One of the things about big lies is the sheer weight they create, and the effort needed to maintain them. Everyone of reasonably intelligent disposition knew the Russians did not blow up their own Nord Stream gas pipeline last year; they had no motive to do so. All indications were always that the U.S. government conducted the operation and then obfuscated blame toward Russia.
Investigative journalist Mr. Seymour Hersh now writes a comprehensive outline showcasing just how the Biden operation to destroy Nord Stream was conducted. [SEE HERE]
[Seymour Hersh] […] “In December of 2021, two months before the first Russian tanks rolled into Ukraine, Jake Sullivan convened a meeting of a newly formed task force—men and women from the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the CIA, and the State and Treasury Departments—and asked for recommendations about how to respond to Putin’s impending invasion.
It would be the first of a series of top-secret meetings, in a secure room on a top floor of the Old Executive Office Building, adjacent to the White House, that was also the home of the President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board (PFIAB). There was the usual back and forth chatter that eventually led to a crucial preliminary question: Would the recommendation forwarded by the group to the President be reversible—such as another layer of sanctions and currency restrictions—or irreversible—that is, kinetic actions, which could not be undone?
What became clear to participants, according to the source with direct knowledge of the process, is that Sullivan intended for the group to come up with a plan for the destruction of the two Nord Stream pipelines—and that he was delivering on the desires of the President.” (read more)
As the article notes, initially in the planning stage, Joe Biden and his administration were all in for the operation, assuming of course the resulting action -essentially a declaration of war- came with plausible deniability.
What is unclear, despite all the details revealed, is whether in the final decision-making Joe Biden actually had anything to do with it; or whether the dark handlers running his covert administration from the Intel and State Dept., felt they had enough prior approval to just carry out the order without him.
As a reminder, in late September 2022, Joe Biden denied the U.S. involvement…. He lied.
(Via CBS) – […] President Biden called the damage to the Nord Stream natural gas pipelines “a deliberate act of sabotage,” rebuking Russia’s claim that the West was responsible for the explosions. The president said Friday that divers would eventually be sent to the pipelines, which were designed to bring gas from Russia to Europe, to determine what happened.
“It was a deliberate act of sabotage and the Russians are pumping out disinformation and lies,” Biden said.
“At the appropriate moment, when things calm down, we’re going to be sending divers down to find out exactly what happened. We don’t know that yet exactly,” he added. (read more)
For the U.S. to deliberately attack the Nord Stream gas pipeline, that is a direct act of war against a sovereign country, Russia.
The coverup of this story is going to make the coverup of all prior Obama/Biden stories pale in comparison.
Gee, color me surprised,…
ANOTHER LIE!
These dimwits couldn’t tell the truth if their lives depended on it.
What an absolute disgrace this country has become.
I have far more respect for putin.
They certainly won’t tell the t ruth if OUR lives depended on it.
me too.
I’ve listened to some of Putin’s speeches. He knows exactly what is going on. Every single thing he said was true!
So we just blow up gas pipelines that feed a NATO country
because it will hurt Russia?
Screw the German people?
Screw the German economy?
That is as on brand as it gets for our govt., military and CIA.
I believe every word of Hersh’s claims.
Our govt is evil.
They won’t let Miss Binder anywhere near answering about this story, it’ll be Kirby all the way
In fact, Kirby may have to pull double duty: answering press on behalf of the military at the Pentagon and answering press on behalf of Dribblin’ Joe at the White House
… because someone might ask
“What did the President know and when did he know it?”
gnomesayin’ ?
If only Miss Hairdo could read what’s in the binder. She is a complete moron.
She is and they get away with it because almost no one watches the news anymore.
Even complete idiots won’t watch propaganda.
I suspect that the only people watching the news regularly, except possibly for the weather, are woke statists and pundits.
Remember NATO were willing to go to / declare war on Russia if the stray rocket that landed in Poland a few weeks back — and killed 2 people — was fired by Russia.
It turned out to be an Ukrainian fired missile.
Now compare this to the USA actually blowing up a Germany owned pipeline.
A directed mindful attack with specific purpose. Not like a “stray explosion”.
Deliberate blowup of a piece of civilian infrastructure in peacetime, that Germany depends on to keep its industry going.
I would say that qualifies as an attack on Germany sovereignty and NATO under Article 4 should defend Germany against USA aggression and declare war on the USA.
Argue me wrong.
That being said the US was the only country having benefits from blowing up the pipeline so it already was a public secret. US is courting German industry to move to the US with some success. (German energy prices are now too high)
Just that NATO is too limp to do anything about it.
From what I read on Hersh’s substack, Norway participated, providing staging and strategy assistance for the operation. Also, Norway’s petro industry had much to gain from the elimination of the pipelines as well.
One other item worth noting, Borge Brenda , the current President of the WEF hails from, you guessed it…..Norway!
I misspelled his name…Borge Brende
Might as well be Borgia…..
bologna
“Norway’s petro industry had much to gain from the elimination of the pipelines as well”
yes, because Norway has a new pipeline that just came on line, late last year I think it was
Nordstream was competition for Norway, which supplies motive
Correct…and a considerable amount of Norway’s revenues come from the exports of petroleum.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/official_texts_17120.htm
NATO seems like Uniparty type legislation, poorly worded and ambiguous.
Article 5 appears to have been violated, an explosion, not due to a natural cause, sure seems to be using armaments.
As Darren Beattle observed on the Warroom tonlte lt’s only an act of war lf the vlctlms say lt’s an act of war
Not just Germany; they re-sell any excess to other European nations.
And….you have the answer to why our own gas prices this winter are so high. It’s been sold to the highest European bidder.
We and the Norwegians.
Great points. We may be close to checkmate here.
Progressives are evil and they have completely corrupted all of our institutions.
NEOCONS/NEOLIBS/STRAUSSIANS/KHAZARS…….DRAG USA TO WAR WITH RUSSIA….
The IC is simply getting out, and ahead of this story, by instructing Hersh to publish it.
This is not investigative journalism, it’s just the DoS seeding the field.
And STUPID. Dont forget Stupid.
Biden has hated this country .and it’s citizens since at least 88 ,when he was laughed out of the presidential race. He’s always been a lying, cheating, sack of crap. However, I don’t think he became truly evil until he worked under the Zero. Being a total shill for traitors inc. was not a hard choice after that. We are witnessing the actions of an evil, power mad, brain addled, life long corruptocrat with an axe to grind.
When you think about it, this wasn’t just an attack on Russia and Germany, this was an attack on anyone who uses natural gas or the energy derived from it.
As a further point. i don’t want to hear another damn word about globull warming. This blatant act of environmental destruction proves once and for all that they could give a crap about climate. This is all about power and money. We will not be seeing Greta on this one> It will be a quick denial followed by media blackout.
lotta greenhouse gases* in that bubbling sea cauldron above the blown pipelines
*- technically, they’re hydrocarbon fuel gases, but envirowhacks would think of them primarily as greenhouse gases
Your analysis on Brandon is spot on. How did Delaware keep reelecting this guy for all of those years?
I knew that the guy was a POS since 1988, but unfortunately I can’t vote in Delaware.
delaware does dominion
Same here. Despicable, evil regime(s)… Bush, Clinton, Obama, Biden. All roads lead us to where we are now… the lowest step on the ladder. What a mess they’ve made of our lives!
Is it any wonder that the rest of the world thinks the U.S. is a terrible place and if they come here, they can get away with whatever they want to?
It is an act of war.
it really is. imo Putin has shown admirable restraint.
HE LIKE SERVE IT IN COLD….
Funny the story coming out now. Almost like they want an open war with Russia. Europe dragging their feet over WWIII.
At gym here, I just watched 50 First Dates in the movie room. Drew Barrymore and Adam Sandler. The occupant may very well be a real life Drew Barrymore.
Nope…he is a lobotomy experiment gone bad!
Look up when he had to bow out of the ’88 primary because of his “Tommy Flanagan syndrome”…
They are all liars in every place of leadership all throughout the entire government and it’s agencies.
Russia and all the world knows our government has none absolutely no credibility
And that’s reason Putin, Lavrov and Medvedev call the United States the “Empire of Lies”
Yes indeed a hissing and a byword is this place.
I loathe our government and I’m ashamed of it practically our entire history is one big fraud and our financial system has become a gigantic Ponzi scam.
If I had the means I would leave
May it crumble to ruin
And to top it off right now in Germany 82% of its citizens believe Russia and China are the offending aggressors
“And the rest were blinded”
Proof that the US WANTS A PROXY WAR AGAINST RUSSIA.
Warmongers
yeah, I wonder which remote US outposts might be tempting for Russia to pop as tit (for the pipeline tat)
so to speak
Alaska for $200
Russia could probably make a deal with China for some recent (VERY recent) aerial reconnaissance imagery and signals intelligence captures
Undersea cables for a few $trillion.
It’s not just a proxy war, imo. It’s a proxy war in order to initiate a regime change in Russia. Putin stands in the way of the WEF, NWO etc Any time you see Victoria Nuland in the mix it’s a safe bet that a regime change is the goal.
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I think you’re correct. There are, sure, the intervening issues (oil money for U.S. and Norway, hide evidence of corruption and biolabs etc. in Ukraine, and so forth.) But the plot to destroy and divide up Russia, as well as bring the west to its economic knees has been gamed out for years. And it’s now a vast, multi-pronged approach. Pandemics, race-baiting and crime, the immigration mess in U.S. and don’t forget Europe, U.N. feature creep shenanigans, election rigging… even the language destruction boosting “gender” nonsense.
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US military is expanding again in asia. Next warmongering China.
Most people with 2 brain cells knew on day one that our corrupt intelligence and other agencies did this.
Crap you can actually follow the flight of the aircraft and when they dropped the munition.
They planted the exploslves n June durlng NATO exerclses and the buoy they dropped ln Sept from the plane trlpped the detonator
Things would look a lot different if the US hadn’t engaged in this kind of
evil, populace killing, economy destroying activity in the past.
We are the career criminal who claims innocence.
I was in denial in the past. No longer. It hurts but now I see the truth. It goes back decades.
I used to think we were the good guys, that we were defending ourselves and democracy.
It has been shocking to see how many countries we have destroyed for our own benefit, over and over and over. And now I see it in every country around the world where we are interfering to get our way and plunder others’ resources.
Whaadaya mean “we” bobo? It’s not more than a few thousand genuinely evil people doing this stuff and you know it. This long train of abuse and usurpation is getting near the station. And it will be We The People waiting there at the station to greet the abusers and usurpers when they disembark. Are you on that train, bobo? Your blanket accusations ring hollow.
Ok. Sundance, rightfully so, always says that Biden is not in control, AND, the Deep State is running the Show.
Note that the Navy divers had to report to the CIA before this mission.
Biden ‘authorizing’ is nothing but a rubber stamp!
The DEEP STATE/CIA ran this operation on behalf of globalists, just like they always have. Eisenhower, Cuba, Kennedy, Vietnam, Nixon, Bush (from Carter until Obama), all the Middle East shit, not mentioning Asia, Latin America, etc.
WAKE UP, PEOPLE!!!
Didn’t even have to give the gang of 8 a report.
I don’t know if I’m happy to live in the US, because we have dominance,
or disgusted, because we operate like there is no Constitution or
responsibility to the rest of the world. We just do what we want.
“What you mean WE, Kimosabe?”
nobody gave me a voice in this
our passivity is our consent.
At least you included yourself.
They just do as they please. All we do it vote for them. Like we believe their every word\not any more..
‘Didn’t even have to give the gang of 8 a report.’ – bobo
In one paragraph Hersh alludes to this culture of legal chicanery, noting how an alleged change in the operation’s status obviates the need for reporting it to the Gang of Eight, itself extra-constitutional.
End Times for the satanic fedgov, comrades. Let it bleed.
thx for the fill-in, Jim
I haven’t gotten past the first-story-I’ve-seen and the making-wisecracks-about-it phase yet
yeah… its a weird state to be in, but i am there with you… in another world this level of outrageous behavior would be grounds for massive riots and overthrow of governments.
instead all we can do is chuckle and make clever jibes about Joe’s diapers or something.
strange times.
I don’t work blue, Mord
I’ll make clever jibes, but I stay from diaper comedy
nimrod, entire article on https://www.seymourhersh.substack.com
“WAKE UP, PEOPLE!!!”
i agree… but with all due respect, what does our knowledge oof such things, in the absence of acting on it in any way whatsoever, matter? how is it materially different than not waking up, sheeple?
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Just a reminder of President Trump’s order, overturned immediately by OBiden upon taking office, that henceforth, special operations would report only to the Secretary of Defense. Stop the State Department/CIA from using our military for their illicit activities without oversight.
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Then the nato ukraine files leaked ro china to leak to russia.
The pickle factory started this war.
I hope Putin smashes through Kiev and arrest these WEF lemmings, and march them through Red Square
personally i hope the Uke army turns on Kiev before they do, and makes it clear they are marching on NATO to rid them of the NAZCIA manipulations, not their idiot “leader”
Don’t joke about it, after the ranking Azov troops don’t have any more UAF to shoot in the back for not advancing into the meatgrinder, it may be what happens for different reasons.
A direct act of war against Russia, but what about the Germans struggling to heat their homes? Would show a staggering disregard for humanity.
Yeah, I bet there’s be some words at the next NATO conference, huh?
it says in the article that german government knew well in advance. if the unemployed and cold people of Germany want to take their rage out on the perps, they can start within their borders.
oh – THAT’s a juicy tidbit
“there’ll be”
It IS a complete disregard for humanity. That natural gas not only heats homes, but provides fertilizer for food.
Joe Biden proves anyone can become president.
Trump proved Presidents have little to no power to clean a swamp.
You know they’re lying.
They’re incapable of truth telling. The truth would send them all to death row and on to hell.
WWIII is the only card they have left to drop that could either end their charade and have them all living underground like mole rats for a few generations or find them scurrying through the underbrush trying to hide from justice delivered by the waiting mobs.
One should remember that the most convincing lies are those mixed with some seed of truth however miniscule in it.
These people are far beyond deranged, hopelessly sociopathic even. Evidence enough for demonic possession. Such evil invites judgement upon itself.
Does German Intelligence realize that it was the DS USA who did them harm????? What about the other EU countries – do they know?
Oh, yes, they know. The Germans have investigated and are not releasing their findings. The Russians were prevented from going with teams from other countries to gather samples and debris.
AdRem, Clean-up on aisle 1! Thank you in advance👍🏻
Yabbut with the export price and amount of CNG and LNG, this puts our GDP in the black.
“Yabbut”?
is that a contraction for “yeah, but …”
or a Yiddish word I’m not familiar with?
Abbot and Costello?
Yabbut Dabbut Do.
I didn’t know either, so I looked it up. You were exactly right.
Kind of like the Texas “fidna,” short for “fixin’ to,” which means “preparing to.” 🙂
“We’re fidna go to the rodeo, is your momanem coming too?”
Apologies for being so naive…
The story breaks on Substack. Only alt-media is picking it up. If legacy/social media and Big Tech censor as usual, what is the point?
Jesse Watters covered it just a few minutes ago.
Tucker will be all over this.
Twitter won’t censor this.
Basically just Facebook and YouTube will censor it. Until they can’t.
just saw it on Fox TV, Jesse Watters show, promised to have an in-depth report later in the week
It proves that it’s true?
Seymour Hersh isn’t just an “alt-media” reporter. He’s been around a while. Wrote about the Mỹ Lai massacre – that put him on the map. He has a good size following.
disproved US cover stories in Iraq war, chlorine gas attacks in Syria mighta been one
He also clalmed he had been told by a source that Seth Rlch gave the DNC flles to WlklLeaks.
So, we ARE the baddy’s here. ….
Yes we are. Once again.
Now stand for the national anthem, take off your hat,
and put your hand over your heart.
Otherwise, you’re Americaning wrong,
Our current government has brought shame on us all.
“we have met the enemy and they are us”
— Pogo
So will the citizens of the nations in Europe that were relying on the fuel from the Nord Stream pipeline to heat their homes, supply energy for their businesses etc. get their governments to sue the United States in that world court they created and force the US taxpayers to pay for rebuilding that pipeline?
‘get their governments to sue the United States in that world court they created?’ -Bessie 2003
They could. But first, they would have to expel their yankee occupiers.
Germans would have to march every American at Ramstein AFB to their evacuation aircraft at gunpoint, pricking the sneering ones with bayonets to draw blood, and occasionally clubbing one to the curb with a rifle butt to the mouth.
Primitive Third World Vietnam booted out its yankee invaders, half a century ago.
Why can’t rich Germany, after three generations?
how do you think the economies of the surrounding towns run?
plus greased palms further up the national gummint
We have no funds left to rebuild the pipeline.
All the funds went to Ukraine. $110 billion of them.
thats never stopped us before.
You don’t mean to say that the current group in power would commit a heinous act, then turn around and accuse their victim of doing exactly what they themselves had done, do you?
Actually, that’s a way of life for them.
If it wasn’t for Projection, the Left would have no ions at all.
Good one!
Now… I’m just a simple man, but if we did blow up NS #1 & #2… Did we not commit an act of war??? Did this administration just leapfrog over the Congressional requirement and nothing will be done?
If Im Putin, I’d be asking for the intellectual author of the attack to be turned in to FSB for a very public trial and a loooooong stay at a gulag.
Carlos: Remember the weeks-long parade of Congresscritters, traveling to Ukraine for handshakes, smooches and photo ops with Zelensky? There’s your “congressional requirement.”
Article One, Section Eight of the Constitution says “Congress shall have power to … declare War.”
I don’t recall a vote.
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Or… certain bad actors, same who previously staged a coup against the U.S., and glommed control of our government, now have committed additional acts of insurrection and treason.
They scream certain words on the slightest provocation to inure the public, accuse Trump, MAGA conservatives, etc. of doing certain things in order to get people inured, get the public to yawn and ignore, like a shield, when evidence of their own planned actual bad acts, thousands of times worse, subsequently might come to light.
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The Maine . . . the Lusitania . . .
For the U.S. to deliberately attack the Nord Stream gas pipeline, that is a direct act of war against a sovereign country, Russia.
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“Give me a nuke, Vasili. One nuke only, please.”
solve it all today:
38.9072° N, 77.0369° W
LMAO
Does that include Langley?
Utah Senator Mike Lee thread on the Seymour Hersch article about our US military taking out the Nord Stream pipe line.
my opinion only but if this is true, and this is the same military that promised China to notify them if President Trump ever gave orders to do something chyna didn’t like, and if what is in the thread is true that Congress was not notified of this pipeline being taken out, which notification is required by law, we got a bigger problem than fascist government silencing people on social media – we may have had a military coup and are just now finding out about it. is that even possible?
The Senator’s right, this is highly serious.
yes, but war by who against whom?
if true, the citizens of the former republic have every right to demand the deep state surrender to congress or face an actual war from its own for acting outside of the people’s permission.
i don’t give a damn about russia.
“It’s F-15s against your AR-15s, proles!”
Afghanistan shows that a bunch of unyielding riflemen with guerilla tactics can outlast the ones with the air superiority.
Indeed, a balloon proved that just a few days ago!
“They have us surrounded. The poor bastards….”
In April 2021 when there were articles about the “Angry Birds” app inventor, Peter Vesterbecka, touting the Tallinn-to-Helsinki train to be built with the help of the PRC, it seemed worrisome to me how that was going to coincide with the Nordstream pipeline work/transit and why wouldn’t Vladimir Putin be concerned about the PRC up in his neck of the woods?
Vesterbecka seemed either totally stupid and unaware of the ramifications or a deliberate tool, IMHO.
BTW, as I understand it, the NSA was able to scoop up tons of data from users of the “Angry Birds” app – it was a “leaky” app – but say, hey! That’s okay, Vesterbecka sallies forth to be part of promoting the PRC’s BRI.
When hearing about the explosion of the Nordstream pipeline, it seemed to me that indeed it could have been brought about by some of our own people, on behalf of the PRC, doing what the PRC wants OUR people to do to Russia.
For the U.S. to deliberately attack the Nord Stream gas pipeline, that is a direct act of war against a sovereign country, Russia.
I’d say it was an act of war against the countries purchasing that gas was well.
If Putin plays this really smart, stays cool and doesn’t overreact, it seems to me he could begin to split the EU and Nato against the United States. We could be in serious trouble here. The dollar isn’t stable to begin with. The smart play by Russia is political here, keep working with BRICS and Saudi Arabia to end the dollar as reserve currency.
agreed – if i am Putin i would immediately offer to rebuild NS on my own dime as quick as possible to “help” western europe get off the teet of the yankees.
And then keep it heavily guarded by nuclear submarines.
Mord Bord, this is an effort to distract from Bioweapon labs. With evidence already ignored by the U.N. and most of the world press. Western Europe, should already be very happy with Russia, without asking for more given all the provocations by the Biden Administration. Not with the support of the American people!
I would encourage you, to use the word please – when it comes to Russia.
Vladimir Putin would be foolish to rebuild the Nordstream pipeline. If Germany ever decides it wants the gas, they can rebuild it. But they won’t, because green energy…..it will be a long time before people realize what that agenda will win for them..
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Putin can sell his oil elsewhere. And he is.
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3rd from last paragraph in the Hersh article:
“Asked why he thought the Russians failed to respond, he said cynically,
“Maybe they want the capability to do the same things the U.S. did.”
Biden has no authorization to go to war with Russia and must seek authorization from Congress.
You know, everyone in the world will soon know this: “For the U.S. to deliberately attack the Nord Stream gas pipeline, that is a direct act of war against a sovereign country, Russia”.
Biden’s administration has, opened the door to retaliation from Russia. Anytime, anywhere they want.
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Trump Cannot Declare War—
Especially on Iran—Without Congress
While Trump keeps sending mixed signals about Iran, the House has sent a clear one: It is Congress, not the president, that has the power to declare war.
By John Nichols
July 23, 2019
Congress has spoken,” Congressman Ro Khanna announced last week. “Trump cannot declare war with any nation, especially Iran, without coming to us first.”
President Trump has sent wildly uneven signals regarding Iran since he backed out of the nuclear deal with that country. At times, he has seemed to signal a determination to enter into conflict with Iran; at others times he has backed off. What is clear is that tensions remain. They have flared repeatedly in recent days, amid the wrangling over the shooting down of a mysterious drone over the Strait of Hormuz, reports of the seizure of a British-flagged oil tanker, and a claim by Iran that it is arresting CIA spies.
This is a confusing and conflicted moment, when irreversible errors could be made. If there is to be any assurance that the United States will not lurch into another war in a region where so many lives were lost after the 2003 invasion of Iraq—and where so much of the country’s international credibility has been sacrificed—Congress must be prepared to check and balance this administration. The president must know that he cannot start a war without the constitutionally mandated approval of the House and Senate.
The good news is that the House has put the president on notice. The chamber voted 251-170 on July 12 for a bipartisan measure, authored by Khanna (D-CA) and Congressman Matt Gaetz, (R-FL), that is intended to force the president to respect the constitutionally mandated authority of Congress to make decisions regarding war and peace. Specifically, the Khanna-Gaetz amendment to the annual National Defense Authorization Act prevents federal funds from being used for any military force in or against Iran without congressional authorization.
Crafted with an eye toward ending presidential power grabs, the amendment makes it clear that past authorizations for the use of military force—enacted after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, and before the 2003 invasion of Iraq—cannot be invoked by the president in order to justify the use of military force against Iran.
“This is a historic moment for Congress,” wrote Khanna. “Although President Trump campaigned on ending costly wars oversees [sic], his chosen advisors, one [of which was] the architect of the Iraq war, and actions to increase tensions with Iran prove he is far from living up to that promise. With more than 25 Republicans voting in favor of passage, this amendment is proof that opposition to war with Iran transcends partisan politics. Some of the President’s closest allies voted for this amendment. Americans came together around the idea that we must avoid a war with Iran.”
Khanna’s point is a critical one. The coalition that has supported a reassertion of congressional authority over questions of war and peace with Iran is broad. It is bipartisan. It extends from right to left. It includes conservative groups such Americans for Prosperity and Freedom Works, along with progressive groups such as Demand Progress. It includes groups that promote diplomatic resolutions to conflicts in the region, including J Street and NIAC Action. It includes veterans groups such as VoteVets and Concerned Veterans for America, as well as longtime advocates for peace and disarmament, including the Council for a Livable World, the Friends Committee on National Legislation, Peace Action, the Ploughshares Fund, and Win Without War.
There is little constituency for war with Iran outside the desperate circle of neoconservative hawks that has attached itself to the current administration. Yet there is a fear that war might occur. “The administration’s approach of maximum pressure against Iran has been a dismal failure and has escalated the risk of war, whether by design, accident, or miscalculation,” explains Diana Ohlbaum, the senior strategist and legislative director for foreign policy with the Friends Committee.
But there does not need to be a war. Congresswoman Barbara Lee (D-CA) is right when she says, “Trump’s Iran policy is responsible for this self-inflicted crisis.” And she is equally right when she says, “The Trump Administration has no authorization to go to war with Iran and must seek authorization from Congress.”
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/khanna-trump-war-iran-congress/
Its my understanding they trained over a year ago just down from my condo here on Panama City Beach at the Navy Dive School. By utilizing Navy divers and not Special Force Operators there was no reporting to the Senate Intel 8-Guys. That’s way too much planning and futuristic thought for Braden, someone else is calling the shots.
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I think you might have it backwards. They used SEALs. Special operations can be conducted under the direction of the State/CIA. Not regular military. Trump tried to stop this. OBiden reversed his E.O. Diver training in Panama would not have been the crux of any operation, which, if I had to guess, would have been choreographed out of Fort Bragg and/or San Diego, where special operations, military and Navy, respectively, are headquartered.
By the way… why haven’t we heard from that media-loving spec ops peace-loving COL Tulsi Gabbard…
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The Nord stream attacks were ultimately about American Big Business using its Mafia like power to destroy competitors (Russia) from getting any closer in doing profitable business with it’s clients (Germany)
Russian loss is now the US LNG exporters gain.. I am sure all of this is mere coincidence.
Jeffrey Epstein didn’t hang himself. Neither did the Nord stream pipeline get blown up by its creator/biggest benefactors
So how long before Russia retaliates?
I think that they now know they cannot trust anyone in the entire western world…..the Minsk agreements, Nordstream, the Kerch bridge, the assassination of Darya Duggin. The US is using or condoning terrorist tactics, all at the behest of the multinational corporations and banks.
I don’t know what they will do, but it will not be anything the west wants.
..WHEN IS A DISHES …cold …and VVP will …cut a cables..???
Noted another article to the effect that the empire of lies has been lying ever since powell went before the un and lied for the criminal act of the iraq war. As noted, the lies are continual without repercussions or accountability and they lie because they can.
This body of lies by the cretins in white house and state and cia is so absurd that it borders on insane delusions; plausible deniability?? Jeez, maybe to 6 year old school child but I would think even he or she would laugh out loud.
Why would russia destroy their own gas line? Who benefits? Blinky and nudleman are not even trying to hide their glee.
No surprise. They’re deliberately destroying America and lying about it.
Of course, their base is fine with it – and when they start to suffer the consequences, they’ll blame everyone else.
You must have libs in your family. You know them so well.😂
Now would be a good time for McCarthy to file Articles of Impeachment over this incident.
even better – i would declare that if true, Putin should consult CONGRESS before they act because this act of war was not authorized by the american people and he is authorized to root out the criminals and arrest them – maybe even DEPORT them to russia to stand trial.
would love to see a constitutional crisis over this one. let the imperial palaces BURN
waste of time and taxpayer money since the dem controlled senate would need to convict and then remove their installed pres…
Jake “The Snake” also had his evil self working on the Russiagate narrative against President Trump.
“Biden” doesn’t control the military. I say the administration was framed.
Let’s have a conversion about it
Joe Biden would lie even when telling the truth would help him.
Hey hey- ho ho!!! Creepy Joe has got to go!!!!!
on Tucker Carlson right now
Reminder:
January 2022
“‘There are no minor incursions’: Biden’s candid Putin predictions criticized in Kyiv”
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/biden-minor-incursion-ukraine-putin-russia-invasion-nato-rcna12886
President Joe Biden’s prediction that Russia will invade Ukraine and his suggestion that the West’s response could be more muted for a “minor” incursion drew swift criticism from Washington to Kyiv, with some accusing him of giving Russia the green light to attack.
Seems to be missing from Hersch’s entry.
Let’s review the timeline:
1.) Come up with plan to blow up the Nordstream Pipeline
2.) Allow Russia to invade Ukraine unimpeded; in fact, maybe give Ol’ Vladdy a bit of a green light
3.) Blow up said pipeline
FTA:
“Two of the pipelines, which were known collectively as Nord Stream 1, had been providing Germany and much of Western Europe with cheap Russian natural gas for more than a decade.”
Mm. Doesn’t fit The Agenda, does it. Minor coincidence, I suppose.
“Washington was afraid that countries like Germany would be reluctant to supply Ukraine with the money and weapons it needed to defeat Russia.”
So… let’s get this straight: it was decided a couple months in advance that Russia and Ukraine would absolutely, positively, most definitely be engaged in a war. Was Ukraine made aware of this decision… er… I mean prediction?
When Nuland is involved, hold onto your freakin’ hats, I can tell you that.
“Sullivan intended for the group to come up with a plan for the destruction of the two Nord Stream pipelines”
Mm. Also not reading any sentences containing the word “diplomacy” or “negotiations” with respect to avoiding The War That Would Absolutely, Positively, Most Definitely Occur. Interesting.
Or maybe I’m just too cynical, who knows…
I wonder if Tom Fitton has already queued up his FOIA requests and if the House is going to setup a Nord 1&2 subcommittee and subpoena a whole bunch of folks.
I wonder also just how many whistleblowers might also come forward as this story heats up?
Well, this will blow that Chy-Na white barroon off the front page
I reckon
Barroon?
The irony, China has used barroon for centuries, iirc.
So I also wonder if that balloon was gathering info for China or could it have possibly been gathering info for Russia because if this story is true, Russia has possibly a bigger axe to grind.
More “Russia, Russia”.
I pray that whatever the ‘good guys’ are waiting to happen happens soon
-already.
-Please, Lord.
I guess there are two presumptions from that –
First that all 4 pipelines were mined?
Second is that the mine on the 4th line didn’t go off , the Swedes found it and definitely know who planted it?
Aside from Russia doing what it’s doing in Ukraine, to do this without consulting congress and causing this level of fiscal and environmental disaster, is purely an act of terrorism. This is a crime. Every European going without heat this winter should sue Joe Biden.
Wondering; is there anything he hasn’t lied about since he first took his “oath” of office which he has never bothered to try to do?
Not withstanding the loss of life in our case, in Russia’s eyes this would be equivalent of Pearl Harbor. And I wouldn’t blame them.
Anything coming from the WH are lies, then work out from that point. This is an act of war, and releasing COVID then blame China, unproven is an act of war, we are at war, the first casualty in war is TRUTH. One side playing computer war the other sides are out to kill.
If true, I see it as an act of treason by our own Government against the American people by purposefully acting as aggressors against non hostile Countries and placing the US in a dangerous position. Biden must be impeached and held accountable for crimes against humanity.
Remember when trump had to rebuild the military? After 8 years of Obama weakening our military, trump beefed it up again with ammo and spare parts. The regime wanted Putin to strike Ukraine. Kamala Harris went to the eu and specifically recommended Ukraine join nato. If I remember correct, that was a big red line for Putin.
Could it be that the regime started the war to deplete the us of our new found armaments, negating what trump did? They want to weaken the us military. So China can invade Taiwan without a fight?