they didn’t THINK about breaking the Law; so you can’t charge them.!!!… Man, I hope i can use that on my next Speeding Ticket…

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    • Springstreet says:

      I believe the term you’re looking for is thoughtless. Yes, Your Honor, I was thoughtless. Can I go home now?

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    • Jim in TN says:

      Would singing “I can’t drive 55” help you demonstrate lack of intent, or prove it?

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      • Greg1 says:

        Well, it depends. In stating “I can’t drive 55”, one is saying they don’t have the ability to follow the law, therefore they should not be accountable for it.

        Adding to the simplicity of the situation, our hapless singer lays out his case in the song. “When I drive that slow you know it’s hard to steer”. Now, let’s be serious for a moment. If driving that slow makes it hard to steer, then it goes without saying that it becomes “unsafe” to steer. You wouldn’t want someone driving a car that through no fault of its own is unsafe to steer, would you? Of course not. That would be reckless and irresponsible. It would be un-American! (Somewhere, Obama smiles without even knowing why)

        And, adding to the incontrovertible logic of the proposition, regarding driving the unjustly slow speed that everyone else must follow or suffer punishment, the singer CLEARLY states “and I can’t get my car out of second gear”, which means he’s burning more fuel and therefore contributing to global warming! Do you really want someone to contribute to the DESTRUCTION OF LIFE ITSELF because they, like all the little people, have to drive 55? Of COURSE you don’t.

        And another incontrovertible point is that “what used to take two hours now takes all day, it took me sixteen hours to get to L.A.!”.

        How mind bogglingly inconsiderate is it to force one to delay going to L.A., one of the great democratic strongholds? Forcing one to delay arrival in a great democratic stronghold is a clear example of bias against liberals and cannot be abided. It’s, it’s, it’s ……racist and misogynistic!

        Besides, no REASONABLE prosecutor would bring a case against it……..if you don’t believe me just ask me!

        You.are.welcome.

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  23. Granite says:

    The other side of the “intent” coin is the tactic of assigning intent where none exists…such as this whole “trying to get dirt on Biden” nonsense.

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  24. amwick says:

    Scott Adams uses a phrase that (I think ) describes “intent”, he calls it mind reading. It makes sense now, not in a good way. Intent, mind reading. Well, dmn.

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  25. Great perspective & insight into this topic nicely complimenting SD’s observations
    ——————————————-

    Bill Barr’s Reservations About the IG Report

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/12/08/bill_barrs_reservations_about_the_ig_report_141892.html

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    • beach lover says:

      great article.. thanks for posting.

      FTA
      “There can be little doubt, at this point, that Ukraine attempted to interfere in the 2016 U.S. presidential election on behalf of the Washington establishment’s preferred candidate, Hillary Clinton. As I noted in March, Politico ran a piece headlined “Ukrainian Efforts to Sabotage Trump Backfire” on January 11, 2017, reporting that Alexandra Chalupa, a Ukrainian-American operative, began doing opposition research for the DNC on Trump in late 2015. The piece concluded that, “The Ukrainian efforts had an impact in the race, helping to force [Paul] Manafort’s resignation and advancing the narrative that Trump’s campaign was deeply connected to Ukraine’s foe to the east, Russia.”

      There is little doubt, either, that the Obama administration worked closely with Chalupa.”

      Seems Lindsay G is on the right track, along with Nunes on this Chalupa character. Will be interesting to see how this all ties nicely together.. the Ukraine connection was NOT the phone call.. it’s just the only thing they had to try to change the subject. Maybe not even Hunter Biden, although that is the most obvious. This is squarely about the Obama administration and it’s manipulation with a corrupt government. They are trying to hide it all by using impeachment.

      PS.. what they did to Manafort is criminal.

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    • Sugarhillhardrock says:

      Good get, Clivus, thank you.

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  26. bulwarker says:

    If you still can’t see how this is the exact same set up as the prior carefully worded IG reports, which promised the world but ultimately obfuscated and exonerated DOJ abuses, you are blind. Of course the Next Time Republicans will all cry out, “just wait until the Durham report, wait until then for accountability, next time we will get them!” And of course, they will be wrong. It’s obvious that these IG investigations, culminating with Durham, have been spaced out to string the public along over the last four years. All the while the Swamp continues with business as usual.

    The bottom line, the swamp creatures know the DOJ is too big to fail and they are doing everything they can to protect it.

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    • Jim in TN says:

      Especially since prosecutors are not supposed to report accusations that don’t pan out. If there are no important indictments, and he is doing a real investigation, not a coverup, we won’t be hearing much from Durham, not like we did from Comey and Mueller.

      Oops, did I just imply that we will have a report from Durham’s coverup?

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    • George 1 says:

      Have to agree Bulwarker. It just stands to reason that if the powers that be were intending to hold people accountable for these crimes then at least a few of them would, by now, be dealing with the justice system.

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  27. Jaap Titulaer says:

    Well, of course, there will be a powerful drive to do a whitewash.

    But when evidence is everywhere, the blood is dripping of the walls and the criminals leave reams of recordings, emails & documents, it gets a bit difficult to do a thorough enough cleaning job…

    So while the IG can claim lack of intent, there still will be the evidence. Lot’s of it & all of it damming.

    Best solution: declassify each and any related document.
    Claim that this is required due to the release of the IG report, and most people will simply ignore whatever the report ‘concludes’ or argues because it will all be there for us all to judge by ourselves.
    Of course, the MSM will then use the ‘conclusions’ to try to continue to mislead people, but that will then quickly become an attempt to outdo Baghdad Bob.

    And we’ll have a great time on Twitter doing it 🙂

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  28. Blind no Longer says:

    I think some guy charged with a DUI should try this defense…”Your Honor I didn’t intend to drive my car and hit another car causing major injuries to other people…once I realized I should call a cab, I did…but when the cab didn’t show up the bar owner told me I had to leave because the bar was closing and he thought I was good to drive.”

    No intent to drive under the influence and had every intent to do the right thing and obey the law…people got hurt and I broke the law but somebody else told me I was good to go. I was just listening to them with good intentions.

    Yeah they think we’re that stupid and will accept any excuse and explanation for their actions if “intent” is all that counts.

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  29. Don McAro says:

    I have a feeling fellow Trump supporters are going to be pleasantly surprised tomorrow…
    And the Media will do their best to cover it up… but look for action by thurday….. that will be the day the tide changes

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  30. Dan Shubert says:

    We should all chill… wait for the report to be released. All of these wild posts makes us look like CNN or MSNBC

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  31. matismf says:

    IG Horowitz is a DoJ employee. THERE ARE NO “good” DoJ employees. And there have not been any since AT LEAST Whitey Bulger. Same goes for the FBI. Execute every one of them for their treason, then put their heads on pikes around the Beltway. Pour encourager les autres!

    Whitey Bulger.
    Ruby Ridge.
    Hutaree militia.
    Waco.
    Bundy ranch.
    Malheur.
    Garland, Texas.
    and now this latest Deep State treason.

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  32. burnett044 says:

    was it my intent to post this.??

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    • Zippy says:

      There’s a great essay somewhere online showing point by point how we live in a combination of the “1984,” “Brave New World,” and “Fahrenheit 451” dystopias. I have this prophetically accurate quote in my quotes file:

      “Now let’s take up the minorities in our civilization, shall we? Bigger the population, the more minorities. Don’t step on the toes of the dog-lovers, the cat-lovers, doctors, lawyers, merchants, chiefs, Mormons, Baptists, Unitarians, second-generation Chinese, Swedes, Italians, Germans, Texans, Brooklynites, Irishmen, people from Oregon or Mexico. The people in this book, this play, this TV serial are not meant to represent any actual painters, cartographers, mechanics anywhere. The bigger your market, Montag, the less you handle controversy, remember that! All the minor, minor, minorities with their navels to be kept clean. Authors, full of evil thoughts, lock up your typewriters! They did. Magazines became a nice blend of vanilla tapioca. Books, so the damned snobbish critics said, were dishwater. No wonder books stopped selling, the critics said. But the public, knowing what it wanted, spinning happily, let the comic-books survive. And the three-dimensional sex magazines, of course. There you have it, Montag. It didn’t come from the Government down. There was no dictum, no declaration, no censorship, to start with, no! Technology, mass exploitation, and minority pressure carried the trick, thank God. Today, thanks to them, you can stay happy all the time, you are allowed to read comics, the good old confessions, or trade journals.” – Fahrenheit 451 (1953) – Beatty’s speech to Montag

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  33. MitchRyderDetroitWheels says:

    Even Bill Barr is aware that we either have a rule of law or we don’t. What we know is half of the top brass at the FBI has already been fired or quit so don’t tell us there was no F intent.

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    • Things that give me encouragement:

      Barr predates the Clinton / Reno / Holder / Comey etc…era of increasing DOJ/FBI corruption which began in 1993 which 0bama / Holder / Lynch put into hyperdrive.

      Barr’s recent addresses to groups like the Federalist society which are underpinned by what I believe is a sincere sense of right and wrong based on traditional Christian values.

      Political dirty trucks are as old as civilization, but what just occurred – blatantly violating the
      Fourth (et. al.) Amendment Rights of private citizens as part of their ‘tricks’ – is beyond the pale & cannot be allowed to stand.

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      • Garavaglia says:

        Yet it will be allowed to stand (my opinion because I haven’t seen the report yet), unless actual citizens do something about it.

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    • Zippy says:

      “half of the top brass at the FBI has already been fired or quit”

      Being fired or quitting to go on to lucrative six or seven figure reward jobs in the swamp is not even remotely any kind of deterrent. Only bubba prison sentences are, exactly the same thing we peons would get.

      “so don’t tell us there was no F intent.”

      They know there was, so do we… but it just doesn’t matter. Corrupt systems simply cannot be expected to indict THEMSELVES.

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    • Linda K. says:

      I wonder if Durham has had his talk with Brennan, Yates, Comey, Strzok, Page and so on and that is why the IG report can be released. They are on record, hopefully before a Grand Jury.

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  34. cboldt says:

    — A corrupt official doesn’t even need to put a finger on the scales of justice, once the scales are intentionally mis-calibrated like this. —
    This sort of rhetorical manipulation is how the maladministration of justice is accomplished. Penumbra of an emanation, no direct evidence, no reasonable prosecutor sort of analytically meaningless language is enough to swing an outcome from one side to the other.
    Jussie Smollett “paid sufficiently” via community service, so prosecutorial discretion declines to push further.
    These people all play in the same sandbox.
    You used a great hypothetical example, “but no direct evidence of intentional wrongdoing was attributable to a coordinated political effort.” That is a stack of multiple elements, DIRECT evidence, COORDINATED effort (whatever that means), and the insinuation that if all the elements aren’t met, then EXONERATION.
    The people are hip to this chicanery. They just happen to like it when it helps their guy, and dislike it otherwise.
    Also keep in mind that the system is rigged so that the hurdle for wrongdoing by the government is ridiculously high, by design. The king can do no wrong is applied as though the prosecutors, investigators, deep state actors, those people are “the king.” The system is the king, and it not accountable.

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  35. BigTalkers says:

    Lindsey has stated he’s stepping down as Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee at the end of this year, to be replaced by the Committee’s former Chair, Sen Grassley…

    “Delay, Delay, DELAY!”

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  36. Broc says:

    I thought “ignorance of the law” is not an excuse. Isn’t not having intent just another form of ignorance”

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  37. lemontree says:

    I haven’t seen ANYONE predict there would be criminal indictments in the Horowitz report. Criminal referrals maybe, but everyone knows Horowitz cannot indict anyone himself.

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    • Garavaglia says:

      You would be surprised on the Horowitz/indictment scenario. Many people believe these inspectors have all encompassing power to interview all the way to send people to Gitmo. To be clear to anyone reading this, only a grand jury can indict, and a process proceeds a grand jury. This is not a movie.

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  38. Bogeyfree says:

    My bet, another Perfect Storm……..

    Amazing, what are the odds of 2 in a row?

    I hope history will clearly identify and name the 2-3 people who could have saved this Republic but chose not to.

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  39. BE says:

    Two thoughts:
    President Trumps second term (there will be one) he will clean house.
    #2
    Wake me up when someone goes to jail for things the rest of us would already be there for.

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  40. bluebongo says:

    Exactly. The Miami-Dade PD didn’t intend to shoot the hostage, and innocent bystanders, while shooting their guns through the windows of a van full of family, in the middle of an extremely busy intersection. Therefore their actions were completely justified /sarc ( just in case …)

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  41. CorwinAmber says:

    ah yes, INTENT…well, ya know that an IG report is based upon “findings” without which there is simply no reason to write a report. That being said, the motto of the IG is “Droit et Avant” which essentially means “be right and then go forward” so “being right” is the cornerstone of any IG effort. And, in order to “be right”, you have to figure out why the deficiency you are about to write up occurred. So, normally every serious finding has to undergo a root cause analysis which is boiled down to three possibilities: the miscreant did not know of the requirement OR the miscreant knew but could not comply OR the miscreant knew and intentionally did not comply…the last one being the trickiest to ascertain IMHO.

    FWIW, in my long experience, I rarely ever encountered someone who would bluntly say that they did not comply because they disagreed with the requirement…it did happen a few times, which led to lengthy “philosophical” discussions about the risk the individual was running for himself, his unit, his commander, his country. I always said that if you follow the rules as written as best you can, you won’t be the fall guy in the event of an accident, but if you intentionally deviate, they (meaning me sometimes) are going to throw the book at you. If you have a problem with a requirement, complain about it in regular order and I’ll help you if I can if you are being ignored. Doesn’t always work, isn’t a perfect system, but what is?

    In any event, I look forward to perusing the product, so to speak, and I remain confident that the IG will do its duty to report its findings…what management does with it after that is anyone’s guess. Merry Christmas y’all, and no matter what happens, I am still proud of my vote for our VSG POTUS…and look forward to the next one next year.

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    • Michael Alexander says:

      A Convention of States can on!y propose amendments to the Constitution that Congress refuses or fails to propose. Any such proposal then must be ratified by 38 states. Mandatory Term Limits for all federal officials would indeed pass if proposed, and would help avoid a repeat in the future of today’s levels of corruption, but would do nothing to cure the underlying rot in the institutional “shadow government” now known as the Deep State. An amendment addressing Crimes Against the Republic might also be in order.

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  42. BE says:

    Two thoughts here
    #1 President Trump’s second term, there will be one, he will clean house.
    #2 Wake me up when someone goes to jail for crimes we the people would already be in jail for.

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  43. Bogeyfree says:

    Question, can the Convention of States vote to oust Pelosi and Shifty to send a message that this massive and unethical bias behavior to get PT is unacceptable and it is THEY that must go?

    Second question would be if the answer above is no then at least we need a Convention of States to put in terms limits for Senators and Congressmen. IMO max 2 terms (12 yrs) for a Senator and 5 terms (10 yrs) for a Congressmen.

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    • Zy says:

      What year are you aiming for a resolution?

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      • Michael Alexander says:

        That a remedy takes time is no excuse for inaction (or ridicule)… Remember, it took 12 years to get from Revolution to Ratification. Sometimes the most important arrow in a Patriot’s quiver is Patience.

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    • Michael Alexander says:

      A Convention of States can on!y propose amendments to the Constitution that Congress refuses or fails to propose. Any such proposal then must be ratified by 38 states. Mandatory Term Limits for all federal officials would indeed pass if proposed, and would help avoid a repeat in the future of today’s levels of corruption, but would do nothing to cure the underlying rot in the institutional “shadow government” now known as the Deep State. An amendment addressing Crimes Against the Republic might also be in order.

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  44. Garavaglia says:

    We are a nation that has laws. not a nation of law. Sorry folks, but that’s a true story.

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  45. Bogeyfree says:

    The poll we need is what % of Americans trust……..

    Congress

    The FBI

    The DOJ

    My guess is all are now under 20% or 80% DO NOT TRUST 3 of our biggest Government Institutions.

    The DS and Sweepers IMO have destroyed this Republic and 61M voters don’t even realize it yet.

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  46. digleigh says:

    “Evil will be called good, and good will be called evil….(scripture)…A bit off subject….While our intels are busy spying on American citizens, framing a President, and ignoring horrendous criminal behavior by calling it….”they didn’t mean to”??? ;We have Saudi nationals running around that were buddies with guy who slaughtered 3 of our innocent, brave young men in Pensacola, while they film, and watch with glee….. I remember writing our Valdosta folks at Moody air force base warning them about the awol Afghans….( I still don’t know if they were found) in Dec. 2015..The program was discreetly closed around Jan. 2019 by the Pentagon, some say due to half of the pilots going AWOL??? When will the men in America wake up?? Here was the email response ( as I asked them to be vigilent because of Sarnov brothers, and San Bernandino) ” ( I could not understand why they were NOT putting out pictures!!).. RESPONSE from the public affairs officer…”Currently, Air Force Officials are working with local and federal law enforcement officials agencies to find the two individuals. The Air Force is not publically releasing the names or photos of the individuals at this time. We do not assess any THREAT from these individuals and they have done NOTHING wrong other than not report for duty . Additionally, the two have worked closely with American counterparts for nearly a year, and we are working through official channels to return them safely..” According to AJC,this program was quietly terminated by the Pentagon (they admitted it was a moneymaker for the base…) Who is paying for this? How many programs like this nationwide?? Boy, how naive at best, nefarious at worst we are…..Law enforcement had NO PROBLEM splashing Richard Jewell’s name and face all over America, however??? An innocent CITIZEN……..We need some brave reporters, and flooding DOJ, Pentagon, with complaints fromWE the PEOPLE, demanding justice in this land…..

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  47. Merkin Muffley says:

    But there is one element in this case that the others never had, and that’s the appointment of a federal prosecutor. No matter what Horowitz decides, Barr thought there was enough there to appoint Durham. This is all in Durham’s hands now. Horowitz is the Chef of the Past. Durham is the Chef of the Future.

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    • Bogeyfree says:

      The first question after the IG Report comes out is someone MUST ask AG Barr……

      Did you depose Jullian Assange? If no why not?

      That single answer IMO will tell Americans all they need to know.

      Remember actions or lack of actions speak far more than words.

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  48. L4grasshopper says:

    “A corrupt official doesn’t even need to put a finger on the scales of justice, once the scales are intentionally mis-calibrated like this.”
    ====
    The observation of the decade.

    The $64,000 question: will Barr buy it? We are going to find out.

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  49. Bogeyfree says:

    Just checking back in…….

    It’s been 2 weeks since Grassley and Graham have sent their letters to the Treasury and to Pompeo.

    Has anyone seen or reported or talked about any responses yet??

    And these are Republican leaders sending letters to agencies led by Republicans.

    And so far NADA.

    IMO more letters for show and more reason to be concerned that the fix IMO is in.

    The next indicator will obviously be the IG Report but IMO it will be the Barr Executive Summary or Barr news conference post IG Report coupled with the McConnell Senate rules that will tell it all once and for all.

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