I was quite confused by this distinctly European approach until I had dinner with a Chinese actuary working in the auto warranty insurance industry.
Europe asks China to voluntarily limit exports (mostly autos) to the European Union. Europe doesn’t want to get China angry with them about this issue. However, China is sending massive numbers of EVs into Europe. Europe is losing its auto business. I couldn’t figure out why the EU didn’t take an aggressive/confrontational position.
Then I was reminded. Europe cannot force Beijing through a trade action (tariffs, ban, EU limit etc.) because Beijing might stop selling them EV carbon credits. If the European automakers cannot purchase Chinese EV carbon credit certificates, the fines levied by Brussels against gasoline powered autos will destroy the EU auto business.
Think about this for a while, then read the EU media report:
EuroNews – Brussels is pressing Beijing to accept quotas on Chinese exports as negotiations enter their final stretch, with the EU threatening trade measures unless tangible progress is made by next month.
Brussels and Beijing are fighting over quotas that would limit Chinese imports to the EU market, as the Europeans seek to rebalance their trade relationship with China, Euronews has learned.
Both started intense negotiations last June over EU and Chinese access to each other’s markets, with an October deadline set by the European Commission to reach “tanglible” results. However, China is pushing hard against the EU’s attempts to protect its market.
According to one person familiar with the matter, the Commission, which is negotiating on behalf of the 27 EU countries on trade issues, wants China to accept quotas on specific products. However, it is unclear how China would accept and respect such quotas.
According to media reports, so-called “voluntary export restrictions” have been pushed by the Commission for electric vehicles. But Beijing’s trade minister rejected them in a statement earlier this month.
If China accepted such a system of restrictions, it would mean that it voluntarily limits its exports to the EU on the basis of a deal negotiated with the Commission, sparing the EU from adopting defensive trade measures that might be seen as an aggressive move by China.
Technical negotiations are in their final stretch as the October deadline is approaching. (read more)
It’s a remarkable mess, no?
Europe wants Beijing to voluntarily limit the number of EVs that come into Europe from China, in order to save their auto sector from complete collapse. However, Europe cannot force Beijing to limit the number of EVs that come into Europe from China, or Beijing might stop selling them carbon credit certificates that will result in fines to the EU automakers that will collapse the EU auto sector.
You would think that Europe would just get rid of the net-zero carbon regulations until they can stabilize their market and get back to a reasonable energy policy. Alas, that would mean reversing decades of climate change legislation. The preferred route is to ask Beijing to limit hurting them.
Again, think about this.
Madness.
Just like England releasing terror suspects. Wouldn’t want to hurt any feelings now, would they? To their own demise.
Canada will do the same soon. We need a Northern border wall.
Pathetic
I’m shocked at this.
Really shocked.
S/off 😉
…..said Captain Renault.
Starting to think it would be a vast improvement if Russia lobbed a few nukes into Europe.
The EU is finished, all but the surrender.
Say what? The EUnuchs now have a new globalist green new scam pal with Canada’s Carney. If Canadians can’t see the writing on the wall from being led down this destructive path, they deserve what’s coming.
If they watch Canadian TV, they are happy as larks.
Who will discard the EUrotrash?
The onus of this burden is upon Heirloom European citizens.
Last one out, please turn off the lights. Oh… never mind…
Stupid is as stupid does.
I don’t think I would call that stupid I would call that having a death wish.
This reminds of a line from Laurel & Hardy: “Here’s another find message you’ve gotten me into…”
Methinks that this phrase is propos to many more episodes across the continent.
“… another fine mess …”
Auto-correct misspelled it for me. This AI stuff is really annoying at times.
This reminds of a line from Laurel & Hardy: “Here’s another fine mess you’ve gotten me into…”
Methinks that this phrase is propos to many more episodes across the continent
It’s madness for sure. All they have to do is get rid of their ridiculous carbon credit program, but that might make the Chinese sad. Plus they have woven their climate religion into every aspect of European life and they don’t know how to admit they were wrong about any of it. All completely self-inflicted, just like their insane immigration policies. It is all proof Europe is doomed.
The climate change agenda was always about reordering the global economic order in order to achieve complete and utter control over humanity.
That some believed it actually was to save the planet just made them useful idiots for others with malevolent intentions.
The only way this was going to work is if they took ALL of us down with them. PDJT was not supposed to happen. Western nations were expected to be in Managed Decline as though this was inevitable and nothing could be done about it except to shrug our shoulders, eat bugs, and ride a bike to that minimum wage job.
I noticed how quickly Billy G and others abandoned climate in favor of data centers. Follow the money.
Monopoly control of AI will be a very effective control mechanism of information and networked digital systems, if it is allowed to be held solely in the hands of control freaks.
Exactly, just like Vladimir Putin cured Covid-19 it was data centers that ended global warming! 🙄
Billy G?
He’s on the Forbes list towards the top end.
Epstein’s Friend….Gates.
Smaller house, smaller vehicle…you know, poverty.
And, you won’t own any of it.
But, you VILL be happy!
Cold, hungry and living in the dark.
Yes, it’s not about admitting that they were wrong.
It’s about RECOGNIZING that it was a lie from the start.
The issue is never the issue.
The issue is always about power.
I am optimistic that the members of “Shield” (Shield of the Americas) continue to focus on economic improvement of their respective countries. This would be great for their citizens and would also serve as a bulwark against malevolent forces.
Bingo 🎯
Ridding themselves of their carbon credit program would be an admission of the lie climate change is. They’d rather freeze to death than admit they lied.
The whole of the history of the 19th, 20th, and now into the 21st century, has been the gradual destruction of Europe.
Gradual, so as to hide the goal as long as possible from their peoples.
Destruction, because these minions of Satan have been deputized by their master, to destroy every last bastion of Christianity on Earth.
Check Pope Leo’s visit to France! Seems to be going very well.
Ten Most Popular Chinese EVs in Europe
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2026/07/02/chancellor-friedrich-merz-delivers-statement-of-immediately-mandated-government-reforms-to-german-workforce/
“To say Chancellor Merz was stunned by the advancements in robotics and industrial manufacturing within China would be an understatement. Merz was shocked not only by the technological capability, but also by the Chinese industrial work ethic and capabilities of the workforce.
Merz returned to Germany and immediately began discussing how Chinese industrial capacity was far beyond anything he previously estimated. Merz was shook. His reaction was, essentially, the #1 industrial nation within the EU confronting a reality of years of industrial complacency. Immediately he began talking about how things in Germany must change; how the German workforce must immediately start to get serious about productivity and production capacity.”
Yeah…how’s that going for him now? Follow through?
Now? I don’t really know, I don’t follow German politics that closely.
But last I heard the AfD ate his lunch and stole his milk money and they’re looking to put his sister on the street and bang his mom.
No thanks. I am keeping my right-hand drive 92 land-cruiser turbo diesel.
I’m not selling them! I just thought we’d like to know what they look like.
Funny, that sure doesn’t look like a Mao jacket…
“It’s a remarkable mess, no?”
What a tangled web we weave, when we seek to deceive.
China can’t restrict their exports much right now, their own export economy is collapsing and they need to keep as many people employed as they can.
“get back to a reasonable energy policy. Alas, that would mean reversing decades of climate change legislation.”
They have brought themselves to the edge of collapse, so they “should” take their own advice and build back better.
However, it is easier to fool people than it is to get them to admit that they have been fooled.
A day late and a Euro short. The European automakers are already on the dopamine drip.
They think it is dopamine but it is stronger and stronger morphine. They are dead men walking.
What a bunch of bitches
The stupid..
It burns.
“It burns.”
Ummmmm……You’ll need to buy some carbon credits for that…………..
🤦♀️ So they have to choose whether Brussels or Beijing puts their auto industry out of business?
This is the definition of a circular firing squad.
Was in UK recently. Series of Uber drivers asserted BYDs and cheaper makes are now a real factor. One of my rides was in a scarily impressive high end BYD. VW especially feeling the pain.
Wait until the next Democrat President of the USA does the same thing. Beg China for mercy because they’re too cowardly to defend their own interests. It’s coming to the USA in 2029.
I fear you might be right.
Really, I don’t
You’re new here I see…
Really? Who, Kamala? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Presently at Canadian duty-free, stocking up before sales ban.
Can I sell Europe carbon credits? I do need some cash for a new F-350.
Better Build Back, and quick.
🎯 💯
And let us not forget that one of the chief global architects and now ongoing beneficiaries of the entire Carbon Credits scam is our old friend Monsieur Le Carnage.
Or “Dear Mark” as Ursula Fond-of-Lying most recently addressed him. 😉
China, the EU, and all the five eyes, minus USA are about to go into a deep depression. With the billions Japan pledged to prop up US steel, when are those projects coming online?
That’s what you call a death wish or normal talk you call those lunatics with a death wish!!!
How rich, buying carbon credits from the world’s largest emitter of carbon dioxide. No one is even close to China in burning coal for electricity.
These people are so stupid!
I wouldn’t give them even THAT much credit!
China just agreed to buy billions of US coal…
Not stupid, evil. They know what they are doing. 8 Billion eaters need to be eliminated. Safe and Effective. Government Assisted Suicide. If the Voting Turnout is not Trumpian, we are toast too.
Could someone explain how a carbon credit is created? Why does China have them? This is imaginary no?
It is literally legalized counterfeiting for China.
It relies on the seller being honest about creating carbon (dioxide) offsets and not just claiming to have done so. There was also a lot of companies selling carbon credits that claimed a lot more offsets then what actually happened in practice.
Then the cap and trade market of carbon credits is a whole other level of fraud entirely.
Suffice to say certain people get quite wealthy off the pass through with no value added anywhere with it.
So a big scam.
BINGO!
Isn’t Al Gore one of those profiting off of the pass through? Selling air.
they get charged for cars they dont sell i think. and buy credits from china for the cars they sold
and china steals other car manufacturers building outlines and make a cheaper car
In this case it’s because they make and sell EVs. Not how they make them, just that they do.
Manufacturers elsewhere who can’t make or sell enough EVs to meet the green regulations in their country would have to pay significant penalties on every international combustion car they sell. Or they can buy the carbon credit that a Chinese EV creates to offset that penalty.
So China can churn out below-cost EVs to burn off their competitors and make their profit from the carbon credit sale to the very competitors they’re trying to kill off.
It’s a complete scam of course, and a chief architect and beneficiary of it is Mark Carnage as mentioned above.
BTW Elon used this business model to accelerate Tesla’s growth in the early days.
You put a pipe vertically into the ground. Attach a basketball air pump to the pipe. Operate pump and sell carbon credits to companies making something. It is imaginary but propaganda works. Oh, I forgot, you have to be a Democrat/Communist to make this work.
The EUnazis are so busy creating their story about Russia attacking them that China just picked up the keys to Brussels…
“If the European automakers cannot purchase Chinese EV carbon credit certificates, the fines levied by Brussels against gasoline powered autos will destroy the EU auto business.”
Do they not see that they are punishing themselves with their own policies? Good thing there are no guns in Europe. If there were these clowns would be constantly shooting themselves in the foot.
They are not punishing themselves.
They are destroying their people.
Please reduce the number of hammers you sell us that we hit ourselves in the head with. Life in the world they created with the climate delusion. Meanwhile, we are expanding mines to make more steel to build more gas cars.
the intent of those who cannot be named is to destroy the economies and social fabric of all western nations
once this is realized and accepted, the contrived machinations and carefully orchestrated crises become glaringly transparent
all going according to plan
the puppets and puppeteers are are high fiving privately, while publicly feigning angst and concern
welcome back my friends to the show that never ends
>> the intent of those who cannot be named is to destroy the economies and social fabric of all western nations
Exactly, and they call it “Build Back Better”
Go figure.
And then all the other nations collapse because those economies are largely what keep the entire world afloat and allow the midwits behind all this to live their lives of luxury.
My business is a durable trade. If this whole thing collapses I’ll still have a place in the world. The self-proclaimed Masters of the Universe own mostly paper and digital assets and, at best, know how to move those around to get more paper and digital assets. If their plans ever come to fruition it will be THEY who own nothing and I don’t think they’ll be happy.
Which is why those same people are probably having fits that the Traditional Catholic Church is booming, especially with the young!
They will get aggressive with native citizens that refuse conscription for a war they desperately want.
At which point those native citizens will have nothing left to lose (they’re already planning to ship them off to die) and that tends to be a VERY bad thing for governments that put their people into that situation.
Maybe Carney can get involved and help out the EU team. 🤣
Bunch of cucks.
He started the Great Green Grift.
Carney was Head of the Bank of England for a bit. He was the head of it like Claudine Gay was the head of Harvard. Ceremonial. You can tell by Carney’s Word Salads that his ability is limited. He was the Green and DEI guru of BOE.
Think of Kamala. They are the same. If you cannot make a coherent sentence you cannot run anything. Carney has been installed by higher ups and Carney’s job is to push Canada off the cliff. Carney hopes he can take the US with her. The Democrat/Communists want the same thing.
I can see those Floc cameras at all the roads leading out of large towns. Not allowing us to leave. “I am afraid, I can’t let you do that, Peon.”
They are not the same at all imho.
Carney is financially smart, globally connected at the highest levels, the current top puppet of WEF and the CCP and the hidden hands above them. Plus he’s pure evil.
We should not underestimate what that can allow him to facilitate in terms of damaging President Trump’s burgeoning new America.
More details on him here (3 posts).
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2026/08/18/president-trump-pauses-50-percent-tariffs-against-canada-hours-before-effect/#comment-12760470
And more here, linked by Sundance on X:
https://substack.com/home/post/p-217699491
Do you think what Carney is doing to Canada is financially smart? He is destroying his own people to get President Trump? That is something a deep thinker like Harris would do.
Absolutely not, of course.
But for him personally? Yes. For his WEF and CCP puppet masters, yes.
He is focused solely on becoming a billionaire through his sprawling web of grift via his carried interest agreements with Brookfield and 20+ years of crooked deals with globalists the world over.
He cares not one jot for Canada and its people or its economy.
He also stands to make a great deal of money from his stock portfolio which is 91% invested in America.
But he only gets to pursue his goal as long as he can stay in power. And to be allowed to do that he has to deliver on the WEF and CCP agenda to facilitate the destruction of President Trump’s America so they can implement their New World Order.
As well as the links I posted above, you can learn more about about the sprawling web of grift he’s meticulously built for his own benefit over the last 20 years here:
https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVJHS5Gx0=/
With all due respect, there’s no possible way Kamala could have done anything close to this. Even if she was sober. 😉
I truly find this hilarious, and it would make an interesting (but not very complicated) Rube Goldberg-like flowchart.
No sympathy.
they don’t want your sympathy
they want the populations of all western nations broke and destitute
it’s their intent and they are delighted the industries and economies of their countries are failing
they get more money, you get less
that’s the plan, and it’s all going well
for them
not you
Indeed.
The plan was to make the masses broke, destitute, and ultimately dependent upon those in power for everything in life.
life?
that’s the final take from you, after they destituted you
their plan – the 5 d’s, in order
1. dumb
2. diseased
3. drugged
4. destitute
5. daed
useless eaters walking around and breathing their air is nothing they will allow themselves to suffer
Well, some minimum number will be needed to keep things working aside from the robots. If for no other reasons than to have serfs to lord over.
Isn’t their number 500 million? But maybe with robots it will be much less?
Just flood Canada with the cheap evs and sell the resulting carbon credits to Europe. Win win! You know, unless you’re Canadian.
You would think that Europe would just get rid of the net-zero carbon regulations until they can stabilize their market and get back to a reasonable energy policy. “
Brussels is pressing Beijing to accept quotasEU threatening trade measuresthe EU’s attempts to protect its market wants China to accept quotas sparing the EU from adopting defensive trade measuresWell… we all know how one very special genius president has handled the green scam and trade imbalances! Maybe the EU can ask him for advice.
The West – outside of the US for now – is lost. Parents prepare you children for serfdom.
Many are already doing that. Most public schools teach propaganda not how to read and do math. Schools now do not want thinking individuals. Kamala is a good example of the desired output of public schools.
“ However, it is unclear how China would accept and respect such quotas.”
China will neither accept or respect such quotas, even if agreed to.
History will show the demise of Europe as self induced.
This all revolves around a small sliver of euroelite deriving enormous wealth from the scheme … trillions are at stake!
Led by Carney, the arch-European.
Europe doesn’t need a war with Russia to get their ass kicked and wiped off the face of the planet. They’re doing a good job themselves without ever having to fire a shot. May as well sit back and enjoy the entertainment. Can you smell sovereign debt defaults in the air.
This sort of brings to mind the ‘Glorious Revolution’ when King Charles II was defeated and England won without a shot being fired.
Of course that was only England; this time it is all of Europe (and King Charles III).
Erm, that was Jimmy II not Chucky II. And there was some fisticuffs at Reading. But we can gloss over that. 😉
China also has about 53% of the total Russian auto market.
The goal is and always has been intentional incremental decline to enrich Asia. They just cant afford for it to happen fast enough that the majority of their natives wake up.
Thats why the natives are also being replaced.
Thats what they want for us as well.
It is literally
$elf-offing!
The EU is quite a hoax
-Nero fiddling seems small by comparison
I’m sure China will be happy to comply.
But there will be a price.
And it may not be in money…
“You would think that Europe would just get rid of the net-zero carbon regulations until they can stabilize their market and get back to a reasonable energy policy.”
Yes, something is wrong when protecting the ruse of climate change, via nonsense policy, is so important that they would collapse their auto industry for it.
Cliffs: something is wrong with leadership in the EU.
Europe
asksBEGS China to voluntarily limit exports (mostly autos) to the European UnionFIFY
They’re “taxing” their most productive industry into bankruptcy! And they will NEVER say that Trump was right; even under their breath! Now that’s really hard-headed!
The thinking of Cuban and exVenezuelan leaders show you that Communists only double down over and over on failed policies. The whippings will continue until morale improves.
These Europee-ons deserve their energy policy served hard and cold and with no lube.
Every boasting from Brussels is pure madness / tragic comedy with hubris so thick a samurai sword can’t cut through it.
When can the EU close up shop? Not fast enough. Trying to start war to keep prentending is not gonna work out at all
All those countries who got duped to join their little experiment, and the fools in those countries that allowed it. Sucks to be you.
“Sad trombone plays”
Bat chit CRAZY!!!