Leaked Transcripts from Lisa Page Provide Some Stunning Revelations…

In the last 24 hours The Epoch Times has become a conduit for leaked information from inside the joint House congressional committee (Oversight/Judiciary) that was investigating DOJ and FBI corruption. [Two Stories: See Here and See Here]

The joint House committee previously requested approval from the DOJ and FBI for transcripts of all witness testimony to be released.  In response, Deputy FBI Director David Bowditch, citing possible interference with the Mueller investigation, refused to release the transcripts.  However, it appears someone from within the committee, likely Mark Meadows, following a pattern previously exclusive to John Solomon (The Hill), is now leaking those witness transcripts to The Epoch Times.

The leaked transcripts are not being made available; however, articles are being written from those who are reviewing them.  The first is an article by Jeff Carlson about the testimony by former FBI lawyer Lisa Page.  It is a lengthy article and I would urge all who are interested in her testimony to read it: SEE HERE.  There is a wealth of new information that fills in many of the gaps from prior research.

One of the immediately interesting aspects of the Page testimony goes directly to the issue of why the witness transcripts are not being released, and the inherent risk to the small group inside the DOJ and FBI who were coordinating the Clinton and Trump probes.

Lisa Page outlines the people who were at the center of the “small group team” within the FBI (emphasis mine):

[…]  Although Page admitted to a personal dislike for Trump, she also admitted to a less-than-favorable view of Hillary Clinton, noting that while she did not like then-candidate Trump, she “wasn’t particularly fond or favorable toward Secretary Clinton. Page summed her position up thusly: “I mean, given a Trump-Clinton race, yes, I was supporting Clinton, but I was not a particularly big fan of hers.”

The role of FBI agent Jonathan Moffa, currently a deputy assistant director at the Federal Bureau of Investigation, may have been greater than previously understood. Page noted that most of the FBI personnel involved in the Clinton and Trump-Russia investigations were separate from each other—they worked on one investigation or the other.

Strzok and Moffa, both from the FBI’s Counterintelligence Division, worked on both investigations, as Page noted:

“Really it’s the people that met with Jim Comey. Those are the only people that were really the same with respect to both teams. So it’s the same general counsel, the same deputy general counsel, me, Mr. McCabe, Dave Bowdich. The EAD for National Security Branch changed, but that was just because of regular personnel turnover.  (read more)

Many of us were trying to figure out how David Bowditch rose to the level of Deputy FBI Director under Chris Wray.  [Bowditch was previously the FBI field office head for the San Bernardino terrorist attack investigation in California]  Now we see that Bowditch was at the center of the small group in Washington DC who were doing the Trump investigation.

This reconciles why the current FBI is blocking the release of the witness transcripts.  Do you remember who told congress a few weeks ago that any transcript releases may interfere with the Mueller investigation?…

(Source link)

Yes, that would be David Bowditch.   Obviously, Bowditch is following a very familiar pattern.  DOJ and FBI officials who are directly connected to the previous corruption have a vested self-interest in controlling the sunlight upon them.

Despite their claims, don’t be tricked into thinking it’s about timing, and/or a workload, and/or the holidays (per letter).  How do we know this?

Well, remember, the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) Chaired by Devin Nunes, made a similar request for release of their transcripts on September 26th, 2018.  The DOJ, FBI and Special Counsel have refused to comply for four months.  They intended to drag this out as a defense strategy to hide their own duplicity.   Hence, the likelihood Mark Meadows (or someone similar) is frustrated and has now started leaking transcripts to The Epoch Times.

Mueller’s investigation always held an ulterior purpose:

♦(1) Create an investigation – Just by creating the investigation it is then used as a shield by any corrupt FBI/DOJ official who would find himself/herself under downstream congressional investigation.  Former officials being deposed/questioned by IG Horowitz or Congress could then say they are unable to answer those questions due to the ongoing special counsel investigation.  In this way Mueller provides cover for ideologically aligned deep state officials.

♦(2)  Use the investigation to keep any and all inquiry focused away from the corrupt DOJ and FBI activity that took place in 2015, 2016, 2017.  Keep the media narrative looking somewhere, anywhere, other than directly at the epicenter of the issues. In this way, Mueller provides distraction and talking points against the Trump administration.

♦(3) Use the investigation to suck-up, absorb, any damaging investigative material that might surface as a result of tangentially related inquiry.  Example: control the exposure of evidence against classified leak participants like SSCI Director of Security, James Wolfe; and/or block IG Horowitz from seeing material related to the FISA abuse scandal and “spygate”.  In this way Mueller provides cover for the institutions and the administrative state.

In all of these objectives the Mueller special counsel has been stunningly effective.

There’s a hell of a lot more to be learned from the Lisa Page testimony, specifically about the role of the CIA in the overall operation…  However, for me personally, her outline of Bowditch in the main FBI DC office -as connected to the larger investigation- completes an annoyingly missing puzzle piece.

DAG Rod Rosenstein was hired by President Trump at the direction of, and request of, AG Jeff Sessions.   Rosenstein then recommended that President Trump hire FBI Director Chris Wray (a transparently useful idiot)….. Director Wray then hired David Bowditch as his deputy AND re-hired Dana Boente as FBI chief-legal-counsel.

The picture we get here is how the 2015/2016 officials within the corrupt DOJ and FBI enterprise, were put into higher office in the Trump administration 2017/2018; and those same officials are currently occupying positions that allow them to keep their prior corrupt activity hidden.

This whole thing is FUBAR.

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361 Responses to Leaked Transcripts from Lisa Page Provide Some Stunning Revelations…

  1. bulwarker says:

    So Trump-appointee Wray is responsible for Bowdich’s obstructionist position. And people wonder why many of us here are imploring the President NOT to make the same mistake by appointing Barr AG….

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  2. Logger says:

    Gotta love how DS pretends no one knows this stinks to high heaven. How can they walk the streets knowing that the people know their faces and despise their wicked hearts? They might get away with their crimes on this earth, but there will be no peace in their lives.

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  3. Ziiggii says:

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    • covfefe999 says:

      Is he confused? We only know of one FISA warrant, technically four because one was the original and three were renewals. But they were all targeting Trump through Carter Page. I thought we knew, or were told, there was no FISA warrant on Papadopoulos.

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      • covfefe999 says:

        Papadopoulos’ attorney Thomas Breen said this: ““We never received and have no reason to believe whatsoever there was a FISA warrant involving George Papadopoulos” https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/07/george-papadopoulos-jail-sentence-809381

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      • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

        No he is not confused though he MAY be wrong about a FISA on him.
        But it seems logical.

        There was the aforementioned article that had spoken of Crossfire FISA and Dragon FISA.
        The HPSCI Report (though redacted) mentioned 4 counterintelligence investigations.
        Comey’s confirmed the same thing in his December testimony: 4.

        Finally, it’s become crystal clear that obtaining a Title 1 FISA is about as easy as getting a SLURPEE from 7-11
        (In fact the SLURPEE may be more difficult if it’s a hot day)

        all it essentially took to get a FISA on Carter Page was his name being mentioned in the Steele Dossier.
        Manafort and Flynn were also both named

        PapaD had numerous vultures circling him
        The London FBI General Counsel steered him to The Professor Mifsud
        He was guided toward the Australian Grand High Poobah Downer
        Stephan Halper sweated all over him.
        And some exceedingly generous Israeli tried to stuff $10K cash in his suitcase as a “send off” before his trip home to the States.

        So I’d put the likelihood of a PapaD FISA at somewhere between
        “DEFINITELY” and
        “DUUUH”

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        • GB Bari says:

          LOL!
          Besides agreeing with you, I enjoyed reading it.

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        • That was hilarious, thank you. A Title 1 FISA warrant would give them the power to spy on Trump’s entire campaign team so George would automatically be thrown into the mix. No need to apply for an individual warrant when you have the best warrant lying can get you.

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          • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

            Agree
            However….
            Seems it would look suspicious if they opened counterintel investigations on 4 individuals and didn’t get 4 FISAs. In short, by saying “we’ll use the hops to get all 4” makes it more obvious that they were really surveilling the Trump organization not 4 individual “Russian spies. (Hope that makes sense)

            Additionally, multiple FISAs not only provides overlap but casts a wider overall surveillance net where no overlap exists.

            Finally each FISA has to be renewed. So if on the off chance 1 or more wasn’t renewed they’d still have the HOPS provided by the others. IOW Redundancy.

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    • REX says:

      PapaD is one of the few who now know the entire story, in my opinion. He’s also been tasked to reveal it. I believe him.

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  4. covfefe999 says:

    It’s hard to read that article because Page was clearly not being truthful to Congress. She makes herself out to be some sort of straight up “by the book” individual when we know for a fact she was not based on all of the text she and her luvvah traded. You do not talk about taking out a candidate and then having an “insurance policy” in case he wins if you are straight up.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      Because she’s a rat (apologies to rats) she doesn’t deserve to have only her glossy posed and photoshopped image at the top of the article.

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    • concerned3 says:

      The the statements made by Page to the Congressional committee can not be trusted. Why would Mueller have Page’s text messages deleted? Why did the current FBI block the release of the witness transcripts?

      What we are looking at is more likely the manufactured release of what appears to be a leak from the Mueller’s Team.

      Could this be a distraction, but from what?

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    • clairebee says:

      That article was about as clear as mud. Round and round. I got more sense of what was going on from the 2 lovers texts messages, and that was even without the 5 months of missing texts.

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  5. Ej says:

    The whole thing starts with #UselessJeff Sessions. Maybe he wasn’t so useless after all? Maybe he is just a Uniparty shill.

    W
    T
    F

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    • JohnCarlson says:

      The third time is enemy action and Sessions went way beyond that.

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    • red6242 says:

      Truth is Trump picked him and many others that turned out really bad when he could have picked people that he knew would be 100% on our side, things could have been so much better if he would have did that and stop listening to whoever advises him on picks. Number 1 requirement for each pick should have been someone Trump could trust the life of his family that they would be on our side and go after corruption.

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      • NC Patriot says:

        He was new to DC. He did not have a ready made “team” who came with him——-and lots of slots to fill.

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        • Sarah Palin sarahpalin.com says:

          There were many loyalists from which to choose.

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          • Dutchman says:

            And many ‘loyalists’, who supported him during the campaign, that were,and are SNAKES.
            Chris Christie comes to mind. How many people,do you know that you would trust with your families life?

            Currently, I know 3-4. Not NEAR enough to staff up an administration, and doubt ANY of the 3-4 I know could ‘pass’ a Senate confirmation.

            He HAD to go outside his small circle of those he could trust.

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          • clairebee says:

            Yes, starting with Sessions. And Gen Flynn would have been a real asset.

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        • Ronnie says:

          Well, it’s two years later and the President chose Barr for AG. After Graham’s revelations about Barr/Mueller, I’m not confident this was a wise move. Who’s advising the President on these nominations?!!

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      • People I know were ecstatic that Jeff Sessions, loyal Trump friend was going to be AG. We all thought Jeff was a staunch conservative and would be leading the charge to restore law and order, be the helper DJT needed to drain the swamp. Full on member and conductor of the TRUMP TRAIN.
        Instead we were astounded to discover that JBS was a wimp and quite possibly a fraud and lifelong member of the swamp. He betrayed us all, and how could he look another American in the eye ever again is incomprehensible to me.

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      • dd_sc says:

        McConnell recommended Sessions to Trump. I suspect he gave the usual caveat that Sessions would be someone he could get confirmed.

        I don’t know if McConnell knew that Sessions would end up recusing himself. I think McConnell’s main goal was to get Trump’s main supporter on immigration policy out of the Senate. McConnell had already bumped Sessions from the chairmanship of the Senate Committee on Immigration (or whatever they call it) and gave that slot to Senator Enzi (R-WY).

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    • Ronald Hellesvig says:

      Looks like Sessions was the tool of the Deep State that made sure the cover up worked. More and more we see what scum we have in office. There is going to be a reckoning and it won’t be pretty.

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    • concerned3 says:

      It is possible that Sessions knew the people behind the attempt to take down President Trump. Did Sessions know that the Gang-Of Eight was behind the effort commit treason against President Trump and did he simply want to be on the winning side? Unwilling to act against his old friends in Congress.

      Think about it, the FBI, DOJ and CIA needed allot of help to keep all of this covered up and they got it. You have seen the same Arrogant Faces, I have, they knew they would never be prosecuted.

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  6. JohnCarlson says:

    As Stalin said, those who vote don’t matter; those who count the votes matter (and rule). Likewise, evidence doesn’t matter; those who control what evidence is made public matter. And that latter is still mostly controlled by the crime wave criminals like Mueller, the FBI and DOJ. What Meadows, or whoever, has released, is but a drop in the ocean.

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  7. Fools Gold says:

    I read once that Trump reads epochtimes..🤔

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  8. covfefe999 says:

    I was thinking “why Epoch Times?” I didn’t know much about it. It’s China-oriented, founded and run by “Chinese-Americans” whatever that means. I doubt anyone in Congress would choose them.

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    • ladypenquin says:

      We just starting receiving the print version, somehow got on a mail offer for them. Hubby researched them and we’ve ordered it. Very impressive and covers many subjects.

      Liked by 2 people

    • zephyrbreeze says:

      They could be Chinese trying to sow discord among Americans with the government. Or they could be Chinese trying to be patriots and expose corruption because they disagree with Communist China.

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      • Tazio Nuvolari says:

        Epoch Times is owned by members of Falun Gong, a large religious sect in China that has been highly persecuted by the Communist government.

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        • TarsTarkas says:

          Watch out for Falun Gong. They may be down but they’re not out, if there is a major disaster in China (I’m very afraid of the quality of the construction of the Three Gorges Dam) there will be a resurgence. Sort of like Gulen is down and in exile but waiting for Erdogan to make a meglomanic mistake.

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        • formerdem says:

          Some people say Falun Gong is a controlled opposition. Many of its members sincere and some have suffered terribly but despite that….

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  9. Zorro says:

    Lisa Page’s legal team got her quite the makeover. Upgraded hair style and wardrobe. See before and after pics. Apparently they thought that it would increase her likability factor, gain favorable impressions, and increase confidence in her testimony. CNN reported, at the time, how impressed Meadows was with her testimony. IMO, she knows more than she revealed but played it as just a gal doing her job. Niether her or Strzok are biased, according to themselves, despite what your eyes see in the texts.

    I read some comments on Twitter that she lost her husband in all this mess but see no evidence to confirm that. She has another job and her life goes on.

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  10. Ej says:

    Maybe this is Meadows’ shot across the bow. Keep up your impeachment crap and I will drip drip?

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  11. Latina says:

    We need OPERATION CAR WASH:

    “Operation Car Wash” involves billions in bribes, scores of politicians.
    Operation Car Wash, one of the largest bribery cases ever investigated, is being led by a small group of idealistic, young Brazilian prosecutors and a crusading judge
    2017-We already have charged more than 200 people for hundreds of crimes

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    • wondering999 says:

      Here are some more links about “Operation Car Wash”
      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/01/brazil-operation-car-wash-is-this-the-biggest-corruption-scandal-in-history
      “Launched in March 2014, the operation had initially focused on agents known as doleiros (black market money dealers), who used small businesses, such as petrol stations and car washes, to launder the profits of crime. But police soon realised they were on to something bigger when they discovered that the doleiros were working on behalf of an executive at Petrobras, Paulo Roberto Costa, the director of refining and supply. This link led prosecutors to uncover a vast and extraordinarily intricate web of corruption. Under questioning, Costa described how he, Cerveró and other Petrobras directors had been deliberately overpaying on contracts with various companies for office construction, drilling rigs, refineries and exploration vessels. The contractors they were paying had formed an agreement to ensure they were guaranteed business on excessively lucrative terms if they agreed to channel a share of between 1% and 5% of every deal into secret slush funds.”

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    • wondering999 says:

      Here’s an article from BBC, “Brazil Corruption Scandals: All You Need to Know”
      https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-35810578

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  12. DeWalt says:

    We are the government and our job is to protect the government at all cost.

    Liked by 4 people

  13. Pokey says:

    I agree that “this whole thing is fubar”

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  14. We can only hope says:

    Sundance – your analysis has been spot on over the months and without this website, we would be in the dark. I would appreciate your thoughts. Do you think it’s likely that many inside the DOJ, NSA, etc knew (know) exactly what was (is) transpiring in real time? If yes, then we are left we three scenarios: (1) Everyone inside the beltway was snookered and dumb as a box of rocks.(unlikely) (2) Everyone inside the beltway form a hive of co-conspirators. (probably more likely than (1) ), or (3) the criminals have been given the noose to hang themselves.

    In other words, either Trump has been played by the swamp for the past 2 years, OR, he had at least a few people with investigative/prosecutorial power who decided that the most efficient way to drain the swamp is to surveil the criminals as they attempt to cover their crimes.

    I’m not confident that (3) our reality, but would appreciate your insight.

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  15. Right to reply says:

    I’m guessing that the third party who received Clinton’s emails, was the Clinton Foundation. They could be used for personal profit. Imagine knowing something bad in a certain place was going to occur, and you hedged your bets on the stock market accordingly?

    I am also stunned that Page stated there was nothing in the dossier they were able to “Disprove”. Cohen in Prague could be disproved along with Urinating prostitutes.

    I guess Miss Page didn’t rise as high as she did without being a lying bitch!

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  16. covfefe999 says:

    This b, Page. I went back through the text messages. In May 2017 she and luvvah boy Strzok are fretting about possible new jobs on Mueller’s team. NOT ONCE does Page mention her kids or her husband who she has been cheating on. She very clearly explains to her luvvah that she feels inadequate for the new job! THAT is why she didn’t want to take the job, and after caving and taking it she probably found out it was true. She was not good enough.

    “I’m still really stressed out. I feel like an imposter. There’s no way I can live up to their expectations”.

    “I’m not a real lawyer anymore! They have no idea.”

    When talking about another attorney who would be on Mueller’s team, someone named Aaron, Lisa clearly states that she feels inferior to him, that he has done more than she has.

    Mueller probably wanted her on the team because she was the FBI ho. I’m sure they all knew about the affair.

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    • Zorro says:

      From Business Insider

      “Aaron Zebley
      Associated Press/Jeff Chiu

      Zebley is a longtime FBI staffer who spent years in the counterterrorism division as a special agent before becoming the agency’s chief of staff under Mueller’s former leadership.

      Between FBI stints, Zebley served as assistant US attorney in the national security and terrorism unit. He then moved to the DOJ’s national security division before eventually joining the WilmerHale firm in 2014. He, like Quarles and Rhee, left his job at the firm to work on Mueller’s investigation.

      Zebley’s early work at the FBI consisted of grueling, complicated investigations into terrorist groups like Al Qaeda — even before 9/11 propelled the organization into infamy. Yet in recent years at WilmerHale, his focus has turned to cybersecurity.

      A recent profile in Wired called Zebley a “dogged FBI agent turned prosecutor turned confidant,” noting that his tenacity, history of working alongside Mueller, and globetrotting, investigatory experience will be crucial assets for the Trump-Russia probe.”

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      • covfefe999 says:

        She felt inferior to him. He had some great experience. What did she do? She was the FBI PR rep phoning in leaks and other crap to reporters. That’s why she said she wasn’t an attorney any more, she wasn’t doing law. She must have felt completely out of her league when she started working for Mueller. She’s lucky she left on her own because she would have been let go just like luvvah boy was.

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  17. Merkin Muffy says:

    From the article:
    “Page steadfastly maintained there was no bias present in either the Clinton-email investigation or the Trump-Russia investigation on the part of anyone within the FBI or the DOJ and went to some lengths to illustrate that, in general, FBI PERSONEL DON’T LIKE MOST OF THE PEOPLE THEY INVESTIGATE.
    Hmm… Or do they investigate most of the people they don’t like? They liked Hillary, and they let her loose.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      We can’t take anything she said as being truthful.

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    • Joseph W Moss says:

      YES!! I saw that quote too and just about fell out of my chair. UNBELIEVABLE. The Clinton email scandal was a direct result of the debacle in Benghazi for GOD sakes. Yeah, I guess she assumed that the widows of the those who died in Benghazi would be more concerned that Russia hacked dumbass Podesta’s email account and that outweighs concerns over weapons trafficking out of Benghazi by the State Department. You’ve got be fng kidding me.

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  18. REX says:

    Lewandowski revealed that the big reveal and action against participants in SpyGate will be held for the 2020 election.

    If true, I think it’s a disgrace.

    Reducing the greatest scandal in US history to a partisan political weapon, in order to win an election, is outrageous. This scandal does not belong to Trump, but to the population. It’s not his toy.

    The nation needs transparency, if it’s going to ever have a chance to find some common ground again.

    It’s also a very high risk strategy, that may well backfire. The assumption must be that as the conspirators have all been IDd and muzzled (some probably under surveillance), their ability to inflict harm is under control. Yeah right. These people are desperate and brazen. They can still do a hell of a lot of damage – and will do so.

    So I get the strategy, but don’t like it at all. Trump has to fire Bob Mueller immediately – call the SOBs bluff – then declassify, then start using his exec power to fire people. And that’s just the start.

    My ten cents.

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    • Zorro says:

      In favor of waiting for revelations to impact the 2020 election is the fact some important areas are turning more purple and blue as seen in the mid terms. If Trump loses 2020 MAGA is not only over, but totalitarian Demosocialism starts in earnest.

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    • 007 says:

      I couldn’t agree more. It’s either the greatest scandal in US history or it’s a partisan political weapon. If it’s a partisan political weapon then it’s not the greatest scandal in US history. It’s one or the other.

      Make history great again

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      • WES says:

        007: In the future, please refrain from using the 007 number!

        The 007 number has been specially reserved for use on the license plate of the Russian ambassador’s official car in Ottawa! Thank-you very much!

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    • JIM COMEY IS A WEASEL_DOUG says:

      POTUS TRUMP 2020 or all is lost anyway. It’s his azz being cooked, I’ll trust him to release the Kraken as he sees fit.

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  19. Jeff says:

    Obviously Mueller is the coverup key. In order to take down the sham mueller needs to be exposed. He has exposures As FBI Director during the Uranium One sake. That is where we need to go.

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  20. covfefe999 says:

    I suppose some of you knew but I didn’t. FBI ho Lisa Page is now working for DC firm ZwillGen and she’s using one of her glossy posed and photoshopped images on her employee page. Low cut top under her open suit jacket says “I’m here to counsel you, sweetie”. https://www.zwillgen.com/crb_team/lisa-page/

    Funny thing, she’s only admitted to the Ohio Bar. In small print near the bottom it says. “Not admitted in D.C. Practicing under D.C. bar member supervision pursuant to D.C. Court of Appeals Rule 49(c)(8).”

    Rule 49(c)(8) provides a temporary exception to the general prohibition on the practice of law by individuals who are not members of the D.C. Bar. It allows an individual who has been admitted to the bar of another jurisdiction to practice law in the District of Columbia if supervised by a D.C. Bar Member for up to 360 days subject to the particular requirements in that rule. CAUTION: Before calling yourself an associate, please make sure you have been admitted to the bar of a U.S. jurisdiction and make the proper disclaimers, i.e., “Not admitted to D.C. but being supervised by a licensed D.C. Bar member,” https://www.dcbar.org/about-the-bar/news/unauthorized-practice-of-law.cfm

    Awww, Lisa still isn’t a real attorney! She has to be supervised.

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  21. Mike says:

    Removing redactions and releasejng all information to the Mueller investigation is not obstruction.

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  22. Bob, Esq. says:

    Question for Sundance or anyone else: When does Brennan most likely enter the picture?

    If this entire fraud begins with illicitly obtained raw FISA information, then when did the handiwork of FUSION GPS get into Brennan’s hands?

    “On April 19th, 2016, the day after the FBI stopped allowing access to the FISA database, the wife of Fusion-GPS founder Glenn Simpson, Mary B Jacoby, went to the White House. This is April 19th 2016, the day after the FBI, stopped allowing Fusion-GPS access the NSA FISA-702 database. Immediately following this White House visit the Clinton campaign hire Fusion GPS to conduct opposition research on Donald Trump, surrounding Russia?” — Sundance, 1/11/2018

    If this is the point where the Hillary Clinton campaign paid Fusion GPS for intelligence it illicitly gleaned from raw FISA information, laundered through an ex-British spy, and FUSED into a phony smear-dossier so a sitting Republican president’s administration could imbue it with legitimacy, then where, when and how does Brennan come into the picture?

    Am I wrong to infer that the fact Jacoby could arrange a Whitehouse visit the very day after FISA access was cut off suggests the Obama administration was on board long before Richards disrupted FUSION’s exploitation of raw FISA information?

    Again, if this traces back to a fictional narrative created from illicitly obtained raw FISA information, then what is the most probable chain of custody?

    Simpson/Fusion mines the raw FISA info

    Simpson hands the fabricated narrative to Steele;

    Steele hands it to Gaeta on July 5, 2016

    Gaeta hands it off to Brennan when he gets back??

    OR did Steele get info to Brennan via his friends in British intelligence BEFORE meeting Gaeta in July?

    “GCHQ first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious “interactions” between figures connected to Trump and known or suspected Russian agents, a source close to UK intelligence said. This intelligence was passed to the US as part of a routine exchange of information, they added.
    Over the next six months, until summer 2016, a number of western agencies shared further information on contacts between Trump’s inner circle and Russians, sources said. ”

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/13/british-spies-first-to-spot-trump-team-links-russia

    https://spectator.org/confirmed-john-brennan-colluded-with-foreign-spies-to-defeat-trump/

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    • concerned3 says:

      Whatever it’s worth, I believe GCHQ was involved with spying on the Trump’s campaign in very early 2016 at the direction of X-President Obama. Wanting to cover his own ass the X-GCHQ director gave them a time limit on his involvement. And, the real reason for the FISA warrant in October 2016. And, the reason for the X-GCHQ director to resign his post in early January of 2017.

      If I am right Obama and his staff knew by January of 2016. I just want to see Obama’s PDB from that time frame. And, I want to see who approved the ISA warrant in October 2016? Either the 2016 Gang-Of-Eight or the X-President.

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      • Bob, Esq. says:

        “Obama and his staff knew by January of 2016.”

        So you think it goes Simpson>>Steele>>GCHQ>>Brennan (long before Gaeta gets it from FBI in July 2016?)

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        • OpenMind says:

          The 702 and foreign intel was funneled to Steele and Nellie by Perkins Coie and Fusion after received from Brennan and the outside contractors.

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        • concerned3 says:

          I think the X-President or the Gang-Of-Eight made a Five-Eyes request starting with GCHQ and the target (Trump). They (Five-Eyes) did their best to make it happen. The X-Director of GHCQ did not want to be left holding the bag. So a cover story was constructed by the IC to justify the spying, in case they were found out. The FISA warrant was born.

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    • OpenMind says:

      Brennan went to Moscow for clandestine meetings in March of 2016. He stopped through London (to visit GCQ?) shortly thereafter. The info he gathered likely made its way to Nellie, GPS, and Steele by late April.

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      • Bob, Esq. says:

        I’m trying to get a handle on the mechanics. If it’s all a fabrication from the illicit FISA information by FUSION, then where does it first enter the intelligence bloodstream and get to Brennan? Through Steele’s contacts at GCQ? If so, he’s more than a tool to launder the info.

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        • OpenMind says:

          Brennan had access to everything but couldn’t use it on US soil. After the unofficial intel had been sufficiently laundered, he could approach Dirty Harry to prompt him to prompt Comey. Go back and look at the testimony of Brennan before congress. He knew everything the whole time. Just had to sprinkle breadcrumbs, start up Hurricane Crossfire, backfill with contactor 702 data, launder, etc. Brilliant really.

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          • Bob, Esq. says:

            I know Brennan plays a big part in the inception, but Simpson’s fingerprints are on the dossier:

            “Once you understand that Simpson knew exactly who Paul Manafort was, it’s impossible not to spot the former journalist’s creative wit sprinkled throughout the dossier, which uses the tantalizing figure of “PUTIN” to draw attention to corruption that Glenn Simpson knew was entirely real from his own reporting. “Ex-Ukrainian President YANUKOVYCH confides directly to PUTIN that he authorised (sic) kick-back payments to MANAFORT, as alleged in western media,” the dossier relates. “Assures Russian President however there is no documentary evidence/trail.”
            https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/251897/obama-steele-dossier-russiagate

            All the trails seem to trace back to Simpson and Jacoby.

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            • OpenMind says:

              Simpson is good at what he does. He took the handoff, ran with the intel, hired Nellie and Steele, and then cooked up his own narrative for his client, DNC and team Clinton. The GPS team was then on a parallel track with Brennan’s continuing activities. Brennan didn’t need to see or read the dossier to understand what it included; he was part of the genesis of the dang thing.

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    • JIM COMEY IS A WEASEL_DOUG says:

      I think Flynn is the trailhead. He was the cabal’s first target. Everything snowballed from there.

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  23. recoverydotgod says:

    IMO, these transcripts were leaked so the information could be available for the Barr confirmation hearing.

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  24. Michael huye says:

    I will not live to see justice in my lifetime. This makes me sick.

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    • mr.piddles says:

      It’s tough, I know. But consider: we’re still talking about it and information continues to flow. Sometimes it trickles, but at least it trickles. Mueller supposedly about to do… something… whoa knows what. Then maybe we’ll see some real fireworks when Rudy opens up a can of Rudy Giuliani on their collective ass. I think we’re a ways off from “buried” at this point. Barr’s supposed fondness for Mueller is a concern though.

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  25. butch cassidy says:

    We have this wealth of information and?

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  26. Republicanvet91 says:

    ” Do you remember who told congress a few weeks ago that any transcript releases may interfere with the Mueller investigation?…”

    Yes, and so far it has been an absolute farce. Uh, no, we can’t release anything because it might after the colossal waste of money by Muley. Trust us.

    Yet it’s clear from these transcripts that Page refused to say anything about anything that might affect his witch hunt…on the advice of counsel.

    Why would no Congressional investigator not demand they be released on that basis?

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  27. Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

    “More information is supporting the theory that the current big Justice Department “investigations” are actually functioning as big cover-up operations. Robert Mueller’s team is effectively hiding key evidence related to serious crimes committed by government officials. Mueller has nearly complete control over what the public or any investigator can see. He has control over what witnesses can talk about.
    This means that the Huber and Horowitz investigations exist to make you think something is being investigated when it is not. That is why Representatives Doug Collins, Mark Meadows, and Jim Jordan sent a letter to Huber, the U.S. attorney, this week that essentially exposes the fraud.” ~ Bryce Buchanan over at AmericanThinker

    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/01/hiding_evidence_the_continuing_coverup.html

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  28. Rynn69 says:

    A simple equation:

    FUBAR = FUBAR FBI

    There will never, ever again be trust in this agency if the people guilty do not pay for these crimes against the Republic The biggest Fake News ever will be “Fidelity, Bravery, and Integrity” seen on the seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

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  29. WES says:

    Please correct me if I am wrong! My impression is this leaked info is just the stuff said by Page during House testimony. It is not from the actuall 50,000 text messages!

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  30. I just picked up this link from Drudge. Looks like they are moving full steam ahead to try and take out our President. This article is a DIRECT RESPONSE to the leak of the Lisa Page transcripts:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fbi-opened-inquiry-into-whether-trump-was-secretly-working-on-behalf-of-russia/ar-BBS83LZ?fdhead=newflex-views

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    • wondering999 says:

      No one has explained to me why, if Trump would have been “working with the Russians”, who so many Russian diplomats would have met untimely deaths between the time of the election and Trump’s inauguration. Who on earth benefitted from that string of “accidents” and “heart attacks”? Methinks *somebody* was indeed “working with the Russians” — and it wasn’t the Trump campaign

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    • covfefe999 says:

      So you’re thinking the Page “leak” was done by the Dems, not the GOP?

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      • covfefe999 says:

        Or is the MSN article is a rebuttal of sorts? Author Goldman is from the New York Times, a coworker of Page/Strzok favorite schlubby Matt Appuzzo.

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      • No, that didn’t occur to me till you mentioned it.

        My first thought was that the Demonics were so freaked out by her leaked testimony that Mueller had to come back with an even more outrageous story.

        Now, going back and reading some more, It seems that Lovely Lisa’s testimony was completely staged. She too was able to hide behind “the investigation ” and “national security ” BS.

        Maybe she was setting up the situation so that they can claim they had the foundation for “obstruction ” without the FISA scam.

        I don’t know- it makes my head spin. How the heck can Sundance keep up with it?

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      • Rex says:

        (in my best Bill Clinton voice)
        “That would depend on the definition of ‘GOP’ “.

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    • mr.piddles says:

      Hold it, hold it, hold it, HOLD IT!!!! WTF does this even mean???

      “Agents and senior F.B.I. officials had grown suspicious of Mr. Trump’s ties to Russia during the 2016 campaign but held off on opening an investigation into him, the people said, in part because they were uncertain how to proceed with an inquiry of such sensitivity and magnitude.”

      WHAT THE **EFF** ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT???

      They DIDN’T open an investigation in 2016? So what was the Page FISA for? What was the Papadopoulos FISA for? What was the Steele Dossier on Trump being used for? Uh… that would be FISA applications. FISA applications don’t exist in a freaking vacuum. The FBI **WAS** investigating Team Trump in 2016. WE ALREADY KNOW THAT!!!! The objective was to **CONNECT TEAM TRUMP TO RUSSIA** under the false narrative that “Trump is dirty”.

      So they’re splitting semantic hairs by saying Trump HIMSELF wasn’t under investigation in 2016? They’re saying that the “Russia counterintelligence investigation” didn’t kick off until around the time Comey was fired? Is that the objective here? In the words of Sundance: that’s bullshit.

      What could I POSSIBLY be missing???

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      • Bill Henslee says:

        The first move of the conspirators was a ploy to get a FISA warrant to open NSA electronic monitoring of some Trump employees. Then under some NSA rule they could get electronic surveillance on people connected to them up to 5 steps away. This allowed them to spy on virtually all of Trump top workers on the campaign. That was the original intent–to spy on the campaign.

        Then the operation morphed into a cover story about Russian collusion so that a Special Counsel could be named. Now everything was covered by claims that any information was involved with national security. This served to remove the threat of any investigation by Trump appointees once they took office. That’s why they aimed at Flynn first. He was an old hand at intelligence operations for thirty years and would probably be the first to smell a rat as Director of the NSC.

        Blowing smoke to the press through leaks would keep the country in the dark and political partisans either confused (GOP) or angry (DEMS). In addition it would keep the Trump Administration under fire, from Congressional Dems and their allies in the Press and having to respond to further collusion investigations that Trump knew were spurious.

        Does all this sound convoluted and complex? Remember we are dealing with government employees who have spent their entire careers in the dark arts of intelligence ops. They may get away with no jail time yet.

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    • OpenMind says:

      It’s not a response to the Page testimony. It’s a transparent attempt to dominate the news mainstream news cycle for a couple of days. It will work unless more leaks are forthcoming. Ohrs?

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  31. Ivehadit says:

    Why does Joe diGenova say he likes Jeff Sessions?

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  32. Zorro says:

    The Epoch Times releases the information to a small audience. The MSM will spin it and release to a large audience. There is no smoking guns in the article. I’m not sure what is accomplished with the leak. It conveys desperation that nothing else is being done or will be done, so let’s leak. Are we saying that leaks from the Demosocialists in collusion with their MSM are bad, but this isn’t?

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  33. Hebo Sabe says:

    The reason that the left almost took over the world is that conservatives are too busy with their own ways and means to fight for others.

    Even their base.

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  34. namberak says:

    It strikes me that it would take PDJT’s entire second term to muck this stable out.

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    • dd_sc says:

      Longer than that. That’s why the president that follows Trump is as important as Trump. Steve Bannon was correct when he said this was a decade(s) long process.

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  35. Darklich123 says:

    A lot of people need killing. Sad but true. The fear of God must be placed in our elites again. That seems to give us plebs a half of century of breathing room.

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  36. ATheoK says:

    Lisa Page;

    ““I mean, given a Trump-Clinton race, yes, I was supporting Clinton, but I was not a particularly big fan of hers.”

    Classic misdirection.
    A) Page supports HRC, claimed caveat is false.

    B) Page has already been caught texting that preventing a Trump Presidency was a paramount desire of hers, and colluded with Strzok, McCabe and Baker.

    It’s akin to a violent rapist claiming that “they did not ‘want’ to beat the victim”.

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  37. KentR says:

    The leaking (and this nightmare) will end when Donald Trump does what he promised and declassifies all this information and posts every bit of the FISA and related investigation materials on the internet. Full declassification = full disclosure = no need for leaking.

    Leaks now are a way to hide the truth. Full declassification is the ONLY way to the truth.

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  38. Hillbilly Jedi says:

    So infuriating how Trump let these people play him by getting him to hire the these people back into office that is trying to destroy him.

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  39. dd_sc says:

    “If you were weighing resources with respect to which poses a graver threat to national security, which is more, frankly, important, there is no doubt—at least in mine or anybody else’s mind that I know—that the Russia investigation posed an incredible threat to national security, and whether we got into the Weiner laptop simply did not.”

    Page returned to this topic several times:

    “The notion that there might be more emails that have not previously been seen that existed on Hillary Clinton’s email server just simply don’t even enter into the realm of the same room of seriousness. The Clinton investigation involved activities that had taken place 3 years prior. It’s an entirely historical investigation.”

    “In the assessment of the Counterintelligence Division, they still don’t even come close to the threat posed if Russia had co-opted a member of a political campaign.”

    Rather telling that the FBI considers the known criminality of H. Clinton (classified information on home brew server) and the corruption detailed in her emails of lesser importance than alleged collusion between Team Trump and the Russians, and that Sec. State Clinton isn’t considered to be compromised because of her actions – like pay-for-play schemes.

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  40. Jane Smith says:

    We need an AG like Klayman…who will actually be an AG.

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