I have been asked to recap some of my research into cited formats of what I believe to be criminal conduct, with specific statutes against them. This is the fifth.
DNI Tulsi Gabbard is not a lawyer. While I may be wrong, I find Tulsi Gabbard to be a patriot. Mrs. Gabbard is focused on providing evidence to the DOJ that essentially forces action. I support Tulsi Gabbard’s efforts.
What is the bigger threat to our nation?
♦ Russiagate, where the Hillary Clinton campaign manufactured a dirty political story during a presidential election that was supported by Barack Obama and the DOJ/FBI?
OR…
♦ Spygate, where full spectrum political surveillance was conducted on all political opposition using government access to the NSA database that contains the private metadata of every American citizen?
If you are a person of stable and reasonable mindset, you likely identify the second issue as a much bigger threat. Not only is using the NSA database to conduct illegal surveillance a bigger threat; but it is also a threat that remains as current declassified FISA court statements show the NSA database is still being exploited.
Secondly, and perhaps more importantly, I would argue the first issue, Russiagate, is intentionally being leveraged as a shiny thing to stop people from realizing the second, much more unlawful issue took place.
Focusing on “Russiagate” leads you to a political storyline that is: harder to outline as unlawful, easily obfuscated, downplayed and subsequently dismissed. Focusing on the use of the NSA database to spy on people is simple to understand, completely unlawful and in stunningly unconstitutional when contrast against 4th amendment protections.
This brings me to the point where I am specifically calling out those who are intentionally operating to keep the American public distracted from the bigger scandal by their focusing everyone’s attention on the thing that, given the contrast to the other, really doesn’t matter.
Hillary Clinton made up a false story about Trump-Russia collusion and the DOJ-NSD/FBI helped her. That’s bad.
However, President Barack Obama weaponized the unlawful use of the NSA database to conduct surveillance on all of his political opposition. That’s infinitely, heck, exponentially worse.
Oh, and Hillary Clinton likely then received the opposition surveillance results to assist her 2016 campaign strategy.
Now, let’s look at this John Solomon report as an example of reporting that is intentionally distracting the American public. Solomon has been promoting the story of Russiagate using irrelevant but sexy information from the DOJ and FBI that will never be used in criminal cases.
Watch how Solomon shares a significant moment in March of 2017, then deflects and obfuscates the value of what is really being outlined (Spygate), into something that is entirely disconnected from the context (Russiagate).
From a recent interview with Jan Jekielek: (emphasis mine)
🚨@jsolomonReports reveals the pivotal 2017 moment that set him on the trail of what many now call Russiagate.
He’d just gone on Fox News with a story about the surge in “unmaskings”—where American citizens’ private communications were exposed without warrants. Senior FBI and… pic.twitter.com/pHFQefTZO7
— Jan Jekielek (@JanJekielek) August 23, 2025
Solomon had just returned from a Fox News hit outlining a story about the surge in “unmaskings”—where American citizens’ private communications were exposed without warrants. Solomon was discussing the Rosemary Collyer report on NSA database queries and unmaskings. Senior FBI and DOJ officials had already told him: Don’t waste your time on Russia collusion.
Late that night, he pulled into his driveway.
A blue sedan with yellow fog lights sat waiting by his mailbox.
Two men stepped out.
“‘We can’t tell you who we are, but you’re at the tip of a very large iceberg, and we hope you drill into it.’
‘What in God’s name are you guys talking about?’
‘Well, that thing you were reporting on television…’
‘Yeah, that’s a FISA court filing.’
‘It is the apex of a very large scandal, and you need to drill down in it.’
‘All right, walk me through this guys.’
‘We can’t tell you. It’s all classified.’
‘OK that’s not very helpful. Can you give me something of a more generic description?’
‘Yeah, we work in the intelligence community, and our agencies were asked to participate in one of the greatest political dirty tricks in history.
And if it isn’t stopped—and one day, when it is uncovered—we will lose the tools that keep you and I safe at night.
We won’t be able to find terrorists, and we won’t find spies, because these tools will be taken from us because we abused them in the last couple of years.’
John Solomon is a smart man.
John Solomon knows the issue they were talking about, the issue he was just discussing on Fox News, the issue that surrounds the “tools” they are concerned about losing, is the issue of conducting surveillance using the NSA database.
John Solomon knows this. He is not obtuse or mistaken about the issue that was at the center of that weird contact.
However, notice how John Solomon then obfuscates that specific issue and jumps immediately to conflate it with the Clinton dirty tricks around Russiagate, the Trump-Russia collusion stuff. Solomon is NOT doing this accidentally or by mistake. Solomon is taking the viewer away from the main story on purpose.
Notice that nowhere in the larger or expanded interview [SEE HERE] does Solomon ever bring up the originating issue of surveillance of the Trump campaign or exploitation of the NSA database in the discussion. Instead, he starts to immediately call attention to the Clinton campaign dirty tricks and the FBI collaboration therein.
Let us discuss how big a story is being professionally hidden.
We have significant research files on the 2015 and 2016 political surveillance program; which includes the trail evident within the Weissmann/Mueller report; in combination with the Obama-era DOJ “secret research project” (their words, not mine). We are able to overlay the entire objective and gain a full understanding of how political surveillance was conducted over a period of approximately four to six years.
This is why there was panic after the 2016 election.
President Obama’s “Spygate” operation is what they are trying to hide by focusing on Hillary Clinton’s “Russiagate.”
Working with a timeline but also referencing origination material in 2015/2016, lets remind everyone how the program operated. This explains an evolution from The IRS Files in 2010 to the FISA Files in 2016.
More importantly, research indicates the modern political exploitation of the NSA database, for weaponized intelligence surveillance of politicians, began mid 2012.
The FISA-702 database extraction process, and utilization of the protections within the smaller intelligence community, was the primary process. We start by reviewing the established record from the 99-page FISC opinion rendered by Presiding Judge Rosemary Collyer on April 26th, 2017; and explain the details within the FISC opinion.
I would strongly urge everyone to read the FISC report because Judge Collyer outlines how the DOJ, which includes the FBI, had an “institutional lack of candor” in responses to the FISA court. In essence, the Obama administration was continually lying to the court about their activity and the rate of fourth amendment violations for illegal searches and seizures of U.S. persons’ private information for multiple years.
Unfortunately, due to intelligence terminology Judge Collyer’s brief and ruling is not an easy read for anyone unfamiliar with the FISA processes outlined. The complexity also helps the media avoid discussing, and as a result most Americans had no idea the scale and scope of the issues. So, we’ll try to break down the language.
For the sake of brevity and common understanding CTH will highlight the most pertinent segments showing just how systemic and troublesome the unlawful electronic surveillance was.
Early in 2016 NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers was alerted of a significant uptick in FISA-702(17) “About” queries using the FBI/NSA database that holds all metadata records on every form of electronic communication.
The NSA compliance officer alerted Admiral Mike Rogers who then initiated a full compliance audit on/around March 9th, 2016, for the period of November 1st, 2015, through May 1st, 2016.
While the audit was ongoing, due to the severity of the results that were identified, Admiral Mike Rogers stopped anyone from using the 702(17) “about query” option and went to the extraordinary step of blocking all FBI contractor access to the database on April 18, 2016 (keep these dates in mind).
Here are some significant segments:
The key takeaway from these first paragraphs is how the search query results were exported from the NSA database to users who were not authorized to see the material. The FBI contractors were conducting searches and then removing, or ‘exporting’, the results. Later on, the FBI said all of the exported material was deleted.

Searching the highly classified NSA database is essentially a function of filling out search boxes to identify the user-initiated search parameter and get a return on the search result.
FISA-702(16) is a search of the system returning a U.S. person (“702”); and the “16” is a check box to initiate a search based on “To and From“. Example, if you put in a date and a phone number and check “16” as the search parameter the user will get the returns on everything “To and From” that identified phone number for the specific date. Calls, texts, contacts etc. Including results for the inbound and outbound contacts.
FISA-702(17) is a search of the system returning a U.S. person (702); and the “17” is a check box to initiate a search based on everything “About” the search qualifier. Example, if you put a date and a phone number and check “17” as the search parameter the user will get the returns of everything about that phone. Calls, texts, contacts, geolocation (or gps results), account information, user, service provider etc. As a result, 702(17) can actually be used to locate where the phone (and user) was located on a specific date or sequentially over a specific period of time which is simply a matter of changing the date parameters.
And that’s just from a phone number.
Search an ip address “about” and read all data into that server; put in an email address and gain everything about that account. Or use the electronic address of a GPS enabled vehicle (about) and you can withdraw more electronic data and monitor in real time. Search a credit card number and get everything about the account including what was purchased, where, when, etc. Search a bank account number, get everything about transactions and electronic records etc.
Just about anything and everything can be electronically searched; everything has an electronic ‘identifier’.
The search parameter is only limited by the originating field filled out. Names, places, numbers, addresses, etc. By using the “About” parameter there may be thousands or millions of returns. Imagine if you put “@realdonaldtrump” into the search parameter? You could extract all following accounts who interacted on Twitter, or Facebook etc. You are only limited by your imagination and the scale of the electronic connectivity.
As you can see below, on March 9th, 2016, internal auditors noted the FBI was sharing “raw FISA information, including but not limited to Section 702-acquired information”.
In plain English the raw search returns were being shared with unknown entities without any attempt to “minimize” or redact the results. The person(s) attached to the results were named and obvious. There was no effort to hide their identity or protect their 4th amendment rights of privacy:

But what’s the scale here? This is where the story really lies.
Read this next excerpt carefully.
The operators were searching “U.S. Persons”. The review of November 1, 2015, to May 1, 2016, showed “eighty-five percent of those queries” were unlawful or “non-compliant”.
85% !! “Representing [redacted number]”.
We can tell from the space of the redaction the number of searches were between 1,000 and 9,999 [five digits]. If we take the middle number of 5,000 – that means 4,250 unlawful searches out of 5,000.

The [five digit] amount (more than 1,000, less than 10,000), and 85% error rate, was captured in a six-month period.
Also notice this very important quote: “many of these non-compliant queries involved the use of the same identifiers over different date ranges.” They were searching the same phone number, email address, electronic “identifier”, or people, repeatedly over different dates. Specific people were being tracked/monitored.
Additionally, notice the last quote: “while the government reports it is unable to provide a reliable estimate of” these non lawful searches “since 2012, there is no apparent reason to believe the November 2015 [to] April 2016 coincided with an unusually high error rate”.
That means the 85% unlawful NSA database exploitation was likely been happening since 2012.
Again, remember that date, 2012.
Who was FBI Director? Robert Mueller.
Who was his chief-of-staff? Aaron Zebley.
Tens of thousands of searches over four years (since 2012), and 85% of them are illegal. The results were extracted for?…. (I believe this is all political opposition use; and I’ll explain why momentarily.)
OK, that’s the stunning scale; but who was involved?
Private contractors with access to “raw FISA information that went well beyond what was necessary to respond to FBI’s requests“:
And as noted, the contractor access was finally halted on April 18th, 2016.
[Coincidentally (or not), the wife of Fusion-GPS founder Glenn Simpson, Mary Jacoby, goes to the White House the next day on April 19th, 2016.]
None of this is conspiracy theory.
All of this is laid out inside this 99-page opinion from FISC Presiding Judge Rosemary Collyer who also noted that none of this FISA abuse was accidental in a footnote on page 87: “deliberate decisionmaking“:

This specific footnote, if declassified, would be key. Note the phrase: “([redacted] access to FBI systems was the subject of an interagency memorandum of understanding entered into [redacted])”, this sentence has the potential to expose an internal decision; withheld from congress and the FISA court by the Obama administration; that outlines a process for access and distribution of surveillance data.
Note: “no notice of this practice was given to the FISC until 2016“, that is important.
Summary of this aspect: The FISA court identified and quantified tens-of-thousands of search queries of the NSA/FBI database using the FISA-702(16)(17) authorization to search the NSA database. The database was repeatedly used by persons with contractor access who unlawfully searched and extracted the raw results without redacting the information and shared it with an unknown number of entities.
The outlined process certainly points toward a political spying and surveillance operation; and we are not the only one to think that’s what this system is being used for.
Back in 2017 when House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes was working to reauthorize the FISA legislation, Nunes wrote a letter to ODNI Dan Coats about this specific issue:

SIDEBAR: To solve the issue, well, actually attempt to ensure it never happened again, NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers eventually took away the “About” query option permanently in 2017. NSA Director Rogers said the abuse was so inherent there was no way to stop it except to remove the process completely. [SEE HERE] Additionally, the NSA database operates as a function of the Pentagon, so they went one step further. On his last day as NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers -together with ODNI Dan Coats- put U.S. cyber-command, the database steward, fully into the U.S. military as a full combatant command. [SEE HERE]
There is little doubt the NSA database was used by Obama-era officials, from 2012 through April 2016, as a way to spy on their political opposition. Quite simply there is no other intellectually honest explanation for the scale and volume of database abuse that was taking place.
When we reconcile what was taking place and who was involved, then the actions of the exact same principal participants take on a jaw-dropping amount of clarity.
All of the action taken by CIA Director Brennan, FBI Director Comey, ODNI Clapper and Defense Secretary Ashton Carter make sense. Including their effort to get NSA Director Mike Rogers fired.
Russia-Gate, the Steele Dossier and even the 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment (drawn from the dossier and signed by the above) were needed to create a cover-story and protect themselves from discovery of this four-year weaponization, political surveillance and unlawful spying.
This is why President Obama was willing to push the Russiagate story with his activity in December of 2016 after the election. Obama wasn’t only dirtying up President Trump, Obama was using Russiagate as a cover for the spying that took place using the NSA database.
Even the appointment of Robert Mueller as special counsel makes sense; Mueller was FBI Director when the use of the NSA database surveillance began. Aaron Zebly was his chief-of-staff.
The beginning decision to use FISA (702) as a domestic surveillance and political spy mechanism appears to have started in/around 2012. Perhaps sometime shortly before the 2012 presidential election and before John Brennan left the White House and moved to CIA. However, there was an earlier version of data assembly that preceded this effort.
Political spying 1.0 was actually the weaponization of the IRS. This is where the term “Secret Research Project” originated as a description from the Obama team. It involved the U.S. Department of Justice under Eric Holder and the FBI under Robert Mueller. It never made sense why Eric Holder requested over 1 million tax records via CD ROM, until overlaying the timeline of the FISA abuse:
The IRS sent the FBI “21 disks constituting a 1.1-million-page database of information from 501(c)(4) tax exempt organizations to the Federal Bureau of Investigation.” The transaction occurred in October 2010 (link)
Why disks? Why send a stack of DISKS to the DOJ and FBI when there’s a pre-existing financial crimes unit within the IRS.
All of the evidence within this sketchy operation came directly to the surface in early spring 2012.
The IRS scandal was never really about the IRS; it was always about the DOJ asking the IRS for the database of information. That is why it was transparently a conflict when the same DOJ was tasked with investigating the DOJ/IRS scandal. Additionally, Obama sent his chief-of-staff Jack Lew to become Treasury Secretary; effectively placing an ally to oversee/cover-up any issues. As Treasury Secretary Lew did just that.
Lesson Learned – It would appear the Obama administration learned a lesson from attempting to gather a large opposition research database operation inside a functioning organization large enough to have some good people that might blow the whistle.
The timeline reflects a few months after realizing the “Secret Research Project” was now worthless (June 2012), they focused more deliberately on a smaller network within the intelligence apparatus and began weaponizing the FBI/NSA database. If my hunch is correct, that is what will be visible in footnote #69:
How this all comes together:
Fusion GPS was not hired in April 2016 simply to research Donald Trump. As shown in the evidence provided by the FISC, the Obama administration was already doing surveillance and spy operations. The Obama administration already knew everything about the Trump campaign and were monitoring everything by exploiting the FISA database.
However, after the NSA alerts in/around March 9th, 2016, and particularly after the April 18th shutdown of contractor access, the Obama FBI needed Fusion GPS to create a legal albeit ex post facto justification for the pre-existing surveillance and spy operations. Fusion GPS gave them that justification in the Steele Dossier.
That’s why the FBI small group, which later transitioned into the Mueller team, were so strongly committed to and defending the formation of the Steele Dossier and its dubious content. The Steele Dossier was a tool needed to get a FISA Title-1 warrant, that became the cover and justification for a pre-existing surveillance operation.
The Steele Dossier becomes the investigative virus the FBI wanted inside the system. To get the virus into official status, they used the FISA application as the delivery method and injected it into Carter Page.
The FBI already knew Carter Page; essentially Carter Page was irrelevant, what they needed was the FISA warrant and the Dossier in the system {Go Deep}.
Fusion GPS was hired by Hillary Clinton to research Trump; however, the Obama administration was already doing surveillance and spy operations, using FBI contractors. The FBI needed Fusion GPS to give them something, a plausible justification for already existing surveillance and spy operations.
Fusion-GPS gave them the justification they needed for a FISA warrant with the Steele Dossier. Ultimately that’s why the Steele Dossier was so important; without it, the Obama administration was naked with their NSA database abuse.
Investigating ‘Russiagate’, as dirty and unseemly as it was, takes you to a place where politics infected the DOJ/FBI and every participant carries plausible deniability. However, investigate the 2016 illegal surveillance of Donald Trump’s campaign via the NSA database and all of that activity can never be justified.
If you understand the distinction above, then you start to realize why John Solomon is focusing on Russiagate. Beware the person who picks up the flag at the front of the parade, for they are likely steering the crowd for a reason.
If DNI Tulsi Gabbard focuses on the known FBI surveillance of the GOP candidates in 2016, by focusing on how FBI contractors exploited access to the NSA database to conduct political opposition research, then suddenly the entire story takes on a simpler to understand context.
Declassify the Rosemary Collyer 99-page FISA report and outline the FBI contractors doing the surveillance.
Stop focusing so much attention on Russiagate, it’s the shiny thing fraught with plausible deniability. Focus instead on declassifying and releasing the real story of how the NSA database has been used to conduct political surveillance for over a decade.
Obama conducted full spectrum political surveillance and spying operations exploiting the NSA database from 2012 to 2016.
All republican candidates were under surveillance.
THAT is the BIG STORY that will shake up DC.
FOR CONTEXT:
♦ Heat Street (Louise Mensch) Dated November 7th 2016:
Two separate sources with links to the counter-intelligence community have confirmed to Heat Street that the FBI sought, and was granted, a FISA court warrant in October, giving counter-intelligence permission to examine the activities of ‘U.S. persons’ in Donald Trump’s campaign with ties to Russia. (link with multiple internal links)
♦ The New York Times (, ) Dated January 19th 2017:
[…] The F.B.I. is leading the investigations, aided by the National Security Agency, the C.I.A. and the Treasury Department’s financial crimes unit. The investigators have accelerated their efforts in recent weeks but have found no conclusive evidence of wrongdoing, the officials said. One official said intelligence reports based on some of the wiretapped communications had been provided to the White House. (link)
♦ The New York Times (Charlie Savage) Dated January 12th 2017:
WASHINGTON — In its final days, the Obama administration has expanded the power of the National Security Agency to share globally intercepted personal communications with the government’s 16 other intelligence agencies before applying privacy protections.
The new rules significantly relax longstanding limits on what the N.S.A. may do with the information gathered by its most powerful surveillance operations, which are largely unregulated by American wiretapping laws. These include collecting satellite transmissions, phone calls and emails that cross network switches abroad, and messages between people abroad that cross domestic network switches. (link)
♦ National Review (Andrew McCarthy) Dated January 11th 2017:
[…] To summarize, it appears there were no grounds for a criminal investigation of banking violations against Trump. Presumably based on the fact that the bank or banks at issue were Russian, the Justice Department and the FBI decided to continue investigating on national-security grounds. A FISA application in which Trump was “named” was rejected by the FISA court as overbroad, notwithstanding that the FISA court usually looks kindly on government surveillance requests.
A second, more narrow application, apparently not naming Trump, may have been granted five months later; the best the media can say about it, however, is that the server on which the application centers is “possibly” related to the Trump campaign’s “alleged” links to two Russian banks — under circumstances in which the FBI has previously found no “nefarious purpose” in some (undescribed) connection between Trump Tower and at least one Russian bank (whose connection to Putin’s regime is not described). (link with more links)
♦ The Guardian (Julian Borger) Dated Wednesday January 11th, 2017:
The Guardian has learned that the FBI applied for a warrant from the foreign intelligence surveillance (Fisa) court over the summer in order to monitor four members of the Trump team suspected of irregular contacts with Russian officials. The FISA court turned down the application asking FBI counter-intelligence investigators to narrow its focus. According to one report, the FBI was finally granted a warrant in October, but that has not been confirmed, and it is not clear whether any warrant led to a full investigation. (link)
♦ New York Times ( ) March 1st 2017:
WASHINGTON — In the Obama administration’s last days, some White House officials scrambled to spread information about Russian efforts to undermine the presidential election — and about possible contacts between associates of President-elect Donald J. Trump and Russians — across the government. Former American officials say they had two aims: to ensure that such meddling isn’t duplicated in future American or European elections, and to leave a clear trail of intelligence for government investigators.
[…] More than a half-dozen current and former officials described various aspects of the effort to preserve and distribute the intelligence, and some said they were speaking to draw attention to the material and ensure proper investigation by Congress. All spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were discussing classified information, nearly all of which remains secret, making an independent public assessment of the competing Obama and Trump administration claims impossible.
The F.B.I. is conducting a wide-ranging counterintelligence investigation into Russia’s meddling in the election, and is examining alleged links between Mr. Trump’s associates and the Russian government. Separately, the House and Senate intelligence committees are conducting their own investigations, though they must rely on information collected by the F.B.I. and intelligence agencies. (link)
Is it legal for a sitting President to be "wire tapping" a race for president prior to an election? Turned down by court earlier. A NEW LOW!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 4, 2017
I'd bet a good lawyer could make a great case out of the fact that President Obama was tapping my phones in October, just prior to Election!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 4, 2017
How low has President Obama gone to tapp my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 4, 2017





Shawn Ryan/ AJ (Why Files) clip pertaining to NSA, Patriot Act, FISA
Sundance
I fully support your keeping this story at the front of the Treehouse for as long as necessary for everyone who needs to see it, to see it.
I suggest labeling it Part Two, and Bringing the First Half of Outline Five to the Front of the Que with it Labled Part One.
Both parts are essential Reading for anyone in the Trump White House that is serious about cleaning out the corruption.
Especially Part Two.
Thank you for this incredible Service!!
Is Five Eyes used as a way to get around any restrictions against spying on citizens of their own countries?
Grok 3 AI:
The Five Eyes alliance—comprising the United States, United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand—is an intelligence-sharing agreement that allows these countries to collaborate on signals intelligence (SIGINT) and other surveillance activities. A common concern is whether this alliance is used to circumvent domestic laws that restrict spying on a country’s own citizens.
The arrangement does raise questions about potential loopholes. Each Five Eyes country has domestic laws that limit surveillance of its own citizens, often requiring warrants or specific oversight. For example, in the U.S., the Fourth Amendment and laws like the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) set boundaries for domestic spying. However, through Five Eyes, countries can share intelligence gathered by their partners, which may include data on their own citizens collected by a foreign agency not bound by the same domestic restrictions. This creates a scenario where, for instance, the UK’s GCHQ could collect data on U.S. citizens and share it with the NSA, potentially bypassing U.S. legal protections.
Historical leaks, like those from Edward Snowden in 2013, have fueled these concerns. Documents revealed programs like PRISM and Tempora, showing extensive data collection by Five Eyes agencies, including instances where data on citizens was shared across borders. For example, Snowden’s leaks suggested that the UK and U.S. engaged in reciprocal arrangements to access each other’s surveillance data, raising suspicions of deliberate circumvention of domestic laws. A 2012 report from the UK’s Intelligence and Security Committee noted that GCHQ could access data from the NSA without always requiring a warrant, as long as the data was collected under U.S. legal frameworks.
On the other hand, Five Eyes members insist that their intelligence-sharing operates within legal boundaries and is primarily focused on foreign threats, such as terrorism or cyberattacks. Official statements, like those from the U.S. Office of the Director of National Intelligence, emphasize that data sharing is governed by strict agreements, with safeguards like “minimization procedures” to limit the exposure of citizens’ data. The 2015 U.S. Freedom Act and similar reforms in other Five Eyes countries tightened oversight, requiring more transparency and judicial review. Yet, critics argue these safeguards are often vague or insufficient, especially given the broad scope of modern surveillance technologies.
The legal gray area lies in the differing standards across countries. What one nation deems lawful collection might not meet another’s domestic requirements, and the lack of public transparency about Five Eyes operations makes it hard to verify compliance. A 2018 European Court of Human Rights ruling on UK surveillance practices (Big Brother Watch v. United Kingdom) criticized bulk data collection for lacking sufficient oversight, indirectly pointing to risks in international data-sharing arrangements like Five Eyes.
In short, while Five Eyes is designed for cooperative intelligence to enhance security, the structure of the alliance can enable agencies to access data on their own citizens indirectly through foreign partners, potentially skirting domestic restrictions. Evidence from leaks supports the plausibility of this happening, though official denials and legal reforms aim to address concerns. The opacity of the system, however, leaves room for skepticism about how tightly these practices are regulated.
The Five Eyes only have eyes for you! LOL
Thanks! Now I’m going to have to look up that song! Sorry, I don’t know how to post it.
shoobop shoobop….
And now…from the Flamingos
Bruno: It’s so simple, too. A couple of fellows meet accidentally, like you and me. No connection between them at all. Never saw each other before. Each of them has somebody he’d like to get rid of, but he can’t murder the person he wants to get rid of. He’ll get caught. So they swap murders.
Guy: Swap murders?
Bruno: Each fellow does the other fellow’s murder. Then there is nothing to connect them. The one who had the motive isn’t there. Each fellow murders a total stranger. Like you do my murder and I do yours.
Guy: We’re coming into my station.
Bruno: For example, your wife, my father. Criss-cross.”—Alfred Hitchcock’s “Strangers On a Train”, 1951
Like Hitchcock’s “Strangers on a Train”, the Five Eyes Governments are swapping crimes. “We’ll spy on your citizens if you spy on ours. Criss-cross”.
This is similar to the corrupt bargain The Obiden Installation worked out with Big Tech. Social Media did the censoring for the Regime while the Occupation Gumment let them spy on customers, sell their info and engage in monopolistic practices and business fraud.
So, our privacy was gone a long time ago and there is nothing we can do about it. Well, I just have one thing to say to them now.🖕
It gets creepier: Ask the ChatGPT about 7, 9, and 14 eyes
Obama-gate
Shout out to the brave American lad who defended women on a tramline in Dresden, Germany from abuse by illegal immigrants and was subsequently sliced across the face with a six inch blade. The illegal immigrant, who of course has multiple priors, was released from custody hours later.
Migrants in Dresden harass women on the tram, then slash an American man’s face open as he tries to intervene
I agree though probably more appropriate for the Daily thread. 😉
What blows my mind is that FBI contractors were allowed to download data that carried some sort of level of classification.
In DoD, we are instructed yearly about handling classified material, and that we can be fined and or jailed for mishandling same.
Intentional spillage of classified material from a secure server to a non-secured one is a crime.
We know that people in the government read this site, so why isn’t anybody in the Republican party or Trump administration raising hell about this?
But if they acknowledge reading it here, then they can’t pretend not to know when it’s convenient for them!
Sundance, I love you man! I know all of this, only because of you. With that said, up until this article, you too have been pretty clear about how important it is for the Republic’s continued existence that the Russiagate Conspirators go to prison. Yet, now you are downplaying it as less important. I don’t think Solomon is doing anything different. In fact. Frankly, nothing matters anymore. The left will continue to believe what the Democrat Media Complex tells them to believe. It won’t matter who goes to prison (if they ever do), the media will proclaim it was Trump who weaponized gov’t against his enemies. Even if the media covers the problem with the spying, the left has been so brainwashed they will refuse to believe it. According to Rasmussen today, 40% of Americans “Extremely Disapprove” of the job President Trump is doing. 50% APPROVE, but a hard 40% Disapprove + 10% undecided. With this kind of split amongst Americans, how will we ever be able to reconcile with our leftists family members and friends? How do we return to “e pluribus unum”? It horrified me to think we can’t. Not without blood shed triggered, as always by the left.
I’ve always seen these two as part of the same bigger thing: Part of creating Russiagate was Spygate. You prosecute them for the whole thing and implement changes based on all of it.
From Sundance’s lips to Tulsi’s ears!!
MAGA 👊👊🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️❤️
Where is Treehouse? No posts today (8/26). Did this post trigger some reaction from the deep state?
Today’s date is 8/25 in the USA.
The posts for 8/25 start AFTER the “Outline #5” post above. Sundance must have made this post “sticky” (or pinned as they say on X) because he wanted to bring to to people’s attention.
The boy don’t come to play.
Good God, what a mind.
I’ll never quite understand our society’s fascination with either-or frameworks when both-and works quite well.
Case in point, the above. It is illegal to use your badge to advance your personal interests. It is also illegal to violate the 4th Amendment rights of Americans. And it is illegal to pay people to obtain intelligence data. And to sell it, once obtained. Calling them “contractors” means the payees were PAID MONEY to give that data to the payors.
And that illegal spying was used to execute multiple attempted coup d’etats against Trump. And very likely to target threats to uniparty incumbents in both political parties.
Both. And.
Buying a gun illegally on the black market is illegal. That it was later used to commit armed robbery is also a crime. One does not negate the other, even if the intended crime of armed robbery is hard to prove because the robber wore a mask.
What government employees did during the Russia hoax was fabricate evidence to advance the coup while suppressing evidence of the hoax. That includes the illegal spying. But it also includes hiding exculpatory evidence from defendants.
Anyway, we’ll get a lot further if we adopt a both-and framework. Yes, they conspired to break the law through illegal spying. They also conspired to break the law by falsifying documents to give illegal wiretaps the patina of legal legitimacy (color of law). “A judge said we could!” Both were done to overthrow the government by manipulating elections and through an overt attempt to overthrow Trump 45.
Btw, the various attempts to cover up their crimes is evidence of the rolling coup d’etat. Because it shows intent.
I also feel that it is HIGHLY UNUSUAL that many of the Daily Open thread and the Lord’s Prayer are missing for today 25-Aug-2025, as another person commented below. HIGHLY UNUSUAL!
I am praying for Sundance and the CTH, as well as all of us perching on it limbs. Perhaps Sundance put ALL SHIELDS UP after postng all of that truth?
God hates injustice. He will deal with it with righteousness. I can relax knowing truth will be made known. These prideful, vengeful, self loving, power hungry, greedy men & women will have an eternity to ponder their choices in life. This promise brings me peace.
Sorry I think I was thrown off by yesterdays’s post coming up first when I visited this website earlier today. I believe Sundance added a few things to it that weren’t there yesterday. Like that cartoon of Obama. Haha.
It felt good to pray for Sundance. Time for my quartetly tithe coming up next week :-).
Sundance made the post “sticky” so it would remain on top. It must be getting a lot of play on the internet. 🙂

I agree 100%. Spygate is way more important than “Russiagate”. The fact that Spygate rules are still in place is detestable. Thank a Republican or RINO, not a Constitutional conservative (do any of those actually exist?), for this sad state of affairs (renewing the “Patriot” Act.).
The first article mentioned under:
“FOR CONTEXT:
♦ Heat Street (Louise Mensch) Dated November 7th 2016:
Now hyperlinks to non related “MarketWatch” website.
For context …
@ 55 seconds
MARK LEVIN:
Exhibit 1. Exhibit 1:. It’s all public.
(Head) Street. Two separate sources with links to the counter-intelligence community have confirmed to that the FBI sought, and was granted, a FISA court warrant …This is spying … in October, giving counter-intelligence permission to examine the activities of ‘U.S. persons’ in Donald Trump’s campaign with ties to Russia.
Let me go on. This isn’t me.
They say the first FISA request, sources say, named Trump was denied back in June … denied by the court …
PETE HEGSETH: Uh-ha
MARK LEVIN: But the second one was drawn more narrowly and was granted in October after evidence was presented of a server possibly related to the Trump campaign and it’s alledge connection with two Russian banks.
Now sources suggest that a FISA warrant was granted to look for full content of emails and other related documents that may concern US persons.
Now I know that people are hung up with Trump’s word wiretapping but how did they get access to this server information. Does it really matter?
Ifit was wiretapping, electronic surveillance or whatever it was …
@ 8:10
MARK LEVIN READING:
The FBI did a preliminary criminal investigation based on potential of connection between a server in Trump Tower and a couple of Russian banks.
That turned out to be a dry hole.
But one of the most outrageous things I ever seen, he wrote me, totally uncovered by the media of course. Instead of closing the investigation, the Obama Justice Department tried to turn it into a FISA court investigation in June.
Apparently the first application they submitted named Trump.
But we don’t know if whether that means named him as a purposed surveillance target or just mentioned his name in the application someplace.
In any event, even the FISA court which is very solicitous of government surveillance requests said no.
There wasn’t enough for make out probable cause involving Donald Trump.
The required FISA showing to get a wiretap is probable cause.
Probable cause that the target is an agent of a foreign power.
This must mean that in the middle of a campaign while people like …
MARK LEVIN:
Okay, oh I won’t mention what he wrote there
MARK LEVIN READING:
… in the middle of the campaign, Obama’s Justice Department was actively having Trump and some of his associates investigated.
Suggesting to a United States court that they were agents of Vladimir Putin’s regime.
In October, stretch run of campaign and five months after FISA court said no, the Obama Justice Department goes back to the FISA court with what we are told a more narrowly tailored application.
This one does not mention Trump. The FISA court approved it and the apparent targets were Manafort, Stone, and Page.
https://www.marklevinshow.com/2017/03/02/march-2-2017/
Still, the line connecting Mensch’s reporting and Trump’s tweets, while somewhat attenuated, is unmistakable. A Breitbart news story and timeline …
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/03/mark-levin-obama-used-police-state-tactics-undermine-trump/
… published last Friday, which was reportedly widely circulated by White House officials and given to the president, cites some of the same details that first appeared under Mensch’s byline.
This includes her claim that the FBI had made an earlier request in June to conduct surveillance on Trump associates that was turned down by the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court that must approve such warrants.
Mensch, for her part, said, “I stand by every word of my reporting.” But, she repeatedly emphasized, her own account of the FISA warrant — for which she cited two anonymous sources “with links to the counterintelligence community” — is more limited than the version of events tweeted by the president.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/the-woman-behind-the-story-behind-the-trump-twitter-storm-032718563.html
You may say this is off topic
……….I say it is way past time for all the experienced citizens of the USA to stand up.
Never underestimate what determination can do. IOW get u off yer butt and get involved.
NSFW but folks this is reality. This is cheerleading but remember our leader ain’t no Spring chicken.
(You have to make it past the razor ad to get to the meat of the vid)
Well worth it…
Very good article that is now understandable to me.
One point to clarify with you Sundance. If the Collyer opinion were released, unredacted, it would show a certain picture of the spying going on, and still might limit the knowledge of how massive this Spygate scandal is.
To get the best picture, both the Collyer opinion AND the NSA audit logs need to be released as you mentioned in the Prequel.
The Collyer opinion might be limited to Candidate Trump, or perhaps a few within his campaign.
The NSA audit logs will PROVE how big this is by exposing EVERYONE who was spied on.
You have mentioned “political opposition” as a group who were spied on. Who is that? A candidate and a couple close aides? Or all candidates and their close aides?
Or was it ALL candidates, their staff, close aides, potential cabinet officials, other potential political appointees? Regular Americans who might have a social media following supportive of candidates? Campaign donors big and small? Political Action Committees? Their donors?
How extensive was this spying from 2012 until it was shut down? I can’t believe Obama would be using the IRS to collect tax records and intel on non-profit groups who might oppose him, then limit himself to just political candidates when the real spying started.
If Russiagate were the only focus as Solomon wants, then it keeps the focus limited to President Trump. Even if the Collyer report were released, it may only limit the focus to him and a few others.
If Spygate were the focus and the NSA audit logs were reviewed and the names of those spied on become known, then it becomes much bigger with many more voices demanding action.
Given how Congress just renewed FISA, and exempted themselves from it, would anyone have the stomach to demand it be exposed? They are exempt, so why would they care? Unless many others were also spied on and demand action.
Also, given how this information was disseminated to others, Senators, Representatives or current political appointees might think their time to run for President is still coming, right up until some information that was gained under this spying is released and takes them out of a race.
Finally, with what you mentioned about Powers and unmasking and the ability to log in from anywhere, was her login credentials with her name being used by others? Were they used by those overseas? Were they used by those without access to an NSA database terminal like at Perkins Coie? Was her system audited with logs showing where logins were coming from? Was it used by those who had access taken away by Rogers?
The whole unmasking mess seems to have been quietly ignored.
Russiagate – focus on Bad Orange Man
Spygate – suddenly the Bad Orange Man turns into many people demanding to know what kind of spying operation Obama and his flunkies were running.
A very positive new development is Tulsi Gabbard announcing a presidential decision to stop sharing U.S. intelligence with the “five traitorous eyes” of Canada, the UK, Germany, Australia and New Zealand. These five BACKSTABBER NATIONS have been betraying the American people for AT LEAST the past decade.
These are NOT ALLIES of the American people. These five countries are undermining the electoral decisions of the American people because the five HATE TRUMP and have been doing everything they can to destroy the man.
Stop focusing on Russiagate, it’s the shiny thing.
Focus instead on declassifying and releasing the real story of how the NSA database has been used to conduct political surveillance for over a decade.
Obama conducted full spectrum political surveillance with the NSA database from 2012 to 2016. All republican candidates were under surveillance. THAT is the BIG STORY that will shake up DC.
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Most have forgotten…
Back in 2017 when House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes was working to reauthorize the FISA legislation, Nunes wrote a letter to ODNI Dan Coats about this specific issue:
https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/chairman_letter_to_dni_unmasking_drafting_assistance.pdf
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1959920768180973686.html