The Trademark Traymom Never Knew….

Reposted by Media Request to include the following – In a recent Miami Herald article, Sybrina Fulton, Trayvon’s Mom, reportedly stated:

Fulton said it still hurts when she hears negative things said about her son.  She wishes she had talked more about his personality, how he liked going skating, talking to girls on the phone and how he practically lived at Forzano Park in Miramar . That’s where he played football and worked in the concession stand.   (This B.S. – According to Frances Robles)

TrayMomIf the propaganda consequence(s) were not so serious this would be considered sarcastically funny.   Sybrina couldn’t talk about his [Trayvon's] personality because she didn’t know the kid™ – he did not live with her.    Trayvon™ tattooed mommy’s name on his wrist as a tribute of sorts to the mental imagery of a parent he never knew, and it was not HER name on that tattoo parlor “parental minor consent notification/permission” waiver.   Further evidenced by her obviously not knowing he™ had not played football in almost 5 years, and it had been four years since he™ stepped foot in the Miramar concession stand.  (Insert Registered Trademarked imagery here)

But then again, what’s a few minor details amid a story where you skip the fact that a 17-year-old school failure™ had flunked his FCAT’s, was not going to advance or graduate, had missed 53 days in current school year;  was known by school and police authorites to consistently cut school;  was habitually tardy when he did arrive; and was serving the third 10-day-suspension in the same school year;  on the heels of stolen jewelry, a burglary tool, and a known drug-induced lifestyle -including the use of Watermelon Drink and Skittles mixed with codeine/robitussin to make Sizzurp- which caused him to write “Fuck You” on the school lockers when he was not significantly *mellowed*.   A regular Beaver Cleaver was he….

Gee Wally, all of this while living with his uncle, Steven, who was tasked with straightening him out because the notorious lap-dance recipient TrayDaddy™ (Tracy) was torn between twerkin’ Girlfriend Brandi – who was pregnant- in Sanford, and his “ol gurl” wife of 7 years, Alicia, in Orlando; who Mr. LapDance dumped Sybrina 14 years earlier for, while he lived with his sister, Ebony, in Miami Gardens.     OK, ol boi. #StabilityFail  

THE UNFORTUNATE TRUTH IS:  17-year-old Trayvon Martin was laid to rest Saturday March 3rd…by Monday March 5th – as soon as Trayvon Family attorney Benjamin Crump organized his team of players: Daryl Parks, Natalie Jackson, Jasmine Rand -all attorneys- and Media Consultant Ryan Julison, one of the first things they did was  seek court orders to seal the School and Criminal records of Trayvon Martin, effectively blocking off Trayvon’s history from public review and media research.

An unusual strategy for representatives on a quest for truth. Most certainly not a “typical” strategy for a team concerned about honesty or truthful justice. Indeed, it appeared then, as it remains today, there was something that needed to be hidden.

Something uncomfortable they did not want the media spotlight to review, but what?

The information within Miami-Dade School Police Department, and the officers’ contacts with Trayvon Martin, may hold the key to the next discovery. All current indicators are pointing strongly in that direction.

Miami Dade Schools Police Department

It is important to note the M-DSPD had a considerable controversy erupt immediately following the Trayvon Martin shooting. Subsequently, and as a direct result, some officers within the school units filed grievances against their chief, Charles Hurley:

The Miami-Dade County Public Schools said Monday that Police Chief Charles Hurley has been reassigned while an investigation is conducted.

The investigation began after two detectives sent letters to Miami-Dade Superintendent of Schools Alberto Carvalho accusing Hurley of age discrimination, corruption and manipulation of crime statistics.

Major Gerald Kitchell is serving as acting chief of the Miami-Dade Schools Police Department and district security, schools spokesman John Schuster said in a statement.

“The school district takes all allegations very seriously. As a result, an investigation was immediately initiated when an allegation was made concerning Miami-Dade Schools Police. The district’s process follows a strict protocol that protects the complainant while ensuring due process for all, and seeks to avoid any distraction from the district’s core function,” Schuster said. “For these reasons, Chief Charles Hurley has been reassigned pending the outcome of an investigation.”

In one of the letters obtained by NBC 6, a senior detective wrote, “He asked that I reduce the number of arrests I affect of all black juveniles. I told him regardless of the race of an individual; if probable cause existed for an arrest that individual would be arrested. He was not happy with my response to his request.”

That detective also claims Hurley orders officers to send students for psychiatric treatment under the Baker Act as opposed to sending them to juvenile detention. The officer says it’s an effort to reduce the crime statistics in the district.

“I firmly believe that the crime statistics in my department are being manipulated to show a reduction in crime,” he wrote. (article)

It should be noted that following the investigation which took place, Police Chief Hurley was not “criminally charged” although he never returned to his position and was replaced by Major Gerald Kitchell, who remains in that post today.

However, this odd youth redirection scheme was not the first time Chief Hurley was, well, using “usual tactics.” Previously Chief Hurley literally unloaded his Glock handgun in a meeting to “call out the underperformers“, and send a message.

But when you are in Miami-Dade facing the Race-baiting community daily, and if you are effective at stemming their accusations, even the School District Superintendent Alberto Carvalho doesn’t really see a problem:

“We will be reviewing this issue,” he said. “But we are going to do it in the context of three back-to-back years of double-digit reductions of critical incidents in schools and a 35 percent reduction in arrests in schools.”


The allegations against Hurley bring up a key issue facing many who have followed the tentacles of the Trayvon shooting and subsequent racial movements; namely, the extreme pressure by all factions of the Black Civil Rights activist movement onto law enforcement, and educational leadership, to diminish the consequences and corrections afforded to young black males for their behavior.

Jesse Jackson - FloridaIndeed, it was Jesse Jackson who said in April at a Trayvon Martin rally that school suspensions were adversely affecting black male students, and further implied that school discipline itself was inherently racist.

Jackson also said Martin’s case illustrated the high number of black students who are suspended from school. A report issued by the U.S. Department of Education last month found that black students are more than three times as likely as their white peers to be suspended or expelled. Martin had been suspended from school for having a baggie that contained marijuana residue shortly before he was killed. (link)

Jackson requested a greater level of tolerance toward intolerable behavior because black boys were receiving a disproportionate amount of the punishment in relation to their percentage within the student community. Of course, once again all of this ignores behavior.

Don’t discipline the thuggery; don’t address the behavior; just put up with it or lower the expectation appears to be the resounding message. Black boys just can’t control themselves is the unspoken narrative, even by the President of The United States.

More recently the same considerations have been leveraged nationally with quotas being suggested for school punishments.

Was this the same politically correct mindset infecting the work within the Miami-Dade *School* Police Dept.? From the allegations made against Chief Hurley, by officers within his unit, this would appear to be the case. The application of Political Correctness, once again running amok.

Now, taken in the abstract this may seem unrelated, but as with all things surrounding this case, more questions arise than are ever answered. Was Trayvon Martin one of those “manipulated redirected statistics?” Was his contact with M-DSPD the reason for sealing Trayvon’s records? Could Trayvon have been one of the kids redirected into medical (psychiatric) treatment to avoid the juvenile justice system, and subsequently avoid another statistic of a black youth being disciplined for behavioral issues?

Only this time, unfortunately for the M-DSPD Chief, one of the re-directed “kids” became a national story – and subsequently a dangerous optic if revealed.

One of the things about Political Correctness, or more appropriately described as ‘Cultural Marxism’ is what happens after the consequences from its stealth-riddled application become visible in the national spotlight. Consider, a uncomfortably behaving, and generally psychotic, muslim military doctor is never addressed until he becomes The Shooter At Fort Hood and innocent people are killed. The cause as determined by the investigation that followed? Political Correctness, and people in authority fearful of addressing the unusual or antisocial behavior.

Is the story of Trayvon Martin the same or similar consequence to political correctness? Was, and is, the Miami-Dade School Police Department infected with PC running amok? All signs appear to be pointing in this general direction.

Consider what is factually known – against the back drop of what was stated:

      • We know Trayvon missed 53 days of school in a school year only half over.
      • We know Trayvon was suspended from school three times in the school year only half over (2011-2012).
      • We know Trayvon was specifically engaged in drug use and the culture thereof since at least the summer of 2010, and was prolific prior to school start (August 2011).
      • We know on at least one occasion Trayvon was found in school with unidentified jewelry and what officials described as a burglary tool.
      • We know Trayvon was found with drug paraphernalia in school and disciplined.
      • We know officers within the Miami-Dade School Police Dept were under pressure to find alternate ways to direct black offenders away from the criminal justice system.
      • We know Trayvon had encounters with these School Police Officers.
      • …And finally we know Trayvon was not physically living with Mom or Dad prior to the final suspension (outlined below).
      • We also know family attorney Benjamin Crump immediately moved to seal all of Trayvon’s records. Even before Trayvon’s Mom, Sybrina, had stepped foot in Sanford to present the boy-child skittles narrative.

Was this anti-social behavior and the subsequent lack of willingness to tackle head on, the reason why early on in this narrative there were so many disconnected and disparate stories?

CONSIDER WHERE TRAYVON LIVED – From the very beginning the descriptions of Trayvon Martin by his parents did not make sense. Listening to questions of Tracy and Sybrina, and their answers – their responses were often disconnected, contradictory and, well, just odd in their lack of depth.

One example is this early interview with Sybrina Fulton, Trayvon’s mother. Note this is very early on before the media handler (Ryan Julison) took control of the scripting, and made sure Tracy and Sybrina appeared together.

Another example was about 2 months later when Sybrina travelled to London, England and was questioned again. Even months later, when asked the same or similar general questions, she just never seemed to be able to describe Trayvon. Very odd.

Additionally odd was this: upon hearing of Trayvon’s death Sybrina never left North Dade (Fort Lauderdale) to travel to Sanford. She stayed home. The first time she actually went to Sanford was to attend a press conference on March 8th.

Also, Sybrina was unable to describe Trayvon’s likes or dislikes. She gave conflicting information about his favorite foods, sports, and things he enjoyed. Sybrina said Trayvon loved basketball, but Trayvon told everyone in his social network he disliked basketball.

When asked about his favorite meal Sybrina said Trayvon liked Fried Chicken; the next time she said hamburgers, and yet another time she described something totally different.

Sybrina told investigators she did not know that Trayvon had a twitter account, and she did not know his name on Facebook. Sybrina Fulton knew nothing about Trayvon’s U-Tube account, his following of Mixed Martial Art combat fighting, or his home-made movies from street fights to video’s of his cousin.

On the morning she found out he was shot, she sat in the parking lot of her work for a few minutes then drove home – and stayed there.

sybrina familyAll of these are just unusual examples of odd and disconnected descriptions for a parent who was sold to the public as incredibly close to her son and devastated. And when you look at the pictures of Sybrina with Trayvon, there are always other people in them, and in all of them as a general sense it’s usually Trayvon’s half-brother Jahvaris who seems closest to his mom.

We have fully documented how something changed in Trayvon, something troubling. A serious and rapid downward spiral in behavior and it is well noted during the time period from October 2010 (trouble with Dad), to Summer 2011 (significant drug use), to the last year of school August 2011 through Feb 2012 when he missed 53 days of school, was suspended three times, and the last suspension was a serious enough violation to warrant 10 days suspension out of school.

There’s  just something about the story of Trayvon and his mom; and his mom’s behavior not matching the story being sold. Then we read this recent article in esquire magazine and something stuck out. Something that connected numerous dots in describing exactly what was going on.

He was growing so fast, he’d stretched out like a rubber band, 158 pounds on a five-eleven frame, so long and thin everyone teased him: Boy, you too skinny to take a breath.

He was wearing the hoodie he always wore, lost in his music like he always was. People teased him about that, too. Next door to his uncle Stephen’s house, a modest ranch house where he often spent the night, lived an old lady who called him Mouse. (link)

This relatively demure comment actually clicked in with another piece of the puzzle from earlier. THIS is a radio interview given by Trayvon’s aunt, Ebony Martin Mcclain, who is Tracy Martin’s sister, on the Rickey Smiley Show. The full radio interview is available here, but we have copied the audio onto U-Tube format so that you can listen to it here.

Do you hear what Aunt Ebony is saying?

Trayvon was NOT living with his mom. Trayvon was NOT living with his dad. Trayvon was living with his uncle, Stephen Martin, a former Marine, and his wife “Aunt Miriam, in Miami Gardens.

Miriam previously described Trayvon’s living arrangements as:

She’s [Miriam] known Trayvon since the day he was born. He spent as much time at their house as he did anywhere else. (link)

Uncle Stephen’s son (Trayvon’s cousin), Stephen “Boobie” Martin, was Trayvon’s best friend. Boobie is who travelled to Sanford to visit Trayvon at Brandy Green’s condo in The Retreat at Twin Lakes the final weekend. It was Trayvon and Boobie who attended Brandy’s son’s football game that Saturday night then all three drove back to Brandy’s condo. “Boobie” left the following morning (Sunday).

Tracy Martin 2 Tracy Martin 4-18-12

We know Trayvon’s Dad, Tracy Martin, (pictured above) was living with his sister Ebony Martin Mcclain, as noted in the radio interview, also in Miami Gardens. However, Tracy was reported to be considering a permanent move to live with girlfriend Brandy Green and her son, Chad, in Sanford. *Brandy Green is, or was, pregnant with Tracy’s child.

[ You also need to remember Tracy was still married to Alicia Martin - the "step-mom" from the Dr. Phil show. Tracy and Alicia Martin had been together for 14 years and married for 7 Poor Alicia is by all considerations "The Forgotten Woman"]

Tracy Martin CRIP

Tracy Martin (Trayvon Dad) Far Right

The discussions of Trayvon moving to Sanford had already taken place:

Last night he [Trayvon] had a long talk with DeWayne, his buddy from pee-wee football. DeWayne asked what he was doing.

Just chillin’ with my ol’ boy, Trayvon said. Trayvon’s dad was dating a woman who lived there, a woman named Brandy, and it was looking serious. If he had to change high schools again to move up there, he said, it would be a’ight. (link)

But one thing is certain, at the time Trayvon was shot he WAS NOT living with Sybrina Fulton, his mom. NOR was he permanently residing with his dad, Tracy.

Now folks on the ground in/around Trayvon’s High School have provided the specific information as to why he did not live with his mom. However, until that is confirmed, and some additional measures are taken, we will leave it out of the outline.

The behavioral challenges of Trayvon during that winter school session might have led to the decision to put him in the care, custody and guardianship, of his uncle, who by all manner of evaluation, Trayvon did listen to and respect. Trayvon’s dad, Tracy, was separated from his wife of seven years Alicia Martin, and his girlfriend in Sanford, Brandy, was pregnant. Meanwhile he loved him some ‘twerkin’ lap dances.

But Trayvon was NOT living with Sybrina (mom) or Tracy (dad) during the time prior to the trip to Sanford.

So now, given the revelation of additional facts, and with the hindsight of the TRUTH, do these previous interviews make more sense now?

Certainly all the disparate stories and disconnection now makes sense. It was all just a ruse to create an impression, a false impression.

The reason Sybrina could not describe Trayvon, was because she did not know Trayvon. Not in the same sense the attorneys and media consultants were framing her. This is why early on the entire narrative seemed so disjointed.

The family lawyers, The Scheme Team, were selling a Trayvon family that never existed. Trayvon neither lived with Sybrina or Tracy. He was a portable troubled teen who was living with his uncle who was trying to straighten him out.

It is beyond sad that ultimately, in order not to reflect the typical example of black teen crisis in America the family, or their handlers, felt they needed to script a false story line for the media. AND worse yet, the media could not even ask the questions to bring the truth forth. The media just left those blazing irreconcilable conversations and statements by the scheme team float in the air like dangling participles…..

None of this changes the substance of the case against George Zimmerman; however, it does reflect a particular character trait, and expose the agenda of the family attorneys.

That falsely constructed story is profoundly wrong.

Trayvon 7-11

They have created this fairy tale story around a 12-year-old little boy named Trayvon Martin. That person never existed in the life of George Zimmerman. Mr. Zimmerman met a 17-year-old troubled teen with anger issues, who liked to portray himself as player inside the thug culture, just like his school discipline records will reflect.

The truth will always come out – eventually…. it always does.

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103 Responses to The Trademark Traymom Never Knew….

  1. brutalhonesty says:

    Amazingly large amount of information contained. too bad the trayvonites deflect by acting like the treehouse makes it all up, as opposed to merely reporting research and providing links and such to prove the research and the conclusion. I have yet to be told one thing the treehouse made up…other than the bus driver and the rape, which I personally saw before I know of the treehouse, on trayvon and stephens own social medias and personally screen shot. They still tell me the treehouse made it up, and none want to tell me how the treehouse made up the tweets that stephen is proven to have made…and they wont tell me why stephen said those things if they are not true…they just say “lol twitter” and “lol the treehouse”…its beyond annoying, and it is willful ignorance that is visible to all.

  2. czarowniczy says:

    Talk about coincidences, I was talking to a friend of mine, a retired Miami-Metro date detective, just as I opened this. Being told to reduce the number of arrests you make as a cop isn’t unusual, I’ve been told that, it’s one of the ways politicians use to artificially lower the crime stats.

  3. sundance says:

    Miami Dade area is a National Demonstration Project Area for Juvenile Crime Diversion Programs.
    The Post-Arrest Diversion (PAD) is the most critical component of the National Demonstration Project. First and foremost, it provides the JAC with a process that is independent from the normal way an arrested juvenile enters into the system.

    • Josh says:

      “Juvenile Crime Diversion Programs” = divert the truth via numbers

      • Chip Bennett says:

        “Juvenile Crime Diversion Programs” = divert the truth via numbers

        Technically speaking, neither does juvenile detention; it merely delays the problem.

        The only thing that will actually fix the problem is raising kids in a God-fearing household with a married mother and father.

  4. sundance says:

    US Department of Justice
    Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention
    Deinstitutionalization of Status Offenders Best Practices Database
    Miami-Dade Civil Citation Initiative

  5. eastern2western says:

    It is funny that dad goes around the country telling everyone about how the 9 year old trayvon pull his paralyzed body out of the fire, but patricia martin told phil that trayvon is 160 lbs with no muscles.

  6. Sentenza says:

    Why does Sybrina never like to talk about how her son liked to beat up random strangers on the street?

    • ytz4mee says:

      IMO, Sybrina Fulton is a shameless lying whore whom I have no sympathy for. She signed up because she was convinced Trayvon’s death could be made into “something profitable” (her words) and styles herself as the next civil rights “icon” a la Rosa Parks.

      She can lie, she can dodge, she can equivocate, but at the end of the day, the truth is going to come out about Trayvon’s thug propensities and history of violence and drug use. I am actually surprised that his “true” juvenile record with the law has not been leaked, since these records are part of national data bases available to a wide variety of paying clientele.

      • jello333 says:

        I’m gonna say this again, in the vain hope that one of the family reads it and comes to their senses, and realize how they’re exploiting and insulting Trayvon. The only person in that family who was even halfway honest about him was the cousin. While everyone else seems like they couldn’t care less what Trayvon himself would have wanted. So listen up Tracy, Sybrina, and the rest: The LIES you’ve been spreading about Trayvon are an insult to him. No way would he be happy with you all talking about what a sweet “child” he was, or how he was “scared” and just trying to “run home with his candy”, and all that. I venture to say he would be more than a little disgusted, and VERY angry at you all for doing that. And to make matters worse you go on your trashcan tours and beg for money in the name of Trayvon… all the while you CONTINUE to lie. When are you gonna stop this? You just keep on and on and on… You should all be ashamed.

        • justfactsplz says:

          A round of applause for you!

        • Justice4All says:

          This is funny. Trayvon wanted nothing more in life than to have street cred and to have everybody think he was tough and hardcore. Funny that they painted an image of him in death as a little girly boy running away with a bag of candy.

          Not a single 17 year old boy in the world would want to be painted as a cowardly little girl in his death. I would rather be found butt naked on the crapper than to be portrayed as a wuss when I was 17.

          • Justice4All says:

            I should also add that a 17 yo boy would never tell a girl on the phone that he was scared.

          • dmoseylou says:

            “…butt naked on the crapper…”

            Oh, the memories and laughs you brought back to me with that. Thanks!
            Toilet Bomb – Lethal Weapon 2

          • jello333 says:

            Exactly. And they really do NOT seem to care that they’re doing that to him. What’s gonna happen when his friends start to finally show their faces, and call Tracy and Sybrina out? Heh… that may not actually happen, but I’d pay big money to see it.

    • justfactsplz says:

      Yes, that seemed to be one of his favorite pastimes.

  7. jordan2222 says:

    Wow.. a lot of time and research went into this.

  8. myopiafree says:


    The Zimmermans focus much of their ire on Benjamin Crump, the civil rights attorney whose constant media exposure forced law enforcement to take a second look at the case. Crump, who has filed a claim with the homeowners association where Zimmerman served as crime watch coordinator, has yet to bill in the case. Neither has Zimmerman’s defense team.

    Crump thinks back on the furor, the day marchers shut down Broadway, the rallies in Sanford, the dozens of Miami-Dade schools where students walked out in protest, and feels no regret. He said history has shown that when blacks are killed by whites, particularly whites acting in a law-enforcement capacity, the only way to get a case going is by turning to the media.

    In the months since Trayvon’s death, Crump has taken on at least three more similar cases.

    “Little brown boys and little brown girls get killed and nobody cares until we make a fuss,” Crump said. “They were so comfortable sweeping it under the rug like they didn’t matter.”
    This is indeed Crump’s “Mantra”. A large percentage of Southern “Whites” think it is OK to run after, and “gun down” cute little “Black Boys”. That’s Crump’s story – and he is “sticking to it” regardless of how many fibs, distortions, “coached” witnesses, and “thug riots” he must conduct to “get his way”.

    • jello333 says:

      Oh my God…. we’ve got another reincarnated historic figure on our hands. First Trayvon was Emmitt Till. Then Sybrina was Rosa Parks. And now Crump is Martin Luther King.

      “Little brown boys and little brown girls…”

      “… little black boys and little black girls join hands with little white boys and little white girls…”

  9. sundance says:

    New York State 2009 [Wansley Waters Director of Miami Dade Juvenile Services Dept.] Interview:

    Guistina: Let s go back now, for a second. Forgive me, we got ahead of ourselves here because I want to really set the stark contract between what was going on in Florida before this model came to be, and it starts with a name. Martin Lee Anderson. Can you talk about that, and the boot camps versus the academies, for a second?

    Walters: Well, That is a very painful thing for people in the juvenile justice system to discuss in the State of Florida. And there was a just for people who don t know about Martin Lee Anderson, he was in a boot camp that was being operated by a Sheriff s Department. And, he was engaging in physical activity and something began to go very, very wrong, and what ultimately happened was, being restrained forcefully by the Deputy Sheriffs, he ended up dying. And it was a tragic event, it was particularly painful for us in Miami, because we had this young man had been arrested and put into this boot camp because he was joyriding in his grandmother s car while she was sitting in church.

    And in Miami we don t detain children for that. But in this particular part of Florida he was put into this boot camp and, even under the direct vision of a nurse, he was not able to breathe and he ultimately died. And it is extremely painful, and I know there s been some similar type tragic events that have happened in New York State.

    Guistina: But of course that led to the Martin Lee Anderson Act; maybe you could talk about what that is, and then maybe talk about the Star Sheriff Training and Respect program.

    Walters: Boot camps have always been fairly controversial, particularly when you are putting thirteen, fourteen, fifteen-year olds in them,. They might serve a purpose preparing young men of adult age to go into the military, but when you’re talking about thirteen, fourteen year olds, it s an approach that many people believe, myself included, to not be a particularly productive approach. But it was an avenue that was being used by several Sheriff s Departments in the State of Florida. We did not have it available in Miami-Dade. One of the things that did come out of this terrible tragic event was the elimination of the boot camp concept. So that now any law enforcement agency having a program that works with juveniles must base it upon the needs of the child; assessment and service-driven, and respect for the children, where the children are treated with respect and they are taught to respect in return.

    Guistina: So no physical or mental intimidation.

    Walters: No, not at all

    Guistina: Another aspect of this of course was you had to get people to buy into it. And you went the route of police chiefs, right? Talk about that. How do you get different groups to buy into these solutions and go with it? You could easily stereotype and say lots of police officers say hang em high; that’s a no goodnik, that’s a no-good kid

    Walters: We have 37 police departments in Miami-Dade County, and also instead of an elected Sheriff in Miami-Dade, we have an appointed Police Director who operates a county-wide police department with nine district stations, so you could almost say we have almost forty different individual departments.

    Guistina: Sound familiar, New Yorkers?

    Walters: And one of the things that from the very beginning, because I happened to be working at the police department, I was for the Police Director I was one of the people who were able to be a part of the original group putting the Juvenile Assessment Center together. Now at that time we determined that the average amount of time that an officer spent off the road processing a juvenile was about six hours of down time. Because of the protections in place for juveniles,
    these 37 or 40 different locations, if the detention center would not accept the juvenile, or if they were not arrested for something, it was up to that police officer to find a responsible adult and not commingle that juvenile with any the adults. So many times you have police officers off the road for many hours, more than six hours, with a child handcuffed to a chair, trying to find a relative, trying to find a responsible adult to take custody of the juvenile.

    And there is a legendary young man in Miami-Dade County who kept an officer on overtime for eighteen hours, insisting that his name was Donald Duck. And they could not do anything but just sit there with him, and of course no other officers wanted to take custody of him so the arresting officer was ruing ever laying eyes on this kid. But he sat there for eighteen hours until he became bored enough to actually tell them who he was because he was ready to go home at that time…

    • sundance says:


      A guard at a juvenile prison found herself behind bars this week after she was caught on tape battering a teenage detainee.

      Although the encounter got Shannon Linn Abbott arrested, it didn’t get her fired. The 33-year-old bailed out and was back on the job right afterward and supervising children, to the extreme dismay of the Department of Juvenile Justice. [...]

      “We are deeply concerned that the incident, as depicted in the video . . . contradicts its description to us by officials representing the facility,” Wansley Walters, DJJ secretary, said of the Aug. 9 incident. “We are also troubled that the facility did not officially report the incident to DJJ until two days after it occurred, and only when the victim called the [Department of Children & Families] abuse hotline. This lapse is inexplicable.”

      According to a police report, the 15-year-old detainee, who is not identified, was being escorted by Abbott, who was holding the girl’s elbows as they walked. Most of what occurred during the alleged assault was captured by DJJ surveillance cameras, which are installed in most youth facilities.

      The tape shows the guard slamming the 15-year-old face-first against a concrete wall, then throwing her on the floor, face down, and sitting on top of her for several minutes.

      A second woman assists, sitting on the teenager’s legs for several minutes.

      Read more here: (and a video inside link)

    • sundance says:

      The woman driving the Florida Juvenile Justice Department toward a goal of “system excellence” is a 2012 winner of an international award that recognizes commitment to children’s justice.

      “We’re trying to do a complete paradigm shift,” said Wansley Walters, Secretary of the Florida DJJ and one of eight recipients of the 2012 Juvenile Justice Without Borders International Award, presented by theInternational Juvenile Justice Observatory, a Belgium-based international organization that works in conjunction with the United Nations, the European Union and other groups.

      “We’re trying to be proactive, not reactive,” she said.

      Walters came to the DJJ nearly two years ago from theMiami-Dade County Juvenile Services Department. There she pushed to keep most kids in treatment or diversion programs, leaving secure beds and police records only for the most serious, risky offenders.

      That program attracted observers from as far away as Thailand, who used some of Miami’s principles in their own national juvenile justice reforms. Indeed, Thailand’s national agency in charge of juvenile justice won an IJJO award as well.

      Other winners of the biennial prize include activists and researchers based in Europe and Africa. An honorary award was given to Georges Loinger, a Jewish teacher during World War II who escaped from Nazi captivity and smuggled hundreds of Jewish youngsters into safety in Switzerland.

      Wouldn’t want the pesky Trayvon Martin case to blow up the awards and accolades for the Department of Juvenile Justice diversionary program. Lot’s of political credibility at local, state, and National levels, at stake here folks.

      Miami-Dade Schools Police Dept program/sunlight avoidance making more sense now ?

    • sundance says:

      Follow The Money:

      [...] Drawing a harsh evaluation was PRIDE, the state’s prison industries organization, which pays its president and two lobbyists more than $521,000 annually, while maintaining 56 employees paid more than $50,000 annually on its payroll, according to Scott advisers. The team acknowledged that PRIDE has been targeted for elimination or sweeping change by several state review panels, but has managed to endure.

      The department’s inspector general also was recommended for movement out of DOC and into a more independent role – possibly in the office of the governor. Two youth boot camps, Sumter and Lowell, were earmarked for closure by Scott’s advisers.

      • yankeeintx says:

        You mention “follow the money”. So if a kid gets Baker Acted, it must be saving LE depts money. If the kids are then turned over to the Department of Children and Families, then private insurance companies, medicaid, and the families who are able to pay, are being billed for the costs. This could actually be a money maker for DCF, while saving money for LE services. In addition to skewing statistics, it is probably a money maker/saver for the state, so it is a win/win for them. I wonder how much a Doctor/Counselor working for DCF bills a private insurance company for an intake invaluation that is unnecessary?

        • sundance says:

          Yes, but the state contracts @ $5k+ per kid to private contractors who coordinate the diversion program is a pretty lucrative deal. And where there is that much $$$$ you can guarantee kickbacks and referalls are part of the quid-pro-quo equation. :(

          • kathyca says:

            The entire system is run like that. Think of all the completely ineffectual substance abuse counseling sentenced as part of a plea. Anger management – same. Parenting counselors — same (with a huge multiplier). I could go on. As always about the $$$.

            • jello333 says:

              And I can tell you from personal experience, most of the people running those programs, and the judges that hand out the “sentences”, couldn’t care less about the kids and young adults they’re dealing with. It DOES seem very much about the money, and it’s nothing more than a kabuki played between the “drug courts” and the more typical jail/prison system. I don’t wanna paint it with TOO broad a brush, because there are a few good people involved. But they’re most definitely rowing against the current.

          • yankeeintx says:

            Sybrina’s dad was a retired Miami-Dade cop. There is a lot of camaraderie between cops and cop families. They probably cut Trayvon a lot of slack, even though he never knew his grandfather. George might be adding the State of Florida to his list, if Trayvon was ever evaluated, but then cut loose because of Sybrina or his soon to be new stepmom Brandi, a juvie officer.

            • sundance says:

              I am certain Trayvon was “redirected”. 100% certain.

              It is also why Sybrina NEVER LEFT Fort Lauderdale when she found out Trayvon was shot dead. It was NOT that big a surprise to her. She drove home and stayed there, never once thinking about going to Sanford.

              Now people will say “don’t judge her” based on what she did not do after she found out. What-friggin’-ever. Common Sense – Go ask any, and I do mean ANY parent, what would they do if they found out their son/daughter was shot 150 miles away?

              Go ask. Take a poll of 100 people. They would all tell you they’d jump in their car and head to where it happened. Immediately. It is BS to claim otherwise, unless there is something else associated with Trayvon, that led her mind to the place where it was just not important.

              Common Sense.

              Sybrina did not know Trayvon because Trayvon was in a diversionary program and NOT living with her. The switches in schools, the attempts by her to half-heartedly change his behaviors had failed miserably – he was an OOC 17-year-old, known by School PD as a drug dealing gang member etc.

              • jello333 says:

                No doubt. You could look at 100 people, and how they reacted to situations such as this, and 90% of them would have been on the road within minutes. And the other 10%?… the only reason they didn’t leave is because they were so emotionally destroyed that they couldn’t function. But I can’t imagine ANY caring parent just sitting home and doing nothing if they were even remotely capable of going.

                And another thing, which I keep thinking about… the total silence from all Trayvon’s “friends” and associates is deafening. I can’t quite place my finger on what’s going on. I’m assuming MOM, or more likely Don, have been in contact with more than a few of them. But just the fact that they’ve all managed to stay so quiet publicly… just feels really bizarre to me.

                • sundance says:

                  Indeed. However, I am relatively certain a few of those within his circle have indeed made statements, just not public ones. AND the media avoided seeking them out like the plague…. But at least three have spoken about M-DSPD contacts. (leave it there).

                  Also, add to your bizarro list of common sense attributes for intellectual honesty. What is the one question that a person grieving always falls toward? The last conversation.

                  The last thing he said was…….
                  The last thing we talked about was……
                  The last time I saw him we……..

                  Yet, from Sybrina? (((crickets)))

                  Common sense.

                  • arkansasmimi says:

                    +1. Also as I have said before. I just cant get over “not having recent pix or video” in this day of cell phones. There is A LOT not being said, and the media doesnt want to know, that wouldnt go with their line of coverage.

                • howie says:

                  I think they might be waiting for Corey to finally fold. Even she might, when the kitchen gets too hot. The formal defense investigation may do the trick. But, she may hang on til the bitter end.

              • ftsk420 says:

                I agree any parent would hop in the car and travel 1000 miles to see their kid.

                • arkansasmimi says:

                  Exactly!!! If coworkers would give their vac time, I am so sure they would have made sure she got there if it had been a financial prob. IMHO

                  • jello333 says:

                    Yep. I have an online friend who I’ve never met, who awhile back had to travel a couple hundred miles to see his Mom who was in the hospital. He took off to go there even though he barely had the money for gas to get there, let alone come back. So I and other of his online friends told him not to sweat it… if he needed money when it was time to come back, we’d get some to him. And these are all people who have never met each other in person. NO DOUBT Sybrina’s friends would have done whatever need be to help her get to Sanford. (And yeah, I’m fully aware that $$ was NOT the reason she didn’t go.)

                  • arkansasmimi says:

                    I also have some online friends whom I wouldnt doubt for a second who would do the same Jello, if at all possible. I commend you and yours for that. I also doubt that they would have done whatever, I mean dang look how much time was given! Which brings up, maybe I missed it, does anyone know if TrayMom ever even went back to work?

  10. LouDaJew says:

    KIt Darrant was a nice kid too when he was 12. Trayvon’s best friend (as Kit’s mom told many) before he sliced her up.

    • ytz4mee says:

      Yep, Kit and Traydemark were “best friends”, except that Kit’s mother didn’t like Kit hanging out with Trayvon because TRAYVON was a “bad influence”. Let that sink in. A kid who killed his own mother, and lived with her decomposing corpse for days, was the “good” kid in the Kit-Trayvon friendship.

    • sundance says:

      If you really want to get *twitchy*….. consider this “coincidence”. The Juvenile Assessment Center program (Miami-Dade School Police Dept) that is outlined above was set to roll out into various symposiums to train/educate others in the system of Juvenile diversion programs. Look at the states/cities where it was rolled:

      State to Host Juvenile Justice Forums – The NYS Division of Criminal Justice Services (DCJS) will be holding two forums to present innovative ways to provide early intervention to young offenders who are at high risk for ongoing delinquency. The two symposia will discuss Juvenile Assessment Centers (JACs) as a potential front end juvenile justice system reform that can help communities throughout New York State handle juveniles in more cost effective ways.

      Juvenile Assessment Center models from Miami-Dade, Fl; Chicago, IL; Connecticut and Colorado will be presented to provide insight on how to address the early stages of delinquent behavior by doing assessments and referrals to service providers at a central location upon initial arrest.

      Take a Deep Breath and Look at that again. 2011 Symposium on Juvenile Diversion program Assessments on delinquent behavior all by similarly minded service providers in the following four areas: Miami-Dade, Chicago, Colorado, Connecticut. What do they all have in common 2012 ?

      Miami-Dade = Trayvon Martin
      Chicago IL = Highest density Juvenile handgun use
      Colorado = Aurora Movie Theater Shooting – James Holmes
      Connecticut = Sandy Hook / Newtown Shooting – Adam Lanza

      What are the odds?

      Coinkydink? you decide…..

    • hooson1st says:

      is there an url for that?

  11. jello333 says:

    “Reposted by Media Request…”


    • sundance says:

      As I once shared with Diwataman, the best thing that can ever happen to our research is when the legacy media trys to disprove it.

      You cannot deconstruct the Truth, it exists all by itself.

      I welcome, heck, I cherish and joyfully request, any media enterprise to shred this information or to at least go on a mission to prove its inaccuracy. It is all cited, referenced, backed up, and painstakenly assembled. If any media can take it apart and expose is as NOT factual – Go for it….

      Every statement stands by itself in the brightest sunlight. The opinion aspect is only created after the assembly of the facts. If someone can align the facts to come up with a differing opinion – again, Go for it…..

      This ain’t guess work. This is cited and referenced research. Every bit of it is available to any person or person(s) with an interest.

      • Sharon says:

        You do realize, SD, how incredibly confusing it is for Dark Dwellers to try to deal with a Light Walker. Sometimes it’s hard to know whether to laugh or cry….

      • jello333 says:

        I’ve noticed that about you. One of the common traits of the best researchers and scientists is openness, and willingness to have others delve into their work. They WANT other researchers and scientists (and just “average” people) to TRY to prove them wrong. I see a lot of that in you.

      • rooferx says:

        Great post!

  12. LouDaJew says:

    oh, one more thing, Trayvon actually lived with his uncle!

  13. LouDaJew says:

    also notice how Robles left out the marijuana pipe that Trayvon had in the initial report. the marijuana pipe seems to have disappeared from her reporting.

  14. LouDaJew says:

    the marijuana pipe was mentioned here

    look at all those posts the Trayvon apologists flagged. the truth has no agenda.

    • kathyca says:

      I’ve always found it ridiculous that they think someone an empty bag of weed is better than a full one. What do they think happened to what was in the bag? I’d forgotten about the pipe, altogether. Thx

      • ftsk420 says:

        I agree the residue just means he smoked it already. I don’t know how the laws work in Florida but I know in NY especially in a school marijuana residue would get you in a lot of trouble. The pipes I seriously doubt was brand new and unused so that would have been another charge.

        • LetJusticePrevail says:

          Yes, the pipe would have been a separate, and more serious paraphernalia charge. Funny how the “pipe” seems to have disappeared from the story now…

    • Libby says:

      da pipe went with the baggie (and the weed that was likely in it when it was confiscated). they can help their crime stats by emptying any baggies of drugs they find (that way they will only be charged with the baggie and not the drugs). I really think in my heart of hearts that trayvon was not cuaght with an empty baggie (he would have tossed that on the ground). oh, he was carrying it home cuz he didnt litter? yeah, that was so in line with his character, not

      • jello333 says:

        You all know what I think about weed…. just legalize the stuff, already! But no, I don’t think it should be allowed in schools (even if the students aren’t minors, like say at a college). Still though, what shocks me most about the “baggie” story is that someone, ANYONE, would actually go to school carrying a bag full of weed (and I agree, at some point it probably WAS full). I mean, you can NOT be thinking even remotely straight and do that. Maybe forget you have your one-hitter in your pocket or something?… yeah, maybe. But a whole bag of weed? Wow. It makes me think that Travyon was pretty much “out of it” mentally 90% of the time.

      • ftsk420 says:

        If there is residue in the bag and the cops test it you will be charged with possession. I wonder what type of bag it was in because if it was one of those little zip lock bags he could have been charged with intent to distribute.

  15. czarowniczy says:

    I have stayed away from the entire GZ train wreck for months now, I knew that if the POtuS’s reign was extended this thing was going to become and endless black hand-wringing Greek tragedy that would deviate even further from the story of a search for justice and down the dark path of and endless racial soap opera. Jessie J and Sharpton take on the part of twin black Wagners, telling and retelling the saga of the African-American diaspora, a lot like the Ring Cycle but longer and more boring and with less truth. The Tray-d-mark is of little interest to them other than as a tool – had he have been brought to the hospital and revived I can see the you-know-whos trying to sneak in and put a pillow over his face so they wouldn’t lose their next black cause célèbre. The herds of urban whites going through what they consider the appropriate and PC responses to the endless drumbeat of white-guilt charges may actually be starting to believe some of the garbage they’re being fed. In any event I’m praying for an end to this as I’m running short of Xanax, Prilosec and vodka. Will someone either lynch this guy or set him free but PLEASE PLEASE stop roasting him over a slow fire for your own political ends.

    • Sharon says:

      “Will someone either lynch this guy or set him free but PLEASE PLEASE stop roasting him over a slow fire for your own political ends”

      Who are you speaking to here? The racialists are not going to give up their roast just because they’re asked nicely. They’ve got a whole lot of money, personal bios, career plans, and resume enhancements tied up in this mess.

      • czarowniczy says:

        Just repeating the moans by the many of us who are so frustrated that we’re ready to take up a collection and get enough money to buy the entire traveling Trademarked circus off. I do believe that as long as the cash keeps flowing in the bullsh$t will keep flowing out.

    • jello333 says:

      “roasting him over a slow fire for your own political ends”

      Very good. That’s a very good description of what they’re doing to George.

      • czarowniczy says:

        They’d add more coals but the desire to torture the white-guilt-ridden public is too alluring. Try this on one of the black shooters that are out there and see how far one gets.

        • jello333 says:

          I agree with most of what you said in your other comments, including about political theatre. And of course a huge part of that is the racial grievance industry, which includes people (not all black, by the way) who WANT AND NEED racism to thrive in this country… it’s their bread and butter. THEY are the worst racists around, if you ask me. But you mentioned this getting to a trial… nope, I can’t see that. Not gonna get past the immunity hearing (or the appeal of a bad decision there). But this has long ago moved beyond just being about George and his eventual exoneration. It has to go further than that. For something good to come out of this, there MUST be repercussions to the conspirators. I’m not naive enough to think that every single one of them, up to the highest levels of government, are gonna be held accountable. But even if only some of the lower-lever minions, plus some major media players are punished for their evil deeds, this could go a long way toward ending this kind of race-baiting injustice once and for all. So yeah, getting George off the hook is just one step in this process. How will it all turn out? We shall see….

          • czarowniczy says:

            The racial grievance industry is a great term, racism has become less of an offensive term than a trademark. The trial is a pipe dream, the Usual Suspect Jerks want this to drag out until they’ve milked this specific incident dry. I can see an acquittal followed by people aggrieved at the injustice of it all smashing windows and stealing TVs and expensive shoes. At this point I believe that even if a court acquits GZ he’ll be wrecked forever, dross from the Great Game.

    • justfactsplz says:

      Oh no you didn’t!

      • czarowniczy says:

        Oh yez I de-id. If there were questions about my use of ‘lynch’ it was in regards to the political, not the rope, process. The black political community couldn’t give a sh*t about Tray-tm other than his use as a political tool. We have a lot of black teens (and sub-teens) killed here each year by other blacks – no one says crap. A white (and in GZ’s case that’s stretching the racial definitions) shoots a black teenager and it’s a historic event. The black hate mongers who profit mightily from making sure that race hatred stays a palpable reality do not want to see ‘justice’ done, now or ever. They want to drag this out, squeeze every bit of politician theater and personal gain they can from it and then try to morph it into something else they can profit from until they can gin-up another self-serving cause celebre. Do you see ANY court at any level from local to Federal trying to get this train wreck to a jury? Hell no, even the bureaucratic pukes elected or appointed to enforce the Constitutions from State to Federal level are feeding off of this for their own political gains. GZ deserves a trial, otherwise he needs to be lynched (in the legal sense) quickly not only to end our and his suffering but to stop the political profiteering of the Sharpton-Jackson crowd. This case lost any resemblance to a legal action long ago and has been black political theater ever since.

        • justfactsplz says:

          I agree with most all of what you say. The lynching bothered me because George is a friend but I see now what context you mean it in. Peace.

          • czarowniczy says:

            Understood, nearly 50 years of liberal brainwashing in the schools have made the words ‘white’ and ‘lynch’ almost synonymous. Just our evil, racist and imperialistic past catching up to us evil blue-eyed devils.

  16. kinthenorthwest says:

    this is the freaking problem with our society today…
    The police and school officials are so busy tiptoeing around the students that they let it drop until its too late. Too many of the students have no respect for school officials or law enforcement. In fact many kids have no respect for their own paents even.
    I substitute teach once in a while..Though I could use the money I told the pricipal a few months back that sorry they were going to need to find someone else for that class. The regular teacher was there in the beginning and I was jaw dropping shocked at the disrespect they were showing her. H3LL no wondeour country is almost at the bottom of academics world wide, with even a few 3rd world counties placing ahead of us.
    All teachers can do now adays if they are lucky is classroom management..

  17. mrethiopian says:

    Comment deleted due to vulgarity. Typical prog can’t speak without cursing. /SD

  18. diwataman says:

    It’s got to be the bus driver incident that he was suspended for, the weed thing is probably just cover, and instead of arresting him the M-DSPD let him go. It’s just too damn coincidental that the same Tuesday Tracy sent Trayvon to stay with Brandy that Trayvon’s cousin is tweeting Trayvon about the bus driver, more than likely a school bus driver, incident.

    • myopiafree says:

      HI D-Man, I think you are spot-on. Now we know the M-DSPD’s policy of “no arrest”, that explains why Trayvon had no criminal record – of a felony in this case. So Trayvon judged that he could execute felony attacks on anyone who “displeased” him – with no consequence to himself.

      • Libby says:

        AND this doesnt proclude the possibility that Brandy Green didnt use her influence combined with the school/police policy (sorry, but whatever George and his family have been accused of, I believe that the martins/fultons are guilty of)

    • Libby says:


    • LouDaJew says:

      looking back at who originally posted those suspensions (Frances Robles), I do believe that they might have been made up. the only part I do believe is about the women’s jewlery and burglary tool. Robles tried to make the marijuana a suspension because it fit into the Code of Student Conduct. the burglary tool and women’s jewlery might have been official with M-DCPS school police. Tracy Martin said that his son was suspended for being in an unauthorized area. the problem they found was that many employees could see Trayvon was suspended according to his attendance records, but couldn’t see why he was suspended.

    • Chip Bennett says:

      Assuming the incident happened, I have two thoughts:

      1) How popular is “Knock-Out” in Miami? (It was all the rage in St. Louis.)

      2) What are the chances that Martin said, “Do you have a problem? Well, you do now” before assaulting the bus driver?

    • myopiafree says:

      Hi D-Man, What, yo telln me that Trayvon played the “cold-cock game – the fight-club”. He was the cute 11 year-old child – all Black chlln is like that. I have no idea why some own would produce “artifical” videos of “Thugs” punching bus drivers, or one kid doing a cold-cock on a passer-by. No, don’t arrest them, give them “consoling”. Do you think that will STOP THEM??

  19. howie says:

    This is almost like…gasp…investigative reporting. It is what the reporters and journalists used to do. But that was in the old country.

    • myopiafree says:

      Hi Howie – Yes, “Investigative Journalism” is dead. Even “Point-counter-point” is dead. Now, they “reporters” make up convenient “invented” stories, and then mindlessly “clone” each other. They are PATHETIC.

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  21. kathyca says:

    My apologies if this article has been posted already. Haven’t been able to keep up.
    I haven’t read it yet. It’ll take me a while to get past the pic on the first page.

    • MJW says:

      Trayvon would have turned 18 this coming February and would have been graduating from high school.

      At least if he hadn’t spent a good portion of the school year truant or suspended and hadn’t failed the FCAT.

  22. arkansasmimi says:

    I can see renewed thug riots coming in Feb, does any one else? Hopefully not.

  23. terriergal says:

    The miami herald story by Frances Robles is gone. It can be found reprinted on this site though:

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