One of the ways you can immediately detect federal Lawfare deployment is to look at how media articles are written when they outline court filings without direct citation for review. The Hill began SEE HERE. The New York Times is similar, SEE HERE.
Notice both national publications talk about a DOJ court filing, presumably made under seal, that limits President Trump’s defense access to materials and documents used in the case against him. Notice the media do not say how they gained insight into the details of the sealed filing itself; nor do they provide any source context for how their reporting is structured. Nothing like, “according to sources with familiar with the matter” or anything similar. Just nothing; no attribution at all.
That media context is a BIG red flag indicating the need to ‘create a narrative’ is more important than the actual substance of the evidence material underpinning it.
Both stories hit on the issue of the DOJ filing a (presumably sealed) motion with the Florida court, to place limits, rules and restrictions on evidence against President Trump, that limits his ability to review it, talk about it and/or provide context for it. THIS IS A LAWFARE MOVE. This is what happens in the prosecutorial star-chambers where they hide information in order to create the appearance of something nefarious, where nothing nefarious exists.
When we see this legal approach, we can be assured the case that uses the evidence is built upon fraud and pretense. Do not be afraid to tell your family, friends and others about this dynamic. President Trump is being accused of the crime of violating 18 U.S. Code § 793(e) – Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information, a violation of the espionage act, and the DOJ is requesting that President Trump must not permitted to defend himself by discussing the evidence against him.
The DOJ wants to limit public knowledge of the material evidence, not because it would harm national security – but rather because the nature of the evidence itself would highlight to the nation how fraudulent the targeting is. This is the guaranteed DOJ motive, that’s why everything is under seal and even the media will not talk about how they are gaining their leak knowledge. This is LAWFARE narrative engineering at its apex deployment.
WASHINGTON DC – The Justice Department on Friday filed a motion seeking to block former President Trump from releasing any classified materials that will be shared with his legal team during his prosecution for the mishandling of records at Mar-a-Lago, noting that some are still being used in the course of their investigation.
The documents “include information pertaining to ongoing investigations” which could be used to further cases against uncharged individuals, the Department of Justice (DOJ) wrote.
The suggested protective order, which will be reviewed by Judge Bruce Reinhart, would allow Trump to review the 31 documents the DOJ is using in the case only while in the presence of his attorneys.
“Defendants shall only have access to Discovery Materials under the direct supervision of Defense Counsel or a member of Defense Counsel’s staff. Defendants shall not retain copies of Discovery Material. Defendants may take notes regarding Discovery Materials, but such notes shall be stored securely by Defense Counsel,” the DOJ wrote.
It also includes similar language to a protective order agreed to in another Trump case that bars the former president from disclosing evidence in the case. New York state prosecutors made that request as they pursue a 34-count indictment of Trump relating to a hush money scandal.
“The Discovery Materials, along with any information derived therefrom, shall not be disclosed to the public or the news media, or disseminated on any news or social media platform, without prior notice to and consent of the United States or approval of the Court,” the department wrote. (read more)
Watch this interview with Devin Nunes and Kimbery Guilfoyle – Start at 06:40 listening to Nunes:
I am correct about the documents grabbed.
I am correct about the nature of the DOJ/FBI intentions and motives.
I am correct about the Lawfare manipulation of the material to present the illusion of illegal where nothing illegal is taking place…
…and I am increasingly certain that Mary McCord is part of TEAM Jack Smith!
Wait for it!
The first two defense approaches will likely be: (1) the Presidential Records Act supersedes the issues of document holding as noted in the use of the Espionage Act. (2) However, if the Espionage Act [Statute 793(e)] has to be defended, the originating issue of “unauthorized possession” will be the second approach heading to the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals.
Some baselines are needed to understand what is happening.
First, the National Archives and the DOJ did not demand a return of Classified Documents. They requested a return of documents containing classification markings. These are two entirely different things.
Most documents containing classification markings are not classified documents; yet, most classified documents contain classification markings. Additionally, one of the documents used by Jack Smith in his indictment [COUNT #11] contained no markings at all.
Second, it is critically important to remember that throughout the legal issues in the aftermath of the Mar-a-Lago raid, the DOJ has viciously denied any responsibility to describe the classified documents they claim to have retrieved. In fact, the DOJ has fought against any entity, including the court appointed “special master”, from being able to look at the documents the DOJ *previously* claimed were either classified, or, vital to national security. {GO DEEP}
Because there is a very specific type of Lawfare taking place with words, it is critical to see the value in what former HPSCI Chairman Devin Nunes has stated about the way the language is being deployed. Now we turn to the testimony of the national archivist office, and here is where it gets really interesting.
♦ During testimony to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) officials were asked specifically about Trump documents and how they could *KNOW* fulsome return of documents had not taken place. The response from the NARA officials is enlightening:
[Source pdf, testimony transcript – page 43 and 44]
Notice that NARA had knowledge these documents were in the possession of Trump and were pertinent to their archive retrieval. It was interesting at the time that NARA would know the content of the President Obama letter, and further interesting they would know there was more than one piece of correspondence between President Trump and Chairman Kim [Jong-un]. CNN even wrote about it HERE.
[Irrelevant note: Mr Bonsanko got the name wrong, Jong-il is dead]
Reminder, keep in mind the DOJ ferocity in not wanting anyone to know what documents they retrieved and/or defined.
We know, from President Trump describing the letter left to him by the former president, that Obama told Trump in the letter that the number one foreign policy and intelligence threat perceived by Obama (at the time of his exit) was a nuclear armed North Korea. This is where you overlay the Jack Smith writing in the indictment of national defense secrets and nuclear security issues.
We know, from President Trump speaking publicly about his communication and diplomacy with Chairman Kim Jong-un, that the two leaders exchanged letters relating to aligned national security interests that centered around DPRK nuclear ambitions and status.
Trump and Kim formed a geopolitical truce, a friendship of sorts, based on respect and trust around the nuclear issue. Chairman Kim decreased hostilities; President Trump no longer used inflammatory language about “Little Rocket Man.” A diplomatic détente was created.
NARA was looking for the letter written by Obama that described DPRK nukes, and NARA was looking for letters between Trump and Kim that touched on DPRK nukes.
Now, does the wording in the Jack Smith indictment that pertains to “nuclear concerns” and “national security matters” make more sense?
Would all of this “nuclear national defense” hullaballoo really stem from President Trump not giving up personal letters written to him by President Obama and Chairman Kim? YES! Would President Trump even characterize those letters as government property? NO!
♦ The indictment accuses President Trump of withholding documents containing “classified markings,” a very specifically deployed obtuse wording intended to create the implication of something nefarious where nothing nefarious exists. It is entirely possible for a person, any person, especially a person who follows the news, to possess documents containing “classified markings.”
There is a big difference between a classified document and a document containing classified markings. As an example, anyone who has looked at the Carter Page FISA application, made public in July 2018, has reviewed a document containing “classified markings.” When a document is declassified, they do not remove the markings.
This language is the underpinning of the entire DOJ/FBI framework that predicated the raid on Mar-a-Lago. Specifically, neither NARA nor the DOJ-NSD requested President Trump or his team to return Classified Documents. The DOJ demanded the return of any documents that contained “classified markings.” [SEE BELOW]
Because the verbiage is so intentionally obtuse (ie. Lawfare), a fulsome production in compliance with this DOJ demand would include any newspaper or magazine articles that had a picture of the Carter Page FISA application, or any printed online article that might contain the same or similar elements. There is a big difference between asking for a classified document return, and asking for a return of documents that contain “classified markings.”
Can you see the way it unfolds? Of course, when you apply the Lawfare lingo, an approach entirely based on maintaining the targeting of Trump, then suddenly the seemingly innocuous becomes horribly nefarious.
In order to pull this off two things would be needed: (1) the DOJ would need to write about it in a certain way in the indictment√; and (2) simultaneously, the DOJ would need to stop anyone from viewing the actual documents, as they misleadingly described them√. Hey, wait… that’s exactly what they did.
♦ In a previous court ruling by the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals, the court ruled in favor of the U.S. Dept of Justice – National Security Division (DOJ-NSD), and blocked the lower court order instructing a Special Master to review the DOJ claimed, “classified documents.” [pdf Ruling Here]
Essentially the order of the appellate court was based on the DOJ defining Trump’s Mar-a-Lago documents as “classified” and “vital to national security”, and the court’s determination said they have no authority to question the decision of the executive branch when it comes to how they DEFINE matters of national security.
The court (judicial branch) openly stated they defer to the DOJ (executive branch) regarding any/all claims of harm to national security that may be caused by a review of documents the DOJ-NSD determined, on their own authority, to be identified as classified or matters of “national security.”
In the prior opinion of the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals, if the DOJ states sharing the “classified documents” with a special master may harm national security, the court must accept that position without challenge and stop the special master review.
The 11th Circuit Court of Appeals did what the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) does with the DOJ-NSD and any matters defined by the originating Main Justice officials as “national security.” The 11th Circuit is deferred to the DOJ.
The DOJ was granted legal benefit of the doubt on all matters of national security, which puts the DOJ-NSD in ultimate control over the star chamber they operate.
This ridiculous ruling meant the DOJ could define any document as a document of “national security interest” and there is no countervailing review of their definitions. As soon as this decision was reached the DOJ then moved to appoint a special counsel. Can you see how this works?
With this ruling in his briefcase, Special Counsel Jack Smith could now define the Mar-a-Lago documents according to the legal intention of his targeting. That’s exactly what he did. The case against Trump is not a case about classified documents, it is a case about the DOJ defining unilaterally what documents are considered “vital to national security.”
With the DOJ getting to define those documents, the special counsel then moves to claim national security threats created by Trump’s ownership. The overlay of “vital to the nuclear capabilities of the defense dept,” can then be shifted to include letters from President Obama and Kim Jong-un about DPRK nuclear capabilities.
This being done to create drama. No defendant is ever allowed to sit in a room alone and view evidence.
They want the judge to issue an order stating the Trump cannot see the evidence alone without his lawyer present in order to tarnish Trump’s integrity.
It’s all a game.
sync: I agree. Fabricated drama to give the media fodder to blab about.
So the three attorneys that I have heard discussing this indictment with great specificity are Kash Patel, Robert Barnes, and Mike Davis. Each of them seems to have a great deal of experience in cases involving classified documents and each of them has put forth numerous suggestions as to how President Trump should be structuring his defense. My question, if anyone knows, is why none of these men are on his defense team?
I understand Project 65 is going after any top tier attorneys if they even consider representing DJT, but does that mean he is doomed to the Third Rate attorneys he seems to keep hiring? Even Alan Dershowitz seems bothered by all of this blatant harassment directed at attorneys in order to discourage them from taking this case.
Sundance, any input on this? Not worrying, but definitely wondering…
Kash Patel was called before the DC Grand Jury and is now a “witness”.
Okay, that makes sense…I wonder if that also means that he can’t give any specific advice to the attorneys that are handling the case? But I really hope that they are listening to the interviews that he is giving because he is bringing up LOTS of good suggestions/arguments that seem to be very well grounded in his knowledge of the subject matter.
That would be good too, wouldn’t it?
Kash would make a great witness. Trump’s lawyers can always call him to the stand.
Not sure but they may not be able to practice in Florida.
Barnes practices in florida
ItsIt’s Federal, not State. All they need is pass the FederalBar.
PDJT is a gifted expert at finding ways around roadblocks that would confound others.
This one is EASY. Firstly, PDJT is his OWN “Chief Council”; some people, perhaps most facing a legal challenge, foolishly (in my opinion and experience) totally defer to their lawyers, much as Gen. Flynn did.
Others understand that professionals (Drs, Lawyers, Accountants are ONLY giving their clients an OPINION, which like *ssholes everybody HAS ONE, some ARE one.
Professional advice, BECAUSE it IS professional advice, is even less valuable than simply asking a stranger “what would you do, if you were me?”
A survey of Drs asked if they would advise a patient with stage 3 Cancer to take the chemo, 90+ % answered “yes”.
Next question, if you or a loved one were diagnosed with stage 3 cancer, would YOU take or reccomend they take the chemo;
90% answered “No”.
Point being, as he is taking full responsibility and authority for his legal defence, his lawyers are literally his “mouthpieces”.
And, in order to avoid this lawfare attack, he can certainly arranged to “consult” with Barnes, etc. while keeping it on the down low.
While the client always has the final say in trial strategy, the reason for hiring a lawyer experience in this area of law is because of the lawyer’s knowledge of both procedural, evidentiary and substantive matters, as well as an assessment of how to approach issues with this or that judge.
Trump has not legal training, and acting as his own legal counsel would be a disaster. “He who represents himself has a fool for a client.”
Former President Donald Trump reportedly rejected suggestions from his attorneys to arrange a settlement with the Justice Department to avoid federal charges and instead, he listened to the advice of Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton, a conservative legal activist, and others who said he could legally keep the classified documents and should fight government prosecutors. Justthenews reported this yesterday. https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/all-things-trump/trump-rejected-lawyers-suggestions-avoid-indictment-listened-tom
If one of the lawyers was Jim Trusty, I would have listened to Trusty, a former federal prosecutor, over Fitton.
Fitton is not a lawyer.
That is the UNIParty msm narrative, however they have tons of lawyers on staff and are the ones who invited the socks case. A precedent setting case.
They win plenty of cases.
This narrative is designed to make you think President Trump was unwise and reckless and started this mess.
Total b.s.
Socks case ruled in DC. So would it have to be re-litigated in Florida??
Why should he agree to any settlement – that would be admitting guilt.
Exactly you settle to make it go away. and that would make
him look guilty…Of course his lawyer would likely suggest that
not to would probably be not good representation.. But in the
End POTUS has final say.
Dear God
“And, in order to avoid this lawfare attack, he can certainly arranged to “consult” with Barnes, etc. while keeping it on the down low.”
Yes, but if he consults with him “on the DL” then there is no attorney client privilege – which is one of the first things that Kash Patel thinks should be challenged by his team. The fact that a DC judge forced an attorney to breech that should have been an immediate fight, IMHO. Setting a precedent like like is chilling to the Constitutional rights of every American, even though most of them have no idea how important it is!
They have been trashing President Trump’s attorney client privilege and his Executive priveilege since day 1.
In fact, they consider him to have zero rights.
The attorney client privilege ruling was in DC so my understanding is trump can re-litigate that in Florida
They honestly believe they will never be on the receiving end of their illegitimate and seditious schemes.
I’m worried they have already “gotten to” his lawyers and this plays into this.
Agreed!
did i read that they are all democrats?
Matt Whitaker (former Temp AG) was on Fox a few nights ago
said that he would help POTUS in any way he could. POTUS
should hire him he has DOJ connections and would know
the game..If their side can hire DOJ people so should POTUS.
I seem to remember him as good guy but the Senate wouldn’t approve him so DJT got stuck with Barr instead.
Those are my questions too. Surely the lawyers of the right caliber have stepped up and are rapidly at work.
I’ve had major concerns with PDT’s lawyers thus far. None of them seem to be going pedal to the metal for our lion. I’m not impressed. They have to know what they’re going to face once they sign onto the MAGA team. Be ready to fight or get the heck out of the ring.
All the Trump haters in govt, have all been compromised. Bribery, drug abuse, and underage sex .. on video. Yeah right! The FBI and DOJ will release those videos in 75 yrs.
“The suggested protective order, which will be reviewed by Judge Bruce Reinhart, would allow Trump to review the 31 documents the DOJ is using in the case only while in the presence of his attorneys.”
I am curious as to why Judge Reinhart is reviewing the suggested protective order as opposed to Judge Cannon, whom is the assigned judge. It seems to be a rather important decision on whether President Trump is railroaded or not.
I’m also concerned that any decision that Judges Cannon or Reinhart makes that Smith does not agree with will be appealed back up to the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals.
Reinhardt is just a magistrate. Cannon is a district court judge. Magistrates assist judges with pre-trial matters, settlement conferences, and such. Magistrates can also handle habeas corpus petitions from convicts challenging their trial and/or sentences. Convicts have a lot of time on their hands, and jailhouse lawyers help them file challenges.
Magistrate positions were created to take some of the workload off district court judges. They are basically court employees for a fixed-term appointment, not Article II life-tenure judges, like district court judges.
Reinhart’s rulings would be appealed to Cannon. Cannon’s rulings would be appealed to the Eleventh Circuit.
Thanks.
Thanks Wethal. Why would DJT’s legal team advise him to settle with the DOJ- would that not play directly into Lawfare’s hands since it could be spun into an admission of guilt for public consumption?
Exactly.
Judge Reinhart is the guy in a photo hugging a bottle of whiskey and cookies isn’t he?
A Clinton boy
That was Cannon’s choice. She REFERRED the matter to Reinhart:
Though Judge Cannon is a Trump appointee, she (unfortunately) only has a total of FOUR DAYS experience in conducting criminal trials, and this trial is without precedent for guidance. She already got massacred on appeal after her previous rulings on Mr. Trump’s procedural requests. ALL her rulings were reversed. I’m very nervous that she is just out of her depth against Smith & Co.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/donald-trump-arrested-why-the-former-presidents-trial-judge-should-take-herself-off-the-case
Some of this was posted elsewhere already, but here goes:
The Constitution of the United States. Article II. Section. 1. The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.
That was drafted in 1787 and has applied to every President we have ever had.
This is the point most commentators are missing. The president’s executive power is from the Constitution. There is nobody who overrules his executive power. Every mention of a statue, which is a legislative action, is an attempt to limit the executive power of the president. Whether it is the Espionage Act or the Presidential Records Act, the intent is to curtain the executive power. Therefore, they do not apply to the president. The very act of taking the records to Mar-A-Lago made them his records. The FBI raid to grab those records was theft. I don’t know of any other way of looking at it without thinking there is some entity or person who exercises more executive authority than the president.
The presumption of the Presidential Records Act is that the legislature can define the “executive Power” of the President vested in the first sentence of Article II of the Constitution. Is there another way to look at this? The legislature gets to “put a fence around executive power” in a manner of speaking. This, in effect, makes them an executive power above the president, and it is not something vested in the legislature by the Constitution.
Arguing the specifics of the charges is an admission that the President accepts that his executive power is checked and limited by the legislature. This cannot be. The legislature’s power is to impeach.
The national security concept is just something invented by a bureaucrat or possibly some legislator. It means nothing constitutionally. Trump as president took an oath verbatim from the Constitution which he faithfully fulfilled.
It may be correct to characterize the raid on Trump’s home and Trump’s indictment as treasonous acts meant to destroy an enemy of an illegitimate regime.
If Trump plays under the traitors’ rules, good chance he loses. Just my common sense, non-lawyer opinion.
mikegraham,
I would “flip” the argument; the Presidential records act is written the way it is, BECAUSE it recognises, just as you say, the absolute, plenary power of the President as ultimate sole arbiter.
Therefore, it says the archivist can REQUEST, and NEGOTIATE with the President, but it gives it NO authority whatsoever.
The ONLY concession is it says the former President must not DESTROY any documents, without talking to the archivist first.
I would say the Presidential Records Act is in keeping with, and affirms the Presidents power and authority over National Security, not undermining it, at all. Ditto with the Clinton Sockdrawer case.
Thanks dutchman. Unless I misunderstood, Nunes talked about the archivist instead made a criminal referral to the DOJ without making a request or negotiating directly with DJT for the two personal letters to DJT from Obama and Kim Jong Un.
Amen.
This is also the fundamental Constitutional basis of the Presidental records ‘act’.
It clarified the principles already in the Constitution.
Constitutional law cannot be changed without a super majority of States.
I would like to say something if I may. I was looking thru some of the recent CTH posts to catch up. I saw the article about “20 Repubs voted on the Schiff thing” (paraphrasing obviously). We have NO friends at any level of government except maybe local. Frankly I am sick and tired of Purist Repubs using The Constitution as an excuse. Its not a wrong way of thinking but understand the paradigm has changed.
The Constitution was written for a moral populace. A population that welcomes Logic, Common Sense, and Natural Law. I would like to say there’s a lot of good people out there in our midst. I assume that even some of them vote Democrat (NOT many). For the most part we are not a moral citizenry and the people setting the standards have ZERO moral boundaries. All you need to do is look at the desire to bring men dressed as strippers into schools and have contact with children. These types of people used to be shunned from such places now they are welcomed by some (those some overwhelmingly make the rules). It is mind boggling how so many parents simply went along with it. Their desire to be part of “The Cool Clique” is truly amazing as much as it is sad.
The Constitution needs to be put on the shelf for a while. Thomas Massey and others need to get it through their head that when at war decency must take a backseat. I have a long memory. It is both a blessing and a curse I have come to understand. I remember things such as “The atmosphere/zeitgeist” at the time. I reprimand people who complain about DT shutting down the country and Warp Speeding the vax. Its not FAIR to make such allegations unless you remember the Psychosphere at the given moment IMO. That is a idea I hatched (not boasting) and I think it is important to live by and understand.
I am NOT optimistic about DT’s chances in 2024. I remember quite well the lessons from 2020. This crap with the DOJ and Jack Smith reaffirm my concerns. That being said, as I mentioned in a post a couple days ago, I will NOT vote PERIOD if DT is upended. If Donald Trump gets screwed best thing we can do is stay the bleep home.
If there is a chance you read this Mr Trump please understand this. I know you cannot discuss it but I ask you please keep it in mind and under your hat. If somehow you can blow the Death Star up one more time we need to get really serious. I am guilty above all others. In 2017 I decided to go on auto pilot and let you handle things. I still read CTH and occasionally blogged and tried to spread the word. However, I realize now that I should have stayed hard. From 2017-2020 I didn’t think it mattered because you were handling shit downtown and I severely underestimated the enemy. I think maybe you did too sir.
MY point is this: To hell with the Constitution some of these bastards need to pay. They need to be made examples out of this time. You and I are both Pragmatists in that we assume people will be happy if they are doing well and everyone’s “WINNING.” Now we know that not true sir. The Constitution and its principles can return to form when we have Logic, Natural Law, and Common Sense guiding the population again. Until that point, let it be known we tried to follow her. I for one, do NOT think it wise to slay demons without our swords.
Okay, but presume in the all out slugfest your idea unleashes, what is the guarantee the winners refer back to the Constitution put aside? Assuming even the good guys win.
Rather than put the Constitution aside, why don’t we citizens round up the pols and appointed nutjobs and then start sorting things out according to the Constitution? And all peaceably in the process.
Luke;
I understand exactly where youcare coming from, I agree (see my post about how the actual power of a President is dependant on his public support).
I believe 2024 will be no more of a replay of 2020, than 2020 was a replay of 2016.
I believe PDJT will enter office with a mandate of public support unseen since G. Washington, he will need it, and with it he will be able to expand the powers of the Presidency to its Constitutional limits, and again will NEED to, in order to wrest control from the enemy.
And I believe he well understands this is what he must do “the seal is broken” was about more than one court case.
He knows he must go scorched earth, take no prisoners and give no quarter, and with US supporting him, he will do what needs to be done.
Supposing just for a brief moment you meant to reply to Luke (wink wink), you actually replied to me… and I believe you meant to do so.
What you believe about President Trump entering office with a mandate isn’t going to happen… even should the man get elected.
I’m rather suspicious of you, Dutchman. You are eloquent (mostly), knowledgeable and seemingly a huge MAGA supporter… however, to me, all of it is over the top.
He may “win” the election, but I really believe that the Deep State/Swamp will never let him take office. Take that anyway you like.
I feel the same fear.
We don’t have a powerful country if the so-called deep state can control the will of 90 million patriotic Americans.
Sort of like 2020? Agreed 💯
Dutch the only problem with comparing 2016 to 2020, 2024 is that TPTB no longer think DT is a joke. They did in 16 and assumed he could easily be dispatched. That is the ONLY reason it was allowed to happen.
Here’s an interesting tidbit about HRC. According to her biography written by a loyal campaign staffer she said shortly after the 2016 election “I knew they would never let me be President.” WELL WHO THE F*** IS THEY???
In the past you would look to the media to provide perspective.
Apologies Dutch as I got off on a tangent I suppose. However I am confident that the only way to save this place is through a certain degree of mayhem.
My point is this sir…..whatever happens is going to be brutal, severe, and violent. We tried the easy way. Now it needs to be understood that is no longer an option. Donald Trump…..UNDERSTAND anyone who tells you otherwise is a F***** LIAR. AND there are people you can call on Sir.
“why don’t we citizens round up the pols and appointed nutjobs and then start sorting things out according to the Constitution? And all peaceably in the process.”
“Cruel or unusual punishment.” What does that mean? Its meant to be interpreted by a sane/moral population. We do NOT have such a luxury…..SIMPLE
You are making the blanket assumption all are not moral and can hold themselves to the Constitution.
Your suggestion to put the Constitution on a shelf is quite dangerous.
SIMPLE is holding oneself accountable to God first and the laws of the land second. God first, Constitution second…. SIMPLE…when holding oneself accountable to both.
Putting away the Constitution is simply giving TPTB exactly what the want.
I like your comment Phflipper but don’t be surprised if one day the wrath of the masses prove me correct. You’ll know when one of these imbeciles (plutocrats) heads gets smashed with a sledge hammer, cut off and stuck on a post outside the walls of DC. That is the kind of love I suspect is coming around in the new era of civility…..count on it!!
The Constitution begins, ” We the People.”
It does not say, “We the entitled elite with fancy law degrees from the Ivy League.” For years, it has been my constant sermon that we have surrendered our rights to a judicial autocracy, which assumes the power to overturn reality, and make any “ruling” that fancy might want.
Anthony Kennedy’s ruling that, “At the heart of liberty is the right to define one’s own concept of existence, of meaning , of the universe, and of the mystery of human life.” In short, that reality thing is way obsolete and needs to be ignored. Well, not for me.
The Constitution also doesn’t say we the people can out it on a shelf.
Suggesting so is crazy nonsense.
The Constitution can only ever regulate the passions of God fearing men.
The longer-term solution is more God-fearing men and less demons of Satan.
Such is conflict all they way back to the garden of eden.
Where mankind had no knowledge of good or evil.
In the end, we are all confronted with a choice.
God or Satan.
Don’t stay home and allow RDS to be selected. Anyone is better than this evil man.
I am NOT against RDS. I will stay home if DT is upended PERIOD. This is very dry and clear cut. I now have no doubt what is happening. I was skeptical for a bit but that time is passed.
Instead of staying home, how about a HUGE write-in campaign for Donald J. Trump for president?
Remember one thing, Donald Trump knows how to own the downside. It’s what made him President Trump, including how to work through the few business bankruptcies he had to go through (which is excellent training ground for in the future bringing a bankrupt nation through its next chapter), trial and error of more business startups than we will probably ever hear about, Impeachment 1, Impeachment 2, and everything up to this point.
Remember that, he has mastered owning the downside; so not counting him out on this matter either.
Instead of saying the DOJ, can we say traitor communist merrick garland? It’s better if we have names. This whole attack calls for some kind of retribution.
Garland is nothing but a bitter little man. Hes nothing but an avatar.. The DOJ/FIB know Trump will expose years of malfeasance there THAT’S why they need to politically assassinate him.
The one good thing Mitch did was to keep Garland OFF the Supreme Court
him being AG is only for 4 years being a supreme would be a lifetime appointment.
At this point, I have to wonder what would happen if these lawyers dogs start to disappear….one by one….
Getting pretty sick of this shit….
Why take it out on the dogs? {;o)
Turley’s latest article espouses what a good man Garland is, he just isn’t strong enough to keep the DOIJ in check. I nearly threw up.
Turley is a leftie, after all.
At this point, why doesn’t team Trump just release everything and let the light of truth shine where it may? I assume that at some point this may be the only card left or?
My best guess is that they have already made some rule about keeping it secret. And if Trump releases everything, then it would be a certain illegal action. ???
Doesn’t every document carry a classification marking of some type??? Am I wrong?
You’re right. Even unclassified is stamped as such. There’s also NOFORN, not releasable to foreign nationals. It’s not classified, just controlled.
The letters Trump got from Zero and Kim have no such markings.
Not all documents do, though the government does over classify things.
Yes, I understand they were personal communications between 2 presidents. The idea PDJT has no authority to keep them is absurd.
Open borders is a huge national security risk. Someone tell smith and garland this news.
It is also a violation of U.S. Constitution Article IV Section 4:
“The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.”
Read the replies to the tweet.
It apparently started with Thomas Massie popping off to people. Maybe not.
People are done with the GOPe. FLAT DONE.
Awesome take downs in the comments. I actually liked Massie for 5mins
If the judge allows this, then she is compromised. The only “national security” at issue here is their butts, not ours. This is a panic move on their part and it has come about due to the weakness of their case. They have nothing. It is Adam Schiffless all over again. When will we see the solemn march to the jury wearing dower faces with papers in hand?
SD, with all your evidence coupled with your brilliance, is there some way you could participate in the defense? President Trump needs a fairlaw group to annihilate once and for all the evil lawfare group.
James interviewing Mark Steyn about Smith’s corrupt indictment of P Trump.
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It almost sounds to me that the one document that had no classified markings is an ‘unopened letter’ that the DOJ knows would be foolhardy for them to open, but which they really, really are curious about, and want our VSGPDJT to open, BUT ONLY in the presence of his lawyers.
But, what if that ‘letter’ was marked ‘For Donald Trump’s eyes only’ and, hence, no one will touch it until he does — but he will not as then other eyes other than his would see it.
Hey! If this is true and not just a supposition, why doesn’t the DOJ just put the word out that they know this ‘letter’ exists, they know PDJT has not opened it, and they would like to ask the ‘author’ of the ‘letter’ to authorize its opening for not only Donald Trump’s eyes, but the eyes of ALL people who so wish to see it . . .
One of the first things that a criminal defense lawyer says to a client is “STFU and let me do all the talking.” Trump is certainly justified in wanting to defend himself if only because the DOJ is tainting the jury pool and hindering Trump’s chances for the election, but as the Miranda warnings say, “Anything you say may be taken down and used against you at trial.”
The one thing Trump cannot do is to badmouth the judge (or magistrate) in public.
Never, ever, ever badmouth a judge in public, especially if they are handling your case.
Yes, they’re supposed to be impartial, but given the partisanship that has affected judicial appointments, that is wishful thinking.
In representing pro se (representing myself) I once totally discredited an accredited “expert witness” with my cross-examination, and it was that which won my case.
Every lwa student has it drummed into their head;
“Never, never, NEVER try to discredit an expert witness during cross; you will FAIL, and in failing actually help your oppositions case.”
Thing is, like the bumblebee that never studied aerodynamics (and so doesn’t KNOW it can’t fly!) I never WENT to law school. If I had, I probably would not have TRIED to discredit the witness, and would have lost this extremely important case.
PDJT has insulted Judges before, and like calling Rocket man,..rocket man while everyone freaked out, it turned out he knew EXACTLY what he was doing.
Every lwa student has it drummed into their head;
“Never, never, NEVER try to discredit an expert witness during cross; you will FAIL, and in failing actually help your oppositions case.”
I never heard that in Evidence Law. My old firm did products liability litigation, which usually involved expert testimony, and we routinely shredded opposing experts on cross.
I’ve only been on a dozen criminal case juries, but every one of them included experts who were vigorously opposed during cross-examination. I concur. It’s routine.
Same here, Dutch!
During the time of my ‘troubles,’ during about 20-21 (lost only 1 and it was rigged) hearings where I represented myself, I discredited in different circumstances an ‘expert’ witness, humiliated a couple of private lawyers, exposed a prosecutor and investigator in one case, got into it with 2 judges, 1 of which threatened me with contempt and I called her bluff; the other threw me out of court because I accused him of impropriety I had evidence of – latter made formal complaint to judges’ review board with eveidence – got a redo; made a formal statement to federal authorities with a sworn notarized affidavit about public corruption- they did nothing to the malefactors, but did not come back and arrest me for perjury/false statements either. Feel me on that last one?
It takes some serious study, prep, and a lot of ‘balls,’ and be prepared for the consequences, but it can be done!
Gotta ask, why have you been in court so much?
Over 20 years ago, there was an attempt to frame me for serious crimes. No bill by the grand jury.
Requested all records to review and sue. After analyzing the files, I realized that they knew I was innocent per their own physical evidence but pursued anyway (which I already knew).
As I started to pursue civil and criminal actions against state actors and private individuals , it opened a can of worms in so many directions I couldn’t afford to pursue in every action I was taking, so I had to do a lot of it myself. Not to mention that as I started attacking government officials, the DA turned his head while corrupt local LEO ran rogue operations against me to ‘silence’ me.
My pursuit, unknown to me in the beginning, was causing revelations of massive long term exposure of corruption at the courthouse, particularly the DA’s office.
To give context, I come from a notoriously corrupt county. 1970s – unsolved double murder that led to the thrice attempted, twice convicted innocent defendant to death row. The third attempt was dropped. Defendant later committed ‘suicide.’ That case is studied in law schools all across the nation now.
1980s – notorious case of first sheriff in US history convicted of drug smuggling, but it may have been untrue as presented.
A lot of the same actors were involved at the ‘courthouse’ level in my circumstances.
The more I dug, the more I found. People from all over brought me info on past events and the authorities knew it. My story is unwritten and mostly unknown outside of that county and a few adjacent counties. Except to most of the long time old natives of that county.
I am well known among the old guard of that courthouse, former high ranking LEO of that county, and a lot of the old, old native society people of that county. There was a time when I would enter the courthouse for one of my pursuits or to help someone else in trouble, or observe other cases that did not seem kosher, that the lobby or gallery would go silent. You could literally hear a pin drop.
I am a walking, yet respected, pariah when I go back and visit. The old natives greet me with respect and unbelievable hospitality and gestures. The authorities or vestiges of the prior ones avoid me like the plague! Literally!
If I walk into an establishment where any of them are present, it will go silent and most of the time they exit quickly.
When my fight was over, word was sent to me by the ‘old men’ of the county that to their living memory, that I was the only person that has ever taken on the local establishment to walk away alive and/or not convicted of a ‘crime.’
It occurred in one of the most notoriously acorrupt counties in GA from where I am originally from.
Over 3 years of my life. I was told at the beginning to just let it go, but I couldn’t.
In my mind, what was attempted on me was no different than someone putting a loaded gun to my head, pulling the trigger, and the weapon misfiring. It became my turn!!
I did the best I could against a behemoth. In the end, it was a stalemate, but it broke me financially.
It is a miracle that not only am I alive, but I recovered more than adequately on the financial end.
I don’t know for sure but I think I can relate to Trump, as a man going thru his travails, perhaps better than most alive.
Omgosh that’s a terrible but remarkable story. G-d bless you and your courage! Sounds like a real life Buford Pusser movie.
The 11th Circuit’s opinion only mentions the Presidential Records Act in reference to NARA’s responsibilities. In evaluating whether the docs with “classified markings” are personal, there is no reference to the PRA. In fact , the 11th Circuit noted that DJT hadn’t really argued that the documents were declassified (p.19: “Plaintiff suggests that he may have declassified these documents when he was President.”). The 11th Circuit isn’t required to make arguments on behalf of DJT. This begs the question: why wasn’t the PRA more aggressively argued by DJT’s lawyers. Gamesmanship? Did DJT open the door for the DOJ to indict?
When one takes an appeal, the appeal includes a statement of the “Issues Presented.” those are the only ones that the appealing party, in that appeal it was the DOJ, IIRC, wanted heard. if it is narrowly framed, that’s all they decided. The responding party (appellee) can put in a counter statement of the issues presented, and it is up to the court to decide how narrow or broad that particular appeal will be.
DJT filed a reply brief. Whatever issues he presented would be considered by the Court, including presumptive declassification, personal records, etc.. Where is the PRA argued?
Did his reply specifically bring up the PRA? Courts generally do not discuss issues that the parties don’t raise.
Yes, it was argued and ignored by the 11th Circuit, at least in their opinion. SMH.
https://www.lawfareblog.com/trump-files-response-justice-department-appeal-eleventh-circuit
OK, then they didn’t want to reach that issue at that time.
Trump raised it, which is good. He’s preserved the issue for a later appeal.
btw The 11th Circuit stated , citing precedent, that “When matters of national security are involved, we “must accord substantial weight to an agency’s affidavit.”” (p.25). So I don’t read that as surrender by the court to the DOJ’s determinations. Anything suggesting complete obedience to the DOJ’s determinations would just be irrelevant dicta, imo.
And an affidavit might suffice in a pre-trial matter, but at trial, Trump would have the Sixth Amendment right to cross-examine the affiant about his determination that the documents were national security matters.
Good point. So are you suggesting Sundance is incorrect above in regard to the Court’s continued deference to DOJ on National Security matters at this point in the proceeding, including for purposes of a gag order?
I’m a retired civil litigator, including a lot of appellate work. But I did work with several former prosecutors. Trump hadn’t been indicted when the special master issue came up. It was a criminal investigation.
Now that he has, the constitutional protections of the Fifth and Sixth Amendments apply. Whether Trump’s reached a point where affidavits no longer suffice, I don’t know. That would be up to Reinhart, Cannon, and maybe the Eleventh Circuit.
On October 31, 2017, Sayfullo Saipov, 34, of Uzbekistan was arrested for carrying out a terrorist attack in New York.
On February 13, 2023, his trial finally started.
Trumps trial will be many years in the future.
I think the DOJ knows that, especially with the likelihood of appeals before the trial even starts. This was done to damage Trump, and make the 2024 election all about him, and not about Biden’s senility, corruption and incompetence.
Smith, IIRC, was the one whose conviction of former VA governor McDonnell was overturned 8-0 by SCOTUS. But the damage was done. McDonnell’s political career was over, and possible presidential contender had been knocked out.
Smith has a reputation that extends across the globe. Check out his prosecution of Kosovo president for war crimes. The man is a psychopath.
Yikes!!! WTH happened to Guilfoyle?!?!?
Too much plastic surgery, collagen injections in lips, not to mention too much makeup.
Why is there never any perspective with this stuff??
She’s too old for her hair, too. She looks as if she’s trying to keep up the high school senior photo look. And the low neckline is not business-like, unless she’s in a particular line of business….
She’s 9 yrs. older than Trump Jr.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/body-dysmorphic-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20353938
Seems like what Michael Jackson must have had…
I didn’t want to say anything, as I don’t want to be catty — but — this was my first view of Kimberly Guilfoyle for quite some time.
Egads. Why do women do this to their lips? They look like fish.
Fish lips. Women, this is not attractive. Instead, it’s grotesque. Please stop doing this.
We criticize those who ‘cut off their boobs’; cut off their penises; create fake boobs; create fake penises, etc.
Making your natural lips into Fish Lips, is also distorting/manipulating your natural body.
None of this should be done. Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should.
There’s Something About Mary
Never Gets Old
Buraq’s third term.
Russia, Russia!
That is the stuff of nightmares
That’s one ugly set of nesting dolls
They aren’t dolls though, they’re dolts!
Lol, as always, sur le point!
That song tears me up with pride. Why can’t we be proud to be Americans?
The DOJ in 2020 had a judge dismiss the criminal case against a Russian firm, Concord Management and Consulting LLC, accused of funding a propaganda operation to meddle in the 2016 presidential election to sway it in President Donald Trump’s favor. In May 2018, apparently to the surprise of the special counsel Mueller, lawyers for Concord appeared in court, pushed for discovery requests, and filed a not-guilty plea.
They chose not to litigate the case, potentially imperiling national security should the U.S. government be forced to produce sensitive information in discovery.
Yet here they are requesting limitations on Trump’s ability to have them produce sensitive information in discovery.
Concord hired a master in white collar crime, Eric Dubelier, who carefully went through the timeline, and found out, with info from his client, that Concord did not even exist during the time the alleged crimes were committed. It was not incorporated until afterwards.
The DOJ had to dump that embarrassing mistake fast.
I loved reading Eric Dubelier’s statements and motions to the court.
He was brilliant.
I apologize in advance to folks whose sensibilities I am about to offend.
This is BULL SHIT!
Does this one man really terrify the administrative oligarchs that much?
What a bunch of pussies!
Yes he does. And yea they are, and I think you’re being kind to them.
it has nothing to do with trump. it’s all about the new age new world order of woke. globalists will not be denied. trump will be lucky to stay out of prison, let alone become president.
It does have something to do with Trump and his supporters specifically. The threats and bribes don’t work in his case, Also, he has a ‘yuge’ politically aware following. He – and we– are not caving.
It’s OK Lorrie, Donnieboy is the resident Eeyore.
Meanwhile, while Floridians suffer and PDJT is being politically attacked by slowjoe, the DeSantis family is celebrating and planning for their future in the WH.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12204995/amp/Ron-Casey-DeSantis-dazzle-Reno-Rodeo-crowd-three-kids-tow.html
I so disgusted with corrupt and cowardly RDS that I prefer greusome newsome.
It seems to me that they define national security as “Anything we don’t want the public to know”.
And the chief thing they don’t want the public to know is that the national security state has used its monopoly over what is or not deemed classified to assert power over anyone – including the President of the United States – they dislike for whatever reason.
…about their dirty dealings , cuz it would deteriorate trust in the primacy of the state . I’ve got news for them , they’re a day late and like 33 trillion dollars short ….
Her lips are hideous. I can’t believe Don Jr likes being with that.
he doesn’t have a choice now. any move by trump jr. to seperate and create distance and she would destroy him in open court. anything (ANYTHING) she would accuse him of or say would be used to castrate jr. he was stupid for hooking up with a bimbo in the first place.
men are stupid.
I’m still not sure if she is a honeypot plant. She is originally from SF and dated Newsome.
Always slinked around with one man after another, all rich or powerful.
Highly educated, well connected call girl was always my take.
Wasn’t she married to Gruesome?
Yes, married and had a son.
I still to this day don’t understand what she saw in Damien von Hairgel.
Lolololol
“These” people are beyond vile.
They know in the end they lose, right?
Praying for President Trump no one not law fare or the corrupt democrats have control GOD IS IN CHARGE AND HE DOESN’T LIKE SATANIC LIARS.
you make me laugh.
OK, I get why people don’t want to vote for another Republican, neither do I. But, are you working locally to kick out the Rinos in your county, district, and state? I am currently reading Patrick K. O’Donnell’s Washington’s Immortals and I see a parallel here. When the battles got intense, I mean intense, there were deserters and there were those who charged into the battle. Right, many never saw another day, but with their self sacrifice, some took hills, forts, towns, etc. These victories, gained at great cost of life, became inflection points in history. Their sacrifice is why we have freedom. Our energy is wasted by focusing on these corrupt Rhinos, our energy needs to be focused on changing our party locally and helping to elect men and women of character.
It has been a long time coming, but thanks to many dedicated patriots in our state of GA, we just saw a completely new slate of Republican officers elected on a local and a state level. These statewide victories have given me a renewed hope that Truth will prevail, but it will depend on the determination and fortitude of “ordinary people doing extraordinary things” against all odds of success.
Stay the course.
Victory requires a firm foundation. Kudos to the rank-and-file in GA!
Our government would classify a orange juice box if they had the chance. All this classification frenzy needs to stop already. Too many things are unnecessarily classified.
Hell, the formula for invisible ink was only declassified within the past few years.
I will have to read this after I cook dinner. No sense in being so frustrated it turns up in the quality of my meal or my ability to enjoy it.
It strikes me as a fundamental injustice that the courts intend to privilege the government’s questionable classifactory lingo over due process – an injustice that is more than likely to further undermine already declining trust in the federal judiciary and the so-called separation of power between it and the executive branch.
This reminds me of the Canadian … unmarked graves at the sites of Residential Schools for the indigenous children. “Mass graves of Indian children” … purportedly MURDERED by Priests and Nuns. “Graves Found” by ground penetrating radar.
it’s all bogus. And not a single grave has been exhumed and a children’s remains examined. Not a single shovel has been put in the ground. No PROOF of anything has been provided. Yet the PM … and even The Pope have all cried and apologized for the “evil” done by the palefaces.
Same with the “Top Secret” documents found in a MaraLago bathroom. You can’t see them … cause they’re “Top Secret” … and you don’t have a “Top Secret” clearance. In fact … nobody associated with Trump will EVER qualify for the Top-Top Secret clearance required. Why? Because anyone working-for or associated with Orange Man Bad will EVER qualify for the Top-Top Secret Clearance
Lavrenty Beria would be proud of bidens DOJ.
Isn’t he their guiding star?
I don’t think magistrate Reinhart is inclined to rule in trumps favor on this motion based on statements made about trump in past
I understand that In 2017 trump said something to effect that “John Lewis is all talk and no action.”. And supposedly Reinhart responded “John Lewis has arguably done more to make America great than any living citizen. John Lewis is the conscience of America. “
And I understand that Reinhart went on to say that “donald trump does not have moral stature to kiss John Lewis feet”
And they want Cannon to recuse.
Because the verbiage is so intentionally obtuse (ie. Lawfare), a fulsome production in compliance with this DOJ demand would include any newspaper or magazine articles that had a picture of the Carter Page FISA application, or any printed online article that might contain the same or similar elements. There is a big difference between asking for a classified document return, and asking for a return of documents that contain “classified markings.” – Sundance
Yet this “obtuse verbiage” is used to create the impression of the most “horribly nefarious” violation of our national security ever by a President! Then the corrupt leftist propagandist msm runs with this falsehood 24/7! This ruse must end of the DOJ only being allowed to define “any document as a document of national security interest and there is no countervailing review of their definitions” and further no one can see the documents in dispute because of national security! Hopefully Judge Cannon will puncture this vail of secrecy bullsh*t during her proceedings! JMO
So this is where I win or lose confidence in PTrumps lawyers and Judge Cannon.
Exactly what documents does a jury get to see as evidence? A document that has some writing at the top; i.e., CLASSIFIED, and then the rest blacked out??
”Take our word for it, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, these documents are top secret and the defendant (because they’ll call President Trump that to demean him) should not have had them.”
Imagine a DUI trial where the State says the defendant’s blood alcohol content was twice over the legal limit but they have no written lab report to show the evidence of this.
Apparently the jury is supposed to take their word for it?
Just vile.
I can’t post how I feel.
So, my thoughts on these indictments, NYC (state wasnt this the supposed payment to the Stormy?), Florida (federal, document stuff), DC 1/6 election insurrection stuff (federal I think), and GA (state and election based looking for votes).
I think NYC and possible Florida may be “dismissed” but Trump will still be media labeled as guilty, but was let go, but it was “fair”. Also, DOJ doesn’t want chance of info released in Florida one.
So, DC 1/6 will go forward and he will be found guilty. GA will go forward and he will be found guilty. Both are big bad election insurrection stuff. And things can be called “fair” Trump “won” 2 and lost 2.
A further warning to anyone to question anything about past……and future elections.
In this latest move, (actually one they have been doing for some time) of “targeting” ANY lawyers that work for “Trump” they are “sewing the seeds of their own destruction” which is admittedly nothing new for them.
They are pressuring these lawyers “corporate clients” to “drop” them, initiating pointless and ultimately unproductive “ethics complaints” against them, etc.
So, they are creating an army of pissed off, largely unemployed lawyers that are highly sympathetic to PDJT.
Gee, when he assumes office in Jan. 2025, he knows he will have to fire ALL of the Federal attorneys, and all of at least the two top levels of the DOJ, and replace them with real fire breathers, loyal to him and committed to his goal of “retribution” and establishing Justice.
But, WHERE will he find such people, “willing to give up their private practice, and come to work in DC.”? LOL.
He could have fired all 93 U.S. Attorneys in Jan. 2017 a la BJ Clinton circa Jan. 1993.
It just gets me that so many just do NOT see the hypocrisy in all of this.
The Globalist have gone so far over board that is so obvious.
So many do not seem to realize how UNCONSTITUTIONAL all of this is!
The Globalist in our country have literally written their own rule book & ripped up the American Constitution. H3LL, most of the Globalists lawmakers in America probably don’t even know the major factors of our American constitution. (had put American in front of the word Globalists, but I can’t even consider these Globalist lawmakers living in America American anymore)
The below quote has been in my head ever since I saw Trey’s speech over 8 years ago. It’ from a speech about illegals you might not like Trey but his words hold so true!
“The rule of law is the greatest equalizing, unifying force we have in our culture. And when you play political games with it, you may benefit today, tomorrow you will beg to have the law enforced, so just be careful what you do with it today” Trey Gowdy
Gowdy to Dems: In Future ‘You Will Beg‘ to Have Law Enforced https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2015/02/26/gowdy-to-dems-in-future-you-will-beg-to-have-law-enforced/
and it’s not even “classified markings” in the indictment… it is “classification markings”
Could “not classified at all” be considered a “classification marking”??!?
Wow.
This is a wild suggestion.
Trump can talk about the Governor Robert McDonnell case. Jack Smith convicted him. Supreme Court unanimously overturned (8-O, one justice was absent).
If Trump’s judge doesn’t specifically tell Trump to shut up completely, this would be a good case point out results.
Dear God, bless me for I have sinned, because I admit that I HATE these people and their proxies everywhere.
it’s a BS case unable to withstand mild scrutiny.
question for the legal pros (and inviting anyone to be clear who has an opinion):
How does DOJ present a case and withhold context and technical and classification and national security materials from a JURY?
What I find weird is that cannon has not ruled that jury members seek classified clearance …
what am I missing?
or am I getting ahead of myself and that ruling comes later when a jury has been selected.
(and getting in the nuance…would not one of the qualifications for jury in this specific case, require at a minimum some kind of background checks.? Otherwise, any normal jury pool selection may end up become the mother of all hiccups…can DOJ use that as a means to direct what jury it prefers?)
there are some real issues here. I really do believe cannon is going to need some help understand and making the correct decisions. I look forward to hearing opinions.
God Bless America
Talk about violating potential jurors’ rights! And how long would that take? Months and months just to do security clearances, which also gives the gubmint insider information on the jurors. This has catastrophe written all over it. Just one juror saying something to another juror (before they’re sent back for deliberations) would be grounds for a mistrial.
Having the DOG look at who you voted for in a prior election, how many times you’ve been divorced, any misdemeanors in your background, what’s your credit score, military family, have you declared bankruptcy before, who do you owe money to, who owes you money, is there a family member incarcerated, are you a communist……
AND…AND..President Trump would not be entitled to any of this information.
Jeanine, you have arrived at the same issues that I also share. and this is one of the reasons why while I understand from Sundance’s view this is a national defense case. It most certainly is CONTROLLED in the courtroom from a classification case….
just like the procedural rules that were violated and replaced by those of a few in the house using the j6 emergency…it’s the rules and the procedures that control outcomes…flamed and incited by real criminals.
so too will this trial also involve the lopsided influence of DOJ based on classification rules. One of the appeals court decisions that overrulled cannon related to a special master. It was at that moment, I realized that context and even access to the materials and documents used to produce evidence were going to be controlled by the DOJ…and this greatly disadvantages President Trumps’ defense team…the jury is secondary but also meaningful as damage to a open and fair trial.
I am still confident however. There are just too many glaring legal issues that DOJ has presented. In order for DOJ to win these indictments would require not just cannon to fail…but also all the appeals at the district level and SCOTUS…where I am certain these cases will eventually move. That’s a lot of different judges looking at these issues and deciding that the DOJ can hold secret police spy state powers in a criminal case..IN A NORMAL COURT.
that might work in FISA (and it certainly has worked in fisa and remains so to this day), but this is very different.
God Bless America
I do hate that these lawyers are willing to tear this nation apart, to openly ruin family relationships and friendships among the everyday citizen simply to gain power; but mostly I hate that because of these treasonous actions I now understand why citizens gladly cheered when politicians were hung and or beheaded.
As President Trump said, they’ve broken the Seal.
Is there any chance the Supreme Court, whether just through Justice Thomas or an immediate appeal to the full court, can step in and stop this treason by lawyers?
no
Thanks; didn’t think so but did wonder.
Oh so when Trump gets in he can put those he wants in the DOJ and they can go after Obama and play the same game they’re playing on Trump. And the court has to accept what the DOJ is telling it and not challenge them. Except the court won’t accept anything Trump’s DOJ tells it.
See! It always comes back to Scumbama when it involves PRESIDENT TRUMP!!