IG Michael Horowitz Informs Grassley, Goodlatte and Nunes of FBI Text Recovery…

Always remember the batting order: Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes was first up; closely coordinating with Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley (2nd up); closely coordinating with House Judiciary Chairman Bob Goodlatte (3rd up); all of them coordinating with the DOJ Office of Inspector General Michael Horowitz (clean up).  This is a long developed plan.

In order to carry out the entire reform operation, communication is made through public letters. Sunlight is part of the strategy.  Questioning each other publicly and answering each other publicly is part of the strategy… the media is not used to this. Deception needs whispers. Deception doesn’t like transparency.

IG Michael Horowitz shares his responsive letter to Grassley, Nunes and Goodlatte (pdf link here).  Pay attention to Page#1 second paragraph, and the last paragraph on page two:

(pdf link)

Beginning Page #1, Paragraph #2: Inspector General Michael Horowitz is openly responding to Senator Grassley, saying the FBI told his office the exact same thing about losing the Strzok and Page text messages.

However, in paragraph #3 Horowitz states as a result of the congressional action; and as a result of Attorney General Jeff Sessions responsive engagement therein; his office received the pressure (help) it needed to get DOJ/FBI forensic tools activated to find the texts.


(LINK to Back Story)

This is exactly why the White Hats (Nunes, Grassley, Goodlatte and Horowitz) are communicating publicly.  They are using public pressure, ie. outrage therein, upon the DOJ and FBI to force compliance.

The White Hat team are telling us, the public, what is going on.  We are responding to what is going on.  Our response to the sunlight is causing changes in behavior. That internal (amid themselves) and external (with public) communication collaboration is needed because the entities within the DOJ and FBI are working against investigative interests.

Those who have participated with the historic corruption within the DOJ and FBI are trying to stop oversight from exposing their activity.  The oversight is smartly using public sunlight to expose the road-blocks; this approach puts the internal corruption team on their heels.

It is critical to understand how this intensely modern-era communication plan is using social media (and new-media leverage), to working around the traditional U.S. media who align with the Black Hats in the DOJ and FBI.

We noted this strategy early in December.  I’m repeating it here for added emphasis:

The text messages between FBI Agent Peter Strozk and his mistress, FBI lawyer Lisa Page, were originally released to Fox News and CBS. SEE HERE and SEE HERE.

The messages reflect a strong bias against President Trump. However, the bigger story is not the anti-Trump bias within the text communication, the BIGGER story is why the Department of Justice, Office of Inspector General (OIG), began even looking at Agent Peter Strozk’s communication in the first place.

Remember, the original mandate by the Inspector General’s office was initiated to review and discover any politicization of the FBI and/or DOJ officials.

After news broke of Strzok’s removal from investigative duty within the FBI counterintelligence unit, what the OIG responding statement said was for 11 months the Dept of Justice OIG office has been investigating the politicization within the DOJ and FBI and deciding if the actions, or lack of action, was driven by the political ideology of the participants therein:


(pdf Link)

In essence the IG began looking for any investigative issues that might show how political bias might have resulted in manipulated or changed investigative outcomes. Potentially those outlined issues are brutally unethical, and most likely unlawful. Emphasis:

“The January 2017 statement issued by the Department of Justice Office of the Inspector General (OIG) announcing its review of allegations regarding various actions of the Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau of Investigation in advance of the 2016 election stated that the OIG review would, among other things, consider whether certain underlying investigative decisions were based on improper considerations and that we also would include issues that might arise during the course of the review.

The OIG has been reviewing allegations involving communications between certain individuals, and will report its findings regarding those allegations promptly upon completion of the review of them.”

It was within this IG investigation that SOMETHING pointed the investigative agents in the direction of FBI Agent Peter Strzok. What that something was and is remained an unknown variable in early December as the stories first broke. The outcome of the subsequent OIG inquiry led to Agent Strzok being removed mid-summer from Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team.

There was some precipitating event that led the IG to investigate the communication of FBI Agent Strzok. That precipitating event or behavior is where the real story lies, and not in the downstream collection –and current release– of biased text messages between Strzok and his mistress FBI Attorney Lisa Page who worked for Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe.

Against the backdrop of current activity, and knowing there is a newly established special joint task force within the DOJ and FBI to identify leaks, we can reasonably speculate Agent Strzok was caught while the IG was investigating politicization, and the DOJ/FBI leak task force was hunting intelligence “leakers“.

As Judicial Committee Representative Jim Jordan rightly outlined, Agent Strzok would not likely be removed because he had biased text messages with his mistress. So long as that bias did not interfere with his work duty, there is no inherent issue.  Strzok was not in a position of supervision over Lisa Page so they could encounter like rabbits to their black-hats desire if their relationship was known by FBI leaders.  [Though there could be a blackmail angle specifically due to the counterintelligence nature of Strzok’s job.]

If FBI Agent Strzok was a “leaker” to the media, or worse, well, that becomes an entirely different kettle-o-fish. It appears from the text messages both Strzok and Page were leaking to The Washington Post and Politico. Getting caught as a leaker is likely the original reason Strzok was removed and reassigned to the HR post; not necessarily the bias; those discoveries came later.

The bias, writ large, becomes an issue later when there’s evidence of action taken as a result of that bias.  Agent Peter Strzok leaking information to the media; his changing the outcome of an FBI investigation into a political ally, Hillary Clinton; and his investigative involvement in the Trump Russia Conspiracy, via the Steele Dossier and FISA-702 abuse; and his role in targeting political opposition, well, that’s the real issue evident here.

AUGUST 2017 – […] A former FBI agent who worked with Strzok on and off over several years in the bureau’s counterintelligence division said that Strzok’s move to HR means he has now been separated from counterintelligence work altogether.

[…] Strzok’s departure also came one week after The Washington Post reported that Mueller had obtained a search warrant to raid the home of President Donald Trump’s former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort. The Post report cited “people familiar with the search,” prompting questions about whether anyone on Mueller’s team had leaked the existence of the search warrant to the Post. (link)

Which leads us to the next headline story, EARLY DECEMBER 2017, that dovetails into this ideological weaponization by FBI/DOJ/DC officials leaking to the media.

Donald Trump Jr. has now written a letter of complaint to the House Rep. K. Michael Conaway, a Texas Republican who is heading the House Intelligence inquiry into Russian election interference. Don Jr’s outline specifically focuses on the erroneous leak to CNN about the content of a received email; and requests an investigation into how the leak took place:

The Washington Times reports:

[…] Republicans suspect that the staff of Rep. Adam Schiff, California Democrat, leaked the erroneous “scoop” to CNN. They say his staff regularly leaks, with CNN being a favorite, with a spin that is not accurate.

Mr. Schiff, who is a big fan of the discredited Trump dossier, appeared on TV afterward. Mr. Futerfas said he misrepresented his client’s testimony.

[…] Mr. Futerfas’s implication is that the leakers let the story catch fire on social media and other venues before correcting it.

“Ranking Member Schiff and his staff do not leak classified or confidential information, and any disclosure of non-public information by the congressional committees undertaking investigations is singularly unhelpful,” Mr. Schiff said in a statement. “It is imperative that all investigations into Russia’s covert political interference campaign operate with appropriate discretion and refrain from publicizing information for short-sighted political gain.” (read more)

Having some idea of how these DC investigative practices work, it is highly doubtful that Don Jr’s attorney self-initiated that complaint on his client’s behest.

There is a strong possibility the investigative unit, the new leak task-force, and/or the IG office, needs that initiating complaint in order to continue targeting the potential subjects of the leaks.

Given the recent activity surrounding the House Intelligence Committee, there is a better than good likelihood Minority Chairman Adam Schiff is one of the targets; and if the pattern exhibited within the Strzok investigation is followed, Schiff’s communications might also be monitored within the net as it is cast.

FBI Agent Peter Strzok’s former boss was Bill Priestap, FBI Asst. Director in charge of Counterintelligence. [The same Bill Priestap James Comey stated was the person who decided not to tell congressional oversight of the investigation] Bill Priestap’s boss was FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe. McCabe was also Lisa Page’s boss. Directly above McCabe in the chain-of-command was FBI Director James Comey.  The Chief Legal Counsel for the entire unit was James Baker.

Notice how things are seeming to gain speed within the daily/weekly discovery cycles?

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341 Responses to IG Michael Horowitz Informs Grassley, Goodlatte and Nunes of FBI Text Recovery…

  1. susan.youngblood@comcast.net says:

    Now for the real story!

    Sent from my iPhone


    Liked by 1 person

  2. South Col says:

    Watch Horowitz for signs of degeneration into an establishment fixer.
    He was appointed by Obama who knew that a reliable statist might be need in the IG position if worse came to worst. Appointed by Obama means never to be trusted.

    Liked by 4 people

    • MVW says:

      “He was appointed by Obama who knew that a reliable statist might be need in the IG position if worse came to worst.”

      Bumbling accidents happen. So far, the Obama team of miscreants has shown remarkable blindness to their precarious position. Hill Clinton is the only one not doing an Alfred E. Newman, ‘What, Me Worry?’

      The enormity of the ‘Secret Society of Traitors’ idiocy, their ‘paper trail’ which these days means the data trail has led to their demise. Rats stuck in the rat trap glue paper.

      But these underlings are not the real issue, which is layers deeper, the puppet masters.

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    • ForGodandCountry says:

      𝘈𝘱𝘱𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘣𝘺 𝘖𝘣𝘢𝘮𝘢 𝘮𝘦𝘢𝘯𝘴 𝘯𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳 𝘵𝘰 𝘣𝘦 𝘵𝘳𝘶𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘥.

      In this case, you are incorrect. Here’s why.

      This link details his appointment in 2011, his subsequent fight against the Obama Admin.’s attempts to control him, limit his ability to do his job, and how he ultimately won that fight.



      It’s a short read, but you will be convinced.

      Liked by 14 people

    • JoAnn Leichliter says:

      Horowitz had an adversarial relationship with the Obama administration and seems to ne a stand-up guy. He may be more interested in the law and ethics than politics.

      As for his being an Obama appointee, we in flyover country have a quaint saying: even a blind hog finds the occasional acorn.


  3. Buckeye Ken says:

    Horowitz didn’t realize that they were missing before receiving notification? Troubling…

    Liked by 1 person

    • phoenixRising says:

      Horowitz had the texts, all of them.
      He is investigating the DOJ/FBI… He asks them for documents… part of routine investigation. The FBI turns over some documents (from a redundant server, but one in their care, one they are responsible for). FBI says “certain of documents you asked for are lost.” When FBI hears the “lost” documents can be ‘retrieved’ they suddenly ‘find’ the copies they are responsible for…

      Horowitz had copies of all… his follow-up with FBI forced their hand… they had to turn over the docs. Now the IG (and everyone else) know they were trying to hide some of the docs, and they lied about their being ‘lost’ (both crimes get added to all the others already known)

      Horowitz is an intelligent and trustworthy straight arrow… follows the law. Nothing ‘troubling’ about the IG.

      Liked by 14 people

    • nccosmiccurmudgeon says:

      As has been mentioned here several times, a good investigator does not ask questions without already knowing the answer.
      And it is a bit interesting that the IG was able to “retrieve” the data so quickly after the FBI claimed the data was “gone with the Schwinn”.

      Liked by 6 people

    • ZurichMike says:

      The leaks are real, the news is fake ==> “canary trap” for wrongdoers. Imagine all the electronic chatter among the wrongdoers when they heard that the text messages were “lost”. Now imagine their panic. And all of this “chatter” has probably been captured by investigators who are properly keeping an eye on those under investigation.

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  4. zimbalistjunior says:

    looking at texts: best doesnt mean best..it means best outcome

    oh oh

    Liked by 1 person

  5. robins111 says:

    “Obammy Boys, the pipes the pipes are calling”

    Liked by 8 people

  6. PowerCord says:

    Any forward progress is winning. Carry on. Burn the whole freakin’ thing down and let POTUS rebuild it and claim it as another bigly win.

    Liked by 8 people

  7. Southernborne says:

    I pray for our President and the white hats. When I was 13 President Kennedy said he would shatter the CIA Into a thousand pieces and scatter it in the wind. Six months later he was dead, one year later we were fully engaged in Vietnam. So when I was 18 I spent 13 months in Vietnam. The powers that be will go to any lengths to have their way, including murder,war or anything they need to do.

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  8. “A spokesman for Mueller’s office said Strzok was removed ‘immediately upon learning of the allegations’’ and added that Page left the Mueller team two weeks before it became aware of the allegations.”


    So Page left voluntarily, it seems. Did the lovebirds break up just before the texts were discovered? Was it a nasty break up? Inquiring minds would like to know.


    Liked by 9 people

    • “A friend of Page’s said there was no professional misconduct at issue in the matter, and she said Page left the Mueller team in July before any of the issues came to light.

      Page also no longer works much with McCabe, these people said.”

      Often, the simplest answer is the best answer.

      Liked by 1 person

      • Angel Martin says:

        If she didn’t return to her old job, or something better, it was a demotion.

        Liked by 1 person

      • Thecleaner says:

        So says the Waahington Compost who was the main benefactor of the intelligence leaks
        Can we at least try to get valid info before tossing up 100s of links daily to WAPO , NYT and CNN.


        • The point sailed right over your head. This is a vanilla article giving out a timeline, about which ramifications the reporter might not fully understand.


        • peighton2 says:

          I agree with TheCleaner. and disagree with coeurdaleneman. ANYTHING from the WAPO, NYT, CNN. NBS, CBS, ABC, – and the rest of the MSM, is tainted and is part of their 100% leftist propagandist narrative. Period. End of story. No matter how “vanilla” it may seem, it has an agenda. If that article seemed vanilla, it probably means that the vanilla article is a set-up or lead-in to some other narrative. Posting a link from one of those sites is instant invalidation of any points that someone might be trying to make.

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          • Sundance often quotes from MSM article for basic information.

            You must be new here. I’ve been here a long time, providing a lot of valuable input. Chill. We’re on the same side, only I have more crowdsourcing experience than you do.

            Sundance has opined that the IG found out about the Strzok text messages via the leak investigation. Well, maybe yes and maybe no. No one is positive yet. A coupld of the better posters have offered an alternate possibility that it might have been through other sources.

            An informant that has been mentioned. Think outside the box … it’s how we operate here.

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    • Honest Abbey says:

      The spouses had to know what the hell was going on. That’s probably how Lisa Page and Peter Strzok were able to carry on with their affair— they used this “covert operation” as the excuse given to their spouses as to why they constantly needed to be in contact with each other.

      The day Lisa Page’s husband took off his dummy hat is probably the day HE turned them in, forcing McCabe to “discover” the thousands upon thousands of text messages between the two.

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      • phoenixRising says:

        I still believe the “Strzok/Page” text marathon was a ‘drop box’ –

        if you check Chill’s tweeter thread the pages she shows indicate “inbox” – “outbox”
        No one has actually seen “Strzok” – Geo. Webb says Strzok worked briefly for the FBI about 20 yrs. ago, he can’t find him there after that. Maybe McCabe knew Strzok and used his name for the drop box? Maybe McCabe sometimes pretended to be Strzok? There’s lots here that seems strange and we may never know the full details. But think of the volume of texts there are in Strzok’s name! jus’ an alternative thought…


  9. dufrst says:

    Please assign the task of uncovering Hillary’s “bleached bit” emails to Mr. Horowitz! I have strong feeling he will be able to uncover those emails!

    Liked by 6 people

  10. Everywhereguy says:

    What a fly on the wall heard earlier today:

    Schieff: Crap, those bastards know everything already. We’re so screwed.

    Bigger Shot Dem: Calm down, you big baby. Go on CNN and hit the Russia narrative some more. That’s what we created it for, to justify the illegal partisan surveillance we were doing. All good Dems and media people know that narrative. They’ll eat it up. All they need is a fig leaf and they’ll hang in with us. They *want* to believe in us and support us. Simple.

    Liked by 2 people

  11. Lisa Jackson says:

    Excellent writing. Concise and very fact based. BRAVO.

    Liked by 1 person

  12. El Torito says:

    Now we slow walk it all into the 2018 elections…indictments about 3 months prior…nothing but DEM misery everyday from here out.

    Liked by 1 person

  13. C R Lord says:

    I am a published author, but I need help with something very special I wrote. I want to get a poem that I wrote in December 2017 entitled “MAGA” to the President. I believe the poem will become a national hit and infuriate the liberals but I want to have the President read it first. I put a request to contact me in through the White House site but no response yet. Does anyone know how to I might get my poem to the President without anyone intercepting it?

    The poem is about 20 verses and is like a narrative of his run, his election, the response of the people, the response of the liberals and the job he is doing.

    I don’t want to sound prideful but I believe it is very good and will bless many people.

    Liked by 4 people

    • C R Lord says:

      If anyone has an answer please respond through this site or visit my ministry site and send me a note through the contact page there. My ministry site is http://crlord.com THANK YOU VERY MUCH! This is important to me. I believe the President will really enjoy it.


      • Blacksmith8 says:

        No fooling, if you really want the President to see it, send it to him. It’s really that easy. Use the White House we site. It will get to him.

        Trust me.

        OTOH, I don’t regularly worry about somebody between me and President reading what I say. I know who they work for and so does he.

        One more thing, you do know the NSA captures everything here and at the White House don’t you?

        Liked by 3 people

    • C R Lord says:

      Here’s one verse from the poem that I am sure everyone here will enjoy.

      The crowds began to fill each place,
      Where Donald Trump would show his face,
      The throngs cheered loudly as he spoke,
      Relating with the common folk.

      Liked by 6 people

    • DeWalt says:

      Possibly to Donald Jr. Or Ivanka


  14. Looking at the timeline, it makes one wonder if some events were acts of vengeance.
    July 13, 2017–CNN announces that Strzok is working for Special Counsel Mueller.
    July 20, 2017–Inspector General receives compromising text messages of Strzok
    July 26, 2017–Manafort’s house is raided
    July 27, 2017–Inspector General meets with Special Counsel Mueller and Rosenstein to inform them of text messages
    Sometime in August–Richard Beckler, general counsel of GSA, hospitalized
    August 4, 2017–reports of Special Counsel Mueller using grand jury
    August 9, 2017–Washington Post runs leaked story of Manafort raid
    August 10, 2017–Inspector General requests all communication between Strzok and Page.
    August 16, 2017–Peter Strzok steps away from Special Counsel team to FBI HR office
    August 22, 2017–Fusion GPS chief Glenn Simpson meets with Congressional committee and refuses to disclose who paid for “dossier.”
    August 23, 2017–FBI sent letter to career GSA staff requesting Trump transition team documents, which were promptly released without notifying transition team.
    August 24, 2017–Intel committee chair Devon Nunes subpoenas DOJ and FBI documents related to “dossier.”
    August 30, 2017–FBI sent second letter to career GSA staff requesting Trump transition team documents, which were promptly released without notifying transition team.


  15. DanO64 says:

    The Slow Walk is done. Arrest the suckers!

    Liked by 1 person

  16. jbrickley says:

    Now I don’t claim to know the specific details of how the FBI / DOJ logs the text messages of their employees on their work issued smartphones but I can make educated guesses. There was a description explaining the loss of the messages that sounds like only one or two systems out of a whole slew of them had a failure and the IT department failed to notice the problem. That is entirely likely and plausible. However, the precise date of the failure and the date of the restoration are definitely suspicious. These systems are databases and servers and queues and load balancing and backups, etc., etc., etc. Whatever failed might not have meant the messages were no longer being captured, they were just not showing up when running queries. The archived data didn’t make it into a reporting system or database. But it was still sitting on a system in a proprietary storage mechanism. The IT Forensics team apparently found the data in the “devices” which doesn’t necessarily mean on the smartphones themselves although those are a possible source. We also don’t know if these text messages are on iPhones using iCloud or Android or perhaps they are BlackBerry Messenger texts. It’s possible that normal SMS/iCloud text messaging is disabled on these FBI / DOJ issued smartphones and that only BlackBerry Messenger is allowed precisely so the messages can be logged by the BlackBerry servers. The smartphones do not have to be BlackBerry devices because BlackBerry now does enterprise mobile solutions cross platform so it could have been iPhones and Android phones and still used BlackBerry management tools.

    All this begs the question how stupid are these people? Pretty dang stupid, that’s for dang sure. Your employer issues you a smartphone that is managed by IT? You’d better not use that like its a personal device. IT has FULL control over it and all the data. This is why Hillary didn’t want to use the State Department issued phone because she knew it wasn’t private and that she didn’t control it and because she feared the Freedom of Information Act. So as dumb as Hillary is, she’s not this stupid. The FBI Director of Counter-Intelligence had an affair with the DOJ Lawyer and exchanged communications using government controlled smartphones? Now that is really really stupid.

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  17. farmhand1927 says:

    TY, sundance for putting the Zippo at the end of the article. I, for one, really needed to see it. Whenever I see it at the end of an article, I feel very hopeful and comforted.

    Liked by 3 people

  18. phoenixRising says:

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  19. ForGodandCountry says:

    Roses are red
    Violets are blue
    Strzok and Page
    Are totally screwed

    Liked by 3 people

  20. NC Nana says:

    Premier should be removed from any description of the FBI. I would go so far as to say Investigation should be removed.

    A Premier Investigative group who cannot find electronic data in several months but an auditor can find the data in question in 2 days? No wonder people have started calling it FIB.

    Hats off to OIG Horowitz and his staff of actual investigators. They have saved the country months of Lois Lerner type angst when facing liars, incompetents, and malfeasants. Perhaps his staff could spend a week or so looking for the IRS and Clinton files. He could work wonders in restoring faith in Federal employees especially in the IT field.

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  21. “Better to remain…”


  22. scott467 says:

    “Strzok was not in a position of supervision over Lisa Page so they could encounter like rabbits to their black-hats desire if their relationship was known by FBI leaders.”


    It absolutely amazes me that these things are discussed and dismissed so cavalierly, as if it was nothing, or as if this was normal behavior. I don’t know about Strzok, but Lisa Page has children, and with Strzok’s assistance, Lisa has wrecked her children’s and her husbands lives.

    Is there not even a PRETENSE of basic decency or honor in the FIB or other institutions at this point?

    Not even considering that they opened themselves up to blackmail…

    Is there not a “morals clause” in government employee contracts?

    People ‘at the office’ can know all about an affair of this nature, and there are no consequences whatsoever?

    So if your boss at the DOJ knows that you are having an extramarital affair with a lawyer at FIB, that doesn’t even merit acknowledgment? It doesn’t merit sanction of any kind? It doesn’t merit informing the victims of the extramarital affair?

    Suppose Strzok was having sex with Rosenstein’s wife instead of the wife of some poor schlep on the D.C. merry-go-round. Do anyone suppose THAT would have caused a problem? Does anybody think Rosenstein wouldn’t have objected to a DOJ employee Strzoking his wife?

    If it would have ramifications if the woman in question was Rosenstein’s wife, what’s the difference if it is some private citizen’s wife?

    How many different standards of conduct are we talking about here, who decides, and who’s keeping track?

    The whole thing is disgusting. If this is the best we can do, if the moral standards are this ridiculously low, then the whole agency should be burned down to the ground.

    I don’t know where this idea came from — though it was popularized or mainstreamed by Bill Clinton — that personal and professional character are separate or ‘compartmentalized’, but it’s complete bull$@#% and always has been.

    It’s a shameful thing that people in our government carry on illicit affairs, wrecking homes and families, and even when it becomes common knowledge in the workplace, nobody says or does a thing about it.

    It’s shameful.

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  23. scott467 says:

    “This is exactly why the White Hats (Nunes, Grassley, Goodlatte and Horowitz) are communicating publicly. They are using public pressure, ie. outrage therein, upon the DOJ and FBI to force compliance.”


    That sounds fine, but what evidence is there, that public pressure, has any influence AT ALL on the criminals within our government?

    Corrupt government employee #1 to corrupt government employee #2: “Look at all this incriminating evidence we have sitting around the office here… no one can ever know!”

    Corrupt government employee # replies: “But there were 10,000 calls into the switchboard today… we have to turn ourselves in!”

    I don’t see that happening.

    I don’t have any reason to believe that ‘public pressure’ has any impact on corrupt government employees, at all.

    What am I missing?


  24. scott467 says:

    “The White Hat team are telling us, the public, what is going on. We are responding to what is going on. Our response to the sunlight is causing changes in behavior.”


    It’s that last part that I’m having trouble with.

    Our ‘response’, our ‘outrage’, has never caused a change of behavior before, so what’s different about now?


    • CirclingTheDrain says:


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      • scott467 says:



        So it’s the mysterious power of Twitter?

        Are the agents in question sitting at their desks, watching the Twitter post and retweet counts?

        What’s the magic number of ‘tweets’ that causes the agents ‘crack’ under the enormous pressure of the Twitter, and spill their guts like a delinquent kid (with a golden heart!) in an after school special?

        Is there any credible example of ‘public outrage’ influencing anyone in government to suddenly change their behavior and turn over evidence which implicates themselves in criminal acts?

        If it has never happened before, what makes anyone think that is happening now?

        I’m just pointing out the weakest link in the ‘narrative’. There is no evidence for the assertion, and no logic to it either. It is a pure leap of faith, riding the back of a storyline that people would like to believe.

        Pretend like I’m from Missouri.

        Show me.

        Is that too much to ask?


  25. thinkthinkthink says:

    Great new twitter thread from @nameredacted5

    “Things are happening. The deep state is trying to protect itself. The Left is trying to protect itself, and their false messiah, Obama. It isn’t going to work. The good guys are in charge and the bad guys are F’ed. Too much evidence & it can’t be disappeared.”

    “The Nunes Memo is the satchel charge that’s gonna blow the dam and cause a flood. And the DOJ IG report is going to be the nuclear weapon that destroys them. The U1 case, project Cassandra Case and the Email are follow on nukes that ensure overkill is achieved.”

    “NONE of these cases can be stopped. 1) if justice doesn’t happen, Americans armed revolt. I’m not just saying that. There is a rage at the corruption that’s been building for decades that will boil over.”

    “2) Survival of our country is threatened at every level by each one of these cases. Dir Wray, IG Horowitz, AG Sessions, & PDJT are aware. They know what’s at stake. Old rules of slaps on wrist are gone. Drastic actions to clean this up are coming. They know there’s no other way.”

    “3) if harsh, brutal examples of multiple key players don’t happen, it signals weakness to the other side and ensures they’ll try again and go further. Good guys know that too.”

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  26. scott467 says:

    “That internal (amid themselves) and external (with public) communication collaboration is needed because the entities within the DOJ and FBI are working against investigative interests.

    Those who have participated with the historic corruption within the DOJ and FBI are trying to stop oversight from exposing their activity. The oversight is smartly using public sunlight to expose the road-blocks; this approach puts the internal corruption team on their heels.”


    Hopefully, the ONLY reason they are doing it this way is to inform the public.

    Because there are MUCH more efficient and sure ways to accomplish their objective. Certainly the Attorney General can call anybody who works for the DOJ into his office and tell them to turn over whatever information is requested, or you’re fired and you lose your pension, and then I’ll have your co-worker turn over the information. And if your co-worker won’t turn over the information, I’ll fire him too, and I’ll keep firing people until this is a vacant building if need be.

    This whole idea that such machinations are necessary in order to obtain basic compliance from subordinate employees is… it’s insane, frankly.

    It makes no sense.

    You can arrest them, you can fire them, there are lots of things that you can do before you come up with a plan to force corrupt people to ‘do the right thing’ because of ‘public pressure’ which the black hats neither feel nor care about in the first place.


    • CirclingTheDrain says:

      You forget about government unions. It’s not at-will employment. You can’t just fire these people, it’s a months-long process with voluminous documentation.

      Another thing for the MAGA agenda – do away with government unions

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      • scott467 says:

        “You forget about government unions. It’s not at-will employment. You can’t just fire these people, it’s a months-long process with voluminous documentation.”


        Certainly they can be fired for cause. And if the ’cause’ is criminal, they can be arrested for cause.

        If they can be reassigned to ‘Human Resources’, they can also be reassigned to the Arctic research facility at the North Pole, which is what I would do to about 90% of our government employees, and then sit back and watch the resignations pour in.

        The people in charge, in positions of power, are not helpless or at the mercy of their employees. Never have been, never will be.

        Look at all the white hats, including generals and admirals, that Hussein purged out of the armed services. That was at the uppermost levels. Hussein nearly fired Admiral Rogers.
        Imagine how many thousands were forced out at the mid-level and lower levels.

        If they want somebody gone, they can certainly do it.


  27. G. Combs says:

    Alicia Chafetz says “….I do not understand in all of this is how Sessions can divorce himself from all that is going on.”

    Actually he did not. Remember Obama’s AG said parts of the DOJ (and FBI) were off limits to IG Horowitz. Sessions rescinded those guidelines and said SIC ‘EM BOY!

    Otherwise AG Sessions has to keep his hands completely clean of the political mess left by Obummer.

    Also AG Sessions kicked out all the top level attorneys at the DOJ except for the two President Trump kept on. In addition… SWEET SWEET NEWS!
    Geoffrey Berman, a partner of RUDY GULIANI, named US Attorney for southern district on New York. News Week — Attorney General Jeff Sessions on Wednesday named Geoffrey Berman to succeed Preet Bharara as U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York [Manhatten] on an interim basis

    Washington Compost: “Attorney General Jeff Sessions is naming 17 interim U.S. attorneys to run federal prosecutor shops across the country, including the premier office in Manhattan. Geoffrey S. Berman, a law partner of Rudolph W. Giuliani at the firm Greenberg Traurig and a former federal prosecutor, was named…”

    These are not CONFIRMED by Congress.


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