The Jim Jordan floor vote is going to end up being a public GOP exhibition in who supports unlimited Ukraine funding. Jim Jordan has expressed opposition to more funding for Ukraine, and the professional Republican wing of neocons do not like that.
A great example surfaces today inside the change of position for one of the staunchest Ukraine advocates, Indiana representative Victoria Spartz. However, what I find most interesting about her reversal is Spartz’s unwillingness to admit the reason.
[SOURCE]
Despite her political pretending, Representative Spartz primary allegiance is to her home country of Ukraine, not the United States. It is disingenuous in the extreme how the media is reporting on her reversal without mentioning the one key element that drives her decision-making.
I am ALL IN on them having NO ONE to lead until the next “election.”
and i literally do not care what they gaslight us with. They are already trying to do it with Israel funding… soon it will be those poor military paychecks when they can’t get another CR… and no doubt they will ramp up the false flags and “disasters/emergencies” to try and force the hand of the few remaining patriots.
i say hold the line. SHUT IT DOWN.
I’d prefer Trump be Speaker for one day, just to release all of the J6 footage.
Ivan Raiklin has a great plan for getting the DC swamp completely drained; one to elect President Trump as Speaker and how to explain getting him elected as Speaker, and then appointing the Capitol Police chief. After those 2 changes, the new Capitol Police chief would be required to turn over the J6 tapes, and all communications between Pelosi, Schumer, McConnell and McCarthy to be exposed.
https://rumble.com/v3oc9y8-we-the-people-demand-notice-on-next-speaker-of-the-house.html
Right there with you, M.B.
I think of it as a “back door Govt. shut down” since their fake crises with debt cieling limit b.s., can’t be exploited.
Shut it down, and don’t EVER start it up, again.
Watch these spectacular incompetents and genetic born losers wind up with Jeffries as SoH. Before God it would be no surprise. And the normie DOPES will cheer.
Shut it down, brush off the dust and mud on the Constitution, read it and Build it Back Better, as originally designed.
Isn’t $100 Billion and 500,000 dead Ukrainian soldiers enough to waste before you throw in the towel, Victoria?.
MAKE THEM VOTE. We need to know who needs to be removed from office. Trump should make it a MAGA vote like the NRA used to do. If Trump thinks Jordan is the guy, make it a referendum on who gets Trump support and who gets primaried next year.
Agreed…make them vote
I agree. Don’t let them hide like the corrupt cowards that they are! Make them vote! Expose them so we can sort the chicken sh*t from the chicken salad.
hokkoda,
Respectfully disagree.
“,..WHO needs to be removed from office.”?
THATS EASY. ANYONE and EVERYONE currently IN office, needs to be removed.
Either you believe the elections are rigged, or you don’t.
Assuming you do, then obviously anyone who is in office now, got their thru rigged elections, and so is compromised.
Vote them ALL out.
Well, that’s a nice utopian view, but it won’t happen. What we can do is target the enemies within.
We got rid of Liz Cheney and 8-10 others who voted to impeach Trump. Romney is toast.
If it was all rigged 100%, those people would still be in office.
Make it a referendum and then make them vote. Either they support Making America Great Again, or they don’t. If they switch parties, that helps us cast them out. If they vote with the Dems to get a Dem speaker, that helps.
A lot of people on our side aren’t fully awake to the fact that 30-40% of the GOP are Government Party plants.
Make them vote then start collecting scalps.
They all voted for Kevin McCarthy initially…they all have to go.
Snake poem goes here. 🤣
So some treason is OK?
How does that work and who decides.
Stop pretending.
Secure border for Ukraine, not for America? I wonder what the blackmail ‘our’ intelligence agencies have on him?
When Pat Buchanan spearheaded efforts in the 1990’s to build a border wall and the clear majority of republican voters and Americans wanted it, the GOPe RINO’s like CFR Speaker Gingrich & Lott (Republicans controlled both the House & Senate after the 94 mid terms) made sure to sit on their hands and do nothing about securing our border, while helping their Council On Foreign Relations friend Clinton pass every America destroying Free Trade legislation they could get their hands on.
Outsourcing America’s prosperity and dominance aka “The New World Order” (economics)while pouring in millions of illegal third worlders to destroy it culturally/socially/nationally.
Historians will look back in stupor at 20th and 21st century Americans who believed the magnificent republic they inherited would be enriched by bringing in scores of millions from the failed states of the Third World.
Pat Buchanan— Suicide of a Superpower
They’ve all been hip-waders deep in the world’s greatest money laundry. They’re afraid that we will “find out.” (Guess what …) 🤡
Yep, I don’t understand the logic of importing failure.
She just earned the Sean Penn Award for Best Supporting Deep State Pretender of the week.
FAKE WAR
Shame on the human race. Dont know which one is more embarrassing, the ‘war on covid’ mob or the ‘war in ukraine’ crowd.
The makers of ‘The War on Covid’ and ‘The War In Ukraine’ bring you…..’The War on Israel’. In Theaters Now!!
She sure puts out a lot of memes that say “This is how I will always remembr Ukraine”, and that’s a new one.
Looks like a bunch of idiots to me. Idiots who started a Ukraine Scampeachment Hoax.
Are there other examples?
I altered her original Twit post in the hopes it might wake some people up.
with the theme being war
being Fake War
Why don’t she drop in at Gaza and see how she is received.
I’ll never forget “Don’t Eat the Yellow Snow”
Frank was right about that
– too.
…. and then there’s that spot🤔
Movin to montana soon,..
gonna be a dental floss tycoon,…
brown shoes don’t make it
quit school why fake it
Except its not entertaining really…more like disgusting…
That quote was made by him during simpler times. Better times.
LOL
Well said.
From my heart to yours with love
That! Is absolutely the whole truth, nothing but the truth so help us God.
UK university to offer postgraduate degree in witchcraft and the Occult
https://nypost.com/2023/10/13/uk-university-to-offer-postgraduate-degree-in-witchcraft-and-the-occult/
We owe Nixon an apology too …
My fervent hope is that we can make it up to DJT before we have to make a similar belated apology to him also!
That’s right… and they cancelled him too…
Our system is a wide open door to any subversive to run for office. Look no further than our own constitution’s lack of vetting: no litmus test, no limit to public money a fraud candidate can offer in exchange for their election. It’s the Western way and we send kids to die for this.
These Somalis and other foreigners getting into congress is the object lesson in FAIL. Why are they there? Because we let ANYONE in… because that’s America, baby.
There is always a human cesspool of do-nothings with ballots, ready to throw that precious vote to their grifter of choice. That’s democracy for you… the weakest link runs the chain.
This ain’t gonna fix itself via the same way that got us here. A2 can only do so much in keeping communism away from your door.
Penn is roiding. That explains his irrational behavior
Ok. What is her reason for reversal?
Jim Jordan is against continuing support for the supposed war in Ukraine.
Actually, I smell a fake issue.
This has all of the hallmarks,….
Like Brandon refusing Jr. SS “protection” it burnished Jrs bono fides, as an “outsider” and was a fake issue, because Jrs private security firm actually much better than the SS.
JJ making a point of saying no more $ to Ukes, and then after he’s Speaker, just like McCarthy he will renig.
If called on it, will say he HAD to pass bill, to see whats in it, or HAD to go along with Uke $, in order to get $ for something else, etc.
Besides, Ukraine IS fading fast, and JJ is just going with the flo.
“we’ve seen this game before”, too many times.
I ain’t buying it, not for nuttin!
Because she is from Ukraine.
Ukrainian by birth to “refugee”?
She wants to keep sending $$$ to UKRAINE, and Jordan has said he opposes additional funding.
Are they ever going to say, it does not matter what I think but my district that I represent says “no”? Do they have any idea what the people back home think about anything?
They do, but they don’t care.
Think of all the connections and ties she has to be bringing home the laundry.
That is why we should NEVER allow a non-American born citizen to hold any Federal office! Her loyalty is to her home country first, even though she swore an oath to USA!
or special advisor positions in the executive branch?
Same reason why Kelly Loeffler reversed her decision to not support the certification of the fraudulent 2020 Georgia election results.
‘It’s always there, right below the conservative veneer; and if you wait, it surfaces’
https://www.theblaze.com/news/gop-sen-kelly-loeffler-reverses-course-drops-objection-to-biden-electors-after-capitol-stormed
Not genuine or real; sham or counterfeit, Spurious, deceptive, or false, Fraudulent, deceitful, or dishonest.
Sundance, I evidently wasn’t paying attention, so don’t know how to read the rest of the article. I did see the warning about upcoming news access, but thought I could get it figured out.
I’m lost. You’re the best thing since Limbaugh; I’ll give my email if that’ll help. I just want to keep reading. Tell me how.
Lizzy
Go ahead, Jim. Speak your mind. If you become Speaker you will be doing that a lot. (Or, “you’d better be!”)
If you try to limit what you say based on what your colleagues think of you, you won’t say anything at all. And that’s not what your constituents hired you to do.
“I am not sure if he truly is the independent thinker and visionary leader we need to deliver for the American people.”
Sending taxpayer money to a morass in Ukraine is not delivering for the American people.
I watched Gaetz’s show last night and he highlighted the best of Jim Jordan. Only problem whether Hillary Clinton with Benghazi or Fauchi with Covid he blasted them real good, but where are the results.
So Gaetz is for Jordan?
That is my rep. Generally very conservative but on this issue wrong!
rah..get to “her a face” as dems do…..
I say fine with that. No one until we straighten them out. Enough is enough
She’s the one that declared trump to stay away “we have enough drama” without any defense of trump fighting for us, standing in the gap.
Republicans are so pathetically weak, it’s embarrassing.
Yes, I have been looking around at vids online and they are all whining about losing their friend Kevvie Boy, including in the Senate.
No one took away your friend, he just got FIRED FOR NONPERFORMANCE by the American people, and rightly so. We did not want him in the 1st place, and we hope California will primary his a** out in 2024, like the import who supports Ukraine vs. America First.
There is no supporting majority for a true, strong party… Ted Kennedy saw to that. The Rs were reduced to also-rans with unbridled third world immigration, Ted’s base agenda.
Because $100,000,000,000 just isn’t enough.
Everything for 🇺🇦 .
Nothing for 🇺🇸 .
Brilliant leadership, that.
hyphenated-americans are always more loyal to the country/religion/race that preceeds the “american” part…
Spartz is not running again. That she has shown her allegiance to the country which has given her the opportunity to rise to the position she occupies is nonexistent and remains with possibly the most corrupt country on earth indicates to me that her decision to call it a day is the correct one.
Ingrate.
<…(She) remains with possibly the most corrupt country on earth.>
Yes…Spartz lacks smarts.
😎👍🏻
She’s running for the Senate.
Oh really….
I love that look!
It’s starting to be my permanent one, Mims. I have passed that eyebrow raising gene to my daughter AND my granddaughter. Experts both 👍🏻
And is representing one of the most Corrupt States and Cities in the union
That’s saying something, Doc, given the competition. It must be bad.
But now she gets a pension from us for life
I know, Susan…infuriating.
The war is over and Ukraine has lost. There are bigger wars to fight now!!!
Ukraine lost. No point in throwing good money after bad.
Particularly when the money is non-existent anyway.
The DC laundromat sign is still flashing “OPEN”.
IMHO, It’s never been about the war, it’s always been about the money laundering and the grift. Much of money that goes to Ukraine comes back into the coffers of our elected grifters. This is why they want to keep giving Ukraine money. They don’t give a damn about the “war”.
Also to Sundance’s point – have you seen any footage of imbedded journalists in Ukraine 🤔🤔🤔 – nope. Only footage of fake air raid sirens and a lot of people dancing in discos…
….and IF we had never interfered, it never would have happened in the 1st place!
The was is over. Ukraine has lost.
We should have learned from the last one.
This is yet another issue that needs attention. All these people from other countries get important seats at the table and are able to promote what is good for their “home country.” There should be no “home country” other than the United States of America. People in these positions should have been born in the U.S., live in the U.S., and have no “family” living in another country. Period, end of story. Does anyone think a citizen of the United States would be allowed to obtain these positions in another country? How about I move to Britain and get into their political apparatus? I’m sick of these people whose allegiance is to any other country except America making decisions to benefit their “home country” or “family in another country.” AMERICA FIRST, LAST, AND ALWAYS!
Try going down to Mexico, and voting in their elections,…as good a wayvto commit suicide as any, I suppose.
I suspect the same could be said for a great many countries, to one degree or another.
Try becoming a “naturalised citisen” in Japan, I understand its impossible.
In Prague I was told to become a citizen one must pass a citizenship exam given in Czech and have a guaranteed income.
Yeah? Read my comment on this. There never was a system of sorting out the wheat from the tares.
Opposition to indefinite Ukraine funding is opposition to indefinite death, mainly of Ukrainian troops.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_DZH2cmCoois/RfnNI-_50-I/AAAAAAAABeM/flA4Zz0sBUg/s400/War_Is_Not_Healthy.bmp
Check her for Offshores. “Kevin” was Uniparty just like her.
I don’t care. Vacate one Speaker of the House after another one until the republicans understand that patriots have hijacked the bus, and professional bureaucrats and politicians no longer get to drive.
Next stop, FREE SPEECH!
If she is so strongly still attached to her homeland, she should be the first to know that those billions seldom make their way down to the direct needs of the people. And, as most Americans are now learning, the fiscal needs of Ukraine’s war machine are begged for—and given—in vain. The war is essentially over.
She knows, she just wants to keep getting her cut of the pie.
Victoria Kulheyko Spartz, the Ukainian immigrant, is perhaps not as blatant as the illegal alien Congresswoman Ilhan Omar but both should be sent home, their birth home. Minus our citizenship.
If for no other reason than further smoking out all the traitorous RINOs to be primaried, it is worth going through the process with Jordan running for Speaker.
I forgot the password.
Wrong thread, and you’ll figure it out, or you won’t.
Right. The other post did not allow for comments. But…thanks.
SUNDANCE!…DELETE this if it is not acceptable info…
In reply to the query above: Look for CTH emails sent to you on or about Oct 7th. You will find it.
Thank you.
She’s concerned about Ukraine? Step up and put her ass on the front line b
I guess her oath of office regarding the country she was elected to serve means nothing. (The same goes for a vast number of our elected politicians). Also, wondering, by her action, if she is a current honorary member of the governing Ukrainian dictatorship.
At least, we can look and see her heritage, and so know her allegience is questionable.
In effect, she has an excuse; WHAT are the rest of thems excuse?
The only problem is that if she’s does not have a 100% allegiance to the US then that in itself can bias her legislative vote in a manner that is unfavorable to the country and will of the electorate she took and oath to serve.
*Long-time* reader here. First comment in seven years.
“Despite her political pretending, Representative Spartz primary allegiance is to her home country of Ukraine, not the United States. It is disingenuous in the extreme how the media is reporting on her reversal without mentioning the one key element that drives her decision-making.”
If this is the standard for Spartz – and I believe it’s appropriate – what does that say about the allegiance of other members of Congress who have dual citizenship?
“Why of course the people don’t want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don’t want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.
Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”
― Hermann Goering, Germany Reborn
100 ups.
Reality, like in 1030s, is suspended. In addition to murders, rape, and torture,
the fascist media covers up all. Yes, fascist, that word thrown around by the left…they don’t even know what it means…ask them sometime. Hitler was a fascist, commanding industry( e.g. NY Times, FORD, & democrats in the
US) and media to control the masses. Nobody knew about Concentration camps til the end of the war. Shame on US citizens who didn’t care to know.
93 current members of Congress (if I have it correct) have dual citizenship. The vast majority with Israel. Why is that even allowed.
You don’t. There are 26 Jewish congressman and nine Jewish senators. And not all of them have dual citizenship
𝐇𝐞𝐫 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐬 𝐥𝐢𝐤𝐞 𝐢𝐭 𝐰𝐚𝐬 𝐩𝐞𝐧𝐧𝐞𝐝 𝐛𝐲 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐒𝐭𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐃𝐞𝐩𝐚𝐫𝐭𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭.
Her statement reads like it was written by the State Department.
Too many elected representatives FAIL to realize that we don’t elect them to vote THEIR consciences. We elect them to vote OURS!
You people in Texas can do something right now!
Recall the prick Abbott.
Stop pretending Texas!
YOU are responsible for destruction in the whole US.
Texas could have stopped the invasion but you hid behind your worthless bravado … ‘We all have guns’. LOL
It is true. You’d think they could take a man in a wheelchair, shove him in the closet and do what needed to be done to right the ship for the entire country. Nope. Now all our children and grandchildren will pay.
These posts are on FIRE today. A2 ra-ra is weak… our guns accomplish little when there are 50 people on your property prying and tear-gassing their way in. The zombie apocalypse is manifest in mercenaries we call LEO’s. Yes, financed by you.
“Texas could have stopped the invasion”
The Supreme Court already ruled in Arizona v. United States that the federal government has exclusive right to set and enforce immigration law. So unless Texas secedes from the union, Abbott’s hands are tied.
And Texas is hardly the only state that shares a border with Mexico. You might think there are no crossings going on in New Mexico because you don’t see it on the news, but I can assure you that’s not the case.
Except when President Trump wanted to enforce the federal immigration law against sanctuary cities.
Then the federal government didn’t have any exclusive rights!
Good. Let’s see where they all stand. I want them to have an impeachment vote on Joe Biden for the same reason.
Can we stop electing immigrants? Losers? Illegals? People who can’t speak a grammatically correct sentence? Hoodie men? What is wrong with this place? It is a freakin Walmart congress. Wth is the lady in there in the 1st place. The squad should have been run out of town a long time ago.
Jordan should call spaz out and remind her this is America and we owe Ukraine nothing. Make the news for doing something honest for once.
They are elected by other like immigrants in their districts who out number native born Americans. Until those people realize they live in America now and not their old homelands they will continue to vote like foreigners. The assimilation rate of all the illegals being allowed in is dismal. Stop the invasion. Deport the illegals. Putting America last in our own nation won’t stop until we do that.
Is she still campaignng for her next job, the Senate? Remember, 10% to the big girl.
This is a tell for everyone in Indiana to primary her a** out NOW. I told you last year when Delusional Joe launched his MASSIVE MONEY LAUNDERING OP IN UKRAINE that she was all in for unlimited Ukraine funding then, and that she needed to go. Period. How about no more Senate or House seats for any more foreign born parties. I’m tired of the imports who only come here for the bennies and expect us to constantly pay for the date. I’M OUT!
I must’ve missed the memo:
“There were rumors that Spartz might run in Indiana’s U.S. Senate election in 2024 after Mike Braun decided not to seek reelection, but on February 3, 2023, she announced that she would not run for reelection or any other office in 2024.“
Yes you missed the memo, I was going to see if her being voted out in the primary was even an option but its not. Other things to note is she has been threatening to resign if budget reforms are not passed and she has accused Ukraine’s so called leaders of corruption. Apparently over a year ago she tried to warn us all that weapons sent to Ukraine from the US were ending up in Russia and Syria.
Perhaps vicky should open up her purse and generously give for the cause!
Victoria Spartz, a Republican state senator from Indiana, has an estimated net worth of between $1 million to $5 million
Maybe she should return to ukraine, and arm up.
From Fox (which I can;t link to as they want me to disable ad blocker)
The Dems of the PRoblem Solver Caucus are willing to give the Speaker
Pro Temp ( the McHenry Guy) more powers to allow for 15 day periods
covering specific areas. Foreign Aid to Ukraine and ISrael, extending
continuing resolution thru Jan. and committee and floor considerations
for appropriation bills
In exchange for that they would get half the suspension bills on the calendar
Wow!
What a deal!!
Betcha a bunch of GOPe folks are ready to give it up for this honey-pot of a deal!
I think this is a real indication that we don’t need naturalized citizens being part of our government. She evidently didn’t change her loyalties
I think its past time for zelensky to sit down with the ruskies and talk about peace. Im not certain, but I believe the ruskies have met their goals, so now they sit behind minefields and watch the uniparty inspired meat grinder.
What’s up with all these pols whose “home country” is somewhere other than the US? Our most dangerous enemies are right here at home.
Yes she speaks out for ‘FREEDOM” (in America) on one day and then insists on money for Ukraine, a.k.a. money laundering in Ukraine which is a major fund raising operation for the Uniparty and is doing nothing for Ukrainians other than using a lot of ordnance without any hope of victory. I used to think the Islamic radicals seemed ridiculous shooting their guns in the air all the time, and wasting ammunition, but now I realize the US is essentially doing the same thing in Ukraine.
The GOP supports unlimited funding for any war, Anywhere.
Except for our own southern border.
Spartz says she’ll consider resigning from Congress
By Olafimihan Oshin
2 Oct 2023
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4234161-spartz-says-shell-consider-resigning-from-congress
BTW, I hate The Hill, and there is a reminder of why on the very page I went to. They are pushing a Faux Newz poll that allegedly has Delusional Joe beating President Trump. In his dreams.
This is who owns The Hill:
https://www.nexstar.tv
That is why everything you hear and see from ALL of their entities, stories, polls or videos, will be delivered exactly the same, maybe with a different picture or two.
“Consider resigning”?
Spartz should be Expelled because she is not fulfilling her Oath to the US Constitution.
.
Maybe they some how figured in the mass mail in voting cheat into the poll, haha
If she lives in the United States especially as a leader and people from the Ukraine complain about her voting, she needs to be prepared to stand up for America first even if she has to eventually say “It sucks to be you”, or she needs to quit congress. That’s it. If that is not it, then what does ‘it’ look like?
Sundance,
Fine job of pointing out Ukrainian Spartz’s biases today. I expect many others will pass this along, if they don’t realize it already.
No doubt, President Trump and Jim Jordan will do what must be done to point out this lie to Spartz, along with others who are playing similar games.
She really is NOT as an astute politician, as her words indicate. Surely she must know that blatant lies such as this will be exposed early and often by the MAGA proponents.
Spartz made a very big political boo-boo!
‘It’s always there, right below the conservative veneer; and if you wait, it surfaces’
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/07/31/gov-kristi-noem-says-if-you-dont-like-vaccination-mandates-just-quit-your-job/
The truth is never told, it is learned.
And it is learned here in spades.
Thank you
OMG, I never heard that Noem made such a callous statement.
A loving husband or wife in their 20s, 30s or 40s raising a family had the option to either take poison jab or lose their livelihood, AND be declined for unemployment benefits. And where could they apply for a new job, considering all businesses were spewing the same “take the vax or else” BS.
Well, now I understand that Noem is no Conservative.
A few years ago when she backed down from outright refusing to allow trans students play against their biologic counterparts, she blathered about waiting to see if it was even “legal” to do so, and what would be the Sports World Executives take on this, blah blah blah…
Kristi has no conservative principles. Sitting pretty on a horse wearing a cowboy hat and admiring the Profiles on Mt. Rushmore does not make one a conservative.
She, like many others, is a CONservative…
Sometimes we call that “All hat, no cattle.”
Rita,
Take a moment and think. A loving husband or wife in their 20’s, 30’s, or 40’s did indeed have only those two options. However, if they contemplated it, reasoned it out, they would have made the right choice. Choice #1: Take the jab. Keep the job, get myocarditis, pericarditis, one of the turbo cancers, or any of the host of fatal “side effects” of the jab and die, leaving their spouse without a mate, their children parentless, and the insurance companies are not paying life insurance if you took the jab. It was and still is classified as “experimental medicine” and they consider you taking it to have “committed suicide”.
Choice #2: Let them fire you. Yes, you will need a new job. Yes, it will be hard to find one. But, remember, you cannot get a new job or continue to parent if you are DEAD!
Noem has never been Noen for her IQ
“Paging Deborah63… paging Deborah63…”(Deborah63 loves Kristi Noem…claims she is pureless and faultless and sinless)
Attacking “Deborah63”, who is NOT here, and not allowing her to defend herself is something the MSM does constantly. “Deborah63” gave a good answer explaining Governor Noem’s response to the trans legislation which satisfied those here who read and commented about it but the vaxx crap I cannot remember her response.
Still, to call a member out by NAME, trash them when they can’t defend themselves, well … welcome to President Trump’s world.
Personally, I think its all a bunch of bull. We are a nation that stands, or should anyway, on a majority. Jordan has that. Why does he need a certain number? Oh, I know. Congress, idiots.
Sir – What are you suggesting Mr. Jordan has a majority of? If you mean House Republicans (right now) yes but the speaker of the House is elected by the ENTIRE House not just the Republicans.
Not saying I like it, I am just pointing out the reality of the situation.
Displaying my ignorance of the Constitutional process, I don’t understand why the majority Party has to weigh the minority Party’s vote when picking a Speaker?
They wouldn’t have to if that majority party was unified in intent, or the numerical majority was larger. Since neither are true, unusual strategies are sometimes considered. It may look easier to make promises to political opponents than defiant members of your own party. A victorious Speaker candidate has to get a majority of ALL members’ votes. Right now Hakeem Jeffries (D) has the most votes, 212, because his party is more unified in their shared goals.
I think all potential (R) candidates including DJT face uphill battles getting to 217.
And we’ve seen what some of those “unusual strategies” can produce…McCarthy for instance
It’s being exposed now and is fun to watch the squirming and double talk
Then the RINOS in the House MUST be primaried. The Dem regime never has this problem.
The RINOs ARE Dems
Because we are a constitutional republic, and even when there is one ‘party’ that is in the voting majority, as far as elected representatives go, the minority must be considered. There was no 2-party or any party system devised in the creation of the Constitution, it was to be representative of all voices, including, if not especially due consideration for the minority. Ugly business, but it’s worked fairly well for most of the nation’s history –
only getting upended when a vocal majority decides to run roughshod over the rest of the people or, when the less noisy, but equally persistent minority gets ignored – hence the civil war because the minority, the anti-slave people, were ignored to the point that once they had a chance to have their voices heard, those who refused to consider their needs, bloodshed ensued.
We are a nation fashioned upon the idea of compromise. Getting harder for people to accept that given that everyone thinks their idea is the only right way to see things, but, it’s still a good system if people would use it.
They don’t, if they stick together on the floor vote. This is why they battle out the choice of their nominee in a private caucus. What we see going on is healthy for a Party because they see how they are actually aligned on the key issues that must be addressed by the Legislature.
It looks to me like PDJT has a lot more support on the key issues than anyone else. Many Repugs need to see that he has a lot more supporters in his own Party than his own Party believes he has.
Understand.
careful about that. it used to take a 2/3 majority for congress to do anything important and the nation and environment were stable and the people propered. do you want a 51% majority to dictate the terms of existence to the 49%?
As a Canadian, we suffer under a Marxist FILTHY LIBERAL “Democracy”, ie-Mob Rule.
The Majority, ( whether its 1 Party, or 2 and 3 Parties put together), as long as they have more votes than your side, they can do what they want.
A Republic is not Democracy, YOU are the King/Queen with Unalienable Rights from GOD. No “Majority” Government can infringe upon them. Period. The fact that they are doing this tells you that you are under a Marxist/Commie Tyranny, Like us in Kanada
2 Things bother me:
2- The Depraved Party is called DEMOCRAT, Not DEMOCRATIC.
2- Stop Electing your FILTHY Senators
3-People who can’t count, live your life and smile 🙂
Yes, it makes my hairs stand on end to hear of “the DEMOCRATIC party, or a DEMOCRATIC candidate, etc. They are simply DEMOCRATS. Enough with the “ic” suffix making them sound somewhat better than they are.
Can’t say that enough.
Democrat is a noun
Democratic is a verb.
Cheers!
I know that I don’t.
Majority = Two wolves and one sheep voting on who is for dinner.
Unless the sheep convinces one of the wolves that its really a wolf in sheep clothing. That is the problem . In order to get the chair, concessions have to be made, promises issued. No wonder the person in that position is so ineffective. You must become one of many and a lot of what you don’t want to be. More or less the answer as to why words are broken. No one wants to admit its a sheep.
In the House of Representatives, ALL members get to vote for the Speaker of the House. That includes Demcommies. Right now, there are 211 of this species of vermin, and they always vote for their own leader. So, if you are a Repug you can afford to have only 5 defections and the Demcommie candidate can be elected. This, not the Repug inability to resolve their differences, would basically hand all of the Government to the Communists. Not a good idea for anyone who is not part of that Club. Unless you relish the idea of losing your job, your property, being sent to re-education camps, and/or just being disappeared from the world.
https://www.usa.gov/agencies/u-s-house-of-representatives
There are 435 House members. Supposedly there are two vacancies and that’s why only 217 are needed for the Speaker, because 217 + 217 = 234 which is less than half. But the broader point is that I’m not sure what you’re complaining about, a simple majority elects the Speaker.