Tucker Carlson releases a lengthy discussion of the ramifications of an expanded Israeli War in the Middle East.
(2:00) Col. Douglas Macgregor
(4:20) Threats to the homeland
(6:12) Iran & its missiles
(13:00) Going into Gaza
(19:40) American hostages
(22:45) Impact on the American economy
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The only way Acting #BasementPresident Obama goes to war with Iran is to engineer an American loss.
The chess pieces are being positioned as we speak.
Proverbs 24:19-20
Do not fret because of evil men,
nor be envious of the wicked;
for there will be no reward to the evil man;
the candle of the wicked will be put out.
Amen!
“…the candle of the wicked will be put out.”
With righteous force!
Amen!
what if we are not the good guys?
Genesis 18:22-26
He’s not going to find 50
Loved this response, JimmyR. The spirit is surely in you. You stopped short, though…
32 Then he said, “Let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak but once more: Suppose ten should be found there?”
And He said, “I will not destroy it for the sake of ten.”
Genesis 19 tells us how many were spared, but the pillar of salt holds the greatest lesson of all.
Also, another important lesson is that man must pray to spare the wrath in order to save the righteous. God will hold back His hand until it can no longer bring forth the fruit. Then the hour of the reaping and harvest comes.
I’ve pledged allegiance to our flag and republic all my life. Not to a government here or abroad. Not to the flag of the month flown at our nation’s capital.
We don’t know what it looks like yet, but when the line is drawn in the sand, I know what side I’ll be on.
We all know what side we are on, but meanwhile, ditch debt and grow a garden. Everyone should be doing it!
We are the good guys, it’s our current occupational regime in DC that is the bad guys.
our failure to confront the evil makes us complicit.
I was talking about, We the People.
as am i!
Yes, in Gods eyes, does he give us a pass, for being too busy raising our families, etc. to do everything we could to try to stop the wholesale slaughter of 60 million babies, from abortion?
Does he hold US blameless, for the actions of our Govt., slaughtering millions, in senseless wars, from Viet Nam, to Iraq, to Afganistan, to Kosovo?
I just don’t know that we all get a pass,…
We don’t, because unlike Angels, we’re all of the same species and all related, so when one person sins, he will affect others. And we’re gathered into nations and states, etc., families, tribes. Being fewer people and more related, these are even more collectively responsible. Genetic research indicates that the Jews, no matter where they’re from (except a few very far exceptions) are pretty closely related, descended from a handful of folks. Amazing. But anyway, they are definitely related. The native born, as opposed to recently imported, Irish, are similar.
So there’s no reason we should get a pass when our close relatives have offended God with impunity for a very long time. And the U.S. Constitution doesn’t even mention God at all. So, there’s that.
what you mean “what if” kemosabe?
When, at least since Viet Nam, have we (U.S. GOV.) been the good guys, or supporting “good guys”?
“We” (U.S. GOV.) seem to be drawm to ‘supporting’ corrupt pimps, panderersDrug kingpins, sadists nazis and all around *ssholes.
From Azoz battalians to ISIS, there is Uniparty “across the aisle” support from Dems and Reps, Administrstions and CONgress, CIA and State Dept…
👉 JoeBama is just like old Dr Smith grabbing young Will Robinson(in this case Israel 🇮🇱)as a human shield 🛡 to take the force of the initial threat.👈
🤔Except Dr. Smith was not nearly as wicked nor evil.😉
👉Referencing the initial first season of Lost In Space👈
Actually Dr. Smith was evil 😈 and wicked…just not President
😳 I was thinking the evil
😈 ambience that the first season Black ⚫️ and White season Dr. Smith exuded but this color picture 📸 suffices most excellent 👌 👍💯
“Danger, Will Robinson! Danger!”
The Military Industrial Complex understands that if they were really successful, they’d put themselves out of business.
Rush used to say no one in politics wanted to solve anything or they wouldn’t have a job.
How true that is.
Just like the three letter club is not in the business of solving the crime, they are just managing it.
It’s an old truism. If you want more poverty, set up a bureaucracy for poor people.
CONTROL needs CHAOS and CHAOS needs CONTROL
-Maxwell Smart – Secret Agent 86
👆👆👆
86 described the Deep State.
Truth!
So Miss Lindsey is willing to put priority on committing US treasure to disrupt the worlds oil supply. Let’s blow up the oil market, that way as our own economy continues down the tubes we’ll have Evil Iran to blame it on. Will this at least be an environmentally friendly war?
the economy is about to implode anyway. they need someone to blame it on so we don’t finally come to our senses and break out the pitchforks.
its clearly gonna work, too. Once the Davosians threw Israel into the mix, our rallying around their manipulations became a foregone conclusion.
Covid fraud – recall all the money – fixed – bankrupt Blackrock and Vanguard for their purchases
to hide it – terrorist attack on soil
stealing the election right in our face – showed us they won’t give it up EVER
I’ve long been of the mindset that if you want to take on the problem of terrorists you focus efforts not in the middle east, but with the WEF in Davos.
from your keyboard to puttin’s ears
That swamp up next to foggy bottom is kind of full of them too. Just saying.
Apparently the Swiss are working on it, I hope the excel for the sake of the rest of us.
The current conflict in the ME appears to be the prequel to a war on American soil. Let literally millions of military aged males illegally enter the country, and you set the stage for the ultimate in crises never to be allowed to go to waste.
There is no other logical conclusion.
That leads to marshal law and the ending of elections; specifically 2024.
It’s “martial” law.
Bring in Martial Dillion, lol.
Bill Ackman’s finger in the bonds dike lasted less than half a day today. He can move the whole market — once.
If Bank of Japan can’t hold its yields down, the whole thing is poised to blow.
They need a war. And they need one now.
Just like they needed a freeze in the economy via the covid plandemic in order to survive, because it was on its way to imploding and melting down big time.
NASA fraud is the granddaddy of all frauds.
Look into the billions of tax dollars stolen since the 1960’s. All for about 42 lbs. of “moon” rocks. 😝
And you think Ukraine is a laundromat?
NASA says “hold my beer.”
When Tucker said very Few Republicans are pushing back and some seem to…. I knew Lindsay would be in there.
Ms Linda is an absolute disgrace. There little more disgusting than a eunuch with a lisp acting all tough when he/she has exactly zero to risk. The only risk to Linda is a very slight disruption to his and his pal’s cash kickbacks from military vendors, contractors and “aid” receptants.
If the Oil market goes much higher we are completely doomed under this Traitorous Regime in DC…
even if the oil prices stay the same we appear to be doomed.
I’m seeing food prices that have increased again…. some items are up 60%…. you heard that right….
60% from just LAST WEEK! This is Insanity!
Oil is going up, unless the conflict can be lessened.
And all we have to do to fix it is drill for the oil we certainly have in our own country. The Deep State is loathsome.
Stupid.
Simply seize the Venezuelan oil tankers en route to Iran nw that sanctions on Venezuela have been lifted
The CCP now has convenient bases in Cuba.
Which Biden let them set up, no questions asked.
Oopsies.
Has the childless Ms. Lindsay ever seen a war he didn’t want the USA to expand? He should be on the first plane into the war zone with the 101st Airborne.
Also, VDH disagrees with MacGregor’s assessment of Iran’s eagerness to expand this war. VDH feels Iran is currently isolated; China doesn’t want a disruption of their oil through the Straits and Russia is too bogged down in Ukraine. My Jordanian Christian friend says he has 17 different theories of who and what is pulling the strings there currently so I say who the heck really knows anything in the Middle East. What a mess!
Finally, I support Israel but many enraged Americans who support Israeli massive retaliation compare Oct 7 to 9-11. Name me one thing that’s improved in the USA since 9-11?
In the camera shots from behind, I though for certain I was 👀 at Xiden’s bald crown. I found myself waiting for something evil to burst forth from it’s skull. Then it spoke…
Listening to the policy positions of Ms Grahamnesty, she’s as nuts as her “good friend” Xiden.
Lindsey Graham, in that interview clip, is either plain drunk or under the influence of a demonic entity… Terrifying.
power is a helluva drug
Both?
His pedo problem ate his soul.
Pedo is fart en
Espanol!
Nailed it. If Ms Linda ever had a soul it was overwhelmed by his head strong ignorance. That piece of human trash is every bit as pathetic as McTurtle, the kenyan and the Demented Fraud
Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner.
Maybe he’s channeling mccain.
I had no clue that a kid could have so much clout.
and/or
MacGregor is the closest thing we have today to John Boyd.
He’s my candidate for Sec Def under PDJT 47.
Great idea. Either him or General Flynn
Flynn for CIA. As a lead in the DIA, he had visibility into CIA and knows those closet skeltons too.
Both men deserve a top spot. I like your idea there!
He makes some good (but I think obvious)points. A lot of what he is saying is conjecture and he never really says what to do about Hamas other than they should be punished and Israel should wait or not go into Gaza. The more I hear him, if you want to be talked into circles and analysis paralysis, he’s your man. He’s a guy I’d listen to because he has a lot of experience and knowledge and then say “thank you, I appreciate the contribution, you are dismissed”
You say dismissed to a man like that you’ll wind up eating your hat.
He’s solid. Loved his appearance on Napolitano the other day
https://www.youtube.com/live/iq1SjC7u8l0?si=XF_jJT0RzNzRkoQv
Agreed.
High praise indeed!
Everyone IMO ought read “Boyd”.
Yep. I’m with you.
BOYD: THE FIGHTER PILOT WHO CHANGED THE ART OF WAR by Robert Coram
The most outstanding book you are likely to read for many decades.
Before this thread gets flooded with the same stuff CTH has been flooded with for the last two weeks, I highly, highly recommend Treepers first read the article at the link below and ask themselves some deeper questions.
Compare what you see ensue here with the points the article makes about hypnosis, ladders, social compliance, programming, and nominalization (and boy do I have a few candidates for top recent Treehouse “nominalization exercise” words):
https://badlands.substack.com/p/a-hypnotists-take-on-israel-palestine
Discernment is the tool we need.
Before you emote, ask: Am I being played? By whom? For what purpose?
And yeah, he’s right. It’s painful as hell to lose all your reference points and go tos. That doesn’t mean it shouldn’t happen.
“ask: Am I being played? By whom? For what purpose?”
very… VERY agreed.
its simply saying words dont have the same definitions – so the definition fights itself via people.
butter side up, side down, – definition butter on bread.
Thanks Alex1689 for the link
🤔His point of view with a background of being a hypnotist was interesting.
👉 Not sure Referencing Q posts 📫helped his viewpoint.👈
😉He could use some reading 📚 from Sundance’s take on “information” as opposed to the labels of Disinformation” (etcetera). Still appreciate the article and link 👍.
Too much Q love.
Not enough specifics.
?w=910&dpr=1&q=75
Thanks Betsy jones for the picture 📸
Explains the Genesis chapter 3 verses 1-7 episode.
👉”…Yea, hath God said…”👈
🤔The world 🌎 is still falling for this evil 😈 sucker punch 👊
Interesting. I don’t agree with every point on the link, but parts are compelling.
Don’t take my word for it. Take a moment and read for yourselves and make your own determination.
Calling IDF forces’ causing collateral damage while taking out Hamas in Gaza “collective punishment” is a linguistic trick.
It is an Israeli policy and operational doctrine that has been standard in Israel at least since 1973. Israel has had a very consistent policy that if a terrorist act is committed by a single person in a household, Israel blows up the house and displaces everyone in it. That policy has been a thorn in Israeli relations with the world for a very long time.
Collective punishment is also a well understood concept from international human rights law. After the Nazi use of collective punishment in the territories Germany conquered, the practice was outlawed among civilized nations.
Whether you choose to regard international law as having any real meaning or enforceability or not, an entire body of international public law has come into existence since WWI. The prohibition of collective punishment is both well defined and prohibited.
Col. Macgregor shows here that he is educated in the area of international laws of war and international law in general, as any commanding officer should be who might be called upon to act overseas.
The Hague Protocols and the Third and Fourth Geneva Conventions:
https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule103
The term I was thinking of as an example of nominalization over the past few weeks is “Palestinians.” People (even many I respect deeply) jump into the argument over that word like white on rice, generating lots of heat but zero light. It is a very effective distraction from the sorts of thought pathways that Col. Macgregor takes us down.
Very different.
Abiding by the international rules for war is like telling Democrats not to lie.
We agreed to fight with knives but you brought a gun. So put your gun down. I DON’T THINK SO!
Butch Cassidy and Sundance Kid.
“Whoa, first we gotta agree on the RULES.”
“RULES? On a KNIFE FIGHT? There ARE no rules!”
“Good, glad we Agree! ” (as he kicks him in the fork).
Except no one is proposing collective punishment.
“Palestinians” is a linguistic trick, for that matter.
WAS there EVER a country called “Palestine”? No
Is there such a seperate LANGUAGE as “Palestine” or “Palestininian”? No.
Is there a seperate, distinct CULTURE as “Palestinian”, prior to 1948? No.
I am hearing that buzz word on Al Jazeera network too. “Collective punishment”
My son is a skilled hypnotist and I have seen him enable amazing changes in a very short time.
Psychiatrists often hate hypnosis. So do pain doctors.
Once you see behind the curtain you cannot unsee it.
My Rock is Christ and the Word He gave us. All else is a chasing after the wind.
Including being played by Col MacGregor.
I know. How dare I say such a thing.
Question everyone and everything. Him too. Weigh it all in the balance.
For myself, I do tend to find people who ask us to think through the consequences of actions, particularly in the light of history, to be far more convincing than people who post statements like “After we turn Gaza into a parking lot, let’s do the same to Iran!”
Lest you think I invented such a phenomenally stupid statement for purposes of hyperbole, that is almost a direct quote from a post on this site within the last 48 hours.
To be clear, Col MacGregor isn’t on my suspicious list, as you point out, question everything coming from everyone.
Thinking through the consequences of actions and, I’ll add, what is the agenda of the message/information being pushed at me?
I believe in treating others as they treat me.
Me too, but ideally me first.
Not sorry if I posted a comment here on CTH in the last few weeks that was “flooded with the same stuff.” What exactly is that “stuff?”
So glad you are on top of things and can tell me “what I need to do.”
I just watched all of this. I do not agree with everything being said, but would appreciate input from others.
With what do you disagree? Sincere question.
Agreed. MacGregor jumps right to wider war, then WW3. While it is important to mitigate against widening the war between Israel and Hamas, it seems a stretch to think that the Arab world is eager for war with Israel. All of what he said is sobering and worthy of consideration, but there were a lot of leaps in the narrative.
As long as Hamas keeps lobbing missiles and holding hostages, then the war against them must continue. Let the Palestinians rise against Hamas if they are being let down by them.
In listening to the Col. am reminded of the saying that the military when planning for the next war are really just planning on perfecting how the previous war was done.
The assumption that the rest of the Arab world is hankering for a war with Israel is based on past attacks against Israel and seems weak on including the inroads that have been made, and there have been some made, with the advent of the Abraham Accords.
I think he listened carefully to King Abdullah.
I know enough to know I have zero insight into the mindset of the Muslim nations.
I also assume that Col. McGregor, who has been a professional soldier through decades of sandbox wars, has many, many contacts throughout the Middle East and therefore a pretty good sense of the realities on the ground.
Good comment, indeed.
Around 10:00 min mark he refers to US and Israeli troops went into Gaza to help get hostages and were ‘shredded’ and took some losses/hits.
Did anyone else hear that?
Yup. I had to do a rewind to make sure I heard him say it. At first I thought he was going to mention Joey betraying our SF Troops the other day w/the photo, but then I realized what he was really saying. I got a sick feeling hit.
Notice no proof was given & has not been mentioned at all anywhere. If this is a lie everything he says is suspect.
if it is true, we need to know.
Shredded seems hyperbolic to me. I do not trust this COL.
“Joe Biden Blurts Out at End of Remarks on Bidenomics: “I Have to Go to the Situation Room. There’s An Issue I Need to Deal With” (VIDEO)”
Is the U.S. supporting the hostages for a ceasefire deal?” a reporter asked Biden.
Biden turned around and said, “We should have a ceasefire. Not a ceasefire. We should have those hostages released and then we can talk.”
WoW!
When Biden runs off to the Situation Room to deal with an “issue” he’s usually carrying a roll of double ply paper.
That would be too late, he filled his depends right there on stage
Why do you think he walks so slowly? To minimize leakage.
So, we have four theaters for the world war: CONUS, Middle East, Pacific, and Eastern Europe. Any other theaters?
the people vs. DC, if we know whats good for us.
Well, again its DC, DAVOS/Geneva, Brussels/City of London cause our enemies really ARE “Globullists” the latest iteration of marxists, but yeah thats where our enemies are concentrated, thats the “theaters” for this WW, if we know whats good for us.
Col. McGregor has a very valid point about this conflict possible escalating beyond our control. We need to think differently in this era of every other country having nuclear wepons.
I see the media is keeping close tabs on the body count in this conflict, unlike Urkraine. They will insure that Israel will begin to loose the pr war which will inflame tensions in the area and expand the war.
Everyone in Gaza is not responsible for the attack. The innocent people are trapped in this hellhole.
Stolen elections have consequences.
Weird how the media is flocking to Israel, but never flocked to the UKE.
Not that many people can fit on a sound stage.
Here. One must assume that any state or substate that wants the capabiliy to take down our electrical grid has infiltrated enough sleeper agents through our southern border o accomplish that on demand.
CONUS is the main theatre.
Actually, even easier is to disrupt the distribution “grid” for transportation fuels, a network of pipelines from refineries to fuel depots in every major city.
No gasoline/diesel, and everything stops, and cities implode.
I had to do a search on CONUS = Contiguous United States. Yeah, we are being invaded every single day with no one doing or caring anything about it. It’s total insanity. Thanks, DC, for doing absolutely nothing to prevent this.
DC is not only doing absolutely nothing to prevent this but Mayorkis (sp?) is purposely accelerating it as the lying 🤥 POS that he is!
If there are American hostages in the Middle East, there’s a democrat in the White House.
Thank you sundance for having Colonel Macgregor on.
I like Robinson’s FR, but they’ve been infiltrated by anti MacGregor. And anti-Tucker today.
And, Russia will set there and watch this?
the Col’s point is that no – they will NOT just stand by.
the Rooskies can’t do anything
their army has been totally decimated by General Zelensky
TOTALLY !!
now they need 60 billion just to bury all the dead Rooskies they have totally decimated
DECIMATED !!
WTH are you talking about?
😳Must have been hypnotized 👍👌
Victory is defeat
Black ⚫️ is white
Right is wrong
Sweet is sour.
Light is dark
Reference Isaiah chapter 5 verses 18-30
Massive sarcasm. Our army has been weakened by its own leadership and its supplies sent to Ukraine. Plus many of the Israeli supplies. The Hamas supplies and funding appears to be coming from the CCP and the U.S. Tucker, has predicted, Iran will be attacked by the U.S. This will bring in Russia.
The obvious solution is to hit Hamas hard. Leslie recommends we bring the 120th LGBTZXC++ Division forward….Supported on the flank by the 12th twerkers division.
With Leslie taking the point……
i assumed it was /S but who knows
REDACTED appeared to need help
It was.
This does not include the infiltration from our southern border allowed by Biden.
I believe Redacted is doing a Ursula von Der Lying impersonation when she was having her…TATTERS
Meltdown.
So if President Trump wins, he gets dropped into WWW III created by Biden.
A Prelude to War
Clandestine
Oct 23
I took a break from the psyops for the weekend. I sat back and observed from a distance while emotions settled. Here’s what I see:
There is a massive propaganda campaign by Israel and their Western partners, seeking to garner public support for all out war in the Middle East.
The Israeli government are running YouTube ads, Twitter/X ads, CBS roundtables with the Five Eyes Intel leaders, promoting Israel funding during football games. They are advertising war like a company would promote a product or an event. The American People are being targeted via PSYOP.
At first I thought the propaganda was for public and political support to secure funding for Israel like we do to Ukraine, but this appears to be more severe.
Israel appear like they want to drag the US directly into the conflict in the Middle East, because if they invade Gaza, and Hezzbollah gets involved, then Iran gets involved, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt… It’s gonna be a shitshow, thus Israel want the US to fight the conflict for them. Which is why I believe the American People are being so heavily targeted with pro-Israeli war propaganda.
US involvement would significantly benefit the Biden regime as well. More war, more chaos, more opportunities to launder money to their deep state partners, more avenues of revenue for the war machine, immediate whitewash of the massive failure in Ukraine, etc.
If the status quo remains, Trump is going to win 2024. WW3 might be their only option, and they are running out of time.
This appears to be a prelude to war.
A very cogent analysis based in observation of the psy war efforts.
As I have said, both sides have been at it. Which is an interesting thing in and of itself.
Everyone wants the US in another S@$$ show war.
Except maybe Turkey, and Russia.
Watch the moves closely.
Time for the olive branches. I’m all for Isreal, but we don’t need another stupid unwinable war.
Very good points.
I’m starting to be believe we’re being psyoped also by Israel, including on this site.
It truly seems that the Treehouse has been targeted over the last few months. Some are obvious but there are those on the edge who push the conversations into the unthinking or possessed categories.
Just one factual challenge is written word only carries ~10% of the information of spoken face to face communication. Eg:presuming sarcasm is understood, compounded with, people’s desire to believe no one is outright attempting to manipulate, provides opportunity push the focus.
I respect people who respect the people here..
I’m thinking Redacted forgot the SARC.
I HATE it when people THINK its obvious, and so they don’t need it.
LOL!
No, Col. McGregor says that Russia will not sit idly by. But, he doesn’t mention China and China is not going to sit idly by, either.
Maybe McGregor did mention China but it didn’t make the final edit…🤷
200,000,000 from the East.
I agree.
800 lb gorilla no one is talking about.
Did the ‘ brain power ‘ running foreign policy, think giving Iran 6 billion, wouldn’t eventually find it’s way to Hamas ?
Was the goal, to provide weaponry to Hamas, in order to attack Israel ? Was it a lack of foresight, or not ?
Why would Iranian sympathizers, Kerry and Jarrett want to go to war with Iran ? Is this Obama’s Arab winter, following his disastrous Arab spring ?
This is another disaster in the making, if these fools, who indirectly aided Hamas, take us into another war.
War, what is it good for….
Just want to nuance something on the 6 billion point, it comes back a lot.
From what I understand the 6 billion dollars was held by Qatar so Iran never “got” the 6 billion. So if that is true, any notion that Iran used that specific 6 billion to fund Hamas is void too.
Also my understanding is it was Iran’s own money, it was not “given” to them. It was seized / locked up / sanctioned (other people would call it: stealing) “They” agreed to release the money to Iran for reasons and then they reverted on their agreement. Which I suppose doesn’t look good when brokering deals on the world stage — much like the signed by Ukraine Minsk 1 & 2 agreement with Russia that was torn up.
Hi Patriot,
I understand the issue at hand, that the held funds were released, which ultimately benefited Hamas.
OK, qestion, if the funds weren’t released, would Hamas have been able to secure 5000 rockets and more weaponry ?
Would this escalation of war against Israel, occur at this juncture ?
Looking forward to your response, Patriot.
Thank you,
Aspen Patriot Pure Blood MAGA
Obiden promptly reversed every policy of the prior admin, most relevent to this discussion;
PDJT told China if they bought iranian oil, that he would tariff ALL products at 100%, and told every other country the same, and so Iran was nearly broke, Biden stopped that and CHINA buys lots of oil from Iran much more than $6 billion worth, over the ladt 2 1/2 years, and THATS what paid for the missiles.
HAMAS made most of those rockets themselves, using dug-up water pipelines and other means.
Its Irans assets the the US gov froze. Iran released 5 US citizens accused of espionage in exchange for the US Gov releasing the funds, but the US Gov reneged in the deal so Iran never got those funds anyway .
It’s really simple and was already addressed on this site.
Qatar is holding the money in escrow.
Qatar then loans Iran an indeterminate amount out of another account, using the escrow account as collateral.
Understand now?
I think, although I could be wrong, the money was being held in a South Korean Bank
then Joey allowed it to be transferred to a Qatari Bank
at that that point, the Iranians knew they would get the money eventually, no matter what
with the money being held in such a fashion many creditors would view that as an asset
and Iran could bankroll the terror with it’s cash on hand and run it’s government on a promissory note, backed with said asset
🎯
Yeah after his 10%.
A serious question….asking for a friend.
If we were to finance and supply arms and ammunition to another country-let’s say Ukraine so they could fight Russia….
Then it would be fine and dandy for Russia to attack us and any other country that supplied Ukraine with funding and munitions?
Once our warmongers (the West) started throwing around the names of all the other Middle East countries on their wish list of people they wanted to destroy…
Gig was up.
It isn’t about Israel.
It’s all about power and control.
Pretty much.
Second paragraph question. Yes, Russia has every, legal, moral, ethical and survivor’s right to attack everyone that supported Ukraine the way you describe.
They have shown great restraint. Why? Because it would lead to WWIII from that angle as all NATO would engage Russia. Russia will not allow itself to be overrun. They would fire nukes in every direction just as they warned NATO they would previously provoked.
Russia is trying to not look like the aggressor or at fault in that scenario towards the world.
That is the only reason they have not lit us up.
Putin is the sane man of Eurasia.
The insanity that is unstated in those 7 words runs chills up my spine.
Agree, but minor detail; doesn’t have to be nukes.
Hypersonics with conventional explosives could shut down every major “western capital” city, in about 7 minutes.
LOTS of restraint.
Plus the RF has a no first use commitment.
👉See Black Knight reply post 📫 regarding your post 📫 👈
No. Once the funds release was validated, they borrowed from Qatari lenders against the collateral. This technicality of the funds being untouched is childish.
It was more than 6 billion. Iran got 100 billion under the Biden regime
Thats the removing the threat of tariffs, which enabled iran to sell its oil, that i was referring to in my comment above.
“War, what is it good for,…
TRILLION$!
Well, that was sobering as hell.
Reminder: you can still probably buy the potassium iodide pills, but you can also just paint a teaspoon full of iodine on your skin, which will absorb the iodine into your thyroid, in a nuclear fallout situation.
Also, if you see a very bright flash, do NOT go run and look out the window. You may get shredded by flying glass from the blast.
Take shelter for at least five days underneath as much mass as possible post impact, if still alive.
Get out of cities is kind of old news by now . . . but if you haven’t yet, now would be good.
Finally, come to Jesus.
Eternity is forever.
It appears a good portion of the world may meet God a little sooner than anticipated.
Congratulations to the Biden voters and the Neocon warmongers.
You can get potassium iodide at the health food store. I buy the liquid because my brother-in-law ,a chemist at a nuclear lab, said just put a few drops in some orange juice and drink it down. The bottle calls for three drops maybe you’d wanna do six or something like that.
But I took a combination of iodine and iodine together in one dose every day anyway.
Can also take calcium, to similarly try to prevent retention of radioactive strontium.
In the event of imminent nuclear blast;
1) get into a corner of the room, away from windows.
2) remove any sharp objects from your pockets.
3) squat down, placing your head between your knees.
4)when you see the bright flash, …
Kiss your ass goodbye!
Ground zero…best place to be in case of nuke launch.
Surely have little to worry about that way.
Just finished watching; not surprised by anything discussed.
I believe more know what is going on then the evil within can possibly surmise.
Yes, it’s all planned; a long time ago.
It’s not going to be pretty.
The Mossad was either complicit in the initial attack, or criminally negligent. The ONLY discussion that meed to occur: How to clean up The Mossad?
You could ask that same question about our IC having the intel and not warning Israel.
And how do we clean up our own IC.
Exactly 💯
👉Might as well review the ICs of all the “5 Eyes 👀” nations( America 🇺🇸, Canada 🇨🇦, England 🇬🇧, Australia 🇦🇺 and New Zealand 🇳🇿).
Evil 😈
For an organization like that having existed for over a hundred years only mass murder will end it.
What organization are you talking about existing over 100 years?
The nation of Israel itself has only been in existence since 1948;
Hamas only since the 1970s-80s
CIA since 1947 (operational 1952-53.
I think Stu means the Fabian Socialists/ City of London. The ones who set all this up over 100 years ago.
MI6. 1909. Intel Agencies created by financial elite to protect business interests.
Col. Macgregor is always well-worth listening to, but he does at times tend to paint with broad assumptive brush strokes. His concerns about the likelihood that the armies of Turkey and Egypt are going to attack Israel or that the Islamic world – the fabled Umma – is going to become a giant unstoppable force against us are a worst case scenario – a Götterdämmerung hypothesis.
Israel has blasted the hell out of Gaza numerous times. Did Egypt or Turkey go to war with Israel? The United States similarly blasted the Islamic State and did so in quiet cooperation with Iran. Did the Sunni umma unite against us? Did Gulf Arab oil exporters led by Saudi Arabia threaten an oil embargo? No. No. And No.
However, I do think the good Col. was correct to emphasize the risk and consequences attached to armed conflict with Iran, which is not something that should be sought as a goal. But would Russia – a major oil exporter – risk everything to defend Iran knowing that if Biden takes senator Graham’s advice and wrecks Iran’s oil industry that Russia is going to profit hugely?
Macgregor’s concerns about the depleted condition of the SPR also need to be put in context. Yes, the SPR is depleted, but at the same time, the United States has become a major oil exporting country. During the first six months of 2023, the United States exported a record 3.99 million barrels per day of crude oil (https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=60622). If oil exports from the Middle East are disrupted, the U.S. will divert exports back into the domestic market or limit them to treaty allies in Europe and Asia.
That said, surging oil prices would not be good for the global economy or ours, but we already knew that.
Overall, Col. Macgregor presented a set of challenges – possibilities – that our political leadership, top diplomats, and military leaders should take seriously, but not so much so that the possibility of any meaningful Israeli military action against Hamas is foreclosed – unless of course that is what the Biden Administration ultimately wants.
Thanks Pedro for the recap👍👌
👉I conclude much like you do but your presentation is better than I’m capable of typing on such a small screen plus ➕️ you caught some points I originally missed on first viewing👈
Thanks 😊 again for taking the time ⏲️ to view and respond.
At your service.
killing muslims is praised by MB.
the focus on MB is the way to understand ths…
Thanks Pedro.
You’re welcome.
“Israel has blasted the hell out of Gaza numerous times. Did Egypt or Turkey go to war with Israel? ”
I agree with that, but this is the fly in the ointment:
White House ‘blindsided’ by Saudi rapprochement with Iran, Syria
CIA Director William Burns last week told Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (MbS) that officials in Washington were “blindsided” by Riyadh’s rapprochement with Iran and Syria under the auspices of China and Russia, according to the Wall Street Journal (WSJ).
https://new.thecradle.co/articles/white-house-blindsided-by-saudi-rapprochement-with-iran-syria
As the United States didn’t see that coming they probably don’t know the details. If it is the “worst case” scenario its aim might be the expulsion of the United States from the Middle East, just as the French are being expelled from Africa.
And living in a bubble seems to be what the Biden Administration specializes in:
‘The Middle East Region Is Quieter Today Than It Has Been in Two Decades’
Just eight days ago, National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan, speaking at The Atlantic Festival, rattled off a long list of positive developments in the Middle East… The good news crescendoed with this statement: “The Middle East region is quieter today than it has been in two decades.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2023/10/israel-war-middle-east-jake-sullivan/675580/
Thus, predicting what Egypt and Turkey will do is anyone’s guess. After the shameful Afghanistan withdrawal and the debacle in Ukraine, the perception is developing that the United States is not what it once was.
Saudi-Iranian rapprochement is an important development, but what exactly is its importance? We can say for certain that it is not an alliance but an agreement to restore normal relations and to refrain from bashing each other in public. The Iran-backed Houthis have also ceased conducting long-range attacks against Saudi Arabia, which was reportedly a requirement contained in the China-brokered deal.
Smoothing over problems with Iran is mainly about lessening risks to the Kingdom’s external security and improving its attractiveness as a destination for foreign direct investment. Let’s keep in mind that the Saudis were engaged in intensive and sustained three-way negotiations with Israel and the United States over normalizing Saudi-Israeli relations until the recent Hamas attack disrupted the talks.
The Saudis have long been interested in improving relations with Israel but with certain clear preconditions starting with the resolution of the Palestinian problem with a two-state solution. This hardly signifies Saudi hostility toward Israel of any magnitude.
Let’s also remember that the United States has military forces stationed in the Kingdom, that the Royal Saudi Air Force remains dependent on direct U.S. and British support to keep flying, that the Saudi Arabian National Guard also relies on direct U.S. military support to maintain its edge, and that the Saudi facility protection force is similarly under U.S. tutelage. For Saudi leaders, any U.S. failure to protect Israel would make the Kingdom much more likely to develop meaningful bilateral security relations with Russia and/or China.
Concerning Egypt and Turkey, of the two, Turkey is the more volatile country. Erdogan is not shy about castigating Israel when its fails to protect the Islamic holy site in Jerusalem from various outrages or beats up on the Palestinians. However, Turkey and Israel agreed to restore diplomatic relations in August 2022, which was part of Erdogan’s charm offensive to lessen Turkey ‘s regional isolation.
Col. Macgregor mentioned Erdogan’s offer to mediate the conflict and send humanitarian aid, which hardly indicates any Turkish interest in joining an Iranian-instigated armed conflict against Israel. Like Iran, Turkey has clear ambitions to extend its regional sphere of influence, and the Turks and Persians have historically battled for regional hegemony.
As for Egypt, its main interest is preventing an exodus of Palestinian refugees into the Egyptian Sinai and has deployed additional troops along the border with Gaza to guard this interest while pushing for the delivery of humanitarian aid. Egypt’s external security environment also remains challenging due to intractable problems connected to Ethiopia (Nile River), Sudan (civil war), and Libya (civil war and chronic instability).
The Middle East is always full surprises, a lesson that Jake Sullivan has no doubt learned since October 7, but the chief risk of regional conflagration centered on Israel is confined mainly to the Iran-Hezbollah-Hamas-Palestinian Islamic Jihad axis at this time. The possibility of accidental clashes between U.S. and Russian forces in Syria could also trigger unwanted escalation.
Regarding Turkey and Egypt, the difference between then and now is BRICS. Saudi, Egypt, and Turkey will side with BRICS in a conflict and not a declining American empire. If it is in the strategic interest of BRICS to take whatever action against Israel or cut the oil, then they will support the BRICS.
The expansion of BRICS is motivated by strong Chinese and Russian concerns about U.S. unwillingness to respect their vital interests or otherwise accommodate their longstanding interest in establishing reestablishing proximate spheres of influence in historic areas of interest, which includes Ukraine in the case of Russia and Taiwan in the case of China. It also stems from a multitude of interests by aspiring and new members only some of which concern opposition to U.S. and western domination of the global order.
BRICS+ is by no means a united organization, and the more it expands, the less it will be able to forge coherent policy toward the United States.
China and Russia are structurally at odds given that Russia is an oil exporter that wants a higher price per barrel and that China is the world’s largest oil exporter, which naturally wants lower oil prices. For this reason alone, any effort by the BRICS to cut off oil is doomed.
At first glance, the addition of new members Saudi Arabia and the UAE suggests that BRICS+ of that possibility, but Saudi Arabia and China are mutually invested in each other’s refinery sectors and China has significant investments in the UAE’s upstream oil sector.
To put a fine point on it, it is unreasonable to expect that Saudi Arabia and UAE want to screw up these arrangements for the sake of cutting oil exports, which would also cut their foreign exchange earnings. India, a major oil importer, would be angry too.
India is worth mentioning in an additional respect: It is a founding member of BRICS that retains a strong interest in developing cooperative relations with the United States despite its dislike of U.S. globalist pretensions. India values the United States as a counterweight to China and does not support challenging the dominance of the U.S. dollar. India recently rejected Russia’s request to pay for imports of Russian petroleum in Chinese yuan.
To be clear, the BRICS+ members interested in undermining the dollar are already cooperating, and China will continue to pressure Saudi Arabia to denominate its oil exports to the Middle Kingdom in renminbi.
Finally, India values close relations with Israel, ensuring that BRICS+ that cannot adopt any unified anti-Israel policy.
Just to clarify “China is the world’s largest exporter” . Is that correct or did you mean importer?
Yes. Thanks for the catch
The United States is 33 Trillion in Debt on the books and another approximately 100 Trilliion coming due from Social Security and Medicare off the books. BRICS are not undermining the dollar they are moving to protect themselves from the dollar’s demise. We are Venezuela at some point in the near future. Only Trump can pull us out of the “end of the empire” decline.
Good point, though I do think is a complementary motive that supports the strong determination of Russia and China to break U.S. financial power and render the threat of U.S. sanctions useless.
And yet that is precisely how a top rated strategist should think:
Lay out all potential scenarios and possibilities;
Assign probability risks;
Develop strategies and counters for each possibility probability and weigh in potential consequences for each.
Amen.
And i do think macgregor IS accurate, when he says NOBODY in authority is thinking this way.
Certainly the Ukraine fiasco, and the preceeding Afganistam bug out, give us sound reason to expect the same idiots are “at it, again” and NOT thinking as Bk so eleoquently and succinctly describes.
The Biden Administration blundered badly as you noted, but its proxy war against Russia is an outrage in both humanitarian and grand strategic terms because it was unnecessary in the first place given the possibility that kind of accommodation with Russia over its vital security interests in that country could have been negotiated. But like the Bush and Obama administrations, Biden Administration policy toward Russia was warped by an unceasing, blind effort to pull Ukraine out of Russia’s traditional sphere of influence and into the liberal globalist order. Empires that overreach overstretch and that it is where we are in 2023.
However, with Iran, the Biden Administration, like the Obama Administration, is more tolerant of Iran’s sphere of influence and wanted to restore the Obama era nuclear agreement that Trump abandoned. The administration failed in that regard, but nevertheless continued to negotiate with Iran over U.S. citizens held by Iran, hence the recent $6 billion deal.
I think it’s fair to credit the Biden Administration with imposing a basic degree of caution in Tehran over attacking U.S. forces in Iraq and Syria through the judicious use of retaliatory airstrikes against Iranian proxy forces in Syria.
However, the Iranians are poking again, reminding the Biden Administration that Iran has the capability to inflict major damage on U.S. forces in the region. The recent missile and drone attack through the Red Sea demonstrates a regional widening of this practice, though it was not directly aimed at the USS Carney, which at least prevented embarrassment to the United States by performing brilliantly in downing every single drone and cruise missile fired at Israel.
Of course, we are now in a major crisis, and there is much that can go wrong, which I have explained in some detail in this thread.
“the United States exported a record 3.99 million barrels per day of crude oil”
So that’s where the strategic oil reserve went.
Yes, that data includes some SPR oil, but not all SPR crude was exported. Much of it was consumed domestically. Of the 180 million barrels offered for sale, about 39 million barrels went to China.
The U.S. Department of Energy said it sold SPR crude to the highest bidders, which is why Sinopec was able to obtain all those barrels.
But as you might imagine, this controversial sale prompted the introduction of legislation in both chambers of the U.S. Congress to ban exports of SPR crude to China.
I largely agree. However, to me it’s about the body count. It could easily reach to 50,000 dead Palestinians most of whom would not be Hamas. All bet are off it gets to this level.
The fundamental fact of the matter is that the vast majority of the Israeli people want Hamas dead.
The Middle East Forum recently published the results of a poll on Israeli public opinion concerning what the objective of Israeli military action against Hamas should be. Here’s what MEF discovered:
When asked the question “what should Israel’s primary objective” be in the forthcoming war, 70 percent of respondents answered “eliminate Hamas.” In contrast, 15 percent answered “secure the unconditional release of captives held by Hamas” and 13 percent answered “disarm Hamas completely.” Revealingly, 54 percent of those who said they voted for the Arab party in the last election also favored eliminating Hamas.
Get this: 68 percent voiced support for the ground offensive, while 25 percent supported “alternative” means.
https://www.meforum.org/65067/mef-poll-finds-israelis-massively-support
In a pure democratic sense, this is a huge problem for the Biden Administration insofar as it may be secretly and indirectly trying to halt the Israeli ground offensive by pestering Israel with constant questions about its tactics and what comes after Hamas is destroyed, pressuring Israeli leaders to give hostage negotiations one more chance, and demanding further delays because the U.S. military needs more time to deploy more military forces, and so on.
At a minimum, the administration is clearly trying to shape the offensive in ways that ensure some basic level of humanitarian safeguards and Israeli obedience to the laws of war. And Israeli leaders have acknowledged their willingness to support both imperatives. But at the same time, it has been confirmed that IDF has already started conducting limited ground incursions into Gaza – basically reconnaissance in force raids among other things – to prepare the way for larger attacks.
Even if Biden doesn’t know it, his top advisers understand that any direct request to further delay or even halt ground attacks is likely to rebuffed. There is even a chance that Israeli leaders might play along, only to give Hamas the impression that Israel is paralyzed, thus setting up Hamas for a surprise attack in condign repayment for the October 7 outrage.
I have little doubt that the larger attack is coming given the weight of Israeli public opinion and the determination of Israeli leaders to redeem their tarnished public reputations following the debacle of October 7.
As for the likely huge numbers of casualties, keep in mind that the United States has slaughtered many more Arabs than the hypothesized 50,000, and not one Arab government has fallen or gone to war against the United States, with the obvious exception of the Saddam Hussein regime in Iraq.
Aside from Jordan, the level of popular Arab concern for the plight of the Palestinians is far less than advertised, and its been this way for decades, except for Jordan, which hosts a very large Palestinian expatriate community and must at least validate this community’s very real anger while preventing it from spilling over in ways that could invite Israeli military action or destabilize the government.
Overall, the bigger risk of unwanted escalation comes from Iran and and its proxy network, which have certainly poked at U.S. forces in the region for two decades. After a several months break, Iran has resumed this practice while allowing Hezbollah to harass Israel. But Iran must now find some way of keeping the pressure on while avoiding the triggering of any serious U.S. or Israeli military retaliation against it.
3.99 million barrels a day? Does that include the oil from the strategic reserve slojo sold to chyna?
That figure is for the first six months of 2023, so it is possible that some portion of those of 39 million barrels, which were awarded in 2022, are included.
Macgregor echoes Abdullah’s sentiments against collective punishment. Outside of North Korea, it’s a widespread sentiment indeed. But what he was short on was a realistic option for dealing with people who inextricably entwine themselves with the civilian populace precisely to ensure such punishment, and thus hopefully to neuter any impactful response to any action of Hamas, no matter how barbarous they become (and they’ve set the bar pretty high for outdoing themselves in that regard). When civilians are murdered in their homes – men, women, children, babies – and taken hostage to be tortured, used as shields, and disposed of as needed, then any non-martial response is wholly inadequate as a deterrent against future aggression. On this point, Macgregor is a bit of a fool. Sometimes, the punishment, if the enemy is to get the message, must meet the level of the provocation.
If anyone can convincingly present a scenario where Iran, armed with missiles, and Hamas and Hezbollah, supplied by Iran, will not eventually use that against Israel and/or the United States, no matter how much restraint we exercise going forward, I would like to read it. Provoked or unprovoked, Iran is not pursuing a missile and nuclear buildup for defensive purposes, no matter how much we “play nice” and delude ourselves into so thinking by throwing billions at them and rushing to buy their oil. Hamas and Hezbollah will not suddenly convert to regional versions of the rotary club, no matter how feverishly we clutch the pearls over fears of escalation. Again, Macgregor is being foolish.
If we ever get to the point where, because of fears like those presented here, fears of regional war, we tie Israel’s hands, let alone our own, then the only winners will be those intent on the destruction of Israel and the United States. And no amount of “restraint” on our part, when that time comes, will buy us a reprieve. If regional war comes, it will not likely be because those being provoked through atrocity have called for it. That is very much like blaming the victim. It will be because the level of the provocation is so great, that an impactful response was set in motion from the start as an inevitability.
We can argue all day about who knew what and which strings are being pulled by the international puppeteers – again, because evil never sleeps and they revel in death. But no nation can allow itself to be subjected to the brutality the Jewish state has just endured without a telling response, not if it wishes to survive as a nation. The U.S. would not allow it, and it’s laughable to expect Israel, surrounded by forces bent on its extinction, of all nations, to do so.
Exactly 💯 Jonrilus.
👉You’re post 📫 last paragraph being the exclamation (!) point 👈
How is it that all knowledge and memory of President Trump’s brilliant use of economic policy and very selective executions (Solomeini and Al-Baghdadi) have vanished from everybody’s memory?
And somehow the only tool in the tool box is brute force?
You want to stop Hamas? Drop a few Ninjas on the cars of the leaders in Doha. Seize their accounts in the Caymans, Geneva, Doha, and elsewhere.
Find out whether they have handlers in Israel who don’t put the Israeli people first and are still funding elements of Hamas on the QT. How about that?
How did MBS get rid of the DS in Saudi? Nice and clean, done in 2 weeks. Had Blackwater hang Al-Waleed by his feet and walked away with 40 percent ownership of Twitter – plus many more unknown assets.
There’s more than one way to skin a cat. But somehow people’s heads are only filled with visions of kilotons of bombs being hurled.
You have to wonder whether VSGPDJT just looks at these discussions and shakes his head in disbelief at the fact that we learned NOTHING from his tenure.
alex,
spot on, exactly my thinking.
The U.S. cut off the head of the Iranian snake because of what he was planning and his history for pulling it off. Realistically, do you imagine that would have been Trump’s only response had the IRG invaded the U.S., after a hailstorm of missile fire, committed atrocities, and kidnapped Americans, including babies? Once again, from the comfort of our shores across the ocean we fail to perceive the level of national violation that is in play here. As I said, sometimes the response must meet the level of the violation. Trump destroyed the caliphate over much less than the Israelis have just endured. Context really is necessary here.
And get Lindsey out of the equation. Just as with the abortion debate, he will always trivialize any matter through his predictable bombast.
“no amount of “restraint” on our part, when that time comes, will buy us a reprieve.”
The US has no restraint and is showing not one iota of diplomacy or restraint. We would not have 2 carrier strike forces, an amphibious ready force, 100 planes, 2000 special operations forces, many soldiers in the US placed on standby – if we were showing ANY restraint at all. We are showing no restraint in ordering Israel around. We are showing no restraint in sending in our special forces to try to figure out how to get the hostages out and as a result, a bunch of US soldiers were killed for their lack of restraint.
The Biden administration is going gung ho into war. They are dreaming of the money to be made and sure that they (as elites) will be protected at the cost of others’ lives.
Gung ho for war with a military that is 70% obese or overweight. With so many soldiers who have to be given waivers because they can’t pass physical qualification tests. With the number of females, transgenders, gays, and vaccinated troops. One quarter of Americans of military age do not qualify for the military because of mental illness, drug use, or physical condition. We have a country of social media warriors who don’t have any idea what war is and aren’t at all willing to fight for our country.
Millions of soldiers allowed across our southern border. Those soldiers deployed all over USA in the middle of the night. Oil drilling stopped. Oil reserves drained.
We are going to see what happened in Israel happen here, on a much bigger scale.
I guess they think with roving bands of murders, no water food or electricity, stinking Bodies piling up we will beg for martial law . Exchange food for your guns type thing.
Don’t underestimate evil patriots.
Evil patriots are not Patriots.
i assume there was a comma intended. syntax is important. 😉
Treepers speak typo.
So is the capitalization of the first word in a sentence.
i see 👀 what you did there😉( I )
its another subtle sign that i am MI6. 😉
Done on a phone… apologies.
furthermore, in the absence of us coming to our senses, they WILL send our children to this slaughter for their reset.
Exactly!
Afghanistan was a major cluster—–!
We have been using the most corrupt country as a proxy for the last year ..sending money and munitions.
Ukraine is a cluster—-!
And now the warmongers are saying…..
Let’s start another War!
Our Government is being run by juveniles and psychopaths.
When you remember that those most energetically implementing the open borders scheme tend to live behind high, guarded walls, then it is clear that chaos, and not some vast humanitarian impulse, was always the goal.
Sorry Col. but draining the strategic reserve was a deliberate treasonous act of war against the USA – not a “mistake”.
I believe he was being generous.
He does have a droll sense of humor.
So McGreagor very much wants Israel to not invade Gaza, in effect saying Israel should just suck-it-up about having its citizens slaughtered? That’s what it sounded like to me.
And he claims that if Israel invades Gaza, they would kill hundreds of Gazians? This is absurd.
the propaganda and gaslighting is working, apparently. because thats not what he is saying.
Actually, he said an Israeli ground invasion of Gaza would kill hundreds of thousands (which is what I meant to type) of Gazians. Which is hyper-absurd.
I heard him say no such thing.
Straw man argument.
Logic 101.
I would try to help you out but I’m not an otolaryngologist.
IMO Israel should kill them all. Every last one of them Bridget Gabrel said ALL palestinians support Hamas
Where will the go to if allowed to scoot free? Blinken said Israel has to have a plan for them after the war.
NO-ONE in the Arab world wants them.
NO-ONE
I quote:
Arab Leaders’ Secret Condemnation of the Palestinians
excerpt:
Over the course of these negotiations, I had many dinners and meetings with officials and citizens of Saudi Arabia and Bahrain. In their private, off the record statements, I was surprised by their utter disdain for the Palestinians. Saudis repeatedly told me that, in the Arab world, there is a pecking order. The Palestinians, they said, sat at the lowest possible rung of respectability.
Saudi officials carefully explained that they regarded the Palestinians as “shiftless, lazy and untrustworthy” and “the lowest of the low.” All said they would never do business with them.
Their candor was especially surprising because they knew I was Jewish.
https://www.algemeiner.com/2023/10/22/arab-leaders-secret-condemnation-of-the-palestinians/
I get the frustration, but USA or Israel should not condone genocide.
UN (I know) is reporting 5000 dead Gazans. Fog of war and all, who knows what the real number is. But, Israel has been bombing and civilians are being killed. The numbers will climb.
Sorry, I can’t buy the narative presented by some, that the citizens of Gaza are guilty if they don’t overthrow the terrorist Hamas.
Arab Leaders’ Secret Condemnation of the Palestinians
excerpt:
Over the course of these negotiations, I had many dinners and meetings with officials and citizens of Saudi Arabia and Bahrain. In their private, off the record statements, I was surprised by their utter disdain for the Palestinians. Saudis repeatedly told me that, in the Arab world, there is a pecking order. The Palestinians, they said, sat at the lowest possible rung of respectability.
Saudi officials carefully explained that they regarded the Palestinians as “shiftless, lazy and untrustworthy” and “the lowest of the low.” All said they would never do business with them.
Their candor was especially surprising because they knew I was Jewish.
https://www.algemeiner.com/2023/10/22/arab-leaders-secret-condemnation-of-the-palestinians/
Instead of the Palestinian territories, Gulf wealth funds eagerly invest in Western enterprises like Space X, Uber, Live Nation and many others.
Yes, Saudi Arabia and the UAE have contributed aid to the Palestinians. But interestingly, 77% of these donor funds come from non-Arab sources, according to the non-profit group the Arab Center. The E.U. and the U.S. alone contribute 33% of the funds, double the contributions made by Saudi Arabia and the UAE.
The one exception is Qatar, which has been a major financial supporter of Hamas and other radical Islamic causes. Qatar is also close to Iran, the chief sponsor of both Hamas and Hezbollah.
There is only one reason the Gulf states do not speak publicly about their views of the Palestinians. As Ronni Shaked of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem’s Truman Institute recently told the Jewish News Syndicate, many moderate Arab leaders are still afraid of their citizenry.
And, as my first year contracts professor would say – “So what?”
How is this relevant to thinking through those things that Col. Macgregor just said we should think through?
“The greatest evil is not now done in those sordid “dens of crime” that Dickens loved to paint. It is not done even in concentration camps and labour camps. In those we see its final result. But it is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice.”
C. S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters
🤔 A description of the Uniparty and their allies, evil 😈 globalists.
😉Good quote from Clive Staples Lewis 👌👍
I went shopping tonight for basic food items, almost every item I bought was higher than last week, with some items being up 60% in a week. Biden is going to wreck this nation, nobody will be able to buy their own food.
Yes and all the packaging for the items is smaller.
“Shrinkflation”.
I’ve noticed it over decades with ice cream. Anyone remember it coming in 1/2 gallon size? It’s now 1.5qts and way overpriced.
Great quote from a great book (read).
2 Thessalonians 2:11
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.
I have no other explanation for Americas current administration.
Honestly, I have not been overly impressed with Col. Macgregor’s past prognostications. I think I’ll take a pass on these ones too.
He does have his moments, but about one and a half years ago, he was saying Russia would win the war in Ukraine in a few months.
I beleive the war is still going on.
I think Russia is winning. We sure aren’t.
With all due respect, what prognostications do you refer? He has been spot on concerning Russia/Ukraine.
About one and a half years ago, he was saying Russia would win the war in Ukraine in a few months. And he kept saying it for quite some time.
I believe the war is still going on.
Because Russia is showing far more restraint than their capabilities require of them.
But you keep nibbling incessantly at that one single crumb forever.
That alone cannot possibly explain this degree of persistent animosity.
I have no animosity for McGreagor.
I’ve been a big fan of his since likely before you ever even heard of him – since back at least as far as 2010 (first heard about him likely from Diana West).
But that doesn’t mean I genuflect at everything he says.
Yet you are consistently insisting that your single data point is grounds to reject his points of view.
I will ignore the strawman and appeal to authority.
A little more than a month after the conflict….
Ukraine was at the negotiations table.
Initials on the agreement. Then the spokesperson for “the West ” Boris Johnson arrived in Ukraine……end of negotiations and agreement.
Since then Russia has been fighting Ukraine, NATO and the EU.
So basically…the Colonel was pretty much on the money.
President Trump offered to step in, and negotiate. Boris Johnson, like Tony Blair, is a warmonger with blood on his hands.
Boris Johnson and Victoris Nuland, wanted war with Russia, with an end goal of regime change and Putin’s removal.
Even after the agreement fell through, he was still saying just a few months till Russia won the war. Its now been over a year and a half.
It is a war of attrition.
The objectives were stated by Russia at the beginning of the SMO.
One was….
De-militarization of Ukraine.
Seems that Russia has been successful at doing that….and putting quite a dent in NATO,EU and our military stockpiles.
💁🤷♀️ Ukraine lost last year. They just refuse to admit it.
Russia has been at War with NATO, EU and US.
Now McGreagar claims that Israel is planning collective punishment for Gaza.
And don’t anyone say that’s not what he said.
He was saying that if Isreal kills 200,000 civilians pursuing 5,000 terrorists, then under the Geneva Conventions that will meet the definition of”collective punishment ” and will be recognized as a war crime prohibited under any number of treaties.
I don’t know whether Israel is a signatory to the Geneva Conventions. But the US is. Therefore the US is barred by treaty from participating in a collective punishment action.
Today’s lesson in International Law 101.
You are welcome.
And yeah, I got top marks in the course, despite the visiting prof from Harvard being a boring ,@#$hole.
Memory is a little hazy, but the foundations are still there.
Israel is not going to kill 200,000 civilians.
I don’t know if even the Squad is slandering Israel that bad.
When has the Geneva Convention, Nuremberg trials, or treaty of most any kind ever been followed or enforced?
Colonel MacGregor is not the only one using the term collective punishment.
I have been hearing it quite a lot lately…..
Because it is a legal term, with defined consequences.
Just like the term “Genocide ” is a legal term in international law, with consequences – which is why our State Department has, in the past, declined to identify certain actual genocides as “Genocide. ” Because if we admitted it was Genocide, we would have been obligated to take certain actions as a result.
So much for American commitment to “never again. ”
That went by the boards with Albright’s failure to invoke Genocide in Rwanda.
In any event, saying a nation engaged in Collective Punishment is like saying a man engaged in Reckless Homicide but not First Degree Murder.
There’s a legal definition in play.
In this case, treaty obligations are in play.
Whether an action meets the definition of Collective Punishment may mean life or death to the troops involved.
I believe that if a US battalion, for example, engaged in Collective Punishment, they could all be sentenced to death and hung. Legally.
And that would be the correct result. IMHO.
Besides Saddam, who in recent history has been hung for their crimes? How many treasonous traitorous bastards do we have running around the US making decisions for millions of people that should be on the gallows?
What is on paper isn’t reality.
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The Ukraine War model seems to be one the global community accepts. That calls for ~300+ deaths per day. I think that model can churn forever and a day and the Kyiv nightclubs will keep their lights on.
Israel can do that.
What is important is to get as many of the hostages back as soon as possible, in as best shape as possible. Then you drop the hammer.
… Never forgive, Never forget…
For context, global opinion has an IQ in the high ’80s. It won’t take much for them to sit on the fence.
Hmm. Iran put Hamas up to unleashing the terror attack, taking hostages, and hunkering down with them in Gaza. If Israel retaliates significantly, it will rouse up the Islamic world. If it doesn’t and leaves Hamas in place, Israel invites more attacks. If Hezbollah invades Israel from the north, Americans like Lindsey Graham will have us attacking Iran. Oil flow stops. World and US economies crash. Terrorists run amok inside America. The US bankrupts itself stacking war upon war. Iran’s theocrats would tolerate destruction of their own country so long as they destroy Israel and the US destroys itself.
Maybe all that and more happens, maybe not. But it does seem like Iran’s strategy. Why now? Joe Biden.
An article I read today said that 70% of our military are either overweight or obese.
https://thenationalpulse.com/2023/10/21/nearly-70-of-american-soldiers-are-obese-or-overweight
The other 30% don’t know what sex they are.
Hamas gunman brags to family about ‘killing 10 Jews’ in audio of phone call found by Israeli officials as they reveal new clips of slaughter including terrorist using a grenade to kill a father in front of his two sons
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12661911/Israel-release-unedited-bodycam-footage-Hamas-murders-prove-magnitude-atrocities-committed-claims-beheaded-babies-sparked-Holocaust-denial-like-phenomenon.html
As I predicted, see above.
Sounds like “Atrocity Propaganda”.
Macgregor’s dire forecasts rest on the premise that destroying Hamas requires a grand, sustained ground incursion, resulting in massive civilian Palestinian deaths.
Thereby triggering an incalcuably widespread conflagration that could predictably lead to Israel’s demise (among other catastrophes.)
What if the Israelis are as capable war gamers as the colonel, and as averse to their national suicide as he is, but see an alternative; namely, a massive seige?
A way to largely separate the Hamas fighters from the civilian population?
Hamas is already heavily sequestered underground. Can they be kept there from an operational perspective, cut off from their supply lines?
Is the widespread talk of an incursion a feint?
The massing of IDF forces actually meant to seal off supplies to the tunnel network…
And engage only where they pop up, rather than in large scale above-ground urban combat?
There are hints.
Do we really think those tunnels don’t connect to Israel?
Chew on that just a bit.
Lay Armageddon at the feet of congress Bush’s Clinton’s Obama’s Biden’s the devil worshipers.
I can show them all a Book that tells the future, better than an AI algorithm prediction. I guess when you worship the little want to be god, you dream of annihilation and life in a fiery pit full of demons.
Hello friends,
Yes I am Israeli and know the area quite well. This interview was amazing me, and not in a good way. I will explain.
To begin, I don’t know why a “Colonel” is taken as an expert on strategic and international level. I am not sure what a Colonel in the US means but in Israel it is mainly a field level over one or a few Brigades. Not an overall level of a high command and planing.
While this Colonel said a few correct things and mainly a list of worst case scenarios which have a very small chance of happening, there are many wrong and misleading concepts.
I will have to rewind and list some of the main few.
1. The repetition of “Israel intending on collective punishment and hundreds of thousands dead Palestinians”. Is false!
If we wanted a collective punishment as a goal we wouldn’t have given them so many warnings and safe passages to safety.
I can assure you that none of our enemies ever did or would have given our civilians any way of escape in any war.
The planned battle areas have already been mostly evacuated. Hundreds of thousands of killed people? Not even close.
2. The repetition on how “great the Turkish are for pushing to negotiate with Hamas and Israel”. Is false!
Ardoan (the Turkish) is a radical Islamist leader who have been supporting Hamas for many years and hosting them in Turkey and has been vilifying Israel for years in terms that are similar to what you hear from the most radical Islamists.
He is also nothing but trying to save Hamas from the punishment that is approaching them.
Turkey at the moment is the most hostile nation towards Israel with 24/4 anti Israel propaganda on their TV. There is zero mention of the horrors that we experienced in a holly day. Only jews killing Gazans. That is all they broadcast. So talking about Ardoan in terms of the “only rational adult in the area”. Is false if not stupid. And by the way Turkey is very far from Israel. It easy to wipe moving forces out if they mobilize from such a distance.
3. The ideas that “Israel is trying to expel Gazans to Egypt and the Egyptians could attack Israel”. Is false. Manly the second part.
It is well known that Egypt would not accept the Gazans. They have been sending soldiers and erected concrete barricades to protect their border with Gaza. They hate the Muslim Brotherhood and they know that Hamas is basically an arm of the Muslim Brotherhood.
Could there be a scenario that they decide to attack Israel? Yes. Probability? 0.1%.
4. The idea that “Russia will fight the West to protect Iran”. This is also showing me a lack of understanding.
Russia has became closer to Iran since they gave them drones etc… But Russia right now is a mess. They lost some insane number of soldiers. They are weak economically and they currency had crushed. The Russians are barely willing to fight by their borders and many have fled the calls to enlist.
After all of that they will try to get into a World war against the joint forces of the West? I don’t think so. Is it possible? Yes. Chances? Maybe 1%.
Will they get involved against Israel ? I doubt it. Their small force in Syria can be wiped out in an hour. Do they have the capability to mobilize large forces to the Middle East? Not really. They barely cope with logistic efforts in Ukraine.
Also remember that Putin is not hostile towards Israel historically. He is kind of a double faced. He visited Israel many times and actually has some liking to us. He also knows that any attempt to interfere against Israel will cause Israel to provide Ukraine with Iron Dome and advanced anti drone systems and some of the best anti tank missiles. He doesn’t want this.
5. A huge over estimation of Iran. I mentioned it before and I will repeat. Iran fought Iraq for decades. A bitter war with no winners.
The US crushed Iraq in a week. So there is a glaring over estimation of Iran.
6. Hamas and Hezbollah potential terror inside the US and from Mexico. Yes there is a potential but what are you going to do? Withdraw from doing what is right because of fear? There could be a lone terror attack. Not a 9/11. A 9/11 type will be a suicide to whoever initiates it.
7. The statement that Israeli Special forces along with Americans got wiped out in Gaza is not accurate. First of all I would like to see that there was any American in there. It doesn’t sound right. What happened is the force got an anti tank missile and had one man killed and a couple injured lightly.
We don’t know how many are still in there and what they are doing. But “wiped out” is not the best description.
To end it all and I said it before. The only situation of a World War is if Russia makes the mistake of colliding with the West directly.
I think that Putin is wiser than doing it.
Yes it is good for Israel if the US take out the nuclear reactors in Iran. That would lead into a massive missile attack on Israel as a revenge.
But most Israelis would rather take a hit from missiles than an Iranian nuclear bomb.
No Israeli is not expecting a US intervention unless we are getting wiped out and we desperately need help. But at such point it would be either a nuke or an American help. Israel will never take another Holocaust. Our history has taught us that no one will fight to save us.
As Golda Meir said:”We have a secret weapon. We have nowhere else to go”.
Now, I am not a very religious person and maybe this is all the final Biblical War of Gog and Magog where the whole world and North nation (Russia) and even the US are all charging on Israel and then God shows up and takes care of things and you get the appearance of the Messiah and end times prophesies.
I wouldn’t argue with anyone about this. I guess we shell see.
Nothing but Respect to my American friends.
David
“To begin, I don’t know why a “Colonel” is taken as an expert on strategic and international level. I am not sure what a Colonel in the US means but in Israel it is mainly a field level over one or a few Brigades. Not an overall level of a high command and planing.”
Retired West Point graduate Col. Douglas Macgregor is a military historian and the author of, “Breaking the Phalanx”. An Army NTC official called Macgregor “the best war fighter the Army has got”, but he was passed over for General as the U.S. Army now prefers Generals who are good at PC and bureaucratic subservience to ones who can think innovativley on the battlefield.
That, of course, doesn’t mean everything he says should be taken as gospel.
Well, Ok. I said that I don’t know why he is taken as an expert and you answered me.
Regardless of his status his evaluation shows ignorance of the dynamics in the Middle East.
David: Personally, I would like to know what IDF Maj. Gen. (ret.) Gershon HaCohen has to say. His military, historical and religious (Biblical) knowledge of the Middle East in general, and Israel, in particular, is vast. I miss his commentary in BESA Perspectives, the discontinued publication of the Began-Sedat Center at Bar-Ilan University.
He predicted the whole thing in a detailed article a couple years ago. He is saying that this event is of the same if not greater importance than the War of Independence because it will decide if Israel will be a nation or a beaten ghetto.
He is saying that they went into our safe belly and beat us with commando and destabilized and caused fear and lack of safety and we should do the same to them. That is, air attacks don’t achieve it as over they years they prepared for air attacks and are organized for it. He said it should be a very long was and showily “hunters” should hunt them down wherever they are and make them feel that we are breaking their safe zones and nowhere is safe. It will be slow even like the Ukraine war.
He said that unfortunately the hostage situation can’t interfere with startegic strategic operations.
He gave the example of Churchill who had the British break the Nazi encryption code and had knowledge of approaching attack on a city and decided to not act on it so that the Nazis will not know that they now have their secret encryption code of all their communications.
He said that modern war is determined forces who sometimes have primitive weapons, like Ukraine who barely have any air-force. He suggests that the IDF should operate with commando and spies and less dependent on technology. You directed me to this man which I never knew aside for a few times I saw him on TV. Thanks. The man is an asset. I will follow up on him.
By the way I think he was involved physically in the combat in the south. There was a question about it and he insisted to be humble and not talk about himself.
https://fathomjournal.org/separation-is-not-the-answer-gershon-hacohen-on-israels-security/
FYI, I agree with much more of what you have said than what he said with Tucker above. In fact, I think he mostly went off the rails in this interview.
You are right. I have no doubt.
David…
You are wrong about Russia and all your statements regarding it.
Totally wrong. Regarding both the conflict and the economy.
I have been closely following the Russian-Ukraine conflict since it began..and not listening to the lies which our corrupt politicians and media have been saying.
Everything is the opposite of what you stated.
Stay safe.
Prayers
I’m sorry but I’m taking exception to several assertions you make here and have made:
1. Previously you stated that no US troops were in Israel the first time I commented there were. Then we find out that Delta is there with support elements. Then you backtracked and said there were some special forces there (as I had already asserted) when that was revealed. Now we know THAAD and Patriot batteries are somewhere over there also to assist with missile defense.
In addition, MacGregor did not say the American & Israeli spec op units got “wiped out.” He said they got “shot up” meaning taking more fire than anticipated and having some casualties. Black ops units usually get in by surprise, do the shooting up and get the hell out. That is a total mischaracterization of what he said.
2. Col MacGregor is only a colonel and not a general because of politics. He was the mastermind and front line leader of the 73 Easting tank battle of Iraq I, considered by some to be the greatest tank battle since WWII and one of the greatest ever. He differed on doctrine subsequently and was blackballed, yet called out of retirement to advise on Iraq II invasion. Very few are smarter than him. Further, full colonels command regiments or are executive officers to 1 brigade unless staff officers, not multiple brigades. 1 brigade is commanded by a brigadier general.
3.Russia has lost a fraction of what Ukraine has lost and haven’t even employed their reserves yet. That claim is patently false. Their economy is doing just fine with the increased oil sales and their military conventional munitions production capacity is greater than all of the West combined at present. Their currency seems to be doing fine, and has been posted on this site in detail and with images, pricing is stable on consumer items there; and they have been accumulating gold to back the BRICS initiative that they are a leader in promoting and implementing. That has been covered here thoroughly.
Additionally, Russia being involved supporting Iran does not necessarily mean ground troops. It could mean Air Force bombings or hypersonic missile attacks that have been quite effective in Ukraine. So that is a deflection.
Further, do you really think that Russia would stand by and let anyone ‘wipe out’ their force in Syria. Air raids against virtually non-existent air forces of other countries and against inferior pilots is a lot different than taking on another Tier 1 military with more aircraft with top rate pilots themselves and quite frankly, sounds very arrogant and dismissive of a superpower’s capabilities.
Russia has been very patient with the West so far, but don’t underestimate Putin.
4. While I have no idea of what Israel’s intentions are or are not, nor that of Turkey’s, it’s a bit presumptuous to assert you can wipe out formations moving from Turkey through Syria while fighting a 2 front war and a country with a 2,000,000 man army and an Air Force a little more advanced than Syria or the nonexistent one of Lebanon.
5. And the US hitting Iran, instead of you guys would certainly lead to WWIII as Russia may not be the only one to get involved. China gets a LOT of oil from Iran. They might not like that too much.
6. And no one is talking about China, another BRICS participant, that has 2 naval squadrons in the area, a base in Djibouti, a container port in Jeddah, SA; AND, operations rights to the port in Haifa. Tell us about that. What’s that all about?
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OK. First of all I am not sure that I understand who am I talking with here? Would be nice if you told me.
Are you on Hamas’s side? Are you on the Russian side against the West? Do you just hate jews or Israelis?
or maybe you are just motivated on “America First” and would just want to see the US deal with it’s own affairs and stay away from all the power games in the world. Seriously. I am just curious. Now to your points:
1. It may be my English which is my second language but I can clarify. When I said “no American troops” I was referring to the fact that the US never sent troops to fight Israel’s wars: 1948, 1950s, 1967, 1973, Lebanon wars, Wars in Gaza. I was calming down anyone who thinks it’s going to happen now. Yes, the US had ships in the area, probably helped with intelligence and when we were helpless against the Skad Missiles from Iraq over our central cities which my family had to experience the US tried to help with Patriot Missiles to intercept the incoming attacks. But boots on the ground? NO!
As to US Special Forces on the ground now in Israel? I don’t have any evidence and if you do then show me.
I just read that there are Special Forces in Cyprus ( a close Island). For sure they are on the American Carriers.
But inside Israel? Show me. In fact this kind of Intelligence Op in Gaza requires people who look like Arabs and speak the language and Israel have many. And let me go over the “wipe out”Vs your “Shot up” you said.
He said “Shot to pieces”. I rewinded it. While I am not American I do know that the concept of “Shot to pieces” is the same as “wipe out”. And “Shot up” that you say is another concept. So Again a false accusation.
2. My apology if I insulted your Colonel. Frankly I have never seen him. I don’t know anything about him. If he is a war hero he have my respect. My own father was a Colonel until the 70s and fought 5 wars including against the Nazies in WW2. His position at the pick was similar to a General and he was not promoted because he was in the wrong political side. He was more of a right wing than a liberal. But years later Colonels became common and there are so many of them and they only command a couple of brigades or one and are not at a strategic level to know anything about global forces and politics. I specifically said that “I don’t know what a Colonel means in the US”.
3. I am not following the Russian Ukraine war very closely. I talked with Russians and they complain about the economy. I do recall clearly articles about the crush of the Ruble. Maybe it is better now but a quick look shows still not recovered and I will post it here. I did read the numbers of dead Russians and it looks bad and I know first hand that many left to avoid being recruited to the War effort. But come on! You don’t need to be a war expert to see that they failed royalty. They thought it will be a walk in the park and are still not able to win this war.
But I said I am not an expert on this war but I am VERY familiar of the Israeli Russian relationship over the years and Putin’s attitude to Israel over the years. He visited Israel many times. He even bought a house to his Jewish teacher from school, a house in Tel Aviv. He doesn’t consider Israel an enemy and doesn’t consider Palestinians his friends. Israel have close military coordination with the Russians in Syria so as not to collide. Russia didn’t supply Iran with the SAM 4 batteries surface to air missiles and Israel didn’t supply Ukraine with the Iron Dome nor the means to neutralize the Iranian drones. So there is a balance.
The Russians don’t have a very high regard to Islamic Iranians just like the Iranians have a low regard to the Sunni Muslims of Gaza. So Iran will not fight for Gaza and Putin will not fight for Iran.
Israel will do everting to avoid a collision with Russia. I also know that Putin appreciates the IDF and Mossad and is not intending on fighting Israel. Russia can help Iran with weaponry but will not get into a World War for Iran.
You may disagree and we will see. None of us have a crystal ball. I am just talking about probabilities.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/russian-ruble-at-weakest-level-since-early-days-of-ukraine-war-eaef275f
4. Presumptions? I don’t know if you are familiar with the Israeli Air Force. I happen to have served there for 3 years. We have a lot of mutual drills with the US. The Israeli pilots regularly win in war games against the US. In 1970 the USSR made the mistake of confronting the IAF (Israel Air Force) and lost 5 MiGs in minutes. The whole nation of Israel is geared to have the best of its population to be pilots. Israeli pilots hold the records of modern war in shooting down enemy jets. Lines of military who are trying to cross almost a 1000 miles from Turkey to Israel are easy targets if it gets to it. getting their millions of soldiers across 1200 Kilometers is not something that they will succeed. Now war is crazy and there can be a situation that our Air bases are neutralized. But it’s a very low chance and there are drills of what to do in such cases.
But most importantly for Turkey to decide to fight Israel they will go against the US and NATO. Why would they want to do that? Again we had many wars. Many were deployed against us. Syrians, Egyptians, Yemens, Jordanians, Palestinians, Iraqis, Lebanon, Saudis and USSR deployed even Cubans.
WE never had Turkey send soldiers as far as I know. Not in my lifetime and I am almost 60.
The chances they will change is not very likely.
5. “Certainly will lead to a WW3”. It’s your opinion and I disagree. I said it before and I will repeat. Russia is the only risk and I explained my point on it. China will decide to go to a WW3 because of Iran?
Are they willing to crush their economy for Iran? They have 1.5 billion people to feed. They need the US more than the US need them. I mean everything can happen. But it is very unlikely.
6. I don’t know anything about China and Haifa. Israel has trade with China like you do. They have some assets in Israel like they have in the US. The US asked Israel to not let them have too much assets in Israel and Israel agreed.
Some things are already done before the US asked. But did you know that China also have 380,000 in the US and various places and have many students in US universities? So what does it mean? They are a giant all over the world.
Clarification on point 6. “They have 380,000 acres in the US”.
1. I’m all in for Israel. Can’t stand Hamas. But I don’t like being fed BS when I know it’s BS!!!
2. You’re changing your tune again on spec ops. Marines are on those ships. Army SF would be a rare thing to be on Navy ships. Delta is a sf group and was outed being in Israel on TV meeting Biden while he was in Israel. Delta does not function without a lot a various support units. US units.
3. No one is challenging the proficiency of your pilots. But taking on an Air Force with significantly more planes, particularly while yours are tied up on 2 fronts is a whole new game.
4. This is not 1967, 1973 and Turkey is a different country than it used to be. More assumptions.
5. China needs Iran’s and ME oil to survive. Instability in the ME is not to their favor.
1. Good.
2. I don’t know what is your source of the US forces on Israeli land. Give the source and ok. I am reading many many sources and didn’t see anyone say there are US troops operating on Israeli land.
And even if there are then are they there to rescue American hostages then what does it have to do with anything ? The whole argument started when I said the US will not have to fight for Israel and it never did. I listed all of Israel’s wars and the US never had boots on the ground fighting for us. In 1973 it almost happens but didn’t.
3. Ok. Turkey is not going to fight Israel anyways so it’s not relevant. They know better that 1200 KM from home against Israel is not going to be a good idea. Historically they never did so I see no reason to change.
it’s not impossible but very low probability.
4. No one is even considering Turkey as a force in this war. Not Israel and I listened to many generals and experts to Middle East some high level people. Also no active Americans mentioned a Turkish force getting involved. So I don’t even know why it so a subject? Trukey is in NATO and is close to the US. It has never been in war with Israel in modern history. I didn’t even hear a threat. In fact in normal days Turkey is a popular tourist attraction for Israelis. I have a friend who is doing a lot of business in Turkey.
5. I don’t under estimate the Turkish military. Simply saying it’s a no situation. We will see.
Overall I am not saying that a worst case scenario is impossible but I don’t see Russia fighting for Iran nor Turkey fighting for Gaza. And for sure not China fighting the US over an attack on Iranian nuke sites or something like that. The US will not try to take over Iran and stop the oil.
But if Iran attacks Israel then their oil fields are fair game and Israel will fight back.
If you ask me the biggest danger of it all is if Iran uses the chaos and manages to assemble a nuclear bomb. This would change the dynamics. Or if they race towards it and Israel spots it then it will have to act.
If I am not mistaken, one of MacGregor’s captains at the Battle of 73 Easting was H.R. McMaster. Where did he end up?
Thank you David.
I agree with you. I remember Putin bought his old Jewish German teacher a home in Tel Aviv when she emigrated to Israel
When Putin met his Jewish German teacher in Israel
Russian president bought a Tel Aviv flat for Mina Yuditskaya Berliner after the two reunited in 2005
She described Putin as a diligent student who, despite skipping classes to attend wrestling matches and practice, had a good command of the material taught to him by Yuditskaya Berliner.
Putin often spoke admiringly of his Jewish wrestling coach, Anatoly Rakhlin. At Rakhlin’s funeral last year, Putin, reportedly overcome by emotion, ditched his security detail and went on a short, solitary walk.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/when-putin-met-his-jewish-german-teacher-in-israel/
I know about it. He is double faced with Israel not not a direct enemy. But Putin cares about his own interests. He is very calculated and not emotional.
I would say that Putin cares more for Russia and the wellbeing of its people than his emotions.
Hello, David. I greatly respect your position in Israel and your own observations. As a westerner I can only try to think my way through many commentaries from multiple sources.
I pretty much sum up your feelings as:
-the IDF should go into Gaza for the purpose of exterminating Hamas and civilian casualties are unfortunate (you don’t seem bloodthirsty at all) but would be necessary;
-a wider war is not a particular concern to you because you believe the enemy’s strengths–Iran and Turkey among them–are relatively inferior, despite some likely damage and suffering to Israel;
-you would anticipate terrorist activity enlarging but this would be understood as inevitable and should not be determining of national policy;
-you seem to be relatively fatalistic about a potential very bad outcome, whereby without US assistance Israel would exercise the nuclear option rather than be annihilated.
It is my feeling–admittedly in a land a long way from the horrible Oct 7 attacks–that your conclusions lack enough distance from the global dimensions of the kind of retaliation in Gaza that all-out Hamas destruction would require.
I have heard estimates of upwards of 150,000 missiles in Hezbollah’s armory, all of which could be targeted on northern Israel with ease. Would “successful” intervention in Gaza from your perspective remain seen in that light if even only a small fraction of those missiles impact only Tel Aviv? Would the killing in Gaza assuage the grief of however many thousands of Israeli lives under Hezbollah attack? For that matter, do you have reason to believe–since I can’t find any–that Hezbollah/Iran would forego any retaliation for a full-force Gaza incursion?
I believe Colonel MacGregor has the experience, war-based experience, age and wisdom to want to cut the world’s losses, including if not especially Israel’s. I don’t find in his interview any sympathy for the devil that is Hamas but a wider concern for Israel’s survival should greater war ignite.
To my mind, justice can be found by the Israeli people against Hamas by means other than inciting the world against it through action that bad actors in the corporate press will use against your country.
For one thing, a public and righteous investigation into what actors inside Israel dismantled the early warning security system and fostered an incredible intelligence “failure”–on the US 9/11 model.
There’s no reason not to believe that your country was set up by a worldwide deep state group of psychotics known as various intelligence agencies willing to cooperate with Hamas to draw Israel into igniting the flame that will turn the middle east into a money laundering pleasure for psychotic US (and other) politicians and deep state actors. Not to mention engaging US corporate press attention leading into the 2024 election cycle where current US political corruption would be likely to be center stage.
I would hate to see your country fooled into its own destruction just as the US public was fooled by the similar cold-blooded barbarism of 9/11. And I truthfully hope your nation, politicians and IDF find a way to navigate to justice by a righteous but surgical response rather than by a road that leads to much worse than even these horrible attacks on Oct 7th.
Nothing but respect to you and all Israelis.
RIchard
Thanks. I will answer.
1. Not blood thirsty. Correct. Let civilians evacuate. No mercy on Hamas. I don’t know if you know the magnitude of the torture they inflicted on families, children and women. Horror movies. Just telling you about it will hurt your soul.
2. Not correct. I am concerned about a war with Iran and Turkey. I am pretty sure Turkey will not do it. Based on modern history they never did and we had pretty much everyone else involved. Iran can damage us a lot. They already did. The only justification to want a confrontation is if we can put an end to their nuclear sites. Otherwise no. many of my family are in Haifa and they just warned they will attack Haifa. So no thank you.
3. Correct.
4. Not correct. I am not fatalistic. I think we are about to kick the Hamas’s ass so bad that it will go into military history books. I just mentioned that in a case we are about to be fully destroyed then our options are either nukes or a US help. We have a term for it. An actual policy term that not many know. It is “The Samson Option”. You can see it on Wikipedia. It means that like Samson before we go the enemy goes too by nukes. Actually the enemy knows it and it is a deterrence.
5. “It is my feeling that…”. Sorry I didn’t understand. This is a very significant event. Some compare it to our War of independence. It is sheer survival. Our enemies are looking. The small fishes will sometimes eat a larger but injured fish. They are watching us. It’s a cruel neighborhood. If they see weakness it can lead to something that will be hundreds of times worse than 10/7. Even annihilation. But with the back to the wall we usually win.
On top of it there is an emotional aspect and the humiliation. Israelis will kick to hell any leader who will not go all the way and finish Hamas and secure the borders so that citizens can go back and live around the border. Right now there is a feeling of distrust in the ability of the nation to protect its citizens. It must be restored or people will leave Israel and the end of Israel will arrive.
6. Wow you have a very high level of English, way above the average. I hope I am getting it right.
First, they not only have 150,000 missiles. They also have many which are way larger than what Hamas has and they have many precision missiles. So there are fears that they can wipe out our Airports and water and electricity and nuclear center and many other strategic locations on top of massive civilian devastation.
But the latest attack is like a Wake Up call. For decades we ignored the calls of our enemies to exterminate us. We thought we could contain it. we were disillusioned. So we have the same issue with Hezbollaha and Iran.
Strategically no one can tell the outcome of such wide war. Israel will have to protect its people and use extreme measures that will cause a lot of damage to Lebanon. Israel will have a difficulty to withstand 3000-5000 rocket per day on its population. If it goes south it can lead to a use of a tactical nuke. A nations of 9,000,000 can’t lose tens of thousands of people and get flattened while its other neighbors will join if they see we are overwhelmed.
But more likely is a bloody war and we finally get rid of the Hezbollah threat once and for all. This would give us the resolution for the “Never Again” slogan.
Israel’s power is not to be under estimated. Yes we were surprised but we are a nation of warriors. we are high spirit and unity in times of trouble like you have never seen. Spirt alone wins wars. Not weapons and hate.
7. I think the General is more concerned for US economy and a risk of a WW3. I think he is missing some key issues. Like how important it is that we win and restore our spirit and safety around the borders, how important it is that the neighbors witness a massive retaliation and a victory. (In the Middle East the perception of a weak Israel is a death sentence. If we negotiate and let it pass with anything less than a destroyed Hamas the neighbors will consider us “garbage”. No one will want peace and it will lead to a disaster. And internally people will break and leave. So with all respect and I don’t know who this Colonel is at all. Telling us that
Turkey is the “only logical and reasonable” in the area is infuriating. They are very very supportive of Hamas and hosted them and helped them with money and are now trying to protect them. Just imagine that someone murdered your children in the worst possible way and it was your neighbor and there is no police so you are about to take action and another neighbour is now calling you “to be peaceful and be reasonable and make a ceasefire” and agree to live with the monster who could murder your other kids too and is intending to do so. Well, it’s how we feel now when anyone waves “peace” to stop us form doing what we have to do.
8. The world right now is supporting the wiping out of Hamas like they did to ISIS.
If you get the point that this is an existential war and we will be wiped out if we don’t eliminate the threat completely then you understand that is only one path and Hamas must be gone. I don’t know what you saw. The media toned it down. You would you think it’s just rape and shooting at people or beheadings you are far away from what happened. I can give you nightmares just from telling you, not to mention the footage and testimonials of first responders. It’s absolutely sick.
Just to give you a clue. There is a video of an 10 year old begging the terrorist to murder him while he is bleeding and his parents and sister were murdered in front of him. The terrorist just sits and eats and let the chid bleed to death. And there are a lot of those things and this is by far not the worst. And they streamed those things live and you had to see the magnitude of the celebrations in Gaza and the West Bank. And frankly western liberal media have created the justification for the world to contain those monsters and call them “freedom fighters”. It is not a few wild terrorists who went off protocols. They were instructed. I saw interrogations and I saw their supreme leader screaming to rip people’s hearts and children etc…. They educated a generation of hate ridden brainwashed people. We had a wake up call.
After the Holocaust we said “Never Again” and we just failed to keep the promise. So there is time for peace and time for war. This is war that was declared on us. Once the job is done and there is no Hamas and the other wild organizations there like Islamic Jihad. Then we can talk about how to ever reach peace with the hateful and brainwashed. You are thinking in Western terms. You think those are a few insane people who hijacked the Gazans but the People there and West Bank are about 80% supporting what just happened. I can prove it but its too long.
9. There will be a big investigation. I have already heard a few testimonials and have knowledge of what happened from good sources. No in Israel it’s impossible to be an inside job. It’s too long to explain here as I will have to goi over Israeli society and what and how it is thinking and operating.
10. Again. There is no inside job. As much as it looks impossible that the mess up was so huge. Again it’s hard for me to explain Israeli psyche and how it thinks. But there are Definitely Deep State players around and in Israel
who created the months of protests and division in society to a point of border line civil war and it was a major incentive for the enemy to attack now.
There could have been a spy involved but not a whole coordinated operation inside.
Deep State is all over Israel in an almost duplicate pattern to the US. I mean they control the media, education, Justice system , and even infiltrated the thinking and education of high brass military.
11. When you fight an enemy who hides behind civilians while shooting at you and have their headquarters under hospitals all you can do is let the civilians a safe path to a no war zone and surgically get under the hospital.
But in zones that the citizens left any person there will be considered Hamas.
We dropped thousands of leaflets telling them what is coming and where to go to safety until we get the job done.
As to deep state. Israel is blessed both with a vibrant Deep State and a vibrant Islamic fanatic haters.
It’s where we are and we will overcome like we did for thousands of years.
Thank you Richard for the support!
I don’t take it for granted.
How they hate a Christian in Damascus! – and pretty much all over Turkeydom as well. And how they will pay for it when Russia turns her guns upon them again! It is soothing to the heart to abuse England and France for interposing to save the Ottoman Empire from the destruction it has so richly deserved for a thousand years. I never disliked a Chinaman as I do these degraded Turks and Arabs, and when Russia is ready to war with them again, I hope England and France will not find it good breeding nor good judgment to interfere.
– Mark Twain
(Updated: when Israel is ready to war with Hamas and Hezbola again, I hope America will not find it good breeding nor good judgment to interfere.)
Hello again David.
Thank you for taking the time to give me, and all of us in the West with our (currently anyway) higher level of personal security, a ground level view of things there.
I appreciate the depth and detail of your responses to the points of my email. They, and your experience as a clearly patriotic Israeli citizen, are very moving. No one (including me) or group or think tank commentator or talking head that did not personally live through an invasion by a rabid enemy who broke through border defenses, entered and destroyed homes and murdered and tortured innocent loved ones including children with the kind of brutality and cruelty Israelis have suffered can know, truly, whereof they speak. In the end only Israel knows, and only Israel has the moral high ground, no matter who says what.
They killed our innocents, too, from the skies and buried us in rubble, no less despicably with no less heartbreak; but what Israel experienced only Israel has experienced since WW II, each time its own holocaust with unimaginable barbarism.
Regardless of my earlier post, speaking now from an age a half century distant from a war in a country that no longer exists, I know that were I of military age again, and this time an Israeli rather than an American, I would be speaking exactly as you are now. I could not personally bear the crimes I either witnessed or learned of to pass without demanding, and being part of, the kind of justice you insist is the only one Israel will serve against all international advice, warning or input.
Against this backdrop, then, but from my distance and advanced years, I would nevertheless counsel your country to find justice in a way that blends your full fury with as much reason as you can bring to bear in the matter of your response. That means to me, in practical terms, if IDF is going to flatten Gaza until all Hamas is reckoned with by body count, then let Israel precede the operation by broadcasting far and wide its effort to spare non-combatants, particularly women and children, possibly through all diplomatic channels for neighboring countries to take just these Palestinians in, however unlikely Hamas would permit their safe passage. What is most difficult for most people of the world to bear is the sacrifice of children to violence under any conditions. I wish strongly for Israel to be able to avoid however possible for children’s sake and its own sake the killing of innocent children, even as no such kindness was shown Israel.
You said you are confident that the surprise with which the attack was launched, apparently in complete bypass of normal, highly regarded security defenses, was not a result of internal sabotage and could not have been an ‘inside job”. This seems paradoxical to me given that the one day an attack occurred the system, however it is configured, was down, and that was the day for the attack.
While I can certainly see how the division within Israel between progressive and conservative groups would be to Hamas’ advantage, I do not see how this social divisiveness prompted a major military intelligence failure unless it was somehow intentional and with internal actors. I can only suspect the Israeli intelligence community.
The intelligence communities of the world are like cops who spend too much time with bad guys, get corrupted themselves dealing with bad guys and become bad guys. No rookie cop out of any police academy started his career expecting to end up a dirty cop taking payoffs from cartels. No wide-eyed political history major in some leftist American university joined the CIA thinking he would one day be operating outside the Constitution and getting paid to help destroy it. Corrupt institutions corrupt their people.
The deep state as far as I can understand it are simply psychopaths–some of which are wealthy and intelligent and include financial, intelligence, corporate, media and political criminals. These people care, ultimately, only about themselves and money. War forever has been a way for the deep state cabals of all civilizations to make money. Because they are psychotics, their belief system is “myself and death to all others”; they do not have the internal compass to avoid creating a war that finally gets out of hand. Seeing it occur, they will only rejoice in it anyway as they seek their underground bunkers.
I see the hand of the deep state behind the Oct 7 attack as I see it behind 9/11. Deep state actors would be happy to work with Hamas and vice versa. The parallels are there, the American neocon response is no different. I would like to believe your nation’s security apparatus was not involved, but simply cannot, any more than I believe the US borders have been left open with any intention other than to allow entry of the same people seeking the death of the Great Satan, for no other purpose by the American side of the deep state to continue the destruction of freedom in the cause of more money and evasion of justice.
Maybe the lot of the world’s current civilization is to erupt into a fury of killing and destruction from the ashes and cemeteries of which survivors come together to find a better way. Or maybe not. Or maybe some statesman somewhere worthy of the name rises on the world stage to make a difference. Or maybe not.
Whatever happens, in my own heart I will always be on the side of Israel however events unfold, or explode, going forward, whether deep state actors are gleefully rubbing their hands together and preparing to uncork the champagne.
Every person I know condemns the terrorists for their actions. Maybe in the near future, not just the terrorists, but the hidden parties supporting and enabling them will be brought to justice in front of the whole world.
I understand Israel, as Israel, has to do what it has to do.
My best wishes to you and your family and fellow Israelis!
Richard
Well … based on everything I just heard Col. McGregor say … my conclusion is that Hamas may have just scored the greatest Radical Islamic Victory since 9-11. The Radical Muslims have us over a barrel … they’ve invaded our lands and poisoned our children’s minds. They’ve built up Iranian military might. We’ve capitulated our economy to the Communist Chinese. We’ve unilaterally destroyed our fossil fuel development. We’ve SPENT ourselves into EPIC DEBT triggering EPIC shortages and Inflation. So we’re forced to negotiate with Hamas … negotiate from a position of weakness. Our nation has been hobbled.
What changed from Jan. 2020 when we were flying high, and the world was at Peace. Hmmm … what could that be?
Dear Kenji, don’t be discouraged. He is maybe an expert in some aspects of war but his Middle East evaluation is vastly wrong and I detailed it.
You’re right that the US is on the ropes. But not because of the Middle East or the Islamists.
Progressive agenda and a takeover of the centers of power like Justice Department, Intelligence, Education, Economy is more of the problem.
Best
David
They are not “radical” Muslims practicing some kind of “radical” Islam.
They are Muslims practicing Islam as all Muslims’s “Perfect Man”, Mohammad, did.
Well. Islam is an interesting religion. Many take out of it what matches their emotion. In conflict zones they take war. Some places choose the more peaceful quotations. In the Middle East it’s a bad situation.
A war with iran will be a war islam, and that war will be fought within our own country. The clintoons, bushes, and 0bama made sure of that.
jus wundrin: Which Islam? There are too many to count.
As a Muslime once said “THERE IS ONLY ONE ISLAM”
Given the chance, they will kill each other to prove their version thereof is the only pure one.
IDF shows foreign press Hamas bodycam videos, photos of murder, torture, decapitation
Government says it’s revealing horrific footage collected from various sources to the media in order to fight ‘Holocaust-like denials’ of Hamas’s massacres in southern Israel
https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-shows-foreign-press-raw-hamas-bodycam-videos-of-murder-torture-decapitation/
I have written here some of the horrors that are beyond understanding. I marked it with warnings as just reading it can make a scar in the soul.
It is just horrendous. I heard descriptions of the medical teams who arrived. They are traumatized. You can see my “Update Israel” at the long comment at the end if you want to be traumatized.
Just a glimpse from the released 40 min videos that reports saw would be a 10 year old, wounded boy who is begging to be murdered after his injury and watching what they did to his family and the terrorist is sitting and eating carelessly as the boy is dying. What in the world would make a 10 year old beg to be killed? Awful. I am Israeli and I am telling you that Gaza has brought hell upon itself. 80% are supporting and cheering the horrors. We saw the massive celebrations and parades in the streets with naked woman who was raped.
We saw the terrorist uses the phone of one of his victims and bragging to his mom that “he killed 10 jews with his own hands” and the mom is cheering. We are not like them. We don’t want a collective punishment. But the gloves are off. Any place a Hamas person is hiding is a fair target. Aside for a hospital. And yes both their Headquarters are located under hospitals and we will have to arrive there and wipe them out underneath the hospitals. And don’t be surprised if they blow up the hospitals to blame Israel.
They are capable of anything.
Thank you David. This is so sad.
There is no alternative but to go in and wipe them off the face of the earth.
ALL the Gazans celebrated this atrocity.
ALL of them.
And ALL Muslims worldwide as well.
Bridget Gabriel said ALL of them are Hamas and support Hamas.
David, thank you for your take. I am sure you are better informed than most of us. The 80% percent that are supporting Hama, is I assume an estimate. I fully support Israel taking action against Hamas. My concern is the 20% or more that don’t support the terrorists.
It looks like the 2o% are trapped with no way out. Is this correct? Also the UN estimates 5000 dead Gazans?
I know the 20% who are not supporting this war are suffering. But it is a bit complex to explain it in this short comment but this war was forced on us and those who understand the factors in the Middle East know that it’s an existential war that if we don’t win there will be no Israel and this atrocity will look like nothing compare to what will happen.
I is like a large injured fish and the many other smaller fishes see and eat the injured fish.
in this neighborhood if we leave Hamas alive we will be looked at as weak and degraded. No one will make peace with us. We will be attacked million times stronger and Israelis who just lost their feeling of trust in the security forces and who lost the general sense of safety will simply leave Israel and the remaining people will not be able to survive. It will bring upon us an attack from the 20% of Arab Israelis who are livening with us. We will not survive.
It’s the reality of the Middle East. Only the string get peace and even that for a limited time.
Gaza is a brainwash land. From early childhood they are educated to hate and want to kill Jews. It may be more than 80% who support murdering Jews. Did you see the celebrations after they saw the footage of the atrocities? Did you see the big waves of civilians who took the opportunity and entered Israel to kill Jews?
‘The son of one of the Founders of Hamas turned and helped Israel to prevent suicide bombs is telling of a mother who sent all her five children one by one blow themselves up and kill Jews.
Already in the 60s Golda Meir the Prime Minister said that “when the Arabs love their children more than they hate us there will be peace”. And it happened with some Arabs. Palestinians are not interested in peace. They don’t recognize the right of Israel to exist in any borders. Zero. And it’s not just politicians. I have many ways to prove it. Including poles and random interviews. .
Macgregor’s dissembling is predictable.
His cowardice does present us with an important question:
When faced with Evil, what do we do?
Macgregor is not a coward and not evil, but it sure wasn’t his best moment (or 27 minutes)
I almost thought his hair would catch fire (what he’s got left)
“We” are not faced with evil. Israel is faced with the problem not the United States.
I don’t want my children and my money going to defend any more Middle East countries including Israel. I don’t want a war with Russia either. Col Douglas Macgregor is discussing the problem from the view point of America not any other country. In case, anyone hasn’t noticed Turkey is a member of NATO with the largest military. If Israel and Turkey start a war then we’d either be fighting a NATO Ally or Israel. The fighting has to end now!
You have made it quite easy not to take you comments seriously.
BS.
His analysis is prescient, not dissembling.
And as for his cowardice, you may want to ask those who served with him at 73 Easting in Iraq I when he led the greatest rank battle in modern history right out in front, personally destroying tanks and armored personnel carriers while vastly outnumbered.
Maybe you can enlighten us with your heroic military exploits.
I am amazed. Just a couple posts ago, Biden was described as working for Hamas.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/10/23/the-game-continues-hamas-releases-two-more-elderly-hostages-keeps-their-husbands/
Here, Biden is depicted as marching us to Armageddon. Well, letting Blinken and Graham march us to Armageddon.
At least Sundance is willing to present differing positions.
Is Graham a surrogate for the administration, or is he just a dangerous wildcard intent on going to war, any war?
Does Biden going to war against the Obama and Biden friends Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran even make sense?
Or are we so messed up with the warped conflict that as Tucker hints that we aren’t thinking through our actions, and are bullheadedly throwing our weight around not caring if war is the result?
With this crew we can never know. So much of what they do is designed to hurt us. Destroy our economy. Let in invaders. Destroy the rule of law. Steal elections. Destroy education. Divide us into Balkanized tribes that hate each other. The list goes on forever. Intentionally engaging us in wars and losing them could be part of their long term plans.
Well, I am sorry to say, my answer to all of the questions in your post is Yes and No. Graham has never not loved war. Meanwhile he dances in the dark with a pink tutu on. Joe Brain dead is just that. Period. And yeah verily, I’ve never read anything anywhere about anyone who lusts for war to think through on their actions.
And yeah, verily it does seem like a good thing to be aware of what hurts you and me.
I try to stay aware but the weeds are really getting thick, high, and full of ticks. I have to tell myself very often every day now to BEWARE OF DARKNESS. It is not what I/you are here for.
Team Joe probably thinks this helps his re-election.
Not to be negative but realistic, this ends with a nuclear exchange. It’s all part of their plan which has been unfolding to a tee.
Enjoy what you can while you can.
Axios is saying that there are US officials who are rattled, scared?
They are all part of the Biden administration who have been dragging us into total war since Biden became President.
Now they are scared or rattled?
Behind the Curtain: Rattled U.S. government fears wars could spread
https://www.axios.com/2023/10/20/biden-government-war-fears-israel-hamas
This report from Tom Fitton should scare every American.
The next war is right here in America.
Yet Congress does absolutely nothing except have phoney hearings and sham investigations.
Would be nice if all our “World Leaders” would just simmer down and micro-dose some LSD or something – Jaysus!
I personally do not agree with this colonel. He always makes it sound like we are weak, less advanced, and unprepared.
He is very realistic, even if it’s not comfortable information. 70% of our military is either overweight or obese. A number of soldiers have gotten waivers because they can’t pass physicals. We have over 900 active duty generals who are political animals and have never conducted war time military operations. We have spent millions on a woke agenda.
The US has no hypersonic missiles while Russia has 3 different lines of them; China has two and is developing a third. Our weapons systems are very expensive, costly to repair, break down regularly. We cannot produce them in quantity because we don’t have the manufacturing capacity. Our strategic oil supplies were plundered to decrease the price of gasoline to affect the 2022 election. If petroleum were cut off to the US in the middle east, we would definitely have a problem. We have transferred a lot of war materiel to Ukraine and Taiwan and lost several billions when we left Afghanistan. Our country is in serious debt to China. We have nearly a trillion dollar trade deficit. Our interest rates have gone up which has made our banks unstable.
Well, we are weak, less advanced and unprepared, by design from a certain few while the rest of us chat about all of it happening.
MacGregor is fence walking past Armageddon, Scott Ritter and Clayton Morris get it > THEY’RE NOT BLUFFING >
Thank you for posting this interview CTH. Listened to the entire interview. Very disturbing. I guess the US citizen is supposed to accept that they will be financing any and every war that “our leaders” and the MIC needs to have to continue its existence.
I don’t think anyone who “voted for JOE BRAIN” enlisted to be an attendant to “clean up on aisle one” whenever of whatever disaster this regime conjoures up to portray itself as powerful.
Our “LEADER” is Obummer in the basement. And I that critter has some serious explaining to do as to why he wants to thoroughly destroy this world.
He most is mad because his parents never potty trained him, he still wets the bed, and can’t figure out how he exactly got himself into swimming in the crock he’s in.
Biden is docile and disabled. Obummer is the one to watch. He is TOTALLY NUTSO.
The only way I can make sense of anything out of Washington since Biden’s installation is simply that everything that comes out of current US management, from Biden to Uniparty congress to Homeland Security and all alphabet soups in between–is to distract from growing public awareness of its now systemic–a word finally used where it is actually true–criminality.
All its ideology, all its programs, all its lip service is secondary.
There is ultimately no higher purpose, no deeper motive than that visible in Hitler’s sacrifice of Germany to prevent his capture and execution.
The world in flames and every mother’s son in a body bag–Israeli and Palestinian alike–is no deterrent. Ukraine and now the middle east–circus and games, to keep the headlines facing outboard with (equally psychotic) corporate media willingness.
The intelligence state is the Deep State is the international corporate board room and there is no linked asylum more inhabited by psychotics anywhere across the world. Don’t insinuate great cunning into their worldwide cabal. It is a gang of berserkers, with computers and internet hideaways, and bags of dark and taxpayer money to pay their mercenaries, and whose only effort is first to enrich themselves, and then kill anyone they fear is on their trail. It is pay-for-slay on a global scale that Attila the Hun would be in awe of even as he stood in front of his mountain of human skulls.
As much as we would like to believe and hope otherwise, stopping them may only be possible on the model that finally stopped Hitler.
Even prophets were wrong when prognosticating on their own. Choose life.
Interesting but very short bit where he says US and Israeli SOF teams got shot up pretty badly last weekend…let’s hope he’s misinformed. If that were so, I’d expect to see Hamas boasting about it on the evening news cycle.
I recall an Israel site talking about some casualties with one of their incursions. The statement was limited and low key.
I hope this crisis ruins both Biden AND Bibi.
South Carolina, you’re right there with Kentucky. How you can elect the slobbering idiot Lindsey Graham over and over and over again and again and again . . . .