The Supreme Court has granted certiorari and accepted the case of President Trump arguing presidential immunity from prosecution for official acts while in office. At the heart of the issue the court will determine if the charges brought by Jack Smith need to be dropped, or if the case against President Trump can continue forward.
If the Supreme Court begins defining what types of immunity exist for Presidents in office, they are beginning to open the door to multiple Lawfare efforts against the chief executive by agencies of the administrative state. This could be extremely troublesome for the future abilities of the presidency far beyond Donald Trump.
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WASHINGTON DC – In a one-page order Wednesday, the court set an expedited schedule to hear the immunity issue, with oral arguments to be set during the week of April 22. In the meantime, proceedings in the trial court will remain frozen.
[T]he court’s decision to keep the pretrial proceedings frozen is a blow to special counsel Jack Smith’s effort to bring Trump to trial this year. Smith has charged Trump with four felonies stemming from his bid to subvert the 2020 presidential election.
Trump claims that, as a former president, he enjoys broad immunity from criminal prosecution for acts taken while in office. Lower courts have rejected that claim, but proceedings in the trial court have been paused for more than two months while Trump has litigated the novel immunity question. (more)
The leftist Lawfare cheerleaders are not happy with the Supreme Court decision.
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In the words of Mr. Mellencamp……..And the walls….come tumbling down, and the walls come tumbling tumbling, the walls come tumbling down……LOL smile the Lord is good and God’s got this. Satan doesn’t win….so pray and smile while doing so….
I have said often here that Almighty God is moving.
He is not silent.
Be still, and you can hear Him.
14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. II Chron. 7:14. Maybe, just maybe, the stiff-necked people who call themselves Americans and Christians have finally realized that without God nothing is possible and with Him all things are. We’ll see.
Old Dawg, governments and courts have tried for decades to remove God from our nation. Again I leave this quote from Ben Franklin.
“If you don’t like this world with Almighty God in it, can you imagine it without Him?”
I think there is a purpose to our having to endure the increasingly unendurable these past few years… to show us what it would be like. A hell (the absence of God) that those few years ago seemed inconceivable. And from it a chance to ask for redemption in hopes that His grace will not be removed.
We imagine no longer.
Our choice, as it has always been in this spiritual war 🙏🏻
Yep, but he is a flaming leftist also. You might well have quoted Springsteen. More like “one step up and two step’s back”.
What about team Trump asking SCOTUS to dismiss everything – not just Jack Smith but also the New York and Georgia atrocities???
NY case totally unrelated. about business dealings before becoming president. GA case maybe related enough. His atty seems to be pretty sharp though and GA case may be exploding on its own.
According to Fox News, Fani and Nathan are facing ethics complaints calling for their law license to be revoked.
… and they should be. They are an embarrassment to the Justice system, and they have committed prosecutable crimes for which they certainly should be punished.
Believe it or not, there really are “hard-working judges,” and even(!) “hard-working lawyers(!!),” who still believe in the concept of “ethics,” and real “justice.” What these two people have done is “a slap in the face” to that ideal. And we must not tolerate it.
should………should………..should……..etc……
Two items:
Fani Willis Possesses Evidence Exonerating Georgia’s Alternate Electors
https://thefederalist.com/2023/09/01/exclusive-fani-willis-possesses-evidence-exonerating-georgias-alternate-electors/
AND
New York’s first [DEI] Black chief judge looks to change narrative of criminal justice system
…[Rowan] Wilson made history as the first Black partner at Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP, emphasizing his leadership in promoting diversity and inclusion…
…”If somebody steals, you know, a tube of toothpaste, which happens, right happens a fair amount, they need the toothpaste. But it also means we shouldn’t send them in Rikers, because they stole a tube of toothpaste, they probably have a variety of needs, some of them just poverty,” Wilson explains, underscoring the need for a justice system that addresses the root causes of offenses beyond mere punitive measures.”…
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/new-yorks-first-black-chief-judge-looks-to-change-narrative-of-criminal-justice-system/5179864/
THEY ARE ALL RELATED
For example: That prosecution is not being brought against Biden – but is against Trump – shows inconsistent treatment and the connection with Biden / the political opposition and Fani Willis – and also with New York … – it’s a pattern – a conspiracy to target Trump (and Giuliani and the J6ers etc.) via a biased (kangaroo)’judicial system’ and the timing with the election … – what is the worst SCOTUS can say – that all the cases are not ripe now for appeal??? I mean this is outrageous demanding Trump pay a half a billion dollars and quite frankly cruel and unusual – such as all being brought at the same time – election interference by an abusive judicial system – … It is also horrific what is happening to Rudy and the J6ers …
This is really a huge suppression (of all Trump supporters or even non Trump supporters like Dershowitz) of our G-d given rights as documented in the First Amendment “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
Only to what extent is some of SCOTUS also part of the conspiracy ???
Dershowitz is most likely mossad .
He represented Weinstein,and Epstein.
He was close with Epstein.
He’s a snake !
He is not on our side .
Probably explains the need for a second.
Trump petitioned the appeals court to have the bond requirement lowered to $100 million. Appellate Division Judge Anil Singh turned Trump’s request.
However, Singh paused the three-year ban on Trump seeking loans from New York banks. The appellate order also allows Trump to run his New York companies for now.
(A brief note on the NY court system. The Supreme Court is actually the lower level. There is a Trial Division and an Appellate Division. The highest court is the Court of Appeals.)
But magically waived statute of limitations just for this case. SCOTUS should see a nexus on these cases.
That’s not how SCOTUS works.
The NYC case is in violation of the 8th amendment and will ultimately lose based on that.
This is clearly all of that.
I love what we are seeing. The self-destruction of the world’s most famous city and state is a sight to behold and all of the outcomes are plain for all to see. Even the left sees it but they, in fact, do not care about business or prosperity or anything of the kind. They are extremely happy with creating impoverished hellholes as we can see through countless examples… you know, so long as they are in charge of it all.
Meanwhile, the law profession continues to reel in huge payments and the MSM continues to denigrate PDJT. Does it seem like the SCROTUS is on board with all of this? You bet they are. Remember Deplorables, you have no standing.
Also, law schools continue to grind out incompetent attorneys who are susceptible to dark money. They are destroying the fabric of this country.
Better to rule in hell than serve in heaven…
Says on a dope who has no brain.
Scotus is considering an obstruction appeal by one of the J6 political prisoners being held in jail. If that charge is considered inappropriate under the law, many held in jail on this charge will be released and most of Smith’s case against Trump will be dismissed as well.
These people are outraged that their ploys are being destroyed. They are so far down the rabbit hole at this point all of their masks are off.
His position is anything but “novel.” The Constitution explicitly grants immunity to Members of Congress, but neglects to do so for the President or for Judges and Justices. However, the SCOTUS has already ruled on this issue many times in the past two hundred years. And they have always sided with “Article 2.”
“The President” is nothing less than “a one-person Branch of Government.” He is tasked with responsibilities and powers granted to no other person. And, he is required to timely exercise those powers and prerogatives. He must sometimes act in situations where there is neither “time” nor “complete knowledge.” He could be right, he could be dead wrong, but “he must act, now.” It’s very lonely at the top …
Very simply, “Article 2 would fall completely apart” if other Branches, or the States and Counties, could endlessly threaten him or her with long prison terms for making some statement or some decision that they didn’t approve of. Of course this is precisely what would happen, and there would be no end to it. Governing would become impossible.
The President is not immune from criminal liability, but he must first be successfully impeached. The Constitution goes on to say that this impeachment is not, itself, a criminal indictment. But it is a prerequisite. A super-majority of the Congress must conclude that the Officeholder is, in fact, guilty of “high crimes and misdemeanors.” They then remove him or her from office, bar him or her from ever holding office again, and authorize criminal proceedings to commence in the Courts.
Following on this thought, otherwise we could go back and prosecute Obama for ordering the drone death of a US citizen. And Biden for being an accessory in every death caused by an illegal during his term. It never ends.
If a President knew that he could be thrown in prison for anything he did before or during his term in office, no one would volunteer to do the job. Presidency does not make you “popular.”
All of what I said in my original post was based on prior Supreme Court decisions.
I really have wished for a while that a Prosecutor somewhere would go ahead and file these charges against both Obama and Biden…just to fire a shot across the bow…
While “revenge is certainly sweet,” it is unfortunately not good governance.
The “Lawfare” folks got their start by extorting corporations into settling garbage lawsuits. But, then they started to attack “The Office of the President.” And, Article 2 of the Constitution itself. This will be their undoing.
It would certainly make a point with the left wing lunatics if a state, like Texas, filed a suit against Obama for murder in the drone killing of a US citizen and his son, without giving them due process. He was President at the time but murder has no statute of limitations.
The novel comment changed the entire article. Made me re-read to see what other silliness I might have missed.
It was a completely biased article. Probably ghost written by Smith’s ghostwriter.
For those interested, Article 1 section 3 of the US Constitution is what Mike is referring to in his last paragraph above referencing criminal liability for the President. If the Supremes follow the Constitution. It should be 9-0 in favor of President Trump.
From Article 1, section 3:
“…The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.
Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.”
All alleged crimes by the President while in office must go through the Senate impeachment process first and be convicted by the Senate in order to then be eligible to go through criminal court.
And the fact that they attempted to Impeach PDJT, and were unsuccessful in that attempt, further emphasises just how bogus the Insurrection charge is.
Correct. An impeached and removed POTUS could be tried. But if the alleged offense happened while he was President and he was NOT first convicted and removed by the Senate then NO court has jurisdiction to hear charges for actions while he was POTUS.
Yup
If Marxist liberals don’t intervene, Americans will decide the immunity issue November 5, 2024.
a big IF.
we could decide it AFTER that date, as well. but we must choose to do what is difficult.
They’re running out of time and they’re panicking.
It’s very cathartic to watch these losers come unglued.
They thought President Trump would be in jail by now.
Ain’t gonna happen.
I have 52 examples of Newsom screwing the people of California. I will print one a day accusing him of taking that corruption nationwide.
Gayvin Nuisance
They also thought that indicting him would tank his popularity.
That was not a part of the purpose, it was THE WHOLE OF IT.
No, they did NOT “think President Trump would be in jail by now.”
If you are going to comment on their expectations, get it right!
They thought that the steady ‘drip, drip’ announcement of these indictments, followed by “leaking” of lies to the complicit media for distortion, like Joe Scarboroughs “Trumps selling our tippy toppy most top secret nuclear secrets to Kim il Jung!” followed by the public spectacle of his arraignments, would causea panickied MAGA to abandon PDJT, and flock to “Americas Gov. of the Free State of Florida” because they would view him as”A safe Trump without the baggage” younger, and indictment free.
Seeing his support crater, PDJT would withdraw from the campaign, and after the R Convention, with DeSantis as POTUS, and “to heal the party” Nikki as VPOTUS, these cases would be dropped on technicalities, like that they never legally appointed Smith in the first place.
As PDJT has been saying all along, these cases are ELECTION INTERFERENCE, they were NEVER intended to be “successful” prosecutions leading to convictionsand incarceration.
Exactly!
The comments on Youtube are hilarious. They know Trump is going to win.
Not sure why you would say that. We thought it was in the bag in 2020. They are out there planning their steal, while Republicans watch YouTube. Republicans, like generals, are good at fighting the last war, but not the next one.
Yep, the war is with the unelected and their enforcers and mercenaries. That’s where kinetic will occur. We can examine the Covid op for many examples and we can count our casualties as example of its effectiveness. The enemy has yet to feel that pain and suffering and fear.
🙂
I wonder how “Rubber Roberts “ is going to try to thread this needle and he knows the right answer ~ Immunity for A President – but he has to face the his TDS/Uniparty friends at the DC cocktail parties – ….hmmm
They ALL like the social perks.
I imagine a good martini trumps a good nation to these destroyers.
The Meese filing, gives Roberts an “easy out” should he choose to take it.
Are we really supposed to believe Garland didn’t know, AND didn’t have anybody in DOJ (a place literally FULL of lawyers!) who didn’t know the legal processes they were required to follow, in order to appoint a Special Prosecutor?
This is like expecting us to believe HAMAS built a whole underground city right under the noses of the Iraeli govt. and planned their Oct 7 operation, while IDF, Mossad, CIA, NSA, etc. were all clueless?
5-6 different States across the country, in unprecedented fashion and with no explanation stopped counting,…
Things that don’t make sense, were done in ‘broad daylite’ and we’re just not supposed to notice, for $500, Alex!
I like that they aren’t challenging Jack’s actions based on his factual illegitimacy. A special prosecutor such as this is required to have approval by the senate. That never happened. And he was never “from outside of the government” as he was already employed by the government at the time he was named.
It’s almost as if Trump’s team wants Jack’s pursuit to continue as it is for the moment.
Is it possible Trump wants this ruling to be against him so that later he can use it to destroy Obama and Biden? Seems a bit reckless if that’s the case though because the obvious ramifications would be a permanently intimidated Executive office.
There is an abundance of settled law which addresses civil immunity for the President. Until the present day, no one actually attempted to imprison a President for acts committed while in Office. Courts stay within the boundaries of the cases that are presented to them.
To its eternal discredit, this SCOTUS refused to address the issue of “election fraud” when many States timely tried to present the issue to them in 2019/2020. Even though the SCOTUS is “the Court of Primary Jurisdiction” for all issues involving “States” (Article 3, Section 2), they punted the football and declared that somehow the States “had no standing.” I think that they sorely regret that cowardice now. Or at least, they should.
Every “voter” in America should have standing as it was their votes that were stolen.
As far as SCOTUE is concerned it wasn’t about voters, it was about the one of the reasons the court was created. To handle disputes between states.
Yet it finds itself more often addressing the behaviors of the states themselves and that of the federal government as it relates to the US Constitution.
The elections are not run NATIONALLY. The left would absolutely LOVE it if it were.
By neglecting their duty to the country, those turds validated vote theft as a means to the presidency.
Gutlessness personified is John Roberts.
I’m still eternally surprised at the left’s hate for Roberts. He’s their greatest, most compromised ally.
I think the murder/assassination of Scalia had a lot to do with that. I still can’t believe the public has let that incident disappear from their minds. EVERYTHING about it was wrong.
They, on their ‘hey look at me’ high horse, do not now or will ever regret a decision that they made while on the bench.
FJB, BHO & Asoc…..😉🇺🇸
Firstly, please show where anyone is currently attempting to IMPRISON a President, for acts committed while in office.
They haven’t, and speculation not withstanding until a Judge orders him imprisoned, they haven’t.
Secondly, Idon’t want California dictating to Az or Utah, that those States must use “ranked choice voting” (for example) just because California does, and thinks it gives a fairer result.
The Constitution says the Federal Govt GUARANTEES to each State and its citisens, a REPUBLICAN form of Government, meaning representative democracy.
And, beyond that it gives each States Legislature autonomy and plenary authority to decide the place and manner of elections.
Texas has no standing to tell California how to conduct its elections, or vice versa, and the only authority the Fed Gov. has is the guarantee clause, and naming the date.
State legislatures COULD, and in the past HAVE selected that states electors BY a vote OF the legislature, and it was Constitutional.
And if say, Az. decided to pick its electors by a vote of the legislature, and Az.’s citisens were o.k. with it, Texas would have no standing to challenge it.
IMHO, just because people WANTED to overturn the stolen election, doesn’t mean Paxtons challenge had merit.
Until I hear something new, the US Constitution says the manner in which the states run their elections is left to the states explicitly.
There are cases to be made within a state about unconstitutional processes were followed (executive directions which contradict law of the state). The question of how much of THAT issue can be made to reach SCOTUS for opinion is of interest. The US Constitution does seem to state that the structure of the government of member states to the US must also comply with the standards of the US Constitution.
Sometimes it’s the right questions which must be asked.
That said, I somehow feel like all of this HAD to happen. If Trump won the arguments and the entire IC plot to force the election through using “emergencies” as they did and ultimately kept his seat in the White House, how much change or reform could result?
As much as it nearly killed me to watch the 2020 election unfold as it did, I feel like no meaningful draining of the swamp could occur if Trump simply continued his second term uninterrupted. Nearly all of the crap that we know goes on would continue to go unnoticed by the larger US public.
Today we have GLOBAL awareness of US government corruption. So not only will the PEOPLE of the US now better serve as a check against this criminal government, but so TOO will the world’s people as the corruption of the US is showing itself CLEARLY in all US allied countries as well. (For example, the US-Ukraine corruption very quickly involved the UK with their intervention in the peace talks between Ukraine and Russia.)
The now old expressive question of “how far is too far for the left?” is continually unanswerable as no limit appears to exist. This is bringing about awareness of those who avoid and hate politics because now they are realizing that you CAN’T IGNORE PEOPLE TRYING TO KILL YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN. And certainly it’s bringing about DEFECTORS from the left who are increasingly feeling the pain resulting from the policies of the people they supported.
The true left will never know because they will die before they accept any responsibility for what they have done.
The DOJ senate could always appoint another prosecutor – then the case would continue. If the Supreme Court rules – then it is stopped.
But then, look at Weissman – he was appointed again for the Biden Jr case and nobody in Senate or House protested his pre-existing bias.
If SCOTUS should pull the ripcord, and use the Meese filing to avoid all other issues, simply ruling that Smith was illegitimately appointed, hence has no standing to prosecute, I THINK any material evidence he has gathered, MIGHT be poisoned fruit.
Hence I don’t think they can just assign a Special Prosecutor, following the process as spelled out in the legislation, and then have that person take over the case.
Since I can see no compelling reason why they HAD to have Smith, and could NOT have followed the proceedure, I am working from the assumption this was intentional, as a way to “pull the plug” once the prosecution had served its purpose (of election interference).
I was about to say something similar but I think you said it better. I was going to say that the legitimate prosecutor would have to START OVER as anything covered and collected under Smith couldn’t be admissible.
It would be like a fake cop making an arrest and going as far as bringing a suspect to the police station for booking. They would ask the fake cop to file a report and then “take it from there.”
Lawfare has already carved out so many “Trump Rules” that apply only to President Trump that I have no confidence in the supreme court. They could use Roberts pretzel logic in their decision and make no presidential immunity apply only to President Trump.
I think we will soon seen the end of this rampant lawfare. Trump’s own counter-lawfare operations are bearing fruit. The Fanni Willis thing couldn’t have happened without it. What are we seeing in that case? We are seeing the results of investigating the prosecutors and judges themselves to discredit them and even to possibly imprison them.
The same is true of the Engoron and Litigia James. Not only are they destroying their own status in the legal field, they are destroying the respect of the NYC and NY State legal system. And worse still, they are destroying the status of the world’s most famous and well known city in the world as an international business location and a hub for the US economy.
Many lawyers and judges refused these cases for VERY good reason. They [the White House] had to enlist INSANE people to get what they wanted into action. And in doing so, the White House is exposed in all of this.
These are interesting times.
They CANNOT “Get Trump” without committing crimes in the first place. And now the WORLD is seeing it.
why haven’t any of the states brought charges against Obama to drive the point home?
Good question, cowardice?
The large majority of Republicans in State Government are UniParty and not on our side.
All Republicans on State R party Executive Committees, who place all elected Repuublicans IN their offices, are Uniparty and not on our side, and elected public officials sleep with the one that brung em.
FIFY
Muley Bulley: “Why haven’t any of the states brought charges against Obama to drive the point home?”
Because this is one case where fighting fire with fire carries the collateral risk of quickly burning the whole constitutional republic house down.
Yea,…AND?
The Tower of Babel is crumbling.
I cannot wait to hear the arguments, the Leftists will present.
Will the court once again step outside the constitution and write law, something they are prohibited from doing?
Please. They’ve been writing law for 200 years.
The fact is questioning the validity of an election, especially when fraud was easily apparent, is a duty of the office.
I think the other interesting question that has been raised is the unlawfulness of Jack’s appointment to begin with. We’ll see leftist rage at another level should Trump win that argument.
Article 2, Section 3: The President “shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.” This literally means that, when he perceives (rightly or wrongly) that the Federal Crime of “Election Fraud” has occurred – and whether or not he is a contestant – “he must respond.” He must speak out, and he must take action. And, “the decision of ‘what that means'” is his alone.
And just to emphasise this point, it was THEY who specifically designated elections as “critical infrastructure” meriting higher levels of protection against foreign interference, and publishing warnings that foreign actors WERE targeting it for interference.
Typical sloppy reporting from leftist media whores at Politico. When reporting about charges, proper journalistic standards require the word “alleged” to precede what’s at issue. For example, the sentence below needs to word “allaged” before the word “bid”.
Smith has charged Trump with four felonies stemming from his bid to subvert the 2020 presidential election.
But this is how leftist media whores roll – alluding to a factual basis where none exists.
I was at the gym yesterday and both CNN and Fox spent a full hour on repeating this. Like there was no other news to report. Glad I watch other things on my phone. MSM is boring.
Dear God, please bless the speech, the minds, the hands, the actions, and the health of those who defend our president, Donald J. Trump. Bring an end to the actions of those whose evil intent is to destroy him. Continue to guide and bless him in his path back to the presidency. We pray in Jesus name. Amen.
Curious as to what this does in regard to the Bragg criminal trial scheduled to begin March 25th. If left to Bragg he will likely put on a show trial. Hopefully President Trump will request delay.
It will be a show trial and the judge will award Daniels hundreds of millions of dollars and expect it in 24 hours. They are trying to bankrupt president Trump because they know their cases are garbage. But defendants cannot appeal the ruling until the defendant pony up the fine ahead of time. This needs to be looked into as unfair practice for anyone.
i can’t say that I have a warm, fuzzy feeling about the Supremes in this case.
Do we expect the Leftists to abide by the SCOTUS ruling? Check out the way they responded to the ruling about buying votes of young deadbeats with our money. They ignored it.
Patricia the school loan “forgiveness” debacle is hilarious and the big stick in the eyes of those who think they will “benefit” from it. Because these forgivees don’t have to pay those loans back there is now more money for them to spend on other things and all of those other things are going to cost much more than if they had just paid for their loans. Supply and demand is still a law of nature, more money into the system with less goods and prices go up. The student loan forgivees will be paying for those loans and everyone else’s in higher taxes and prices for regular goods and services. The really didn’t gain anything they just think they did. Unfortunately we all will feel the pain of these stupid decisions but those whose loans were “forgiven”won’t be much better off either.
If Trump loses presidential immunity for actions while in office, Clinton, Baby Bush, Obama, and Biden can all be charged with war crimes.
By the the essence of the penumbra and a few chicken bones…
Lemme see if I have this right.
One, Trump is one trial for an insurrection on 6 Jan, when he was legally STILL the POTUS until 20 Jan. So how can he be tried for an insurrection AGAINST HIMSELF?
Two, Trump is being sued for fraud but no one ever complained and indeed, EVERYONE he borrowed from was paid back in full and the fine is in complete and total violation of the Eighth Amendment.
So where is the fraud? IN the NYC Just-Us system.
Shame on you for being so logical!!!!!!!!!!
Being so completely logical in today’s woke world carries a good bit of personal, legal, and financial risk.
Whats more, in the judgement they had to specifically forbid PDJT from borrowing $ from the SAME NY Banks that are the alleged victims of his fraud, (to pay the fine) because otherwise the Banks obviously would be lining up to do so.
Too long for a t-shirt… can you make it more concise?
And if they come back with a ruling that says Trump doesn’t have immunity, then what?
Leaving the interpretation of the laws of the land up to a handful of people–especially ones that have already told us we have “no standing” to correct vote fraud–is dangerous and STOOPID!
The “then what” is that as many people as possible should bring suit against biteme, ozero, the bushies, and Carter for all the very questionable things they did while in office. I hope SCOTUS is aware of that very real possibility.
I would hope that Stephen Miller’s America First Legal team are already on top of this, and ready at the gate with lawsuits…
“They” win in all scenarios as the right doesn’t have a great amount of anti-lawfare and “they” have a large amount of completely unethical judges at every level. “They” also have the media and ngo’s to put pressure and threaten anyone in the “justice” system.
Actually, Steven Millers AmericaFirst has been doing prodigious and steller work, at “MAGA Lawfare”, as has Tom Fitton.
And the case brought by Jim Hoft, et al. and joined by the A.G.’s from Missouri and La, has been kicking ass.
TTV has also had some great and significant legal victories, as well.
But, you have to follow MAGA media, and ignore MSM, as fake news commits as much manipulation by memory holing, as they do by false narrative amplifying.
Similar to how they steal elections by voter suppression, while everyones attention is on ballot stuffing.
So why did the Supreme Court decide to take this case NOW? They had several options here. One was to keep things on hold in the lower court and let Trump go for an en banc review of the prior 3-judge decision. And most likely that whole court would have ruled against Trump too. And THEN he would have appealed to the SC, at which point they would have granted Cert like they have now. But the Court didn’t do that.
So are there any clues as to WHY they’re taking this route? The Trump Haters are mad about this, they say it’s causing more delay… they were actually hoping (like the idiots they are) that the SC would just say they were rejecting the whole thing and let the lower-court ruling stand. Of course that was NEVER gonna happen, but that was the plan in their TDS minds.
And now these same idiots are claiming that what the SC is now doing is intended to drag things out so a trial can’t happen before the election. They assume that the SC will either not make a ruling at all before the election, or if they do they’ll wait as long as they can. But again, they assume that whenever they DO make a ruling, it’ll be against Trump, which would allow the trial to start. But I don’t think that’s what this implies at all.
If the SC was planning to make such an important ruling, and expected that ruling would be against Trump, I doubt very much they would have wanted to time it in such a way that any trial would be going on right before the election. And the fact that they’ve agreed to take this on an “expedited basis” implies the same… that they do NOT want the potential for a trial to be hanging while the election approaches. So I think this means the Court WILL make a ruling well before the election.
Now the Trump Haters are assuming that that ruling will be against Trump, but I don’t think so. Besides the horrible precedent that would set for all future presidencies, it would also have a huge impact on the current, upcoming election. Talk about “election interference”!
So no, I think the reason the Court is agreeing to hear this, and doing it fairly quickly, is to get rid of the whole issue. The Trump Haters keep saying they want stuff to happen — convictions, or at least trials starting — BEFORE the election so there’s no doubt about whether or not Trump is guilty, and voters can take that into account. Their mistake is assuming that the Supreme Court is gonna rule in their favor. But I think the exact opposite is the most likely scenario.
Yes the Supremes are wanting to clear the air before the election… but I don’t think the anti-Trump factions are gonna like how they do that.
The LEFT never eases off the pressure. Not even after they win. And not when they lose.
So even though the Supremes are rushing things, which helps Biden and Smith, the article and the rest of the media are on a full propaganda push.
But, the Supreme Court, especially this Robert’s Court, has a long history of doing the wrong thing.
I like your logic but I’m struggling to share your confidence.
I agree.
At some point, with Thomas and Alito heading up the logical and constitutionally correct solution, Roberts is forced to face reality and put an end to these unconstitutional Lawfare antics.
It’s time for the adults to take over and straighten out this unconstitutional mess, or the entire US Court System unravels and quickly falls into a total state of destruction.
This is imperative for the Supreme Court to say: “Enough of this nonsense. Let’s get back to work.”
JMO.
Picture the nine black robed jurists of the not-so-supreme-court standing, motionless, on the deck of the USS Constitution as it lists badly to the port side, aka the left. They are befuddled as to what to do.
And then, just as their future looks the bleakest, out of the fog comes the USS Liberty with its captain Thomas Jefferson. He yells across to them:
“The Constitution isn’t a suicide pact ……A strict observance of the written law is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to the written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the ends to the means.”
He continues “Behold, we have on board the USS Liberty the predominance of evidence that the 2020 election was stolen and biden was illegally certified on 1/6/2021. President Trump was the winner.
We will throw a line over to you so you can right the USS Constitution and get the ship of state back on course with President Trump as the CIC. God speed and full speed ahead.
Don’t wait too long, time is of the essence. If you haven’t looked outside of The Supreme Court Building lately, the wolves have entered the walls of dc.
Do your duty and do your job ….. we shouldn’t have to say it, but that is why WE pay you.
“Let’s go Brandon and the democrats and the GOPe!”
The Supreme Court failed us on2020 election interference… with the exception of Justices Thomas & Gorsch…. I think they all are compromised…
I pray for the best outcome, but I don’t trust these Crap Weasels
I can imagine a verdict that reads in summary that a candidate can be barred from a ballot for being involved in genuinely serious and real crimes, like accepting massive bribes, but not for made up crimes for which there has not even been a fair trial.
Actually, while I can’t cite the specifics, politicians who have previously been convicted of crimes have subsequently been elected to office.
And, politicians who have been impeached have subsequently served.
IIRC a Judge was Impeached, and later was elected to Congress.
“If the Supreme Court begins defining what types of immunity exist for Presidents in office, they are beginning to open the door to multiple Lawfare efforts against the chief executive by agencies of the administrative state. ”
It is hard to break old bad habits ………. but Americans of 2024 will recognize and embrace the necessity to not play by the globalist, anti-American’s rules who have infiltrated our American Constitutional Republic …….. don’t fall for their catch-22 trap.
President Thomas Jefferson warned Americans to not fall for that trap when he said:
“A strict observance of the written law is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to the written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the ends to the means.”
The founders always knew there would be a time when some treasonous domestic and foreign traitors would take over the dc federal government. Their plan B was for the “we the people” to come back up through the states and retake dc.
That is what President Trump and his MAGA / America First movement are doing.
In 2025, President Trump will take the oath of office of the President of the United States.
The oath is found in Article II of the Constitution. It contains 35 words and goes as follows:
“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”
It demands he “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”
As such, it doesn’t require of him to do the same for the unconstitutional administrative-state’s rules, acts, declarations, interpretations, agreements, and even some laws that the un-American globalists have enacted over the past century, slowly eroding the freedoms and rights of the American citizens and states. defined in the “original Constitution and the legally approved amendments.”
On Day1 of his administration, he will implement the “2024 Constitutional Republic Mandate” from the American voters for the purpose of de-authorizing and dismissing the unconstitutional administrative-state departments, processes and personnel in the Executive Branch.
As President, he cannot associate with, nor defend, any “written law that is unconstitutional.”
And we will stand with and support him against all enemies of the United States of America.
MAGA isn’t just our motto, it is our duty.
“Let’s go Brandon and the democrats and the GOPe!”
I’m pretty sure there will be three no immunity votes and two yes immunity votes. The other four votes will determine the fate of the Republic. I have no trust in John Roberts whatsoever.
Remember, Evil Mary McCord’s husband works for Chief Justice Roberts… birds of a feather
Are you sure?
It was reported that he stepped down, after the Supreme Court “leak” that has not been resolved.
Perhaps I am wrong but I believe Sundance wrote about it.
Sheldon left that position after the Dobb’s leak of Alioto’s preliminary decision.
He doesn’t have that job anymore. They let him go quietly instead of busting him for revealing the roe v wade decision before the court wrote the decision. It’s all corruption rates protecting their own backsides.
First, this is splitting the difference.
Smith wants to continue yesterday, and Trump asked for it to be given due consideration and work its way up the courts.
Matter of fact, the decision skips the lower courts and rushes a result so that Smith can resume his attacks during the campaign.
I do not trust Roberts at all to safeguard the country on this. He is too busy making deals with the abusers in the vain hope of safeguarding his reputation.
And Roberts has shown that he can coble together coalitions against anything the left doesn’t like.
Also, it is like anyone who expects Kemp and Raffensberger to go after the AG doing their dirty work. They orchestrated the Georgia Steal. And prosecuting Trump for trying to stop it protects them.
The Supreme Court facilitated the Big Steal to help remove Trump. Both before and after the fact.
Letting Trump back in to the White House is a severe risk to those who colluded with the Steal. Including to the Supreme Court.
It also goes against prior intent. They too have harmed the country to throw Trump out.
I have no reason to believe that they won’t do everything possible to keep Trump out, even when that means harming the country even more.
I hope some AG starts investigating Obama for murder and makes it public before the Supreme Court hearing.
Oh goodie… if the courts invalidate Presedential immunity, we can commence to putting all previous Presidents in jail, and then we can start with the Senators, and then Representatives who aren’t representing… and maybe we can get rid of the corrupt judges and district attorneys. And while we’re at it, no retirement money for any of these “retired”, political, monsters who have driven this country into the ground. Just a thought. LOL.
A completely unrealistic scenario given RINOs and the weakness and non-organizations of Rs and conservatives opposing the opposite on the left.
Any ruling other than, “the Office of the President has immunity and that the US Constitution already has a mechanism to handle misconduct and/or illegal actions by a serving President .. it is the Impeachment process defined by the Constitution and that process includes referral for Judicial Action” … would be the same as Courts illegally Amending the Constitution.
When President Trump took actions v/v the election results of the 2020 Election … he was acting as the President of the US. Congress failed to impeach him for those actions, which legally closed the matter. [This was the crux of the rush to impeach President Trump a 3rd Time before 20 January 2021 in order to refer him to INCOMING DoJ for prosecution.]
Also note: the current, very same FBI leadership found, in January 2021, that President Trump had no liability for actions by the January 6 Protestors … so what is jack Smith using as evidence and has FBI Director Wary been notified that he is a witness for the defense.
Shanghai Mitch McConnell and his GOPe Uni-party buddies may be human waste products but they do deserve some credit for making, for what ever motives, 3 x Republic saving decisions during the 3 x Impeachment attempts on President Trump.
The only means to get a sitting President should be Impeachment and Removal from office… otherwise a sitting President must have immunity. It’s that simple. It should be an easy 9-0 decision.
Not just a “sitting President”; quite clearly they can Impeach a FORMER POTUS.
WHY have the option of Impeachming a POTUS after they are out of office if not to A)insure they can not serve again and B) to prepare the way for criminal conviction by stripping them of their Constitutional, Presidential immunity?
What a croc! All I needed to see was the picture of those 3 stooges from msdnc and knew it was more Bravo Sierra. Listened to about 40-50 seconds and didn’t want to lose my breakfast. These people remind me of pravda and tass in the old days spewing out trash talk.
Sundance is dead center Bullseye.
The mechanism for improper acts by the President is impeachment and Senate trial. If Lawfare is allowed to be in play, we might as well bring back the Articles of Confederation.
Really enjoyable to see MSLSD, Weisman, and the Lawfare Obama “The Process is the Punishment” types crying this morning. They realize their time table is in a cocked hat now.
Gee Terrence Bradley, Nathan’s Hotdog, and Fani Willis all exposed as perjurers, and now the Cert order on Smith, what a great, super, stupendous, 24 hours.
Their iniquity is slowly being exposed to sunlight.
There is a flaw in the argument. If a past President is found to have committed crimes, and he wasn’t impeached for those crimes while in office, than he will remain forever immune.
I don’t know the answer.
Continual LAWFARE against every ex President would destroy the country.
Constantly Impeaching every ex President wouldn’t be much better.
Letting Presidents get away with crimes though is equally destructive.
But this isn’t about real crimes. This is about depicting the President doing his duty as a crime.
It goes beyond that. Every Justice on the Court knows that Trump is seeking immunity because a D.C. jury will convict without any consideration of the merits. How do they thread the needle and say if the charges are bogus a jury will see right through it, and therefore cannot confirm blanket immunity on a president in office? Since that safety valve of reasonable citizens on a jury has been destroyed by Democrats, SCOTUS would have to essentially amend the constitution just to protect Trump.
No, they can Impeach a former POTTUS, after he leaves office, and this is exactly WHY.
I think Trump’s lawyers should make it plain the government is simultaneously arguing the President is not above the law while at the same time arguing the Attorney General’s unconstitutional appointment of the Special Counsel as a non-inferior officer being above the law is totally cool.
Wouldn’t it be cool if we had prosecution/litigation about the current effort by Democrats to “subvert” in the current election cycle.
Roberts and Barrett will side with the libtards.
Watch for threats against the remaining conservative justices.
The lawfare activists, I wouldn’t call them attorneys. Are little more than agenda driven, criminally corrupt hacks. That they are not happy with the Supreme Court decision is very telling, as they are used to having their equally corrupt hand picked so called judges do their bidding.
OMG! What a tragedy! The rule of Law is actually coming into play!What will they do if Lawfare fails! How dare fair play come into the equation against Trump!
I may be naive but something tells me that this is going to be a narrow ruling as to whether a president can be charged criminally for acts while in office. If it comes down to that then obviously no one can be above the law.
Now if they are specifically looking into what was done to Trump then I hope they fire away at the lawfare termites. I won’t hold my breath though.
They tried to impeach Trump for J6 as he was leaving office and did not succeed.
Then the question for the court, at least as they will probably see it, is whether the impeachment process is separate from any possible criminal process and if the impeachment excludes any other criminal procedure.
I just don’t have a good feeling about any of it.
You know who has full immunity on every issue and every case?
Answer: Federal Judges
Federal Judges give themselves absolute immunity.
Congress should act immediately and pass legislation taking away immunity from all Judges and all of this Lawfare BS goes away; very quickly!
That would certainly be a great start.
Actually, Federal Judges are also potentially subject to Impeachment by the House, and Conviction by the Senate, which would then result in removal from office, and strip them of their immunity and so open them up to potential prosecution.
The SAME as The President.
“Craven” and “Insurrectionists”: MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow and Others Denounce the Supreme Court for Granting Review of Presidential Immunity
https://jonathanturley.org/2024/02/29/craven-and-insurrectionists-msnbcs-rachel-maddow-and-other-denounce-the-supreme-court-for-granting-review-of-presidential-immunity/
Leftisits want to beat the J6 drum loudly all during the election cycle.
There’s only one remedy spelled out in the Constitution to prosecute crimes committed by a President while in office: impeachment, trial in the Senate and removal from office. Period. No joke! Trump was impeached twice and found not guilty in a trial by the Senate(the last trial was unconstitutional because he was already out of office and the Chief Justice did/would not preside). Only a Constitutional amendment can change that procedure.
Nanzi and Josef should be on trail.
Boy they didn’t waste anytime trying “to work the refs “ ( it will build ,of course, to subtle and not so subtle threats and intimidation and TDS hysteria ) But those ‘talking points” must have gone out in the early hours in order to get their Lefty Chorus singing the same tune so quickly – disgusting …
Their comm system is amazing. Too bad conservatives don’t blast CTH’ great revelations.
The appointment of Smitty was unconstitutional from the get-go.
I think you meant, “Not all that glitters is gold.” 😉
Robert Gouveia Esq.
@RobGouveiaEsq
Trump calls out Jack Smith’s hypocrisy at the Supreme Court, wondering why the “Special Prosecutor” now opposes SCOTUS hearing the immunity case when just a month ago he was begging for them to grant cert.
Cont (Video linked)…
The human Q-tip ‘weighs’ in…
“Until We Take Away Their Power – They Will Continue to Do This” – MSNBC Contributor Calls on Democrats to Strip Power from the Supreme Court After Trump Ruling”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/02/until-we-take-away-their-power-they-will/
Just like a q-tip this useful tool is completely disposable after its use.
The most important thing here is President Trump never committed any crime at all. He made a legal challenge, as is his right, to the election. He alleged there were irregularities and sought relief from the courts, the state legislatures, and Congress.
The DC establishment and the Democrats were so outraged they fabricated specious charges of insurrection and seditious conspiracy to criminalize President Trump’s election challenge.
This needs to be another 9-0 decision, without dissent, affirming Presidential immunity for official acts.
“This needs to be another 9-0 decision”
Without question but reality will be much different.
This court has surprised me on a few occasions recently. The decsision in the Georgia double jeopardy case for example.
Synopsis: A man was charged with murder. The jury found him “Not Guilty By Reason Of Insanity” on the charge of malice murder, but then found him “Guilty but insane” on the lesser included offenses. This was an inconsistent verdict – if he isn’t guilty of the crime, then he can’t be guilty of the lesser included offenses – and his lawyers appealed. The state supreme court agreed, and threw out not only the two inconsistent verdicts but also the not guilty verdict. His lawyers appealed again, arguing that a not guilty verdict isn’t appealable or reversible. Once not guilty, always not guilty. SCOTUS agreed, 9-0. Ketanji Brown-Jackson wrote the opinion. Good to see even if she isn’t a biologist and can’t distinguish between a man and a woman she has a good grasp of the 5th Amendment and double jeopardy.
The correct decision. Georgia can retry him on the lesser offenses, but not on the malice murder charge he was acquitted on.
Damian McElrath is black, so unfortunately this is identity politics at work. Had he been white the outcome might have been very different.
In this case I doubt it. It’s a pretty fundamental principle of Constitutional law
Dang! This story says some interesting things. The first thing that strikes me is that this insane guy wasn’t recruited by the CIA or FBI. Perhaps their profiling determined he wasn’t useful for mass murder incidents? After all, he’s not white and the story of the DC sniper(s) really didn’t go well at the end.