Lawsuit Claims Julian Assange Confirmed DNC Emails Received From Seth Rich – Not a Russian Hack…

A rather stunning report from Gateway Pundit outlines information contained within a lawsuit filing.  The lawsuit, filed by Businessman Ed Butowsky, alleges Wikileaks founder Julian Assange confirmed to Fox News analyst Ellen Ratner that the DNC leaked emails were received from Seth Rich and his brother Aaron.

The details contained within the lawsuit filing (full pdf below) are stunning.

If this information is true and accurate, the DOJ claim of a Russian hack –based on assertions by DNC contractor, Crowdstrike– would be entirely false.  Additionally the DC murder of Seth Rich would hold a far more alarming motive.

(Source, lawsuit filing – pdf link, page 13)

Here’s the Full Court Filing:


The ramifications here are almost too large to describe.

If this information turns out to be true and accurate, the entire narrative around the DNC “hack” will have been proven to be intentionally manufactured.

Despite the FBI’s prior admissions about never reviewing the DNC servers; and despite their recent admissions about never actually seeing the forensic computer analysis, the U.S. Department of Justice, specifically Robert Mueller, Andrew Weissmann and former DAG Rod Rosenstein, cannot blame a simple investigative ‘mistake‘ for the wrong attribution of who gave the DNC emails to Wikileaks.

The FBI, the DOJ and the Mueller special counsel have each purposefully claimed specific Russian actors were responsible for hacking the DNC in 2016.  If it turns out those claims were based on falsehood, the integrity of the DOJ and Special Counsel collapses.

Mr. Butowsky is making a very serious allegation in this court filing.

Additionally, the previously discussed motive to arrest Julian Assange would now be further enhanced.  Heck, the reason for Assange’ arrest would be brutally obvious.

♦Dana Boente was head of DOJ-NSD from May 11th, 2017 through end of October 2017 when he officially announced his intent to retire. However, the timeline gets cloudy here because Boente said he was staying on until an official replacement was announced. There’s no indication of when Boente actually left the DOJ-NSD or the Eastern District of Virginia (EDVA) role.

On January 23rd, 2018, FBI Director Christopher Wray announced Dana Boente had shifted over to the FBI to be Chief Legal Counsel (replacing James Baker) where Boente remains today. As Mueller was using 19 lawyers, and 50 FBI investigators, Boente was/is the legal counsel to FBI Director Christopher Wray while the Mueller probe was ongoing.

[Remember, Robert Mueller never interviewed Julian Assange.  Additionally, it is worth noting for the U.S. side of the legal framework, the charges against Assange are not related to Russian efforts in a hack of the DNC; nor is Assange charged with anything related to the 2016 U.S. election interference activities, the Podesta email release or anything therein as previously described by the DOJ.]

The April 11th, 2019, Julian Assange indictment stemmed from the Eastern District of Virginia.  From a review of the indictment we discover it was under seal since March 6th, 2018: (The DOJ sat on the indictment for 13 months, until Mueller finished)

(Link to pdf)

However, on Tuesday April 15th, 2019, more investigative material was released. Again, note the dates: Grand Jury, *December of 2017* This means FBI investigation prior to December ’17..

The investigation of Assange took place prior to December 2017, it is coming from the EDVA where Dana Boente was still, presumably, U.S. Attorney. The grand jury indictment was sealed from March of 2018 until April of 2019.

Why was there a delay?

Why did the DOJ wait until the Mueller report was complete?

Here’s where it gets interesting….

The FBI submission to the Grand Jury in December of 2017 was four months after congressman Dana Rohrabacher talked to Assange in August of 2017: “Assange told a U.S. congressman … he can prove the leaked Democratic Party documents … did not come from Russia.”

(August 2017, The Hill Via John Solomon) Julian Assange told a U.S. congressman on Tuesday he can prove the leaked Democratic Party documents he published during last year’s election did not come from Russia and promised additional helpful information about the leaks in the near future.

Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, a California Republican who is friendly to Russia and chairs an important House subcommittee on Eurasia policy, became the first American congressman to meet with Assange during a three-hour private gathering at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London, where the WikiLeaks founder has been holed up for years.

Rohrabacher recounted his conversation with Assange to The Hill.

“Our three-hour meeting covered a wide array of issues, including the WikiLeaks exposure of the DNC [Democratic National Committee] emails during last year’s presidential election,” Rohrabacher said, “Julian emphatically stated that the Russians were not involved in the hacking or disclosure of those emails.”

Pressed for more detail on the source of the documents, Rohrabacher said he had information to share privately with President Trump. (read more)

If you overlay the timing, it would appear the FBI took a keen interest in Assange after this August 2017 meeting and gathered specific evidence for a grand jury by December 2017. Then the DOJ sat on the indictment (sealed in March 2018) while the Mueller probe was ongoing; until April 11th, 2019, when a coordinated effort between the U.K. and U.S. was launched. Assange was arrested, and the indictment was unsealed (link).

To me, as a person who has researched this three year fiasco; including the ridiculously false 2016 Russian hacking/interference narrative: “17 intelligence agencies”, JAR report (needed for Obama – December 29th, ’16), and political ICA (January ’17); this looked like a Deep State move to control Julian Assange because the Mueller report was dependent on Russia cybercrimes…. AND that narrative is contingent on the Russia DNC hack story.

The Weissmann/Mueller/Rosenstein report contains claims that Russia hacked the DNC servers as the central element to the Russia interference narrative in the U.S. election. This claim is directly disputed by WikiLeaks and Assange, as outlined during the Dana Rohrabacher interview.

Right there is the FBI motive to shut Assange down when the Mueller report was released.

The DNC hack claim is contingent upon analysis by Crowdstrike computer forensics who were paid by the DNC to look into the issue. The FBI was never allowed to review the servers independently, and now we know the FBI never even looked at a full forensics report from Crowdstrike.

Almost all independent research into this DNC hack narrative challenges the claims of a Russia hack of the DNC servers; and now this bombshell court filing, again if accurate, makes the DOJ claim completely collapse.

Lastly, if we are to believe everything that is factually visible; including the admissions by the FBI and DOJ itself; and it is proven that Seth Rich was indeed the source of the DNC emails and there was no hack; well,… what does that say about Robert Mueller and Rod Rosenstein, who would have had to know they were pushing abject lies in their dubious Russian indictments.

The ramifications of this court filing are huge.


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1,016 Responses to Lawsuit Claims Julian Assange Confirmed DNC Emails Received From Seth Rich – Not a Russian Hack…

  1. Attorney says:

    Treehouse is amazing.


  2. TwoLaine says:

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    I believe that ALL of this is tied together.

    Now sit back and think of all the ties-ins here.

    Liked by 1 person

    • TwoLaine says:

      Obstruction of Justice
      How the Deep State Risked National Security to Protect The Democrats
      by Luke Rosiak
      Foreword by Newt Gingrich *** READ IT!
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    • TwoLaine says:

      More on the video:

      Just who is Jackson Cosko, the mastermind behind what prosecutors have called ‘the largest data breach in Senate history?

      What are the implications of the Imran Awan scandal and the extraordinary cover-up that followed?

      And how do these scandals relate to the recent arrest of billionaire Jeffrey Epstein?

      This is American Thought Leaders, and I’m Jan Jekielek.

      Today we sit down with Luke Rosiak, an investigative reporter with a penchant for uncovering congressional scandals, and author of the book Obstruction of Justice: How the Deep State Risked National Security to Protect the Democrats.

      We explore the scandals Luke has been exposing: that of Jackson Cosko, who gained notoriety by doxxing Republican Senators during the Kavanaugh hearings, the near-unbelievable Imran Awan scandal where 44 house democrats’ servers were deeply compromised (and how this was then covered up), and the parallels between these and the currently evolving case of Jeffrey Epstein.


    • Aeyrie says:

      I saw that one too and agree. Great interview!

      Liked by 1 person

    • TwoLaine says:

      Who has the data now and how are they still using it???????

      Think about this too. Last week, the first of the week began with Jeffrey Epstein having been arrested. Then it is Alex Acosta’s fault and he is pushed out (some say by Mick Mulvaney?). It ends with Antifa trying to blow up an ICE Detention Center, which we hear nothing about or the headline in “Man shot”. This week, it’s TRUMP is a racist because he told the racist anti-American haters to take a walk, and he’s illegitimate because Russia.

      These people live in a twilight zone, but they are in it together and will bury the rest of us if they have to.

      They have NO BA11S, except when it comes to their paycheck, payoffs, and perks. They will and do create any fantasy universe they wish, and Hollywood and the media will help them fulfill their wildest wet dreams.

      Must be nice to be Muffy, Fluffy and Buffy directing your own movie all the time. 🙂


    • nats1mom says:

      OMG! Thank you for posting this. Yes, I definitely understand how “…ALL of this is tied together.” I plan to purchase Luke’s book.

      Liked by 1 person

  3. Lester Smith says:

    All I know is Senator Warner is an evil S. O. B.. His ahole rinos friends on the gang of eight must know what he has been up to. He has How many others have and are assisted him. If Warner and the other players know the real reason Seth Rich was assinated. He and They will be in a political and legal nightmare and good to be chance of jail time.

    This will never happen the swamp takes care of their own. The truth will never truly come out. On a scale of past dirty deeds this is more than likely a blip on the radar.

    The old KGB is alive and well only its our IC and so called justice department. The founding fathers new this could happen and that it would destroy our freedoms and kill the republic.

    Beware the dems or should I say socialists are strong arming us to be part of the globalist one world government. Trump and his followers are all that is in their way. He, we and free speach are their mortal enemies and must be eliminated.

    Msm are the propaganda arm and antifa and the other liberal backed thugs are the strong arms. This group and others are their brown shirts.
    Beatings and fear will silence liberty and give birth to a fully globalist state. Man this is happening fast. What the hell and they say were the crazies.


  4. wee2low says:

    What’s funny (not really) is that everyone “knew” this years ago. Sure we couldn’t prove it but everyone knew. The elites just keep laughing. At this point I don’t know why they even try to fool us.

    Liked by 8 people

  5. Rick says:

    Give Julian Assange immunity and Ed Butowski will have his corroborating evidence. And Bob Barr will crack this Russian Collusion case WIDE OPEN. Bring in Bill Binny and his group for icing on the cake.

    Hat tip to Sundance for delivering devastating blows over target.

    Liked by 10 people

    • Smack says:

      You mistakenly assume that anyone, anyone in the Department of inJustice or the FBI actually want the truth to come out.

      We have the thin veneer of of a functional government…just enough lip-service to governmental ideals to keep the plebes satisfied. In reality, our government has become predatory, abusing the social contract to extract from the “citizen”s what it wants when it wants it.

      Liked by 5 people

      • Pokey says:

        Totally agree. JA needs armed security around him 24/7. He also needs to lawyer up and get his story into a courtroom. If he doesn’t, he is a liar. If he does, our Government will be due for a complete overhaul. The key is protecting his life, and PDJT can do that. If PDJT reads this and truly wants to make America great again, he should act quickly to get to the truth of this story! I want my country back and I am too old for all the crap that I have seen since Hillary and Bill Clinton appeared on the scene.

        Liked by 4 people

    • Hurry up and give Assange immunity before they psychotropically turn his brain to mush like they did with Jose Padillo. Evil system.

      Liked by 2 people

  6. Rick said: “And Bob Barr will crack this Russian Collusion case WIDE OPEN.”
    I don’t know if I’m confident enough to put money on it.

    Liked by 5 people

  7. Cocoon says:

    Wasn’t it known the info stolen was on a thumb drive due to download speeds?
    This fact alone, if true, should negate Mueller Report.

    Liked by 5 people

    • Technically, we can’t prove that the data was not copied to a thumb drive “by the Russians.” However, Occam’s Razor definitely kicks in here. The entire story of this “server,” storing highly privileged material almost as though it were a “honeypot,” falls apart under sensible questions posed by anyone who knows much of anything at all about the technology, or the practices of the industry … especially(!!) when information of this nature is being handled. No, you can’t simply lean on ineptitude or incompetence in this case: it is simply not believable that this entire story is actually truth.

      “A server in Hillary Clinton’s bathroom?!” Did you hear what you just said? 😀

      Liked by 4 people

      • Hal_S says:

        Later “Forensicator” articles noticed that timestamps indicated that the file save dates would only come from FAT32, and the copy dates match Eastern daylight time

        That forces the conclusion that the documents were on a thumb drive somewhere on the US East Coast.

        Liked by 3 people

        • The Akh says:

          Plus the timeline of the “Guiccifer 2.0” doesn’t make any sense. Guiccifer appears after Assange has already announced they have the emails. The Guiccifer 2.0 entity is likely to be completely fabricated.

          Liked by 2 people

          • Here’s what DOES make sense.
            1) Russian scammers WERE using the internet to access in the DNC/DCCC system to steal donor data and redirect donations.
            2) Someone was copying damaging DNC emails to a thumb drive.
            3) After 1&2 were discovered, Guccifer 2.0 appeared and seemed focused on the attribution for 1&2.

            1) The “Russian scammers” who did infiltrate the DNC computers sought out information about the DNC finance system, the donor list, AND registered “sound-alike” domains to the DNC’s online donation page, AND hacked the DNC/DCCC websites to redirect to their fake donation sites.
            Looking for SSN, and credit card data and spoofing donation sites indicate they were talented thieves, not spies.

            2) The WikiLeaks emails have metadata indicating they were copied by USB 2.0 onto a FAT32 formatted drive. They focus on damaging information about the DNC rigging the primary against Bernie Sanders.

            3) G2 never released any damaging information, only claimed attribution for previously released information. Example, G2’s first offer of proof about hacking was to post “stolen” DNC files which were basically ~”100 Reasons why Trump sucks and you should vote for Hilary”.
            That’s NOT the route that an actual anti-Clinton hacker would take.

            Logically, of the frontrunners; Clinton, Sanders, and Trump; Russia would prefer President Sanders, the socialist candidate. I think it’s MORE likely that assuming the Russian Govt. did have a “favorite”: it was Bernie. The purpose of the DNC leaks would be to HURT Clinton in the primary and HELP Sanders so that Sanders would be the Democratic nominee. Then the Russians would turn to try to HURT Trump and HELP Sanders.


            • MelH says:

              The above link needs more scrutiny. Frst of all, the DNC server was NOT “hacked” and the verbiage mimics what Brennan said about the hacking, which is pure conjecture. STILL no proof that Hillary’s letters got to WikiLeaks by Russian hacking of the DNC servers. It’s surprising such a poorly written piece is on a site concerned with cybersecurity. “Hacking” is not what happened, until there is PROOF!


      • dawg says:

        Your inability to understand the difference between Hillary Clinton’s private server and the DNCs computer network/server is perplexing.

        Liked by 3 people

      • Justin Green says:

        Two different events. Two separate main issues.

        1) The DNC leak, which was supposedly “hacked” by Muh Rushans, and

        2) Hillary Clinton’s server – unprotected and not sanctioned by the government, on which were found significant amounts of classified information and her issue of 33,000 missing yoga/wedding emails.

        It’s possible (I think probable) that Muh Rushans never hacked the DNC and that Seth Rich leaked that information.

        The main issue with Hillary’s server, unfortunately, is not whether or not it was ever hacked, but that she had it in the first place.

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      • JL says:

        Depends on what you mean by the “Russians”. Was it copied by an actual Russian? Or maybe someone independent but aligned? Or maybe a patsy that was duped into it by Russian agents. Or perhaps, it was someone working on behalf of Russia all along.

        I happen to think that the only piece of intel generated by Steele that he got right, is the piece that was buried by IC. It’s the piece that he told Kavalec at the State Dept about and she included in her notes, and happens to be the piece that was withheld from congress and the IG.

        That piece of intel, is that the Russians had a “mole” inside the DNC.

        I’ll give you one guess as to who that “mole” could have been.


        • spaceranger says:

          I think that’s true and it gets overlooked a lot. A lot of hacking coming from Russia is basically criminal gang-type activity out sniffing for ID’s, credit card numbers, and whatever they can sell on the dark web. If they happen on something, they just sell it to their government. Our people probably do the same. The Eastern Europe, Russian, or Chinese origin of hacks probably has more to do with all of the unregistered bootleg copies of Windows in those countries allowing hackers to build a bot-net more easily.

          Liked by 1 person

      • Roger says:

        The stolen/downloaded DNC emails were NOT on Hillary’s bathroom closet server. That was her e-mail server. The DNC server was elsewhere–probably at a data center or a DNC main office.


  8. dbobway says:

    Justice will come to some, but fail where it matters.
    Barrack Obama and Hillary will walk.
    I don’t think they were the play by play perps in this traitorous endeavor.
    But those 2 put their stamp of approval on it.

    Liked by 1 person

    • underwhelmingposter says:

      Just like Nixon in Watergate! He did not know but participated in the effort to cover it up. Then he got hung for it. No such thing for the Dems wunderkinds!!!


  9. mike diamond says:

    The FBI,never investigated the death of Seth Rich! Now we know why!

    Liked by 4 people

  10. I am very, very confident that “the DNC Server” never existed.

    I have been party to many computer-forensics investigations over the years and I have never encountered one like this. And here it is entirely obvious that “law enforcement” (sic) was fully involved in it.

    Just like “the Mueller Report” bears no resemblance at all to an actual Special Counsel document, this “computer hack” story bears no resemblance at all to an actual event of its kind.

    Liked by 5 people

    • Elle says:

      Very interesting! I reread and noticed that the wording refers to Seth and Aaron “releasing the DNC emails” but avoids using the word “hacked” in that sentence.

      Also in the indictment above, where in 2010 Assange is asking Manning for help because he was unable to crack the password… occurs to me that no matter how good you are, you can’t crack a password to a computer that doesn’t exist.

      Any chance these are indications that they were/are fully aware there was no DNC server to be haced but are weasel words to hide that fact? I don’t know, but certainly an interesting thought.


      • underwhelmingposter says:

        Where did the e-mails come from if nothing was hacked, or there was no DNC server? Can the knowledgeable people explain to us plebes how they know there was no hacking and there was no server? I am confused!


        • JL says:

          Someone on the inside at the DNC simply copied the files onto a thumb drive and gave the to Wikileaks and/or Russia.

          This would fit nicely with what Steele told Kavalec and she included in her notes. The fact that Russia had a mole in the DNC.


    • Justin Green says:

      Given that above you seem to conflate Hillary’s server with the DNC server, you probably should specify which server you’re actually talking about and provide additional detail.


    • underwhelmingposter says:



    • Mike- that is one of the most “creative” theories I’ve heard yet. At this point, I can believe anything.


  11. wtd says:

    1) “On December 17, 2016, at the instigation of Ms. Rattner, Mr. Butowsky finally contacted Joel and Mary Rich, the parents of Seth, and he relayed the information about Ms. Rattner’s meeting with Mr. Assange…”
    2) ”During that conversation, Mr. Rich told Mr. Butowsky that he already knew that his sons were involved in the DNC email leak, but he and his wife just wanted to know who murdered Seth…”
    3) “Mr. Rich said he was reluctant to go public with Seth’s and Aaron’s role in leaking the emails because ‘we don’t want anyone to think our sons were responsible for getting Trump elected.’”
    4) I pray Mr. Rich was lying about this, and the real reason was he feared for the rest of his family’s lives.
    If not, “we don’t want anyone to think our sons were responsible for getting Trump elected” is an absolutely abhorrent thing for a parent of a murdered child to say.
    5) I don’t care what your political beliefs are. If your son is murdered in cold blood, that goes out the window. You should do everything you can to help catch their killer. That starts by shedding light on the situation, which leads to motives & suspects.
    This makes me sick.

    Liked by 2 people

    • Louisiana Tea Rose says:

      Wtd, I hear you. If these events are true, another disturbing truth is revealed: Liberals value their political ideology above all else….God, family, country. It explains why the end justifies whatever means are necessary to achieve that end.


      Liked by 1 person

    • jebg46 says:

      I had the same reaction! It is beyond comprehension that his parents were complicit in perpetuating a fraud on the American citizens to save their own reputation. Perhaps Aaron’s life was also threatened and they had to agree to this to save his life.

      Liked by 1 person

    • underwhelmingposter says:

      Out of curiosity, why did Seth Rich’s parents sue Fox News for malignantly spreading conspiracy theories? Who reached them and enabled the lawsuit to go forward? Who funded it? It was thrown out since there were no provable damages to them. The DC Metro police also seemed very convinced that the kool-aid they were drinking was the right stuff. A botched robbery. Two shots in the back! Nothing taken! Street thugs would not let the gun shots stop them from getting the goods of a robbery. IMO, this was NOT a robbery. Same issue as with Vince Foster! Ties to the Clintons.

      Liked by 1 person

      • Roger says:

        Look into the stories about what happened at the hospital where they took Seth Rich after he was shot—and was still alive! Lots of secrecy on that…why?


  12. loteal2014 says:

    Notice how most the times Rattner is listed in document, spelled this way, her name is Ratner.


  13. “the integrity of the DOJ and Special Counsel collapses”……….Integrity? Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

    Liked by 3 people

    • underwhelmingposter says:

      If this case gains any traction before next weeks hearing with Mueller, it certainly will make things more interesting!


  14. Christopher Johns says:

    Sundance, there’s another layer to this onion. On July 9, 2019, Michael Isikoff (yes, that Michael Isikoff, Steele dossier mongering, deep state stooge Michael Isikoff) came out with a story that the Seth Rich “conspiracy theory” was a Russian intelligence operation:

    “Russia’s foreign intelligence service, known as the SVR, first circulated a phony “bulletin” — disguised to read as a real intelligence report —about the alleged murder of the former DNC staffer on July 13, 2016, according to the U.S. federal prosecutor who was in charge of the Rich case. That was just three days after Rich, 27, was killed in what police believed was a botched robbery while walking home to his group house in the Bloomingdale neighborhood of Washington, D.C., about 30 blocks north of the Capitol.”

    The story is sourced to Deborah Sines, who Isikoff maintains was “the former assistant U.S. attorney in charge of the Rich case until her retirement last year.”

    Isikoff’s involvement is like having a siren go off. Curious, very curious.

    Liked by 1 person

    • underwhelmingposter says:

      Like a pig telling you the slop is good, come and join me!


    • JL says:

      Remember Kavelec’s notes from her meeting with Christopher Steele?

      He told her that Russia had a “mole” inside the DNC. That’s the only piece of Steele intel that never saw the light of day, which makes me think that’s the only piece of intel that was actually true.


  15. 8675310 says:

    It is clear that the Deep State must make sure that Assange is dead. The U.K. government is doing it for them. Assange publicity “admitted” that Rich was the source more than a year ago. His response to a video alleging that Rich was the source? “Brilliant!”

    Liked by 1 person

    • underwhelmingposter says:

      If they get him extradited here, he will somehow contract measles, mumps, chicken pox, TB, diabetes, cancer, and krone’s disease, then will die in custody within days of arriving!


    • MelH says:

      The source for Assange admitting Seth was the source of Hillary’s e-mails?


      • Noah says:

        Seth Rich had nothing to do with Hillary’s emails. Seth Rich had to do with leaking DNC emails showing Clinton’s corruption there. Assange publicly spoke about Seth Rich, and though he was vague with his words, along with offering a reward for info related to his death, it was pretty clear Seth Rich was Assange’s source.

        The information in the lawsuit was largely covered by infowars accurately, like some other places, by talking to and reporting on the things the initial investigators were saying, before all these lawsuits and DNC lawyers tried to squash information getting out.


        • MelH says:

          You’re sure Hillary’s mail to and from the DNC wasn’t what was leaked to Wikileaks? Of course there were more e-mails on her own server, but the ones from the DNC (Seth Rich’s trove) were part of the HRC whole. We haven’t had the rest to read.


  16. trnathens says:

    I have an alternative take:

    Assange was arrested to protect him from the Deep State; to ensure he could not be silenced because he’s in state custody now, not house arrest.

    In the embassy, he could be gotten to. In state custody, the only way he dies is by direct involvement of the state, and the British government won’t do that now that they know Trump has them by the short and curlies.

    Assange can now be interviewed and either testify or attest to the Seth Rich claims.

    Remember, the military, under Trump’s leadership controls the NSA database now. You really think they don’t know exactly what is going on and by whom?

    A bag of sand?! Come on, man! (Name the movie?)


  17. boomerbeth says:

    Russia Troll Farm ruse is also falling apart

    Russiagate is going up in smoke. The claim that Russian military intelligence fed thousands of emails to WikiLeaks doesn’t stand up to scrutiny.
    Mueller is not only unable to a prove a connection between the Internet Research Agency (IRA) and the Kremlin but is barred from even discussing a major chunk of “his” report , according to Friedrich’s ruling, without risking a charge of contempt.

    After 22 months of investigating the ins and outs of Russian interference, Mueller seems to have finally come up dry.

    What will he discuss before the House intelligence and judiciary committees next week?

    If his team goes forward with the Concord prosecution, he’ll risk having to turn over sensitive information while involving himself in a legal tangle that could go on for years, all without any conceivable payoff. If he drops it, the upshot will be a public-relations disaster of the first order.

    The IRA’s social-media campaign was both more modest and more ineffectual then the Mueller report’s over-the-top language about a “sweeping and systematic” conspiracy.

    Facebook Vice President Rob Goldman tweeted that “the majority of the Russian ad spend happened AFTER the election.”

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  18. TANGO268 says:

    This morning CNN International had a thinly sourced, short on facts story today about Assange’s visitors, including…dum dum dum…a RUSSIAN! This fits the pattern of the FBI leaking their counternarrative to CNN.

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  19. James says:

    This seemed pretty obvious in how horribly Julian Assange covered up who delivered the emails in this interview. It is totally obvious that he’s saying that Seth did it if you ask me.

    Liked by 1 person

  20. Pegon Zellschmidt says:

    “and his brother Aaron” may explain the Rich parents pleading with Hannity to let it be. One murdered son is enough.

    Liked by 1 person

    • underwhelmingposter says:

      I would agree. Once Hannity has his teeth on the dogs neck, he does NOT let go.

      But it is a stretch to think that the perpetrators would not be able to get to his brother any time they wanted, Hannity or no Hannity.

      Perhaps Seth was the original leaker?


  21. Can anyone name A SINGLE alleged Russian who supposedly “colluded” with Trump that WAS NOT paid by Clinton/DNC and/or FusionDNC and/or FBI/DOJ/CIA and/or the State Department?

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  22. If these allegations are true a Fox News reporter and at least 2 fox news executives knew Assange stated Seth rich downloaded dnc info and not Russian hackers and yet despite this knowledge Fox News reported Mueller version unchallenged for 3 years without mentioning the possibility that Seth Rich and his brother downloaded this info and leaked it to Assange. Is Fox better named Fix?

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    • underwhelmingposter says:

      As stated earlier, Seth Rich’s parents sued Fox News and Hannity. They succeeded if forcing the story off the air. As I wondered before, who put them up to the lawsuit, and who provided the funds. DC Attorneys probably bill $3000/hr or better. Attorneys bill just for thinking about a case, and it may not even be THE case, but they will bill anyways.
      Probably was a low to mid-6 figure legal expense!


  23. Sunshine says:

    Seth Rich deserves justice for his soul to rest in peace.

    Me, and many others, have been saying the best thing to happen to Assange would be extradition to the USA. However, I have this bad feeling he might be killed while in British custody, something slow and pernicious, a malady of sorts.

    Only Assange can resolve, once and for all, this calamitous mystery.

    He’ll need a new ID and a facial makeover.


  24. boomerbeth says:

    The Mueller Report is a deception intended to keep the myth of collusion in the air while dismissing that any collusion took place.

    JUNE 9, 2016 Trump Tower Meeting:

    The Mule-LIAR “Report” lies about the issue the meeting addressed.

    It was NOT to provide dirt on Hillary Clinton.

    The Russian lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, got the meeting for her to lobby a potentially incoming administration against the Magnitsky Act, which is why she was in the United States in the first place.

    Natalia Veselnitskaya, told Trump Jr., Kushner and Manafort that William Browder’s Magnitsky Act was a smokescreen to block the Russians from going after him for multi-millions in tax evasion. She argued the Magnitsky Act was built on this fraud. Manafort’s notes, included in the Mueller Report, trace what she said.

    The Magnitsky Act is a 2012 U.S. law that was promoted by William Browder, an American-born British citizen and hedge fund investor, who claimed his “lawyer” Sergei Magnitsky had been imprisoned and murdered because he uncovered a scheme by Russian officials to steal $230 million from the Russian Treasury. It sanctioned Russians he said were involved or benefitted from Magnitsky’s death.

    It has since been used by the U.S. to put sanctions on other Russians and nationals from other countries.

    Veselnitskaya testified to the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee in November 2017 that Browder’s major American client, the Ziff brothers, had cheated on American and Russian taxes and contributed the “dirty money” to the Democrats. The Mule-LIAR Report says “at the meeting the Russian attorney claimed that funds derived from illegal activities in Russia were provided to Hillary Clinton and other Democrats.”

    The Mueller investigators appear not to have looked into her charges. The report promotes Browder’s fabrications, citing “the Magnitsky Act, which imposed financial sanctions and travel restrictions on Russian officials and which was named for a Russian tax specialist who exposed a fraud and later died in a Russian prison.”

    But instead of his “lawyer” Magnitsky exposing Russian fraud, for which he was jailed and killed in prison, Magnitsky was actually Browder’s accountant who was detained under investigation for his part in Browder’s tax evasion and died of natural causes in prison, as Magnitsky’s own mother admits to filmmaker Andrei Nekrasov in the film “The Magnitsky Act: Behind the Scenes.”

    The Mule-Liar investigation’s focus was not on Browder’s fakery — the substance of the Trump Tower meeting — but on the communications organizing the event.

    The “obstruction: Trump became aware of “emails setting up the June 9, 2016 meeting between senior campaign officials and Russians who offered derogatory information on Hillary Clinton as ‘part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.’ ”

    The Mule-Liars know fraud when they see it and divert the TRUTH.


  25. Lady Sid says:

    Perhaps we are barking up the wrong tree. I’d never heard mention of Aaron Rich, Seth’s brother, apparently still living, until reading this story here today. Maybe it was a case of mistaken identity (the shooting murder of Seth), maybe it was Aaron who was the target. His IT work at important Dept of Defense contractor Northrup Grumman may have led him to desire $$ for information that foreign entities would pay for. That this may not have had a thing to do with “Russians” is what is causing heartburn amongst the deep state players we’ve been fussing with the past several years.


    • Roger says:

      Seth Rich’s motive for leaking the DNC emails was he was enraged when he learned his preferred candidate, Bernie Sanders, had the nomination swept away from him by Donna Brazille and Hillary.

      Doubt that brother Aaron was a target.


  26. The defamation law suit (50 pages) is very interesting – Mueller, McCabe, Weissmann, Aaron Seth have a lot to answer for.


  27. Sir Napsalot says:

    I look at this from both sides – Who (Julian Assange or the DoJ/FBI/etc.) has the more incentive to lie?

    Why would Assange lie about his source, what is the upside?

    Why would DoJ/FBI/etc. lie and muddy the water, what is their upside?


  28. shipley130 says:

    It’s weird how this Seth Rich story has made headlines again and now there is that Piglosi vote in congress to “condemn” President Trump.


  29. Assange has been questioned about Rich on several occasions, and he has answered in a way that indicates he was not directly in contact with Rich. He’s very nearly said that Rich is absolutely NOT his source. Be very, very wary of running with this. Assange doesn’t like to disclose sources and wouldn’t have been blabbing to anyone that it was Rich if it were. And if he was going to reveal a source, he’d broadcast it, not whisper it a few people’s ears. Look at his history.

    Assange was arrested to cover for the Muller report, but not over Rich. This lawsuit is very far off the mark. Go back and read Assange’s twitter feed. He covers this and almost directly states Rich was not his source.

    This court filing is highly unprofessional. It’s littered with phases that tell me it was not written by an attorney. It reads more like a blog rant than a court filing. I know Cernovich and ThePirateBay have filed several famously snarky court papers, but I would also point out they’ve had a rough time in the court system(and I believe the style of writing is partially responsible).


  30. Gil Stonebarger says:

    and STILL we wait for the proof…… day after day, month after month.


  31. farrier105 says:

    July is Seth Rich Month Since 2017

    Every July Mainstream Media has graced us with new “Seth Rich Revelations” since 2017. In July 2017 it was the original Ed Butkowsky story and his (illegal) taping of a telephone call with Seymour Hersh. This followed Butkowsky’s conversation with Ellen Ratner, and her claims about a long conversation with Julian Assange about Assange wanting the Rich family to know that their sons, Seth and Aaron stole the emails and sold them to Wikileaks for $40,000, which was under $2.00 per email/attachment according to what was in the July 22, 2016 publication of the only emails we know that Seth Rich could have downloaded, the May 23 and May 25, 2016 tranches. Two freaking dollars and email. We know what happened to this story. It crashed and burned.

    Well, along comes July 2018 and exploding very briefly into the the latest July Seth Rich Revelation is Matt Couch and (Never Trumper) JACK BURKMAN with the inside source into the assassination of Seth Rich whose code name was “LUKE.” Gateway Pundit, which led the way in revealing THIS July’s “bombshell” Seth Rich story, hosted the press conference during which “Luke” revealed that ROD ROSENSTEIN ordered the hit on Seth Rich. Apparently, that story has died as we have heard nothing else about it. Helping to bury it was a controversy about when Donna Brazile showed up at the hospital at which Seth Rich died. That controversy has not been resolved as everyone has followed new rabbit trails, including the one discussed on this thread, the latest Seth Rich Bombshell, the latest contribution of Ed Butowsky, his latest defamation lawsuit pleading. In keeping with tradition, this story really started earlier in 2019, but it got pushed big time in July 2019. Seth Rich stories are saved for July for the third year in a row.

    While the really interesting revelation in the Butkowsky legal filing, the allegation that Seymour Hersh told the hapless mark exploited by this con that Andrew McCabe originated the Seth Rich story, which is the first thing about it that made any sense at all, has been glossed over by most of the breathless Internet video reports (“Bombshell”), the fact that the MSM got into the mix with several stories attacking the Seth Rich theory makes this Seth Rich July Rabbit Hole really interesting.

    Michael Isikoff set it all off by blaming the Russians for concocting the Seth Rich story. I have to give the MSM credit for this July gambit. It tops all the others, and make no mistake about it, this is an all-Establishment operation, feeding both factions with exactly what they need to hear to milk another year out of this bizarre and preposterous piece of fiction, Trump-Russia-Wikileaks. It has another year of life, now, guaranteed, regardless of what Seth Rich did, or did not, do, as he is in the same position as Lee Harvey Oswald in what will likely be another decades long controversy that goes—NOWHERE.


  32. Dr Sterling Colgate says:

    Wikileaked Podesta email from the DNC preferred political strategy co, the Bensenson Strategy Group, included an affirmed (within a conversation thread with podesta) group of emails, one including a report entitled “Salvage Project” which outlined ~7 ways to save Hillary’s campaign. #1 was “Red Dawn” or create a Russians are coming narrative. Other options included creating civil unrest via BLM and the rise of “Antifa”.
    I believe the Salvage Project report to and along with some Podesta tweaks was the Genesis of the Russian Hoax. The report noted the “con” of option Red Dawn was to get people to actually believe we were being invaded by Russia. Well with all the power of Obama alphabet agencies and the Clinton Crime Machine, podesta had full control of the narrative. The DNC “Hack” was on purpose, and leaked to start the Red Dawn project. Seth Rich had this info and was killed for it by the Arkancide squad of Hillary Henchmen.


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