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The Ring of Truth – “I am too well accustomed to the taking of evidence not to detect the ring of truth.” 1908, Edith Wharton
Much has been made of the events of January 6, 2021, and with the latest broadcast of CCTV video from inside the Capitol Hill complex, more questions have been raised.
Within the questions: the FBI and government apparatus had advanced knowledge of the scale of the J6 mall assembly yet doing nothing? Why were the Capitol Hill police never informed of the FBI concerns? Why didn’t House Speaker Nancy Pelosi secure the Capitol Hill complex, and why did she deny the request by President Trump to call up the national guard for security support? Why did the FBI have agent provocateurs in the crowd, seemingly stimulating rage within a peaceful crowd to enter the Capitol building? There have always been these nagging questions around ‘why’?
Long time CTH reader “Regitiger” has spent a great deal of time reviewing the entire process, looking at the granular timeline and then overlaying the bigger picture of the constitutional and parliamentary process itself. What follows below is a brilliant analysis of the federal government motive to create a J6 crisis that permitted House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to trigger an emergency session and avoid the 2020 election certification challenges.
Those congressional floor challenges, known and anticipated well in advance of the morning of January 6, 2021, would have formed a legal and constitutional basis for ‘standing’ in judicial challenges that would have eventually reached the Supreme Court. The certification during “emergency session” eliminated the problem for Washington DC.
Regitiger explains below, only edited by me for clarity and context:
I think most, not all, but a large number of people, are totally missing what happened; and why this happened on Jan 6th. I am going to try my best to outline the events that day, blast past the commonly held assumptions and get right down to the core corruption.
I will present this as a series of questions and answers.
♦ Q1: How do you prevent congress from delaying the certification of state electoral votes?
A: It requires a crisis. A crisis that creates an “emergency” …An “emergency” that invokes special house rules.
FACTS: Remember carefully, focus please. Just moments, literally 3 minutes before two representatives issued a vote for motions to suspend the certification, the House members were “informed” by capitol police and other “agents” that a protest was about to breach the chambers. It was at this time that key people: Pence, Pelosi, Schumer, Mcconnell can be seen being walked out and escorted from the chamber. This effectively halted the Entire Chamber Process.
♦ Q2: Why was it necessary to halt the chamber process?
A: The crisis was created to eliminate the motion challenges to halt the certification and to begin voting to look into voting irregularities and fraud
FACTS: The two motions were completely legal and constitutional under at least two constitutionally recognized procedures… procedures that would REQUIRE the house to pause the certification and then vote to determine whether the motions of suspend could move forward.
♦ Q3: What was so important to refuse this motion and the subsequent votes to suspend the electoral certification?
A: It was important to remove that process entirely and continue the fraud and certify the fraud with no detractors on record. This effectively gives no standing for a SCOTUS ruling appeal! Understand this. If those two motions, even just one had successfully been voted EVEN IF THE MOTIONS were DENIED IN VOTE, this gives those who presented them with STANDING FOR A CONSTITUTIONAL LEGAL ARGUMENT BEFORE SCOTUS.
♦ Q4: Could this have been done some other way other than creating a crisis/protest?
A: Unlikely. In order to prevent those two motions, requires that speaker of the house, minority leaders, and the president of the congress (vice president of the United States: Pence), to NOT BE PRESENT IN THE CHAMBERS.
Once the capitol police and other “law enforcements agents” informed the speaker and these three other individuals, Pelosi UNILATERALLY UNDER EMERGENCY RULES, suspended the business of the congress. This protest was necessary. The crisis was created because there is no other way to suspend the business of certification UNILATERALLY. By creating a crisis invokes emergency procedures. No other circumstances other than war or mass simultaneous explosive diarrhea can create such unilateral speaker delivered suspension of the certification.
♦ Q5: Why did the motions, once that the speaker RECONVENED congress, move forward back again to the floor for votes? Why were members disallowed to even consider putting forward ANY motions to the floor in when the chamber business was reopened?
A: The Speaker initiated the NEW sessions under special emergency rules. These rules abandon and make it clear that the ONLY purpose of the new session was to EXPEDITE the certification and dismiss all prior regular session procedural rules. This is why those two motions to table votes to consider a debate and pause to the certifications of state vote electors never happened later that evening when the house business was reconvened!
♦ Q6: Other than new rules, emergency rules, what other peculiar things occurred when the speaker reconvened?
A: Members were allowed to “vote” in proxy, remotely, not being present. You can use your imagination about what conditions were placed on ALL members during this time to prevent anyone from “getting out of line”.
Also clearly, it was at THIS NEW SESSION that VP Pence, President of Congress, would also have no ability to even consider pausing the electoral certification, because there were no motions of disagreements on the matter. So, in a technical legal claim, he is correct that he had no constitutional authority to address any issues of fraud or doubts about electoral irregularities. But this completely dismisses the FACT that congress created rules in this crisis/emergency that never allowed them to be floored!
Understand what happened in Jan 6, 2021. Don’t get hung up on Viking impostors, stolen Pelosi computers, podium heists, and complicit capitol police. Understand the process and what happened and what WAS NOT ALLOWED TO HAPPEN.
This was a coup….it was a very organized and carefully planned coup. VP Pence without a doubt as well as most members of the house were quite aware of how the certification was going to be MANAGED. It would require new rules to prevent the debate clause from occurring! New rules that ONLY AN EMERGENCY CRISIS COULD CREATE! So, they created an emergency.
•NOTED: I understand why many people have great interest in debunking the j6 event. I get that. I think it is important to dissect and examine the events of that day but please, step back and understand WHY these things happened. Examine the chain of events in congress. Why those two motions that would have at least paused the certification THAT WOULD GIVE VP PENCE THE CONSTITUTIONALLY RECOGNIZED POWER TO MOVE TO SUSPEND THE ELECTORAL CERTIFICATION AND THEN EXAMINE THE IRREGULARITIES AND CLAIMS OF FRAUD!
At the very center of this coup stands Mike Pence, the same individual who also spoiled President Trump’s first opportunities in the earlies hours of his Presidency just 4 years prior, when he created and facilitated the removal of Lt General Michael Flynn. I will not spend much time on this thread explaining why Lt Gen Flynn was so important to President Trump and why the IC was so afraid he would have advisory power to the President. That I will leave for another day, another time. But understand this clearly: MIKE PENCE WAS AND IS WORKING FOR THE MOST CORRUPT CRIMINAL TREASONOUS PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT.
•PRO TIP: If you really want to get a true understanding of this matter videos of protesters walking in the capitol is not going to address them. Actual video and timeline records of events and the specific actions taken by the speaker just moments before TWO MAJOR ELECTORAL ALTERING MOTIONS WERE ABOUT TO BE FLOORED.
This crisis was developed just in time with a precise coordination to prevent those two motions to be entered into the chamber record. The two motions do not exist. The emergency powers established in the new session made sure they never could be entered. The emergency powers could never happen without a crisis.
God Bless America!”
NOTE: “Under this scenario, the J6 pipe bombs were the insurance policy, in the event the feds couldn’t get the crowd to comply with the FBI provocations. If no one stormed the Capitol, the finding of the two pipe bombs would have then been the emergency needed to stop the process.” Which explains why the FBI has no interest in the DC pipe bomb suspects. ~ Sundance
Note from Author: “I started this effort years ago. To date, no one and I mean no one has replied. It’s as if everyone that can expose it that has a larger platform is either disinterested, or suspiciously withdrawn from the issue. I made several comments about this over the years right here at CTH, on article threads that are relevant to the topic.
I was watching the certification live that day. I recorded it ALL on every channel. I was doing this because no matter what happened that day, I KNEW IT WOULD BE A PROFOUND AND SIGNIFICANT EVENT TO REMEMBER. I never in my wildest imagination (and I have a pretty vivid imagination, always have), expected to see the unmistakable perfectly timed “coincidences” that occurred.
One member raises a motion (with another in waiting for his turn) those two motions were well known and advertised. These were motions to vote for a pause in the certification to examine electoral vote fraud and irregularities. I can’t speak to the veracity and substance of those motions. They were never allowed to even be floored. it was at that exact moment that the house chambers were suspended and 4 of the key members, Pence, Pelosi, Schumer and McConnell were escorted OUT right after initiating the end of the session.
Effectively, this resulted in that motion never being floored at all. Then, when reconvened under special emergency rules, inexplicably those two motions (and perhaps more – we will never know – or will we?) were not even attempted to be motioned. That was not just peculiar to me.
It all started to make more sense when I did some study on constitutional law AND THE HISTORY of specific special authorities given to president of the congress, Pence in this case. Not only did he have the authority and power to suspend the certification, but the duty to address the motion in the same sense that it becomes vital to the debate clause.
There really is no higher significance of weight given to the debate clause than the certification of the votes. This was more than odd to me the way that the media and pence framed their narrative: Pence would not have the constitutional power to suspend certification. Then it hit me, like the obvious clue that was there all the time. He was right. But the reason he is right, is because there WAS NO MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO CAUSE HIM TO SUSPEND!
Understanding this, happened for me about 4 or 5 months after this Jan 6 day. I took me this long to examine the facts, look at the video again, compare it to the arguments made by several leading constitutional academics, and again, inexplicably even some that I respect seemed to dodge that central reality. The motions were never allowed to be floored in the re-convened house rules later that evening. Most would not even venture to address the exotically coincidence that the moment those two members would stand to place the motion before the house, that the House Speaker Pelosi AND Pence ended the session, effectively blocking the motions from being heard in normal house rules.
It’s been a journey for me. A journey that was initiated because I am just a simple but curious person. Perhaps even to a point where I get obsessive in those efforts. Many days and nights combing over the details. praying and trying to make sense of what makes little sense. With over 6 states having serious well known and obvious defects in the voting process, some more credible to believe – some less, but one would not expect the house would be so deliberate in marching past the motions that were definitely going to be present to slow this process down and take the time to get it right. Even IF the claims never reached an intersection that would change the outcome.
There are two possibilities: Millions of people, against all the odds, hitting all-time records even past Obama and Clinton, voted for a naval gazing ambulatory pathological racist moron. And chose Joe Malarkey as their leader. Or this was a coup, a conspiracy, and a treasonous manipulation regime change because President Trump could not be controlled by the deep state and globalists who OWN AND OPERATE WASHINGTON DC.
BOTH POSSIBILITIES ARE TERRIFYING.
The only way for THE PEOPLE to gain power in this country is to force the transfer of it. If truth isn’t the fuel and vehicle, we will just be replacing deck chairs and hitting the next series of expected ice bergs.
Knowing the truth is not enough; however, it is truth that makes it a righteous cause.
God Bless America!”
Sundance provides an addendum in support:
Julie Kelly – […] Just as the first wave of protesters breached the building shortly after 2 p.m., congressional Republicans were poised to present evidence of rampant voting fraud in the 2020 presidential election. Ten incumbent and four newly-elected Republican senators planned to work with their House colleagues to demand the formation of an audit commission to investigate election “irregularities” in the 2020 election. Absent an audit, the group of senators, including Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) pledged to reject the Electoral College results from the disputed states.
The Hail Mary effort was doomed to fail; yet the American people would have heard hours of debate related to provable election fraud over the course of the day.
And no one opposed the effort more than ex-Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.).
During a conference call on December 31, 2020, McConnell urged his Republican Senate colleagues to abandon plans to object to the certification, insisting his vote to certify the 2020 election results would be “the most consequential I have ever cast” in his 36-year Senate career.
From the Senate floor on the afternoon of January 6, McConnell gave a dramatic speech warning of the dire consequences to the country should Republicans succeed in delaying the vote. He downplayed examples of voting fraud and even mocked the fact that Trump-appointed judges rejected election lawsuits.
“The voters, the courts, and the States have all spoken,” McConnell insisted. “If we overrule them, it would damage our Republic forever. If this election were overturned by mere allegations from the losing side, our democracy would enter a death spiral.”
Roughly six hours later, McConnell got his way. Cowed by the crowd of largely peaceful Americans allowed into the building by Capitol police, most Republican senators backed off the audit proposal. McConnell, echoing hyperbolic talking points about an “insurrection” seeded earlier in the day by Democratic lawmakers and the news media, gloated. “They tried to disrupt our democracy,” he declared on the Senate floor after Congress reconvened around 8 p.m. “This failed attempt to obstruct Congress, this failed insurrection, only underscores how crucial the task before us is for our Republic.”
Congress officially certified the Electoral College results early the next day. (read more)
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The J6 pipe bombs were the insurance policy, in the event they couldn't get the crowd to comply with the FBI provocations. If no one stormed the Capitol, the finding of the pipe bombs would have been the emergency needed to stop the process. https://t.co/JqVcGROAPN
— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) March 12, 2023
The late great Paul Harveys’ distinctive voice keeps ringing in my ear as I read this skullduggery “And now you know the rest of the story.”
Also, Paul Harvey’s “If I Were the Devil” is brought to mind. These are evil people with no hint of a soul.
….what a display a two of most charming uniparty beauties….turtle should have been ” stewed ” looooooooong time ago….
“Wait until you see what we do to you.”, Nancy Pelosi referring to President Trump said.
i heard it was also reverse -of your first sentence what VSGPDJT seen while she was “out of country “…….realrawnews.com
Read a funny comment today on Nancy demeanor and Trumps him.
Nancy said if she was married to Trump she would poison his coffee.
Trump said if he was married to her he would drink it.
So funny
I would like to see President Trump state this at one of his rallies. It could really be a game-changer.
This ^^^^
Yes, that has been my goal since day 1.
Plus get it to Congress and demand it be read into the record and acted upon.
I have also been sharing it with reps and attorneys of J6ers
Plus anyone on the election integrity realm for further sharing.
They did, they did it, they along with Pence and Schumer stopped Trump and screwed the American people once again so they could keep on ripping the American taxpayer. Those 4 need to be waterboarded and put in jail for treason.
We wouldn’t have known about the following if 45 hadn’t showed us, I for one have seen enough:
fake news
open borders
military is AWOL
war
buyden bribery by china
coup
quid pro quo
Russian pipeline explosion
cv clot-shot mandates
clot-shot murders continue
f_i/c_a coverup for hunted
us gov’t largest human trafficking op in history
the fed interest rates
inflation
ukraine pension payments
5g
15 minute cities
DUMBs, yes they are real
importing millions of illegals and soon their families to VOTE & run-up census in blue states
the list goes on and on, I know I’m missing so many
there is so much I can’t remember them all
cbdc – shortly this is the real precipice…. think logically >>>—>because I have written just this one little missive the goo-BAAL-ists won’t let me buy food, travel, gas, etc.
Excellent, Sundance and regitiger. Just excellent.
So what we now have is a blueprint, precedent if you will, for how “elections” will be conducted in this country going forward.
Not fair, and completely free from scrutiny no matter the corruption which is now embedded within the system.
In short, from now on, every four years, we will not be going to the polls to elect a president.
We will be going to ostensibly “choose” which Uniparty preselected tyrant will rule over us.
And if our “choice ” is not to the Big Club’s liking? We now know there is a “parliamentary” fix for that.
A pox on all their houses.
rope
a sturdy tree branch
publiQ sQuare
Treated lumber
-there’s a lotta them
This is the purpose of all the dramatics of Jan6.
Because the Uniparty want to retain the constructed illusions they are reaching out all over to suppress this kind of conversation. All kinds of weird stuff happened with this post originally. There were 400 comments with eyes being opened and some function; either auto triggered or manual on CTH, trash canned the entire thread. It was reposted a day later and then Sundance pulled it up to a complete individual thread.
The Uniparty has gamed, in a military sense, where the processes that allow them to hold power can be attacked in ways we would never identify up front.
2020 was stolen in front of everyone’s eyes. The red wave of 2022 was defeated in the infinite production of ballots. The only place still fighting is half of the Republican ticket in AZ.
There are trillions at stake and spending millions to map the process matrix and potential intrusion points with new strategies is being done right now BY THE UNIPARTY. DEm and Reps both have their part to play in the new 2024 drama.
We must have a new party or this kind of planned obstruction will win the day..
They unapologetically gamed out J6, and how they would never let the election go to President Trump, no matter what. They did exactly what they told us they would do. It is cited in the Leo Goldstein article I linked here earlier.
Transition Integrity Project
https://www.influencewatch.org/organization/transition-integrity-project
Preventing a Disrupted Presidential Election and Transition
By Transition Integrity Project
3 Aug 2020
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/7013152-Preventing-a-Disrupted-Presidential-Election-and.html#document/p1
Well remembered, Rob, on the number of comments on the original post. I did remember there was a high number but not the final count.
I agree we need a SECOND party, as in truth we have
only one at present.
But as I said to dutch below, this will not be a quickly accomplished thing. Unfortunately.
Eyes have to be opened first; 2020 was just the starter’s pistol. This article and it’s repeat will open more. And I am extremely gratified to see Sundance post it once again and as many times more as it takes.
The monster Geobbels said tell a lie often enough and it will be believed (paraphrased).
Time to take a page out of his book and start telling the TRUTH with facts, over and over and over. In time, we will get the same results.
Please God….
Retitiger pieced together what happened and how important it was to prevent SCOTUS involvement after the fact.
The important part is This was an opp with three letter agency operators and fake bombs to sideline the last chance of the election of Donald Trump. Someone intending to disrupt, gamed this out and put the plans in place. Where is Jim Jordan’s committee in investigating January 6?
Mitch McConnell was just as aware as Nancy Pelosi of any operation that was being put into play.
The uniparty is willing to do anything including including things, we would say right now that are impossible. Something like canceling the election, to make sure Donald Trump is not elected. No individual party is totally responsible for the stop, but the entity that put January 6 on the table has a response for Maga attempting to take control of the republican party.
There has to be actions taken that are outside the calculations of the current norm. I believe the RFK Jr, throwing his hat in the ring is one of those disruption actions. I do not believe he can be bought or controlled.
The establishment of a new party is likewise disruptive. The “it’s too hard” that some like Dutch site is the control for someone gaming control of the new party.
Just remember Epstein didn’t kill himself and only Prince Andrew is outed as a client. Everything on the table is gamed out to their control.
We have to change the playing field.
Betsy,
I would agree this ‘sets a precedent, in many ways.
2020 finally caused many to realise waiting for “the Republicons” to do ANYTHING about election fraud is a “lost cause” as they are fully “in on it”.
Hence the many “grass roots” orgs that stood up after 2020, and began tackling the issue, head on in ALL 50 States, and attacking DIFFERENT aspects OF it,…and this is a GOOD thing.
And SOME are starting to realise that if THIS is “the way the game is played” and if the only rule is “whatever it takes to win” then WE, MAGA need to play by the same rules.
I have referenced Paul Newmon in “the Sting” on “how to beat a cheater” but another PN movie is perhaps also appropriate” Butch Cassidy, when getting into a knife fight.
“First, lets discuss the rules”.
“Rules? there aren’t any RULES in a knife fight!”
PN kicks his opponent in the fork saying ‘I agree’.
There AIN’T NO RULES, and 2024 is a KNIFE FIGHT; one side wins, and one side is DEAD.
so lets STOP pissing and moaning about “the other side isn’t playing fair, its a rigged system” and kick them in the fork, gouge their eye out, bite their nose off, and fight like the 3 rd monkey, CAUSE WE ARE.
Never play by the enemies rules lest you be forever comprised — the devil is even now champing at the bit to count how many souls he is stealing from Christ; don’t let yours be among them.
I say to all.
Your life will someday be demanded of you by God. You never know when. Be prepared. No earthly struggle is worth handing over your soul to the prince of evil. You think we have it bad now? Wait until you feel hell’s heat.
And you’d give up the place prepared for you in heaven? For that?
Bad bargain.
“compromised”
grrr
Too many are shortsighted and can’t get the long game into focus. Nor do they want to rock the boat.
There will be gnashing of teeth, and plenty of it.
My view, dutch, is that you are a fighter. You’ve proved it many times in your comments.
As for rules…
I’ve come to believe the right side of the ambidextrous Uniparty could, if they truly wanted, play as dirty as the left when it comes to elections.
Heck! We know they play dirty enough to protect their self righteous sinecures. Heaven forfend they don’t protect those from the electorate who have in good faith placed them in their positions.
It is clear to me that they simply do not want to be in power…unless it’s one of their own. It’s too much like hard work. And it takes ethics and morals which they have none of. Their sweet, sweet gig…acting in tandem with the Dems behind closed doors while making all the right outrageous fake noises for the plebs back home..suits them just fine.
Boat rockers they are not as far as their own situations are involved. I wish it were otherwise, but my feeling is they not only have a “Members Only” on the entrance to their Club; they’ve come to believe they are the sole proprietors of this country. And the rest of us are bothersome tenants they really wish they could evict.
So yes…having said that, however we do it, we have to disabuse them of their hubris and work hard to kick their well padded behinds out of office. Something which will not be accomplished in one election cycle. But we have to start somewhere.
Now that we see them for what they are and have been for decades, we best get started. Cheers to you, my friend.
Get smart, head them off at the pass – but the only way to win is legally. They know the tricks and will call them out if the other side uses them.
The Lord says that if we repent and turn from our wicked ways, He will heal our land. So few repent…
I think about this, BFAW every night when I say my evening prayers.
I would prefer you use the subjunctive mood rather than the indicative mood.
But otherwise — it does appear that the trajectory for our Constitutional Republic is on shaky ground at best.
Sadly, (now eye’s wide open) we’ve been doing that/this much longer than most realize. Once in the uni-party, at some early point in their “election”/arrival to DC (if not prior), they become compromised. I’ve thought about this for quite awhile. I think about the politicians who ended-up resigning because of some “scandal” they become involved in. Many I’m sure disgraced themselves, few tried to stand their ground, many just took the money and did as they were told. But this isn’t just about the individual, we are getting only a small glimpse behind the curtain, and few of us realize the horror’s perpetrated by those behind the scenes. I’m thinking of all the missing children over the years. The info is out there (like the Franklin Scandal) as just one example. The populations of most countries is made-up of good hard working people. People who have a belief that most humans are also basically just like them. People who just can’t believe what extremes some will perpetrate on the weak and defenseless. It’s is what the demonic use against us, are disbelief in those who do the worst. The awakening is upon us, but so far this is only a very small glimpse.
I place blame on many in the R party for where we are.
But I place the most on those cowardly R congressmen and women who resigned their positions midway through President Trump’s first term, thus leaving their seats vulnerable to being switched to Dems, which is what happened. Thus satan’s hand maiden Pelosi Speaker.
From that came all the accusations and impeachments and sabotage of President Trump’s agenda.
It did occur to me that Paul Ryan made them all draw lots to see which ones would “be spending more time with their families”. Either that or he assigned resignations. But however it was decided the effect was devastating for our country.
And it is for those cowards that I reserve my utmost disgust.
As for your observation that most of us can’t imagine that others could be so evil (my word), I think these past two horrid years should have disabused them of thinking the best of those others who have ripped off their human skin suits and shown us all exactly what they are.
I believe those people (if that’s what they are) don’t need curtains any more, Rob. They may have on a upon a time. Now?
Hubris will, I pray, bring nemesis. It always has, and given (God’s) time, it will be the same again.
By the way…for those who refuse to look.
Last night on my ride home from work I was listening to Levin giving a pretty impassioned argument disputing a biased article about “fake electors” and I remembered this same article on CTH a couple of months back and found myself yelling at the radio! Of course this perceptive article needs to go as viral as can humanly be. Thanks again for reposting Sundance!
Kudos, again to regitiger, and to Sundance.
This is the crowdsourcing that as I understand it was the original concept of Sundance, for this site.
And to regitiger, not only for the research, but for the stubborn detirmination to not give up, and keep screaming until being heard.
This sight has LOTS of views, it is the center of the rebel alliance, and I have seen regitigers analyses both referenced on TGP and on AmericaThinker, so it is definetly “out there” and can not be memory holed, ever.
And The New Americanist, Lew Rockwell, Gates of Vienna (whose Baron Bodissey is a huge admirer of Sundance’s), and Zerohedge to add another four.
Sundance’s reputation for in-depth, sound analysis is gaining wide audiences as time goes on.
I expect this thread to receive even more coverage. It’s so good, it needs all the sunlight it can get.
The most important thing, IMHO, is that none of us, maybe 100+ million strong, ever forget. And we teach it to our children and grandchildren.
#rebelalliance
Levin doesn’t like SD/CTH, but will use his stuff a few weeks after SD does it.
Levin is a snake!!!
Purpose is to deflect.
He’s the back bencher.
I look at Levin and his ilk in the same category as that seventeenth letter online character – lull people into assuming something, by someone, is being done; pure unadulterated deep state misdirection. Why people still pay attention to these posers is a mystery.
Just got done forwarding article to friends and they will forward it on.
We can do our part to help it go viral by forwarding it to everyone we know, posting to all social media sites we can and then we talk about it, talk about it, talk about it in our comments on those sites!
Never let a crisis go to waste. If you need a crisis, create one.
Awesome work Bob! Red-pilling the Yahoo brain dead …..
https://news.yahoo.com/jan-6-convict-tells-truth-040929978.html
Being in a cult is drinking the Koolaid that a rushed EUA non-vaccine that they had hidden test results for 75 years on was safe and effective and you go and take it, sometimes multiple times, because the cult leader said to.
Or locking down your home and business for two plus years, masking up, canceling school and church and outdoors.
Beating your population, fining and jailing them if they dissent.
This from heavyweight boxing champion and MAGA extraordinaire Mike Tyson: “Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.”
Just wait until the treasonous co-conspirators take one on the chin.
Mike Pence, per Article 2, did not have to ‘open’ the certificates. Yes, it would have been viewed as a political move, but…
I just checked Article 2 of the Constitution, and it does not say that the “President of the Senate does not have to open the certificates.” It says the opposite, without stating anything about an option to refuse to open the certificates:
“The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all of the Certificates, and the votes shall then be counted.” I failed to find any reference to the President of the Senate refusing to open the certificates. The word “shall” is indicative of there not being any reason to not perform the function described. That doesn’t mean that there cannot be OBJECTIONS to the slate of Electors for a given State’s certificate. There can be through the Electoral Count Act, but such Objections can only be considered if in writing and signed by no less than one House member and one Senator.
“That doesn’t mean that there cannot be OBJECTIONS to the slate of Electors for a given State’s certificate. There can be through the Electoral Count Act, but such Objections can only be considered if in writing and signed by no less than one House member and one Senator.”
And we had this. But Nan-Xi and Mitch were not going to let debate happen.
I never said there couldn’t be any objections. Just the opposite. Objections are brought by House members and Senators. They have to be in writing and signed by no less than one House member and one Senator.
However, the Vice President was never given the authority of deciding what should be done with those objections. That is covered in the Electoral Count Act as the Senate retiring to their chambers to debate and vote while the House remains in their chambers to do the same. It is the CONGRESS that determines the fate of Objections and also any Main Motions, which are matters also resolved by Congress and not the Vice President acting Unilaterally.
And here we are… two and half years into Resident Biden’s Reign of Error. And I have more disdain for the party I have voted for in every election since my first eligible election in 1982. I have convinced my elderly mother to STOP sending any political donations to any Republican party affiliated group. Directly to candidates she knows personally is all I encourage her to support.
A traitor is much worse than an enemy. I consider the R’s traitors. D’s are known enemies. Thanks to the tireless work of Sundance the R’s are now known enemies as well.
The term Resident is used purposefully as I’ve used it since 1/6/21.
One of the most disturbing write-ups I’ve seen here. And now the process is understandable too.
I’m sickened.
I just can’t imagine what is up these people have prepared for Trump if he makes it to the general.
We found the pipe bombs found detonated?
the pipe bombs were built to NOT explode. that was just another false flag, 1 of many
Not, not detonated and in all likelyhood could not be detonated.
It was a RUSE, and very easy to fake.
Correct, but in a different scenario, what would prevent the same parties from activating them – real instead of being a ruse? Desperate situations – desperate measures.. I would not put it past the thugs behind the coup of 2020
Q: was Pence advised to go along with D purposes or was he trusted insider enough to be also part of the game with knowledge ahead of time?
Remember Brutus, of Julius Caesar fame? Pence IS Brutus. Yet, Brutus was never a willing participant as much as Pence was from the start. Just like that possum – Jeff Sessions. It was ALL intended to stop Trump and his agenda and fully supported by the Republicans surrounding him.
that footnote has not been written yet.
with all the mis/dis info from both sides, who the heQ knows….
He was in on it.
Pence is not worthy of any excuses whatsoever. You don’t survive in politics that long without knowing the game. He knew. He was a willing participant to the coup. He is not deserving of even our attention. He needs to get out of politics and repent.
The most definitive explanation of the “coup” that has brought ruin to our country. Thank you Regitiger and Sundance. An absolute must read by all citizens.
Ev eryone MUST share this liberally, pun intended….
ON EVERY PLATFORM
A coup by the deep state was occurring, using a fake insurrection as cover.
Paul Manfort: CIA Asset?
https://www.unian.info/politics/2370118-manafort-had-a-whole-separate-shadow-government-structure-in-ukraine-the-atlantic.html
If Manafort was a CIA asset, why didn’t he “turn” on PDJT, like Cohen and “offer” false testimony against “Trump”?
Why the whole “Black ledger” intel-op against Manafort?
Sorry, I ain’t buying it.
They were DESPERATE for someone, anyone “associated with Trump” to “turn states evidence” against PDJT, and IF Manafort was a CIA asset, to have “burned him” without using him to give false testimony would have been a wasted effort to no good end (for THEM).
The FBI had Manafort cold on white collar crimes as early as 2008 when the FBI warned McCain not to hire Manafort for his campaign for President. Just like Clinton could be turned into a CIA asset after getting kicked out of Oxford and losing his student deferment (Clinton spent months behind the Iron Curtain that year for the CIA and later participating in Iran-Contra for William Barr, who ran the scheme on the ground in Arkansas).
In the article I pointed to, and this one that follows, we see Manafort constantly being debriefed at the US embassy in Kiev, while the Obama White House and Hillary Clinton State Department had the ground prepared for the Orange Revolution to overthrow the regime in which Manafort had the power to install his own people inside the Ukrainian bureaucracy. The CIA and State Department would naturally notice Manafort in that role in Ukraine. They had the FBI’s work to use as leverage as well. When Mueller prosecuted, they had either no further use for him, or it was their way of kicking him loose, retiring him.
Again, it wasn’t Trump who picked Pence. It was Paul Manafort. For some reason, Trump went along with Manafort. Who knows why, but it was Manafort’s decision to put Pence in the VP position.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2020/08/25/now_a_russian_spy_kilimnik_traded_info_with_obama_officials_521276.html#
Nice research and analysis.
Gives pause.
I wonder about Bannon sometimes also.
Something else to note was the extreme importance of having and maintaining control of the House of Representatives so that Pelosi as Speaker could pull this off. Were all the Republicans who “stepped down” in 2018 in on this?
If so, the list of traitors might be a lot longer than we thought.
“Were all the Republicans who “stepped down” in 2018 in on this?”
Evidence is needed to prove that. We don’t have any. Perhaps if Trump had declassified the Trump-Russia documents, that might have helped, because with Mueller “investigating,” and leaking, especially indicting Manafort in December 2017, followed by more indictments, it was made to look as if it could be real. Declassifying and publishing those documents might changed things. We just don’t know.
Wasn’t it the Kushners who promoted Pence to PDJT?
I was under the impression the first daughter (Ivanka) and her hubby were all in for Mike Pence. Their reasoning was Pence would attract the needed religious voters. I think their reasoning was sound.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/do-we-remember-that-manafort-pick-pence
It was Manafort.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/do-we-remember-that-manafort-pick-pence
I agree.
“This was a coup….it was a very organized and carefully planned coup. VP Pence without a doubt as well as most members of the house were quite aware of how the certification was going to be MANAGED. It would require new rules to prevent the debate clause from occurring! New rules that ONLY AN EMERGENCY CRISIS COULD CREATE! So, they created an emergency.”
Traitors!
They knew Trump would be vocal and challenge it. Who wouldn’t!
I hope Pence and the others die in agony when their time comes.
I hear Hell is hot.
He will know what hell is like now that he has thrown his hat in the ring to be an anklebiter 1%er for 2024, as they all will. It will eat away at what little remains of their humanly souls.
I will celebrate every denial of the evil Judas Pence, breaker of The Ten Commandments.
Should this most excellent analysis of the J6 coup reach those in Congress who have the best interest of the nation in mind, if nothing else were to occur, drag Judus Pence in front of a committee, put him under oath, and drill him re what he knew of the coup before it occurred. Love to see that deep state rino have to lie under oath to keep him from exposing himself as the phoney traitor he is.
I agree 100% with the ORG.
I have no confidence that Cruz and those organising the move to motion for a “pause” didn’t KNOW, and hence knew their motion was not going anywhere.
Allowed Cruz, Hawley and others to LOOK ‘good’ to us MAGA.
On top of this treason outlined above, the SCOTUS ruling today. The court can overrule the state election law.
But where were the high mighty courts when Texas sued before the Supreme Court? They hid under their damn robes, while America was destroyed.
That was the point that a lot of people came to the realization that the constitutional republic of the USA was finished, that elections are a complete farce. We lost it with that non-decision. Now there is only one viable option: #NationalDivorce.
The Texas Nationalist Movement is leading that effort in Texas.
texitnow org
tnm me
Everyone in Texas should go to the website and sign the petition to put a referendum question on the primary ballots for Texas independence.
The ship is sinking, and it is time to “man the lifeboats”.
I’m all for manning the lifeboats, but I’m not for making that a public affair. Everyone is free to do as they wish, until they can’t.
Which makes it an urgent matter to do so while we still can.
We do not have forever.
Do NOT StOp there
Every city, county, state and federal entity is corrupt along with the unelected bureaucracy
You’re not kidding, John. It’s so dismaying to see what has become of rock-solid Arizona. We’re shot through with corruption, right down to the local level. Maricopa County is no better than the mob.
If it’s going on here, it’s going on everywhere. “Public servants” everywhere serve only themselves. Criminals all.
They should have never allowed union to take control of the government work force. That alone guarantees a collectivist crop of Dems.
Frankly, a lot of election law, wriyten over the last 10-20 years by State legislatures,….sucks.
This was an effort that preceded Marc Elias’s efforts to change laws for Covid.
It was a nationwide effort to put into place severe roadblocks to make it extremely difficult the succesfully challenge election results; it was a PRE-EMPTIVE move by the CHEATERS, to insure they would be successful.
So, I got no problem with keeping open the possibility if challenging State election laws put in place by legislatures.
The frantic determination to silence claims of widespread fraud in the 2020 election is itself proof that fraud did in fact occur. The Uniparty Establishment wouldn’t be so frightened if they knew the claims were bogus.
Nor would they send out Elias and friends to fight audits. Audit is exactly what would prove the stolen election crowd wrong. Sadly, we know the audit outcome would be a disaster for those who benefitted the most in this case.
wow.
we need multiple peeps to text this to Tucker Carlson… or tweet him if you’re on twitter.
why
tuck is controlled opposition
.
full stop
Am taking Tucker one episode at a time; as time will tell exactly who, what he wants to grow up to be.
I would just add this gives context to the video of the buffaloe horned protester being escorted by multiple officers, who seem to be trying to find an unlocked door, to get him INTO the Capital chambers.
He was picked out, BECAUSE of his outrageous costume, and they wanted to shove him thru the doors IN ORDER TO give an EXCUSE for shutting it down.
Would be interesting to study the timeline of that operation, and police radio communications as well.
With that costume, just getting him into the chamber, is all the excuse they would need.
It is undeniable – the Capitol Police and the FBI agent provocateurs tried very hard to get the crowd to storm the Capitol. They were frustrated by the reticence of the people to do so, and eventually they had to just open the doors and invite them in.
After hitting them with flash bangs over and over.
Assuming, Hoping , rettiger has analyzed exact coordinated timelines to the minute of all events inside and outside, this proves there were no coincidences
the timeline matches up…and not just with viking…but ALL of the events that ultimately triggered a gavel termination of the regular session…right at the very moment when the FIRST MEMBER OF CONGRESS rose to enter a motion to suspend the certification and vote on debate over election irregularities and fraud. THAT TIMING was not coincidental nor can THAT BE EXPLAINED AS RANDOM. It was perfectly timed at that moment. All events that led up to it were simply necessary to create the illusion that congress had to immediately deal with a crisis and transfer to an emergency session ruled certification.
there has never been anything like this happened in congress, outside of war. The debate clause is so fundamental to our constitution…a bedrock…even in times of great peril….there is always a debate over what actions to take.
what happened on J6 was a well planned coordinated coup: to strip the people of it’s power!
All of the evidence PROVES this happened.
the thing I want people to recognize is this also: we have not heard a single complaint from the members who had planned to motion to suspend for vote and debate on the irregularities….there are only a few explanations for this…and none of them are good. I would really like an investigative reporter to sit down with each and every member who had motions planned and asked them directly: why did you NOT motion for votes to debate the irregularities in the secret, proxy, emergency session? who told you that you could not?
God Bless America
correct…and even if the viking never happened, they had plenty of other created visual actors to pull it off at just the right time…the trunk bomb…firearms within the glowy embeds…simple violence by the capitol police…tear gas…the murder of ashley …and probably dozens of other “incidents” that were planned to achieve the end goal.
I looked at this ..how I approached it: why were the motions not floored in the emergency session? Was it true that pence had no constitutional power to delay certification to take up the debate clause….THAT is how I approached the research…it was so obvious to me and anyone who was paying attention to the serious defects in the voting from nearly every single state..to expect that at least a few members of congress would force a vote…at least a vote on these issues.
none happened.
Would it have made a difference?
well, the answer that question is difficult…I do not know is the honest answer. But that it never happened is far more troubling to me than what would have been the result if it had happened.
(similarly, we see this same kind of corruption wrt durham, barr, wrap, garland, bragg: ..it’s not what a criminal in DC DOES…it is what they REFUSE TO DO)
God Bless America
God Bless America
Good job regitiger.
My only input is that this is the (x ) number of coup actions. It is of course the most desperate one and closely ties to 2020 obvious steal
The original Russia Russia was the other most significant in my mind.
The removal of Flynn and stabbing in the back of the new administration has to be high on the list.
The patriot act has got to have place…..
Obummer.
Never ending actions going back at least 23 years
Pence in charge of pandemic belongs also.
Excellent presentation Regitiger – just EXCELLENT.
Thank-you.
MAGA
The thing couldn’t withstand legit scrutiny, so no debate, no discovery period, no future discovery. Courts everywhere we’re free to continue shutting down debate on standing while the larger media simply shouted insurrection, courts have ruled and conspiracy theorists.
Again, coordinated massively by people who have been doing it overseas for decades.
Pence, as a professing Christian, should have been familiar with the story of Daniel and his friends who served Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon. They did not share the king’s views and ambitions but were prepared to serve faithfully as long as they were not forced to go against their loyalty to God. I cannot understand why Pence did not seek to follow his example but allign himself with people (or assist them) who were out to undermine the president.
I cannot understand why Pence did not…
Standing in a garage does not make one a car.
There is a massive difference in professing and practicing.
Pence is a compromised lying poseur, that’s why!
Pence has always been ambitious and an elitist. The church is a cultural thing to many people. He is serving his god – the government system.
Every time I see a photo of the crowd on January 6th I remember where we stood and look for someone from our group.
Found Waldo in this photo, but I won’t say where or who.
This was a very impactful post for me when it originally went up. 🤯. Good that it is back for another round!
Retigiter hit the nail on the head. Besides being in the tree house for a long time I still find great analysis of the situations presented by the comments. Readers here enjoy sunlight.
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When was Dr. Paul Gosar censured?
Far sooner than Adam Schiff.
One got censured for telling the truth, another for lying.
Dr. Gosar DID register a complaint wrt AZ election in the chambers that day, yet whatever he did present has been memory holed (due to that censure?) . . .
Probably what is even more disgusting and disturbing is the fact that the House Reps and Senators in the know of the machinations of how parliamentary procedure work, afterward said nothing about any of this; some even going so far (looking at my senators of Blackburn and Haggerty) as feigning outrage of how dare US citizens walk into their houses. Blackburn went so far as to be caught crying on TV in a moment of (solace/sarc). They are all up there, hands over their mouths, ears and eyes, pretending it’s business as usual.
Retiger and Sundance, you are phenomenal thinkers, and I am thankful to God Almighty for people like you. 🙏
Graham said “Lock them up, and throw away the key!” and you just KNOW he was “in on it”.
Special place in hell reserved for Graham.
John “Let’s see him make America great again now”
awaits him; keeping his place real hot.
Yes. Extremely disappointed in our “representatives”. Is there not a man or real woman among them?
This is not “just politics”.
Agreed. Disgusting behavior. That’s why Gaslighting is abuse.
Maybe I read Regitiger’s analysis here because I know I read this somewhere…I remember how startling it was and how it all made sense. Or did someone else also have this understanding….the timing of everything so perfect. Anyway, perfect sense, perfect truth..thanks!
(And to this day, Trump keeps saying that Pence is a nice guy. Pence is a treasonous snake).
Pretty sure Regitiger gets ALL the credit, for figuring this out, none of us saw it, but him.
Someone has a link below to TGP article by Joe Hoft…same thing I guess. I haven’t checked it out yet; will do.
TGP piece is based on Treehouse. I see, this piece was published here before, in March, and several picked up on that. So, I read it here before.
And yet, as Sundance stated, none of the larger platforms will pick it up.
And we know from the first posting that this info was sent and/or viewed by a multitude of these larger media platforms.
What does that tell you about all of them, including Bannon? Who was, btw this past Sunday, insufferable with his exclamations and his guests regarding the Wagner ‘mutiny’ story and discussions.
the credit belongs to everyone here at conservative treehouse. All of it.
I would have never even bothered…would have never cared to be curious…would have never put a single effort into pursuing this at all… But I did because over the last several years…going way back…little by little…I was influenced by the work integrity of Sundance and the many treepers here at the last refuge who fellowship here in the practice of telling the truth. And most of the big ugly takes A LOT OF EFFORT to investigate and thresh the wheat from the chaff. I’m an average person. I possess no special skill and do not have letters behind my name. Will never have some authority recognized. What I found is none of those things matter> If you are persistent and you pray daily…you get motivated.
my motivation has a source: Team Last Refuge- all of YOU!
The key is to be willing to recognize that no one is going to do it. So you have to own it…and also be honest enough that some leads and ideas are just not complete and are best left in the burn pile. (I have lots of burn pile days….but every so often…the effort pays off…and you can get to a truth that stands up to scrutiny).
I will just end with this, as I have stated before…and to respond to some here and other before who have expressed doubts:
this work is UNFINISHED…It is INCOMPLETE. It’s not so much that I have ended the project…I have simply hit my limit knowing that any further work would require the efforts of others to continue it on. So to others who are skeptical…I recommend that you take up the work and run with it. I do stand by the work however, even in its incomplete form. The best way I can describe this incomplete work: while small details are missing and a broader context may be too narrow, it best describes the truth of that day and how it came to be that no debates happened over the fraudulent certification of presidential votes. There is no other way to explain it. Other ways to explain it, that do not include these facts are precisely why our power as citizens was stolen. Congress did that. And how they did it, was very obvious.
lastly: you would have never heard about this article, if SUNDANCE AND ADREM had not made the decision. And for that, I am greatly appreciative. It happened within 24 hours after I requested it be published.
Thank you AD REM! Thank you Sundance.!
God Bless America
I also remember how startling it all was. There were flashbangs thrown outside to rile the crowd, and Pence’s timing of his announcement that he would do nothing was another kind of flashbang. The timing was impeccable.
Eh, I don’t care what Trump says about him. Trump is calculating. He has a reason for what he says.
WE know Pence is a snake and he doesn’t get to hide behind Nancy’s skirt or pantsuit.
mike pence is the mitt romney of wander.
he needs to be boo’d where he thinks he is still popular.
Wow…an oldie I remember…what I don’t remember is the sounds of war at the end….
Well, there’s always “The Charm School in Joliet”.
Make tarring and featheing a thing, again.
And, throwing rotten eggs and veggies at “public officials” that violate the public trust.
Yep coup right down to having Liz Cheney on the committee.
you speak the truth. now, what are we gonna do about it?
I would start by turning off the war in Ukraine channel. a.k.a. fake news..
Maybe defense would want to somehow include retigers analysis in testimony during jack smiths upcoming j6 indictment.
Yet we’re still hanging around the republican party thinking things are going to change.
Please clarify who “we” in your “we’re” is. It doesn’t include me.
I withdrew my name from the Republican party rolls a little over three years ago, in April of 2020.
I ain’t.
Was it the Gosar Motion or Objection that was not allowed to go forwards and be voted on in the 9 PM Emergency Session? Exactly which motion or by put forward whom are we talking about here?
it was the moment Pence was announced as VP…
45 made some doozy picks for cabinet…
I think that most of those “picks” were “gotten to” by the deep state. It is not possible that so many could turn on Him. Trump is a movement and we see all the forces that have conspired to eliminate Trump and His agenda – Not that Trumps judgement was flawed.
“One member raises a motion (with another in waiting for his turn) those two motions were well known and advertised. These were motions to vote for a pause in the certification to examine electoral vote fraud and irregularities. I can’t speak to the veracity and substance of those motions. They were never allowed to even be floored. it was at that exact moment that the house chambers were suspended and 4 of the key members, Pence, Pelosi, Schumer and McConnell were escorted OUT right after initiating the end of the session.
“Effectively, this resulted in that motion never being floored at all. Then, when reconvened under special emergency rules, inexplicably those two motions (and perhaps more – we will never know – or will we?) were not even attempted to be motioned. That was not just peculiar to me.”
There were two objections. One was the Gosar objection to Arizona’s electors. That one was debated in the separate House and Senate chambers and was defeated in both.
The second objection was to Pennsylvania’s electors. It was debated in the separate House and Senate chambers with votes in both rejecting the objection overwhelmingly. Senate vote was 92-7.
This should give everyone some flavor about how the vote would have gone on any Main Motion to suspend the Electoral Vote Count in order to investigate allegations of fraud in some of the elections.
This is the most plausible explanation of what happened on 1/6 I have seen. Please all who think Mike Pence is a devout Christian rethink your opinion of this traitorous man, who now runs for President.
Piglosi and Mitch look absolutely giddy. They successfully orchestrated a coup. TREASON.
I have absolutely no doubts whatsoever that it was/is the second possibility – coup!!!!! Thought that from Day One, even before you and Regi gave the evidence.
No truer words ever have I read on this site of all of the issues, sub-issues and tangents to the ‘politics’ discussed and debated here is greater in TRUTH & IMPACT, imo, that those you prosed near the end of this post:
“……. not be controlled by the deep state and globalists who OWN AND OPERATE WASHINGTON DC.” (Inc). The capitalization of those particular words is apropos.
I realize that what I am going to expound upon, AGAIN, is going to sound like a tiresome broken record, but I will continue every time I see the ‘strings of the marionette’ brought up here to emphasize the point.
Deep State – Fourth Branch = I/C community, which regardless of the hierarchy on paper, the controlling agency thru extortion, threats, bribery and intimidation is the CIA! All others are subservient.
Globalists – all multinational corporations, financial institutions, down stream banks, sovereign treasuries, WEF, CFR, Trilateral Commission, Club of Rome, Bilderbergers, etc etc answer in the end to the private CENTRAL BANKING SYSTEMs, most likely still under the control of the NY Fed & London.
Trump knows what the deal is and will destroy them and they know that. THAT IS WHY THEY FEAR HIM!!!
That is why We the People have to get Trump back into office while there are any legitimate means to do so.
My original words concerning the 2024 election were (and have seen Sundance say the same thing): THIS ONE IS FOR ALL THE MARBLES!!!!
God Bless You All!!
You are right.
Musk and Zuck are working on a cage fight.
Might I suggest Mike Flynn challenge mindy from indy for the undercard fight.
Thank you Regitiger, and Sundance.
Current circumstances break my heart, but I am always grateful to those who can break things down into digestible parts.
My email list will be getting links!
cliff notes >>>>——–>
hence [m. pence] is either a very tough skinned white hat working WITH 45
OR
he is a traitor that needs some rope applied with prejudice…. along with the other 535 installed, 9 appointed and All the dam unelected bureaucrats.
Why J6 Happened
12th Amendment
Amendment XII
The electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;–The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;–the person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President. The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
20th Amendment
Amendment XX
Section 1.
The terms of the President and Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January, and the terms of Senators and Representatives at noon on the 3d day of January, of the years in which such terms would have ended if this article had not been ratified; and the terms of their successors shall then begin.
Section 2.
The Congress shall assemble at least once in every year, and such meeting shall begin at noon on the 3d day of January, unless they shall by law appoint a different day.
Section 3.
If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.
Section 4.
The Congress may by law provide for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the House of Representatives may choose a President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them, and for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the Senate may choose a Vice President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them.
Section 5.
Sections 1 and 2 shall take effect on the 15th day of October following the ratification of this article.
Section 6.
This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several states within seven years from the date of its submission.
from a constitutional history reference, there have been two cases where certification of presidential votes were suspended to conduct debates. I am not alleging those debates caused a difference in the outcomes of who would become president. But if you look closely at both cases, there were definitely some major league powers involved that SHAPED THIS NATION.
failing to debate the obvious defects of the voting fraud and irregularities is inconsistent with history is what I am saying. If there is one primary purpose of the debate clause…it is to realize that presidential certifications are of the utmost priority and not to be treated as simply ceremonial.
nothing on that day of infamy j6 was normal. It was a well organized coup to defraud american voters from choosing the president they believed in.
God Bless America
The 12th Amendment does not specify anything that the President of the Senate (Pence) could do to change anything. All it describes are Congressional authority to count the votes, and how the House of Representatives would vote by States (1 vote per State) to determine President in case of a deadlock. The only mention of the Vice President receiving any authority would be as an acting President if one was not chosen prior to the original March date for the inauguration of a new President. Everything else is Congress alone having any authority regarding the certification of the Electoral vote.
Besides Julie Kelly’s totally independent support of this, there are several others who came to the same conclusion, some before based on other citations, and some after based on Sundance’s article:
NOT Trump but Democrats were interested in violent disruption of J6 joint session
By Leo Goldstein
26 Jun 2022
https://defyccc.com/not-trump-but-dems-were-interested-in-violent-disruption-of-j6-joint-session3
EXPLOSIVE: The 2020 Election Steal Required an “Emergency” on Jan 6 to Complete the Coup
By Joe Hoft
14 Mar 2023
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/03/explosive-the-2020-election-steal-required-an-emergency-on-jan-6-to-culminate-the-coup
How Pelosi Stopped the Jan. 6, Electoral College Count and Installed Biden
By Harold Pease, Ph.D.
22 Mar 2023
https://libertyunderfire.org/2023/03/how-pelosi-stopped-the-jan-6-electoral-college-count-and-installed-biden
Here is the link and name of Julie’s article which references this as a part of Mitch McConnel’s book:
McConnell’s ‘Exhilarating’ Insurrection
When it comes to January 6, there are no coincidences.
By Julie Kelly
29 Apr 2022
https://amgreatness.com/2022/04/28/mcconnells-exhilarating-insurrection
So this is five separate articles including the collaborative Retiger/Sundance article:
REMINDER – The Parliamentary Motive Behind the J6 Fedsurrection
By Sundance
27 Jun 2023
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/06/27/reminder-the-parliamentary-motive-behind-the-j6-fedsurrection
I am recommending that WE ALL REPORT THESE HERE:
Excellent! GOP Rep Bryan Steil Announces New J6 Investigation and Whistleblower Tip Portal
By Jim Hoft
11 Mar 2023
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/03/excellent-gop-rep-bryan-steil-announces-new-j6-investigation-and-whistleblower-tip-portal
You know what to do. Get busy!
Capitol Security Info – Portal Submission
http://cha.house.gov/contact/capitol-security-info-portal-submission
So important . . . awesome to me when I first read it here, regitiger’s moment-by-moment, logical analysis of WHY things were occurring WHEN they did.
There players should be put on trial for treason. If found guilty, they need to be executed.
A couple of days after 1/6, I checked the Congressional Record to see whether Pence (as President of the Senate) discharged his required constitutional duty to ask whether there were any objections to the report by the Electoral College. I read it slowly and carefully, twice. The question was never asked. However, the Record does record, that despite the “emergency,” when the assembly reconvened, the usual pontificators (e.g., McConnell, Shumer, etc.) were lined up to condemn what had happened and to blame Trump and republicans/conservatives in general. Disgusting.
Thank you. Very good expose.
Regitiger great job.
Thank you Sundance.
Electors from the 50 states are chosen according to the laws passed by each state’s legislature. This PDF file from the National Association of Secretaries of State (NASS) contains all the states’ rules for the choosing of slates of Electors for the candidates for President. There is another where you can click on the state’s name and the rules pop up.
https://www.nass.org/sites/default/files/surveys/2017-08/research-state-laws-pres-electors-nov16.pdf
“81 million votes”
He must drive his security detail nuts:)
The fateful day before the late corrupt, degenerate perverse rètàrdèd homosexual pedo Joey Shitferbrainz Biden began cooling a morgue slab somewhere:
I’m not buying what’s being sold on this thread
Left out of this discussion is that Trump himself asked for and enthusiastically supported, the demonstration to take place on January 6th. That would mean he was instrumental in causing the “coup attempt.” to take place.
Moreover, what the poster is, in effect, saying is that if Trump had not asked for the demonstration, and no demonstration had taken place, then no emergency would have existed. In which case the vote for an election “pause” would have taken place
Would an “election pause” vote actually have passed? No.
IMO, too much imagination cobbles together a conspiracy based on too few, selective facts.
C-
clean-up need on this aisle
Uh huh
-💩 itself at the dollar store
The J5 & J6 event(s) were absolutely not set up by President Trump, nor did he ask for them. He did not even decide to speak at the Ellipse event (one of many scheduled that day) it until the 3rd or 4th.
The breach/coup unfolded before President Trump even finished speaking.
The point was to stop/end all legitimate debate, and we had the votes for plenty of that, both House and Senate. That was accomplished by the FEDSURRECTION and emergency rules were put in place by Nan-Xi when they reconvened and no debate allowed. Dirty Joe was installed.
“..J6 event(s) were absolutely not set up by President Trump..”
Remember this tweet Trump made 12/30/2020 ?
I was paying attention at the time and Trump was telling everyone to do a peaceful protest.
There is no doubt in my mind he wanted people in DC.
Should he have backed off and let Congress handle it? Knowing him, wasn’t going to happen.
Ray Epps’ timing as instigator is tough to reconcile with this silliness, no?
Add to that they had exactly four years to plan this coup, and it started with their FINAL INSURANCE POLICY, the federal takeover of elections and the censorship of the American people:
Statement by Secretary Jeh Johnson on the Designation of Election Infrastructure as a Critical Infrastructure Subsector
Release Date: January 6, 2017
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2017/01/06/statement-secretary-johnson-designation-election-infrastructure-critical
And it was all based on the many multitudes of lies that Russia-Russia-Russia interfered in our elections on behalf of President Trump, and that they hacked the DNC servers.
LOL
You have not been paying attention. AT ALL. But, you be you.
There was a group of women who formed and hatched this January 6 rally. President Trump heard about it because many of the then MAGA promoting twitter sites were promoting it and he mentioned that it sounded like a good idea –
and with that one comment the mainstream media had a field day promoting that President Trump was going to address a rally in Washington DC before Congress has their certification process.
So yes, he enthusiastically promoted the idea, he did not and was not the instrument that caused it. But it is understandable how some do cherish their selective facts.
The woman’s group in Miami that created the event, raised money for the event, signed up speakers for the event, were never ever once called to testify before the January 6 Committee. I put them in the same box as Ray Epps until proven otherwise.
“…So yes, he [Trump] enthusiastically promoted the idea [of a protest]…
Thank for acknowledging the truth because unless we do that we learn nothing.
The lesson I’m sure Trump learned was that you do not call for protest, especially in DC, even peaceful protests, for the simple reason you cannot control the crowd that you’re bringing together.
In essence, if the issue contains, to the parties on both sides, substance and emotion, violence is likely to occur. Unfortunately, that consideration was left out of his decision making process.
Johnny, let me respond to you directly.
you have a pattern of not just disagreeing…which I SUPPORT 100 PERCENT AND WILL DEFEND AS YOUR RIGHT 8 days a week. But this pattern over a long period of time, is now become obvious that you either have no idea what you are talking about, or that you just want attention as a troll. please stop doing that. It’s not a good look. We all come here with different ideas and opinions. Your first provable wrong position relates to President Trump caused a violent riot…this is not just misleading and omits the reality of fed embeds, but it’s patently provably false. Why you repeat this proven false bs from the media raises serious questions about your ability to be an honest person…or simply someone who is willing to get off the madhouse carousel wheel.
To the issue of whether the election debate would have been effective OR NOT, is a non sequitar argument. The fact is that NO DEBATE occurred. None. And there is a reason for that and I have explained it. YOU ASSUME it would have made no difference and you arrive at this conclusion how? Are you trying to say, we should be okay with election fraud and lawlessness to steal and election because…it was never worth the effort to inspect that and to debate it? Understand this…and maybe this will help you….certifications of presidential votes ARE NOT CEREMONIAL RUBBER STAMPS…and there is certainly enough evidence of fraud and irregularity to AT LEAST VOTE FOR DEBATE …what if that vote happened? what if the vote also continued to weigh into matters of fact regarding vote fraud and lawless conduct by unelected voting “officials” in various states…states that not coincidentally DID CAUSE THE ELECTION TO TILT TO JOE MALARKEY…sometimes it helps to see the big picture. My work was not to expect everyone to understand every single thing that happened.
But i reject your premise that President Trump caused J6 to happen. I reject you premise that it doesn’t matter because the vote would have been “no”.
Step away from the koolaid..
God Bless America
Of course there would be a protest – it is our right of indignation considering the phony state by state election results that so many people saw with their own eyes of the bogus flipped numbers. They were counting on this – of one’s normal reaction to go to DC and make their voice heard. They exploited the event and were ready to re-direct it for their own purposes.
Two objections were debated and voted on in the Senate and House chambers. The objection to the Arizona electors was defeated in both houses, and the objection to the Pennsylvania electors was also defeated in both House and Senate, with the Senate vote 92-7.
“The House voted to reject an objection to throw out Pennsylvania’s Electoral College votes for President-elect Joe Biden. The challenge failed by a vote of 282-138.”
When you look at those margins, we have pretty good evidence how survivable the motions to suspend in favor of taking up investigations of the 2020 election, particularly after the breach of the Capitol.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/01/19/mitch-mcconnell-blames-president-trump-says-mob-was-provoked-by-the-president/#more-207284
“If there has been one politician on these pages we have WARNED ABOUT over the years it is Senator Mitch McConnell. The Senate Majority Leader is the most conniving, cunning and Machiavellian member of the republican party.
With his positions solidifying CTH warnings for well over a decade, his actions over the past several weeks now highlight the dark background of his politics. Today, McConnell took the final stab at the people’s president as Donald Trump prepares to depart the White House. The bloom is off the ruse:” – Sundance
Pardons and reparations for J6 prisoners!
At least $3M each —
And some PTB heads on a (figurative) platter.
Meanwhile — Time for TPTB to prostrate themselves beneath the Cross of Christ, seek God’s forgiveness, and turn from their wicked ways.
As (mostly) Christians, it is not for US to Judge TPTB, as you say, Harriet it is up to God.
We can, however arrange the introduction.
Hear hear!
I have faith in smith and wessen !
I wonder if that big blue “Trump 2020” banner was honestly brought by Trump supporters or was infiltrated into the crowd by FBI
… you know – just to unmistakably brand the event as a “Trump uprising”
sit in on a business class, one of the first things they’ll tell you that “branding is everything”
There was far more than one big banner brought into the crowd that day by government agents provocateur who impersonated pro-Trump protesters……
Send the agents provocateur to Guantanamo.