If you understand how the Dept of Homeland Security and FBI access and ultimately control the content of social media platforms, specifically the public opinion square of Twitter, then you can start to understand a much bigger aspect to this hidden court case.
KEY CONTEXT – During the Twitter File releases, existing DHS/FBI guidance controlled what the Twitter legal team was allowed to share with researchers. The Twitter File group gave Twitter search terms, and the Twitter team entered the search words/phrases and generated results. However, the Twitter legal team then had to filter that information against the instructions of DHS/FBI to determine what the research group was allowed to know; ultimately, what was allowed to become public information.
This reality stimulates the question: where/when did that prior guidance from DHS/FBI originate? The answer to that question is discovered in a little-known lawsuit by Twitter against the U.S. government.
Please do not overlook the dates here.
Back in 2014, Twitter sued the government, “seeking to make public the number of times the FBI requested user information from the company in connection with national security investigations.” {link} Why? Because during the Obama administration, Twitter “was blocked from publishing the quantity of requests in its biannual online “Transparency Report,” claiming the government unlawfully restrained its speech.” {link}
In essence, DHS/FBI were weaponizing Twitter data and demanding information on specific users, specific inquiry about issues of greatest concern to the Obama administration. The Obama administration then told Twitter they were not permitted to talk about their demands due to “national security” issues. Twitter was barred from telling the public what was happening.
Keep in mind, the lawsuit by Twitter against the Obama administration (DHS/FBI) was in 2014, so the demands from government were ‘prior to’. Now, does my prior outlining of “Jack’s Magic Coffee Shop” start to make more sense? [Keep in mind, I received a ridiculous subpoena for writing about this.]
The Twitter lawsuit against the government wound its way through the lower courts and various levels of appeal. Each lower court ruled against the release of the information, forbidding Twitter from releasing the information. Why? Because the executive branch, in this example Obama DHS/FBI, have unilateral authority to determine what constitutes a “national security” issue. If DHS/FBI says the issue is a “national security” threat, the judicial branch is not prepared to challenge that definition.
Ultimately the lawsuit ended up at the doors of the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court refused to engage the question thereby supporting the rulings of the lower court. You can read about THAT PART HERE. However, there’s another layer to this story that needs to be accurately understood, because this deference by the judicial branch to the executive branch is part of how the system is weaponized.
You might remember this 11th circuit court of appeals ruling against Trump; it essentially encapsulates the issue:
These rulings are essentially correct, as following the process within a constitutional republic. However, here’s the rub. The weaponized Deep State are using this deference, as a tool in their Lawfare arsenal.
If the Deep State can unilaterally determine what constitutes “national security,” and if the judicial branch is not going to review or challenge those determinations, then the executive branch can target people, target institutions, and/or conduct domestic surveillance while hiding their conduct behind the shield of national security.
That’s exactly what the weaponized institutions (DHS, DOJ, FBI) have been doing.
That’s exactly the process that Barack Obama and Eric Holder created.
That’s exactly the motive for Eric Holder creating the DOJ National Security Division (DOJ-NSD).
Now, can you see the bigger issue, as presented by the Twitter case against government, that was just highlighted by the Supreme Court decision not to get involved.
The DOJ-NSD is the targeting mechanism for corrupt interests in our government to target us. The Dept of Homeland Security and the FBI unite in the process and provide the results to the DOJ-NSD for action against the targets. The collaboration then uses “national security” as the technique to stop those being abused by the targeting system from ever finding out, and the judicial branch cannot provide oversight.
Hopefully, this helps people put the scale of the ‘weaponization of government’ issue into a context.
That’s how they are carrying out Lawfare. That’s why there’s no process to impede them within the ordinary structures of constitutional protection.
Their ability to use “national security” as the justification for all of the corrupt targeting and surveillance is ultimately the source of power for the Fourth Branch of Government.
Supreme Court is essentially saying your Constitutional rights are not absolute and are open for interpretation . So what good is a Constitution if an installed government, in this case void of checks and balances as a result of unmitigated election fraud, can declare whatever they want to be a crisis or national security threat thereby removing your rights as they please.
Someone went out of their way to say Gorsuch took no part in this decision?
Wonder if he was the ONLY justice to remove themself from this?
Meanwhile, at PresTrump’s appeal court, women judges are entertaining wild-hair extremist fantasies about a sitting President sending a Seal Team to kill his political rivals
As Angry White Dude used to say:
“I crap you negative”
DEVELOPING… Appeals Court Skeptical of Trump Immunity: Biden Judge Asks Trump Lawyer if President Can Order SEAL Team 6 to Assassinate Rivals
… seemingly totally oblivious to the greater likelihood that machinations by the opposite party may well be in the works (my aside) … ask those journalists recently overheard having that discussion, it’s in the news
… and, actually, it’s not “a sitting President” the Appeals Justices are fantasizing about
… it’s ONE specific man
… a re-elected and sitting President Donald Trump
And they questioned PresTrump’s attorneys, in public, in the Appeals courtroom to speculate on the fantasy
Unbelievable
yeah, and I said “Women” judges for a reason
ponder it awhile
Appears they are contemplating “extra late term abortion” now.
As nutty as everything all is right now, they might try to call it that to evade responsibility for what it actually is.
Even more outrageous is the fact that they are Biden appointed judges. This is a travesty.
They should have recused themselves!
He’s illegitimate and so are ALL of his appointees, IMHO.
The lawyers should have returned by saying can a sitting president persecute his opponent?
What ever happened to Angry White Dude? His blog just suddenly stopped. Pressured to do so?
Yes
I think he may have been de-platformed
One of the most important qualities when considering a candidate for a judicial appointment is his or her DEMONSTRATED capacity for judicial TEMPERANCE. Every single judge selected for these persecutions against PDJT was singled out for his or her EXTREME lack thereof. (McAfee seems to hide his pretty well, but I’m sure it’s there.)
does anyone know why he removed himself?
It appears to be similar to the cowardly action that Congressmen use by voting “present”.
I too wonder if there were others Pontius Pilots washing their hands from their responsibilities.
Just as with the COVID “emergency”.
Corrupt Judge Boasberg was/is on the secret Bush manufactured Fisa court …These are the completely compromised deep state actors and proven frauds telling us what is a crisis or national security threat. Basically anything that supports MAGA.
Nuff Said.
Perfect.
You said more with those images than most of us can articulate.
Look up “punchable face” and you’re likely to see Carlin.
SMUG, hateful.
Corruption unlimited.
That’s all nice that we know who the unelected totalitarians are running our government and what is going to change if President Trump isn’t elected? Nothing? If he’s elected with a Democrat Congress? Not much. If he has a Republican Congress just a little more than not much? Speaker Mike Johnson is a joke so far and McConnell doesn’t come up reelection until 2026! Unless there is a significant increase in MAGA and America Firsters getting elected to Congress in 2024 what will really change? The border maybe closed but who will support President Trump deporting the millions ChiCom Joe invited in? Lawfare will tie up in the courts any effort to remove them. The left gives Constitutional rights to any potential Democrat voter the moment they step foot in the country!!! JMO
Yes…and the way Sundance phrased it makes me think that, for a lot of us anyway, “public health” will never again be an excuse for anything in our lifetimes in our spheres of influence. There are plenty of regulations and stuff out there still waiting to be weaponized into making everyone wear masks again…but they keep trying and nobody’s having it. (“nobody” = nobody except the small percentage of people who are wearing them voluntarily anyway, but what do we care if they want to go around looking like sideways duckbills. It’s the mandates that were the real problem.)
So…could “national security” go away as an excuse also, if enough people understand what Sundance is saying and realize what it’s done to them? Right now a lot of former petty tyrants won’t enforce their own mask rules anymore because they are afraid the response now will not be compliance, but a razzing. Can we imagine an America where “because, national security” brings cold stares, some gun-type clicking sounds, and “Yeah? Try again.”
Certainly since Biden keeps claiming “climate change” is our biggest national security threat. 🙄🤡
I have a doctor in a group health company –
when looking for a new doctor, I found out that
starting Jan. 1, 2024 most (perhaps all?)
were not taking Medicare. They were changing
to accepting Medicare Advantage only which
is equivalent to an HMO whereby one will
need a doctor recommendation prior to seeing
a specialist.
I suspect it will be near impossible to get
any recommendations.
when under an HMO if your primary does not recommend you to a specialist they get an end of year bonus. so they are highly incentivized NOT to recommend.
exactly. we are all screwed until bullets fly
We are even more screwed in that event.
Would be a shame if someone hacked X and put it on the Internet
“ Catcha’ 22 “ said the Italian Lady, “ Catcha’ 22 “
This is –
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch-22_(logic)
Can someone please explain to me why the Supreme Court of the United States would allow this to stand? Why would they not correct it so that the American people are sovereign as they are supposed to be?
You’re acting like this is a functioning nation.
Open your eyes before it’s too late.
The Deep State has kompromat on most if not all of the “Justices?”
If only we could see those Epstein blackmail videos …
^^^^^^^
Knowing who’s in the videos would be enough.
disagree. Without seeing, actually experiencing, the depth of their depravity, as disgusting as that is, we would not really know what they did, only what someone else told us (hearsay).
I went down the 4chan rabbit hole. I have no desire to re-live that experience or ask others to do so. But you’ve got to know what they did before you can responsibly opine on what should be done.
They’re not all recorded by the Epstein “faction”.
Sundance just basically told you the reason in the article. Re-read it.
Like the lower courts in this case, SCOTUS apparently also has a majority of Justices who are too chickenshit (weak-spined/ timid / intimidated/ corrupt/(__fill in the blank)__) to challenge the DOJ/FBI’s blatant ABUSE of the classification “national security” to cover up their 4th Amendment violations en masse of American citizens who use social media and other internet / electronic communications.
too chickenshit to challenge the DOJ/FBI’s blatant ABUSE of … yada yada
One doesn’t need a particularly long memory to reflect back on that Supreme who didn’t come back from a ranching outing … gnomesayin’?
7 ways from Sunday, y’all
So they’ve been cowed into not honoring their oath of office. I never did read about anyone researching Scalia’s true cause of death.
It’s officially a banana republic.
Generally, people who aspire to be judges are not exactly brave souls. They like the idea of job security, relative anonymity when it comes to controversial decisions by hiding behind per curiam decisions, the written as opposed to the spoken word, getting their position through political connections and not popular support, and for trial judges, complete authority over their little fiefdoms known as their chambers.
There’s no doubt in my mind he knew a horde of horrors implicating high-ups. I pray he’s resting in peace…
and with Congress delegating their constitutional authority to the executive…. no checks and balances.
There is only one reason…they are complicit or compromised.
How did Justice Roberts adopt his children, again?
^^^^^
They are ALL compromised stooges.
The constitution has been a dead letter for a long time, and the likes of John Roberts will never revive it.
Separation of powers. All branches are equal-legislative, judicial, executive. Judicial (US Supreme Court) is supposed to uphold the US Constitution to protect we, the people, in particular our enumerated and articulated rights to free speech, peaceably assemble, freedom of religion, right to bear arms, no unreasonable search and seizures, due process, speedy trial, no cruel and unusual punishment, right to jury in criminal case. Here, the US Supreme Court is neglecting its obligation to uphold our constitutional rights hiding behind the executive branch’s “national security” shield. Time that shield was pierced because it is not protecting the peoples’ interest just the Deep State. Exhibit 1- J6 defendants and the entire DC Court of Appeals cast.
Because they are choosing “security” over liberty.
Their security – not ours.
Makes one want to vomit.
And people think the Supreme Court will save us.
Ha!
Exactly.
I’m not ready to throw them out yet. I hold out hope there are enough righteous justices to prevail.
not saying there doesn’t need to be a house cleaning.
oh, they will throw a bone now and then
Keep your notes and summaries for Constitution 2.0. We’ll need lots of input to prevent these legal abominations next time.
Apparently the constitution is a threat to our democracy.
You Mean the
“ democracy “
That Both Plato / Socrates and
Jefferson WARNED OF
because
they were Abhorred by the Depravity of
Ancient Greece and The French Revolution
that “ democracy “ ?
Quinn: Thanks very much for that brilliant observation.
My comment could be taken two different ways; sarcastically referring to the so-called “democracy” that the Democrats say say we have (and which we don’t want), and yes indeed the constitution is a threat to the democracy that Plato/Socrates/Jefferson warned of.
So yes indeed, the Constitution righteously is a threat to democracy.
Our Democracy is THEIR term for the ongoing coup.
Understand that and literally EVERY time you see the term pop up in context, the actual meaning intended becomes crystal clear.
Firstly, we don’t have one, tho I think it would be preferable to our current DC bullsh*t.
That democracy.
Why did my question disappear? Why would the Supreme Court of all this to stand? Why are the American people not sovereign as they are supposed to be?
Sometimes there is a lag with posts appearing. It can be caused by the cache in your browser — among other things.
Here’s your question 👆👆
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/01/09/very-revealing-supreme-court-refuses-to-permit-twitter-to-outline-scope-of-fbi-dhs-unlawful-domestic-surveillance/#comment-10479554
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Because the country is being ran into the ground by crooks and commies.
” The Obama administration then told Twitter they were not permitted to talk about their demands due to “national security” issues. Twitter was barred from telling the public what was happening.”
How can you tell just how dishonest these people are?
The more times they utter the words “national security”, the more dishonest they are.
“National Security. ”
“Sources and Methods.”
“Ongoing Investigation.”
Translation: “None of your business. Go eff yerself.”
When they don’t want to give an answer these are the go-to phrases they use.
“Lack of standing”
If YOU talk, then YOU are obstructing Justice.
“Special Councils. ”
“Fisa Courts. “
“Safest most secure elections in history” also comes to mind….
It’s funny how “national security” is never uttered regarding the invasion on our southern border. Only true Americans are a threat to “national security.”
It is good that this information is out there for ALL to see, especially if certain consumers of this content feel some heat. Ahhh! Nice, warm sunshine!
Is there no one in this entire, god forsaken Government who stands for the Constitution and the People?
Not until Trump returns, sadly.
We are on our own.
We can thank Trump for the eye openings! The “awakened” are now overcoming the “woke!”
i PRAY SO !
it’s Been Mentioned SEVERAL Times HERE and OTHER Places that WE, the United States as Israel of Old –
HAD TO SUFFER Persecution and TRIBULATIONS to BRING ABOUT REPENTANCE and RENEWAL
Israel is re-constituted but still not the righteous government as foretold. But don’t tell them that.
“Judah” is reconstituted maybe.
“Israel” were the other 10 tribes.
Where are they?
There is just no way out of this, only a separation will suffice at this point in time.
Unfortunately, Texas keeps electing that turd in a chair and Florida elected a phony.
Damn these Evil People to Hell.
I’m so sick of the epidemic of Cowardice in our FILTHY “LEADERS”
God Bless Sundance. A True Leader
With the problem so accurately summed up, what is the solution to the problem?
This is the stuff communists dream about, and right now they are living the dream.
How do they get held accountable?
Even if President Trump defeats every legal challenge, defeats every election cheat, and gets back in office, with the courts willing to buy what DOJ/FBI/DHS are willing to lie about, how does it get stopped?
May God hold them all accountable. Not just on Judgement Day, but here, in front of everyone. With extreme detail. The sooner the better.
There must be consequences.
Trump 2024.
God Bless America.
Amen, bro. We need a thousand “Trumps”in government and we need to excommunicate the criminals after seizing all their ill gained assets.
Here in my home state…the RINOs are fleeing their Indiana seats! Now we need qualified MAGA Constituionalists to run and win!
Obama and Holder created this monster so another president and his AG can kill it. And, since the supremes do not want to interfere in the Executive branch they’ll have to let it too stand. That’s logical so I’m probably wrong.
PDJT appoints an honest attorney general and FBI Director (and other offices). The Senate refuses. PDJT finds one honest Senator (an imagined fantasy?) who calls for a quorum vote when the Senate or House pretend to be in session, when they are actually in recess. PDJT immediately makes recess appointments.
PDJT, as president declassifies (Executive Order…?) all records and information about domestic influence/control of news, social media, publications, political activities, the wasserman, seth rich laptops/records/investigation, the epstein tapes/records and all other ‘ kompromat’ on judges/justices/senators/representatives/DOD/statedepartment leadership. A first disclosure release is made immediately with only redaction for compliance with the privacy statute while further release is resolved.
PDJT orders stopping of domestic “Leaks” by government officials in criminal cases, and directs the AG/FBI to track them down and prosecute the leakers.
PDJT directs the AG to prosecute coordination and/or conspiracy of Government officials to repress “free speech” as civil rights violations under color of law.
Recall that last time Mac (aka married to CCP) did not allow Senate to recess, thereby keeping Trump from making recess appointments. AND NOT ONE SENATOR REFUTED THIS (which is all that’s necessary to defeat this gimmick).
They were loyal ONLY to Tunahead. The president got nothing, even from the 2 stalwarts.
Sounds about right.
What will Obama do when Fourth Branch decides they don’t need him any more as they have all power in their grasp?
The Dunhams (Barry’s maternal lineage) have multi-generation ties to the intelligence community .
BHO is one of The Family.
Been watching America’s untold Stories? MARK is da man
not a fan of obama, but I very much doubt he or holder hatched this plan.
this was a scheme COLLECTIVELY advanced for decades. They were just the useful tools that did not stand in the way to prevent the expansion of it.
for more reasons why I have this view, one only needs to understand the broad power of the secret police spy state. Obama and holder have no intimate technological skills sets. nor was this their original ideas. It only served their interests in a moment when these tools and expanded scope of them were explained to them at the right time and moment when they understood how it could help their political ends.
this is one of the reasons why we absolutely need to stop pretending that people like joe malarkey is running the show. most presidents do not run the show. I would argue even President Trump was not running the show. He made a serious run at it, but ultimately, what did we observe? that nothing short of a miracle that he could have achieved so much with all the direct throttling to his administration. And from where did that throttling come, and why?
deep state/secret police spy state! It was clearly a case that President Trump could not be manipulated. That he stood in the way and openly expressed his views and position and did run contrary to the private interests of the secret police spy state.
the question I still have trouble reconciling? why did comey come out with just days before the election in the october suprise and throw a nuclear bomb on hillary clinton. Lets not be insincere about that. it had a PROFOUND effect on clinton. I could argue it all but guaranteed a victory for President Trump. What was the reason for this? remove the party brand and affiliation and do the math?
perhaps the secret police spy state feared hillary clinton in power as potus more than even Trump? or said a different way, perhaps the corruptors considered President Trump easier to manipulate and influence…remember Pence…and several others in his close association. Maybe they just did not have that kind of presence in the clinton arena. I dunno. You look at it, and it seems obvious there was something very troubling to the secret police state about hillary…so much so, they did not leave it up to chance and comey comes forward with the october surprise to push her aside and make it a lock for Trump to victory.
it’s obviously just speculation on my part. But I also do not believe in coincidences. Comey served a purpose. And it was clear his task was the damage clinton sharply right up to the election. And when you look at the reasons, it made no legal or rational sense to even mention it. After all, there were no charges drawn. it was in effect, a scheme to simply soul the voters on clinton….that is obvious. the fbi doesn’t do things like this, because it follows “by the book” principles. the fbi does things like this for a specific purpose..and THAT appeared to me as simply taking her out of the race and putting it’s wager on “managing” trump as the “easier to manipulate” potus. of course, we don’t see it this way, because after all, he never caved in. I don’t think they estimated just how credible his desire was to actually fulfill his campaign promises. I think they truly believed he would be a coward and dodge a confrontation to protect his family and empire. They were mistaken. They effed around and found out how bad that wager was. And so this helps to explain why they went to and continue to spend limitless amounts of resources to put an end to the trump regime. They woke a sleeping giant in my opinion. Perhaps we should consider this bigger picture more often to understand the nature of this corrupt central state. It has power that is unchallenged in so many ways. I doubt anyone could have imagined it would ever be possible for someone like joe malarkey to be installed. That speaks to the wickedness, but also the power of the secret police state to do things that we consider impossible and unimaginable. And yet, it does happen. IF we fail to respect the power of this enemy, we are certain to remain under the domain of its unchallenged power. I find that unacceptable. I will never be okay with that. ever
God Bless America
🎯🎯🎯💥💥💥💥💥💥
EXACLTY!
bravo, regi
7 ways from Sunday
I think Comey had to say something about the emails found on Weiner’s laptop before the 2016 election. Strzok fumbled the coverup and there was too much pressure blowing the lid off.
Most of the feds are not great master planners, but they are adept at navigating within and profiting from circumstances which they can’t control.
I agree with you about Obama and Holder; mere flashy hood ornaments on a mysterious car driven silently by a committee.
” o ” and Holder WILL BE Expended JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE At the End of Their USEFULNESS
Or
IF They Step Outside Their Designated Perimeters
The Fourth Branch may have seen something they didn’t like as Clinton transition team accelerated activities in October 2016 and hit the brakes:
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/hillary-clinton-transition-team-hiring-staff-230157
The deep plot sabotaging HRC campaign is likely another classified National Security secret never to be declassified and released.
“Oft evil will shall evil mar.”
Following up on your speculation, I2ho was the CTH (Confidential Human Sources) of the FBI in the 2016 Trump campaign and administration, redacted from the so-called IG “investigation”. Was Pence involved? Was there an expectation that PDJT could be successfully convicted via impeachment, or would tire of harassment and resign? Pence would be President.
Did the derp state have CHRs in the hillary campaign (I doubt it, because her coterie was built over many years, not quickly like PDJT’s)? If elected, Hillary had too many loyal dems to be convicted of impeachment, whereas the GOP was more than willing to impede and remove PDJT (even with House and Senate majorities in the early years) Also, Hillary’s running-mate Tim Kaine may not have been as malleable as Pence (IIR he voted against Haspel and Pompeo)
who knows…
Perhaps Obama team decided to get rid of Clinton influence once and for all, and even though they hated Trump, they thought he was stupid and could be controlled by the deep state, including McConnell.
One question: how does sanders fit into all of this? He could have defeated hillary in the primary, but the fix was in. Had he won, Hillary would have been out of the picture as they wanted.
The Staters award the presidency to that special someone who can manage good poll ratings and present themselves well on camera. There is no shortage of qualifying, soulless people who’ll do ANYTHING for their place in history. Biden wanted it bad enough to comply.
I just watched the Netflix series The Night Agent, featuring a fully colluded FBI and Secret Service out to reward their favorite defense contractor.
Or was it an attempt to defuse the issue? I recall the stank around her getting pretty bad; then suddenly came the infuriating Comey absolution.
I honestly thought they were trying to make it harder for DJT to attack her on that front. Hilarious if the move made it worse for her.
Maybe they’re not the evil geniuses we imagine.
Good critical thinking, Regitiger.
IMHO Hillary & Bill were both far too blatant in their career-long corruption; the FBI & Secret Service had very likely witnessed that firsthand. The FBI (with tacit approval by certain other corrupt Deep State high powers) likely decided that trying to cover her crimes would have required FAR more effort and risk of exposure than working to undermine Trump.
They also knew that Trump was innocent of corruption or any sex kompromat that had been fabricated against him. I am guessing they also knew Hillary WASN’T innocent of crimes for which there was likely a high risk of hard evidence being held by potential blackmailers.
Considering the Epstein evidence that we have seen versus what we have not yet been allowed to see, I can easily imagine that my theory may be proven within some of that evidence…..
Alice: How can you make words mean so many different things?
Humpty Dumpty: The question is, who is to be master, that’s all.
I think I was too young when I tried to read that book. Nothing made any sense to a 7 year old but in some way I knew it just might be true enough eventually.
<Alice: How can you make words mean so many different things?
Humpty Dumpty: The question is, who is to be master, that’s all.>
Alice: ‘Be careful getting down from the wall.’
Twitter – DHS/FBI (IC writ large) since at least 2011 – DARPA (DOD) – Social Media In Stategic Communications (SMICS). Monitor linguistics, trends, views to influence or censor. Create PSYOPS or counter-PSYOPS to favor government goals and/or cover up wrong doing.
Think similar to Facebook/ Meta construct to Lifelog program.
DOJ NSD – subsidiary or domestic (legalizing) “field station” for CIA.
Eric Holder “created” the NSD per instructions/direction.
He is a puppet like the rest and he is not smart enough now nor then to have thought this up on his own, on his best day.
Who would have been responsible for defending or constructing the defense for the 2014 case by Twitter and claim “national security” interests as a defense?
Mary McCord – Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General for the DOJ NSD (2014-16).
There she is again!
how about Henry Kissinger? The DOJ NSD post seems like a fortuitus creation rather than a long ago planned one.
MM could have inherited the plan. She seems smart enough to lead some tasks to completion, but I don’t see her as an architect on this scale. She spent a number of years in the color revolution business, doesn’t leave a lot of time for big picture planning.
Please re-read.
I never said Mary McCord “created” the NSD.
And Henry Kissinger worked State Dept or similar roles, not DOJ.
I said she would have been responsible for the lawsuit defense in 2014 due to her position at that time.
“she” is really a “he”
Sundance’s first two paragraphs above ^^^^
Reconcile with following:
Web: DARPA Social Media in Stategic Communications (SMISC) – focus on first three paragraphs;
Web: Information Professionals Association – “The Story Behind the DARPA SMISC Program” by Rand Waltzman.
So … Elon FORCED our Deep State government to show their hand. And you all STILL don’t trust Elon? IDK … he’s building up quite a library of conservative comments and moves.
2014…. Please read the articles and attempt to understand them.
Touché
Thank you SD … but I can read:
Courts have largely disagreed. In March, a Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals panel concluded that “Twitter has a First Amendment interest in commenting on matters of public concern involving national security subpoenas,” but its request “would risk making foreign adversaries aware of what is being surveilled and what is not being surveilled.” The American Civil Liberties Union called the decision “disappointing and dangerous,” arguing that “not only did the panel’s decision conflict with decades of Supreme Court precedent, but its reasoning could enable broad restrictions on speech concerning our interactions with the government.”
The company, at that point owned by billionaire Elon Musk, similarly argued to the Supreme Court that this would “substantially erode” previous First Amendment precedents.
It seems as though Musk (not Jack) appealed the March 2023 decision by the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals to the Supreme Court. That is a potentially costly move for a man who shed 50% of Twitter’s staff to save $$$. I suppose one could theorize that Musk KNEW the SCOTUS would reject the Appeal, and hence he risked very little $$? However … per my point above … he FORCED the SCOTUS to show their hand … to show that they choose some warped construct of “National Security” to further the SICK surveillance State.
2014 isn’t really relevant to my point.
You are completely conflating two completely different legal issue, apparently trying to combine and making arguments on costs and other issues that make no logical sense.
Conflating? Hardly. Twitter, X, has lost 71.5% of its value since Musk’s purchase. Spending money on an APPEAL to the SCOTUS … which Musk initiated … doesn’t exactly help the companies bottom line. My point is that Musk SPENT the money on an appeal … money he can ill-afford to lose … when he didn’t need to.
its all well and good that Jack initially filed the lawsuit in 2014 … but it was Musk who appealed to the SCOTUS in 2023 … that’s a FACT.
Kenji I agree with your attempt to put Musk in a more positive light via his lawsuit. I have myself been using Twitter a lot more over the past 6 to 9 months than I ever did previously, mostly because of the seemingly large number of pro-Trump / more constitutionally-aware users than I’d seen before. So I have mentally credited Elon with maintaining a more “open” platform.
But I still am very aware that it could all be a “honey trap” of sorts, luring in unsuspecting conservatives who may incriminate themselves by their advocacy of actions that may breach certain “tripwires” in the FBI Secret Police’s estimation…
My point is that Elon may have felt this suit was necessary to cover his ass for knowing what the FBI is doing when that unconstitutional surveillance has become mainstream public knowledge. There’s no way for us to know if that lawsuit actually cost him anything…….
Fair enough GB. And trust me … I am a natural-born skeptic, and you may well be right that Elon is a wolf in conservative clothing. That’s my NATURAL instinct. Perhaps I should be at least as wary of him as I am of Ramaswamy.
But the big difference between Musk and Vivek is that Musk has a LOT MORE to lose (X-users, advertisers … $$$$$) when he makes conservative statements and moves. Vivek has a lot to GAIN when he (perhaps) pretends to embrace conservative ideals. That … makes a BIG difference in my thoughts and analysis of Musk and Vivek. He is putting a LOT on the line when he aligns with “our side”. That’s not lost on me.
I agree that Ramaswamy should remain a suspicious player in voters’ eyes. As for Elon I only floated my thoughts as to possibilities. Until Elon does something more overt against Trump & MAGA conservatives, I won’t condemn him for something of which we have no proof, even though we know what Twitter provides to the fascists in DC.
100% agreed
Elon hasn’t forced nothing.
It wa obvious before he ever got involved and several put it out there, including and especially Sundance, what was going on.
And he’s still supporting Meatball, a Sea Island and DS candidate.
AND, the lawsuit began in 2014 before Elon ever came along.
Did you just insinuate Musk is trustworthy?
OMG…the aisles are FILLED!!!! Photo is too old.
My Walgreens still looks like these full shelves.
Game, set, match. It’s over ladies and gents.
“Now, can you see the bigger issue, as presented by the Twitter case against government, that was just highlighted by the Supreme Court decision not to get involved.”
Profiles in Courage.So if anyone could hack into Twitter and expose the info, that might be fair game, or would we then have a Julian Assange 2.0?
If there is a majority of members on the SCOTUS that abide by the Constitution and their oath of office the court would require specifics & evidence to the court evidencing the explicit national security risk, rather than just taking the governments word for it.
If SCOTUS is not given any then the court should rule that there isn’t any national security risk and release the information.
That would result in the criminal activity being explicitly transparent to far more Americans.
If a majority of the court is rotten, I guess we find ourselves where we are.
The real “risk” at hand is imprisonment of the bad actors in the alphabets.
Odds?
Or should we ask Seth Rich’s brother to assist.
Us first!
I met a blogger who sang the blues
And asked him for some happy news
But he just frowned and turned away
I went down to the sacred site
Where I’d heard about the Constitution years before
But the man there said that music would no longer play
From Heaven above, the Founding Fathers screamed
Lady Liberty wept and the Democrats schemed
But not a word was spoken, the Bill of Rights was all broken
And as the flames climbed high into the night to light the sacrificial rite
I saw Stalin’s and Hitler’s ghosts, the FBI and DHS laughing with delight
During the years American freedom died
apologies to Don McLean. Good poetry though.
It’s BS. It invites totalitarian government and excoriates the fourth amendment and it also wrecks the separation of powers doctrine. IOW it is unconstitutional and ignores “We The People”. As we are seeing first hand it also encourages and permits persecution via lawfare. Therefore it is not lawful. Where do I comment to SCOTUS?
Yes, the non-ruling that legitimizes totalitarian government.
Cause there going to care what you say?
No, but will make me feel better and keep my sanity, mostly. Same reason I comment here.
I understand. You want to vent.
I wish Gorsuch and others would have had the guts to at least vent.
This explains all of the judicial blunders in election cases all over the nation. Election process is national security. Critical Infrastructure.
With an unopposed, and massive, invasion across our southern border, any talk of national security is a farce.
New California law allows non-U.S. Citizens to become police officers
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https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/local/california-law-allows-non-us-citizens-to-become-police-officers/509-c10419f3-12b1-475e-a6cf-eba00c5337f7
What could possibly go wrong? SMDH
Depends on what nation is being referenced. Hint: it ain’t that if the Founders.
Takeaway #1: No justices dissented. The Court did not explain its decision.
Takeaway #2: The SCOTUS is compromised and the U.S. Constitution has “no standing.”
Takeaway #3: Are we sure they won’t rule in favor of removing Trump from ballots?
Takeaway #4: The Court lost all legitimacy and sounded the death knell of the nation when it failed to take up the Texas (and 19 other state) suits challenging the 2020 stolen election — including the three Trump-appointed “Justices” who stabbed him in the back — by swing states that openly violated black letter constitutional law.
#Takeaway #5: WASTF.
they first lost me when they declared Obamacare a tax
Have you people pulled your heads out of the sand yet.
“A judges republic is a contradiction in terms”
Stop believing in the courts to do the right thing.
We are not going to win this until we “the people”
act.
Voting isn’t going to fix this.
This country is toast.
Wake up!!!
So the court is allowing a corrupt government to take away rights, suppress freedoms over pandemics, allow states to cheat in elections, etc., without any checks and balances!!!!
Unreal. What a farce. Someone needs to challenge this corruption further in the courts as this can’t stay.
The government is tyrannical and the courts don’t care!!!!
So SCOTUS just made it official that people that work for the government can violate Americans’ constitutional rights and they will not have recourse in court. What choice do they think that leaves Americans when we know we cannot receive equal justice under the law?
Exactly. You have no standing.
It makes one wonder just how deep the rot, corruption and complicity of SCOTUS really reaches…..
IMHO Alito and Thomas are the ONLY SCOTUS Justices who understand the importance of the Constitution and that everything being done by the “4th Branch” is dangerously unconstitutional and increasingly fatal to the nation’s continued existence as a sovereign democratic federal republic.
The Constitution has been flipped on it’s head. Individual rights have been superceded by Government ‘rights” even though the Constitution is a limiting bargain between the governors and the governed. And when freedom is infringed without a lawful way to regain it tragedy is bound to ensue.
The courts have no military divisions. Americans cannot be forced to do anything by criminals in black robes. This ends when the American people are united against the tyranny. When the people refuse to play along, it’s over.
Must protect O’Bamma at any cost.
Only thing “supreme” about this corrupt cabal is the level of pure evil.
💯👏🏻🎯
They found a weakness and exploited it. This is pure evil.
It will take strong, courageous people to recognize and defeat this evil. This should be a sign that we are not dealing with your everyday blow Joe. No, the people we are dealing with have an evil depth that is frightening.
To defeat this type of enemy requires someone who recognizes the depth of depravity we are dealing with, but also the balls willing to take it on head on.
Go Trump! (And anyone else willing to fight along side of him!!! Count me in!!!!!)
The US Supreme Court admitted it erred in Roe v. Wade. Were people with pitchfoks marching down the street?
It was 5-4 for reversing Roe. All three of Trump’s appointees were in the “5.”
IMHO Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett were pre-disposed against Roe when McConnell or whoever recommended them to Trump. That’s easily a GOPe favorite social issue. It doesn’t hurt their grift or other corruption..
Hmmmmm….
But who says twitter even spent good money on the case with the best lawyers?
Maybe twitters arguments were weak as they are just going through the motions to appear unbiased ? Maybe Twitter likes the censorship/surveillance and now they get to blame the government vs them?
Idk. Just ideas as I don’t trust either side. Lol.
Doesn’t seem like you read the whole article.
Similar to ‘ongoing investigation’ excuse used by DOJ?FBI when questioned by oversight committees.
What good is a Constitution if the Supreme Court permits one branch of government the ability to enmesh ALL other branches and enterprises in the make believe tale of national security in order to keep a political opponent from seeking office
The Supreme Court is part of this charade
“Their ability to use “national security” as the justification for all of the corrupt targeting and surveillance is ultimately the source of power for the Fourth Branch of Government.”
Which should tell one a lot about politicians who constantly use the phrase “national security” to justify anti-Constitutional actions, for example candidate Nimrodda and her push to censorship.
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I do have a disagreement about their ruling being “essentially correct” regarding the docs from Mara Logo – the PRESIDENT is the ultimate authority on all matters of classification and thus PDJT should have been the deciding voice regarding documents involved with his time as President.
A side comment is that for a functioning government, where the 3 branches of government are (supposed to be) co-equal (and below the people, NOT above), there should never be allowed a mechanism by which one branch can tell the others – you have no oversight or say in this matter. Just as there are members of Congress who are given clearances in order to see and hear highly classified information for purposes of oversight (setting aside their current eye-deep involvement and corruption), the same should be the case for the judicial branch (like, say…FISA) for the purpose of oversight of the executive branch to ensure their actions do not violate the Constitution or the people’s rights.
Of course, all of this is strongly linked to the bill that should have never been passed – the “
PatriotAnti-Constitution Act.”JMO.
In 2025, President Trump will take the oath of office of the President of the United States.
The oath is found in Article II of the Constitution. It contains 35 words and goes as follows:
“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”
It demands he “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”
As such, it doesn’t require of him to do the same for the unconstitutional administrative-state’s rules, acts, declarations, interpretations, agreements, and even some laws that the un-American globalists have enacted over the past century, slowly eroding the freedoms and rights of the American citizens defined in the “original Constitution and the legally approved amendments.”
As President, he cannot associate with, nor defend, any “written law that is unconstitutional.”
This the “written law” that Thomas Jefferson wrote about when he warned Americans that the Constitution isn’t a suicide pact …… in his words:
“A strict observance of the written law is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to the written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the ends to the means.”
The “2024 Constitutional Republic Mandate” from “we-the-people” to President Trump will permanently end the unconstitutional administrative-state.
With vigor, the Executive Branch, led by G.O.A.T President Trump will just follow his oath of office, ending the corrupt congressional and judicial branches from unconstitutionally blocking him.
Just follow the United States Constitution’s oath of office for President. It is the sword that will cut through the unconstitutional administrative-state’s Gordian Knot tied around DC.
The “2024 Constitutional Republic Mandate” is intellectually and constitutionally sound
…….. it will pass the common sense test
………….. but for sure it will fail most of the “university law school” tests
……………….. because it will put them out of bussines
If there ever was a time for America’s patriots to think big and positive, it is now.
So, when your grandchildren ask you what did during the Grand MAGA / America First Re-revolution of 2024, you won’t have to tell them you watched it on your iPhone ……. but you actually blazed some new Constitutional Republic trails with the G.O.A.T. President Trump.
President Trump has an administrative Gordian Knot to cut in D.C….let’s help him out.
It is past time for small measures …….
It is the time to return to our Constitutional roots by pulling out the unconstitutional “administrative-state” weeds that have choked out our freedoms for a century.
Destroy the unconstitutional “administrative-state”, once and for all, by returning to our Constitution + amendments.
It is constitutional, it is fast and it gets the job done, once and for all.
It is the “2024 Constitutional Republic Mandate” from “we the people” to President Trump to be put in as a plank in the platform that he is running on.
“Let’s go Brandon and the democrats and the GOPe!”
I think this sums the entire thing up: the 4th Branch runs the country via the Regulatory State. Nothing you can do about it either. It’s been fully baked-in for decades. You should never expect Congress to “de-fund” the police state either. Even the pro-maga crowd doesn’t have the stones to try that.
……and you still think you can out-vote the fraud in Nov 2024?
Parallel society.
Already done in every damn city in America. It’s not a threat them, and it’s ugly. They already hold all the institutional power and they laugh at our turmoil.
While I agree with the basic posit that the original intent of the constitution is that the courts are superior to both the executive and legislative branches in deciding ANY constitutional question before it, including national security issues, I have two problems.
1) While I have no problem with SCOTUS having the final ability to decide what is and is not open to the people, I would not want that ability to extend to the lower courts. I can easily see WikiLeaks or MSNBC suing for access to highly dangerous information and a leftist Judge giving it to them. But, if that were the standard, how do you implement such without flooding SCOTUS with cases demanding such access. SCOTUS protects itself first.
2} The Twitter issues decided by this order are different from the Trump issues. Twitter was unable to show discernable harm to TWITTER in following the government’s orders, and no existing law as a basis for ignoring the govt orders thus, allowing the court to pretend that deference to the govt was a desired outcome. What Twitter wants can only be made available by a legislative act.
But Trump knows exactly what is in those documents and can thus assert:
a) the docs in question are no longer national security issues but political issues that expose govt corruption/malfeasance.
b) that demonstrable personal harm may result from sequestering those documents.
c) that the Constitution allows him, and him alone, to decide what is and is not classified.
d) that the Presidential Records Act allows him alone to decide what records are retained by him AFTER leaving office.
e) that having made such decisions as President, only impeachment and conviction by the Senate can reverse them.
“While I agree with the basic posit that the original intent of the constitution is that the courts are superior to both the executive and legislative branches in deciding ANY constitutional question before it, including national security issues, I have two problems.
1) While I have no problem with SCOTUS having the final ability to decide what is and is not open to the people, I would not want that ability to extend to the lower courts. I can easily see WikiLeaks or MSNBC suing for access to highly dangerous information and a leftist Judge giving it to them. But, if that were the standard, how do you implement such without flooding SCOTUS with cases demanding such access. SCOTUS protects itself first.”
The supreme Court offers an opinion, yet the legislative and executive branch can amend, make and execute law if the opinion is not in accordance with the Constitution and, whether Congress or the People, can create amendments.
Good post. You raise critical issues.
“But, if that were the standard, how do you implement such without flooding SCOTUS with cases demanding such access. SCOTUS protects itself first.
From what has occurred to date, I think you already have your answer – SCOTUS simply refuses to hear that “flood of cases” using either silence or “no standing” when asked why….
When you look at what has happened in the US, what has happened around the world, what has happened in the Vatican and how it fits exactly what was prophesied by Our Blessed Mother Mary in Garabandal Spain in the early 1960’s, it is easy to see the Warning happening soon. When you hear that the Pope has made plans to visit Moscow – get ready, the end of the time is upon us.
The blacks and african-americans have been screaming for 60 years that the justice system was corrupt but we ignored them because they are not in our tribe.
Now, the justice system has come for us.
Broad brushes leave little to interpret.
Do you really think we are voting our way out of this?
Nope. Been saying this here for some time.
We can’t vote or pray our way out of this. Hard cold reality.
Right there with you. Treason must be punished by death before this country can begin to heal. And there’s no shortage of it.
Delightful to know that Michelle is terrified – Trump as Prez he could unfang this monster in a heartbeat and reveal all of it – including the players at these agencies involved and who was giving orders.
Talk about a threat to THEIR DEMOCRACY.
I’m trying to warn those that don’t get this yet. There is no way they allow Trump into office.
On a related note, this article describes the “collateral consequences” memo drawn up by Eric Holder as justification for not prosecuting Democrats, lest public revelations cause collapse “of the entire government”
Sundance used to allude to a similar reason why Republicans like Bill Barr wouldn’t take action, not sure if Sundance was referring to this specific memo or just similar principles
I find the premise specious in the extreme
As if the public finding out where Democrats have been sticking their d*cks would cause our entire society to collapse
WATCH: Journalist Reveals the Clinton-Connected Reason Why the ‘Big Fish’ Elites Who Visited Jeffrey Epstein’s ‘Pedo Island’ Are Not Facing Charges
Relevant transcript:
There’s actually another Clinton connection here. When Bill Clinton was president, it was Eric Holder, the Deputy Attorney General at the time who set it up so all the big fish will never fry.
If you’re wondering why the big fish will never get caught or fried, it is because Eric Holder, when he was in the President Clinton administration, he drafted this memo which reigns supreme at the DOJ to this day.
It’s called the collateral consequences memo. And this memo, it cannot be overstated how bad this thing is.
What it basically says is that it’s the policy of the Justice Department is if the collateral consequences of prosecuting someone have big ripple effects and can take down the system.
So, the “collateral consequences” memo that Eric Holder drafted says that if the consequences could bring down the system, it’s best not to prosecute it.
This information by Brumer strongly suggests that if the whole truth regarding Epstein and his associates were revealed, the entire U.S. system of government would collapse in some form.
The fact they had made the policy in the first place was only foreshadowing it as an inevitability.
Just a matter of when. How long could they keep a lid on such damaging information? Maybe a few decades?
Yet here we are, having this conversation amidst the displayed duplicitousness and surrounded by their depravities.
They are losing their grip on control of the information they have tried so hard to bury.
By hook or crook it matters not. It must come down!
Some people are just too big to fail.
Heard that in 2016 too.
Enigma machine decryption process and UK Compartmentalization. A.K.A., CIA WWII.
The sad part is that a majority of Americans have no clue at all about this ruling, or why it was even ruled the way it was.
Good to know this, but what is the solution?
Following the concepts of the founder Thomas Jefferson:
The Constitution is to limit the federal government not the people of a state or the people’s inherent natural rights.
Since any information of any type can be declared of “national security” by any entity in the executive branch the court’s action countenances an improvised explosive device to the Constitution.
The fourth branch just established ascendancy over every other entity in the feral government. The court also implicitly sets itself once again as the interpreter of the Constitution of these United States which role it was never ever supposed to have. Thank you very much Chief Justice Marshal and bless your heart you poor thing.
Let every man be guided by his conscience at this point.
Except, of course, no one is secure! Thank you, Sundance, for your excellent research and exhaustive analysis of the miscreants’ behavior.