As the DOJ-NSD originally threatened, they have filed an appeal of the ruling by Judge Cannon in the Trump Mar-a-Lago document case. [Pdf Here]
The DOJ is requesting the 11th Circuit Court to intervene and “stay” or block a part of the ruling allowing the Special Master, Judge Raymond J Dearie, to review the “classified documents” and make an independent determination as to the validity of the DOJ-NSD claims.
Having read all the motions in the case, you can get a sense of the authorship from the motion. From my perspective this effort appears to have been written by the Lawfare group and filed by their allies in Main Justice at the DOJ National Security Division (DOJ-NSD). The bottom line is they really don’t want any outside party making a determination as to the status of the 100 “classified documents,” and/or consider if President Trump had previously declassified them.
The crux of their position is outlined in this part of the motion, which appears to hold a logical fallacy [pdf link Here]:
The framework of the appeal appears to be built on a false premise. The DOJ argument is contingent upon the government not having the original documents, and the claim is made *AS IF* there is only one copy. Even if this appeal is within the framework of a valid issue for an appellate court review (not a guarantee), when you apply commonsense the motion fails on its face.
The original documents are always retained by the originating agency. No one, not even the President, sees original intelligence documents from within any agency creating the product. Everything, including what President Trump would have seen while in office, and including any “read and return” version of the intelligence product, is a copy that stems from the originals. As a result, the executive branch (DOJ) has access to the originals regardless of what copies they may have retrieved from Mar-a-Lago.
Once again, the DOJ -together with the internal intelligence agency, likely the ODNI- is claiming to be the arbiter of the “classification” status of the documents at issue.
If President Trump declassified those documents before leaving office (he did), the “classification” status, another underlying premise, is automatically moot. This reality is the central flaw in the DOJ case and appears to form the basis for Main Justice to be so adamant against anyone else reviewing the documents.
So, there are two structural flaws: (1) There is more than one copy of the documents being argued, and the DOJ has access to the originals; and (2) the classified status of those documents is unknown (hence a special master), and if they were declassified the DOJ-NSD contention around them is automatically moot.
The Special Master appointed by judge Cannon is a former FISA Judge. Judge Raymond J Dearie likely has seen thousands of classified documents over the years, he is not a national security risk by reviewing another set of defined classified documents. Additionally, the documents have been in Mar-a-Lago for almost two years, the urgency claims by Main Justice look silly.
The DOJ-NSD looks desperate and nonsensical in this filing because the arguments being made by the DOJ-NSD are desperate and nonsensical.
The currently presented legal conflict is essentially over a judicial ruling that -if implemented- resolves the legal conflict. Therefore, there is no guarantee the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals will even take the DOJ motion under review. The legal conflict seemingly resolves if the existing judicial ruling is applied.
President Trump declassified documents showing how the corrupt DOJ and FBI targeted him. The corrupt DOJ and FBI went to Mar-a-Lago and took back the evidence against them in the raid, now saying no one should be allowed to see it.
Everything is becoming increasingly transparent.
Overlay the Durham probe and you discover, the govt people responsible for illegally targeting Trump are the same govt people responsible for investigating the illegal Trump targeting.
We keep watching….
(New York Times) – WASHINGTON — The Justice Department asked an appeals court on Friday to let the F.B.I. regain access to about 100 sensitive documents taken from former President Donald J. Trump’s residence in Florida but did not try to block the appointment of an outside arbiter to review other materials.
In a 29-page filing, the department asked the appeals court not to submit the roughly 100 files marked as classified through the vetting process of the arbiter, known as a special master — acquiescing to the review for 11,000 other documents seized from Mr. Trump’s home and resort, Mar-a-Lago. The review has frozen the government’s access to the material as it investigates Mr. Trump’s handling of the documents.
“Although the government believes the district court fundamentally erred in appointing a special master and granting injunctive relief, the government seeks to stay only the portions of the order causing the most serious and immediate harm to the government and the public,” wrote lawyers with the department’s national security division.
[…] The Justice Department initially asked Judge Cannon to stay the portion of her order that blocked it from full investigative use of the 100 or so files with classification markings, but on Thursday she refused to do so. That prompted law enforcement officials to ask the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit, in Atlanta, to issue a stay instead. (read more)
♦ IMPORTANT CONTEXTUAL BACKGROUND – Recently a Florida judge dismissed a lawsuit brought by President Trump against Hillary Clinton. [65-page Ruling Here] The media have enjoyed ridiculing Trump by using the words of the judge who dismissed the case. As noted by the Washington Times, “Judge Donald M. Middlebrooks, a Clinton appointee, said Mr. Trump’s filing was too lengthy, detailing events that “are implausible because they lack any specific allegations which might provide factual support for the conclusions reached.”
In March 2022 President Trump filed a civil lawsuit against: Hillary Clinton, Hillary for America Campaign Committee, DNC, DNC Services Corp, Perkins Coie, Michael Sussmann, Marc Elias, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Charles Dolan, Jake Sullivan, John Podesta, Robby Mook, Phillipe Reines as well as Fusion GPS, Glenn Simpson, Peter Fritsch, Nellie Ohr, Bruce Ohr, Orbis Business Intelligence, Christopher Steele, Igor Danchenko, Neustar Inc., Rodney Joffe, James Comey Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Kevin Clinesmith and Andrew McCabe. [108-Page Lawsuit Here]
When I was about one-third of the way through reading the lawsuit, I initially stopped and said to myself this is going to take a lot of documentary evidence to back up the claims in the assertions. Dozens of attachments would be needed and hundreds of citations to the dozens of attachments would be mandatory. Except, they were not there.
After reading further, while completely understanding the background material that was being described in the filing, I realized this wasn’t a lawsuit per se’. The 108-pages I was holding in my hands was more akin to legal transfer mechanism from President Trump to lawyers who needed it. The filing was contingent upon a series of documents that would be needed to support the claims within it.
Whoever wrote the lawsuit had obviously reviewed the evidence to support the filing. However, the attachments and citations were missing. That was weird. That’s when I realized the purpose of the lawsuit. In hindsight, things became clear when the DOJ-NSD raided the home of Donald Trump, and suddenly the motive to confiscate the documents that would be the missing lawsuit attachments and citations surfaced.
With the manipulative, and I say intentional, “ongoing investigation” angle of the John Durham probe essentially blocking public release of declassified documents showing the efforts of all the lawsuit participants (Trump-Russia Collusion Hoax), President Trump needed a legal way to secure and more importantly share the evidence.
Think of it like the people around Trump wanting to show lawyers the evidence in the documents. However, because of the construct of the lawfare being deployed against Trump, any lawyer would need a *reason* to review the evidence. The Trump -v- Clinton et al lawsuit becomes that ‘reason.’
The “documents” (classified or not) are reviewed by lawyers in preparation for the lawsuit. This is their legal justification for reviewing the documents. In essence, the lawsuit is a transfer mechanism permitting the Trump legal team to review the evidence on behalf of their client, former President Donald Trump.
Once the formation of the lawsuit is established, the retainer and acceptance of the lawyers to represent their client cemented, the legal counsel, discussion and information within legal duties/obligations of those who represent the plaintiff (Trump) becomes an information silo. In addition to previous executive privilege established by President Trump himself; outside government there is now another silo to defend against the motives of the Lawfare crew (DOJ), the attorney-client privilege.
The lawsuit itself is the transfer mechanism permitting sharing of the documents and providing legal cover for the reviewers (lawyers). The details within the 108-page filing constitute the claims of the plaintiff in the lawsuit, which were established by the evidentiary documents later seized by the DOJ and FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago.
“Judge Donald M. Middlebrooks, a Clinton appointee, said Mr. Trump’s filing was too lengthy, detailing events that “are implausible because they lack any specific allegations which might provide factual support for the conclusions reached.”
There were no attachments and/or citations to the documentary evidence in the 108-page filing, because there was a legal risk to citing evidence with a status in dispute by the corrupt people in Main Justice and the FBI. Secondarily, there was an obstruction risk to the President, if his legal team was to publish citations that were part of an ongoing investigation (Durham). However, this doesn’t negate the value of constructing the information silo, an attorney-client privilege.
If the documents seized by the FBI were part of the lawsuit established by President Trump and his legal team via Trump -v- Clinton, then the material seized is attorney client work product. Lawfully obtained, constitutionally declassified and legally protected material.
This is where the ‘special master’ will play a key role.
Keep watching.
So we have a judge who already knows he was lied to by the FBI when he was on the FISA court.
Might he throw out the whole warrant, saying the search was illegal?
That would explode some heads at the FBI/DOJ.
Additionally, the bad guys are saying that the docs belong to the government.
Don’t they belong to the people and don’t we have a right to see them?
Judge Cannon would make that call. Dearie only reviews the documents and reports balls and strikes to Cannon.
Also, the Trump legal teams gets the list of documents taken so they can respond to Cannon (and the press?) accordingly.
Depends on how they’ve threaten him or what they are holding over his head. Looks like right now they are scared but I think it’s more on what gets revealed before this judge does his work which could be like Durham and take eons to actually review. I personally believe that the way to stop them in their tracks is to sue and do discovery as to who is behind these legal proceedings on the “fair and speedy trial” mandate. Even file ethics complaints and disbarment docs so they are outed. If you throw a monkey wrench into their cogs it stops the wheels..like Scotty said on Star Trek..”The more they overthink the plumbing the easier it is to stop up the drain.” Trump needs to get his plumbers busy.
“…………….what gets revealed before this judge does his work which could be like Durham and take eons to actually review.”
Taking eons of time is a feature, not a bug. The best stall tactics last for an eternity.
You know what they say…..possession is 9/10ths of the law!
More likely the judge doesnt want anyone to know or find out how useless he and the flawed system really is.
They are getting more, and more desperate every day.
Yes they are….I’m kinda digging it. Once the screw turns and the shoe is on the other foot, we will have quite a little tool box and precedent to screw them to the wall.
Hey SCUMBAGS….guess what?
NO MERCY…WE WILL SEE ALL OF YOU HANG.
My question is why DJT sat on the docs for 2 yrs? Cannot figure this out but I always sucked at chess-
Barr / Durham were supposed to investigate Russiagate and bring it to a resolution. If you read one of Trump’s executive orders from a few years ago, he gave Bill Barr explicit authority to declassify and use any pertinent documents needed. Ric Grenell hand-delivered a briefcase full of documents to Barr.
Trump didn’t sit on the documents, Barr did.
Correct. And if Trump or his lawyers, or anyone else, released those DOCs they would be prosecuted for “obstruction of justice”, due to the on going Durham (or other hidden investigation, not yet public). Evil people these Lawfair demons.
As SD says, it took the law suit against Hillary for RICO. Then the supporting docs (Russiagate) were in play. Now they are attorney/client privilege. And can be released in time without fear of obstruction charges. From where I sit, since day one back in 2015 Trump unknowingly would have been charged with obstruction. Unfxxkin Believable what these demons have concocted in their theft of our Republic.
Maybe that’s why Barr is working so hard to make Trump look bad in his book and interviews. He doesn’t want Trump to run in 2024 and get elected. Trump could then, with a new AG, reveal all the DOJ corruption under Barr and what Barr did to not investigate the Russia Hoax or the corrupt 2020 election.
Was it Barr who counseled Trump not to clean up Antifa in 2020?
IMHO, The docs were his insurance policy if the DOJ ever decided to come after him. Put it in context of Jan 6. The Hillary lawsuit was another planned counter move in such an event as his targeting, his lawyers then being allowed to review the docs as per attorney client privilege. The DOJ can’t have any of that for their next move, which will be indicting Trump for electoral interference. Pence will testify against him, stating that Trump pressured him to not certify the electoral vote. The Documents that Trump had proved that the DOJ had targeted him from the time he announced his run for president. The same people that are now targeting him over his claims of a stolen election, and not certifying the 2020 sham results. Remove Trumps ability to use the Docs in his defense, and pretty much win your case against him.
Apology to Dr. Pepper, you said the same thing and I missed your post. Sorry.
Trump should actually state that he has three new whistleblowers with big time new evidence that exposes all of the players that were involved in major election fraud in the 2020 election. Mention something about pending indictments and the hope that they happen soon so that all the bad actors will be vulnerable to prosecution. It might make them think twice about indicting or charging Trump with anything.
Judge Canon has final say on the disposition of all of these ‘stolen’ docs and so far, she is batting 1,ooo in Trump’s favor and against the corrupt DO Injustice.
Since she has prohibited the DOJ/FBLies from Leaking them,… what will they leack to their MSM co-conspirators now?
Unfortunately, Trump has reduced himself to reposting Q memes on his Truth Social account proving there is no such plan.
Almost all government documents are created and kept on electronic files. They are NOT typing these documents up on an old fashioned type writer, or writing them in ink with a goose-quill pen. Trump just had a hard copy. IRC, Sandy Berger destroyed documents, not because they were the ONLY copy, but because they had hand written notes/comments that he didn’t want anyone to see.
Finally, all these documents exist on some GOvernment computer system. And backed up on someone’s server or Disk. Further, every classiifed document is time senstive. After a time, everything becomes releasable. Its crazy how corrupt discussion in the USA has become. They’re lying. We know they’re lying. They know we know they’re lying. But the lies continue.
Speaking from experience, they have hard copies on file. It’s what they do.
Iirc… the exception being FIB 302 Reports are still handwritten. How convenient! 🙄
But I’d assume these get scanned into some database eventually.
IF the FBI/DOJ deems a framed “Time” magazine cover as classified – as it was shown in the photo with items strewn on the carpet at Mar-A-Lago – then might items from Melania’s closet and Barron’s bedroom also be on the list of items taken in the raid?
but the stupid half of the country does not know they are lying
That half has no idea what’s going on. You give them too much credit…and I bet it’s more than half.
BJ, respectfully, I beleve your estimate is WAY off.
About 1/5 of any population are “hardcore leftists”.
They use manipulation, propoganda, indoctrination and infiltration of institutions to create a cadre of ‘useful idiots’ in order to swell their #’s.
However, getting and keeping them is dependant on the CREDIBILITY of the institutions they inflitrate and gain control of.
As a result of DJT and MAGA they have destroyed that credibility.
And, Biden has furthered the move to MAGA in ways PDJT could not have (Gods plan?).
I don’t believe we were EVER a 50/50 nation, that was gaslighting,…and their #’s have grown smaller, as MAGA’s #’s have grown larger.
No, Dutchman, like you I agree we were never 50/50. And I see why you read my reply the way you did.
My point really was that more than half of this country has no idea about what is going on outside of their daily lives. My bet is that more than half are not paying any attention to what we here are talking about. No matter stupid or not, Democrat or Republican, whatever comparative one uses.
And further, I believe there are very good reasons for that. They’ve got bigger issues to consider and face in their lives than this. When most of the country is shell shocked at the prices of everything and are just trying to survive, why would they pay attention to the back and forth on that FBI raid? It simply isn’t on the radar, I believe, of more than half of the country.
And that really was my point. Trying to exist, in my view, most likely takes first place in the concerns of America, not anything to do with this. Blessings to you, Dutchman.
I agree with this. For example: my wife hates politics and with so many things that are a total mess in our country, she doesn’t want to hear anything political that I say because she thinks it’s almost all negative. Even if our country goes away, she doesn’t want to spend her life being unhappy. If it all goes bad, she’ll worry about it then. There are likely many Americans who feel similarly.
Ditto.
Yes, there are… many.
Whatever we can do to keep our heads above the ugly churning waters that are engulfing this country and us, we are trying to do. Can we personally affect any of what is going on? Of course not.
Our personal battles with what has been shoveled over us take priority. Our families’ survival comes first. Thank you for your reply.
You skipped a very crucial step and classified materials is logged and given a ID number. The original is brought into accountability and ALL copies use the same ID with an additional “dash ID” affixed to denote COPY Number of the original.
YOU are flat wrong about time “sensitivity” of the majority of classified materials created and held by the government.
ALL classified materials (paper, digital or some other form of material) have to logged and accounted for via audit trails and report until declassified.
ALL classified material is covered by a Classified Security Guide of some sort, which governs creation, collateral, and disposition of ALL related materials.
There are numerous rules and regulations for handling materials.
Thank you for pointing this out. All classified documents, digital and paper, must be accounted for on, at least, an annual basis.
You skipped a very crucial step and classified materials is logged and given a ID number. The original is brought into accountability and ALL copies use the same ID with an additional “dash ID” affixed to denote COPY Number of the original.
YOU are flat wrong about time “sensitivity” of the majority of classified materials created and held by the government.
ALL classified materials (paper, digital or some other form of material) have to logged and accounted for via audit trails and report until declassified.
ALL classified material is covered by a Classified Security Guide of some sort, which governs creation, collateral, and disposition of ALL related materials.
There are numerous rules and regulations for handling materials.
My experience is that is an agency purview. Some places have tighter control than others. This I suspect is the responsibility of the WHCOS. As far as formal declassification, the “book answer” has changed with every new classification EO. Back in my day, lowly staff types would simply use OADR — Other Agency Determination Required” but since then my understanding is that went away.
Sure Bagpipes Barr was in on ‘advice and consent’ for this latest bloviation.
IMO Barr is just another crook from the Department of Just-Us.
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MoPar2020: Yup. Another crook, going way back.
His father Donald Barr was in the OSS during WWII. Bagpipes had a job at the CIA while in college. Donald Barr was headmaster at Dalton School was the one who inexplicably hired Jeffrey Epstein.
Another interesting connection re the Dalton School:
Our current Secretary of State Antony Blinken attended Dalton; his stepfather Samuel Pisar is thought to be the last person to speak with Robert Maxwell.
suejeanne: Upper East Side liberals/commies have been sending their offspring to Dalton since at least the 1950s.
Attorney General Bill Barr’s Criminal Coverup Background
https://newswithviews.com/attorney-general-bill-barrs-criminal-coverup-background/
Excellent article.
Barr will swing with his buddies.
Do you believe there is actually a judge out there who dislikes traitors even if they hate Trump? Catch and release.
I hope the Judge selected by Trump is a good one. He has a track record of choosing one disloyal and backstabbing lawyer after another. I don’t know if Kushner is giving him bad advice, or he just can’t tell a good lawyer from a bad one.
Also possible that lawyers start with best intentions, then get a visit from someone saying ‘nice life ya got here. Be a shame if something happened to it.” Lawfare isn’t about the case you can prove in court, it’s about using the process to abuse and neutralize your opponent. If you had a thriving law practice, kids or grandkids in $$$$ private schools, a spouse with expectations of maintaining a certain standard of living, vacation plans and expensive hobbies- would you want to risk it all?
Steve Miller Band sang a song about “Living In The USA” Our choices when confronted with bribery and then threats will continue to escalate. What each of our choices we make will determine the outcome.
As things get uglier, the enemy will tempt, or even threaten or torture us to rat on each other. Resist. Don’t give up a comrade to save one’s skin. Take the battle to the enemy. Final measure of devotion for freedom and liberty. Never forget.
Well said. The added complication in our day is that moral courage is ever harder to muster in a world in which the real, free-market portion of the economy is dwindling, giving way to the non-profit, woke portion of the economy, its mortal enemy.
During the economic growth years of the mid-eighties to the mid-nineties, there was an ever-expanding supply of new businesses and opportunities. In today’s world, if you’re lucky enough to be well situated in your employment, you will instinctively know that currently you could never replicate your current income by other, legal means. One also knows instinctively that striking out on your own is out of the question.
The reason for this is that woke incentives grind away nearly all free-market-enterprise incentives, and ultimately succeed in dissolving the latter. Free-market capitalism essentially deals with two-party agreements (a buyer and a seller). The woke, socialist economy deals with three-parties, i.e. buyers, sellers and the government, either by its approval or subsidy. This relationship is essentially parasitic and the parasite ultimately kills off the host. And so it goes in the business world, i.e the government thrives and survives as the business sector dies off.
The key event was the popularization of third party payor systems into healthcare; it was the fatal, socialistic innovation which ended up metathesizing to our entire economy because all systems of any sort work on the same principle: any elemental change within the system affects all portions of the system. Etc.
Socialism and capitalism simply cannot coexist indefinitely.
Dems used to love forcing Republicans to denounce social security and medicare as socialism. Of course, they never could bring themselves to denounce these programs. Nor can they nor should they denounce these programs at this very late stage in their destructiveness because that would be the political equivalent of taking a fentanyl pill.
However, these programs will ultimately be seen as the genesis of the fatal deterioration of the once mighty US economic system, and with its demise, the crumbling of the greatest country the world has ever known.
And this is almost foreordained. Traitors in and out of government now look to countries like Iran, China, or Venezuela for praise and inspiration, the corollary being that nothing could be worse than the US. Tell my how auspicious that is, please do!
Nov. 8 is our last stand. AND IT IS OUR VERY LAST STAND!
As an AUSA, he prosecuted one of the biggest Russian organized crime cases in NY history (Marat Balagula https://www.forumdaily.com/en/v-nyu-jorke-skonchalsya-otec-krestnoj-mafii-kem-byl-marat-balagula/ and Boris Nayfeld https://udf.name/english/news-subjects/165527-very-difficult-person-last-boss-of-old-russian-mafia-convicted-in-the-us.html). Presuming he is at all familiar with Glenn Simpson’s garbage congressional testimony about looking into Russia (because of Andrew Weismann and Loretta Lynch’s boy Felix Sater) and Mueller’s garbage report about Russia spending $100k on Trump’s election (in 2015, Nayfeld took $125k as payment for a hit; SDNY ultimately gifted him a 19 month sentence, and he served less for “good” behavior, for letting the victim pay him the $125k instead of killing him).
Even the Smushekevich brothers got more time than Nayfeld, and they never actively killed anyone, only stole a billion dollars from insurers, including federal, by setting up around 500 health care businesses. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-03-17-mn-12012-story.html
I am hoping the judge proves to be a good choice.
Because it is the FBI / DOJ is at the center of all this, the Biden Regime is able to keep all of these scandals (crimes) siloed, separate and at arm’s length. As such he can fight his opponents piecemeal. But as things progress they will all conflate and when everything collapses the only possible outcome will be for Biden / Harris to exit the stage. These scandals that they worked so hard to bury will never end with new revelations coming out for decades.
Part of what is at play here is that it is not just the FBI Gate but the stolen election which is unraveling and beginning to bite. In essence, Biden and the deep state is fighting a two or multi-front war and can no longer win on one front and then marshal all his forces to defeat the other. It is too late and and he and they are going to all go down in ruin.
Just remember, “for if it prospers, none dare call it treason”
…and they’ve already raked in trillions.
I’m not a lawyer and don’t even play one on TV; however, isn’t the FBI and DOJ essentially committing crimes of obstruction of justice, hiding of evidence, false accusation, slander through leaking to media, abuse of power, conspiracy, racketeering, warrant and now appeal perjury before the courts, and perhaps into sedition and treason?
Yes, but that’s now par for the course.
They’ve been doing it for years, but when Barr rolled over, played dead and then became part of the conspiracy himself, it was a signal that they can do as they please without compunction . . . and that’s EXACTLY what they’re doing. Our last line of defense is the courts and it’s about a 50/50 chance (or less) that we’ll get a truly unbiased judge these days.
The anti-American Left’s ‘Long March’ through our institutions has almost completely destroyed the legal profession.
The sedition and treason part came first. Everything else is a result of that.
All of the above. But they believe they can get away with it, and so far their track record gives them every reason to believe they can in fact get away with it.
But if Donald Trump becomes president again, their lawfare game ends, at least as it is being played inside the DOJ, the FBI, and the administrative state.
That’s why the administrative state, the Democrats, and their RINO fellow travelers are moving heaven and earth to steal the 2022 mid-terms; and to do whatever they think they have to do to keep President Trump from winning in 2024.
RINO fellow travelers ……travelers .Christ..😎
There’s no way to stop them while Dems have control of the House and Senate. That’s one reason why I’m telling people you must vote all-GOP on your ballots in November. The majorities are extremely important. The GOP cannot launch any investigations right now. Several of them have promised to do so if they get the majorities back. At least there’s a chance if the GOP has control, there’s zero chance if Dems have it.
We have heard such promises before, and they have ALWAYS amounted to pissing on our leg and telling us its raining.
Lindsey Grahams saying he will introduce legislation banning Abortion after 15 weeks, Nationwide is a recent example.
Read the article in todays AmericanThinker, that explains just what LG is doing, as an EXAMPLE of what Bidens “mainstream Republicans” do to us, every time.
There is NOTHING substantive that MAINSTREAM Republicans will do, over the next 2 years, if they gain a majority.
NOTHING but kabuki theater, like Goudy’s hearings during the 2010-2012 period when they had majority status.
A majority senate will block radical appointees and judges and any more budget reconciliations that promote green nonsense
Look at the damage Senate GOP Leader Lott, Speaker CFR Traitor Newt Gingrich and his wingman CFR President Clinton did during his treasonous and criminal time much of it with GOP majorities.
Hegelian Dialectics: CFR Democrat Clinton & CFR Republican Gingrich, Frenemies. A game of charades for the gullible majority of American voters.
Too cute,… Newt forced Clinton to agree to the first Reform of Well Fare in about 40 years, for the first time. Newt’s “Contract With America” stopped the Clintons and won the Houswe for the 1st time in 50 years.
Now inform us what else he did as a traitor,… for which he was outed as Speaker in ’98 by Dim sponsored faux scandals.
(Full disclosure, Newt was my History Prof at Tulane in ’70 where he earned his PHD in history, so yeah, I am biased, but also, Correct.)
You got something real, say it and document it, otherwise, I smell a troll.
Uniparty has control. What Happened the Last Time Republicans Had a Majority? Fix 2020
Look at the damage that Lott & Gingrich did when they controlled the House & Senate under one of the most criminal/treasonous presidencies America ever had, the Bill CLinton Rise of China, America’s deconstruction years
I still feel it was better that the Obama era.
Specifics, troll!
I hadn’t really thought of it in this way. Even if you hate the Republlican that’s on the ticket, say like Murkowski, by having just one more Republican senator than the Dems do, you at least have the majority. Your strategy is brilliant. If we come across anyone who says they’ll never vote for a RINO again, they should be made aware of this reasoning.
I always say get rid of the RINOs during the primaries, and get rid of the Dems during the general elections.
In the history of our nation, No person has posessed the ability to draw the corrupt out from their cover like Donald John Trump has. It is an amazing thing to watch.
He has exposed what others have been trying to expose for decades. A hegelian dialectal fake right vs left or us vs them, divide and conquer strategy. The traitors/criminals to the Constitution are acting out of fear against PDJT & MAGA. This is not behavior of arrogance, this is behavior based on fear. Treepers do not lose sight of that.
And for this, above all else, we owe him our deepest gratitude. If only the press were not part of the problem. This crap would have been done and over with long ago.
Correct, if we had an honest press this whole criminal cabal would be exposed and done with.
If we had a genuine Republican party, honestly pursueing our policies, they never would have allowed the American media markets to be dominated by 5 megacorporations.
The ‘mainstream Republicans’ Biden praises, are the source of everything.
Take them DOWN, and the whole edifice crumbles.
All else is distraction, laser pointers, gaslighting, kabuki theater or wasted effort.
Huh…………not if you are a logical thinker, with common sense.
Yet another unconfirmed quote: https://quoteinvestigator.com/2022/08/17/media-mind/
I learned this maxium attributed to others when I took Mass Communications at Tulane in ’68, 1 year before the attribute to Jim, which is now in dispute, who died of too many drugs in ’71.
Enough said. Morrision: “Oh show me the way to the next whiskey bar,… oh don’t ask why”!
Do you believe that Trump made the correct decision to join the Republican Party? Or do you think it may have been the time to start a new party and get rid of all the RINO’s at the same time?
Consider also that we, maybe 40% of the country, don’t even pay attention to that media, and if our media was fair, the other 60% might finally see the light.
Never say we were not warned. JFK spelled it out/
infiltration rather than invasion. Now our eyes
are wide open thanks to PDJT /every facet of our
country is corrupt. “HE CAUGHT THEM ALL.”
PDJT is a VERY, (f-ing – excuse me) STABLE GENIUS.
One of President Trump’s best – below.
https://globalnews.ca/video/5981593/donald-trump-im-a-very-stable-genius-who-always-chooses-his-words
WOW – they blocked this video.
He hammered global news – so
I am not shocked, but it was excellent.
Worked for me. Great clip.
Worked for me too and I am in Canada. Love your President DJT!!
I was able to access it. 👍
Justine Trudope Castro’s Network. Bastards. CBC and the rest. Excellent job PDJT. God Bless you!!
In essence, the DOJ is saying we are above the law and the courts. We can ignore the court ruling and insist that the court system do what we tell them to do. I still am laughing at the line that Judge Cannon put in the motion denial:
“It is also true, of course, that evenhanded procedure does not demand unquestioning trust in the determinations of the Department of Justice.”
“Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall”
Proverbs 16:18
They are also saying they are above the presidency, which is ridiculous when you think about it.
Right in the DO Injustice nads.
Judge Raymond Dearie was one of the FISA judges who signed the warrant to spy on Carter Page without cause. And Carter Page was a government agent. This means all the FISA Court rulings on Russia were tainted (illegal) from the beginning, and you’re looking at one of the judges directly involved.
Everything associated with the search warrant was nonsense, including the informants (Chris Steele, Igor Danchenko, Charles Dolan) who provided the DOJ with evidence (fabricated information) to take to the judge. That’s why it is all falling apart in closer examination. Everyone in the DOJ and FBI knew the evidence justifying the search warrant was nonsense, but they needed the warrant to cover for their prior unlawful conduct.
However, the target of that warrant, the former useful CIA, FBI and DOJ informant who was valuable to the DOJ in prior legal cases, is angry. Carter Page is righteously angry at the FBI and DOJ for lying to a judge (FISA Court) to get a search warrant against him and everyone he talked to and communicated with. So Carter Page has been filing civil lawsuits against the participants hoping to hold them accountable.
I think Page may be feigning indignation so as not to completely blow his cover.
Judge Dearie may not have known Carter was a plant when he signed the FISA warrant, but he sure as hell now knows he was lied to . . . Let’s hope he undertakes this task with that in mind.
I agree. Carter Page is a creature of the CIA, and as such they maneuver him as they wish. All these Carter Page suits, where are they? He boasts he’ll file them – then crickets. My spidey senses has always felt this way.
Special Ops versus Special Forces
Do I understand this correctly.?
The warrants referenced above with Judge Raymond Dearie as the Master were intended to cover for the Crossfire Hurricane operation starting in Part 1 – July 31st, 2016. Allowing an already tainted warrants and the operation to be further revealed would set Rome ablaze.
Part 1 – July 31st, 2016
Patel make it clear that Andrew McCabe and Peter Strzok knew — before Crossfire Hurricane was opened in July 31st, 2016— that the Trump-Russia story was full of lies paid for by the DNC and Hillary’s campaign.
Peter Strzok wrote the July 31st, 2016, “Electronic Communication” that originated FBI operation “Crossfire Hurricane.” Strzok immediately used that EC to travel to London to debrief allied intelligence officials.
Part 1.1 – July 2016
John Brennan warning President Obama in July 2016 that the Clinton campaign was effectively fabricating a Russia-Trump conspiracy theory.
Part 2 – October 2016
Danchenko was Christopher Steele’s primary source for information he put into his “dossier”. The DOJ-NSD and FBI used the Steele Dossier in lieu of a valid ‘wood’s file’ to support the FISA surveillance and search warrant application against Carter Page. The title-1 warrant gave the DOJ-NSD and FBI the ability to conduct surveillance over Donald Trump as a candidate and as a President. The warrant was issued in October 2016 and renewed thrice in 2017 (Jan, April, June).
Part 3 – October 2016
President Barack Obama speaks alongside Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh Johnson (R) following the Presidential Daily Briefing in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington, DC, October 7, 2016.
President Barack Obama approved a statement by the U.S. intelligence community in October 2016 accusing Russia of stealing emails from the Democratic National Committee (DNC), despite the U.S. government not having obtained the DNC server images crucial to ascertaining whether Moscow was involved in the theft.
Part 4 – October 2016
That FISA warrant application, which was granted in October 2016 and thus allowed FBI surveillance against Page. Note: Carter Page worked for the FBI as a confidential informant.
Part 5 – January 2017
According to his attorneys, Danchenko told the FBI that the entire Steele Dossier was a hoax back in January 2017.
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Part 6 – June, July 2017
In June and July 2017, Strzok worked on Robert Mueller’s Special Counsel investigation. Note: assumption, whatever Strzok knew, Mueller knew at this point
Part 7 – June 15, 2017
From the latest court filing by Special Counsel John Durham, we learn that Robert Mueller’s FBI investigators interviewed Christopher Steele’s primary source, Igor Danchenko, on June 15, 2017.
Note: It seems both Igor Danchenko and Peter Strzok had the same objective.
The FBI knows the information is crap, yet the FBI still used the dossier to get the first renewal of the FISA warrant (January 2017). The original application (Oct. ’16) and the first renewal (Jan. ’17) are word-for-word and page-for-page identical. The FBI and DOJ added nothing; they simply re-filed the exact same documents for the warrant renewal.
Carter Page’s lawsuit was tossed by the judge a couple of weeks ago. She said that he couldn’t sue the FBI brass because they didn’t do the actual surveillance.
He probably can’t sue the lower levels because they were performing their job duties.
To the FISC judges, Page looked shady as heck. I can’t blame any of them for signing the warrants. Of course the FBI failed to tell them that Page was a source.
Why did Page continue to keep in contact with the Trump campaign after news that he was being investigated was published? He resigned from the campaign but kept in contact with him, and via two hops that meant everyone he talked to and everyone those people talked to were also surveilled. That included Trump himself.
And why did Page visit Stefan Halper at Halper’s property in VA?
I am not presuming that the FISA on Carter Page was the only one the Steele “dossier” was used to get an FBI target. Most of Steele’s subjects were entities the feds wanted to surveil, and the dossier was a pretext (probably for quid pro quo to Clinton’s campaign). They wanted Paul Manafort, too, after several years of trying, and the same friendly press entities were including him in articles, and we now know planted articles are considered “sources” by the FISC: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2016/08/10/another-trump-adviser-with-deep-ties-to-russia/?msclkid=d4d05b21c38411ec9fcffa72959054fe (08/10/2016, includes Page and Manafort); https://amgreatness.com/2018/08/16/the-weekly-standards-ties-to-fusion-gps/ (AMgreatness link because Weekly Standard site is no longer available, includes Manafort, Page, Mike Flynn and George Papadopoulos).
The feds had a wish list and Steele and Simpson were happy to help with targeting by adding useful false allegations, while testifying that it was entirely campaign-related for ads.
So how many millions does all of this cost the tax payers? All this just to try to keep Trump off the ballot in 2024. Our federal government is disgusting right now.
Indeed. Persecuting PT has been cash cow for these folks for years, besides a fervent vendetta and also the Dem base demand an ongoing crusade against him at all times.
It’s an economy all its own, primarily enriching the already rich. Impressive.
I wonder if the Alinskyites running this Thugocracy will dispatch their mobs of misfit morons to protest at Judge Cannon or Dearie’s house?
Alinsky works two ways. As much as we despise him, taking some pages out of Alinsky’s book
wouldn’t kill us, and if you notice, it’s already happening in a big way.
The left used Alinsky – a communist pig himself – to push a communist agenda.
Now that the Alinskyites are in power, turnabout is fair play…. although the concept of ‘fairness’ is completely foreign to them.
Keep the pressure on
More psyops!
Seems to me,…
Buerocrats don’t take a dump, without having documented permission, its the nature of buerocracies.
Hence, I suspect concerns the DOJ might lose or alter documents are unrealistic.
There are official govt. documents, listing everything PDJT took.
It may be helpful to remember WHEN these documents were created and (I think) WHY.
302’s of interviews of all of the key ‘active participants’; the Ohrs, Rosie, McCabe, etc.
Multiple FBI interviews, for most all of them.
I think the actives pretty much told the truth of their involvement and actions, so as to avoid 1001 charge of lieing to the FBI.
In essence, this was an attempt to silo ALL of the incriminating evidence, behind “classified” and “pending ongoing investigation” walls,….SO IT WOULD NEVER SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY.
And, at the time they were doing this, they had every reason to believe it would never see the light of day.
2-3 years ago, they could not anticipate what has transpired, nor forsee that they were creating a trap for themselves.
And now they are stuck, with no way out.
As long as the 100 documents were classified there was a way for the Originals to be altered and a minor “technical oops committed”, when changes were not properly communicated for ALL copies.
Your inclination of “paperwork” is spot on and this has the potential to be the “dueling” FBI Form 302 scam on steroids. When classified documents are copied there is a record and likewise when there are changes of any sort there are records to document the fact, if for no other reason than to communicate to a person accessing the materials what they are touching or seeing. Each classified bit of material (original or copy) has an associated history that affixes to the base (original) ID Number of the Material (original and copies).
However, it would be very easy to game the system via minor violations so long as materials remained classified. President Trump declassifying materials removed the ability “game the system” for anything he declassified.
As stated before, the Special Master will review the History of each “classified” item, which means looking at more than the 100 items. There are logs, reports, authorizations to copy, transmittal letters, records, et al and the special Master can even demand the to see the original as part of the investigation of the History.
is it possible to modify the originals and replace all the copies with the modified documents? I’m sure you see why I’m asking. It would be a huge risk, but I’m curious if it is even possible.
You misspelled burrocrats.
Maybe we should assume that the FBI destroyed some of their documents and scrubbed the system to made those equities disappear. To finish covering their tracks, they need to destroy any other copy they can find. They have to worry about what is revealed in the documents and the appearance that they have been destroying evidence.
Is that too far off?
I was thinking along the same lines, the question about the possibilities of disappearing things out of the system has arisen several times on different occasions, and the answer from those with experience has always been, no it cannot be done.
I hope they’re right about that because the level of bad behavior in the institutions has gone to levels one could have in the past only expected in fiction.
generally in FOIA requests, when the government is asked to look in backup, off-site records, they refuse. I’ve always believed this is because the government used the search items to identify what may be harmful and embarassing to the government agency, to destroy it. But the records are still in the backup data, which is harder to immediately destroy, so they refuse to search it.
Eventually, the locally destroye records are removed from off-site backup, as they are copied over, IMHO.
Judge Dearie already made a request due Monday for both parties.
https://americanwirenews.com/mar-a-lago-raid-special-master-makes-first-moves/?
Screw the DOJ!
They have destroyed enough of this country!
Awesome analysis and explanation! Thank you!
Trump attorney who was former DOJ official questions department’s appeal of special master
https://www-foxnews-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.foxnews.com/media/trump-attorney-former-doj-official-questions-department-appeal-special-master.amp?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16634261489594&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fmedia%2Ftrump-attorney-former-doj-official-questions-department-appeal-special-master
How can the use of a special master be questioned when POTUS or even FPOTUS is involved. The whole thing is ridiculous.
And now we have a precedent
What’s interesting to me is if the DOJ wins, and Trump appeals, then it goes to Thomas, who may be the last person left in the country with the will and authority to stop this madness.
Is that why President Trump moved from NY to Florida?
That may play a part, but the weather, the Republican governor, the continuous witch hunt cases in NY would also play a part.
And he already owned Mar-a-Lago which had a private residence for the Trumps when they were in Miami and plenty of privacy for DJT, Melania, and Barron to lounge and socialize, so it was an easy move. Plus Ivanka and Jared had moved to Miami too.
“The bottom line is they really don’t want any outside party making a determination as to the status of the 100 “classified documents,” and/or consider if President Trump had previously declassified them.”
Indeed cause how can you make up lies, then leak the lies to the press, if someone else has seen and carefully goes through the documents? That’s why PT called for a special master right off… to break that closed loop.( Meanwhile I’m waiting for the left to call the term “special master ” racist , just as they deemed” master suite ” racist 😂
If any of the so-secret records are released, the public will be able to see what the DOJ/FBI believe is so incredibly damaging to our ‘national security’. The document content would, IMHO, be underwhelming, and would have no adverse effect except to embarass and/or incriminate our government employees and perhaps the british and australians for example in the FISA lies.
Funny how the DOJ/FBI want Sheeple to believe that each and every one of them is totally virtuous, the only ones that can keep a secret, and no employee could ever be corrupt.
What kind of fantasy world is that ?
The same people who think appeasing Iran is a great strategy are the sheeple who believe it.
How far the democrats, who used to hate authorative governments, have been duped. Democrat Marxists cleverly shifted the hate of government to the enemy of white supremecy.
I’m surprised they haven’t yet
I guess we will find out if the appellate judge is crooked or not.
I think their plan is to indict PDJT before Durham closes shop to prevent PDJT from releasing them.
The Special master probably confirming they are declassified and returning them to PDJT is a problem for them.
Cannons ruling slows down their indictment.
Durham gives the government an excuse not to release documents (ongoing investigation) but what law says a party involved can not release unclassified documents…
Durham’s grand jury’s term has expired. Sounds like the investigation may be over.
Trial starts October 11
Danchenko
Correct. Folks forget that Darchenko was indicted by BULL Durham’s work.
Plus, do not be surprised if BULL Durham’s report includes referrals for a few more patsy’s “in-waiting” for AG Garland’s gang to use as needed.
He has announced it is ‘winding down’ and they are writing their report.
Hard to see how releasing info could ‘interfere with’ or ‘obstruct’ an investigation that is at that stage.
And yes, if the SM rules in PDJT’s favor, it likely destroys the narrative that they have an ongoing invrstigation against PDJT for mishandling classified info, if the SM finds its not classified.
Undermines an ‘ongoing investigation’ for criminal possesion of Govt docs, if SM finds they are his personal documents.
Dearie COULD; Authenticate the Docs, simply by his findings negate any allegations of Russian disinfo.
Confirm PROVENANCE, confirming they are DEclassified, and PDJT’S property.
Focus a lot of public attention on the Docs, so the story can’t be memoryholed.
And, pre-emptively destroy any narrative of an “ongoing criminal investigation” of PDJT for espionage act violation, or their lame attempt to criminalise a dispute between PDJT and the archivist, which they were hoping could take the place of the Durham “ongoing investigation” which was takeing thecplace of the Mueller investigation.
Even if they pursue an “ongoing investigation” of PDJT for “election interference”, these documents don’t relate, so they can’t block their release on grounds of Obstruction.
The Special Master’s review can probably continue no matter if the documents are part of the Darchenko prosecution or any other Prosecutions BULL Durham recommends in his report to AG Garland.
The Government may even be forced to concede materials belong to President Trump and President Trump can keep them.
It appears the DoJ’s hill to die on will end being a hill called “No RELEASE”.
It appears it’s over but there hasn’t been any official announcement.
I heard he is able to call up another grand jury if he wants/needs to.
The title to this blog spot is a little misleading. The FBI did not say the “DOJ does not want classified documents reviewed”. The DOJ says they do not want the documentation bearing the label “classified” reviewed.
To me this is a clear tell they know Trump declassified the documentation. Just because something is labeled classified does not mean that it is classified especially if the commander in chief says it is declassified.
In filing any brief with the Court, the lawyers affirm under pains and penalties of perjury, that everything in the document is “true and correct, to the best of my knowledge”.
To include false or misleading evidence is basically PERJURY.
NOT that they don’t lie, as we have seen with CP warrant, etc.
Still FISA warrants NORMALLY never see the light of day, these court filings, in this case are under a microscope.
Hence, as you point out they do not allege, in their filings, that the docs ARE Classified, only that they have classified markings.
Its a TELL, all right.
Not only did President Trump declassify materials but the way this is unfolding … President Trump and his Team properly executed and documented the process followed per the law.
At most the its likely left with minor correctable “marking” mistakes on demonstrably unclassified documents and a question of repeatability to the Public.
Probably already shown them all to their favorite inbred contact in Fake News
so the crosseyed freak can leak only what may seem harmful to TRUMP NATION.
been waiting for a leak that the near albino freak has monkey pox but claims he has Haitian ancestry
I do love the circular logic that encases their appeal, the search was ‘court-authorized’ and therefore Trump has no right to a SM, part of whose job would be to make sure that the court authorisation was legally valid.
I agree. They assumed, then argued on that assumption.
It seems to me that if Trump could prove they were declassified he wouldn’t have to file a lawsuit to show his lawyers or anyone else. The Durham investigation is also almost over.
Part of the problem is that the left is so infected with TDS they don’t even recognize Trump as ever being president or having had presidential powers. They’re in a near psychotic infantile temper tantrum trying to make believe he never happened … which is the same way they’re dealing with their stolen election…making believe it didn’t happen – and it ain’t working.
Freud would have a field day with these power hungry nut-jobs.
I don’t think the problem is the classified documents. Trump filed the lawsuit to get his personal and privileged documents back. He doesn’t want the DOJ to even be reading them, hence the Special Master intervention to separate them out and return them to Trump.
President Donald J. Trump (“Movant”), through his undersigned counsel, respectfully files
this Motion For Judicial Oversight And Additional Relief, which seeks an order that:
(a) appoints a Special Master;
(b) enjoins further review of seized materials by the Government until a Special Master is appointed;
(c) requires the Government to provide a more detailed Receipt for Property; and
(d) requires the Government to return any item seized that was not within the scope of the Search Warrant
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.618763/gov.uscourts.flsd.618763.1.0.pdf
IMO Durham isn’t going to save the day.
So let us assume the CIA planted documents at Mara Largo that were retrieved by a cross-dresser. That is some one who slides between the CIA and FBI for such purposes. The planted files make their way into the pool of documents retrieved and are set up to be part of the Justice Department`s efforts to indict Trump. One little problem the documents are so nuts an independent experienced Judge would catch this and raise a stink while a grand jury would not. Now if a special master finds this out the shit hits the fan. This is exactly what happened. Also Trump has copies of everything he took and an inventory list maintained. Popcorn time.
Is this the same DOJ that leaked a color photograph of those classified documents to the Washington Post? LOL.
top secret Time magazine covers, which if revealed to a FIAS Court judge with security clearance, would cause immediate and irreparable harm to our entire country !!!
Civil society precedes the state, both morally and historically. Society creates order and grants the state legitimacy.
If a ruler seeks absolute power, if he acts both as judge and participant in disputes, he puts himself in a state of war with his subjects and we have the right and the duty to kill such rulers and their servants. (John Locke)
Clearly , the so-called DOJ thinks it should be able to act as both as judge (jury and executioner) and participant in disputes.
This filthy corrupt government makes the Mafia look like innocent schoolgirls!
American’s that believe Government is Corrupt and not working in the best interests of its Citizens are now Domestic Terrorists?
DHS Head Mayorkas: “Radicalized’ Americans Who Believe ‘False Narratives’ Are the New Terror Threat!”
Last time I checked there is only true and false. 4.8 Million Illegal Aliens have poured into our country unchecked in the last 18 months of the illegitimate O’Biden administration! Our corrupt government has shut down our Energy Production/Independence and forced its citizens and businesses to suffer with skyrocketing prices for energy and all goods and services! These two facts, open borders and the sabotage of our energy independence is not a conspiracy theory or ‘misinformation’! Yet the global, political and corporate elites say we concerned American citizens are terrorists! I say ‘They’ are the Terrorists! https://www.blacklistednews.com/article/83463/dhs-head-mayorkas-radicalized-americans-who-believe-false-narratives-are-the-new-terror.html
He really was born in Cuba. Were no native-born available for the job? Other than getting his foot in the DHS door under Obama, I don’t see his qualifications to be in charge of homeland security. His first stint under Obama he specialized in DACA. He is much more about inviting the world into the homeland than defending it. That’s why he sees the natives as hostile to his purpose. Knew it was a mistake when they created the department, but it didn’t take long to–I’ll use the left’s favorite term here–weaponize it against us.
THANK YOU SUNDANCE.
THIS IS AGAIN ONE OF YOUR MOST IMPORTANT CRITICAL THINKING< FACTUAL BASED<WELL REASONED<PROPERLY FRAMED>CORROBORATED BY EXPERT SUBJECT MATTER SPECIALISTS (INFORMED< AUTHENTIC AND CURRENT AND ACTIVE ADVISORS.
Let it be very clear to anyone reading CTH (old guard treepers already know this, and you will soon learn it too:
the “one copy” argument was never a truth.
It was “peddled” by a secret police spy state, IN FRONT OF A FEDERAL JUDGE!.
think about that…let it sink in..fully.
soak that in and understand this is a long standing pattern of corruption within the DOJ and their SPECIFIC LEADERSHIP AND GOON SQUAD ATTORNEYS’ who make these false claims to THE COURTS.
this is a learning moment for many people interested in this subject…specifically how to measure the legitimacy of the DOJ.
Sundance IS SHOWING HIS WORK. THE TRUTH. THE LONG VIEW WITH EXPERT AUTHORITIES ADVISING HIS RESEARCH. AND OF COURSE, his own personal incredible focus and tenacity and unrelenting pursuit of a more informed society of Americans.
Compare this to an agency that has long (decades) perpetuated this notion that if you did nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide. More security is worth the measure of your liberties and freedoms.
This is THAT SAME AGENCY: the secret police spy state of America.
now this same agency of MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE REAL NAMES AND REAL LIVES…People who conduct these criminal actions. they want to HIDE ..
see how this works?
Agent FBI MAN: You have nothing to hide if you have done nothing wrong
ME: See, you just don’t get it. It’s not that I have not done anything wrong, I just don’t want you to see ANYTHING ABOUT ME. I DO NOT TRUST YOU> EVER. PERIOD. You have proven to represent the worst scenarios of a police surveillance state. I do not consent. It is MY NATURAL RIGHT, this privacy. You never had this right over me, no matter what the law may seem to mean to you about this matter. I don’t want you looking into my life. Ever. And if you are caught doing it, I will bring you to account and make sure that true justice is served. Those are my terms. period. There is no middle ground. Get a warrant. And SHOW YOUR WORK.
it’s just that simple.
There is “only one copy” was the most ridiculous argument and we understand what it really means:
desperation. confusion…the truth switch has been turned.
They are making fools of themselves pretending for the most ridiculous claims.
This judge WILL BE INFORMED ABOUT THE TRUTH OF THIS MATTER.
Calling Ric Grennell and John Ratcliffe….friends of the court.
do your thing.
God Bless America
Trump had asked that a Special Master categorize the documents (among other things), and Judge Cannon agreed.
But the DOJ wants to withhold certain documents they claim are classified, which is ridiculous because the Special Master is tasked with determining which documents are classified and which are not.
Ridiculous.
I think it is the fallacy of begging the question, a more specific form of circular reasoning.
Claim Y is true because x is true.
re: The documents are classified (Y) because the DOJ says they are (X)
So move along. nothing to see here. good grief.
Julie Kelly:
“Keep in mind the IC (led by John Brennan lackey Avril Haines) only announced an IC review THE SAME DAY Judge Cannon…
indicated she would consider Trump’s lawsuit seeking a special master. If national security threat was so dire, why’d they wait so long?”
Thread ….
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1571153544128131076.html
Obama is 3rd generation CIA. The company protects its own.
I hope Trump has copies of the copies hidden somewhere. 🙂 That’s what I would do. It would be easy to scan them and put them on a tiny flash drive and tuck it somewhere in Mar-a-Lago.
Running against Trump is more of a risk for DeSantis than peaking too soon, said a GOP strategist who was betting big on the Florida governor
https://www-businessinsider-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.businessinsider.com/ron-desantis-shouldnt-run-against-donald-trump-gop-operative-says-2022-8?amp=&_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16634429328017&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.businessinsider.com%2Fron-desantis-shouldnt-run-against-donald-trump-gop-operative-says-2022-8
Pompeo is not denying that he intends to run.
Another CIA guy.
In all ways, the DOJ acts like it would if it were trying to frame Donald Trump with a non-crime, and then not let anyone see that it was not a crime, by refusing to let details come to light. And every Democrat wants them to do exactly this.
The question, said Alice, is whom shall be the master….the President or the intelligence” community” bureaucrats.
Strangely, I don’t have any doubts that SCOTUS will keep the IC subservient to an elected President.
235 years – the Constitution still lives in some form for some people – Citizens and Patriots all
To have this on going attack on our country by purported Americans can not continue. Continuing to disparage POTUS 45, a true patriot, serves no legitimate purpose and is to obstruct justice. This furthering of an agenda whereby actors hide behind law is a poor script and repeats why our experiment is so vital to the Human Race.
It’s been clear the Biden Regime is a fraud,
“We have assembled the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of the United States“
There’s nothing low enough that they can’t do! They’re animals!
“Classified” should be about national, American security, not corrupt Democrat, socialist security.
When the FBI took the famous photo of classified folders as if they were found thrown on the floor, it was said that they had FBI cover sheets and not the White House cover sheets. I cannot tell the difference since I have never seen any cover sheets from government agencies. But if they did have FBI cover sheets, then they planted evidence.
The instant they spread out documents on the floor and took pictures they planted evidence. It is literally a fake photo for MEDIA consumption. Fake evidence and a fake photo.
Obstruction of Justice.
Manipulating legislatures screwed the constitution to hide their criminal “national secret security” crimes for years!! Only glaring incompetent criminal legislators with their insider trading pacs and tax free “money laundering” foundations. Now Biden spewing about Putin and dirty bombs. Obama Biden are evil thugs without shame
At this point the DOJ has no integrity left. The Obama’s and now the Biden’s crews have completely destroyed the fabric of an institution that was created at the founding of our constitutional government. It will take two or more political generations of integrity and honor to even begin to restore is shine. It is past time that sunshine be shown on this entire disgusting coup. It is time that people are held accountable. If it doesn’t happen, and the likelyhood is that it won’t, then there is no republic; there is no constitutional government, there is no liberty. We are quickly coming to a fork in the road, and we will have to choose.
The so-called Department of Justice was created July 1, 1870.
It was obvious that the judge knew an appeal would be filed, so she added three explanatory sections at the end of her Order obviously aimed at the Apellate Court.
Unfortunately for the government criminals, the judge’s order is exactly what the law calls for in a case like this. The Court should not and cannot “take their word for it.”
There must be thousands of “documents with classification markings,” and by definition a Special Master is entitled to review all of them. No, it is perfectly clear that there are VERY SPECIFIC documents that the government criminals want to bury … then use.
If Drearie was angry about the FISA he signed when Clinesmith was exposed, couldn’t he have initiated some sort of sanctions against the kid?
I always found it strange the FISC didn’t raise any hell
I’ve thought about this, and wonder if the FISA court has a similar “chain-of-command” as SCOTUS.
Why would Collyer write a report on FISA abuse?
If any judge on the court found Clinesmith manipulated what was presented to them, would that judge have to refer it to whatever chief of the court there is for action?
“The DOJ is requesting the 11th Circuit Court to intervene and “stay” or block a part of the ruling allowing the Special Master, Judge Raymond J Dearie, to review the “classified documents” and make an independent determination as to the validity of the DOJ-NSD claims.”
Pffft. Dearie should do exactly what they did when they seized everything from MAL. Full speed ahead on reviewing anything claimed “classified” immediately before any court ruling, then say there is no need for a ruling since Dearie already reviewed them.
Kyle Cheney
@kyledcheney
JUST IN: Appeals court sets a Tuesday deadline for Trump to respond to DOJ’s motion for partial stay of Judge Cannon’s order.
Cont…
Doj:
‘We stole those documents fair and square.’
“And Ain’t nobody gonna see’em now!”