I have outlined my general opinion about labor unions [HERE]. Now we are going to focus on the realities, politics and economic outcomes from an International Longshoremen’s Association (ILA) strike.
I mostly support the strike. I even mostly support ILA President Harold Daggett, a man of notoriously intemperate and sketchy disposition. Daggett grew up in Queens, New York, directly at the same time and place as another wildly attacked industrialist turned titan of politics. It is safe to say, they know each other; but I’ll get to that later.
Let’s turn to the issues that matter. The dockworker strike has the potential to have major ramifications against the U.S. economy. If the docks don’t work, the imports and exports don’t happen. This could be a big mess, a really big mess if it goes on for a long time.
“People never gave a sh!t about us until now, when they finally realize that the chain is being broke now. Cars won’t come in, food won’t come in, clothing won’t come in.”
This union leader makes $900,000 per year. Maybe not the best spokesperson.
— Wall Street Silver (@WallStreetSilv) October 1, 2024
U.S. MEDIA – The US port workers launched the strike due to a labor dispute with employers’ group United States Maritime Alliance (USMX), after their six-year contract expired.
For their new contract, ILA wants USMX to increase wages by 77 percent over six years and bar any automation, which they believe threatens workers’ jobs.
While USMX offered to raise wages by 50 percent and keep current automation checks in place, ILA said that was not enough, especially in light of the industry’s massive profits during the COVID-19 pandemic, and inflation that has affected how far their previous paychecks went.
“We are prepared to fight as long as necessary, to stay out on strike for whatever period of time it takes, to get the wages and protections against automation our ILA members deserve,” ILA head Harold Daggett said in a statement Tuesday. (read more)
Notice how the media always present the verbiage of the dockworker’s employers as “employers’ group USMX,” without actually noting the employers’ group are the port owners, multinational shipping conglomerates and as a consequence, foreign countries.
In material fact, most critical ports in the USA are owned by foreign entities. As a result, the ILA are striking against the ideological, political and financial interests of mostly foreign entities (USMX).
Also, the ILA wage increase demand is spread over six years and vehemently opposed by the same people who tell me I just need to accept the 70% price increase in food, insurance, housing and general stuff I use all the time. I digress.
Yes, it is true that Harold Daggett is not exactly the Lech Walesa of organized labor. The ILA president is reported to earn $900,000 per year in salary, drive a Bentley and even own an expensive 76-foot yacht. There is also a better than average likelihood he may be familiar with violence.
Obviously, Daggett’s propensity toward foul language infers he did not attend Harvard and Yale, and his compensation in representing 50,000 members is heretofore designated as mafioso type income. Because only those of high-brow disposition who sit around mahogany desks in pin-striped double vested acumens, should be afforded such financial indulgences as they shuffle papers electronically to generate such personal revenue.
I understand. No, really, I do.
Remember, back when the people in Chicago were orchestrating the rise of Obama, we were confronting the purple orcs of the SEIU and AFSCME. Back then, I often said that opposing or supporting organized labor is akin to riding a dragon.
The organized labor dragon holds a self-interest that can turn quickly against any short-term issue of unified interest. It is impossible to avoid risk of getting burned, when you accept the risk of dragon-riding. Barack Obama knew how to ride dragons. Until 2016 and the rise of President Trump, our team had no dragon riders.
On the demand side of the equation, beyond the compensation demand of the ILA (Daggertt), the ILA wants to eliminate the threat posed by automation. Many voices say this is a ridiculous demand; after all, when you combine artificial intelligence, automation, robotics and remote access capabilities, it is clearly predictable that a time will come when 80% of the ILA jobs can be replaced by remote controlled operational systems.
In China, many industrial ports are already fully automated and operated remotely by people using what look like gaming consols, robotics and computer screens.
US #Port Strike by 45,000 Dockworkers Is All but Certain to Begin at Midnight who doesn’t want automation. Meanwhile in China – pic.twitter.com/4C8p1eCT8H
— sceptical_panda (@sceptical_panda) October 1, 2024
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This brings me to the main point that most overlook.
In Asia and Europe, port automation is happening rapidly. However, in Asia and Europe they have rules and regulations against foreign ownership of their ports. In Europe, Asia and particularly China, ports are considered critical national security infrastructure by the politicians who represent the people. In the USA our politicians represent the multinational corporations and as a result we have sold the majority of our ports to Saudis, Qataris, Europeans and Chinese owners.
If Chinese ports are automated in China, they are operated by Chinese owners. If American ports are automated in the USA, they are operated by Chinese owners. It doesn’t take a genius to see the problem.
Fast forward to 2035, all of our critical ILA members have given up and gone to work for Wal Mart in the face of overwhelming opposition against them by a short-sighted American electorate. The children of the dockworkers are now addicted to prescription narcotics, and the docks are automated by German industrial machinery, facilitated by Chinese technology that was purchased by Chinese owners. The machinery is operated remotely by Chinese, Indian and Pakistani workers getting $5/hr.
After seamless integration, China decides to take the geography of New Zealand as the latest strategic notch in their Belt and Road initiative. Wait, wha… the American politicians shout, “this cannot stand.” But it does, because if the USA tries to make a move against it, the docks in the USA are brought to a halt by China.
Sound crazy?
‘Crazy’ was 9-years ago when CTH was warning about a weaponized FBI operating like the Russian FSB. ‘Crazy’ was our warning that a DC-based intelligence apparatus was conducting surveillance of a presidential nominee. ‘Crazy’ was our alarms ten years ago that various interests of the DoS and DHS were deep inside the mechanisms of social media, controlling the content of private conversations. THAT was then considered “crazy.”
What we are talking about now against the rise of artificial intelligence (AI), robotics and remote automation, is not crazy; it’s predictable reality if the efforts of the ILA fail.
Now do you see why I support them.
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We have a dragon rider who not only understands the stakes. He’s also smart enough to ride the dragon while wearing an invisible suit. That invisible suit is why we call him the “blue-collar billionaire.”
Just because Silicon Valley has shifted to replace wingtips with sneakers, doesn’t mean the outcome changes. And yeah, keep using class warfare in your arguments and efforts to make me hate Harold Daggett, and I’ll pretend not to notice the Balenciaga label on your T-shirts.
Perhaps the best compromise would be a two-issue dynamic:
♦ First, all foreign ownership, influence and control over USA ports must be eliminated. ♦ Second, 100% of all equipment, machinery, hardware and software, used in every aspect of the port automation process, must be manufactured inside the United States of America.
Put those two qualifiers into the port contract negotiations as expressed by ILA President Harold Daggett, and watch what happens.
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Longshoreman’s wife speaks out about the port strike.
⬇️⬇️ pic.twitter.com/ej6sFtlrq3— Jen (@JPo1369) October 1, 2024

The ILA union locals collect 10% of workers’ straight time pay and ILA collects 1%. With 47,000 members, those dues add up to over $400 million per year. It would be interesting to see how that is spent.
Probably not that much, because most don’t work full time. They only work when there’s a ship in port, and then it’s by seniority. The most junior longshoremen probably work about 2 days a week on average. I’d also add that in some cases, the work is so hard that a human being can’t do it 5 days. Now, the more senior guys work softer jobs (winches, containers, etc.), so they can work full-time.
At least part of that goes to unionized worker’s retirement and health care benefits. My late mother was able to live comfortably for the last years of her life because of my late step father’s pension. She great health care benefits too. What Social Security gave her was a mere pittance by comparison and she worked into her 70s.
Any automation must be controlled/manned by Americans as well.
the critical point
Question: “Now do you see why I support them?”
Answer: YES!!!
Yes, but I still think Daggett is a thug.
You don’t get to be union president without being mobbed up. It’s simply not done…
Your perception is a direct result of what media has chosen to show you. I suffer the same.
I do see an upside from shutting down the ports. Let us all understand and appreciate how the goods we demand presently come about. We as a society need this understanding.
Sometimes you need a bad guy to take on even worse guys.
Would like to learn more. “Port facilities” can mean anything. Who actually hires stevedores? AFAIK it is the terminal operators.
ILA has been fighting automation since the 60s. They hate containerization (recall the “50 mile” rule where any container opened within 50 miles of a port had to be handled by ILA labor). They also control who can work and when.
Here the ILWU (west coast) they get $140K/year to sit in the A/C cab of a container crane.
Remember that not everyone is “in the crane”.
It is a very highly skilled job with massive responsibilities regarding safety of the cargo and, their coworkers.
> Here the ILWU (west coast) they get $140K/year
ERMAGERD NO!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! (insert crazy glasses lady here)
You’re telling me that the highly skilled/trained workers who run the (Chinese?) gantries in Seattle–moving 600,000-750,000 TEUs a month of essential goods from ship to shore and/or back again–you’re telling me……..
YOU’RE TELLING ME….
…THAT SOME ARE EARNING 16% MORE THAN THE SEATTLE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME?????????????
HOW UNFAIR!
Those disgusting blue collar grunts were born into their caste, and their wages should always be grunt wages!
HOW DARE THEY MAKE A SOLID MIDDLE CLASS INCOME IN HIGH COST URBAN AREAS!
THEY ARE BLUE COLLAR GRUNTS!
DON’T THEY KNOW THEIR PLACE IN THE NEOFEUDAL CASTE SYSTEM??????
Thanks for making us think, I get the part of the foreign ownership, but daggetts’ co defendent was found dead in the trunk of a car during his genovesee crime family trial . Talk about a hobsen’s choice
Nice port ya got here. Be a shame if something happened to it…
Say that in Chinese would be more accurate
Maybe Tim Walz could help with translation?😉😳
Some of Sundance’s finest exposition right there, folks…
At the top of every union is a scum like this. But the members are some of the worst sheeple on planet earth. And like always, We The People suffer.
I like your take William Wallace.
And scum he is too.
A thought, not against anyone, every one has their opinion. A thought, yes, we suffer. We suffer at our own weakness.’ We are to accustomed to every convenience being readily available. We have gotten away from being self reliant. We rely on other countries for practically every item we choose to buy, whether an actual necessary item, or just a wanted item. We have become weak, in mind, body, morality.
Militarized ports?
Just asking
I largely agree with this Sundance piece. I only want to remind readers of who this dragon to be ridden. Please name me the labor union that stood up for rights of their employees to not wear a mask, and not take an injection they didn’t want to take? Please name it if you can? And which other unions, if any?
Because if the union didn’t fight for these basic human rights of their members than they have no right to speak on their behalf for anything else. How dare they? How dare they abandon their members in need of job support?
If unions cared about their members they could’ve made protecting real rights of labor a yuge membership recruitment pitch! All the workers who’d have joined a union just to get out of employer mandate!! Free faces! Uninjured arms and bodies!
But they didn’t. Unions failed. Because their leaders wanted to fail. Never forget who else is in this foxhole for this battle. The rank and file are good people. Welcome! The leaders are scum. Always have a weapon ready, pointed in their general direction. They’re against their own member’s interests at the end of the day. There’s a ‘get’ in this for Daggett. And those he really works for, which isn’t union members.
I’m not interested in that. I just want to see what happens when people down tools, because if Trump is cheated, we ALL down tools.
What does “when people down tools” mean? When people don’t own tools?
I’m not putting words in your mouth, but I find your post difficult to discern.
Down tools means when they quit working. It’s longshore jargon. And he is right, if Trump is cheated again most everyone should quit working because the social contract, the constitution will have been broken by the people in power.
Also, “I’m dragging up”
IBEW jargon International Brotherhood of Electrial Workers
<<<Please name me the labor union that stood up for rights of their employees to not wear a mask, and not take an injection they didn’t want to take?>>>
Airline pilots at Southwest and American among others. They did so successfully. The United pilots tried but their woke president Scott Kirby started terminating people who wouldn’t take the jab.
Btw, here’s woke Scott at a Halloween “celebration” when he was at American. He did the same every year in a different costume. In this video, he’s the one with the purple boa.
I used to work through IHSS as an in home caregiver, but I was required to be a member of the vile SEIU as a condition of employment. One time I didn’t get my paycheck deposit when I should have. They claimed they had paid me. I appealed to the union and was told that it wasn’t their problem. Never did get my pay either.
Inside the wealthy life of the union leader holding America’s economy hostage: Longshoremen president is paid $900k and has ‘more yachts than Elon Musk’ – but is demanding more pay for his workers
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13916113/union-leader-port-strikes-message-harold-daggett.html
How dare he be successful!!
He’s just a disgusting grunt from Queens!
Doesn’t he know his place in the globalist caste system???????????
The ILA president needs a lesson in public relations as his last rant had the effect of just pissing a lot of people off. Telling the American people that if you don’t get your way you are going to make sure they suffer is not how you win friends and influence people. Unless of course your intent is to make the average citizen hate your members. In that case you may have succeeded beyond your wildest dreams.
FHD!
Agreed.
Do you believe you got the full set of remarks? Did he just go off on his own camera and lecture?
I do not believe we have the full picture of his remarks and how they were precipitated. When was the last time the media actually presented such comments in context?
Well now it seems that people are hoarding paper products. Several Costco’s that I know of are out but more is coming. Somebody needs to tell the American people that most of our paper products are made in this country. Drugs and medical supplies should be the big worry.
I agree with your assessment.
Chicken littles.
Asking WHO allowed American port infrastructure to fall into the hands of hostile, foreign interests isn’t a question I’m inclined to ask, since the answer yields only a list of the culpable…who will all deny their guilt, the media will ignore their corruption and they will all finally be exonerated by a Snopes fact-check. Those who want proof, need only look at the Uranium One scandal…that according to the media and Snopes wasn’t a scandal at all or the crisis at our southern border…that according to the media and Scopes isn’t a crisis.
Asking WHAT allowed American port infrastructure to fall into the hands of hostile, foreign interests yields a more useful result, since the answer is the corruption of system of government our Founding Fathers envisioned…and while reforming a corrupt system is extraordinarily difficult, it at least has a fighting chance…bringing corrupt individuals within a corrupt system never works because those in positions to judge them are just as corrupt.
And what is the fighting America has of restoring all ownership, influence and control of U.S. ports to America?
His name is Donald Trump!
Snopes is a DEMOCRAT fact checking site, highly politically biased. They all are.
Snopes is one (1!) fat middle-aged Democrat with a B-grade ex-pornstar wife. Yes, really.
Let’s not forget the thousands of acres of US farmland that the Chinese have been able to buy. Try to buy farmland in China? See how that works out. Some near military bases.
They are ALL NO GOOD. The port admins and the thug jerkoff telling everyone how he would choke us all economically. I have been on a negotiation team and sometimes there are NO GOOD GUYS. Like this.
Exactly. My late, long shoreman stepfather would have hated this.
> sometimes there are NO GOOD GUYS
A guy named Jesus of Nazareth would like to talk to you.
A lot of the short term pain is due to Uniparty influence and control of our economy.
It’s insane that such a large part of our economy is behoven to foreign manufacturers. Why did our Uniparty betters decide that we can not produce our own medicines, appliances and energy?
Because they saw that they could obtain grift from the imports of said products.
The States who have ports can, declare an Emergency, Take over the Ports, and run them, bring the ILA back and force the foreigeign owners to liquidate there ownership.
SW Idaho here and it strange that stores are running out of water (distilled mostly) Toilet paper and Paper towels. My guess about Distilled water would be used for Baby formula and that is a the run, not regular bottled water. Clerks are saying people are concerned about the East Coast port strike but The west USA has bottled water factories and plenty of paper products locally.
I guess water and paper products have become the panic stock up item rather than milk, bread and eggs. I want people to prep but I hate when they are so dang dumb about it. I’d suggest stocking up on fuel, engine oil and parts with that middle east situation going on now.
SE USA Agriculture took a big hit so veggies in winter and Poultry product might go up again. WWatch thee herd don’t follow thee herd!
That lady in the video at the end, I’m not buying her story about the previous contract allegedly having promise of no automation in it, which was allegedly violated. From the looks of things, Daggett would have gone to court over that(or threatened to) and won. The union I’m in begins to sue/sues my employer all the time, and gets them to back down often just by sending notices.
Also, her husband gets time & a half for overtime, so her sanctimonious foul-mouthing about how he’s working 100 hours a week supposedly for us consumers to have stuff is a crock of shit–he does it of his own accord, to make the big bucks. If my situation had any opportunity for overtime, I’d jump on it as much as I could, too. And I’m sure all that OT he’s getting is only because of union seniority clause/featherbedding language in the contract that gives it to him instead of a hungry relative newcomer who gets only part-time hours at much lower wage.
The port ownership issue is a separate problem. And the striking workers I’ve seen in videos picketing never miss any meals; so many are morbidly obese it’s appalling. Driving $60,000 pick-up trucks….50% wage increase seems way generous enough to me! Daggett and his ilk are thug hostage-takers. Scabs in a situation like this are white knights.
Well, I still think Daggett is a slug.
Stop and think of the longshoremen as the equivalent of voluntary militia of the founding of our country. Their pay, benefits, leaders, methods, etc are not significant. I had an uncle who landed on Omaha Beach the second day when a beachhead was being established. Thanks to Sundance as he raises our awareness.
The enemy/foreigners have been in a silent maneuver with the help of traitors for 40 years. They have a beachhead at major ports and want to remove troublesome Americans to further their silent plans – complete takeover.
Where is our defense from government, military, Wallstreet …. Of course, not.
China has a goal. That goal is to control this country. That is what you have just read about if you took time to read this article.
I needed this explanation. For those new to the Treehouse, you can trust that Sundance knows what he is talking about. He is one of the most informed people who write about such matters.
Once you are a Treeper, you will never accept sub par reporting from anyone else!
Thanks Sundance. I needed the lesson you provided today.
a longish quote from https://donsurber.substack.com/p/irony-of-dockworkers-strike?publication_id=1115457&post_id=149671248&isFreemail=true&r=rop3c&triedRedirect=true
And just exactly who will take those jobs we “bring back to America”? The illegals? Cause everywhere I go there are NO Americans who want a job or are willing to work.
This is probably a take several folks here may have already expressed, but I just arrived at my desk and have been wanting to type out my take since I saw a blurb about this right before I went to bed last night.
This guy’s ‘point’ (if we call it that) that “no one gave a [mess] about us until now!” is ridiculous.
Yes, he’s right, no one, en masse, gave a crap about them before. Were the collective-we supposed to? No one gives a crap about my job or your job (other than very few exceptions) -generally-…. that’s not how it works.
If any large union performing any task in the country today decides to strike… yes, ‘we will give a crap about them now!’ … Duh. If the TP-makers union (lets assume there is one) quit, the ‘crap’ we’d give is arguably bigger even. The world-wide-pencil-maker’s union could freeze all construction in-place by not making pencils for a few months.
I’m sure me just quitting my job today on a whim would ‘cripple’ my employer for a period of time until I was replaced, but the reason I don’t do that is I’m not a jerk who would quit unannounced.
How it works is, you agree to do work for wages. You bargain for however much wage you feel comfortable making. The end.
Holding the country hostage with your feet-stamping is as childish as it sounds. I understand SD’s point about these guys fighting foreign interests at this point. That’s not gonna comfort gramma when her new wheelchair doesn’t land on the dock. Yes, I feel bad about making a ‘grandma-take’.
Going after the ownership of ports issue is a separable argument. These unions, if they feel so angry at being ‘foreign owned/controlled’ (and now at risk of being replaced by automation) had a chance to do something about it when that all went down. They didn’t, so ‘sorry, not sorry’. A strike then would’ve been as bad as now, but at least it would have been more based in principle.
‘water under the bridge… ‘ right right… just ignore past bad behavior, I’m sure it’ll get better…
If their contract negotiations fell apart weeks/months ago, I’d start looking inward and find out why. My black-pilled take is that this was all planned to ‘fall apart’ in October to be a situation that FKH could ‘resolve’ just before the election for a ‘big win’.
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There used to be a song with the lyrics: “Everybody’s rich! Everybody’s rich! Everybody’s rich but us.”
I’m sorry, the part he works 100 hours a week, well I’m quite sure like anything else, he gets paid handsomely for it. 81,000 average a year. I read the article here but I watched unions gut my small town and my father lost his job because of it 40 plus years ago. I was part of, kind of, the worst union in the country which is the teacher’s union. Closed shop, were you have to contribute no matter what. Then, they wanted additional fees which I wouldn’t pay.
I understand the woman here. I understand Sundance here. But when the dumbass comes out and says he can hurt Americans? Sorry, my sympathy rules short………
Who are the 6 owners of the east coast ports?
Spot on re the automation, SD. But…
What we are seeing is EO 13818 at work. You know, foreign influence and ownership and the seizure/divestiture of any materiel used in the violation of human rights. For those still not getting it, I mean child trafficking. In and out of the ports, in containers. As was found on the Evergiven, the Walmart/CGI-owned container ship that blocked Suez.
Yeah, that “conspiracy theory.”
Also, whom has the legal right to shut down US ports? The military. The military pre-dated even the Articles of Confederation, and this is but one thing they have the sole right to do. We’ll find that there are many more things they’re able to do, in the Restored Republic of the United States.
A 70% increase in pay will not change the port ownership. I believe it will only hasten the automation of the ports. $15 minimum wage has brought more automation to many sectors. I’m just not rooting for the union in this fight.
Daggett’s nearly giddy rant about people losing their jobs on the alter of the Longshoremen did it for me.
The Dock Workers need to stick it to the WEF, Elites, and CCP! The DNC has sold out the Autoworkers, Teamsters, Garment Workers, and now it is time for the Longshoreman to stand up for America and Americans, and Americans to stand with the Daggett!
Automate the ports.
Given a list of all the ports in America is there a source that tells me the owners?
Mr Daggett didn’t do his cause, his union or himself any favors by coming out and sounding like Tony Soprano.
Sundance, I thank you for trying to use this outlet to wake up a bunch of slumbering lumps on the origin of so much of their comfortable lifestyles.
I come from a maritime logistics and infrastructure family; also Navy and Coast Guard. I can onion-belt on this topic forever. But let me hand the microphone over to someone smarter, more articulate, and less grumpy:
https://rumble.com/v5h2cvh-coffee-and-a-mike-sal-mercogliano-part-of-the-battlefield-includes-the-worl.html
I’m sick to death of the lubbers who have absolutely no concept about the role of maritime in this republic’s rise and fall. Just sick of it. I’m sick of the lubbers who say they’re “MAGA” while hating the often rough-and-tumble maritime workers. I’m sick of their globalist-caste-minded opinions that if you’re born into a working class or blue collar or poor family, you don’t deserve a share in the wealth you eventually create.
I’m sick of the way they assume that it’s OK for the globalist shipping companies to have record profits since the globalist “covid” operation…but the men and women who make that productivity are wicked evil naughty Zoot for asking for a share OF THE WEALTH THEY CREATED.
https://www.freightwaves.com/news/container-shipping-has-greatest-quarter-ever-and-theres-more-to-come
https://gcaptain.com/container-shipping-marks-seven-straight-quarters-of-record-profits/
https://usglobaletfs.com/insights/how-the-shipping-industry-has-reached-record-profitability/
https://www.logisticsmgmt.com/article/top_30_ocean_carriers_riding_high_on_wave_of_profits
Bravo, Sundance. Well done. Now I understand the full dynamic, and who the fk sold us out? We don’t even control our own ports? Who are the treasonous scum who did that? It seems everyday I hear something that makes me blow a gasket!