Two quick juxtapositions to contemplate:
Just accepting things as they are presented to be, without laying opinion on the table.
♦ Mr. Elon Musk is saying he spent $44 billion to purchase a platform without any prior knowledge the U.S. Dept of Homeland Security (DHS) and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) was operating on the backbone of the communication platform he was purchasing.
Additionally, all due diligence that may have been conducted before the biggest expenditure in the history of social media networks, did not reveal this intelligence community operation, to him, until after the sale was complete.
Everything thereafter is based on this predicate.
♦ Mr. Ron DeSantis is saying he had no idea the apparatus of political constructs was creating a presidential campaign process over a period of two years that would require his ultimate approval and participation, during the period when he genuinely claimed to be running for reelection to be the 2022 Florida Governor.
Everything thereafter is based on this predicate.
Whether you believe these assertions to be true or not is entirely up to you.
However, with these two points in mind, what does that say about the current state of our national pretense?
Expand the discussion. I am very interested in how intellectually honest people view these assertions.
I think both Elon Musk and Ron DeSantis know more about what’s going on than they admit.
Especially DeSantis
Yes. Both are either lying about their foreknowledge or they are not very aware of their surroundings and are incompetent . . .
Trump didn’t know the full scale of the deep state prior to winning his presidency.
They definitely know more than what they are sharing.
I have the cut the cord a long time ago, and came across a series Online called “shooter” directed by Mark Wahlburg. Season 3 is playing out just like the real life movers and shakers today. Especially when they covered the bit about the take over of the supreme court
In the case of Musk, there may well be things he cannot easily say though he has intimated or hinted at many things including and especially how hard it is to untangle certain connections. But it certainly explains why Jack Dorsey was begging congress for a law regulating twitter and why he had long since stopped running the thing leaving it to the SJWs installed into the machine’s management.
As for DeSantis? He’s simply dishonest. All of the tells are there.
The feigned ignorance by both parties was clearly an attempt to skirt social, political, legal…or in Musk’s case to also avoid potential litigation or extralegal repercussions.
I believe the corrupt FEDS still have complete access to Twitter
Likely.
I think most of us remained dumbfounded at how dumb people attempt to portray themselves. The constant chaos is starting to take a toll on me.
this! me too! I am literally exhausted with the chaos!
That’s what they want. As Sundance always says, live your best life! And Pray a WHOLE LOT!
yes more and more prayers every day!
God Bless you Michele! We’ve already won the battle but sometimes it’s really hard to remember that. Blessings
All the flimsy statements and explanations wear me out.
Why would anyone support people that tell us they are oblivious to the obvious. Millions/Billions being spent and no intellectual curiosity…
No thank you. Hard Pass.
Oblivious to the obvious…..that covers a whole bunch of what is going on 24/7.
Especially when someone like me, a zero nobody, has understood for a very long time what has been going on for decades. I am not a rock born yesterday, I have some common sense, I find their coy ploys insulting and offensive.
They are both full of crap.
I’m with ERIC!
LOL! I’m glad I scrolled through before I posted.
Lying for money and lying for power.
Liars gotta lie.
It’s called lying. Children learn to lie at a very young age.
(1) musk probably didn’t know
(2) desantis is waiting for the deep state to take out trump and biden, JFK-style. then he’ll make his move
If Musk knew, he wouldn’t have begun illuminating and dismantling the hidden structure. If DeSantis didn’t know, he wouldn’t seem to be so obviously dissembling about it.
I lean towards Musk not knowing the full details but maybe having some inclination…
DeSantis has to know when major funding groups are gearing up.
Hard to believe Musk wouldn’t know everything with the amount of due diligence that takes place before a purchase this large. You’re talking six months or more of due diligence so it’s stretches the imagination that he just didn’t know.
And if he didn’t do the necessary due diligence then that just raises more questions..
The amount of money Ron DeSantis has raised is all the proof we need that he’s been aware of a Presidential run for some time.
See Eric comment above!
Ego explains so much.
How does Hillary think she’s a great leader, or Romney Etc?
Psychofants fawning
I see you are still posting assassination porn.
Really? Would you buy a used car, but not drive it to check it out?
I agree that Musk didn’t know the extent of the government involvement, though clearly he knew something was off because he’d commented on it before. But he is an exceptionally busy and distracted guy, and I cut him a lot of slack.
Tesla revolutionized the auto industry. SpaceX revolutionized the space industry. Tesla Energy revolutionized the renewable power industry. The Boring Co may in the end revolutionize the transportation infrastructure. Optimus may revolutionize the concept of labor. Neuralink may revolutionize both medicine and the ability to interface with the digital world.
This is quite a lot of one guy to keep track of. And I didn’t even include Tesla vodka, or the flame thrower 😉
When spending 40 billion, with a B, one should not be too busy to oversee it.
Following “elites” (corporate giants, politicians, entertainers, athletes, academics, etc.) in search of irrationality is like following a burning fuse in search of an explosive; one never has to wait very long.
Insert Picture of Suspicious Cat here!
My Mother used to call it “stretching the truth.”Had a better ring to it…
“I had no prior knowledge…. I read/heard about from the media.”
That is what Barry use to say
Nah, these guys are way too smart for that; we all figured it out.
Would Mr. Musk have wanted plausible deniability , and instructed his team not to divulge what they found concerning government intrusion?
Limited hangout from Musk. DeSantis, I don’t know if he’s revealed anything truthful about his presidential campaign.
Limited hangout from Musk. I can almost hear his inside earpiece (neurolink). He has a handler.
Maybe AI 🤫
Truth? C’mon, man! That’s so 1950’s…
The term is conscious avoidance or deliberately avoiding or ignoring information or facts available to maintain a specific belief or avoid facing the consequences of the truth.
The reasons include:
Fear: They may be afraid of what they will discover if they face the truth, or fear the consequences that may result from acknowledging certain facts or information.
Cognitive Dissonance: They may hold certain beliefs or values that conflict with new information, and consciously avoid information that challenges their worldview to avoid the discomfort of cognitive dissonance.
Bias: They may have preconceived notions or biases that influence their perception of reality, leading them to selectively seek out information that confirms their existing beliefs.
Laziness: They may not want to invest the time or effort required to seek and evaluate new information, instead prefer to rely on their existing beliefs and assumptions.
Conscious avoidance is a common human tendency, but it can be harmful in many ways. It can prevent people from making informed decisions, learning new things, and developing a more accurate understanding of the world.
While conscious avoidance may help politicians achieve their short-term political goals, it can be harmful in the long run. It can erode public trust and prevent politicians from making informed decisions that benefit the public. However, some politicians may still use this strategy to minimize the potential damage and try to win the election.
Somebody is paying all these multi-billion$ bills.
Somebody..
Res ipsa loquitur—however, what the thing itself says is open to interpretation.
The possibility of the prima facie “I really had no idea” remains, however low. Could Musk or RDS really have been that dense? Was the entirety of due diligence in both cases ignored or skipped altogether? I have trouble believing that.
There is one alternative: The matter of degrees. Perhaps Musk didn’t dig enough, or was aware of the Fourth Branch infestation of the Coffee Shop—but not fully aware, or not cognizant of the severity of the breach.
RDS and his groomers are another question. The issue of degrees may apply t0 RDS.
Generally, though, something is very wrong. Narcissism, ambition, self-delusion seem to be rampant…it’s a full-spectrum illness, and it’s spreading vertically and horizontally.
100% both of them knew and knew virtually every tidbit of importance. In the DeSantis case he not only knew, but has been actively coordinating with the uniparty snakes.
I’ve heard that democrats and liberals have to “pretend NOT TO KNOW” things lol.
The national pretense is best symbolized by a “smiling, grinning creepy joe”, while he ignores even the fake press shouting questions at him. What corruption lmao!
Call me naive, but I would like to think of the altruism in Elon Musk’s motives. I often wonder why he claims not to have known this prior to purchasing the platform for billions – could it be he wanted to placate those he was about to expose by playing stupid so there would be less resistance to the purchase? Could it be no one would take it seriously if these accusations were made prior to the deal being finalized?
Makes sense to me
Could be…………….and at the same time, I can’t get out of my brain the costume he chose for halloween. Flat demonic. Not much altruism there. And I don’t think that choice reflected stupidity. If he’s that stupid, he has no business launching stuff into space.
That’s pretty much my thoughts on Elon too.
Now DeSantis? That’s a different matter. He can’t possibly be stupid enough that he didn’t realize he was being “groomed”. So hopefully his denials indicate he’s about to tell his handlers/backers to get lost. Not that that would make me trust the guy, but it would definitely be a positive move.
This Tree House and you, Sundance, are one of the main reasons (and mechanisms) of how I have become awake to the reality of politics and all other policies stemming from the singular agenda. I am thankful daily and eternally for what you’ve done to help me along that way. Once your eyes are open, it is impossible for a conscious, intelligent person to deny reality, and go back to not seeing. Although, what you are then forced to bear witness to, is sometimes truly horrific in its underlying truths and clearly foreseeable consequences, I would never go back to being a prisoner of the false matrix.
Alas, there are none so blind as those who won’t see.
It truly is horrific. I have been aware of the depth of evil for a while now, and I still find it hard. I cannot comprehend that people can be like this, yet the evidence in front of my eyes proves it to be true. And then there is more with each passing day. Just so horrific.
Indeed watching Biden en Kamala. I cannot believe my eyes.
“I cannot comprehend that people can be like this, yet the evidence in front of my eyes proves it to be true. And then there is more with each passing day. Just so horrific.”
I am never surprised by what I see, but I am often shocked by it. The Bible lays it out very clearly. It’s only going to get worse.
They have exchanged the truth of God for falsehood, by worshipping and serving created things, rather than the Creator — praised be he for ever. Amen. This is why God has given them up to degrading passions; so that their women exchange natural sexual relations for unnatural; and likewise the men, giving up natural relations with the opposite sex, burn with passion for one another, men committing shameful acts with other men and receiving in their own persons the penalty appropriate to their perversion. In other words, since they have not considered God worth knowing, God has given them up to worthless ways of thinking; so that they do improper things. They are filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and vice; stuffed with jealousy, murder, quarrelling, dishonesty and ill-will; they are gossips, slanderers, haters of God; they are insolent, arrogant and boastful; they plan evil schemes; they disobey their parents; they are brainless, faithless, heartless and ruthless. They know well enough God’s righteous decree that people who do such things deserve to die; yet not only do they keep doing them, but they applaud others who do the same.
Romans (Rom) 1:25-32 CJB
https://bible.com/bible/1275/rom.1.25-32.CJB
No one buys a business of ANY kind without doing “due diligence”. He many NOT have understood the extent but he knew.
Ron DeSantis has known what was going on and how he was being asked or prepped for this Presidential run.
My two cents.
By the time ANYTHING makes it public everything has already been planned and in motion.
I agree.
I do not believe that Elon Musk knew the full extent of Government control over Twitter.
There is no way that Twitter execs could/would let Elon Musk know before the sale.
Until he owned it, fired the execs and started investigating –there was no way that he would have been able to find out the full extent.
Anyone who has ever been part of an audit will understand what I am saying. Either performing the audit or being subject to an audit. It’s amazing the lengths some go to hide things.
DeSanctimonious….all I had to do is review all his actions from when he became Governor to see how staged and scripted he has always been. He, and his handlers, have been planning this for a long time …..
Elon is surrounding the planet with a network of satellites from his own space program. One of his companies builds cars that are on the road to being autonomous and can, literally, monitor every breath you take while in the car. He owns the largest social media company on the planet. Draw your own conclusions from that.
Desantis is irrelevant in the whole scope of things.
Also he can dig tunnels and hide things underground.
His satellites alone are an extraordinary power for one man to own. Think of his tiff with Ukraine and his power over the war there. Add in all his other interests and he reminds me of Bill Gates. Gates controls global vaccines and still has time to dally in poisoning the atmosphere and contaminating our food supply when he’s not busy screwing up education. You would have expected congress to curtail the power of an unelected, unaccountable individual to control the world. The conclusion I draw is that they both are connected to the agency.
Musk owns a human microchipping company, too.
Musk is already chipped. its like an ear reciever in his brain.
bingo.
These two prominent men~what they tell the public~is not the truth, at the very least it is not the whole truth. They conceal the truth behind a curtain in order to present themselves as constructs they want the public to see.
The analogy that came to mind is this one:
For a long time, I have believed that DeSantis was being positioned to be a “more palatable” republican nominee than Trump. Clearly he had to be in on that. I find the whole running but not really running thing he is doing to be pretty unappealing.
I am seriously not sure about Musk. I think you can make the case that the old Twitter regime knew the cat was about to be let out of the bag (or whatever the saying is), and they just needed a sucker to buy it and let them be free of it.
But Musk is no idiot. And all of his businesses are basically designed to operate off of government contracts or subsidies. Which Twitter, assuming he knew beforehand, fits right in with that model.
” Clearly he had to be in on that.”
For sure to a point, every actor needs a script and disposition in order to charge the character (as in movie character); however, in no way do I think DeSantis is privy to upper echelon high level planning as say Daddy Bush would be.
This, in fact, could be detrimental to character development. He was selected for certain characteristics and also a lack of factors. He was selected for a role in a much larger plot. We are watching literal stage craft at work, with the sole purpose of winning power, power to do things with. This is all that matters to them, there are no warm and fuzzies in this game, but for to win at all cost. It’s a machine, and one they can’t afford to let others outside of their control, … control.
Musk I can believe didn’t realize how big the scale was. Like, government runs Twitter big. Definitely knew Twitter was cozy with the feds, but again, the amount of control is shocking and staggering. It’s a straight up government run company and I can believe he didn’t realize that since they go to such lengths to hide it.
But rds? No question that he could see what was happening (and was influencing it). If he didn’t, we should worry about him being as dumb as biden.
I don’t know anything, however, Billionaires have their own intel folks at work, in one respect or another. I can’t fully accept that Elon didn’t know. I’m interested in reading other opinions and facts here, but this is where I’m at atm.
Indeed if Ron is this dense he has no business running for Executive Office.
The willing suspension of disbelief.
So Musk and the Meatball know now……what are they going to do??
Meatball has to address his voters and tell them :”I don’t know/ didn’t know anything about this””
Then look at the timing of his coming out.
Musk either didn’t know or he’s an incredible actor, much more convicting than DeBenadict.
However, it does raise an eyebrow. Musk builds insanely complicated modern marvels. He’s an engineer, visionary, and a literal ROCKET SCIENTIST. How did he not know the details? Or maybe the question is who are Musk’s advisors?
My view is the same as it was before I came to this site. And it has been that way developing from over 3 decades ago.
Everything we have ever been told about how are government operates, our real history, and what it means and where our individual & collective selves fits in has been a LIE! A deception for subversive reasons.
I have believed for many years that we have been living in a giant, methodically orchestrated and executed conspiracy from way back for the ‘elites’ to impoverish and enslave humanity. And I still do.
And outside of being ostracized and outcast by friends, colleagues and family for only skirting around the edges of this and related subjects, I have never discussed in length, detail or frequency as much as I have with this forum.
Finding this site a few years ago (much longer than the time I have been ‘engaged’ here) amongst the score or so of sites and publications I read every week, some everyday, I have found none where I felt where there were those who truly had a clue as to the ‘real deal.’
It may be hard for some to believe, but outside of using Linked In about 10-12 years ago, I have never engaged in ANY social media; or comment on any site to the best of my recollection except HERE!
And I am proud to be affiliated and somewhat accepted with and by this group of like minded individuals.
In succinct, my answer to your question(s) is: it’s all a SCRIPTED LIE (Musk & DeSantis)!
Your post rang many bells/similar gut feelings with me, Black Knight.
I am a seasoned citizen who has been blessed with good schooling, who still has her wits about her.
I am astounded that I did not realize until this past year that the people truly running my country, the United States of America, are and have been running it as an imperialistic pirate state for decades.
Oh, I knew some bad and untoward decisions and actions had occurred. But the fact that a shadow government has been working to effect regime change in multiple countries for many years? That a shadow government has been pirating natural resources from multiple countries for years? I have learned that our nation is run by (most are unelected) ruthless bullies.
I love my country as founded, under the Constitution. But that country is not really here anymore.
And has been since at least 1913, possibly the Civil War or shortly thereafter circa 1871-2. You need to do the research yourself. “Seek and ye shall find.”
I am in absolute agreement with all of your well spoken words.
There are just too many people that do and always will worship things, people, certain activities with a crazy need to
belong to empty meaningless groups/clubs.
So very fustrated with the lack of intellectual curosity I see everywhere.
As for these 2 particular individuals, let us pray for their souls and may GOD open their eyes to his TRUTH.
Seems like Musk should be suing the Federal Government for fraud. They stood buy and let him purchase the business without disclosing the depth of their involvement. That is a tort in my opinion. They are complicit in the coverup and should be held accountable. Good luck.
As for DeSantis. He is a tool of the left and RHINOS. If he was so stupid as to think he would not have to put any effort into the marketing of a president, is he really competent to be President – or is just going to be a more coherent Biden?
the fourth branch can frame, extort, threaten, and blackmail anyone. discerning motives in this environment adds another order of complexity.
Alfred J. Nock expressed Epstean’s Law, that people pursue the path they think, going in, will be the easiest.
They may well be mistaken, but that is what drives them.
All criminals are following Epstean’s Law.
Our politicians lie and double talk because that seems easier than truth telling.
Nikki Haley never gives a straight answer, and tricky Nikki sits at 1% in the polls, after several years of pursuing her Presidential ambition. But Haley remains convinced that double talk is the easiest path to her goal.
Haven’t follow Musk as much as DeSantis — but regarding DeSantis we are supposed to believe on the one hand that he is this brilliant leader who would make a great president and on the other hand wasn’t smart enough or informed enough to know that a presidential campaign was being prepped for him. Seems to me that much of what has already been done, would not have been done except for DeSantis months ago agreeing to be their man.
Although if he is a puppet in the hands of advisors some of this may have looked like a part of his book tour…either way if Rove and friends are pulling his strings NOPE.
Research A.I. and the evils it presents. Musk knows and may be willing to allow and push that ” experiment ” onto us.
Everything I have ever read about him says he likes to experiment with technology that has no benefit to humans.
I always speak the truth even when there will be backlash or however uncomfortable for people. I told my friends from the beginning that Elon was another dose of hopium and it would be highly controlled releases. I hate to be a downer, but no rich person is going to save us. It will be up to the people to have enough and cast aside this broken system.
I am sure I’ve posted here about Desantis being controlled opposition. His miltary service, congress, tried senator until Rubio was staying(should have challenged him), governor of big swing state, then president. Only two trips abroad, both to israel where he signed anti-American bill making it illegal to criticize jews. The man is fully owned. Neither man is incompetent or innocent.
At 3 1/2 months shy of 70, I now understand that everything I’ve been taught, everything I believed to be true, all the assumptions based on purported “facts” I’ve taken for granted were all, in fact, false. Everything in the public arena of information is, was and probably always has been, carefully constructed lies for an end purpose known only to the privileged few elite who pull all the puppet strings and those of us who have woken from our slumber. So, ergo, I now look at any public statement on the information highway as false at its core. Very few people fall outside those parameters any more, except those who are tossed from that highway as being “misinformation”. Those are the truth tellers. Everything else is false; possibly containing one grain of salt of truth.
Sadly, it’s become commonplace to hear our politicians and business leaders say “I had no idea” when they’re caught out. Both Musk and DeSantis are lying.
if both are truths, then they are fools.
if both are lies, then they are deceivers.
Theory: Elon Musk was a made man in the Deep State. He knew Twitter was CIA front. He also knows the Deep State is done, and exposing it will allow him to stay out of jail.
I have one more expansion.
Remember that time that Disqus censored The Conservative Treehouse and you had to create your own commenting forum? Did you already know that almost all the Treepers were secret agents working for the Pentagon’s signature reduction program? If you didn’t know then, how soon after you created this site did you learn? The New York Post and Newsweek broke the story of the Pentagon’s signature reduction program back during the end of President Trump’s administration.
Speaking of which, why did President Trump never mention that Twitter was a CIA creation? Why has he not addressed the signature reduction program that has created millions of bots on social media? The president receives a security breifing regularly.
Of course all the Ray Epps clones will accuse me of attacking Trump here. I’m not. I am attacking censorship and manipulation of social media by the continued use of online CRISIS ACTORS.
Let’s turn off the ADL moderation and invite real Americans to say their piece here and let the chips fall where they may…
Here is the story in NY Post: https://nypost.com/2021/05/18/pentagon-reportedly-running-secret-global-army-of-60000/
I do not recall the Treehouse ever using Disqus for comments.
How do you know that President Trump even knew about such a program – just reading the one article above, it seems that there is no oversight and it is all hush hush. Also consider that the whole machine was “against” President Trump.
ADL moderation? I can guess what you mean here, but do please explain…
It has been fairly easy to see who is here to stir up trouble 😉 Any “clandestine” types are usually outed quickly and dispatched.
Whether you recall or not has nothing to do with the facts…
When it’s not so it’s not a fact.
Oh yeah…you didn’t understand ADL moderation. That would be the moderation promoted by the ADL and used by all social media platforms….kinda self explanatory…
ADL Social Pattern Library | Moderation – ADL Social Pattern Library
You assume that Trump’s security briefings were telling him the truth. And, as most of Trump’s ‘advisers’ have admitted, after 2020, they were purposefully misleading him.
Yes. They might have lied to him like they did about other things.
But there is no reason for anyone to lie about it now. We know the feds are behind social media platforms. We know those platforms are filled with government agents engaging in psyops on the American people. The Twitter files have shown that almost every govt agency was involved in both censorship and spying. It appears impossible to keep that kind of information away from the president for four years…
The former is an odd duck, and the latter, a smarmy lawyer-politician.
I doubt that Elon Musk had no inkling of what he’d find with Twitter. He has bigger plans, like building a one-stop app for everything. Plus, his backing of trans-humanism is… more than concerning.
As for Ron DeSantis, he has his own record prior to being governor. I am less than impressed at this point with any non-binding promises he has or continues to make. Authenticity, is not his suit.
I know DeSantis is lying. He’s also a backstabber.
Musk is probably also lying.
However, in Musk’s case I add the following caveats –
A) he’s not stabbing his customers in the back by revealing the government influence; quite the opposite.
B) Autism affects how you process information; he’s not nearly as good with human interactions (such as might be involved in the transfer of ownership of Twitter) as he is with raw numbers (with which he’s only as good as the information he’s using).
C) Musk might have known the government was involved, but not the degree to which it was involved… sorta like how President Trump thought he could gain control over and clean up our institutions, but underestimated the sheer depth of The Swamp when he rode into DC the first time.
Basically… I think it likely Elon is lying, but I think it is possible that his lying is more about protecting his own ego (after getting played by the Deep State into paying billions for something he can only own on paper; all the liabilities – none of the actual ability to uproot The Swamp infestation) than about being in on some sort of longer con.
Exactly. Wonder if Musk has buyer’s remorse yet?
DeSantis is just a sinking/stinking duck.
It wouldn’t surprise me that Musk may have suspected government interference but it’s feasible that he could have been kept from learning the depth of their control.
On the other hand, he may have known a lot more than he’s letting on. It could be the real reason he bought Twitter to be able to expose them. He’s no stranger to government intervention.
The DeSantis head fake is just plain politics. He needed a big win in Florida to help boost his presence for a presidential run. He’s lying, because that’s what politicians do. He couldn’t let the cat out of the bag before the governor’s race and risk not winning by big margins.
As for Musk, he’s made almost all of his money from government contracts and tax rebates. He’s a billionaire because the US government wants him to be. He may not have known all of the intricate dealings with Twitter, but he knew the government was behind it and how they were using it. I can’t imagine they would have allowed him to purchase Twitter, if it really was going to change how the DHS and DNI manipulate and spy on their users. Do we really know for sure that Musk is not just another CIA operative, leaking just enough information, to distract people?
Bingo!
As for Musk, he’s made almost all of his money from government contracts and tax rebates. He’s a billionaire because the US government wants him to be.
Exactly. The investment arm of the CIA makes sure businesses it sees as essential are in the hands of someone they can control, and there’s always government subsidy funding in these Horatio Alger stories. I’m very suspicious of Musk, although I haven’t found anything obvious with DeSantis. I want to say he’s just another Mitt Romney, but Romney had interesting history in investments and computerized voting.
Musk’s pre-purchase view of Twitter was much like a buyer of a house that the cops have been using as a safehouse.
The cops forced the sellers to sign an NDA when they first began using the house.
The buyer has no idea about the cops’ use of the house. The seller is restricted by the NDA.
When the buyer moves in, he finds cops have a key to the backdoor, and use it whenever they want.
Only then does the buyer realize what he’s bought.
Exactly what Musk found. The previous owner was bound by USG NDAs.
DeSantis is a lying sack of sh*t.
He’s totally on-board with his handlers’ maneuvers.
He’s not in charge, and none of the maneuvers are his idea.
He’s just the latest flavor of fake “conservative” for the neoconmen to set up as a front for their scam against Normal Americans.
I agree with your analogy. I don’t think Musk honestly knew the extent of the government involvement. There wouldn’t have been any way for him to know the entire scope beforehand, either. It’s not like they took him on a tour and showed him all of the backend scripts that government uses to manipulate and control the data that’s posted to (and removed from) Twitter.
Personally, I don’t believe Musk actually knew the full extent of it. He may have had his suspicions about it, but there’s no way he knew the depth of the government control going on within Twitter. A lot of it has been exposed via the TwitterFiles, and it’s stuff that a lot of people had no idea was going on.
DeSnake, on the other hand, is a treacherous liar. He’d really like everyone to believe he didn’t know anything that was going on. Like it’s that easy to just snow people. He’s someone’s useful idiot.
Having my background and knowing the efforts that were made to conceal things. Seeing now the level of coordination and interaction between Twitter and the US Government. Until I see data that suggests otherwise.. I doubt Musk had a clue.
Even if he had an idea about what was going on. To get into the code yourself requires that you know the code and can review it and parse what it’s doing all by yourself. Otherwise you are at the mercy of your developers and what they tell you.
It was easy enough to dig into the private communications and schedules between the people that operated in the background as the new owner. This is most of what people know now today..
However that does not explain what else may be running on those servers. Ya, you can see the services and you can review the scripts and see the code and what it’s doing but there are obviously a crap ton of other ways to interact with the rest of the data in those DB’s from anywhere else in their infrastructure. These DB’s are going to have replication nodes and those nodes are likely replicating across networks around the globe. It would take a lot of time to track down any efforts made to replicate that data to a Gov blacksite. Odds are they likely closed it down when he took over to keep him from stumbling onto it. But that doesn’t mean rogue actors are not still inside pulling mysql dumps and sending it where needed. Each would take time to find out that it’s even happening and then to trace it back to who..
Ron is just another Bush.. he’s all Kayfabe..
I’m a programmer also, with 30 years of experience developing custom backend software for clients. There are scripts I’ve written myself, that if someone were to buy my business server, wouldn’t know what the hell they were looking at or how it operated or who had access to the backend, unless THEY knew and understood code. I don’t think Musk has any programming skills, personally. I think he’s more the “ideas man” and he then instructs his team of coders to develop whatever it is that he’s dreamed up. He’s a brilliant man, though.
C’mon man!! Elon is one of the smartest men on the planet. He started and owns Tesla and SpaceX – which are both federally subsidized. Coffee shop Jack is/was one of his friends , as are most of the big tech owners/players. Elon is now working on making Twitter have a currency option (he invented PayPal) and he is delving into AI and transhumanism.
And people actually believe he was clueless about the feds running Twitter before he purchased it?!
I’m no billionaire, but if I was, I think I would do much more due diligence here. Knowing Elon is a member of the WEF and a genius to boot makes me skeptical as heck. Ron D. can best be observed by who his company is. Seeing him at fundraisers with Mike Pence and Paul Ryan told me more than I wanted to know.
With Julian Assange telling us that most of D.C. would be implicated if he drops his docs is very telling. As a Christian, I don’t believe anything anymore. Jesus said I am the Way, The TRUTH and the Life. I search for and pray to find the TRUTH daily. In His name. Trust but Verify. All I really want is the Truth and ARRESTS!!!! Blessings
Kevin…I think Musk knew. Billionaires don’t get that rich by making questionable business purchases on a whim. They do research…they know what they are getting into.
For both of them, I think it buggers belief that they didn’t know…….wait……I mean beggars belief………wait…….I think I was right the first time.
Two possibilities: They really were that clueless, or they knew the game all the time but figured it was still good for a road trip. Whether or not it all falls apart (in terms of how much they were/are lying) won’t impact either their original motivation or their intentions. In today’s general culture, exposure of lying liars doesn’t have hoped-for consequences.
There is this difference: I think Musk is pretty much in charge of his own life but there’s no way DeSantis is in charge of his own life.
It’s Gaslighting Chaos at the doctoral level no matter how much of it can be clearly characterized in a particular way.
Those whose hold on power depends on deception will always be able to find an audience willing to be deceived.
After reading comments, it seems the consensus is already in.
Musk and DeSantis are lying.
If we’ve learned one thing, it’s that we can no longer take anything at face value.
If us regular folks know what’s going on, just by our own observations and experiences, then the supposedly really smart guy has to know, and he’s playing a role, and the politician is also playing a role.
Yes, it’s all so exhausting. This is why I rely on my farm as a destraction. It’s a gorgeous day. The skies are blue, everything is green, the sun is shining brightly. I wish we could do without the SuperSmartGuys and the Politicians, not to mention the Globalist/Communist/WEF/Federal overseers. Life would be more blissful.