In recent developments President Trump’s ‘project freedom’ operation to open the Strait of Hormuz for captured shipping interests has been paused following Saudi Arabia’s withdrawal of support and their revocation of Saudi air bases for U.S. operations.
The issue behind the Saudi decision is not that complicated if you understand the longer-term background. However, the issue behind the Saudi decision also highlights a key ¹flaw in the Promethean analysis of the relationship (and the reason I caution everyone to sip slowly from this information source).
The cliff notes version is that Saudi Arabia and many of the Gulf States look at the negotiations between President Trump and Iranian interests with skepticism. The Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) wants a complete and final elimination of the threat Iran represents. They do not believe Iran can be negotiated out of that threat. The GCC view negotiations as an Iranian delay tactic.
Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salmon, the main voice in the GCC position, has clear eyes and a long historic view on the threat Iran represents. They accept the people in control of the Iran regime will do and say anything to pause or remove the military confrontation; but they will never stop building the arsenal for war. There is zero, absolutely zero trust in anything the Iranians say on this matter.
As a consequence, Saudi Arabia understands the intent of President Trump’s request to support ‘project freedom’, however Saudi Arabia is not going to accept continued missile attacks from Iran during this ‘humanitarian’ effort to reopen the Strait. [Remember, this is also a Muslim Brotherhood issue. The Brotherhood is the political network behind extremist Islam.]
President Trump is asking Saudi Arabia and the GCC states to view the continued Iranian attacks as small slights, small provocations, while he diplomatically tries to negotiate with the Iranian regime. MbS and the GCC are unwilling to take this position, to accept these continued attacks against their nations, simply to give President Trump the political benefit of his policy.
Again, the Saudi’s and GCC have been dealing with this extremist threat for decades. They are unwilling to compromise in order to give space for negotiations they view as futile. The U.S. can use all Saudi support venues to confront Iran militarily, but they are not going to support the political and diplomatic effort behind ‘project freedom’ while they are simultaneously expected to accept continued attacks from Iran.
NBC News reported that Saudi Arabia revoked U.S. access to its bases for Project Freedom, a mission to safeguard the Strait of Hormuz from Iranian threats. A call between Trump and Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman failed to resolve the dispute, forcing the administration to pause the operation. Political commentators described the move as a significant strategic loss for the U.S. in the Gulf region. (source)
Essentially, the U.S. cannot say to the GCC: “Please open your skies and bases,” thereby exposing their energy infrastructure, only for everyone to discover afterwards the actual American policy was apparently: “Oh by the way, if Iran attacks you with ballistic missiles, cruise missiles and drones in several waves, we won’t retaliate because we are chasing a negotiated deal. And this is exactly what shocked the Saudis.
It was not the issue of the Iranian attack; after all, the UAE/GCC expect retaliation – this is Iran; no one in the Gulf is naïve about that. The shock came from the American reaction after the attacks against the GCC. Attacks against Emirati infrastructure, Fujairah was targeted, multiple waves involving drones, ballistic missiles, cruise missiles. And from their perspective Washington’s response was basically: “Meh. Minor incident. Let’s not escalate.” Minor incident?! From the perspective of the GCC this is madness. Thus, they withdraw support.
¹This is where it becomes critical to understand the position of the GCC as it relates to well over a decade of this Muslim Brotherhood/Iran extremist activity. It is not President Trump who triggered the GCC assembly to fight this radical Islamic extremism, a bastardized view of authentic Islam, it was Egypt and the GCC who have been confronting this stuff since President Obama triggered the “Arab Spring”.
Long before President Trump took office in 2017, Egyptian President Fattah al-Sisi had confronted the Muslim Brotherhood and assembled a coalition of mid-east partners to address this Islamist threat. Sisi went to see King Salmon (MbS dad) first, to get his support. Egypt then assembled Saudi Arabia, UAE, Oman, Bahrain, Kuwait and Jordan to confront Qatar, who was the bankers for the Muslim Brotherhood.
The GCC with all stable Arab state support then economically and diplomatically boycotted and isolated Qatar. The Qataris finally acquiesced to the pressure and in September 2014 the exiled leaders from the Muslim Brotherhood who were living in Qatar were sent to Turkey.
Egypt and the GCC have been confronting all of the tentacles from the Muslim Brotherhood for more than thirteen years now. All of these factions of radical Islam, al-Qaeda, al-Nusra, Hamas, Hezbollah, ISIS and more, come from this political apparatus represented by the Brotherhood, which is ideologically and structurally aligned in common cause with the extremism represented by the Iranian regime.
This is the background context for Saudi and GCC support for President Trump to finish the “drive them out of power” approach that Trump himself spoke of in 2017 during the Arab assembly. From the position of the GCC, they have done everything they can to destroy radical Islamic elements, now they need the power of the USA to eliminate what remains of it in Iran.
Saudi Arabia and the GCC view Iran as an existential threat that cannot be dealt with diplomatically and they do not trust any negotiation.
The most positive data points in all the U.S. activity against Iran have been two facets. First, the complete support of the Gulf Arab states for President Trump’s military confrontation of Iran. Second, Qatar joining in strong alignment with the gulf states against both Iran and the Muslim Brotherhood.
Qatar always sat on the fence with one foot supporting the Muslim Brotherhood and Iran, and the other foot supporting moderate Gulf Arab states. The difference between Qatar in 2015 and Qatar in 2026 is, quite frankly, remarkable – IF IT IS TRUE (I’m not convinced).
The GCC started their long battle against the Muslim Brotherhood in 2011, and frustratingly, they’re still standing on that same platform 15 years later. That’s why they’re not about to let Iran attack them while President Trump pursues a peace deal they see as worthless.
Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, the GCC and even Qatar now holds the position that all political power structures within Iran must be destroyed.
It’s not just Israel urging President Trump to take action against Iran. In fact, history shows that support from Israel is actually less than the backing he’s getting from Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and the GCC for ongoing military strikes against Iran.
Last point, that reality is also what makes the Tucker Carlson viewpoint look ridiculous and indicates he has some alternative motive behind his position.
Hope that helps.


Well, thank you Sundance,,was getting close to asking for some sort of explanation of what in Sam Hill was the problem here. IMHO,,, just hammer these turds and get it over with already
Spell check/autocorrect strikes again! Twice!
It thought your spelling was fishy.
Good cop. Bad cop. Could work. Or the Saudis could move in and do the job themselves.
With what?
We sold them F15s.
Do they actually know how to pilot them?
They do, and maintain them as well.
Parts of any arms sales to the UAE includes training both pilots and maintenance personnel as well as a robust spares package.
My question to the UAE and all the Arab nations taking incoming: When are you going to stop reserving the right to retaliate and actually do it?
https://abcnews.com/US/doj-probing-26-billion-oil-trades-related-iran/story?id=132738007&cid=social_twitter_abcn
Smh!
A lot happening right now.
US attacked qeshm port and bandar abbas
in Iran. But according to reports it is not the start of war. Hmm.
UAE attacked Iran earlier and Iran fired on a US ship.
I’m just hearing this as it is reported on Agenda free live. (Lookner)
Supposedly, Iran attacked destroyers with missiles and drones. 👈🏻 just reported…true or propaganda…? Not sure on this, tbh.
I’m going to wait for official news sources. The situation is obviously “in extreme flux,” and I don’t expect to hear anything “accurate” right now. “The Fog Of War.™”
I just read in another post at the Presidential here that Iran hit a Chinese boat.
Seems a lot going on right now…more reports of explosions,
more sources claiming 3 of our destroyers were damaged.
Iran says we hit one of their tankers first.
I just keep live feeds going so I can keep up as things happen.
But “reports” do not always =truth.
Damaging three destroyers? That’s quite a stretch considering all the hardware in the region networked into their AEGIS systems.
Speaking of which, the IRGC’s social media division has been the most effective force of theirs to date in mainstreaming patently false information.
Dems mainline that shyt.
That’s why I said “supposedly”… 🤷🏻♀️ regarding the ships. But there are strikes happening in Iran and missiles and drones have been fired on our ships. Probably no damage, but centcom is assisting our war ships through the strait. That seems to be verified. Lookner does say if he can verify these reports are not. He doesn’t opine, that’s why I like him ok.
If you gonna do it, do it right… Can’t say as I blame them.
Every description I see of things that are expected of Iran’s government seems to call for their IMMEDIATE VAPORIZATION.
If these people can never be trusted, then they must be killed. They certainly can’t be trusted to stay in power which is Trump’s standard M.O. in these matters. And it would be in Trump’s interests to do something far more extreme.
He still needs to collect the Uranium from Iran’s locations. From that Uranium, they can determine the origin. Is it Uranium One? Is it Russia? Israel???? (If Israel really wants to destroy Iran, finding a way to provide them with Uranium would provide plausible justification) That collection can’t happen under THIS circumstance.
The circumstances need to be changed.
The Saudi’s have it right. Of course, Trump wants to rock the boat slowly prior to his meet on May 15 with Xi.
seems to be more of the same old – same old that’s been going on over there for decades and decades. You aren’t making a “deal” with these religious nut-jobs. They will keep pushing until they’re all room-temperature. Someone suckered Trump into this mess, but getting out of it won’t be easy or timely. He’s gonna be neck-deep in this until he’s out of office.
Our nation needs his complete focus. The GOP hasn’t done anything on his core agenda in the 15 months they’ve had full control. It’s looking pretty clear to me that they won’t be doing anything ever. I have no idea how Trump stays quiet about it. Baffles me completely.
I know he is worshipped around these parts, but this administration over the past 15 months has been awful, outside of some illegal immigration controls. But now even that is looking iffy.
Oh no…
“Someone suckered Trump into this mess”
trump is an adult, and we voted for him to represent our interests. win or lose, this is on HIM.
Well, what the hell, Saudis, you want us to destroy EVERYTHING in IRAN, the very things that feed the people?
If we had actual intel at this point, we could kill what “leaders” are left so evidently we don’t have that intel.
Oh, I think it’s quite incorrect to speculate about “what ‘intel’ we do and don’t have.” Obviously, the ‘intel’ has been excellent. Excellent enough to precisely locate and destroy key leadership in several successful waves. But, you’re not going to be privy to anything about it, and neither are your “sources.” Top Secret. “Because Somebody Talked!” isn’t going to happen.
I respect Trump for what he is earnestly trying to do. However, I don’t think that such a resolution is possible with this enemy. (And, many other nations who have been all around them for thousands of years apparently don’t think so, either.)
PDJT always gives his opponents plenty of rope to eventually hang themselves.
Yes, but with this regime that should be an extra short rope given their history. Not all enemies are the same.
The House of Saud is WAITING TIL the Qataris STRIKE; the Qataris HAVE the Top Tech and Proximity to the Straits, BUT are waiting for a Bail Out so as NOT to Step Off into the Deep End and Commit.
mbS is Protecting his country the SAME Way.
The ARABS WANT To SELL / SHIP Out THEIR PETRO CHEMICALS – THEY SHOULD LEAD imo
The Qataris, Just Like the Pakistanis – ARE DUPLICITOUS. BOTH operate on the theory of Taqiyya –
Pakistan Obtained their Bomb by Zulfikar Ali Bhutto and Munir Ahmad Khan with General Zia-ul-Haq
” pulling the Trigger ” thru espionage and dual-usage technology.
The Qataris ARE the Middle Eastern Bank of Choice, Just as the Swiss were for Years. They HIDE Monies, Holdings and
only ” get Involved ” IF THEIR Bottom Line is impinged.
The House of Saud ALSO SIGNED a Defense Pact with Pakistan that Plays into THE EQUATION –
https://defencesecurityasia.com/en/saudi-arabia-pakistan-defence-pact-nuclear-umbrella/
https://islamqa.info/en/answers/154955/situations-in-which-lying-is-permissible
https://southasiatimes.org/pakistans-nuclear-journey-from-disparity-to-deterrence/
https://gcclub.org/0000/00/00/why-qatar-is-abandoning-the-muslim-brotherhood-and-hamas/
https://gcclub.org/what-is-gulf-cultural-club/
Isn’t one other issue complicating things as well ? The issue is that President Trump has a close relationship with Qatar in some way – he even boasted about it on podcasts leading up to the 2024 election. I wonder if that relationship may now be a liability with the support Qatar reportedly gives to the muslim brotherhood and indirectly to the Shia Iranians .
FYI: I have unwavering confidence in my Commander-in-Chief and his vast team. I also do not expect to learn what the various Arab players are now discussing, whether with us or among themselves. I expect all of this to be “Top Secret,” and I’m not going to sit around second-guessing them. All of the players are experienced adults.
I understand that PresTrump is eager for this current “ceasefire and negotion” phase because of the fallout in oil and gasoline prices
But I think he’s left the job half undone so far … I think he needs to go from leaving 18 percent of Irans missile capacity in place to fully eliminating it all. I think Saudi Arabia has the correct assessment of Iran and that thinking they’ll abide by some diplomatic — ahem — “memo” is fanciful and naive thinking
We need a Phase 2 of our military campaign, once military intelligence has comprehensively identified ALL remaining missiles and launchers, has a plan to remove the enriched uranium (and centrifuges), and while we have such an overwhelming level of US forces on station there
The Washington Post reported:
A confidential CIA analysis delivered to administration policymakers this week concludes that Iran can survive the U.S. naval blockade for at least three to four months before facing more severe economic hardship, four people familiar with the document said, a finding that appears to raise new questions about President Donald Trump’s optimism on ending the war.
The analysis by the U.S. intelligence community, whose secret assessments on Iran have often been more sober than the administration’s public statements, also found that Tehran retains significant ballistic missile capabilities despite weeks of intense U.S. and Israeli bombardment, three of the people familiar with it said.
Iran retains about 75 percent of its prewar inventories of mobile launchers and about 70 percent of its prewar stockpiles of missiles, a U.S. official said. The official said there is evidence that the regime has been able to recover and reopen almost all of its underground storage facilities, repair some damaged missiles and even assemble some new missiles that were nearly complete when the war began.
BREAKING: Deep State Leaks CIA Iran War Dossier to WaPo
Trump doesn’t pay any attention to the CIA. They are not on Americas side.
The point is the CIA leaked it’s analysis of the conflict to the Washington Post and said that Iran is winning! So, it really doesn’t matter whether President Trump trusts them or not!
Sources say, US official says, people familiar with it say…
Isn’t that how all the fake news starts out?
Just sayin’….
It’s a mind war amidst a lull in a kinetic war. Ditto economic warfare elsewhere.
Lest we all forget, breaking the MAGA coalition is a top priority of those in favor of returning to the status quo of looting America before President Trump.
I can’t blame the Saudis. This may force Trump to finish the job. He has given Iran every chance but he should know that the Iranians can’t be trusted…ever.
Looks like Project Freedom may have been paused because we had some business to take care of….
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US strikes Qeshm Port, Bandar Abbas, Bandar Kargan; official says attacks not ceasefire breach
https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/trump-iran-project-freedom-hormuz-war-may-7
“Strikes on Iran are ONGOING, just hit the Bandar Kargan naval checkpoint in Minab.”…
Looks like the US Military can continue to use Saudi and Kuwait Air bases…
“Saudi Arabia and Kuwait have lifted restrictions on the U.S. military’s use of their bases and airspace imposed after the start of the American operation to reopen the Strait of Hormuz, according to U.S. and Saudi officials, easing a hurdle that had tripped up President Trump’s effort to move ships through the vital waterway.
The Trump administration is now looking to restart the operation to guide commercial ships with naval and air support that it had paused after 36 hours this week, U.S. officials said.
It isn’t clear when that could happen though Pentagon officials gave a timeline of as early as this week.
The U.S. operation to force open the strait relied on an enormous fleet of aircraft to protect commercial ships from Iranian missiles and drones, making Saudi and Kuwaiti bases and airspace critical to its execution.:
It was a terrible mistake to stop and negotiate. Unfortunately, unless Trump can pull a rabbit out of the hat, he has snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. The Iranians will play for the only thing that Trump doesn’t have – time. The Iranians have used the one sided ceasefire to regroup, close the straits humiliating the USN, and to continue to strike their Gulf Arab neighbours whilst Trump does nothing but threaten.
Now the war powers time frame comes into play transferring much of Trumps negotiating leverage to Congress.
The RINO GOP and Dem Congress will not let him resume war and Iran will become increasingly difficult to deal with. The GOP and Dem Congress will now likely have an opportunity to get what they all really secretly want, a massive defeat for Trump. The Congress would love for the USA to be humiliated by Iran as long as they can blame it on Trump.
I pray I am wrong. But I think Trump has finally miscalculated very badly. I pray I am wrong, if I am right this will be the end of MAGA as Congress ensures Trump is humiliated running into the mid terms, wiping out the GOP House and Senate and setting up an impeachment next year. My God I hope Trump can save this situation because it looks dreadful to me.
Tell me how Trump gets out of this situation?
If they want more then maybe THEY should send in ground forces.