I cannot give all the particulars to backstop my perspective, however, Vice President JD Vance has traditional training and perspective on leadership within massive organizations, enhanced by his military service. Essentially, ‘never compromise your leadership‘.
Vice President JD Vance would not publish the following message on social media, without previously approving the entire statement through President Donald Trump. If Vance did not discuss this with Trump, Vance would stay quiet. That said, here is the message from JD Vance:
“Look, I’m seeing this from the inside, and am admittedly biased towards our president (and my friend), but there’s a lot of crazy stuff on social media, so I wanted to address some things directly on the Iran issue:
First, POTUS has been amazingly consistent, over 10 years, that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. Over the last few months, he encouraged his foreign policy team to reach a deal with the Iranians to accomplish this goal. The president has made clear that Iran cannot have uranium enrichment. And he said repeatedly that this would happen one of two ways–the easy way or the “other” way.
Second, I’ve seen a lot of confusion over the issue of “civilian nuclear power” and “uranium enrichment.” These are distinct issues. Iran could have civilian nuclear power without enrichment, but Iran rejected that. Meanwhile, they’ve enriched uranium far above the level necessary for any civilian purpose. They’ve been found in violation of their non-proliferation obligations by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), which is hardly a rightwing organization.
It’s one thing to want civilian nuclear energy. It’s another thing to demand sophisticated enrichment capacity. And it’s still another to cling to enrichment while simultaneously violating basic non-proliferation obligations and enriching right to the point of weapons-grade uranium.
I have yet to see a single good argument for why Iran needed to enrich uranium well above the threshold for civilian use. I’ve yet to see a single good argument for why Iran was justified in violating its non-proliferation obligations. I’ve yet to see a single good pushback against the IAEA’s findings.
Meanwhile, the president has shown remarkable restraint in keeping our military’s focus on protecting our troops and protecting our citizens.
He may decide he needs to take further action to end Iranian enrichment. That decision ultimately belongs to the president. And of course, people are right to be worried about foreign entanglement after the last 25 years of idiotic foreign policy.
But I believe the president has earned some trust on this issue. And having seen this up close and personal, I can assure you that he is only interested in using the American military to accomplish the American people’s goals. Whatever he does, that is his focus.” (source)
Accepting what JD Vance is saying here (emphasis mine) the most Occam’s razor implication is that President Trump is going to authorize U.S. bunker busting bombs, the 30,000/lb deep penetrating bombs [GBU-57 Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP)] that only the USA has in the arsenal.
This approach takes the USA activity from “support”, to active operational engagement. Hence Vance saying “take further action,” and the following message from President Trump, “nobody does it better.”




That’s a NO from me Dawg.
Nuclear armed Mullahs – bony, apocalyptic fingers on the buttons … hard pass.
I have no problem whatsoever with the USA helping Israel destroy Iran’s nuclear weapon dreams, and bringing about regime change in Iran.
It should have been done promptly in 1979, but weak, fool, Carter was President, and every President since has not had the balls.
It is necessary for world peace. period.
Several years ago, in these comments, on this website, i did a long write-up about my view on Iran.
Trump is our “MAN OF PEACE” President,
BUT
This is a time for war.
Iran is on it’s last leg.
Taking the mullahs down will not be as big a deal as some of you think.
Gosh; if only Kamala was still VP, or even better… POTUS!
All these troubles would be in the rear view mirror.
(As we escape the mushroom cloud rising above DC and other various State Capitols.)
Sarcasm i hope.
I assumed that too, nobody is that stupid
Are you sure nobody is that stupid? How about all the people who voted for her?
Lighten up guys. Let’s have some fun with it.
I trust President Trump to make the right decision. That’s why I voted for him 3 times.
I also support Pres.Trump. I voted for him 5 times (incl. 2020 and 2024 primaries)
I put my trust in him. All day everyday. Helping Israel in this instance is America first
The link to Vance’s statement isn’t working. Hopefully it wasn’t taken down.
He edited it. Try again.
Still not working, but I found a good link: https://x.com/JDVance/status/1934996183702704404
For those of us who don’t have accounts and wish to read all the comments, an alternative…
https://xcancel.com/JDVance/status/1934996183702704404
Peace through strength.
They need to know, our homegrown terrorists need to know – we have continuity of government. You take out Trump, you unleash hell.
Ironically, that’s very true. Without Trump in the way, the MIC would be having a profitable field day with this situation.
Where do you think the vast majority of ordinance, weapons platforms and equipment used so far, are manufactured?
A lot of comfortable and profitable American lives depend on the manufacturing of war weapons and technologies.
As a young machinist decades ago I made a tough decision, to forge steel into plowshares instead of swords. Still, I recognized the value of self defense and the manufacturing required for it.
Given the reality of millions of foreign invaders being already inside our borders with complete access to those ‘swords’ I’d prefer to see less focus on Iran, et al, and more focus on the enemy inside the gate. Those invaders, and the American infrastructure which supports them are my mission.
I don’t know alot of people speculate COG is unconstitutional and has been running things for a while.
Actually, he is now threatening Iran and appears to want to take the lead position over Israel, not a supporting role.
@MyLordBebo
🇺🇸🇮🇷🚨‼️ TRUMP:
1) Demands unconditional surrender from Iran
2) Says the Ayatollah is an easy target and can be eliminated
3) Has declared USA has air supremacy over Iran
A lot on couple of tweets … I don’t think we’re deescalating soon
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1935015439370727676
@MyLordBebo
Trump can too close to Palantir … palantir wants WW3
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1935016773893403005
You are editorializing.
“We now have…” doesn’t necessarily mean America. “We” can mean the good guys or he’s collectively speaking for the free world. That’s how YOU interpret those sentences, which you’re definitely entitled to do, but that doesn’t mean you got it right.
Those or just warnings before the bombing. He will be able to say he warned everyone. He’s documenting his case before the fact.
He’s negotiating. That doesn’t mean his words are useless. He means what he says. But the goal is not to increase the war.
He is applying leverage. He’s letting them know what could happen if they don’t participate in negotiation instead of continuing to bomb.
President Trump does not want war, but Iran can’t have a nuclear bomb. The reason is they have said death to Israel and to us. They have not wavered in this.
President Trump is working to achieve the least amount of death and the tool he is using right now is negotiation.
I’m glad he’s applying as much leverage as possible because their best choice — and ours — is for them to negotiate an end to the war.
CNN reports Trump has rejected negotiations.
All you seem to miss the point – we’re now taking over Israel’s primary position as leader of this war?
CNN reports many things that are not necessarily true – and many intentional, manipulative lies. CNN is a Soviet-style Influence Operation.
Pure agitprop.
If Iran surrenders, all those profiteers can leave Ukraine alone for now and go rebuild Iran. This will give Trump and Putin time to arrange a peace deal.
Trouble is it’s not the place of the POTUS to decide that.
If a country wants it’s own in-house domestic supply-chain, personal & infrastructure for nuclear energy. That’s their damn business.
The non-proliferative part is a f*cking sick joke, in a world & wider region where Israel, India and Pakistan have nukes.
This’ll be an epic disaster, it’s already boomeranged on Israel, Bibi had to close the borders to stop Israelis from leaving. Just like like Zelensky.
*That’s* how well things are going…
What nonsense. The ski is falling. WWIII. But but but Russia etc.
NOBODY wants Iran to have nuclear weapons. Not even freaking Pakistan.
Whose vision should we trust? President Trump or Squirrel?
Hard choice!
You’re absolutely correct. Iran is isolated, and like you said, nobody wants them to have nukes. The Israelis did 90% of the dirty work, achieved air superiority, and severely degraded Iran’s ability to mount even a defensive response, much less an offensive one. Despite all that, not a single neighbor or alleged ally of Iran (not even Russia) is raising a stink. So what do the chickenhawks here propose? We walk away with the job 90% done, their enrichment capacity still partially operational, and kick the can down the road for another 5 years? This ain’t GWB’s nationbuilding campaign, and if Iran is degraded, there is no risk to US assets…for now. When did we go from a party of pro war to absolutely no war? Some wars are necessary, and the best ones are the ones where we benefit without taking on a lead role. Let the Israelis do their job, and let’s help them. And let the Iranian people take back control of their country, and hopefully give their supreme leader the Mussolini treatment.
When were “we” ever the pro-war party? You really don’t know your history.
Umm…did you forget the GWB years? How many wars did he start? How many necessary? And how many successful? And until DJT, how many wars did we end?
You think that GWB was ever part of “we”? It was obvious while he was in office that he was a left-winger, and he spent Trump’s entire time in office just reinforcing that point.
You might as well cite Amnesty Bush as evidence that “we” have always supported open borders.
Make any excuse you want, both Bushes were Republicans.
The Bush family is part of the UniParty.
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“There is a remarkable amount of sunlight upon the control mechanisms in/around American politics. President Trump has been the impetus to reveal the historic “illusion of choice” that has puzzled many Republican voters for decades.”
“More than at any time in history, right now the great American awakening is showcasing just how the UniParty system in Washington DC operates. All of the professional political institutions of government are fighting desperately to retain their tenuous grip on power.”
[From >Liz Cheney Says Her and her Father Will Vote for Kamala Harris< September 6, 2025, TheConservativeTreehouse]***********
Numerous articles about the Bush Family here at TheConservativeTreehouse place the family in the UniParty. … Such articles have been written for years at this site.
The Great Donald J Trump is the awaited President that the MAGA coalition has been hoping for with each election. RINO stands for Republican In Name Only. A term used for many of our Republican Leaders.
>+Your commentor name is a more appropriate description of the Bush family rather than RINOs or UniParty members.
Again, we all know the dirty history of the Bushes. Yet I was old enough to vote for GWB, and I did. And so did you. Unless you voted for Gore or Kerry. He was a republican and represented the republican party from 2000 to 2008. I am far more informed today than I was back then, and so are you. But i voted for Bush…because the alternative was Kerry. I also voted for McCain…because the alternative was Obama. Yet I couldn’t bring myself to vote for Romney, so I sat that one out.
We did the exact
This ^^^^
In one breath you’re taking out the nukes. In the next breath it’s regime change. But you’re certain we won’t nation build.
The Iranian people are the most educated and westernized in the entire Middle East. They’ll do their own nation building once the 7th century yoke is removed from their neck.
Of course we will nation build.
Just a thought for those advocating for US direct involvement. Iran is approximately 6400 miles from NYC. Super safe distance for US to conduct involvement. Oh, how far away is New Jersey, Michigan, Minnesota or every Left Wing University who have potential Jihadi’s? Is it possible our enemies Russia, China, and others would use those from within to get revenge. They have a few million to select from. We have a problem controlling the riots called rallies in LA, Portland, etc. For those that think we are safe?
You gonna let the radical left and Jihadis dictate foreign policy? Grow a spine.
So, it is an either/or proposition with you. The U.S. cannot walk and chew at the same time… got it. <sarc>
A chickenhawk is literally what you are …. somebody clamoring for war but having no intention of fighting it himself.
LOOK, SQUIRREL!
Hey Israel does not have nukes I don’t know what you’re talking about you just sound absolutely crazy and antisemitic for even leveling those accusations towards the government of being dishonest about that and not signing the nuclear non proliferation treaty and still getting nukes anyway. Oh wait…
Yet somehow in all polls, across the board, entire political spectrum, >96% in Israel support everything the Bibi coalition government is doing, and wants to continue despite any hardships or losses until total victory over the Iranian regime, go figure, 🤣
Iran, is a Proxy war harlot – Second, the funds from North Korea, from Iran, ( Obama ) and others, funds the proxies. Including in Europe, the United States etc. The long term revolutionary push is the Muslim invasion prior to the Muslim control. The UN, being communist: http://www.slideshare.net/slideshow/embed_code/38199716
Fomenting support for the Proxies, communists inside USAID, the UN whining about the Palestinians that Hamas controls, along with the HAMAS propaganda, etc. A point: Hamas must be eradicated to the last person. Not against Palestinians, but Hamas the butchers. History is implicit in the noting of this. Hamas uses their citizens as fodder for the media sycophants – ignorant citizenry at its best. No one wishes human suffering, while delaying the solution for years and years just accelerates the damamge.
Hamas gained power in Gaza in a legitimate, honest election process, after the Israeli “Disengagement” of August 2005, by close to 90% of the population of Gaza. The other 10% were supporters of the PLO (Fatah).
To date, in any poll by any organization, >80% of the Gaza population supports Hamas.
Gaza launched >30,000 rockets and missiles at Israel.
Gaza “Civilians” of all ages took part in the atrocities in southern Israel of October 7th, 2003 (they too themselves filmed and live-stream broadcast what they were doing in real-time).
The fact that Gaza isn’t a barren, smoking hole in the ground since then is baffling and astonishing.
where did you find this information because I’ve seen just the opposite.
heres a quick overview
It was in January 2006 that the Palestinian territories held what turned out to be their last parliamentary elections. Hamas won a bare plurality of votes (44 percent to the more moderate Fatah party’s 41 percent) but, given the electoral system, a strong majority of seats (74 to 45). Neither party was keen on sharing power. Fighting broke out between the two. When a unity government was finally formed in June 2007, Hamas broke the deal, started murdering Fatah members, and, in the end, took total control of the Gaza Strip. Those who weren’t killed fled to the West Bank, and the territories have remained split ever since.
Consider this carefully, great music by the way regardless of the context, while I post the references…
Try another one
This is a self proclaimed neo conservative think tank/propaganda org
It doesn’t matter who posted it, it matters if it is a real video of real events or not.
The same events were documented and publicized by multiple sources, including the persons participating!
what is the benefit for you to lie?
None, so I don’t.
Refute the facts with objective sources, or enjoy the party:
please accept my apology for saying you were lying. i would amend my statement to say you are painting a picture that doesn’t look accurate.
i am waiting on the objective sources
Read this carefully, and note the sources:
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/03/22/poll-hamas-remains-popular-among-palestinians/
Pretty wild that the only source you have is fdd.org a neoconservative think tank
I provided sources for my claims which contain first-party documentation and references for the topics under discussion. The “neoconservative think tank” has multiple sources for every single detail in the report, including and not limited to “Official Palestinian Sources” – so whatever they are, they know how to write a well-referenced factual document, that anyone provided with can check for themselves.
It’s pretty wild that you’ve posted no sources at all, no refutation based on anything at all, at best one undetailed and confused mess of the fact that “Palestinian Territories” don’t have elections anymore, and a well-documented and referenced source is no good because it’s from a source that you allege is “neoconservative”, yet called me a liar…
The readers can consider this and come to their own conclusions.
Not when they make it their very public goal to destroy you.
I’m fine with him dropping a few bombs to halt that activity.
That is not the same thing as boots and tanks on the ground in Iraq and nation building.
Yes, notice how the No War Anywhere/Anytime crowd is mixing those issues…
I did notice.
I also notice that there was not anywhere near the pushback when we bombed ISIS in Syria for a few days in DJT’s 1st term.
The only difference this time is the level of propaganda and the fools that buy it.
Israel, India and Pakistan are not parties to the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty and likely never will be as the treaty only recognized 5 nuclear weapons states. The United States, The Russian Federation (formally the Soviet Union), France, The United Kingdom, and China. And the odd one out, the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea withdrew from the treaty when it developed its own weapons.
Please post specific info about Bibi closing the border to keep Israeli’s in. Name names and sources, please.
And, no, if a country is part of a treaty and they break those rules, like the IAEA just admitted that Iran has done, then it’s no longer just their business.
And why would they need highly enriched uranium if they “only” want civilian nuclear energy?
The three other nations you mentioned have never threatened to wipe another country off the face of the earth using their nukes. BIG DIFFERENCE. You’re more than welcome to move to Iran if you feel the need for solidarity.
So, non-stop chanting of Death to Israel, Death to America is not supposed to mean anything while they build their nukes? We should just ignore those chants? Ignore the fact that Iran has been fomenting wars all over the ME? That they arm the Houthis, HAMAS, Hezbollah and give their families money for martyrs? Or that they want to be the SUPREME Leaders of the entire region?
I mean, who on earth would believe such an entity means no harm when they enrich uranium.
Totally disagree. Iran is a major exporter of terror and the main instigator of unrest in the Middle East.
I firmly believe that IF Iran develops a nuclear arsenal, they WILL use it to annihilate Israel and establish a stranglehold on the entire region.
They must NOT be allowed to possess nuclear weapons. The risk is too great.
Anyone who is a target can decide that a terror state can’t have nukes. What you say can’t be decided is decided before you speak.
Reading comprehension issues?
If Iran was only interested in civilian power generation they wouldn’t be enriching beyond needed levels, and if the didn’t want a weapon they wouldn’t be enriching to a weapons grade level.
I’m sure you see the conundrum…….
Civilian nuclear power generation is a joke. It’s just a cover story. Iran has plenty of energy sources already.
Uhhh… As part of the late Shah’s “White Revolution” national modernization initiative, Iran started to develop a nuclear power program. The initiative was implemented in the early 1960s.
It is not just “their damn business”, meaning the Khomeini regime. It is the business of rational nations to stop them.
Israel/Netanyahu is a solid, legitimate US ally. Zelensky is a grifter.
This site needs a thumbs-down button.
Looks like the supreme leader was out-supremed
Sounds like the bunker he’s holed up in isn’t deep enough.
For now it isn’t….
Yeah, if they had kept their mouth shut about death to Israel and to us (ad nauseam) and waited until they had nuclear bombs they might have been able to achieve their aims, or at least partially.
But they were big mouths who telegraphed their goals. What’s surprising is no one stopped them before this. Goes to show you TPTB didn’t want them stopped.
You might wonder why President Trump didn’t take them on in his first administration. He was too busy trying to stay President and also they weren’t as close as they are now.
Iran has always been a huge sh** talking nation.
Let em all go find their 10000 virgins.
See you in hell supreme leader.
I read this having listened this morning to Tucker’s interview with Steve Bannon, and a week after TC’s interview with Jeffrey Sachs. Bannon and Carlson exchanged stories on how brilliantly the CIA can play the public.
My conclusion? The most effective thing one can do when the truth becomes so slippery is to pray. Seriously.
Ask God (Who is not fooled or misinformed) to unmask the manipulators, to out the deep economic interests and the public servants who serve them, and to disrupt the plans of those who wish to see people killed needlessly. Praying those things I don’t have to ask God to take sides, or agree with my best assessment. Those are all things specific in scripture that confirm His will for His creation.
If we accept that Divine Intervention showed itself on July 13 last year…which I do…it is a futile exercise to worry or argue when we know God is there before us.
In His hands be it…..
His will be done 🙏🏻
All the times President Trump said Iran must never have a nuclear weapon, at this link.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/06/president-trump-has-always-been-clear-iran-cannot-have-a-nuclear-weapon/
When President Trump says something of this magnitude, he MEANS it.
Not like Biden’s idiotic “Don’t!”s, which nobody took seriously.
America First is NOT incompatible with Iran Shall Not Be Allowed Nuclear Weapons.
On the contrary.
Or Obama’s Red Line.
Well said!
It comes down to how sincere in thier beliefs the mullahs are. The shia twelvers follow a prophecy found in a cave, written in blood a thousand years ago. It says that they must destroy Israel, or at least Jerusalem. And from the ashes will rise a small army of jews who will accompany them. And the 12th mahdi will reveal himself. Then he will lead them all to take Mecca, unleashing a thousand years of darkness…er, worldwide caliphate. If they are devout, deterrence won’t work. The best you can hope for are the conditions of Omar (ten years pause). They see the prophecies coming true. The cheetah has been seated on the throne of Saud, and his reign has ended, he is off the throne. The prophecy says this indicates the period of occultation is ended, and the 12th mahdi is alive, now, today. This is about the red and white books of al-Jafr, the armor and the sword of mohammed, the bloodlines of mohammed, and the sunni/shia shcism. If the mullahs are truly devout, they will stop at nothing to achieve thier goals, which all start with the destruction of Jerusalem. If they are practical, and using theology for control, without themselves being fanatics, only then is peace likely. This is the calculation to be made. Alas I fear there is little understanding of this in western governments.
And the current leaders of the Iranian nation believe it is their duty to their god to make sure this happens.
Agree, the fact that people don’t understand this in western nations is beyond baffling. The current leaders of Iran are beyond fanatical zealot believers in their ‘mission from their god’.
That’s a very well researched comment and provides the context for what we’re up against.
Because I believe in the God of Abraham I’m backing Trump. You all can run for the hills but I’m standing where I am. Bombs are nothing in eternity but we live on one way or another. Be right with God, the rest will happen as it happens.
Now he is saying the mullahs must give up, surrender.
BREAKING: ISRAELI MEDIA ESTIMATE THAT IRAN HAVE APPROXIMATELY 1,800 BALLISTIC MISSILES REMAINING
BREAKING: Mahmoud Nabavian, Deputy Chairman of Iran’s National Security and Foreign Policy Committee, issued a stark warning to the United States:
“Striking American bases is far easier for us than hitting Israel. If the U.S. plans any aggression against Iran, it must first prepare 50,000 coffins for its forces.”
These people are talking out of their asses.
“Striking American bases is far easier for us than hitting Israel. If the U.S. plans any aggression against Iran, it must first prepare 50,000 coffins for its forces.”
Really? What are you waiting for Mahmoud?
Your missile sites are all being destroyed at the moment!!!
Once again a Muslim talking crap and can’t follow through. What a surprise.
President Trump has regained Presidential Credibility. He said 60 days and Iran got day 61.
Thank You, Sundance!
Another BLESSING…
The LORD has Blessed us with YOU!
Can’t the IDF just starve the guys out of the bunker or poison the air they breathe? How about we sell the bomb and plane to deploy it to the IDF?
Grasping for alternatives to our direct involvement. Rather we save bunker bombs for the Cartels, our most clear and present danger.
The IDF can take out the bunkers themselves, the GBU-57A/B MOP just makes it easier and faster (if it actually works!)
The IDF is humiliating the Iranian regime across the board.
President Trump likes winning, and wants to have a (well-deserved!) prominent position in this great victory (without US troops having to have been involved at all, except maybe a B2 crew).
It works, the 57 has meaning. It will pass through 57 feet of reinforced concrete….then detonate. Personally I’m in favor of reaching the stratosphere in a viable bomber, then GBUs will become obsolete.
The bunker at Fordo is supposed to be 70-90 meters deep [in another discussion on here we looked it up].
I personally would love to see if it works, how well, and what’s the actual results.
Your idea of stratospheric bombing is intriguing, that would solve the problem of lofting a “rod from God” to suitable altitude 😉
You would need to control the land around the bunker(s). That means boots on the ground. I suggest no.
That was well written. I really don’t want us involved in this war. I believe that if there is any possibility to avoid this through negotiations that will bring Iran into normal relations with everyone that would be ideal. I think Iran having the ability to enrich for nuclear power only is acceptable as long as it can be verified and monitored properly. If that is the deal breaker let’s find a way to make it happen without violence. Maybe Russia and China could help.
I’m afraid that America’s persistent habit of conducting “regime change” in countries all around the world, including in many which pose zero threat to America, constitutes a pretty good argument for other countries to want nuclear weapons.
Indeed, if they make it out of this somehow, first thing they should do is start enriching.
Too late, they already did for years, the main reason for this war was is that they had plenty, in addition to their thermobaric ballistic missile arsenal.
They have shown us no proof.
The Iranians themselves repeatedly stated this, that they had reached extreme enrichment and had significant quantities, proudly.
No one factually informed argues that Iran doesn’t have sufficient quantities of proper quality enriched uranium to make a certain number of fission bombs – the only questions are: do they already have such (a) bomb(s), or will they make them. There is no question whatsoever if they could – they can.
These are facts regardless of any political position one may have.
Guess you side with Iran
It’s not America’s habit or President Trump’s. It is the Deep State’s evil habit. And their own Regime Change is upon them.
The possible exception may be nukes, which would be a counter-argument to your thesis.
ps; anyone remember when a mountain caved in on the Nork’s program?
Isaiah 54:
10 For the mountains may be removed,
and the hills may shake,
but My kindness shall not depart from you,
nor shall My covenant of peace be removed,
says the Lord who has mercy on you.
11 O afflicted one, tossed with tempest and not comforted,
I will lay your stones with fair colors
and lay your foundations with sapphires.
12 I will make your windows of agates,
and your gates of crystal,
and all your borders of precious stones.
13 All your sons shall be taught of the Lord,
and great shall be the peace of your sons.
14 In righteousness you shall be established;
you shall be far from oppression,
for you shall not fear,
and from terror,
for it shall not come near you.
15 Indeed they shall surely assail you fiercely, but not from Me.
Whoever assails you shall fall for your sake.
16 See, I have created the smith
that blows the coals in the fire
and who brings forth an instrument for his work;
and I have created the destroyer in order to cause ruin.
17 No weapon that is formed against you shall prosper,
and every tongue that shall rise against you in judgment, you shall condemn.
This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord,
and their vindication is from Me,
says the Lord.
Lord, we stand on Your Word and speak our heritage and Your vindication, Hallelujah!
The Deep State literally is America. It is the controlling power in this country. Electing Trump was one small step in trying to change that.
The Deep State is a colony of self-serving parasites that endangers its host.
You forgot to say “suicidal parasites.”
They seek the destruction of their host, even if it causes their own.
Read Atlas Shrugged.
I don’t agree with Ayn Rand on everything but she sure understood the psychology of Evil.
The Deep State is NOT America.
Americans are America.
It is just that so many have been deceived for so long, and others have been afraid.
But the deception has grown so large and untenable that it is impossible to hide it any longer.
Now is a Great Sifting where people are being forced to make a decision to either see or be willfully blind.
Choices have consequences.
Choices between Good and Evil have Eternal consequences.
The Deep State/Uniparty are not the country.
” No weapon that is formed against you shall prosper,
and every tongue that shall rise against you in judgment, you shall condemn.
This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord,
and their vindication is from Me,
says the Lord.”
AMEN and AMEN
We claim The Promises of The LORD!
I think that for any country that wants us dead regime change is more humanitarian than cinders.
Israel knew damned well they couldn’t finish the job on the deep facilities way before they took action. Either Trump also knew and agreed secretly to help a while ago or he is being suckered into this war. American lives will be lost, the question is how many.
“Israel knew damned well they couldn’t finish the job on the deep facilities”
Not true, stop being a parrot, The IDF can do it themselves, the GBU-57A/B MOP(s) would just make it faster [and a good, justified opportunity to find out if GBU-57A/B MOP actually works].
Okay. Let them finish it themselves, since they have the capability. I am not keen on using yet another foreign conflict as a proving ground.
No problem, but the elected President and government of the US decide that matter, all I’m saying is it doesn’t really factually matter and isn’t vitally needed by Israel, this whole fake “US boots on the ground” argument looks like manipulation.
How is Israel or anyone for that matter, using weaponry purchased from the US any different from the US themselves dropping their own bomb on someone [not talking about a case where the US says not to]?
Another one who thinks PDJT is either a lying warmonger or a fool sucker.
This place is glowy.
Don’t you people have work to do?
“Da Da Da Da Da,
Da Da Da Da Da…”
THAT was a GREAT TV show!
Barbara Bain…
Here’s another kicker:
If/when this goes south, and Iran shuts the Strait of Hormuz and attacks the oilfield & refineries of the Gulf States along with its allies such as the Houthis.
Then oil goes to $300 a barrel. That’s almost literally the backstory for the plot of Tom Clancy’s Endwar…
Well, the Russians will be happy. Ironically they are the biggest winners from this mess. We’re sending military equipment which was earmarked for Ukraine to the Middle East, and Russia’s oil revenues are increasing rapidly.
Crude (and gold) is lower today than last Friday. Clancy presumably felt he’d need to use conventional wisdom about such things (i.e. crude and gold should be through the roof if we’re on the edge of war) for his story to be believable.
OMG!!! Russian tanks are practically rolling through the Har Megiddo in the Jezreel Valley as we speak!
The oceans are boiling! McDonald’s is out of ice cream for god’s sake!!!!
Wait… did you hear that?…. I swear I just heard trumpets sounding from Heaven!
Are those huge armored locusts??? Attack helicopters??? WTF?
You realize none of that will be allowed to happen, right? And with Trump in office even IF something like that came to pass we were energy independent before and would be again in no time at all. We don’t need oil from anywhere else. Chill.
They learned that lesson during their war with Iraq , didn’t work out well for them then, won’t end well this time either.
Iran can’t even shoot down an Israeli plane yet
Sorry but the Iranians have a lot more to contend with than trying to shut down the strait of Hormuz
They’re getting absolutely decimated at this point.
When the generals and top leaders start handing over power to the next guy it typically means your reign is over. Nobody wants to be the guy holding the bag.
MaYbe we take Irans oil
Remember one does not need a bomb to use plutonium to devastate.
Now Obama – FA AND FO!
Nobody has shown any proof to the American people that they are close to having nukes. It’s all “trust us” so far.
The IAEA has provided said proof just the other day, which is why Israel took action.
Hey, don’t inject FACTS into the conversation! Jeese!
It’s so disappointing to find out that so many people here are just as unhinged or uninformed as the outside world.
Thank you, Observer, for paying attention. 👏
Yes they did.
IAEA is the International Atomic Energy Agency. It is aligned with the United Nations. It has declared that Iran is in non-compliance.
Frankly, I’ve worried more about a nuclear Israel than a nuclear Iran. I think 9/11 and the Israeli involvement therein proves me right.
Absolutely! And it’s NEVER talked about. You won’t be popular for expressing this, but you are correct.
You can expect Levin and Shapiro to act as a Fifth column.
I’d be plenty worried about Israel too if that were true, thank goodness it’s a fairy tale. Between Israel and Iran, it’s pretty clear which country is our ally and which is our enemy. So, from an American viewpoint (tax2much sounds like something that happens in Europe), not at all worried about Israeli nukes and plenty glad Iran doesn’t have any.
Tell that to the families of dead sailors who were on the USS Liberty when it was attacked by Israel.
Then there was that time the tried to bomb the US embassy in Egypt and blame the arabs. False Flag Levon affair.
I am grateful that my President is clear headed and not a Chamberlain.
Apparently you are much smarter than PDJT. Perhaps you, Tucker and bannon can become his advisers.
Awesome Sauce! Let’s roll out the Regime Change and Make Middle East Great Again! Where did I read it? Paraphrasing, President Trump won’t make perfect decisions but optimal decisions…I’ll roll the dice and bet on our VSG president…God Bless the USA and Israel…
Well, he’s not saying Isreal but ‘we’ so I assume the next move may very well be ours.
Well, getting out of the fan bleachers, joining the winning team on the field and scoring some additional points, is much more effective before the game is over then after…
or next move includes both
“How many times has Iran attacked Americans?”
Google responses:
Pentagon —
Iranian-backed proxies have attacked U.S. forces in Iraq and Syria at least 150 times since President Joe Biden took office, two U.S. defense officials tell VOA.
https://www.voanews.com/a/us-forces-attacked-151-times-in-iraq-syria-during-biden-presidency-/7360366.html
and then:
Iran and its proxy forces have launched 83 attacks against U.S. troops in Iraq and Syria since President Joe Biden took office, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told lawmakers on Tuesday.
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/iran-attacks-us-military-iraq-syria-biden/
I don’t understand why anyone is surprised that POTUS would be steadfast. It’s not rocket science….duh.
How many times have American-backed proxies attacked Russian forces, including inside Russia, since Biden took office?
We’ve on very weak ground in complaining about proxy warfare.
We are not complaining we are doing. Russia is a different thread.
It’s rocket science to Ostriches
AND in Afghanistan, if by proxy.
Never thought I’d say this but I agree with democrats today. Unless Congress declares war, no military action by U.S.
No Congress Without Honest Elections!
He will do what he thinks it is best, just so you’re aware….he can send troops wherever he pleases, then has 30 days to present his rational for his actions to congress (the opposite of progress) and they either declare or they don’t. BTW, exactly when was the last time congress actually declared war?
Might surprise you.
Military action is not necessarily war
Trump 45/47 said….
“We now have complete control over the skies…..”
We……f’in we……????
Trump’s gotta be some kind of semitic King!
Lol
Israel made that claim 2 days ago.
Who supplied the refueling planes that allowed the Israeli Jets to make the 1000+ mile trip to control Iran’s skies?
Israel has refueling planes.
I was just thinking about this last night and the fact President Trump has repeated often, Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. And I agree, it would be a sorry world if they were to develop this, it’s not just Israel. They are supreme terrorists and want to conquer the world.
I think Trumps favorability score is going to go into the basement. First he slows down deportation, now he starts a war.
Yes, he once again listens to the ‘establishment’ rather than the American people…so sad…for the American people.
I think it’ll turn out fine, and also that nobody here knows what’s going on in the world or, especially, inside Trump’s mind. So happy for the American people that Trump is POTUS!
100% disagree. Trump isn’t starting a war. Trump is promising to protect America and Americans. There are over 700,000 Americans in Israel. We are close allies.
Israelis with American passports, you mean.
heh…heh…heh….heh 🙁
I’ll have that ear worm for the rest of the day!
Amen.
Between sobs of nabobs of negativism and a plethora of trolls herabouts, I have spent the day curled up under my school desk.
Hope that little frizzy-headed girl was right and the sun really will come out tomorrow so I can go out and play again.
I support President Trump. (And there is no “comma but” in that senetence.)
You forgot the “Nattering” part…
Lots of 1960’s references in these posts.
I saw that skit when it was first performed on TV on the old HeeHaw.
Yep, funny then, funny now. A swig of moonshine or bourbon eases anxiety for all the hand wringers out there.
I trust our fearless CiC and his Commander in Chief, almighty God, Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
Yea Haw for Hee Haw!
Well played, Ad Rem! 😄 My favorite Hee Haw sketch was always this:
I’m sure you’re heartbroken.
That deportation slowdown has already been reversed (and it said the call for the slowdown only occurred because someone beneath President Trump called for it and he reversed that) and the US hasn’t launched anything yet.
Keep trying though. Sooner or later I’m sure your gloom and doom will be proven correct.
I’m pretty sure our President doesn’t give a crap about his favorability. I believe he is trying to keep Israel and America in one piece. They’ll stop taking favorability polls at the first sign of a mushroom cloud.
I think his favorability will continue to rise.
The public predicate for action is being set in real time.
Fordo is toast.
Will Iran shut the Strait of Hormuz?
Russia would benefit from higher oil prices, but China won’t.
Interesting dichotomy that.
Iran can’t shut anything
Gabbard: Trump and I ‘on the same page’ on Iran nuclear development
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/gabbard-trump-and-i-same-page-iran-nuclear-development
What’s the counter Occam’s Razor answer?
Bluffing? Revealing our “great friend” isn’t such a great friend and exposing the war pigs in the US?
One can dream on the latter. 😑
You can dream and make up lies at the same time. A multi tasker.
I don’t want to be in the clown car of back seat drivers.
We voted for the President to be Commander in Chief.
We need to support his judgement, even if we have questions and concerns.
Once Iran has gone nuclear it’s too late to do anything to stop them from complete destruction of the civilized world.
We can pray and know that God’s will be done.
“….clown car of back seat drivers.”
That is pure commentary gold….!!!
Ad hominem
I knew this was a possibility when I voted on Nov.6. I have no concerns or regrets.
Hopefully PDJT and Vance are still just “signalling” in public to Iran – negotiate now to give up their nuke program or else.
But they are telegraphing pretty hard that the “or else” is going to be harsh.
Things are getting spicy.
Bullet point 1: The Nimitz CSG had its scheduled replacement of the Carl Vinson CSG accelerated.
Trump has balls the size of Church Bells.
And the brains to back them up.
I am taking a deep deep breath….
Rather would not like us to be involved… but we are.
President Trump has always been good for us, America.
I will trust he still does.
Hoping that whatever has to take place will be for the Good, will be swift and that the tortured Iranian people, especially the women will have a brighter future.
May we bring peace wherever it is needed.
Total surrender. Of Nuclear program. Remember Abdul from Afghanistan? Such is now the case with Kahmenini. PDJT, akin to WW1 trench warfare, suck everyone in the trench, will be interesting to watch this play out. “Blessed are the peace makers”
Well here ya go:
Knock knock, who’s there? Its Moab.
Can I come in?😂
You don’t need to bury a ”peaceful”nuclear facility under 300 feet of rock, you could put it on top of a treeless hill. You don’t spend one trillion dollars to enrich uranium when you generate all your power from the cheapest abundant natural gas on Earth,You dont build thousands of rockets to deliver dates to market,You don’t shout death to America, death to Israel to hear your own voice.You don’t equip Hamas,Hezbollah,Houthi tribe and back Syria just cus.You dont express belief in The reappearance of Muhammad al-Mahdi the Twelver eschatological belief in the return of their Hidden Imam in the end of time to establish peace and justice on earth.I’m not in the inner circle but its now or never to end the blacked-robed demons of allah and their ”peaceful”nuke program.They are as intent as ever on removing Jews from the ME, Jews that have nukes and the Samson option .Tulsi lost in the weeds?
Well said. That elephant in the middle of the room is Evil. Eiher they can give up their enrichment or he can get an early ticket to meet the Mahdi. It is difficult to negotiate with Evil. The talkers like Alex Jones, Sachs, Tucker want to keep talking. Everything can be solved by talking. Those types of folks cannot make hard decisions to keep us free. They are Neville Chamberlains.
I have no objection to Trump assisting the Israelis. The Fordow nuclear facility is the crown jewel of Iranian terror. The terrorists are reeling. Finish the job and do it rapidly.
That or unconditional surrender and the Mullahs banished never to return to power. I’ve tired over these many years of their arrogant screeching of DEATH, DEATH, DEATH. The Persian people should have their country back from these mad men.
I trust President Trump.
Live your best life.
Interesting, 2 days ago Israel said they have complete control of the skies and also announced for residents to leave Tehran for their safety.
I would rather take all the risk of eliminating iran’s possibility of getting a nuclear weapon, versus the risk of them actually getting a nuclear weapon.
Agree, I think I’m going to have to trust that they were this close to developing one and that’s why action was taken. This has been pussy footed around enough over the last decade or so. This is also one “regime change” I support.
Think he will authorize the MOP’s unless the Mullahs abdicate.
From colleague Dan Scully. Vance as he leaves Capitol Hill.
The President has been very clear, Iran can’t have a nuclear weapon, and part of that is that they’re not allowed to have enrichment..
We continue to pursue that policy through every means possible to the president United States.
He, of course, will make any decisions about what we do next.
But I just it’s so bizarre to me that the Iranians seem confused about what’s going on.
The President has been as clear as possible for as long as possible that part of his new nuclear policy is Iranians are not allowed to have enrichment in their country..
The President is making clear to the American people and the entire world that his policy is that Iran can’t have a nuclear weapon, and that part of that is that they’re not allowed to have enrichment in the country.
And there are many different ways, many different options at the President’s disposal for how to accomplish that ultimate policy goal.
But that is the policy goal.
And I think right now, we’re trying to explain why that matters to the American people, why it matters to the President United States and we’ll keep on doing that
Anything short of Iran halting all missile strikes and inspection of all nuclear facilities, I believe Sundance is correct.
The Neocons are very clever. Ever since 1992 or before, the neocons have wanted war with Iran. What will Turkey do? Erdogan wants back the Ottoman Empire. Worse, what will North Korea do? Not our war. we haven’t won a war in my lifetime.
When the Enola Gay dropped the first atomic bomb on Hiroshima, the destruction was so immense that Truman assumed Japan would immediately surrender. But the Japanese warlords were so entrenched and fanatical in their thinking that it took a second bomb dropped on Nagasaki to force them to surrender!
The Ayatollah is as entrenched and fanatical in his thinking as those Japanese warlords and negotiationing with such a mind is fruitless. So dropping the bunker busting bomb becomes as inevitable as Nagasaki. It is the only way to end Iran’s pursuit of a nuclear bomb!
And they STILL took several more days to surrender!
Mossad’s VIP Pedophile Blackmail Material Hacked by Iran Days Before Israel Declared War
https://rumble.com/v6uu47j-mossads-vip-pedophile-blackmail-material-hacked-by-iran-days-before-israel-.html
For all of the people wanting to avoid war with Russia and China. This was the big dog move that had to happen.
Establish adherence to a red line, and follow through. Putin was beginning to see Trumps patience regarding the ru/ukr war as weakness.
Ah, the old “peace through war” strategy!
The way to avoid war is to avoid war. Not to engage in it. WE are the aggressor in the Ukraine war.
WE meaning the Biden Administration. And it’s pretty obvious the Putin was aware of that and aware that things would be different if/when Trump and the adults were back in power.
I and over 50% of the population were NOT part of the aggressors.
The “West” is itching for war and the spoils they think it’ll bring.
The core Americans and I would argue the majority were not for that war and warned of the consequences, which did happen.
The political entity called America was and is the aggressor in Ukraine. What you or 50% of Americans think is meaningless. The state never bothers to pretend to care what its subjects think about its actions.
actually victoria nuland was in action well before the biden admin. watch ukraine on fire; oliver stone
Yep.
No im not advocating the neocon Lindsey Graham escalate in Ukraine to deescalate with Russia.
I’m advocating an establishment of deterrence and credibility. Against a theocratic thug state who has advocated the destruction of the us and attacked us soldiers.
Exactly how many Americans have they killed?
How many have the cartels and fentanyl killed, 500,000?
Comparing the Iranians to any other destructive force is not useful. The Iranian government has killed hundreds of Americans and many of its own people, but they were planning on using a nuclear weapon to destroy millions of Israelis and an unknown number of millions of Americans. They are a government that tried to assassinate Trump, and has a history of many assassinations. They are a government that was planning on giving nuclear weapons to the terrorist group, The Houthis. You might be interested in General Flynn’s assessment about Iran and his being in complete agreement with Israel’s need to destroy Iran’s nuclear weapons, ballistic missile program, and the scientists and military officers engaged in actively trying to kill Israelis and others. You may be too young to remember the Beirut bombings in which over 200 US servicemen were blown to bits by Iran.
I remember the Beirut bombings. There was no definitive knowledge of who was responsible. The US government and other sources suspected the Islamic Jihad and Hezbollah. Syria or Iran was never proven but suspected because of their for support for those groups.
What a ridiculous analogy.
Well over a million
“War is a failure of policy.”
You’re certainly correct concerning Ukraine, but there is NO achievable peace by ignoring Iran. That’s called pretending.
We may or may not be the aggressor in that war but great wars can be avoided by early small wars, eg ww2
Not what the majority of us voted for.
Trump has been transparent about Iran
If Iran I had actually done something to us to trigger this sudden need to flatten their country, then I’d be all in.
But, the fact is, they haven’t, and this just looks like another standard Neocon regime change playbook, which means the Deep State / AIPAC now has Trump on their leash – something I never thought I’d see.
In fact, the playbook is so obviously standard that it is insulting to Trump – they didn’t even try to change it to give him some cover or make it look different. He’s just acting his part. We’ve got the WMD angle covered, so I guess we wait for the missile that hits some ship to get it going fully.
I supported Trump because I thought he would stand up to them and get rid of them so that we could focus upon our country, free of their evil control and manipulation that kept getting us involved in other people’s wars.
I suspect you are very young if you don’t know what Iran did to US, or perhaps just disingenuous.
The latter for $200 Alec.
Iran doesn’t appear to need a nuclear weapon to annihilate Israel.
Israel needs to sucker the US into supporting them to defeat Iran.
It’s past time to cut Israel loose and let the chips fall where they may.
That may be the “joy” (?) of those sick deeply in their souls, who believe Jews are at the root of their personal unfulfillment, emotional sterility, and spiritual darkness.
Sane people will not want to gamble with the survival of the Jewish state.
Sounds like you’re speaking for God.
Thanks, I do know my responsibilities already.
I’m sure PDJT will take your sage advicel very seriously
I voted for him to do whatever needs to be done. No matter the situation. He has the Intel we do not.
Exactly.
If we’re honest with ourselves, we would be outraged if Biden were doing this.
100% correct! That is the post of the day!
Not outraged. Surprised.
Given the senility of the corrupt “president* ” and the fact that he was surrounded by Jew-hating Obola leftovers.
How would you know that? We who voted for him heard what he said, numerous times. He wants to be the President who brings peace but he also said he knows the hard task that is and there will be times of necessity when force is the only option. Contain the force needed and minimize the damages. You might be ready to turn away from him, but I seriously doubt the majority of his voters think the same.
Because all of our other ME wars, and $16 Trillion in lost treasure, got us so much. Right …
The failures did not include Israel and Israel has so far handled almost all the risk
The US / CIA / NATO / neo Nazi Ukrainians started the war in Ukraine. They want to control Russia and it’s wealth. Get out of NATO. What other country has Putin ever invaded??? Stop funding and supplying this evil Ukrainian / EU war.
I’m well aware of what preempted the war in Ukraine and have spoken out against ukr for years at this point.
What I’m saying is there needed to be something done to reestablish deterrence. Iran if you look at it would be a perfect and justified venue to do it
The purpose of the Ukrainian-proxy war with Russia was like a Banderillero with a bull.
Trump and Putin have a Red October level of communications and understanding of each others intentions. I’m not even worried about that. Putin is doing the US public a favor in a sense. If they decide to close the deal, no more CIA in Ukraine and maybe some useful truth may come out of it… not that they wouldn’t deny it all as “Russian disinformation!”
Putin
You don’t have to read Putin’s mind to know the sanctions lobby red-line.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2017/07/27/congressional-testimony-the-russians-paid-fusion-gps-to-generate-the-golden-shower-trump-dossier/
weakness
Ukraine’s sanctions lobby has been establishing red-lines since NeverTrump 1.0.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446