President Donald Trump came under massive amounts of fire recently for saying, “So, with the revelation of MASSIVE & WIDESPREAD FRAUD & DECEPTION in working closely with Big Tech Companies, the DNC, & the Democrat Party, do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution. Our great “Founders” did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!”
What President Trump is noting, is the exact same reason why Kari Lake’s lawsuit, like every other election lawsuit before it, will fail. Our U.S. Constitution permits election fraud and manipulation, as long as that state level election fraud and manipulation does not break federal law. {Direct Rumble Link} – WATCH:
Obviously, it would be frustrating for President Trump to ask legal advisors what can be done about certified results from fraudulently constructed elections. The reply from the legal advisors around the state certification would frustrate anybody, because the constitution permits fraudulent elections. The decision on how to conduct elections is entirely up to the states.
The states, via state legislature, determine their election rules, laws and outcomes that eventually lead to state certification. If a state wants to block voters, impede voters, or manipulate the voting outcome, there is generally nothing in federal law to stop them – as long as the state or county does not break federal laws protecting classes or protected categories of persons.
Federal law generally prohibits disenfranchisement of people based on race, age, national origin, sex, marital status, disability, pregnancy, gender, sexual orientation and disability, along with other categories.
Federal law does not prohibit disenfranchisement based on ideology, political affiliation or outlook. If a state or local election system wants to block voters based on affiliation or ideology, they can…. as long as it doesn’t have a disparate impact on the protected category.
If a state legislature wanted to assign 1/2 value to each Republican vote, there is nothing in the constitution that would prohibit that rule.
If a state election outcome results in the loss of 50% of the republican votes in the local or state election, there is nothing in the federal law that would correct the issue. The state is responsible for certifying the results.
The supreme court will not hear an election controversy issue or legal challenge based on certified results from states. The constitution permits states to conduct their own elections, and as long as federal laws are not violated, the state certification ends the discussion. This is the great dichotomy within U.S. election around election manipulation by a state or local election officials. There is no federal recourse if no federally protected category was adversely impacted.
The DNC argues election disenfranchisement, rules, dates, times, locations, etc based entirely on protected federal categories, ie. the date or method of the election has an adverse impact to a specifically protected category of racial minorities. This is the typical DNC lawsuit.
EX. the RNC or DNC candidates have no legal footing to sue in federal court if everyone wearing a green shirt was turned away from county polling locations; unless they can prove that a green shirt was worn by a higher percentage of a protected category of persons (i.e., disparate impact).
Additionally, due to the private nature of the corporations that run candidates, notably the RNC and DNC, there is also no prohibition to stop the RNC or DNC from disapproving candidates unless they also were discriminating based on a protected category. Not coincidentally, political parties are not recognized in the U.S. constitution.
This election reality is why control over state level elections is where the battle has to be fought. Once a state certifies the election outcome, there is almost no way the federal courts can/will intervene unless the lawsuit is based on a claim that federally protected voters were specifically targeted.
Like we actually have a Constitution anymore.
All Lake had to do was play the game, like the GOP candidates in CA and NY did, and she would have won. Ballot harvest.
And stay away from idiots like Charlie Kirk who managed to cause 30k voters to give up on casting ballots.
“To others, it’s a brazen grab for “runaway legislative power” by state lawmakers who say the U.S. Constitution grants them exclusive elections authority, making them immune from their own state constitutions and courts.
At its heart, Moore v. Harper is about the Independent State Legislature (ISL) theory, an obscure doctrine that has gained traction among some conservatives that will be debated in oral arguments on Dec. 7 before the U.S. Supreme Court in Washington”
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/12/05/president-trump-was-correct-about-the-constitution-and-elections-kari-lakes-lawsuit-shows-why/#more-240583
This is one of the reasons the lawyers for the RNC are just snowing people by ‘focusing’ on the pre-election period to give the MAGA candidates a false sense of security and common purpose and the moment the election is over abandon those same candidates to ‘focus’ on the next candidate in another State – these lawyers know once an election is certified it’s over. And so is the expectation of the MAGA candidate.
Which is interesting, because I thought that the court told Lake in Arizona that she couldn’t file a suit or bring this before a judge until the state certified the election because there was nothing to fight until it was certified. Sounds like they got YOU both ways. No way to fight bef ore the election is certified, and once certified…its over!
How can the federal government order a State to open up it’s Voter Registration Databases to the federal government, since by doing so the affected State has lost control of its election process guaranteed to it under the Constitution?
” Our U.S. Constitution permits election fraud and manipulation, as long as that state level election fraud and manipulation does not break federal law. ”
“This election reality is why control over state level elections is where the battle has to be fought. Once a state certifies the election outcome, there is almost no way the federal courts can/will intervene unless the lawsuit is based on a claim that federally protected voters were specifically targeted.”
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Thus the constitutional rules are clear: the Federal government cannot directly compel the States to pass certain laws or act in accord with the Federal government’s policy agenda. And this includes, as the Court established in Murphy v. NCAA, a prohibition on Federal laws that forbid States from legislating or acting in a certain way. In Murphy, the Court invalidated a federal requirement that prohibited States from overturning their existent sports gambling prohibition laws — with Justice Alito, writing for the majority, explaining that the Federal government could neither “compel a State to enact legislation” nor forbid “a State from enacting new laws.”
https://www.law.georgetown.edu/salpal/can-president-trump-countermand-state-and-local-closing-and-stay-at-home-orders-a-constitutional-overview/
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Limits on Executive Orders
Executive orders are not unchecked strokes of power from the president’s pen; they can be challenged and deemed unlawful by federal courts. In fact, the U.S. Supreme Court determined during the Korean War that executive orders must fit within a certain sphere of power and cannot simply defy Congressional intent.
https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/law-and-life/what-are-executive-orders-what-are-their-limits/
What’s the definition of a “federally protected voter”?
Why isn’t EVERYONE a federally-protected voter?
Isn’t our right to vote based in the U.S. Constitution (i.e., federal)?
With the federal government and the Supreme Court unlikely to protect voting rights in a substantial way in the near future, it’s up to the states to take action to protect voting. We previously outlined some steps individual states can take, like removing barriers to voter registration, making casting a ballot as easy as possible and passing a state-level voting rights act.
https://www.democracydocket.com/analysis/what-does-the-constitution-say-about-the-right-to-vote/
Here is the problem, “We previously outlined some steps individual states can take, like removing barriers to voter registration”. Federal voter registration tampering to favor one party over another. Is a fact, that must be addressed. The same can be said for States.
EO’s issued by the President to allow access to voter registration databases or additional amendments can not address or prevent the greed or power driven leadership at a State or Federal level.
Candidates for office must be very carefully selected. With high moral qualities, intelligence, honesty etc.
In short, the U.S. Constitution and Federal amendments or nothing more than processes. And these processes will function no better than the people who run them. Select, your very best people to run them or expect dysfunctional governments to form.
Wow!
Not true that all lawsuits have this problem. There was a lawsuit Patrick Byrne mentioned some time ago, not sure what its current status is, which was arguing that in fact the election fraud did discriminate based on federally protected categories – basically because it was mainly poor and ethnic neighborhoods where fake ballots were entered for real people.
What happens is, you go around these neighborhoods and have big voter registration drives to get those names on the rolls, but you know they aren’t likely to vote, so you put in a fake ballot for each real name, and they never know unless they do show up to vote. And if they do, you tell them “our records show you already voted, so we can’t let you vote again, but here’s a provisional ballot you can fill out if you want to contest it.” Meanwhile, the fake ballot gets counted and mixed in with all the real ballots, while the person’s provisional ballot doesn’t even enter the process unless the race is close within certain limits.
I cynically posted the other day that the Democrats had found the Achilles heel in the Constitution that fraudulent elections were Constitutional and those protesting a fraudulent election were violating the Constitution! I thought for sure that post was wrong when I wrote but I was just expressing the reality of what I was seeing what was/had been going on. I thought for sure that would be proved wrong. Now I find out, even with all the info coming out about how Twitter suppressed the Hunter criminality on his laptop, there’s nothing that can done at the Federal level? But do the individual State’s Constitutions allow for fraud in elections? If “fraud vitiates everything” at the Federal level does that not apply to the States? So all the time, money and effort of 2000 Mules and all the other documentations of election fraud are to no avail? So the Feds can stick their nose and interfere in all kinds businesses, usurp all kinds of powers from the States violating the 10th Amendment but not when it comes to elections? Federalism except for elections!! Who knew? Apparently the Democrats/Lawfare!!
To top it all off missing person Katy Hobbs is certified the Governor of Arizona and there is nothing that can be done about it? Sad day very sad day!!! Now I have some small understanding of the sense of disappointment at various times Washington felt during the American Revolution or Lincoln felt during the Civil War! We are not in a hot war but we are in a war nonetheless for the survival of this country and we’re being severely tested whether this Republic as founded can endure much longer. My disappointment/discouragement is at an all time at this very moment! I will pray about this and hopefully be better tomorrow for I believe and have faith that God is in control of all of it! God help us soon!! Hosanna!
Is it an Achilles heel in the law which says, Do not murder, or in one who commits the act?
Shall the law become so onerous that every conceivable act of man be codified on paper if it be not on the heart? Should we be burdened so heavily under the weight of a mountain of text forbidding this, permitting that; requiring we ask first?
What then of self-determination of a self-governing people. Because if indeed it be the document itself which is proved insufficient, let us cast it away to shackle ourselves to totalitarian mandates.
Whereby we should be free, for neither to think, or to decide; but only to act and only in accordance to that given not by our hearts or minds, virtue or honor, but firstly by our governors. They may govern well, but they mean to govern.
Yes, let’s do that (sarcasm) for the greatest founding document under heaven is deficient!
It’s not that fraudulent elections are constitutional. It’s impossible to overturn a certified election. Anyone can question the validation of an election.
Stop praying and either donate to an organization working for honest elections in your state or go to work for the organization.
I think I can handle both so no I won’t stop praying! Maybe you should start praying?
The gloating Time Article on how a cabal “fortified” the ’20 elections is a broad strokes map on how a fraud was made legal by courts and State executives, in violation of State’s and Federal Constitutions, where any changes to the who, how and when of elections is the sole purview of the State Legislature, often requiring more than one bill to be passed by them.
By gaming the system, they disenfranchised the entire population of voters affected by the changes.
made legalaccomplishedRush predicted all this.
I’m sure there were a lot of people of color who wanted to vote for Lake. Gather a few of those for a federal suite.
And THAT may be one way forward for us. I think PDJT is peeling off black male voters in substantial numbers. We/he needs to find a way to leverage that reality to identify ballot fraud, possibly?
When there is a coup against a president that is also completed; sedition and treason have clearly taken place–there are extreme measures that must be taken for continuity of government.
It is those who have committed these federal high crimes who by their actions have overthrown our government and our constitution with it.
This is not simply cheating–
the presidency and the government of the United States were overthrown by communists in 2020. This is not an overstatement.
As President Trump expressed: “Unprecedented cures” are required.
It is not easy for America to face that we really are occupied by communists and that we actually have NO voice under tyrannical rule–only a pretend one.
But we are in enemy hands.
And I believe God has a plan that is so outside the box for our reasoning ability–
but yet will fit completely with what our founding fathers put in place once His plan–
His “cure” comes to light.
God really is our only hope. Yet is using President Trump who I believe has more things in place than we can imagine.
It’s a matter of timing
Leave these things to GOD and you will lose
Nobody is leaving it totally to God, God helps those who help themselves. So, we stay awake, aware, do what we can, spread the Truth, never give up and then…have the faith that what you have done and hold in your heart will be manifested and play out through God’s plan. Sir…to leave God out of it will bring about your loss and pain!
God does not help those who help themselves – that is not in the Bible and God has some pretty strong words for people who trust in their own strength. He helps those who put their total trust in Him.
And who is winning in leaving things to themselves?
If it doesn’t start with prayer in utter dependence upon God –
We end up places like this.
Exactly
I kind of agree that “all we can do is pray” and I have complete and total faith in God but He also gave us brains to think of a solution. I haven’t seen any organized effort to use our huge numbers to effect change. We are 50% of the country! I wish I was younger and had more influence. I don’t see these young conservatives with following doing much but complaining on twitter.
Neil Oliver started calling for this a week or so ago…..what if we all…..thats right. If we all got together as ONE and we….did what we have to do. Stop this, do this…whatever. That may be closer than we think! And by the way….
We are more than 50% of the country. We are the majority, they don’t have the numbers you think. They just make it look big because they have the media, tv, etc…we definitely out number them and we could shut this country down if we needed to!
God gave us brains so that we may know him, hear his voice, and carry out his will.
He says that he is the beginning and the end –
Everything must begin with him. He said of Mary who was sitting at his feet and being criticized for doing nothing: “But there is only one thing that is necessary” Luke 10:42.
The Lord also says that our own righteousness is like filthy rags –
We have no idea what to do apart from him. And he rightly says that we can do NOTHING apart from him.
King Jehoshaphat while finding out about a massive army coming against them sad “We don’t know what to do, but our eyes are upon you” 2 chronicles 20:12.
He was a very strong king, but he knew that it was only God who had the power, wisdom, and ability to defeat the enemy.
In this case, Judah’s Army didn’t end up even having to fight. The Lord brought about the enemy armies destroyed each other.
And there will be times he says to fight or take other actions.
But we mustn’t do anything without his specific personal direction for us.
Trump Didn’t Say to Terminate Constitution After Revelation of ‘Twitter Files’ – Don’t Let Media Fool You…He was only talking about ELECTION Law, and what he said makes perfect sense. Read the entire article for full clarification.
https://www.westernjournal.com/trump-didnt-say-terminate-constitution-revelation-twitter-files-dont-let-media-fool/?ff_source=site&ff_medium=protrumpnews&ff_campaign=can
On Monday, he let both barrels loose and wrote, “The Fake News is actually trying to convince the American People that I said I wanted to ‘terminate’ the Constitution. This is simply more DISINFORMATION & LIES, just like RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA, and all of their other HOAXES & SCAMS. What I said was that when there is “MASSIVE & WIDESPREAD FRAUD & DECEPTION,” as has been irrefutably proven in the 2020 Presidential Election, steps must be immediately taken to RIGHT THE WRONG. Only FOOLS would disagree with that and accept STOLEN ELECTIONS. MAGA!”
Indeed, a close look at his original post should inform the reader that Trump was talking about election law, not the entire U.S. Constitution. Context matters, here.
Trump opened his Truth Social post saying specifically, “So, with the revelation of MASSIVE & WIDESPREAD FRAUD & DECEPTION” in the 2020 election “do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION?”
Note that he is talking about the election. He did not add into the equation the entire U.S. government. He was focused only on the election.
Then he wrote, “A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution.”
Again, you have to look at “even those found in the Constitution.” That is your cue that he was talking about particular rules, not the whole Constitution.
We must realize that there is no specific process laid out in the Constitution that describes how we handle a fraudulent election. And if massive fraud is found, Trump is saying that such a finding “allows” for the rules guiding elections to be set aside and a redress of the fraud to be made.
In fact, the Constitution was violated in the first place by the election fraudsters. But, in the end, Trump was talking about correcting a fraudulent election and citing election law in that pursuit. He did not say “throw out the whole constitution,” like so many leftists are claiming.
Was it the best way of saying this? No. Should he have used the word “terminate”? Probably not. But his sentiment is clear. Whether you believe the 2020 election was fraudulent or not, “terminating” a fraudulent election was his point, not erasing the entirety of our American system of government.
He’s got Them Defending OUR Constitution Now doesn’t he ;~)
I’d say that’s Special !!!
“This is Brnovich’s moment to rise…”
He, and others, could and should have risen in 2020 and failed to do so. His 2020 moment will be repeated.
He’s a rhino rat in case you didn’t know! Expecting him to do the right thing is the same as expecting that out of any aspect of this regime. Not gonna happen!
Well it surely depends on the legal definition of an election.
If that definition allows for fake people voting I would like to read it.
“Federal law generally prohibits disenfranchisement of people based on race, age, national origin, sex, marital status, disability, pregnancy, gender, sexual orientation and disability, along with other categories.”
The fake ballots from non existent persons disenfranchise real living breathing humans
People need to be more creative in their lawsuits.
Sue for some of the above reasons. (disability, pregnancy. etc.)
Then when they come back with ‘these people can be accommodated via mail in ballots. Sue again.
Sue that mail in voting is isolating people from society.
Yes, but how do you prove it was based on discrimination? Even though individuals in those protected groups were disenfranchised the polls didn’t single them out intentionally.
Does it have to be intentional?
There is passive discrimination.
There is indirect discrimination
There is perceptive discrimination.
Play their game. 😏
It doesn’t matter if it was intentional or not…. it only matters whether there was ‘disparate impact’.
Might election fraud also disenfranchise people based on national origin? It seems that it disenfranchised Americans, and only Americans, people who wanted to exercise their right to vote and were not able to do so.
Why are just “protected classes” protected. All citizens are getting screwed and forced to pay for the rape.
Exactly, I thought we were all created equal or is it some people are created more equal?
Wouldn’t it be nice if American CITIZENS were protected in America?
Those days are long gone.
No.
If Electors are not regularly given – fraudulently derived by an election – then they are not to be accepted ! Thus, Congress shall not count them !
ALL Citizens are protected when it is lawful for them to vote. Name a case in opposition !
But your words are mute and BS
Good grief, the U.S. Constitution does not allow or permit election fraud.
Permit: to give, expressly allow, to grant or consent
The Constitution does nothing of the sort.
John Adams warned that our Constitution is fit only for a moral and religious people, it is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
We could have a Constitutution which closes this ‘loophole’. Of course that would be authoritarian and contrary to the intent of establishing a self-governing people.
That our nation holds the oldest Constitution in the world speaks to its magnificence and completeness. Where there be fault, it lies not with the document, but with the people.
Certainly Fearless Leader knows this. I deduce it be hyperbole intended for some arcane reason.
I think the point is that they are skirting election integrity by state law. Pretty sure the constitution does give that kind of power to the states.
Any action or attempt to suspend the U.S. Constitution is abhorrent regardless of who ordered or requested for it to be suspended.
The U.S. Constitution is permanent and cannot be suspended. It enumerates and protects our unalienable, God given rights referenced in the Declaration of Independence.
Wonder if….We can prove it was Christians that are being discriminated against? They are protected under religion. The people being disenfranchised aren’t just republicans or conservative but are indeed a “protected class”.
I am not a Constitutional scholar, but I find it somewhat amazing that, despite how insightful the Constitution is, our founding fathers did not anticipate rogue/corrupt state governments that could affect federal outcomes.
The Constitution is not a suicide pact.
As others said. It was made for a moral and religious people. No government is perfect, but they gave us the best they could. I believe they gave us other tools that no other government dare give it’s citizens, comes down to whether we exercise it or at least enough of us do.
In Yeehaw Junction we would initiate a RECALL process on the winner(s) of a dirty election.
Here’s how to do it in Arizona. The question is whether or not there are 25% of voters in Arizona that give a sh_t and have been following the corruption.
They need to stop playing around in court suits.
“[IN ARIZONA] A recall can be filed against any public officer on any grounds. The recall may not be filed until after the elected official has been in office in his or her first term for at least six months. This six-month limit does not apply to state legislators. In the case of state legislators, a recall petition may commence five days after the start of their first legislative session after their election. In the case of other elected officials, there is no six-month limit for subsequent terms in office.[2]
A recall petition must be filed at the office in which the officer being recalled files for nomination. The petition must contain a general statement explain the recall and not exceed 200 words. This petition must be signed by the sponsors who swear an oath that all signatures collected will be valid signatures.
Signature requirements
The number of signatures required to qualify a recall attempt for the ballot is 25 percent of the number of votes cast in the last election for that office.”
Link: https://ballotpedia.org/Laws_governing_recall_in_Arizona
Good post. I had an idea for maga candidates ON ELECTION DAY, to go ahead and collect signatures (in designated areas near the precints) from voters for a recall. If that particular election is obviously stolen, then you already have the signatures ready for the recall election.
Sure, recall her and then there’s another election run by the corrupt Sec of State Fontes and we get more of the same. Once they committed this fraud there is no way to combat it except for decisive actions…sorry to say.
What do you think the presidential election is it’s a federal election presidents controls the federal government therefore the presidential race is a federal election So cheating in the presidential race Is illegal and not permitted It’s a crime against the federal government.
No where in the constitution does it say cheating is permissible if it does show me. Why do people try to psycho analyze the constitution it says just what it says.
If states pass laws legalizing ballot harvesting. That is the law of that state and perfectly legal. Granted there’s other shenanigans that are illegal but I agree e with Sundance. That’s a tall mountain with regards to laws that are passed at the state level. I bet most of you with republican state legislatures would be surprised at the crap they still manage to pass. State level is corrupted just like federal. I’ve said before, I bet almost every state has some carbon plan or law that urges renewables over fossil fuels.
We have had 13. states independant 11. years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century and a half for each state. What country before ever existed a century and half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure. –Thomas Jefferson
So each state segregates all those who reside in that state from those who reside in the other states?
Understood. However, I maintain that the Texas lawsuit against PA was a different animal. The original pact of federalism allowed for an agreement as to the election of the one person who had executive power over the states as a whole: the President. In that hard fought battle to even agree to such a thing the states agreed as to a process by which each would recognize that President when elected independently by the States. When a state violates that pact by engaging in illegal activity (ie state actors defying their own state laws and state constitutions to deliberately game the electoral college which is my belief) they defraud the other states and disenfranchise the electoral votes of sister states for President. To dismiss such a case on “standing” is reprehensible and I believe stems from the arrogance and narcissism of John Roberts who feared a court packing move that would one debase his power in the Court as well as two historically tarnish his role as Chief Justice because of the negative effects such court packing would have on our Constitutional structure. This case to my way of thinking was not about violations of federal law either as set forth in statutes or in our Constitution, but I would argue this case is the essence of Marbury v. Madison. If a State does not have standing to challenge another State’s violation of that pact then we have worse problems than those created by that abhorrent amendment to the 17th Amendment which created the popular election of Senators rather than leaving that election to the States in the form of their state legislative action.
Are you telling me that in the mountain of Federal laws and statutes there isn’t a word about states conducting Federal elections fairly and uniformly, as the results of those elections effect every citizen of every state? Didn’t we fight a big war once because certain states were conducting themselves in a manner in which other states disapproved ? That would put the people of my state in the position of having to drag those other states into court. But I believe 17 states tried to do that and were denied for lack of standing. So now, our only recourse would be to force those swing states to decertify and reconduct the 2020 presidential election in a manor consistent with all states or we go to war – correct?
The well known John Adams quote, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” comes to mind.
I think he would be surprised it lasted as long as it did. Corrupt bastards abound.
And so it’s no wonder George Soros spends most of his investments aquiring state AGs, Secretaries of State, and district attorneys. True political influence is local.
What happened to one man one vote?
Lost in all of this is that the actual founding document is the Declaration. The Constitution should be seen as the contract implementing the goals in the Declaration (after an earlier failed contract-the Articles of Confederation). When the contract is broken, as it has been, it is void and we revert to original statement of purpose in the Declaration.
Here is the relevant passage.
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
@Sundance, There is a case that is doc’d at the Supreme Court and is scheduled for a review on Jan 6’th If only 4 of the 9 Justices vote for a full hearing it moves forward. This case is different in that it is based on the the fact that the majority in congress did not stop and take 10 days to review whether there was fraud thereby violating their oath they took swearing they would defend against all enemies…
The clerk of the court made 2 phone calls to the plaintiff asking him to make a few changes to the suit and requested him to get it to the court as soon as possible. The Solicitor General waived the rights of the defendants to challenge it.
If this passes all public officials will lose their qualified immunity which will reinstate the 1 0f the 5 pillars of the 1’st amendment, the right to redress our grievances. Go to “7 discoveries dot com” and you can purchase the lawsuit and read it for $1. The case # assigned at the Supreme Court is 22380
Maybe, just maybe this will be like a Roe v Wade decision where the Supreme Court will do the correct thing and hold our public officials accountable to – “We the People” If this passes there will be no one running for public office with nefarious motives.
We apparently did NOT have an election in 2020 that was EXACTLY conducted by the rules spelled out in our Constitution.
Does this deliberate violation of our Constitution, by our own Government, LEGALLY (and Constitutionally) cancel the existence of the USA ?
Is our Country no longer a
Country ?
Once criminals find a weakness they will exploit the weakness until they are stopped.
Just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should. Screw courts, this ends when We The People have had enough and Just Say No!
“The first thing we do, let’s kill all the lawyers” Shakespeare 431 years ago
“…If a return can be obtained, no matter by what unlawful means, the irregular member, who takes his seat of course, is sure of holding it a sufficient time to answer his purposes. Hence, a very pernicious encouragement is given to the use of unlawful means, for obtaining irregular returns. Were elections for the federal legislature to be annual, this practice might become a very serious abuse, particularly in the more distant States. Each house is, as it necessarily must be, the judge of the elections, qualifications, and returns of its members; and whatever improvements may be suggested by experience, for simplifying and accelerating the process in disputed cases, so great a portion of a year would unavoidably elapse, before an illegitimate member could be dispossessed of his seat, that the prospect of such an event would be little check to unfair and illicit means of obtaining a seat. All these considerations taken together warrant us in affirming, that biennial elections will be as useful to the affairs of the public as we have seen that they will be safe to the liberty of the people.” PUBLIUS/Madison 1788
There’s nothing new under the sun the cheat system is now 0’s and 1’s and are manipulated at the nation-state level is treason. The punishment for treason is severe.
We have the Soap Box, the Ballot Box, the Jury Box and the Ammo Box. It’s obvious to me which box will fix this mess.
In Maricopa County, the closed polling places and other deliberate suppression techniques were done in areas that were white and elderly. I am not sure if white is a protected class but age certainly is. I bet if you analyze where the polls were closed you will find a great number of voters over 65 to a significant level. These voters are also less likely to be able to drive around the city looking for open polling places.
Up to now, the talk has been that polls were closed in Republican areas not a protected class- so Kari should amend her suit and sue under equal protection for the elderly and/or white voter whose vote was fraudulently suppressed.
So states that are currently red need to change their state election laws to only count a democrats vote as .50 so it will take two votes to equal one for a democrat. That way they can remain red. Get on it Idaho, Montana, Texas, Florida, Tennessee, Kentucky, Wyoming, Kansas, Nebraska, South Dakota and so on.
Are woman part of the protected class? Can MAGA women sue at the federal level? I am sure many woman had their vote suppressed in Arizona.
Anyone who is not a straight, white, Christian male is a protected class.
State law does Trump federal law in many ways, but I doubt state law approves of stuffing ballot boxes or locking opposition parties from polling places or machines that change ballots.
just say’n.
That is where Soros’ SoS Project came into play. (e.g. Hobbs), and, the strategic placement of traitor Pence on the Trump ticket.
I now suspect that buried deep in the millions of pages of States’ laws the ballot harvesting is now, technically legal.
IF Ballot Harvesting is indeed legal, then we should fight fire with fire and harvest ballots at churches and fraternal gatherings (e.g, the Elks. Club, etc.). As long as it is legal and we don’t do anything that even comes close to being illegal, turn the table, using their prescribed methods.
Daily, my apathy grows and that bothers me because I’m not a quitter. I also remind myself that I’m here to witness this, I have a purpose, but what that purpose is a mystery to me. I feel like I’m standing at the base of a tsunami watching the wave grow, but every step I take to avoid the wave gets heavier and heavier.
Our elections were not designed to be majority rule….. i.e. a Republic.
When I hear cries of “stolen election, I’ll offer my opinion, that the 2020 election result was legitimate because the electoral college process was followed. That process allows for a President to be chosen other that determined by the states’ majority count, and then, even against the electoral count.
Thomas Jefferson, as Vice President, had the final say in his own election, presiding over a House vote to break a tie in his selection as President in a backdrop of wide spread election fraud in some states.
In the case of Joe Biden, Mike Pence as Vice President, presided to accept fraudulent State elections in a backdrop of fraudulent ballot counting, during the House procedure for the 2020 election.
I have long suspected that we were led down a garden path to systemic election fraud through the orchestration of:
_ The hanging chads
_ The Gore-Bush Supreme Court decision which confirmed the final say with Secretaries of States
_ Soros’ SoS project to cement place agents in SoS seats and accept ballot fraud in crucial election states
The odd thing is, why did Garland send the FBI into AZ if there are no federal laws to enforce.
To threaten and intimidate anyone who tried to turn this around at the state level.
Bottom line here is that the RINO’s who allowed the state election laws and process to be overcome by cheating libs have sold us out and sold our country out. Infuriating, mind numbing, depressing and disgusting. Treason.
The only way things change is for the people who perpetrate the fraud to be charged with felonies, arrested, prosecuted, convicted, and thrown in jail.
AGs must be found outside of the Federal government who will do the heavy lifting, including finding judges who are NOT bought and paid for like so many obviously are.
Otherwise we sink more and more into the third world banana republic abyss, where everyone knows we have a corrupt uniparty state, but nothing can be done about it, at some point.
We have one chance to fix this for ’24. And it must be MAGA candidates who win.
The GOPe’s goal is: (1) stop the populist movement and (2) get the Republican Party back in alignment with the multinational “corporate world.”
If the goal now is to recreate the go along-get along country club image of the Republicans, fine. Expect to be on the short end of the stick for the next generation as we slip into a Socialist Utopia run by Democrats, RINOs and the freaks in the WEF.
And if the GOP no longer wants or needs the MAGA movement it is time to get out and get away from McConnell-McCarthy Inc. and form a real conservative party. I am tired of voting for the milquetoast Washington Generals.
I can’t imagine anything more boring than going back to the pre-Trump party. I am done with the Globalist Republicans.
If nothing changes ’24 is my last election. I am out and will work to put a MAGA party together.
I’m dumbfounded, and am having trouble accepting this.
However, what about the equal protection clause. Doesn’t that guarantee that each vote be treated equally? Additionally, what about the issue of foreign interference?
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.
To think Howie Carr can’t figure this out. The way the media has turned on trump disgusts me. Where do we go to get truth telling commentary, pro trump?
They are trying to get us to like Desantis, who would not and could never win a nationwide contest, Dole II
We are granted in the constitution the right to replace by force a tyrannical government!