Two quick juxtapositions to contemplate:
Just accepting things as they are presented to be, without laying opinion on the table.
♦ Mr. Elon Musk is saying he spent $44 billion to purchase a platform without any prior knowledge the U.S. Dept of Homeland Security (DHS) and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) was operating on the backbone of the communication platform he was purchasing.
Additionally, all due diligence that may have been conducted before the biggest expenditure in the history of social media networks, did not reveal this intelligence community operation, to him, until after the sale was complete.
Everything thereafter is based on this predicate.
♦ Mr. Ron DeSantis is saying he had no idea the apparatus of political constructs was creating a presidential campaign process over a period of two years that would require his ultimate approval and participation, during the period when he genuinely claimed to be running for reelection to be the 2022 Florida Governor.
Everything thereafter is based on this predicate.
Whether you believe these assertions to be true or not is entirely up to you.
However, with these two points in mind, what does that say about the current state of our national pretense?
Expand the discussion. I am very interested in how intellectually honest people view these assertions.
I believe Musk more than I do DeSantis but I do not believe Musk is anywhere close to Ivory Snow purity.
Samanna
You need to go read Ecclesiastes 10:19.
You can wine me and you can dine me
But the MONEY TALKS.
Even the Lord recognizes what makes the world go round, on ‘this’ world.
The more I learn of DST, the more shady he comes across. He has not been transparent about his intentions. He did much better than average as governor of FL throughout the pandemic but it was never clear and is still unclear whether political winds or fidelity to the Constitution is driving his political career.
I could not care less about Musk or Twitter except to the extent Twitter shut down honest dialogue about covid and the stolen 2020 presidential election.
pre musk.
People who go to DST speeches need to ask him:
“We hear you say you are against Woke, Against CRT, against The trans movement.
But what are you Pocketbook issues?
You went to Sea Island and took $200MM from a handful of Billionaires who have stated they do not want a reinstatement of
America First, Nationalistic Economic Policy. They want the return of the WTO, IMF, World Bank, CFR, WEF economic policies that sent the Raw Materials, the Equipment, the Plants, and the JOBS, all overseas.
You set up an Anti Trump pak last weekend that got funded for $50MM, from only 12 donors.
Who are these people and who is your loyalty to, them, or us?
We want someone that will say and mean
A Strong Economic Policy is a Strong Defense Policy
A Strong Foreign Policy
A Strong Domestic Policy
A Strong Trade Policy
ETC, ETC, ETC.
We want an America First, Main Street not Wall Street, MAGA Trade and Economic Policy.
What is Your policy, Ron DeSantis?
Ask DeSoros why he voted for TPP to outsource America’s future economic decisions. That’s about as globalist as it gets.
Trumps TTP deal??? DeSantis left congress in 2018. You must be aware of Trumps new and improved TTP.
TPP= Trans Pacific Partnership. Had it gone through when DeSoros *voted* in favor of it, all economic decisions would have been officially outsourced to the globalists.
USA would have had zero control over our economic decisions, effectively ending our national sovereignty!
President Trump would NEVER do that. Arguably, the most significant ‘America First’ initiative of his presidency was to take charge of and renegotiate poor trade deals, including the Paris “Climate” Accord and NAFTA.
If the donors think the bought DeSantis, they will find out their donation was string free. One mega donor was angry because DeSantis signed off on the 6 week abortion ban. The donor will donate no more. DeSantis owes no one anything, he stands firm in his convictions , and serves We the People of Florida. Not corporation executives.
Divide and conquer strategy has worked wonders on you. DeSantis has always head integrity. And not one person, including the grudge bearing SD, can’t say Gov DeSantis is less than an ethical and honorable man. He’s not in politics for “the perks”, as he told the press when he turned down the pension and healthcare plan when he first went to DC as a congressman. First and foremost in his thought and deeds, are what our founding fathers wanted for this country. You may be skeptical, but I’ve watched deeds a bd listened to his words. He’s a man of his word . I don’t believe he’ll run for President.
He’s said in print and in the Pierce Morgan interview, he is guided by both the US Constitution and the Florida Constitution. I know he’s followed both and stays within them. He’s an exceptional man. Before he ever said he followed the Constitution, I watched his moves and said it myself a year ago.
Selected excerpt from Noam Chomsky speaking tour for his book, “Manufacturing Consent.”
https://chomsky.info/19890315/
Within this is what the DeSantis candidacy is predicated on. The system will only allow a choice made by the American public that it controls, that’s “in-bounds.” Vetoing “out-of-bounds” choices. It’s not wedded to Marxism or Capitalism or any ideology. It’s wedded to its power. Which makes a DeSantis better than a Biden or Obama, others considered “in-bounds.” But not to mistake DeSantis as a crusader for freedom, for fair elections, for most of the ideals most Treepers and MAGA stands for. The System sees a DeSantis candidacy like tossing an agitated dog a bone to settle it down by distraction.
“All of these operations were completely illegal. There was a Congressional report done on them- General- GAO report, which simply pointed out that of course they’re illegal — they were run out of the National Security Council, and, not allowed to propagandize Americans. But it was very successful. When this was exposed during the Iran-Contra hearings, one top administration official described the activities of the Office of Public Diplomacy as one of their really great achievements. It was a, he said, a spectacular success. He described it as the kind of operation that you carry out in enemy territory. And that’s quite an appropriate phrase. I think the phrase expresses exactly the way in which the public is viewed by people with power: it’s an enemy, it’s a domestic enemy, and you got to keep it under control, and you have to make sure that the mysteries are not revealed, so that the people don’t become so curious and arrogant that they refuse to submit to a civil rule, to put it in 17th Century terms. And to control that domestic enemy, propaganda and fabrications, and so on, are important, and that’s what the public relations industry is for, for corporate purposes, and what the media are for if they properly serve the State.”
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“If you go back to the International Encyclopedia of Social Sciences published in 1933 — days when people were a little more open and honest in what they said — there’s an article on propaganda, and it’s well worth reading. There’s an entry under propaganda. The entry is written by a leading- one- maybe the leading American political scientist, Harold Lasswell, who was very influential, particularly in this area, communications, and so on. And in this entry in the International Encyclopedia on propaganda he says, we should not succumb to democratic dogmatisms about men being the best judges of their own interests. They’re not, he said. Even with the rise of mass education- doesn’t mean that people can judge their own interests. They can’t. The best judges of their interests are elites — the specialized class, the cool observers, the people who have rationality — and therefore they must be granted the means to impose their will. Notice, for the common good. Because, again, because- well, he says, because of the ignorance and superstition of the masses, he said it’s necessary to have a whole new technique of control, largely through propaganda. Propaganda, he says, we shouldn’t have a negative connotation about, it’s neutral. Propaganda, he says, is as neutral as a pump handle. You can use it for good, you can use it for bad; since were good people, obviously, — that’s sort of true by definition — we’ll use it for good purposes, and there should be no negative connotations about that. In fact, it’s moral to use it, because that’s the only way that you can save the ignorant and stupid masses of the population from their own errors. You don’t let a three year old run across the street, and you don’t let ordinary people make their own decisions. You have to control them.
And why do you need propaganda? Well, he explains that. He says, in military-run or feudal societies — what we would these days call totalitarian societies — you don’t really need propaganda that much. And the reason is you’ve got a- you’ve got a club in your hand. You can control the way people behave, and therefore it doesn’t matter much what they think, because if they get out of line you can control them — for their own good, of course. But once you lose the club, you know, once the State loses its capacity to coerce by force, then you have some problems. The voice of the people is heard — you’ve got all these formal mechanisms around that permit people to express themselves, and even participate, and vote, and that sort of thing — and you can’t control them by force, because you’ve lost that capacity. But the voice of the people is heard, and therefore you’ve got to make sure it says the right thing. And in order to make sure it says the right thing, you’ve got to have effective and sophisticated propaganda, again, for their own good.
So in a- as a society becomes more free — that is, there’s less capacity to coerce — it simply needs more sophisticated indoctrination and propaganda. For the public good.
The similarity between this and Leninist ideology is very striking. According to Leninist ideology, the cool observers, the radical intelligentsia, will be the vanguard who will lead the stupid and ignorant masses on to, you know, communist utopia, because they’re too stupid to work it out by themselves.
And in fact there’s been a very easy transition over these years between one and the other position. You know, it’s very striking that continually people move from one position to the other, very easily. And I think the reason for the ease is partly because they’re sort of the same position. So you can be either a Marxist-Leninist commissar, or you can be somebody celebrating the magnificence of State capitalism, and you can serve those guys. It’s more or less the same position. You pick one or the other depending on your estimate of where power is, and that can change.
The- and in fact the mainstream of the intelligentsia, I think over the last, say, through this century, have tended to be in one or the other camp. Either- there’s this strong appeal of Marxism-Leninism to the intelligentsia, for obvious reasons — I don’t have to bother saying. And there’s the same appeal of these doctrines to the intelligentsia, because it puts them in the position of justifying- of having a justified role as ideological managers, in the service of real power, corporate/State power. For the public good, of course. So you naturally are tempted to one or the other position.”
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“The- a presidential- well-known historian, presidential historian, Thomas Baily, explained in 1948, that because the masses are notoriously short-sighted, and generally cannot see danger until it is at their throats, our statesmen are forced to deceive them into an awareness of their own long-run interests. Deception of the people may, in fact, become increasingly necessary, unless we are willing to give our leaders in Washington a freer hand.
In other words, if we continue this nonsense of trying to control them through elections, and that sort of thing, it’s going to be necessary to have deception of the people, because the masses are too stupid and ignorant to understand the danger that’s at their throat. And that’s the role of the media, to carry out the appropriate deception.”
“The- but now this crisis of democracy had erupted. What had happened was, during the 1960s all sorts of segments of the population that are normally apathetic and passive and obedient and don’t get in the way, began to become organized and vocal and raise questions and press their demands in the political arena, and that caused an overload. That caused a crisis of democracy. You couldn’t just govern the country with a few Wall Street lawyers and bankers any longer, you had all these other pressures coming from the general population, and that’s a problem. And we’ve got to overcome the problem. And the way to overcome the problem, they said, all three- the whole group, is to introduce more moderation in democracy to mitigate the excess of democracy. That means, in short, to return the general population to their apathy and passivity, and the obedience which becomes them. That’s the stupid and ignorant masses have to be kept out of trouble, and when you get these crises of democracy, you’ve got to restore the norm, what we had before.
Well, that’s a view that goes right back to the origins of the republic. If you read the sayings of the founding fathers, you will discover that that was essentially their view as well. They also regarded the public as a dangerous threat. The way the country ought to be organized, as John Jay put it, the president of the constitutional convention and the first supreme court- chief justice of the supreme court, his- one of his favorite maxims, according to his biographer, was that those who run- those who own the country ought to govern it. And if they can’t govern it by force, they’ve got to govern it in another way, and that ultimately requires deception, propaganda, indoctrination, the manufacture of consent.”
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“The- but now this crisis of democracy had erupted. What had happened was, during the 1960s all sorts of segments of the population that are normally apathetic and passive and obedient and don’t get in the way, began to become organized and vocal and raise questions and press their demands in the political arena, and that caused an overload. That caused a crisis of democracy. You couldn’t just govern the country with a few Wall Street lawyers and bankers any longer, you had all these other pressures coming from the general population, and that’s a problem. And we’ve got to overcome the problem. And the way to overcome the problem, they said, all three- the whole group, is to introduce more moderation in democracy to mitigate the excess of democracy. That means, in short, to return the general population to their apathy and passivity, and the obedience which becomes them. That’s the stupid and ignorant masses have to be kept out of trouble, and when you get these crises of democracy, you’ve got to restore the norm, what we had before.
Well, that’s a view that goes right back to the origins of the republic. If you read the sayings of the founding fathers, you will discover that that was essentially their view as well. They also regarded the public as a dangerous threat. The way the country ought to be organized, as John Jay put it, the president of the constitutional convention and the first supreme court- chief justice of the supreme court, his- one of his favorite maxims, according to his biographer, was that those who run- those who own the country ought to govern it. And if they can’t govern it by force, they’ve got to govern it in another way, and that ultimately requires deception, propaganda, indoctrination, the manufacture of consent.”
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“The- but now this crisis of democracy had erupted. What had happened was, during the 1960s all sorts of segments of the population that are normally apathetic and passive and obedient and don’t get in the way, began to become organized and vocal and raise questions and press their demands in the political arena, and that caused an overload. That caused a crisis of democracy. You couldn’t just govern the country with a few Wall Street lawyers and bankers any longer, you had all these other pressures coming from the general population, and that’s a problem. And we’ve got to overcome the problem. And the way to overcome the problem, they said, all three- the whole group, is to introduce more moderation in democracy to mitigate the excess of democracy. That means, in short, to return the general population to their apathy and passivity, and the obedience which becomes them. That’s the stupid and ignorant masses have to be kept out of trouble, and when you get these crises of democracy, you’ve got to restore the norm, what we had before.
Well, that’s a view that goes right back to the origins of the republic. If you read the sayings of the founding fathers, you will discover that that was essentially their view as well. They also regarded the public as a dangerous threat. The way the country ought to be organized, as John Jay put it, the president of the constitutional convention and the first supreme court- chief justice of the supreme court, his- one of his favorite maxims, according to his biographer, was that those who run- those who own the country ought to govern it. And if they can’t govern it by force, they’ve got to govern it in another way, and that ultimately requires deception, propaganda, indoctrination, the manufacture of consent.”
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“Now, the way the media work, there are some media which kind of set the agenda, you know, the most important ones, like The New York Times and The Washington Post, big national media, they set the agenda. If the government wants a story to get into television that evening, what it does is leak it to get into the front page of The Washington Post and The New York Times, on the assumption that television will pick it up and say, ok that’s important, so we’ll give it the front news. The same is true of national television. It sets- it sets the agenda that makes people think. The New York Times front page is sent over the wire services the afternoon of the day before — there is a thing, if you read the- you know, you look at that stuff that’s ground out of the AP wire, you’ll notice around four o’clock comes something that says, The New York Times front page tomorrow is going to look like so-and-so. Well, if you’re an editor of a journal in some small town, you read it and you say, oh, that’s what the important news is, and you frame your own reporting that way. Now, you know, it’s not, sort of, a hundred percent, but there is a kind of an agenda setting media — New York Times, Washington Post, the three television channels, a few others that participate to some extent in this.
Well, ask yourself what those institutions are. Answer: those institutions are first of all major corporations, some of the biggest corporations in the country. Furthermore, they’re integrated with, and in many cases owned by, even larger corporations, you know, like General Electric, and so on. So what you have is major corporations and conglomerates. Now, like other corporations, they sell a product to a market. The market in this case is advertisers; that’s what keeps them alive. The product is audiences. They sell audiences to advertisers. In fact for the major media, they try to sell privileged audiences to advertisers. That raises advertising rates, and those are the people they’re trying to reach anyway.”
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“Now, the way the media work, there are some media which kind of set the agenda, you know, the most important ones, like The New York Times and The Washington Post, big national media, they set the agenda. If the government wants a story to get into television that evening, what it does is leak it to get into the front page of The Washington Post and The New York Times, on the assumption that television will pick it up and say, ok that’s important, so we’ll give it the front news. The same is true of national television. It sets- it sets the agenda that makes people think. The New York Times front page is sent over the wire services the afternoon of the day before — there is a thing, if you read the- you know, you look at that stuff that’s ground out of the AP wire, you’ll notice around four o’clock comes something that says, The New York Times front page tomorrow is going to look like so-and-so. Well, if you’re an editor of a journal in some small town, you read it and you say, oh, that’s what the important news is, and you frame your own reporting that way. Now, you know, it’s not, sort of, a hundred percent, but there is a kind of an agenda setting media — New York Times, Washington Post, the three television channels, a few others that participate to some extent in this.
Well, ask yourself what those institutions are. Answer: those institutions are first of all major corporations, some of the biggest corporations in the country. Furthermore, they’re integrated with, and in many cases owned by, even larger corporations, you know, like General Electric, and so on. So what you have is major corporations and conglomerates. Now, like other corporations, they sell a product to a market. The market in this case is advertisers; that’s what keeps them alive. The product is audiences. They sell audiences to advertisers. In fact for the major media, they try to sell privileged audiences to advertisers. That raises advertising rates, and those are the people they’re trying to reach anyway.”
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“Now, the way the media work, there are some media which kind of set the agenda, you know, the most important ones, like The New York Times and The Washington Post, big national media, they set the agenda. If the government wants a story to get into television that evening, what it does is leak it to get into the front page of The Washington Post and The New York Times, on the assumption that television will pick it up and say, ok that’s important, so we’ll give it the front news. The same is true of national television. It sets- it sets the agenda that makes people think. The New York Times front page is sent over the wire services the afternoon of the day before — there is a thing, if you read the- you know, you look at that stuff that’s ground out of the AP wire, you’ll notice around four o’clock comes something that says, The New York Times front page tomorrow is going to look like so-and-so. Well, if you’re an editor of a journal in some small town, you read it and you say, oh, that’s what the important news is, and you frame your own reporting that way. Now, you know, it’s not, sort of, a hundred percent, but there is a kind of an agenda setting media — New York Times, Washington Post, the three television channels, a few others that participate to some extent in this.
Well, ask yourself what those institutions are. Answer: those institutions are first of all major corporations, some of the biggest corporations in the country. Furthermore, they’re integrated with, and in many cases owned by, even larger corporations, you know, like General Electric, and so on. So what you have is major corporations and conglomerates. Now, like other corporations, they sell a product to a market. The market in this case is advertisers; that’s what keeps them alive. The product is audiences. They sell audiences to advertisers. In fact for the major media, they try to sell privileged audiences to advertisers. That raises advertising rates, and those are the people they’re trying to reach anyway.”
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“NOAM CHOMSKY: because the United States is a much freer- in fact the- what I’ve said about the United States, and I’ll say it again, it’s in many ways the freest society in the world. Sure there’s repression here, but it’s also a, by comparative standards, a very free society. In fact I think that’s one of the reasons it has such sophisticated thought control, as I tried to explain.
The capacity of the- the capacity of the State to coerce in the United States is relatively limited. You’re quite right that there’s plenty of oppression. I mentioned the FBI, which is the national political police, which is dedicated to oppression. That’s its job. It’s been doing it ever since it was founded. Well, you know, that’s inconsistent with the free society. But, again, by comparative standards, remember I’m talking about comparative standards, the United States is quite a free society. The capacity of the State to coerce, I think, is limited, probably- more so than any other society I know at least. So I don’t think that it would be correct to call it a dungeon.”
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“If you could get to the point where voting is simply the matter- a matter of selecting purely symbolic figures, then you would have gone a long way towards marginalizing the public. And that pretty well happened in the last eight years. You know, you had somebody who probably didn’t know what the policies were. His job was to read the lines rich- written for him by the rich folk — what he’s been doing for the last thirty or forty years. And he seems to enjoy it and he gets well paid for it, and everybody seems happy, but to vote for Ronald Reagan is like voting for the Queen of England. And that’s an advance.
I don’t really mean this as a joke, I think that’s an advance, you know, it’s progress in marginalizing the public. Part of marginalizing the public is, taking the formal mechanisms of participation which exist, and ensuring that they don’t lead to a crisis of democracy by being substantive. And what better method can you think of that simply reducing them to the selection of symbolic figures. I think that happened, and I think the press hasn’t covered it, though they doubtless know it.”
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“When does the government resort to covert activities? Well, typically, when the domestic enemy doesn’t allow it to carry out the activities in public. That’s when a government resorts to clandestine activities. Clandestine activities are difficult, complex, expensive, they carry the danger of being exposed. It’s much easier and more efficient to carry out violent activities overtly. And a government typically, our government in particular, when it resorts to clandestine activities, it’s usually because it’s afraid of the public.”
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“In fact if you look at what Lenin wrote after that period, or did, you’ll find it’s a reversion to the earlier position. This sort of left deviation, is that, a deviation. You could ask why. In my view it was just opportunistic. He knew that in order to gain power he was going to have to go along with the popular currents that were developing, which were, in fact, spontaneous and libertarian and socialist, as most popular movements are, have been, in fact, since the 17th century. And being an astute politician, which he was, he sort of went along with that, and talked the line that the people wanted to hear. It’s just like when an American politician goes somewhere, and his pollsters tell him, say so and so, he says it. It doesn’t mean he believes it. And I think Lenin was doing the same thing without polls.”
Wow.. This is tedious.
Indeed…Try reading the whole damn thing to get these excerpts. That was the heavy lifting.
Learn how to edit your post please.
Let’s Go Brandon FJB
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Hijacking a thread… ugh
Maybe read the posting rules of The last Refuge. Too long.
I need special time to read it. Not saying it’s not good.
Got. Carried. Away.
LOL
I got a lot out of it. Thanks.
Insidious
Good ol’ Noam. Brought out his “manufactured consent” views for Reagan, but evidentially, all those preceding were okay, and definitely, NONE of them were just “reading words written for them by rich folks” or whatever the phrasing was, or he would have said so in this excerpt, right? Without the snarky “actor” reference?
Noam and I have been in sync (when I was a lefty)… out of sync (for quite awhile)… and find ourselves back in sync now because his words about the media and the government/intel all working together for the purpose of spreading propaganda in order to fool silly Americans into thinking they are making choices for themselves are so obviously true now. The prob I have with him is, that he wasn’t out there banging the drums during the O years, during which — along with the years we’re in right now — all of this was never, ever, ever more true…
He only seems to find his voice when presidents he doesn’t approve of are in office. Right now, we have an actual “color revolution” going on, the left has never been MORE pro-gov, pro-intel, and pro-corporate, esp corporate media-...well, what do ya say, Noam? Where did ya go? No snarky remarks about how we could really use someone more experienced at reading lines about now, haha?
I don’t believe Mr. D. I believe the run for a second term as governor was in preparation for a potential shot at running for president. Of course, it depended on his winning. How much he won by would determine how the establishment would respond and how quickly. Elon may not have known just how deep the alphabets were tied in but I have a hard time believing he didn’t know they were going to be a problem.
Must be put into perspective. Out of the 44 billion , maybe 25 billion was EM. He also realizes he has more $ than he will ever need.
One good outcome was the co. can operate at 75 % less
of the employees than when he took over. Is this also true of fb,goog and others? Is that part of the deal that the companies must have all these extra employees.? How many politicians kin have received these EXTRA jobs.Pray and help others.
you’re onto something here
I have a much easier time believing that Musk didn’t know how thoroughly infiltrated Twitter was than I do believing Ron “I’m Not Running. No. Really.” DeSantis didn’t know campaign apparatus was being prepared for him.
Elon Musk was thwarted in his due diligence. But it was never about Twitter. It was about vengeance.
Here’s how the Elon thing went down:
Elon is not a MAGA patriot, but he is a patriot.
Elon is not a “conservative” (for whatever that descriptor still means today), but Elon has lost a son to the globohomo tranny agenda and he hates them with a burning fire that consumes him.
Elon suspected, but could not prove, Twitter shenanigans. He suspects Twitter was corrupt, guilty, and largely behind the forces that have taken his son from him and destroyed him.
Elon attempted to bring this to light via the proposed sale of twitter. It should have been brought forth at that time, but legal wranglings and maneuverings prevented it. Twitter attempted to hide its tracks well, and it did so with the assistance of the U.S. gov’t behind the scenes technically and with the “big club” judicial system thwarting him.
With the failure to disclose, as required, Elon attempted to back out of the sale and force Twitter to pay him $1 billion in forfeited escrow penalties, but was again thwarted by the big club.
So Elon went all-in with the purchase and decided to purge Twitter from within. It only cost him a fraction (a large fraction, but still just a fraction) of his wealth. He set about burning the corruption and evil in Twitter from the inside, gutting the rotten core and eliminating the rotten roots and stem of the poisoned tree.
He also believes in free speech. He believes in most classical liberal ideals. He believes that what he is doing is important for the future of the country, and for the future of the world. But that wasn’t why he did it. That was a bonus, and made it easier.
Elon would have done this for free. He would have done this had it cost him everything he had. This is war to Elon. They destroyed his son, took his son, brutalized his son. He will have his revenge if it costs him everything. And he’s perfectly fine bringing the entire thing down on their head if he has to.
Interesting take on Musk buying Twitter.
Has the ring of truth to it.
Thanks for your post.
If that is Elon’s true argument I am with him. Nothing goes above your family.
Fabulist nonsense…………!
Musk does love making kids. He is the white equivalent of Nick Cannon.
So what? The rest of America except for the Christians are killing their babies.
Wow. Will have to do my research. Wasn’t aware of any of this, and it’s fascinating….
Not sure about Elon because…he’s different.
As for DeSantis: I feel he’s just a politician doing political things. He pushes back well but I don’t get the feeling he has much experience on the creation/forward side. That is Trump’s strength: He can see things that aren’t yet there and bring them into being. Trump is good for America..
It is not possible for me to believe Musk did not know. From the beginning, whether it be google, fakebook, how on earth could one not know. Google mapped virtually the entire planet, let alone all of the other things. There is no business model that could support that. I have complained about this for years. To read Sundance’s analyses was incredibly comforting to me, because few would grasp it.
How Elon, a person incredibly successful, and quite well in-tune with “government” could not know, makes zero sense.
Neither Musk nor DeSantis are telling the truth.
You have no evidence to support your claim. It’s an opinion.
Musk may not aways be sensitive to fine nuances because he is autistic/Aspergers
It’s impossible for any individual to be ‘smart’ in even a fraction of all the things required in order to make the world work.
This is the key fallacy of centralized control. This is why it has ‘always’ failed vs a system based upon natural rights governed by the so simple principle of doing onto others as you would have them do unto you. Life, Liberty, and Property, and in that order I might add. Hence the natural right to defend yourself is first and foremost.
Even if you have some super brain that is 100x smarter than the average person you are completely clueless about the vast majority of all the other important aspects that keep civilization going.
One of the most complex mass-produced machines on this Earth is a commercial airplane.
I assure you that while people working to make it are ‘locally’ very smart about their particular function, no one in the process has nearly anywhere near the level of intelligence to produce it from scratch. And yet I have personally seen, over and over again, these amazing vehicles roll out of the factory and fly a few weeks later.
Flown by pilots that don’t know how to build them, managed by air traffic controllers that don’t know how to fly them, relying on computers and radars they couldn’t build, program or power.
Heck, the central planners can’t even make something as deceptively simple as a pencil. And yet they think they are so so smart. What fools they must be.
So Elon Musk is a smart guy, as humans come, but his true genesis is building a large ‘network’ of other smart individuals, that collectively, are many orders of magnitude smart than he could ever hope to become in a billion lifetimes.
Musk and desantis are liars. If you actually believe they had no knowledge then i have some swampland in florida to sell ya, of course for a good price.
I remember Trump telling Hillary that he knew all the loopholes written in the tax code because he had used them himself for years.
During those years,Hillary and others thought Trump was a player just like they were.
He wasn’t.
He was collecting evidence against them and coordinating his successful presidential run in 2016.
Truth:
Trump played the system and could/can effectively take the system down now with insider knowledge and leverage collected over the players.
This includes his plan to destroy the US Tax code, international money laundering, Epstein Island, International Banking, Crooked Lawyers,Blackmailers, and assorted other Liars, etc.
Spying works both ways.
FISA works both ways too.
Brilliant.
Musk is similar to Trump.
Musk’s infiltration of the system includes Electric cars, SpaceX, Twitter, DOD contracts, A.I. and more.
They never saw Trump or Musk coming.
They assumed that both were after power/money and rewarded them with plenty of both.
This mistake of trusting Trump and Musk cannot be undone now.
Musk and Trump fooled them all, royally.
The mountain of cold, hard evidence against the dirtiest players in the world is in the hands of these 2 genius infiltrators.
Trump and Musk look like Batman and Robin
Cabal is screwed from within.
They left a mountain of well documented evidence behind because they trusted the wrong 2 guys.
Twitter can show us everything when the time is right.
We are at the precipice of a systemic collapse of putrid, prurient evil here and abroad.
Infiltration, not invasion.
Peace is the prize.
Happy Easter.
Wow…..just wow!!
Happy Easter to you as well.
^^^^ YES! YES! YES!
I’ve always said, Trump always rubbed elbows with these cabal members. And he would donate to them to gain trust and get things moved his direction. But they never fully trusted him because he wouldn’t participate in all their reindeer games, as I call them. When they would have their “eyes wide shut” parties he wouldn’t participate in the most depraved things. Which always gave them pause. That’s why, for decades, they always took subtle jabs at his character just to try and keep him in check. Hence the playboy monicker, highlighting his divorces over the years, his chapter 11 restructurings of his businesses.
None of these things are truly bad when you look at them with a spec of intelligence. So, since Trump wouldn’t go to the after hours events with these people and due the depraved things the cabal was doing, probably to little children, they always worried he may run for office and go after them. But they never buried him because he donated large sums to them from time to time. He played them good.
Trump is one of us, if we had managed to build an empire over decades. He had the balls to rub elbows with these monsters just to make sure he was close enough to them to get the dirt he needed. And to make sure his suspicions were correct.
He knew he would eventually right the wrongs they had done to America and to his fellow man. He waited until he was up there in age, had lived his best life, and was ready to risk it all to take them down. In 2015 he had reached that point. And now he’s like King Kong at the top of the Empire State Building wreaking havoc on the cabal. Smashing dive bombers and tossing heathens off the building.
Trump loved Reagan, he loved the country that afforded him the ability to live an amazing life. And now he wants to repay that to the rest of the world. And show them how great things can be. And Trump genuinely wants to be loved. He’s a good guy and he sees the level of good that is truly in all of us. And he wants others to have the chance to do that, and he wants to go down in history as the guy that risked it all to make it happen. There is nothing wrong with wanting to go down In history as a benevolent leader who selflessly risked it all for the rest of us. People he never even knew personally.
What I’ve written is my absolute full on belief in what and how PDJT did and got to where he is today.
“The degree to which government agencies effectively had full access to everything that was going on on Twitter blew my mind, I was not aware of that,” said Musk.
Maybe there is a clue is in the word “degree”. He know about government involvement but the “degree” blew his mind?
In regards to Ron. He is wearing goal posts for a back pack and keeps moving around.
I am an accountant and I have performed due diligence on buying a company. There is no way Musk’s team did not study the revenue flows into Twitter. How could they miss the payments from the government? Nobody spends 44 billion and does not understand the revenues.
Add to that his other businesses that are involved in government. On top of that, add his business friends (Thiel et al.) who have more fingers in more global government pies.
Then you can take their respective shared personal security units who also have a rumor mill.
If a 21 year old can get state secrets by showing up every other weekend, think what someone plugged in can do…
What payments from the government?? If the government is supplying people, hardware, and facilities, they aren’t going to be sending money to Twitter. You can best believe those capital AND operating costs are buried in federal bookkeeping.
That is why every buy/sell agreement has an evaluation process. No savvy business man would enter an agreement without one. Your keen eyed is aimed at operating cost, however no audit would be complete until the ‘Juice’ or revenues are thoroughly understood. Due diligence teams are typically split between revenue and cost. When the teams go on site it is a 24/7 endeavor. You talk of nothing else because you know at the trip’s ends, you must stand in front of your boss and make your best recommendations.
The correct answer is Musk, like other tech frontmen, is just another gigolo of the Fourth Branch.
If he weren’t, he wouldn’t be where he is today – either he’d have rejected their overtures decades ago, or he’d have been quietly take out if, during his ascendancy, he showed signs of disloyalty. Carrot and stick.
There are no Alexander the Greats any more, there are no Caesars, no Khans, because there can’t be.
There are pretend Alexanders and Caesars and Khans, but that’s just for the narrative engineering. No one is really at the top, because modern technology precludes a Leviathan – present power systems are just an interlocking system where if anyone steps out of line, they’re disposed of.
Billionaires don’t get to be billionaires not knowing stuff. Especially stuff related to their billions. Musk is no exception.
DeSantis’ not knowing is even more laughable. He’s a career politician for goodness sake! How could he not know?
Both these guys are like all the rest of the ruling class elites flying way above us. Just lie to the little people. Big deal.
As CountryDoc pointed out above, Elon Musk is in a lot of businesses. What are those businesses and who are his customers? Even Tesla buyers get a helping hand from government in the form of a subsidy for purchasers of EVs. Elon Musk did not get to be the second wealthiest man in the world by not understanding how things really work (double negative, I know). Every voluntary transaction has a willing seller (in this case, the DHS division of our National Security State), and a willing buyer (in this case, Elon Musk). Each has his own good and sufficient reasons to engage in the transaction.
IF…IF..these assertions were to be taken at face value, just how stupid are DeSantis and Musk…one has no business in the Oval Office and the other deserves to go bankrupt. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
L.E.V.E.R.A.G.E
Pure and simple. It’s just business, big, big business.
If you spend $44 billion on a business acquisition only to find out it was a government hot bed of disinformation, espionage and propaganda, and you aren’t in court attempting to claw back your investment to some extent, then said person or business is 100% in on it. The only outside chance he’s not, is if what he’s found has an intrinsic value that is unseen to the outside spectator.
But if it’s the latter, that value most likely comes from the ability to Blackmail the federal government and intelligence community. To which my thinking is, that’s not a smart card to play as those people can erase you and your wealth from this earth. Which leads us back to the first option, he was in on it unless we see him take the former board of Twitter to court for damages and fraud.
In Desantis case, if you’re asking if I believe whether or not he knew he was testing the waters to whether or not he should run for president, yes he knew. That’s not even debatable. IF for some odd reason he didn’t know, then he’s too dumb to even pretend to be president. He would be a bigger mess than Brandon.
As for Musk, a simple question:
Has Musk fired all of the FBI, CIA and other government personnel who were actively reporting to of following orders of the government, who he was surprised to find in twitter ?
Baker is gone, but what about all the rest?
There are only 1500 people left… so, I think it is fair to assume that yes, he has purged the Twitter!
I think that Dorsey and Musk talked before the Twitter offer was made. Given actions/comments/tweets by Dorsey, I suspect he was pretty frank with his “friend” Elon, but with the condition that Elon had to pretend not to know. Not that I trust Elon’s motives in many things, but I do believe both he and Dorsey felt that the government’s control of Twitter needed to be exposed. Further, Musk is a risk taker, and believes in his ability to evaluate/navigate complex situations. Given his entanglements, the outcome of Musk v. Deep State will be interesting.
Ambitious DeSantis has been lying all along.
I doubt either made any purchase ot choice, while being disconnected from the details, both small and large.
Maybe during contract negotiations it was put in such a way for each to be able to claim deniability.
Elon is for all practical purposes the head of a company producing the modern day plug in Edsel, government funded at that. Prostitution more times than not, has nothing to do with sex.
That brings us to Ron….
To be honest, you need to add Tucker Carlson. Those three all are trying to ride and control the momentum of the American First populist movement. They all are saying and doing the right things to sit on that horse. As long as they are there, there is no need for anyone else. No need to watch a different commentator, no need to seek a better governor, and no need to go to another social media site. Once their positions are secure, it will be interesting to listen to what is whispered in the ear of that horse.
DeSantis is laser focused, and was during his campaigning for reelection. I’m sure he knew the chatter he would leave Florida high and dry for a run at Presidency, and he assured us he wouldn’t. After awhile, it all becomes noise. Immediately after his re-election, the media resumed to pitting DeSantis against Trump. It’s dividing the party, and that’s the goal. Divide and Conquer. I think that’s the last thing DeSantis wants. He’s a man of integrity, and he won’t run in 2024.
DeSantsi knew the moment those big Presidential checks started entering his medium Governor’s reelection bank account. As a matter of fact, I read that his reelection campaign staff are still on payroll. But the Campaign is not paying their salaries, the Florida GOP is paying their salary as they wait in the bull pin for DeSantis to launch his campaign. He knew.
Correct.
DeSantis is obviously lying.
Musk? Lots of smart people do stupid things.
I remember a story from real estate law. A realtor sold a house. The new owners go to sleep in the master bedroom and wake up to what they assume is an earthquake. They discover that the well pump was put directly under their bedroom. New homeowners sue. Realtors defense was basically that he did not check for elephants in the closet either or who would know to check for that if not disclosed. Old homeowners were like, well it was always that way, nothing unusual to them. Who would know to go looking for Jack’s Magic Coffee shop? Musk is no angel but it is possible that he made a mistake or has another angle.
That Elon Musk did not gauge the depth of government involvement,….like president Trump did not gauge it that way, …. like most of us did, I can accept.
Like our President, Elon also unveiled the depth of it. But there must have been knowledge.
Sundance initiated us in Jack’s Coffee House.
Musk’s exploratory team should have found out. At least a lot of it.
Mr. Meatball is what he is.
I don’t believe either of them. There are things going on in the background of which we are not aware.
Let me throw another one on the table for the great pretenders game.
Did Congress know what Elon says he didn’t know?
I had a pro Ukraine war, pro jab coworker ask me about these recently. He’s having his doubts, particularly as jab side effects are no joke, and Ukraine has turned into a debacle for America.
I just looked at him and said, “I wake up every morning, and regardless of what I hear on the news, I think ‘How are they lying to me today?’ The masks were always a lie, now we know. The jabs were always unsafe illegal drug trials conducted on people without their consent, treating people as Guinea pigs, now we know. Ukraine was always about another neocon war mixed with money laundering for the Government Party. Men can’t become women. How are they lying to me today?”
My first assumption in all situations involving the government, big companies, or both, is that they’re lying.
I’ve never felt let down or proven wrong in this regard.
I would like to know what your pro-jab co-worker replied to this
Right? Kinda left us hangin’ there!
Lying liars lie. Fool me once and I’m onto them.
Such people become adept at lying for no reason at all. Just flexing their lying muscles is a good enough reason for them to lie continuously.
Why people choose to *believe* these liars is a whole nother story.
As Sundance has pointed out many times on these pages: we live in an era of great pretending.
To wit: I’m intimately familiar with the cyber security industry. I can’t even begin to tell you the number of CEOs (and other executives) who make claims about what their products are capable of that simply aren’t true. Product management and engineering are doing one thing, while the executives yammer on about something else altogether. And they don’t want to be told otherwise either, they’re surrounded by yes men who ensure that the PE ratios remain highly inflated. All while the products and services themselves rapidly diminish in value and capability. Yet they claim silos and “plausible” deniability when confronted. Its an incredible disconnect, but yet it’s there.
Ron knows, even if he initially didn’t want to know. We know he’s pretending, and he knows that we know.
The jury is still out on Elon: you only get to see what they want you to see during M&A due diligence. I suspect he had a suspicion, but even the scale shocked him. Compartmentalization, by design, in many parts of corporate America can make the Swamp seem like a bunch of pikers.
My .02
Musk is full of shit! We know that DeSantis is a sell-out, what more is there to talk about?
I also believe the Musk scenario more than that DeSantis one. That said, I retain the knowledge that I still just don’t know and probably won’t ever know the truth. All I can do is add up the pieces… To me, the biggest question is what does each gain?
I don’t believe Musk had anything to gain with his purchase. He had more than enough money to waste on exposing Twitter and there doesn’t seem to be any obvious gain financially. I think many are driven by money, but when a guy like Musk already has it, and doesn’t seem to have any avenue of making more, then what is the gain for him? Maybe he is his own version of wealthy sickos like Gates who just want to influence/control the lives of others? I haven’t seen this yet though. You can see it right through Gates.
DeSantis is different. What is the gain? Well, what is the gain for any politician? More power, more control, more money. I haven’t see one aside from Ron Paul that has not struck me as seeking to rise through the political ranks.
My impression is that DeSantis is trying to be slick. I don’t think he needed to go that route, but I don’t see him changing course at this point. He’s the Uniparty doll. I don’t get that feeling from Musk. I think he speaks from the heart/head without anyone’s guidance.
Musk continues to surprise me. But I think he may be too far gone into AI to dial it back now.
Musk is seemingly intrigued by transhumanism and its lure of immortality. If only he understood he must first trade his soul in exchange for a poor substitute, a mirage.
Humanity is a blessing from our God, the Creator of life everlasting. Don’t sell yourself short, Elon. There’s no comparison.
I’d lie too if I paid $44b for a sewer.
DeSantis is not going to be the nominee so all of his donor driven actions are going to put him forever in the Jeb-Niki never gonna happen woodshed.
He sacrificed a potential 12 year republican run WH due to vanity.
“Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.”
I don’t believe either but consider RdS’s lie to be bigger than Musk’s lie. They are both lies from my viewpoint.
Well to the idea that he didn’t know, is it just as believable that Trump didn’t know the extent of the control as he was running? And won ? And re ran in 2020? Yes I think it is.
Personally, I think both Musk and DeSanctus are LIARS who lie so often that they can’t distinguish between a lie and the truth. I feel that both of them are merely parroting their father–the “father of lies,” who has no truth in him. While we certainly don’t know their hearts, I am judging them based on their “fruit.”
Anyone who is all in for transhumanism thinks he can be God (i.e., Musk), and anyone who willingly and regularly stabs a “friend” (i.e., Trump) in the back, like DeSanctus has, can’t be trusted as far as I can spit.
To me, when RDS uttered the words, porn star” he was finished. “I can’t speak to blah blah blah …” Amateur hour, in my opinion. Think about it, did he speak off the cuff? Like, oh I don’t know, Biden? 🤭
It seems to me that was his “Bud Light Dylan Mulavey” moment from which there is no return.
I believe Elon Musk.
Maybe he had SUSPICIONS of what was happening but no proof.
I am also of the opinion that he likes free speech and thats another reason he bought Twitter–UNLIKE DE SANTIS
WHO WANTS ALL BLOGGERS TO REGISTER WITH HIS GOVERNMENT.
I also have a niggling suspicion that someone on the inside of Twitter reached out to him and told him to buy
Twitter to clear out the rot.
Jack maybe?
Someone else?
Who knows
A whole lot of people here pretend to know far more than they actually know.
My takes is that Musk is all about the LEVERAGE. He is integral to many government directives, yet he plays all sides when it is best for him.
DeSantis is new version of Mike Pence.
1st: have decided, to never trust before verify! I watch, read many different sources, & follow info over time. I remember when Musk decided, NOT to purchase Twit, possibly that was the START of his understanding of the infiltration. As time is progressing he seems to be taking steps to weed out what he can, but it’s a bit like PDT draining the swamp, a much bigger task than realized. He seems to be making changes where he can as time has progressed. Again, as MANY others have said, righting a ship if done too quickly, will destroy it. He wants to make it profitable & sell it or hire someone else to operate it.
SIDE BAR: Making this statement up front: many other ppl seen as “egocentric,” are actually ppl who have a strong confidence in themselves/skills, built over time, & are not afraid of change/new.
I had a boss that came from the “big city” to our little “country town.” to help keep a small chain of a grocery businesses from bankruptcy. I was a Dept manager at the time. In the beginning I was influence by other employees, this guy had a head bigger than NYC. However, over a “short period” of time, as I observed the changes he was implementing were working, (not only that we added 2 more stores in other towns close by) he simply had “confidence” in himself & what he was doing. He was great at implementing “new ways,”(chagrin) and if they didn’t work, well he simple move on to what would work. He had already been “creating another plan,” so to speak. Because my own confidence was small, I was failing to grow, I had labeled him wrongly! He ended up mentoring me and have been thankful ever since.
Back to Musk: He is a business man interested in investing in businesses, especially for expansion of the future. Space X-Starlink, Tesla(energy) Much of his (Musk’s) intentions r to improve humans conditions. His wanting to “chip the brain” (Neuralink) started w/a desire to provide better use, for those w/artificial limbs or brain damaged individual. He also developed Open AI making it opened source 4 others to use for good. Other nefarious users of these technologies hv bad intentions for the same use.
DeSantis is another person in the GOP/RNC masses, to be abused by his abusers for $$$, as they strive to defeat PDT. How many of us grew up under certain “indoctrinations,” that we now find repulsive?? Until DeSantis realizes he too, has been hornswoggled, he will continue to be influenced by his peers. He has done much to help FL but also has more to do to firm up the policies conservative Floridians want for the state.
Truth be told When The H3LL Are The Biden Indictments Going to Be Served or Even the Obama, Clinton, Holder, Pelosi or any other American Globalist
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In all honesty, I cannot imagine any one making such a purchase without an honest assessment of the profitability of the thing. Now, in some ways (on a much smaller scale, of course) I can see how someone can get taken for a ride.
Given that Musk funded the AI he warning everyone about, and somehow he lost control of that, perhaps he has so much money that losing $44b to him is no more than me losing $44 dollars. Yes, I’d be frustrated, but in the long run, it wouldn’t be a stretch to overcome the loss.
I do sense that he is being honest about not realizing the tentacles the government had/has inside Twitter. It might be naive, but it strikes me he is giving an honest reaction. I don’t, however, believe he has “our” best interests at heart like PDJT does, but he has children and perhaps wants to keep some semblance of a human inhabited world. I am also concerned about his dalliance with the satanic realm.
Ron Desanctus, no. I can’t give him as much credit for honesty as I give Elon Musk. I believe Desanctus bought into the belief he could actually compete with PDJT for the presidency. I remember when President Trump promoted Desanctus, I thought it a horrific mistake. Although a Floridian at the time, I did not like him but Gillam would have been a disaster.
No, I don’t trust or like Desanctus. I have also “heard” through the grapevine of course, that his wife is even more ambitious than he is. He is willing to be bought and scripted.
Musk is innocent!
He made an impulse purchase based on emotion and bravado.
First, twitter wouldn’t tell him how many bots there were.
Second, do you really think they would have ever told him about government involvement?
twitter lied and obfuscated. An outsider is helpless. Ever tried to find a good dog breeder? Impossible, they lie through their teeth.
I think the best you can say is “I think this is true/not true”. We don’t have enough evidence to know for sure. So, at best, it’s just opinion and doesn’t really matter.
There is no way the fact of government running Twitter was not disclosed to Elon. Did a few $B in M&A in tech. It’s laughable.
I have a question? If our government in the way of IC was running Twitter, why did they sell Twitter to Elon Musk only to be found out? Where else has the IC embedded itself? Are we to believe that IC has been totally removed from Twitter? Maybe now a different entity has now embedded Twitter like the CCP since Musk got his financing from them.
Oh, look, the tooth fairy just flew past me. Let me listen to what she has to say. The winged wench has more credibility to me than whatever Musk or RDS spews.
Both of these men are owned by the Deep State. Without allegiance to their masters — neither would be where they are right now. Neither would have a pot to piss in.
Sure, Musk sounds credible. The powers that be are not going to put a total idiot in place to assure the rebel rousers that all is well. We are being played. IMO
I remember when Dr. Shiva found the portal on Twitler from a special with his now infamous spider chart on OAN before it left DirecTv. Elon knows child labor fuel his vehicles. He turns monkey brains to guacamole dip with his chips. The devil leathers still don’t excite me. And his birthing partner Grimes freaks me out. DeSeaIslandsantis is a dadgum case of voter’s remorse.
33 billion dollars of surplus tax dollars in Florida’s coffers says you’re wrong. Thank you Gov DeSantis for making Florida Great!
They ain’t spent a cent on anything that matters here so WGAF pal! We are on the verge of total Californication and that timeshare hustler we were allowed to elect is pulling a Charlie Crist move after Charlie Crist called him out on it on the Campaign trail! Regular longtime/lifetime Floridians are being priced out of existence!
Everyone everywhere in the country is being priced out of existence. That is what socialism/communism does.
He is holding all those tax dollars when people in the state are still waiting for help from Hurricane Ian……..??
DeSantis is a shill for the multinational corporations and banks and can’t do a thing to help ordinary people. Like he’s raising electric rates in June and straightening out the mess in insurance might actually help somebody.
“Go Fund Yourself.” – Build Kiev Better
Brad Paisley and Joe Manchin singing “Country Roads” in Kiev
https://rumble.com/v2hzqrs-brad-paisley-and-joe-manchin-singing-country-roads-in-kiev.html
Manchin is a fraud. RFK has put Manchins Oval Office run in the toilet. Now it’s time for the West Virginia voters to flush him out of the Senate!
He’s a Harvard-minted politician with a law degree that is purely ceremonial. Just another Ivy looking for perpetual employment on the public dole, a ticket to The Big Club and a robust source of narcissistic supply.
It’s become a signature lifestyle; a syndrome; an affliction; a cult movement in modern society. It seems to manifest as a domination psychopathy; a malignant need to usurp and monetize the rights of others.
They are anti-mutualists. They want two sets of rules. What represents greater anathema in our society than anti-mutualism? It doesn’t matter what their politics are, anti-mutualism is the determining filter that nails the identity that threatens us all.
Two sets of rules. Special rules for special people, for us but not for you. This is anti-mutualism. This the very root of the very worst that has gone wrong in our culture today.
What makes Trump different? He made his money on the street; from commerce in the most competitive of all market sectors. He donated is POTUS salary 100% to charity. He told The Big Club to kiss his ass and instead challenges them to join The Real Club; the real club of everyday Americans who make nation possible in myriad ways; who attend it and defend it with their blood and treasure; whose life on Main Street and the many thousands of small communities is visceral and real and local; present and viscerally engaged each day; citizens without whom there would be no America.
The Big Club wants to have it both ways. Hubris has left them so entitled they think it will never change. They crave permanence at the expense of everyone else.
The people giveth and the people taketh away. That’s how our maker made us.
Identifying and stigmatizing Anti-mutualism creates the scalpel that separates the worst from the better in our continuing American experiment community. Nothing else about personal politics, beliefs or attitudes matters more or is more determinative of the risk they pose to our fundamental purpose as a nation of human being, individual rights and equal protection under the law.
We need to wisen up, smash the narrative programmed into us, grasp the truths self evident and attenuate the pathology of the anti-mutualists in our midst. They are a vulgar and disgusting lot. That they are anti-mutualism says it all.
Yes, it’s time for a peasant revolt before it’s too late.
Do you think Ron will sell me the MAGA hats his kids wore in their Trump commercial?
The Courage to be Cheese: A political shoe print for career survival.
Make Ron Poor Again? Increase Fees Better…
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“Courage To Be Cheese”
Fungus-brained Brad Paisley’s next single. Maybe Manchin will do the backup vocals.
And Nashville will figure out how to turn it into money. They always do.
Nothing worse than a communist traitor redneck…
I feel the same about Lee Greenwood. Really big disappointment.
It’s all an act to make you believe he is something he isn’t. He’s a Karl Rove/Ryan/Bush et al controlled RINO.
Kasich did the same for Ohio but look what we got when he left office.
There was a very big surplus way before DeSoros.
I think DeSantis is sincere, or he would not be taking on the controversial battles that he is fighting in Florida. But he is surrounded by insincere GOP apparatchiks. With his SMARTS and MILITARY background I would love to see DeSANTIS AS TRUMP’S SECRETARY OF DEFENSE…and kick all the “woke” OUT of our military!
This!^
DeSantis is only taking on “Woke” culture. The issues in 2024 are the economy and foreign affairs. How does spending millions on lawyers so he can “pay back” Disney help the economy? And now he is proposing building a prison next to Disney. Guess he’s going to pay back all those parents and kids who would like to visit, but not with a prison next door.
And DeSantis is a neocon who wants to continue the conflict in Ukraine. He actually sent the FL National Guard to train Nazi troops. Secretary of Defense when his only military experience was as a Jag officer at Guantanamo.
Do you think Kievnam Kerry will team up with the Kay Kay Gay and Pride March Better into Nation Building Great Again?
Everything Woke Turns to Sh!T
“You know what woke means? It means you’re a loser.
“Everything woke turns to sh!t. It’s true.”
https://odysee.com/@Trump_Won_2020:b/Trump—You-know-what-woke-means–It-means-youre-a-loser.-Everything-woke-turns-to-shit.-Its-true.-08.21.21:2
His apparatchiks, like Rove, haven’t WON a major National campaign in TWENTY YEARS (2004) but they are sure enjoying cashing those big paychecks probably saying SUCKERS under their breath!!! 🤔
If he was sincere, do you think he would call out the GOP apparatchiks?
Dan Crenshaw has a military background. Trust the plan?
“There have been disappointments. Abu Gareb obviously was a huge disappointment during the presidency. Umm. Not havin’ weapons of mass destruction was a significant disappointment. I don’t know if you wanna call those mistakes or not, but they were — things didn’t go according to plan, let’s put it that way.”
– George W. Bush White House Jan. 12, 2009
https://www.revolver.news/2023/04/navy-seal-chief-eddie-gallagher-exposes-neocon-dan-crenshaw-disturbing/