In his customarily subtle way, where ‘subtle’ is like a brick through a window, President Trump delivers advice to Joe Biden about how to deal with Chinese Chairman Xi Jinping’s spy balloon:
“SHOOT DOWN THE BALLOON!”
Personally, I like the added emphasis with the exclamation point. However, now that President Trump has recommended this approach, the Biden team have to take shooting down the balloon off the table – or else they will look like they are following Trump’s advice. lolol
Some days I just miss the way he says, Chy-na.
Shawn Farash has some fun with this below:
https://youtube.com/shorts/pV6nLVtJkUU?feature=share
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Cant it be lassooed and towed away over the sea then shot down?
Please, don’t shoot it down. Surely there are some Montana Cowboys up to roping…heading and heeling, get him on the ground.
Then they can see just what is in it! If that don’t work throw a big net over him and pull him to the ground
Drop a big net on it from above?
The big net has a tethering cord – attach the tethering cord to a drone and then direct the drone to a nice landing spot?
I Like the way you think!
required to be at least 50,000 feet in the air and 3 buses wide
“Some days I just miss the way he says, Chy-na.”
Everyday for me.
Same here!
Mom and I do that on a regular basis, trying to imitate him, Chy-na!
If the balloon hovers over kansas it could be the wizard of OZ.
Has anybody considered that possibility.
A sequal to the wizard of oz where the wiz of OZ visits kansas in a balloon.
Everybody click their heels And repeat, is it an emp bomb, is it an emp bomb, is it an emp bomb?
I have been to the Wizard of Oz. Many times. It’s not far from Dodge City.
With Swalwell out of the House Intelligence Committee now, look for more balloons in the immediate future.
They have Hunter and Joe.
The town drunk and village idiot are easily manipulated.
If one vaporises it at high temperatures, then any cargo it is carrying will be destroyed?
No need to. vaporize it. A little canon blast will take it right down.
Apparently it was shot down at 7:02pm local time in Montana. At least something was. See the gateway pundit.
Kari Lake has the right idea (scroll down that twitter thread)
Remember when china shot down loaded commercial passenger plane which strayed (from route 30?) slightly, killing all on board
Was that not the Soviets?
Flight 107?
it was Russia
Maybe it is this kid again
oh yes!
Forgot about that!
lol
Disclose.tv
@disclosetv
JUST IN – Pentagon: Another Chinese spy balloon over Latin America.
7:46 PM · Feb 3, 2023
Wow! That guy does a great Trump impersonation!
If these balloons are not part of a larger operation that we’ll know much more about by morning time – what message are they trying to send to the world + specific nations…?
What certainty is there that they were launched by China…?
We are not pressing War on China’s fronts. They aren’t sending a message for us to “Back Off!!!” unless things are going on hidden behind the scenes….
China would not be sending a message on Russia’s behalf. Not like this.
If China is sending a message – off the top of my head —- I’d guess it is because it has something else planned for the immediate or near future that it Huge + they are anticipating the Condemnation that leads to harmful Sanctions or Provocative Military Intervention.
— In other words, I put my $$$ right now on this being a —- Warning — of some sort that will make far more sense —— when they do the Huge Thing they might have planned….
Is there any significant chance it is Russia pretending to be China…?
That might make some sense out of the “why” part. The Nordstream Attacks have still not been avenged that we know of…. and we are loading Tanks for Ukraine.
I do not see Russia offering a causus belli on a silver plate.
They aren’t picking a war with us, we forced one on them, yet they are being quite judicious in how they address our role in it.
It seems profoundly unlikely they’ve a desire to expand the conflict like this.
China has acknowledged it is theirs. They claim it is a weather balloon.
No idea what is real and what is not.
“No idea what is real and what is not.”
That’s one of the HUGE reasons you don’t want to be too obvious when you fix an election…..
When the bulk of the masses – even those who believe you are on their team – things do not go well for your nation….
no
Maybe they are delivering bioweapons.
And who shot it down?
“Pentagon says another Chinese spy balloon is traveling over Latin America
Pentagon spokesperson Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder sai the government assesses ‘it is another Chinese surveillance balloon’”
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pentagon-another-chinese-spy-balloon-traveling-over-latin-america
I’d love an accurate/trustworthy understanding of how confident they are about what the balloons are carrying…
are we being “seeded” ?
If they do not have very high confidence in what kind of cargo it is carrying – I can’t remotely comprehend why they’d let it breach the border much less pass freely thru the center of the nation….
Yes.
Why would China need a spy balloon? Don’t they have satellites for it?
Someone somewhere in the past few hours who seemed to have an idea of what he is talking about said a good bit of signals intel + such is much harder to access via Satellites due to something with the atmosphere.
I do know multiple balloons hover over Kabul 24/7 + the US has plenty of cutting edge satellites to use over it….
Impeach Biden for High Crimes! He failed to protect America! TOMORROW!
Unexplained explosion over Billings, Montana-
but the Wuhan-Flew balloon is over Missouri now-
What’s going on ?
Multiple balloons over multiple nations is not a good thing.
This is not Bombers probing along borders to provoke a response.
This is either a Message or the start of a larger operation that will be far more clear by morning…
Yes. This is beyond disturbing.
The fact that the US has done nothing about it is what is beyond disturbing
If a balloon or similar is reported over Western Europe at the same time as the central US —— pray a little harder……
An EMP over the US would be Earth-shaking.
An EMP over both would be Earth-shattering.
One between SK + Japan at the same time would make me weak in the knees as well…
P45/P47 real Pres Trump is RIGHT !
Shoot the damn rthings to smithereens.
Maybe it’s the 2nd balloon some are reporting.
BTW, Whiteman AFB is in MO.
Home of the B2 Bomber and it’s nascent successor.
Yep
Controlled descent into Fort Hood, Texas would be just the job for Elon Musk, the “King of Controlled Descents.”
He brought down the commie twitteee bird in great style.
Taking control of and “descending” the red blimp should be child’s play for him.
I fear such thoughts are a pleasant fantasy, no rudeness intended, such things are not as easy as our beloved SciFi stories would suggest, and I’ve my share of such dreams myself.
Sorry, Maquis……….. “/s” was implied……. will be sure to include it next time.
Have a grrrrreat MAGAAAAAA evening!
Ahhh, you got me, shoulda figured!
When I see this type of news, I’m suspicious. Well, not unlike like much today…
So let’s play what if:
I think all are plausible at this point
The furor over this is insane, and the press is ignorant beyond belief.
First of all, we’ve known about it since it left the ground. Military radar systems know where every single thing in the airspace over entire globe, all the time. Thus we know who launched it.
Secondly, if it carried a nuclear device we would know it because there are nuclear particle detectors all over the place that know if a thing is a weapon (and for this reason, “suitcase nukes across the border” aren’t a thing, either).
Though I basically don’t believe anything that comes out of a Chinese government-owned mouth, I tend to think they are being honest when they say this is a civilian meteorological balloon. The military advantage they are getting here, in spades, is watching how we (and the Canadians) react to it.
Since it is an errant balloon (happens all the time) over US airspace, we should send up a plane that can get that high, put a few bullet holes in it, let it float gently to earth, and then tear it apart down to the microns to see what it actually is. And then a complete report on it should be released to the public. Perhaps then the newsies would stop having aneurysms over it.
Much fooforaw over not much, and I wish I could find some other news on the net, sheesh.
As of right now, the word is that there are multiple unexpected balloons over multiple nations.
Unless this is a Suicidal Propaganda Hoax in the ballpark of a War of the World’s radio broadcast – the Runaway Balloon item seems highly unlikely….
How far does alpha radiation travel? beta? gamma?
Alpha and beta dissipate rather quickly. Alpha particles are so large they have difficulty penetrating skin, beta can be stopped by clothing.
Gamma particles are the smallest particles and travel the farthest, several feet through air and several inches through skin. Thus they are far more dangerous.
Since when do we allow manned or unmanned aircraft/spy craft to float over our country?
the point is – and let me put it this way –
what would happen to a US “so called weather balloon” which accidentally/on purpose
drifted on to China’s country? You know the answer – *#!!*# kaboom!
We did nothing!!!! That is what the uproar is about.
Something got blown out of the sky…
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/02/massive-explosion-billings-
montana/
Someone in another group claimed it is drifting around at the perfect altitude for an EMP strike. Could that be the “weather” information they’re collecting?
EMP strikes and the like could be evolving?
And could be detect if it was seeded with bioweapons ?
A quick look seemed to show —- the reported Altitude is too low for a standard EMP. It would need to be around 15 miles up at minimum for the initial burst to interact with items found in specific layers of the atmosphere to produce what is needed to lead to an EMP.
But – if the balloon(s) have changed course mechanically — as has been reported — can they also change altitude…?
Either way —— if we don’t have very high confidence in what is or isn’t on board – not taking it down doesn’t make sense to me…
when does the real China invasion begin ?
we are ripe for the picking
no thanks to the WEF Stooges
that have stolen our country !
No one is invading mainland CONUS. We have a great Navy and Airforce and whoever wants to take their shot, would have to cross a massive ocean.
Or send an invasion force disguised as innocent migrant males of military age across a border.
FXHedge
@Fxhedgers
U.S. SAYS CHINESE SPY BALLOON HAS NOT BEEN SHOT DOWN OVER MONTANA: FOX
8:41 PM · Feb 3, 2023
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US govt says we are scared
Shawn Farash is amazing as DT’s voice. Sounds exactly like our President
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/02/massive-explosion-billings-montana/
me
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IMHO this incursion, intentional or not, is a defacto probing action trying to ascertain Biden’s probable reaction to a Chicom invasion of Taiwan…just sayin’.
that sounds like a good wortking hypothesis
Gotta love MTG!
grifter MTG lost her luster by supporting the WEF Kevin
???
What does this have to do with the discussion at hand?
HA !
I can’t remember which general “predicted” war with china in 2025. I was all concerned that they’d do it after the lection. It looks like it might be sooner.
It IS a disgrace. We fail to defend our airspace, citizens and territory. The ultimate treason. And nothing is being done about it.
They are all complicit.
Chinese Spy Balloon Over U.S. Sparks Wave of Backlash for Biden
https://www-newsweek-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.newsweek.com/chinese-spy-balloon-over-us-sparks-wave-backlash-biden-1778686?amp=1&_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16754753546716&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newsweek.com%2Fchinese-spy-balloon-over-us-sparks-wave-backlash-biden-1778686
You can bet the Chinese are up to no good. They claim these are weather balloons. Really? There are more sophisticated ways to study the weather without the use of balloons.
Regardless, they have no right to float anything over our country
Ask why this is happening. If there really was a Chinese spy balloon do you really think they would tell us? Is this for real, I don’t think it is. Why now? Why there? Every day it’s a new strange thing. Ask why.
Do you get a warm fuzzy feeling when you punch into the calculator that these balloons are tens of thousands of feet overhead just weeks after Talking Heads in the WEF + Gov + so on were talking on camera about how a Cyber or other Attack could strike the US Power Grid or the next Pandemic would likely come from a Bioweapon + not Naturally like with Covid (wink wink)….?
iggyb, you HAVE something there ! If only P45 was still at the helm and not the
senile imposter posterboy for payola.
Interesting times! 😉
If a Chinese balloon has not been spotted over your state, your state is just not that important.
Thank G-d
IT IS BALLOON!!!
F-Troop.
Those were simpler times.
What’s the name of that thing where they had every American glued to their radios like back in the 1940’s (?), waiting for the alien invasion or something?
Cuz that’s what this is starting to remind me of.
War of the Worlds.
Thank you!
Orson Welles. I can hear his voice now.
Heard a recording of it once, long ago, trying to imagine what it was like for people who thought it was a “real life” happening.
Well what a coinkydink!
Orson Welles is on a repeat of the Dick Cavett Show, playing as we speak on Decades TV.
Missed the 1st 20 min., but we’ll see if he talks about it.
Orson just said that, shortly after the “War of the Worlds” broadcast that had fooled so many, he was on the radio announcing news when Pearl Harbor was bombed.
He reported it, but because of the previous War of the Worlds fiasco, many did not believe it was true.
I did too on Halloween. I thought it was pretty cool
Imma go blast a water tower!
Orson Welles. A great story teller.
I just watched it last night, weird
You are probably thinking of that infamous War of the Worlds radio broadcast.
https://www.history.com/news/inside-the-war-of-the-worlds-broadcast
Yep!! You got it. Thx.
Great article.
Never knew that they had broadcast a disclaimer at the beginning, warning people that it was just a script, but that so many had missed the start of the show that most believed it was real!
HG Wells’ WAR OF THE WORLDS screenplay, which people tuned in middle of and thought
it was news reports.
But the script of current national and world sitation is a script
no one would put on air…not believable.
We have been marched to this New Normal of Abnormalism strp by step,
and resistance and belief hesitancy is ….frowned on, tracked,
and put on lists for gulags-in-waiting….?
Wednesday marks the 75th anniversary of Orson Welles’ electrifying War of the Worlds broadcast, in which the Mercury Theatre on the Air enacted a Martian invasion of Earth. “Upwards of a million people, [were] convinced, if only briefly, that the United States was being laid waste by alien invaders,” narrator Oliver Platt informs us in the new PBS documentary commemorating the program.
The panic inspired by Welles made War of the Worlds perhaps the most notorious event in American broadcast history.
That’s the story you already know—it’s the narrative widely reprinted in academic textbooks and popular histories. With actors dramatizing the reaction of frightened audience members (based on contemporaneous letters), the new documentary, part of PBS’s American Experience series, reinforces the notion that naïve Americans were terrorized by their radios back in 1938. So did this weekend’s episode of NPR’s Radiolab, which opened with the assertion that on Oct. 30, 1938,
“The United States experienced a kind of mass hysteria that we’ve never seen before.”
There’s only one problem: The supposed panic was so tiny as to be practically immeasurable on the night of the broadcast. Despite repeated assertions to the contrary in the PBS and NPR programs, almost nobody was fooled by Welles’ broadcast.
Is the balloon guidable at all or just at the mercy of thr winds? If no propulsion, i would not doubt it being a test to determine the winds at those heights for a bit more aggressive action later. Get us used to a balloon then next one coming over has an aerosolized gift for us.
Good question. Depends on the balloon type and how it can transit different altitudes under on-board or remote control, utilizing differing wind patterns.
We’ve got a bit of a wonky jet stream at the lower altitudes right now and it appears a depression in the tropopause that will be impacting portions of Canada and the northern U.S. tonight, bringing high surface winds and very cold temperatures, generally not normally seen at the surface in those areas.
I grew up with the DEW Line and Operation Chrome Dome so this is all a bit odd to me. Bizarre. Oh, well.
I read that it is being maneuvered by Chinese spy satellite
It can only maneuver by changing altitude to seek different winds, if it even incorporates the means to do so.
No doubt it is indeed using a satellite uplink to transmit its data.
I just hope it’s not packed with the latest recipe from the Wuhan Virus Institute. Kalki, a novel by Gore Vidal has a similar plot. It’s a great read, would make a good movie.
Did Hillary trade her broom in for a balloon ?
I just want to know one thing, how do they know it is Chinese, is there a CCP on it. Now the other question,how do you make a balloon go where you want it too,other than steering winds which change.
The Chinese claimed it.
I read where it is being steered but who the hell knows, the only thing I believe is it is Chinese (because they said so).
Maybe it came from Wuhan and is sprinkling the May Queen
All Americans should demand an abrupt end to the building of and buying of military fighter jets at massive expense to the American taxpayer.
Get rid of all American military fighter pilots of all branches and recruit no new ones. We do not need them because they no longer have any role to play in defending the USA.
There is no defense happening anymore in the Defense Department. The DOD is just a boondoggle to make weapons contractors even more wealthy than they are now.
Congratulations to our greatest military ever!!!
Instead of acting rashly they have continued full steam ahead with their DIE (Diversity, Inclusion, Equity) training classes. Although they are certainly making progress, there are still not nearly enough transgenders in our military. That’s a real problem, not some Chinese balloon floating around. They are busy focusing on the real problems like white supremacy, global warming deniers and Christian home schoolers. Thank goodness!
OK, in my personal Trump style:
“Shoot Down the Fu=u%*^*^ng balloon. You stupid, jerk FJB!!”
It took me a while to learn how to deal with Trumpisms, but then, I saw his results and I thought about that movie, “Back To School” with Rodney.
I think the real question we should be asking is why the Biden Administration allowed the balloon to enter the airspace of the continental United States. Clearly, we have the capabilities to have tracked this thing since it left the ground somewhere in China. We have probably had assets that could interdict it along its entire flight path across the Pacific. Yet the administration did not use these assets to destroy it.
To me this does not point to incompetence. It is easy to say Biden is stupid and ineffective, but that’s the whole reason the Oligarchy behind him chose him. He can be laughed at when ridiculous things happen, while the deeper questions are never asked. I believe that the balloon was intentionally allowed to float into our airspace. Look at the reaction from everyone, everything from the balloon having something in it, to some going so far as to call it an act of war.
It is clear that China has been chosen to be the public enemy, that there are many in the Oligarchy (Deep State) who would like a hot conflict against China over Taiwan. China is still not able to launch any kind of real attack on the continental United States. The fleet, equipment, and personnel required simply do not exist yet. And we are also assuming that China would even need or want a direct hot conflict with the United States. But the Deep Staters have been building a narrative that China is this hostile nation, like Russia, and they are just roaring to attack US interests in the Pacific.
China is a major competitor, and the CCP is an evil organization that commits atrocities upon its own people, and now the world through COVID-19. But I think everyone is getting their knickers in a bunch over what is essentially an innocuous event other than the fact that the balloon is CCP in origin. This whole thing is being used by certain segments of the Biden Admin to stoke the flames of interventionism. China just reopened its economy after essentially destroying with two years of lock downs. Now they are dealing with the consequences of just opening and letting the virus go wild within their population. Just my point of view on the matter.
Why didn’t Canada shoot it down when it was in the airspace? Anyone hear anything from Canada about this?
have you seen Trudeau?
Notice that the Documents have disappeared from the front page. 48hr news cycle.
But it got in didn’t it? Across the sea, over land (spotted over Canada first) and silently sailed on into America under our defense systems, ships, satellites, before we saw it.
One of our biggest defense systems is at the Northern boundary of Washington state. It sailed right by. Would it have been seen if it were nighttime?
You shoot it down because you decide where the impact will be.
A deliberate behavior; they could have notified us their balloon “escaped”, what it contains. If China was the least interested in a single American’s safety.
My guess; China ran a fire drill; testing our abilities; how we discovered it (by sight!) how long it took us, how we responded, what was our secondary reaction.
I don’t doubt we saw it well before it reached US airspace.
The better question is, why wasn’t it shot down the instant it breached Alaska? Did someone order a stand down?
It’s not under our defense systems @ 60k feet.
it entered Alaska first, then crossed Canada into Montana. they have been tracking it. They (USA) new about it and hoped no one would notice.. my guess it has a virus spraying apparatus on board…….probably financed by Gates or Phizer.
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In 2003, Space Shuttle Columbia disintegrated as it reentered atmosphere. The debris field stretched from Texas to Louisiana. No one on the ground died. Yet Biden DOD claiming it can’t shoot down China’s spy balloon–even over sparsely populated Montana–due to collateral damage?
Maybe Chyna told them what was in the payload
Look! !
Up in the sky!!
It’s a bird!!!
It’s a plane!!!
It’s super balloon!!!!
IDK about the balloon but there’s a Blackhawk that’s been loitering NNW of Helena MT for a good while now and it’s decayed to a near hover over a certain area there.
Saw a twin rotor going back and forth between Helena and Bozeman earlier. No other military aircraft squawking in that area. Could be training ops but seems odd and coincidental.
Don’t Look Up
It’s our right to look up. Pentagon says so.