Incredible – FBI Blocking Release of Unredacted Text Messages Between Lisa Page and Peter Strzok…

…Every minute spent outraged at what Muller did yesterday, is one minute less that Bill Barr is being held accountable for what he is not doing today…

Judicial Watch is fighting for one of the more critical buckets of “declassified documents” from within Spygate that has never made sense.  This goes to the heart of a two-year-long contention: Why were the Page/Strzok text messages redacted in the first place?  Why are their unredacted text messages being protected?  Who benefits from this roadblock?

The FBI wants to wait until AFTER the 2020 election to release the Lisa Page and Peter Strzok text messages?  Whiskey – Tango – Foxtrot !   Enough.  This alone should be like a million warning flares shooting skyward simultaneously for those who demand justice.

(Judicial Watch Link)

These are critical questions.  Actually, long-standing and unresolved questions that we have carried for two years.  On December 1st, 2017, the day after Michael Flynn signed a coerced guilty plea, the first batch of text messages between Lisa Page and Peter Strzok became public.   Who the hell released them?  Why? …and ultimately what national security issue exists that would require them to be redacted?

These are open, non-encrypted, messages – using government phones – between a DOJ lawyer assigned to former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe and FBI Special Agent Peter Strzok.  The content did not travel through protected and/or classified systems. So why were the text messages redacted when they were made public?

No-one has ever answered these questions.  I have more, but those basic questions are the starting point -that creates the foundation of suspicion- of a thoroughly corrupt CURRENT DOJ and FBI set of officials.  FBI Director Christopher Wray, Deputy FBI Director David Bowditch and FBI legal counsel Dana Boente {Go Deep} are at the epicenter of this specific issue.

Do not forget that HPSCI Ranking Member Devin Nunes has already stated publicly that FBI Director Wray and FBI Legal Counsel Dana Boente should face criminal referrals.

Why would those current FBI officials be fighting the public release of those messages?

What functional value was there to give AG Bill Barr declassification authority, if he is going to participate in allowing FBI officials to hide material that shouldn’t even be classified in the first place?

If this in-our-face position doesn’t scream of a cover-up, then nothing does.

We were already forced to accept the bitter pill of DOJ manipulation when DOJ officials, before Bill Barr, intentionally covered-up the openly corrupt behavior of the Senate Intelligence Committee and James Wolfe.  [Details Here]

A branch of the United States government (Legislative) was attempting a coup against the leader of another branch of government (Executive); by using planted and designated corrupt agents within the cabinet… (more)

Now we are supposed to just accept that there is some justifiable reason to hide the Page/Strzok text messages until after the 2020 presidential election?

Oh, hell to the NO !

On May 23rd, 2019, President Donald Trump gave U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr full authority to review and release all of the classified material hidden by the DOJ, FBI, State Department, CIA, FISA Court, and aggregate intelligence apparatus.  It’s been over 90 days…

 

 

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499 Responses to Incredible – FBI Blocking Release of Unredacted Text Messages Between Lisa Page and Peter Strzok…

  1. Cathead says:

    I’m really trying to keep the faith that justice will be served but it gets harder each day. Barr support for the ME has me seriously worried we will not see the justice. Hope I’m wrong.

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    • Darrell Michael Richardson says:

      Gonna take a war. I say this as a man that has served and fought in 3 wars. The writting is on the wall and it is what they want.

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    • Julian says:

      What is ME?

      The good news is Barr believes Epstein committed suicide given what he’s been told so we can close the book on that one. It might have been a 1 in a 100 shot but apparently old Jeff Eps had had enough!

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      • GenEarly says:

        Suicided again! and you call it “good news”??? Sheesh, no wonder we are up the creek without a paddle.

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        • mark says:

          Suicided again! Where’s Pen and Teller when you need them? They could figure out the Epstein suicide trick. Let’s see, no check ups on Epstein, no video, sleeping guards and industrial bed sheets. I’d say all was well until 630 am when the paramedics got there and suicided Epstein. See how that trick works? Seth Rich gets to the hospital is sitting up talking then suddenly succumbed to his injuries and died. See how that trick works?
          Who are the paramedics in the jail cell with Epstein? Has anyone questioned them under oath and compared their story to the guards?

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      • subro52 says:

        I’m not sure but I think it refers to “Midyear Exam,” the investigation into Hillary Clinton. So far it appears Barr has no intention of reopening it even though there is ample evidence that the investigation was a sham and corrupt from the beginning with the outcome predetermined.

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      • subro52 says:

        I’m not sure but I think it refers to “Midyear Exam,” the investigation into Hillary Clinton. So far it appears Barr has no intention of reopening it even though there is ample evidence that the investigation was a sham and corrupt from the beginning with the outcome predetermined.

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    • Bob says:

      It surely now let’s us know that there is a lot of dirt in these file….which most of us knew.
      What’s President Trumps plan to stop the the interference? And get the files out in the open?

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  2. rayvandune says:

    Here’s a possible pointer to the overarching problem (and though it may look off-topic, I don’t think it really is).
    From “Why Hasn’t BREXIT Happened?”
    https://tinyurl.com/yxo7puql
    “May was just a talker when it came to immigration policy, but…. Once the judiciary rules politics, all politicians are just talkers.”

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    • FrogTongue says:

      I took the time to read the entire article. Informative for why Brexit has been stymied, the tail is wagging the dog and elitists oppose the proletariate . . . it’s the money, stupid!

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    • FrogTongue says:

      I took the time to read the entire article. Informative for why Brexit has been stymied, the tail is wagging the dog and elitists oppose the proletariate . . . it’s the money, stupid!

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  3. rayvandune says:

    Here’s a possible pointer to the overarching problem (and though it may look off-topic, I don’t think it really is).
    From “Why Hasn’t BREXIT Happened?”
    https://tinyurl.com/yxo7puql
    “May was just a talker when it came to immigration policy, but…. Once the judiciary rules politics, all politicians are just talkers.”

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  4. Brian Colley says:

    to all concerned if you believe Bill Barr is going to help you all had better go listen to George Webb on you tube.

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  5. need24give says:

    From what I’ve witnessed in the past year or so, it seems everyone, so far has been given just the right amount of rope at the proper time. Why waste any more resources once WE’re done with them.

    This is truly a miraculous time to be alive.

    Watch out for OUR lost Brothers and Sisters.

    Steve Pulling.

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    • jeff montanye says:

      i hope you are right. if trump is waiting for a better time closer to the election, i can understand it. if he is waiting to see how underlings behave when they have power, ditto. if he is letting the deep state further reveal itself by continuing its opposition, yeah, that too.

      but if the election comes and starts to go with not much more than hand wringing and tweets, i’m writing in tulsi gabbard.

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      • Rhoda R says:

        Like she’ll be better at controlling DC corruption? Like she’ll respect the Constitution? Like she’ll be better at reining in China? Get real.

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      • Elle says:

        I predicted years ago that the Tulsi Gabbard trolls woud be coming out right about now. I was beginning to think I was wrong and that they were just going to put her in the VP slot. Thanks for helping me win my bet.

        Tulsi is just another Obama. Selected by the globalists because she is a reliable progressive puppet who can incessantly squawk, ” Did I mention I was in the military?”

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      • As a man thinkth says:

        Millions of “NEW VOTERS” are crossing our bordors and being selectively planted in key congressional districts required to swing the 2020 election…Trillions of $$ are at stake and the MAGA deplorables are standing in the way of the organized globalist…

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        • Elle says:

          Yes, and that they are brought here by well funded and highly organized ngo’s these “new voters” have the resources they need to scoop up all the section 8 housing and other charity funds that were meant for our own down and out, thus creating millions of new homeless Americans. All a plus for the globalists who can easily manipulate the homeless votes.

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  6. ChampagneReady says:

    Wray needs to be bounced out of that FBI building tomorrow and Joe diGenova named immediate replacement as Acting Director.

    That Trump-hating, Comey-buddy mole couldn’t be any more of a Judas if he was on the Clinton Foundation payroll–and probably is !

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  7. dallasdan says:

    Wray serves at the pleasure of the AG.

    IMO, if you have been reading SD’s commentaries carefully, it is increasingly clear his immediate labeling of the AG nominee as “Bondo Barr,” the fixer, may reflect his usual prescience.

    This refusal by Wray, obviously supported by Barr, is perhaps the most blatant act of DOJ obstruction to-date. Unfortunately, if the suspicions of many that Barr is dirty are true, the President is no more than a frustrated bystander.

    The deep state’s game plan has been to obfuscate and to delay the release/declassification of any evidence injurious to the coup plotters. In this situation; check and check.

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    • Barnestormer says:

      I believe that’s incorrect. Unless there’s been a statutory change that I’ve missed, subject to Senate confirmation, the FBI director is appointed by the president for a fixed 10-year term, and can be terminated by the president under his inherent executive authority.

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      • dallasdan says:

        You are correct in the literal sense of the President appointing the FBI Director. I was not sufficiently clear in stating Wray’s subordinate, reporting relationship to Barr. The AG exercises authority over the FBI Director; hence Wray’s actions are ultimately the responsibility of Barr.

        IMO, the President will not fire Wray and create a firestorm during election season, and both Wray and Barr know that.

        Sorry for inducing confusion.

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        • amjean says:

          What you state makes the most sense.
          I respect Victoria Toensing and Joe DiGenova’s opinions and hope
          they haven’t also been duped by Barr, a man they obviously have held
          and do hold a lot of respect for. They have a lot of insight
          in to the workings FBI, DOJ and AG and this case, in particular, so let’s
          wait to see what their take on this is.

          Also, I just despise the lack of vision and intelligence from posters
          who state that if President Trump doesn’t do this or that they will
          vote for an idiot. Does that make them idiots too? I suspect, yes.
          (I know most of them are trolls).

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        • As a man thinkth says:

          …What about the firestorm if President Trump does not fire Wray?

          The deplorables are watching, and that is the voter base for 2020…

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    • lolli says:

      👍dallasdan

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    • Michael Todaro says:

      Tick Tock…Tick Tock…
      ” …to the last syllable of recorded time.”

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    • Julian says:

      The only problem with all that is.

      Trump is playing 94D Chess and the Deep State are playing Checkers.

      They won’t know what hit them!

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  8. Barnestormer says:

    Why is the 2020 election the pivot date? If, as some on this board have suggested, the concern is over potential jury prejudice, how can the election date be said to align with the uncertainties of a trial calendar?

    Alternatively, how does the old stand-by of avoiding the influence on an election wash? It’s more than 14 months away, and the issue is the release of unclassified agency communications, not the announcement of an indictment. Is the standard now the absurdity of not releasing any government information that could influence an election?

    And who exactly would be unduly prejudiced by release of the emails? President Trump, the object of scorn of Strzok and Page? The Dem to be named later (but probably not Hillary, the Strzok-Page beneficiary)?

    Or is it even the presidential election that’s the object of the coverup? Could it be that the emails implicate members of congress, or senators up for re-election?

    Whatever the real answer is, the question is, why don’t voters have the right to know?

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    • De Oppresso Liber says:

      I didn’t realize until you asked that question, that there are evidently lots of people who are not aware that because many elected members of congress (both houses) are up for reelection is exactly why the stonewalling and obfuscation exists. And none of them (politicians) actually view indictments and/or prosecutions as even a possibility. Sadly, they may be correct.

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    • Stickboy says:

      “Whatever the real answer is, the question is, why don’t voters have the right to know?”

      ________________________________________________________________________________

      The voters gave up any rights to know a long time ago. They abdicated their responsibilities in favor of letting the government take care of them. They did as people do, they got lazy……and the worst part is, they still expect the government to take care of them…….cause they’re, like, paid to do that.

      Then they wonder how things got so out of control.

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    • TPW says:

      Bigger question is why is it all we do is whine We deserve everything we get.

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    • Sharpshorts says:

      “…we don’t need to show you no stinking [voter’s rights]…”
      or
      “Because I’m the mommy and I say so”.. works as the final answer for the frustrated mother dealing with her unruly children.
      Seems that much of the world does not want to grow up.

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    • farrier105 says:

      In regards to “potential jury prejudice,” many people have short term memory problems. Here are some things done recently by DOJ, under Rod Rosenstein, that could be interpreted as causing “potential jury prejudice”:

      1. The SWAT raids on Roger Stone, live on CNN, complete with assault rifles and body armor, and Paul Manafort wherein his suits, taken from his bedroom closet, were held up for the video camera with their prices cited in the media. Many were custom suits with 4-figure price tags.

      2. The constant leaking in order to generate the breathless reporting on MSM of an alleged connection between the Russian government and the Trump Administration.

      3. On the other side we have the Inspector General Report of FBI and Department of Justice Actions in the 2016 Election. Let us look at a list of facts exposed to the public, including “potential jurors,” in the wake of the highly controversial report being made public with Wikipedia’s list of facts from the report:

      The Inspector General’s office centered on six primary allegations regarding Clinton’s private email server:[1]

      1. allegations that DOJ or FBI policies or procedures were not followed in regards to then-FBI director James Comey’s public announcement on July 5, 2016, and Comey’s letters to congress on October 28 and November 6, 2016

      2. allegations that certain investigative decisions were based on improper considerations

      3. allegations that then FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe should have been recused from participating in certain investigative matters

      4. allegations that the DOJ’s then Assistant Attorney General for Legislative Affairs, Peter Kadzik, improperly disclosed non-public information and/or should have been recused from participating in certain matters

      5. allegations that Department and FBI employees improperly disclosed non-public information during the course of the investigation

      6. allegations that decisions regarding the timing of the FBI’s release of certain Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) documents on October 30 and November 1, 2016, and the use of a Twitter account to publicize this release, were influenced by improper considerations

      All of these matters listed above were to be made public without regard to any “prejudice to potential juries”. Here is an example of what was publicized by the report and the Inspector General’s PUBLIC appearance at a Congressional hearing:

      Andrew McCabe was PUBLICLY identified as a person who was the subject of a CRIMINAL REFERRAL for being “less than candid.” He was also fired from his position publicly, which could also be defined as being “prejudicial” to any potential jury, which, lest we forget, is why we have JURY SELECTION as part of pretrial procedures in criminal cases. McCabe was spared trial by Jeff Sessions recommending declination of prosecution because of McCabe’s “past service,” but would have had to stand trial had there been no declination.

      Now, the granddaddy of public announcements that could “prejudice future juries” was the SMOKING GUN WHITE HOUSE TAPE in the Watergate investigation. In the case of United States v. Nixon, the Supreme Court PUBLICLY ruled, in an 8-0 decision, that the White House not only had to surrender the tape to the Watergate Special Counsel, but had to make the tape’s contents PUBLIC, exposing any “potential jury” to the damning evidence that Nixon was part of the cover-up of the Watergate break-in. In the end, both tape and transcripts were available, resulting in the loss of all Nixon’s support among Republicans in the Senate, ensuring his conviction upon impeachment, followed by his indictment, after removal from office, for conspiracy to obstruct justice. Only President Ford’s pardon of Nixon prevented his indictment and prosecution in spite of the evidence against him being made public prior to ANY trial.

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    • Jederman says:

      “Alternatively, how does the old stand-by of avoiding the influence on an election wash?”

      Particularly when they have been stiff arming, obfuscating and dragging their feet for the previous two yrs.

      New DS rule: no damning evidence of DS malfeasance within two yrs of ANY national elections (Presidential and/or Congressional).

      Does the DS state know how to fix a problem or what.

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    • David A says:

      Avoiding influence on an election? We simply can’t stand the truth influencing an election.

      It looks like Barr is just one of the three amigos.

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  9. MustangBlues says:

    Justice waits: And everywhere, the wails and moans of Impatient whiners and spoiled adult teenagers, demanding their answers and indictments, with scalps, well, here’s is what you sound like to adults:

    Classic Car trips mewling chorus:

    “Momie, are we there yet? ,Momie, are we there YET?, Momie, are WE there YET? And

    Momie, are WE THERE YET??!!,

    Ha Ha. Yes that is what you sound like. Run outside now, to check if the sky is falling.

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    • paulashley says:

      Actually, by adults it’s known as righteous anger.

      Liked by 1 person

      • Stickboy says:

        “Actually, by adults it’s known as righteous anger.”

        ________________________________________________________________________________

        And the righteous anger is actually rather ridiculous as nobody will do anything apart from getting righteously angered……..and lets don’t forget the cold anger, love that cold anger thing.

        Hell, Barr could announce tomorrow that he’s dropping the whole thing, everyone is walking……..what is anyone gonna do about it?

        Nothing, that’s what.

        People should just let it play out cause there ain’t anything they can, or would do, anyway.

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    • Julian says:

      By not doing anything VISIBLE Trump managed to lose the House in 2018.

      Was that part of the plan Mustang?

      Why would Trump want to lose the HOUSE with all the problems that has caused himself.

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  10. paulashley says:

    “The FBI wants to wait until AFTER the 2020 election …”

    Here’s a question: Doesn’t this amount to election meddling, the very thing the FBI was accusing Trump of doing?

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    • Brian Baker says:

      Of course it does, and is.
      It is evident that the current institutionally corrupt DOJ/FBI will do nothing that benefits President Trump politically in any way, which includes telling the truth to the American people. This is only a slight improvement over the previous institutionally corrupt DOJ/FBI only doing things that hurt President Trump politically, which included outright lying to the American people.

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    • MelH says:

      Mueller’s election meddling of the mid-terms has never been cited, but what’s the use?

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  11. I feel as if we are watching the final denouement in a long, protracted kabuki theater of mammoth proportions. Just like the Epstein truth-embargo, the power that be are still and will continue to block any justice for the American people. Are they all corrupt?

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    • De Oppresso Liber says:

      No, not technically ALL of them, but a yuuuuge majority ARE. The release of these documents cuts right to the heart of the Uniparty. One must remember that there are numerous powerful republican senators and congressmen who are also bought-and-paid-for by the very same interests buying off the democrats.

      There are less than five republican congressmen I trust, and zero senators. Unless they are willing to read these documents from the House floor like Rep. Collins has done, we may NEVER hear the truth. What will President Trump do if it turns out that AG Barr has been duplicitous this entire time? I remember asking during his confirmation why McConnell and Co. were allowing such an easy process……

      And don’t even begin talking about Graham….he’s up for reelection in 2020, so remember what he was like only two years ago; only an utter fool would trust him.

      Much like everyone else, I can only trust that President Trump knows what is happening, and has both a plan to reveal the coup plotters in detail, or a Plan B should that be thwarted.

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      • Julian says:

        Let me guess.

        Matt Gaetz
        Jim Jordan
        Devin Nunes
        Mark Meadows
        ???

        Less than 5?

        I’d add Louis Gohmert, John Ratcliffe, Andy Biggs and give honorable mentions to a few more. I’d also add you can trust Rand Paul to stick rigidly to his values – even if you disagree with him.

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        • Julian says:

          Yes – Doug Collins being one of your 4?

          I’d say there might be a “Score” of decent folks in Congress. Agree with up thread. Tulsi is a Democrat – but she’s sensible and not bought and paid for – even if she has some wacky ideas.

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          • Tparty says:

            This is a member of the CFR and gun banner. Oops

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          • amjean says:

            I contend that no democrat is sensible nor not bought and paid for. I also conclude that
            many republicans are in the same category. When I found out that our house and
            senate do not write their own bills; typically lobbyists do that for them, I knew the fix
            was in. Wake up, it is socialist/globalist/communist/Marxists against conservatives
            from either party.

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        • De Oppresso Liber says:

          I should have said no more than five; I don’t know very much about Biggs, but I simply forgot about Louie Gohmert, and that’s an egregious error I’m glad you pointed out to me. Louie Gohmert has been a steadfast conservative and Patriot for many years, who has served his district well. He deserves both our appreciation and our recognition.

          As for Senator Paul, I do not necessarily dislike or distrust the man, I just don’t agree with his foreign policy positions very often at all; Like father, like son. Yet, despite my differences with him, I do feel he is an honest man, and is not a corrupt, crooked, American TRAITOR…….like the other senator from Kentucky.

          I would also like to recognize a man worthy of honorable mention: Rep. Doug Collins. He has only had limited exposure, obviously, but his decision to read sensitive documents (which the America haters wanted to remain unseen) from the house floor, not only to limit his legal jeopardy, but also to get the information out to We the People was very impressive, in my humble opinion; He may have a bright future indeed.

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      • Julian says:

        As for Miss. Lindsey. Who lives in South Carolina, and who will challenge this Swamp Dweller?

        Surely there is someone?

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        • De Oppresso Liber says:

          One would think, but greed makes for strange bedfellows as much as any other vice; Graham has probably spread enough money around to any and all potential rivals, as to mitigate the possibility of anyone opposing him.

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  12. bruzedorange says:

    Every Deep State move and countermove reveals more of their network of accomplices.

    Not sure if this is anyone’s intended strategy, but every time an appointee turns out to be Deep State, Trump’s anti-DS investigators are able to identify both the DS appointee and the Deep Staters who nominated him/her.

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  13. LULU says:

    I have tried to maintain confidence in Barr, but Sundance’s arguments to the contrary are strong and therefore effective. He is not shooting from the hip. If so, what a disappointment for President Trump and for us. I am sure PDJT is watching. As someone said up the thread, enough rope is being handed to each of those involved…including AG Barr. I am hopeful, but paying v. close attention…

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    • TPW says:

      I am sorry but has to be said …..Barr is making our PT look foolish. If he cant do anything then we must. I hope someone steps forward and takes the lead,. I figure maybe 20% informed to the extent we are. As I have said I really dont think PT has been given all the info and we cant just rely on him… we must do something we are looking weak compared to the hong kong protestors.

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      • Aeyrie says:

        “I hope someone steps forward and takes the lead,” How about you? I don’t want to embarrass anyone by calling them out, but since you made that statement TPW I hope you won’t mind that I use it to make a point about Human Nature. Nobody wants to take the risk of being the first one to stick his/her neck out and do something. And that’s how we all got here. Whoever takes the first step encourages the more timid sheep to follow. What will you risk doing? Today. Anyone? Together we are a stampede. Who wants to begin?

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    • David A says:

      Apparently Barr is just one of the three amigos. He tilted a drink to that himself.

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  14. Mike Lee DelMarcelle says:

    If there is a lawyer here please correct me if I’m wrong on this….. I think we are being snookered so to speak. If you were under serious investigation, with serious consequences (possibly life in prison) you would hire a high powered attorney. What would be the first thing they would tell you? DO NOT talk to anyone about this case except for me, do not answer any questions from anyone about this or share any information, especially with the media. Stay off of TV, radio and newspapers etc. If they were seriously under investigation then why do we keep seeing them pop up on tv, in the papers, on twitter etc? Because there is no legitimate investigation going on otherwise their cake holes would be shut!

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  15. Rosanne Losee says:

    This entire thing is like an ensuing nightmare. Justice is being thwarted at every turn. What we are witnessing is the perversion of all that is holy and right. Our very foundations of this republic are being smashed right in front of us, and I wonder now if the betrayers are legion.

    I pray to God this country rights its wrongs. Perhaps we need a grassroots attempt to make sure they hear us loud and clear!

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    • TPW says:

      Grassroots is exactly right….notice how you are being ignored? It is easier ti whine.

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    • HillaryisGuilty says:

      Go to Jim Marrs’ website. It’s still up. Scroll down News and Views to an article posted August 2nd, 2016. It’s about the former FBI agent who tried to get past security at the Trump Tower. It will make your hair stand on end. It goes beyond Spygate.

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  16. JoeMeek says:

    Looks like Barr is just a Trojan Horse.

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  17. k4jjj says:

    There are some plausible reasons for not yet releasing a lot of these communications.

    They may directly implicate President Obama himself who almost certainly masterminded the attempted coup and may be indicted. How could such a high-level coup attempt under the guise of counterintelligence NOT involve Obama? Obama is a world-class liar and thug. If a president is not above the law, that includes ALL presidents.

    There also may be discussions in these documents of a permanent insurance policy that involves the “A” word. These vicious traitors are a large, organized crime family and are ALL capable of ANYTHING with their own lives at stake.

    Keep in mind what the world’s communists have been willing to do for the last 100 years and the millions they have slaughtered. These people have and will run over innocents with tanks in their vicious and mercilous pursuit of absolute power.

    We keep hearing about pending disclosures that will “shock the conscience.” They are implying the worst we can imagine. Government actions that shock the conscience are the tinder for bloody revolutions. If they can’t tell us the truth, rest assured it is AWFUL.

    We have to face the reality the scale of corruption is beyond the ability of our present government and legal system to remedy. There is no evidence presented to date the guilty will pay any price.

    We are living in a violent banana republic in the worst sense of the term. This is wholesale wickedness like the country has never seen.

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    • California Joe says:

      No legitimate reason for not releasing texts that explain the FBI, CIA and DOJ attempt to frame the President of the United States for a crime that he didn’t commit and never even happened!

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      • butch cassidy says:

        Joe, do you have some inside info that the rest of us don’t have? We have no idea what’s happening behind the scenes. Yes it’s frustrating that it appears nothing is happening but we just don’t know. One thing for sure, it will happen on their (Barr and company) timeline not ours. How would you know that there is no “legitimate reason” for releasing anything at this point.
        Just the fact that we know what we know now is pretty amazing to me, If Trump didn’t win we would know none of this. I’m willing to wait a little while longer. I believe that the president will not let this be swept under the rug. He will have the last word.

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    • Peppurr says:

      Agree with all your post except the mastermind. I don’t believe it was Obama. I don’t think he’s that smart, but, he is a good Orator. I know he wanted to know everything (according to Page), but, I believe he was passing it on. Hardly heard a peep out of him, over the past couple of years altho recently he’s been in Italy, interfering there.

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      • OlderAndWiser says:

        I am in agreement with you re O – don’t think he is that smart or that he masterminded it. I do think that he covered it up – but again, using techniques that offered him plausible deniability, hence the Susan Rice email stating that O asked them to go by the book. That last one was to ensure the continued targeting of PDJT and the cover up.
        IMHO as I stated earlier, I think HRC was behind the whole thing: she conveyed the strategy, got Brennan had his cohorts to do a lot of the details (including telling Simpson and GPS what to do and providing Nellie Ohr access to NSA), and then got McCabe and Strzok in on the action. My personal belief (unpopular here) is that Comey was an unwitting player – the guy is too risk averse to do anything like this; he simply does not have the balls.
        Anyways, time will tell.

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  18. Justin Green says:

    If Barr is in charge of the FBI through his being head of the DOJ, then it’s a simple thing, one would think, to just order these to be released. So, either he’s not pressing the issue because he knows Durham is looking into it and it will come out, or he’s covering it up, too.

    I’m tired of the hope porn, so my expectation is that he’s just swap creature, too, until he proves otherwise.

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  19. rayvandune says:

    Who can we get into every helicopter press gaggle that will yell “WHERE IS THE DE-CLASSIFICATION?” Are they all MSM hacks?

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    • De Oppresso Liber says:

      Short answer – Yes, they are all MSM hacks. And the last damn thing you will ever hear them ask, is that President Trump declassify and release the documentation that will expose them all to be liars, hacks, and willing conspirators in a TREASONOUS PLOT.

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  20. ltravisjr says:

    Remember way, way early on, when PT was interviewed said that maybe it would be better for the country if we didn’t know everything? Also, he recently was asked (maybe it was by Hannity, I can’t remember) about his opinion of the delay in Barr acting on the declass authority he was given and he really just praised Barr and his team but otherwise gave a non-answer.

    I don’t know, but I just feel there is something outside our field of vision. There must be more to it than just a bunch of deep staters acting like fifth graders trying to keep the teacher from seeing the note they are passing around the class. There is something more to all this, and it’s unsettling.

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    • delighteddeplorable says:

      There’s a LOT MORE to this, most definitely. Concerns about civil unrest once all is known, Ozero’s part in the attempted coup, the “A” thing (which is too awful to contemplate), the sky’s the limit at this point.

      Not into hope porn but definitely into the reality that VVVSGPDJT is not right here, right now by accident. No way can that be the case given countless massive obstacles he’s conquered. So. Would POTUS/we be brought this far only to crash and burn? I believe not.

      No one ever said anything about “easy,” and doing it correctly TRUMPS all. IMO.
      MAGA/KAG

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      • California Joe says:

        The only way to SWAT the hell out of the Democrats and the news media is to release the texts and declassify everything especially if it discusses the “A” word or incriminates Obozo in the plot to frame the President of the United States for a crime he didn’t commit and a crime that never even happened!!!

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        • delighteddeplorable says:

          Yes Joe, I agree and believe that will happen. Maybe not the way we can imagine it right now, but happen nevertheless.

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        • leftnomore says:

          I keep reading here that the House R superheroes have seen the unredacted memos. Has Nunes seen them or not? Does Barr have docs he doesn’t have?

          I sense that more Rs will lose reelection (or fail to try) then DJT can bear to forfeit. Remember, our team is the one that resigns when fingered, not the Blues. Those cockroaches will survive it.

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  21. Don McAro says:

    Ok maybe a stupid question…But could president Trump sign an order and release them?

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  22. Blind no Longer says:

    The fact that after all this time, all this corruption exposed, and the fact that we know the Deep State players…NOT ONE charge, NOT ONE indictment…reminds me of something a corrupt congresswoman recently said, “Some people did something”.

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  23. California Joe says:

    Wray is another empty suit in a long line of empty suits running the FBI. Get rid of him, Mr. BARR!

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  24. Patience says:

    This is bigger than any mafia…. any cartel….any administration.
    Caution is necessary! It is ‘global’.

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  25. Trumpster45 says:

    No AG from the swamp will do anything to expose or arrest the Obama conspirators.

    Barr is no different than Sessions. He might show feigned outrage, but that’s it.

    Only way we’ll get justice is for Trump to hire a complete outsider AG. Problem is, Swamp Turtle McConnell won’t confirm an outsider. They’re all corrupt.

    Trump will have to take charge himself. Find one MAGA prosecutor within the DOJ and have him report directly to POTUS. Ignore Barr if he won’t do his job. There’s absolutely nothing preventing Trump from doing this. In fact, the original purpose of the AG was just to provide legal counsel. The POTUS can issue indictments if he wants.

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    • GP says:

      Hi Trumpster45-I’m no expert, but I don’t think POTUS can issue indicments-assuming that’s what you meant, I mean it’s what posted.

      Anyone else that can weigh in on this?

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      • Barnestormer says:

        Trumpster45, I was with you until your last sentence.

        As a Constitutional matter, only grand juries can issue a federal indictment; no individual has that authority. Some federal crimes can be charged other than by indictment: by “information,” limited to misdemeanors; and by “complaint,” a temporary procedure pending a formal charge.

        But the idea of a president’s authority as unitary executive, directly or by instruction to a subordinate (AG, U.S. Atty., AUSA) to convene and present evidence to a grand jury
        is a whole different discussion (and what I was taking your point to be until the end.)

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  26. GP says:

    Man oh man. Look, no one is going to jail. I’ve been saying same for 2 years. And while I appreciate someone getting fired up about wanting justice and saying stuff like “grass roots movement to ensure justice” be realistic-that is not gonna happen in a big enough way (think HK) to affect any real change. The DOJ/FBI act with impunity because they CAN and have for 60 years. Perhaps a quote from Frederick Douglass is apropo:

    “Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them.” Frederick Douglass

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  27. Kaco says:

    Obama managed to pollute every government agency within his presidency. Has NO progress been made on cleaning these agencies out?

    We’re getting told by the EPA to turn up our A/C to 82, the Dept of Education is still a mess, obviously. Marxism is being pushed throughout, Climate change is never disputed, gender bending pushed on our kids. I know we’re in a trade war, but we have to correct the minds of the nation as well. I’m worried about my kids, my youngest, a high school freshman, is starting to have some lefty ideas now. Yeah, of course, I talk to him but at some point, the indoctrination will be unstoppable. I say that because they were very much right wing a couple years ago and understood, and they were very much Trump supporters, now they complain, is that all you and dad talk about? They don’t understand the war that has been going on nonstop since the election.

    This is, indeed, a war for our country. Justice and sanity are just as important as the economics. Look at the Left now, SINCE Trump was elected, they have come out full commie/socialists. The culture is getting worse, not better.

    Man, I pray POTUS wins election in an indisputable landslide. I pray there’s enough sane people in this country to say, enough!

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    • GP says:

      Hi Kaco-you make a very good point. Sure there are jobs, jobs, jobs-everywhere (here in RTP NC) but these are low paying jobs, not “career” jobs. Here’s a link showing high tech jobs being sent to Israel while the same company that sent the jobs to Israel are all laying off American workers-all backed by a Republican Jewish billionaire who contributes millions to Trump:

      https://nationalvanguard.org/2019/08/how-jewish-billionaire-paul-singer-is-driving-the-outsourcing-of-us-tech-jobs-to-israel/

      I’m all for being optimistic and sure things could be way worse, but there’s not been a big culture swing (that’s hard to do in 4 years) and they’ve had a 60 year head start.

      Most people, good law-abiding people, I mean salt-of-the earth people are woefully either uninformed or dis-informed. This is by designed for control of the masses, the sheeple.

      There’s no returning to the America of the even the 90s-sometimes I think the NWO continues but there was a course correction and Trump was allowed to win.

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      • sDee says:

        RTP cites formed a regional government (Triangle J) and have long been on the urbanization agenda. In return for the political/bureaucratic decisions to urbanize, the area receives lots of federal funding and multinational corporate growth.

        It certainly is a region which shows that globalism, and the related federal agendas, are alive and well.

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  28. California Joe says:

    Wray is not only an incompetent idiot and a doofuss he’s a traitor, too. Fire the guy! Then name an acting replacement from outside the FBI that you trust to do the job for the American people!

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    • Bill says:

      Wray got his BFF…Sally Yates a job at his old law firm in Atlanta….no hope for Wray.
      Maybe some additional disclosures in forthcoming FISA or Comey IG reports??
      If there are any big surprises…we will likely hear about them first in leaks to WP or NYT.

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  29. joebkonobi says:

    I believe it is getting closer and closer to the time for the “Million Patriot March” on DC. We would be doing PDJT a big favor.

    I am appalled at the brazen gall of Wray, and co-conspirators to so transparently give us all the middle finger, knowing that they can get away with it. The truth must come out now AG Barr!

    PDJT is backed into a corner with the election coming up. He gave Barr all the authority he needs to expose the whole sorry deep state cabal. What are we here for if we cannot help PDJT out? We are much better off exposing the crimes, even if it means massive government chaos, than allowing a coup to take away our best President ever.

    PDJT has drawn the battle lines that you are either for America or against America. There is no in between at this point. What PDJT needs now are his faithful soldiers to make a stand. Waiting for the election and hoping for the best is surrender!

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    • underwhelmingposter says:

      “Million Patriot March” is a great idea! Any takers?

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    • Bogeyfree says:

      It would be faster and easier if at EVERY upcoming PT rally his 20k supporters took over by chanting…….

      Declass is a fraud……….Declass is a lie…………

      If you notice PT rarely speaks about Declass.

      And when Barr comes out and says he and Durham have found nothing illegal but departmental policies were “stretched” but we have made changes so this type of matter will never happen again, becomes the cover for PT’s statement.

      IMO, in the end it wasn’t PT who was snookered, it was us which is a hard pill to swallow.

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      • Barnestormer says:

        You could be onto something. President Trump listens at his rallies (which is why “KAG” will be on the new headgear.) But how about something less inflammatory, like DECLASS NOW!

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  30. Julian says:

    Trust Trump.

    I’m sure he knows what he’s doing.

    He hired Chris Wray to DO A JOB. Why sack Comey otherwise?

    He hired Jeff Sessions Billy Barr to DO A JOB.

    Trump put Sessions Barr & Wray in there for a reason. They are there to Drain the Swamp. It’s part of Trump’s plan. Trump is playing 44D Chess and his opponents in the Deep State are playing Checkers!!

    Enjoy!!

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  31. Hanuman says:

    Could there be cc recipients?
    Not revealed so far!

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  32. joebkonobi says:

    GP, maybe Frederic’s point was to not “submit quietly” or live with the consequences. In this case the consequences are Yuge, to yuge to ignore.

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  33. Benjamin Moore says:

    I want to read the obviously x rated texts between Strzok and Page. Clearly we haven’t seen those. Either that, or they had the blandest affair ever. Those texts will feed late night comedians for years to come. Maybe the FBI feels they could NEVER recover from that embarrassment.

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  34. albertus magnus says:

    Trust the plan, Trust the plan!

    Tick-tock, tick-tock.

    And make sure you let PDJT know that you are unhappy with HIS decisions to keep employees who are thwarting justice. If you are UNWILLING to blame the ONE person who can put a stop to this, your anger is really just part of the chaff and counter-measures that DeepState is employing to ride the clock out.

    I know, I know.

    Eeyore, eeyore.

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  35. kevin says:

    No mystery here, the FBI is owned by the democrats. Any further questions?

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  36. cantcforest says:

    Time to call Tommy Lee Jones and Will Smith to reprise Men in Black.
    Time for coffee.

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  37. mg says:

    Barr is a traitor. A deep state hack from way back. For crying out loud he was hired by a fricking booooosh.

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  38. desperatelyseekingmelania says:

    Strzok and Page are little fish. My only interest in them is how they can be compelled to testify against their higher ups (assuming they haven’t already). Their text messages are not that important.

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  39. TwoLaine says:

    Is there something in there on Jackson Cosko case? Is that what is being hidden? Jeffrey Epstein’s case maybe? The Awan Brothers case? OR is it WEINER & WIFIE?

    Why have we not seen the rest of the cabal’s texts, emails and instant messaging? McCabe and the rest of the insurance policy team?

    WE know they protected the VILE ILLARY, are they protecting Bumbling Biden?

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  40. Bogeyfree says:

    The Art of Getting Snookered!

    First, it is important for everyone to re-read comments from Barr back in May when he was interviewed by a CBS reporter.

    Attorney General William Barr said in an interview airing Friday that he doesn’t think Obama-era Department of Justice officials overseeing the Russia investigation committed treason “as a legal matter,” but he does have concerns about how they conducted the probe.

    “Sometimes people can convince themselves that what they’re doing is in the higher interest and better good, They don’t realize that what they’re doing is really antithetical to the democratic system that we have.”

    This sounds to me like we are going to get a whole bunch of, they didn’t do anything illegal but their methods and actions were not in line with department policy. Just look at the evidence so far – McCabe, Wolfe and now Comey. Decline to prosecute! NADA!

    So wrist slaps, retirements, new departmental policies and more training WITHOUT ANY indictments is how this will NEVER HAPPEN again and end IMO.

    Heck, even Strzock and McCabe now stand a good chance to be reinstated in the end with their recent lawsuits especially if the DOJ decides not to prosecute anyone.

    I originally thought PT would be a kick ass guy on this whole frame job/coup since he threatened almost a year ago to declass everything but IMO Barr and company seem to have a totally different plan.

    Looking back I realized just how easy PT has been snookered by all of this. Not once but multiple times with his various hiring decisions based on “peer” recommendations.

    Now, I believe PT has bought into the concept that the institutions can not go down and our intelligence gathering capabilities can not be severely limited or changed due to public outrage, while also providing PT with a solution to save face with his supporters.

    He rarely mentions declass anymore.

    So, in comes a reputable, retired AG who is also ex CIA by the way and who has secured and been delegated full declass and final decision making authority which allows IMO PT to distance himself when the final renderings come down.

    Barr’s mission IMO is to concluded no crimes were committed but departmental policies were exceeded, while reassuring the people that new safeguards have now been put in place so this will never happen again.

    PT can shrug his shoulders, saying he did drain the swamp by getting dozens out of government leadership positions and then say he trusts Barr and as long safeguards have been implemented so it won’t happen again, I’m OK with it.

    Durham, like Huber, who Sessions brought in, is all smoke IMO to make it appear that a deep dive and look-see has taken place and all rocks were overturned. Basically, necessary theater to give the appearance of thoroughness.

    The snookered part IMO is PT has bought into this exit strategy, thinking he can still wax the floor in Nov 2020 on anyone of these 20 socialists that the Dems keep putting on stage, even without indictments, while also protecting the institutions.

    Unfortunately IMO he is miscalculating just how important prosecution and justice for all is to his supporters. His supporters have waited patiently for 3 years for justice to be served. After all, it was a frickin coup by people in government to frame and take down a sitting President and that CAN NOT be swept under the rug.

    PT has one of the best economic minds ever and a very patriotic heart of gold but IMO has been totally snookered by the DS into thinking that by indicting deeply within the FBI/DOJ, it would damage forever these institutions and our patriotic duty to continue to use and allow our IC full capabilities to protect America and the world from forces of evil.

    In essence, the needs of the many and the world outweighs justice for a few.

    I hope for the sake of this country, I am wrong but the evidence and actions to-date scream otherwise IMO. So far we have, decline to prosecute anyone, no declass and now FBI delaying until after the election.

    The next indicator IMO is if the IG report comes out in Sep followed closely thereafter by no DOJ indictments with only explanations of “we’ve found many departmental policy failures that need to be addressed” then we know at that point,…….

    It is US who have been sold out and snookered IMO.

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    • lolli says:

      Bogey,
      I agree mostly with your post.

      I do want to add a few thoughts to consider.

      PT has a list to choose from. McConnell has made sure PT understands an outsider will not be confirmed. PT showed us very clearly recently that he does not get to pick (remember the recent DNI mess)
      Imo, PT did that to show us they will block anyone not approved by Powers that be.

      Bondo Barr was probably the best choice PT had. Now PT is exposing as much as possible to pressure Barr to act. The more exposed, the more Barr has to acknowledge.

      Barr, being an egotistical “lawman” does not want to be exposed as the corrupt cleaner he is. Barr will do a few things to keep us calm.

      So, I doubt PT will come out and trash Barr. PT can’t do that. It would be weak and after Sessions it would actually reflect poorly on PT globally, even though we know PT has had no choices.

      I do think we need to get loud and expose as much as possible. But waiting on the corrupt govt to fix itself, not feasible.

      That’s why PT is just doing as much as he can while the coup continues.

      Saying that Barr will release at the appropriate time for political benefit is absurd. It is only benefitting the criminals.

      Us deplorables are who PT has, he turned the country back over to us. But we sit and wait on the govt to
      meet our requests. Ha.

      FiB has decided we are the threat.
      The Uniparty is working on nullifying the 1A and 2A
      This is our last chance.

      This is just my opinion. But in the last few weeks makes more and more sense to me.

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      • huecowacko says:

        “Us deplorables are who PT has, he turned the country back over to us. But we sit and wait on the govt to
        meet our requests. Ha”

        Oh, the irony; otherwise, A++.

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  41. ozymandiasssss says:

    Well, here’s the thing. Either there is a plan and a strategy…to release this stuff at the right time…and it is too early right now…or …there’s not-and the intent is to make sure none of this gets out any time soon and affects the next election. There is nothing I can do about that. But I can tell you this. If it is the latter, and not the former, then I am tuning out -heart and soul-for a lot of reasons. So yeah, I guess I am in the unenviable position of trusting that there is a plan, as ridiculous as that sounds.

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  42. 8675310 says:

    Why is anyone surprised? Wray was in with Mueller, Comey, and Weizmann on the ENRON and Arthur Anderson Company prosecutions. Nearly all convictions were later overturned because of proprietorial misconduct. He’s not “drinking the kool-aid”. He helped “make” the kool-aid.

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  43. Sherri Young says:

    The main purpose of giving AG Barr declas authority was not for transparency so much as it was for relieving some of the burden of prosecuting complex cases that involve classified data. It would take months and months to form grand juries and petit juries and get security clearances for them. This tweet thread explains the reasoning.

    That does not relieve the FBI of their court-ordered burden of turning over data to Judicial Watch in a more expeditious manner.

    I see the Judicial Watch lawsuit and Barr’s declas authority as mostly separate issues.

    In the video linked in my earlier comment, John Solomon states that the upcoming IG report would have been released already but the Kavalec memo from the October 11, 2016 meeting with Steele and Duran was uncovered this May. The Kavalec memo and the persons involved needed to be part of the IG’s investigation and report. John Solomon dropped a strong hint that sounded to me as if a high level resister within the FBI is the current Deputy Director, David Bowdich.

    Bowdich came to FBI HQ from the SAC position in the Los Angeles field office. He was in charge of the LA field office at the time of the San Bernardino shooting. Bowdich has worked on SWAT teams and used to be a sniper. Just context.

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  44. Bogeyfree says:

    Mr. President,

    On Sept 18, 2018 you ordered for the immediate declassification of three series of documents related to the Russia investigation and the spying on his presidential campaign.

    In addition to the declassification of the documents, you also directed the Department of Justice and the FBI to publicly release all text messages relating to the Russia investigation of former FBI Director James Comey, former Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe, the lead FBI agent on the Russia investigation Peter Strzok, FBI lawyer Lisa Page, and Ohr. The released texts are to be fully unredacted.

    We now see that YOUR FBI is apparently refusing the release of the Page and Strzok emails until after the election.

    My question to you is……….

    Why is the FBI over-ruling your orders?

    It’s been 12 months since you put out this IMMEDIATE Declassification order. Your supporters have been waiting patiently for 3 years for justice to occur on coup to frame and take down a sitting President.

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  45. There was sort of a relief rally when Barr showed up that, in its exuberance, overshot the fundamentals. Barr accomplished a big thing getting Mueller off Trump’s back. That was the quid. The quo imo was that Barr would have the system clean-up portfolio largely to himself. Trump would not interfere. The Bush dynasty cannot be protected without affording a lot of protection to the Clinton dynasty. Two sides of the same coin. Barr is from the Bush side of the swamp. Far from a firebrand reformer, he is OF the system. Thus his clean-up will be judicious and measured. He’s not going to burn down anything and he’s certainly not going to pursue lines of inquiry that pose an existential threat to the system itself.

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  46. mark says:

    I just read the first page of comments (on my phone) and would put this up for discussion. Assume you are Durham, who would you indict 1st and what would be the consequences from that 1st indictment?

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  47. Everett Miller says:

    Regarding influencing an election; NOT releasing pertinent information is also influencing an election, just as releasing it might.
    Regarding Barr; he is no better than Sessions absent Indictments, public Trials, Convictions, and Sentences served.
    BTW, DiGenova should be AG, not Barr, and Tom Fitton should be Head of the FBI.

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  48. decisiontime16 says:

    The FBI doesn’t want the Walmart shoppers to know how stinky Peter Strzok is.

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  49. Carly says:

    We need a leaker for our team. I mean, leakers are not prosecuted, so the risk should be nill, right?

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  50. Sherri Young says:

    Leaving this thread here and in the daily presidential comments.

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