Turkey as a member of NATO has always been a thorny and multi-layered geopolitical issue. In the latest chapter of the dynamic, Turkish President Recep Erdogan, a man with visions of his own grandiose importance as the leader of the next Ottoman empire, has said Sweden and Finland do not warrant entry into NATO because they have held positions adverse to the interests of Erdogan and the Muslim Brotherhood.
As the entry point from the middle east into Europe, Erdogan has long leveraged his gatekeeper status to create an oversized influence of power. When the EU formally declared the era of multiculturalism was failing 2012, and Islamic extremists were carrying out terrorism attacks all over the NATO alliance, Erdogan leveraged his ability to open the floodgates from Syria to gain additional financial benefits.
On one hand, when Turkey shot down a Russian fighter jet in northern Syria, Erdogan hid behind the skirt of NATO seeking protection from Russian retaliation. On the other hand, when the U.S. refused to give Turkey missile defense systems, Erdogan buried the hatchet with Putin and purchased Russian missile defense systems. President Erdogan plays all sides in advancing his interests.
In the latest development, what Joe Manchin is to the leftist agenda of Joe Biden, Erdogan is playing that role toward the globalist agenda of NATO. The big picture behind Erdogan’s priorities is always connected to the agenda of the Brotherhood.
ISTANBUL (Reuters) -Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan said on Monday that Swedish and Finnish delegations should not bother coming to Ankara to convince it to approve their NATO bid.
Sweden’s government has formally decided to apply for NATO membership, Prime Minister Magdalena Andersson said on Monday, a day after Finnish President Sauli Niinisto confirmed that Helsinki will also apply for membership.
Turkey surprised its NATO allies last week by saying it would not view their applications positively, mainly citing their history of hosting members of groups Ankara deems terrorists.
In a news conference on Monday, Erdogan repeated that Turkey would not approve their bids to join NATO, calling Sweden a “hatchery” for terrorist organisations, and adding it had terrorists in its parliament.
[…] NATO and the United States said they were confident Turkey would not hold up membership of Finland and Sweden.
Diplomats said Erdogan would be under pressure to yield as Finland and Sweden would greatly strengthen NATO in the Baltic Sea.
Erdogan’s spokesman said on Saturday that Turkey has not shut the door to Sweden and Finland joining NATO but wants negotiations and a clampdown on what it sees as terrorist activities. (read more)
Recep Erdogan can see the global cleaving underway, and he will position himself to use the geopolitical agenda of the western alliance to build out his continued quest to recreate a new Ottoman empire. That’s his legacy agenda.
President Erdogan is sketchy and cunning…
Brother hood
Fund a mental
Trans formation
-just words?
Why there’s no working w/MB
Actually, for this issue we can thank Erdogen and Turkey for siding with Russia. Even the Prime Minister of Finland said they have no reason to fear Russia so why would we want to provoke them. Furthermore, the United States and NATO could certainly come to the assistance of Finland and Sweden should the need arise. It’s a win -win!
actualy, there is an on going prossecution of a christan parlementarian in Finland, and tha cow has done nothing about it
It is incredible how they have gone after that couple, a very sad and disturbing story.
IMO That’s because the MB are a bunch of infidels.
That’s why Joe Blow wants them in the US, and also because mullah Buraq wants them in the US.
without Turkey NATO has no access to Bosporus etc to encroach on Russia from the South
Ah, too bad./S
And without Turkey Russia has useless Black Sea bathtub.
The owners of Constantinople/Istanbul have always understood this dynamic. It was true during the Classical Period, the Middle Ages, the Colonial Era, both World Wars, and the Cold War. It is true today. It will be true a thousand years in the future.
Because of this, it will be interesting to see if the US advocates for a regime change in Turkey.
I have no doubt they are working in that now.
They already tried a few years ago.
The Obama team and the Muslim Brotherhood are allies. There is no way the “Biden Administration” removes Erdogan as long as Erdogan remains in the Brotherhood’s camp and has its support.
That is the fascinating dynamic at play: using NATO Erdogan can undermine the neo-con campaign against Russia, but the neo-cons cannot do much because they need his Muslim Brotherhood ties to continue shifting Middle Eastern power away from the Saudis and towards the Iranians. They also need him to keep the migration floodgates closed, at least temporarily, as they subject the European social system to Build Back Better stresses.
The West needs Erdogan to support their geo-political projects; Russia needs a friendly Turkish government to keep the Bosphorus open and as a potential veto vote within the NATO alliance.
AS well as access to it’s 455,000 strong military – the second largest NATO force behind the US.
Without Turkey, Russia has no exit out of the Black Sea as Turkey controls the straits. Turkey doesn’t want any Russian trouble in that body of water.
I hope he holds into his position for voting time.
Actually doing Sweden and Finland a favour here. EU/NATO is being held hostage by the US. A settlement should have been made in January. Its the US that didnt allow this to happen. THe US needs their wars, lots of defence contractors and crooked pols to feed. Plus its rare to switch Presidents in the middle of a war. Poppy Bush’s mistake was to end hostilities too early and before his reelection. Wining the war didnt carry over. W. Bush keep the war going, got reelected eventhough he was hated and his favorability was trash.
Kerry
….by a hanging chad.
Those chads are the reason that we are cursed with Dominion and Smartmatic today.
Ketchup Lurch says “You Rang ?”
The EU declined to work with a President Trump toward Global Peace and Stability when they had the opportunity. It wasn’t Politically correct so Both the E.U. and the U.S. are now under the same global leadership and are being parceled out piecemeal.
Exactly!
No EU without NATO. No NATO without US.
I agree he’s doing SWE and FIN a favor while looking out for himself.
When he thinks the utopia is weak enough he’s going to activate all those “refugees” that never assimilated and the real party is going to get started in Europe.
They’ve been asking for it for decades.
Sometimes you get what you ask for.
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If you look at the recent NATO moves, it’s becoming apparent NATO is emerging as a tool of the WEF. In fact, NATO seems to be morphing into the standing army of the EU courtesy of American taxpayers.
NATO and EU are allied with globalists.
BRIC–Brazil, Russia, India, China–and also South Africa, are nationalists.
Globalists, by their ID, want to take over the nationalist countries.
Note: I am not saying that China is a good guy, I just wrote that they are not in with the globalists.
France has blocked Turkey’s joining the EU. Turkey is just showing they can play this game as well.
This puts the onus on France. I’m sure they understand a quid pro quo is expected.
France is not the country we saved in WWII, nor is any other country in the EU, nor is Sweden or Finland. All are falling quickly now to Islam. Conquered one might say.
Erdogan will get what he wants.
Sweden has now admitted that the muslims have not inegrated well
As Gomer Pyle would say: SURPRISE! SURPRISE!
The Davos crowd has many cracks in their armor.
For once, they aren’t getting away w/their crap. They are the ones that need to be taken down.
If only we could bury a hatchet in those cracks.
A .50 BMG ought to be effective.
Agree with sketchy.
Geopolitics is COMPLICATED,..especially when it involves the WHOLE WORLD!
Like “Predictions are complicated, especially about the FUTURE!”
The Insane Idiots In Charge THINK they are “Masters” of Geopolitics, or Masters of the Universe, but the closest they come to being Masters of anything, is when they put the worm on the hook.
And even then, they need instruction, and F it up, every time.
There is a saying, ” There’s the way it ought to be and there’s the way it is”. Elites have a hard time understanding that.
A Polar perspective of NATO: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSelVlTX0AAnpkK?format=jpg
The worst part is that the people of the world want to live and let live and they won’t let us. The world would be a far better place w/out them. It gets old and it hasn’t changed since the dawn of time.
Biden especially. Gates’ book, “Duty,” cites his frustration with Biden’s arrogant attempts to commandeer the national security council, propose preposterous ideas, and misrepresent others’ positions to Obama. Fortunately, Obama was smart enough to get inputs directly from State and Defense and not via Joe.
A lot of fellow church going folks I know believe the Anti-Christ will arise out of Turkey. I don’t have a clue but it seems as good a place as any to speculate about.
On a side note, Hal Lindsey in The Late Great Planet Earth was certain that the EU Common Market would play a major role in the end times. What if he’s wrong and it’s NATO?
European Common Market has evolved into the EU, and there’s a good argument that the WEF now controls both the EU and NATO. The names have changed but the plan remains the same.
You’ve got it, R.
Micah 5.
The Obiden Junta is meeting right now to see if they can bribe Turkey. Anything that satisfy Erdogan would of course be harmful to the USA, so win/win!
“My pet.”
“My Precious”..
Look of the side by side photos of Sultan Erdogan compared to Gollum; the Turkish doctor who posted that famous meme was arrested and I think jailed!
Senator Oz might leak national secrets to Turkey….. calls himself a humanist but knows that would be killed if left islam officially…. just sayin’
We all know Ilhan Nur Omar sends classified stuff to Al-Shabaab via intermediaries in Minneapolistan…
Obama and his personal assistant V. Jarrett are all in with the MB – this won’t take long.
more pallets of cash ?
A trifecta of Islamists.
There is no downside to ignoring Turkey. What are they going to do? Make a decision?
Isn’t Erdogan bestest buddies with obama, this is a sham and a false move by the new world odor P/U
Are you kidding? There were two attempts to overthrow Erdogan during Obama’s tenure, by Soros and Gulen. Zero chance that Obama and the 4th estate did not support those coup d’etats.
The enemy within NATO
Ben Harnwell, episode 1860, discussed Turkey’s objection to acceptance of Finland and Sweden into NATO. Harnwell believes the generals in Brussels have set a trap for Putin. Some say “Ukraine was waltzed down the prime rose path and now Finland and Sweden have been lead down the primrose path” and Harnwell believes the generals in Brussels are working thru a plan, it’s not Ukraine, Sweden or Finland that were led down the primrose path, it was Russia because after the fall of the Soviet Union, NATO should have disbanded. NATO’s existence depends on fighting an enemy. Who voted these people in anyway?
Yeah, I think it was MacDougal who said the DOD has been telling administrations since 1994 that Russia would be forced to go to war to protect their borders because of the NATO expansion policy started by Clinton.
Eisenhower’s farewell speech warning of the Military Industrial Complex (MIL). Plus being in the CLUB, helps alot,who needs votes. An unelected bureaucracy is so much easier/s
I believe that Mr. Putin is too smart to fall prey to the globalists’ machinations.
The Deep State’s wishes turn out to be dreams only. Inside One Thousand
and One Nights there’s this folk tale of Ali Baba and the Forty
Thieves, where Erdogan, a late cousin, decided to step up. He doesn’t
want nukes on his doorstep, neither do the folk from Western Europe.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Russia has warned it will take action if Finland, with its long mutual border with Russia, is admitted into NATO. Turkey, for its own reasons, has put on the brakes. Rumor is that Russia saved Erdogan from an assassination attempt by a Western power several years ago, so there is that as well.
Turkey will let the ‘food shortage walkers’ enter Europe and end it once and for all.
Good news, everybody: Now we’ll be defending Somalia’s borders again, too!
No fan of Erd, or Turkey, but this time I like it. Finland and Sweden have no need, no business being involved in NATO, and if smacks Wimsey and Botox in the face I am all for it.
More and more people around the globe are catching on to what America is doing, and are hating it, the backlash isn’t going to be pretty. I can’t say it isn’t deserved. It is amazing how many foreigners know our players by name and who/what they are. I guess a political junkie is a political junkie no matter where you live.
I am so disgusted w/the whole thing that I am thrilled the Johnny Depp trial is back on. It is a refreshing change from all the dismal daily political reading. That Heard woman is some serious entertainment.
So, Sweden holds positions adverse to the interests of Erdogan and the Muslim Brotherhood? Well, I know some people that live there. Ever sense their fellow citizens opened the door to these travelers from the east their country has turned to shit. “Hoodlums” is the term used to describe these new arrivals. They travel and attack in small groups, taking advantage of the petty theft laws to only steal the minimum to avoid legal charges. Example: If the law doesn’t prosecute theft under say, $100, then the first hoodlum will rob you of $90, the second hoodlum takes $90, and so on until your wallet is cleaned out. Granted, these types of laws don’t work in the best interest of the law abiding citizen, but prior to the invasion the majority didn’t need to pay attention to laws as they’re a civilized society to begin with. People behave out of common courtesy because that’s their culture, not something government needs to tell them to do.
Yes. The PM has come out and said imigration has failed and points to the Muslim imigrants for the failure and the parallel societies.
Swedish Prime Minister Says Integration Has Failed After Migrant Riots – Regenbogenseele (wordpress.com)
Gee, the Muslims were bad for Sweden. That’s a shocker!
An example of the unintended consequences of the great reset utopian plan.
As a member of NATO, does Turkey have complete and unrestricted access to all NATO military intelligence? What are the implications of that?
That the adherents of the Religion of Pieces, will have many plans of NATO members. As opposed just the UniParty.
Waiting for the next coup in the former USA. NATO is history after that.
Hot take: NATO is more of threat to the United States than the Muslim Brotherhood.
The Muslim Brotherhood is not going to get us into a hot war with Russia.
Simple. Trade Turkey for Finland and Sweden
Well, well, well…
What strange bedfellows we conceive,
when first we practice to deceive.
Ya gotta live this world of petty despots in which we live.
Meh, I could care about Finland, Sweden, Turkey, the EU, NATO, Russia or Ukraine…
Distractions…
We have a war that needs to be fought here that no one will talk about it.
the theft of our elections
that will take a war to right…
That is indeed the only way to take the country back but there is no appetite, no will, no leadership, no organization, no nothing.
Hear Hear. That was my conversation today when someone brought up the Buffalo shooting. Once again, this shooting could have been prevented but, this time, it was NY authorities who let him slip through. So my response when the subject was brought up today was “why talk about what MSM wants us to talk about? Let’s talk about our corrupt government from whence it all begins.”
Yep, yet another known wolf!
You haven’t heard? The Russians did that shooting. iEarlGrey reported on it so it has to be true.
I’d trade Turkey for Sweden and Finland
Sweden and Finland in. Turkey out!
Muslims can be trusted, ask the dead Christian infidels…whoops, that I think may not be possible. As long as Erdogan works to hurt Israel any way he can, I won’ trust him farther than I can see him when prostrating five times a day facing a certain way so Allah loves him and not me.
Erdogan is again throwing a wrench into a mix where he wants (demands) his tribute. What that tribute might be is open to discussion until a final deal, if any, is made. But I don’t trust him, note the palace he built for his family…take a really close look at it and see how he “sold it” to his people. I sense a smart Russian may be hiding behind some curtains in that palace advising Erdogan…just sayin’ if time permits.
When Erdogan has stuffed himself at the NATO buffet, he will leave and join Russia and China. I distrust them All, but mostly I distrust the USSA democRat Bolsheviks, and especially their Quisling chicken shiat NWO Rino Enablers.
So how about a World Brawl? Seems likely.
So the dude has a Turkey First agenda? Holding out until his country’s interests are served? Whoa. Who’d-a-thought?
Still won’t solve their existential dependence on russian gas&oil. Don’t know how he’ll negotiate that one.
Yes, putting your country first…how unusual!
What if there was a patient and plotting leader who only cares about conquest to live religous zeal over apostates? To punish those they hate and to subjugate, would they send an army in wait? Would they be patient? You bet.
That’s Erdogan.
Moosies, you can’t trust any of them, the Koran tells you so. Or just look at the #of Moosies in Western countries, then look at the the # of Christian, Jews, or Buddhists in Mid Eastern countries, End of discussion.
Maybe before entering into an agreement with Turkey The Leaders of NATO should have studied Islamic Law in regards to contacts and treaties with unbelievers.
Thomas Jefferson had to study it in order to defeat the Barbary coast pirates as they would never honor an agreement.
Mike, they honored their contracts when they were weak, when strong they (The contracts) were nullified. Strong horse, weak horse.
Joe Biden is responsible for this entire mess, and I don’t care who is holding the puppet strings.
Every country needs to mind their own business.
Every time I hear a “knowledgeable” person speak poorly of Russia and Putin, I have to review the great sins of our own country! Currently, we have zero moral standing. There’s no light on the hill. There’s just a bunch of greedy American politicians handing out our money and expecting kickbacks. The whole thing wreaks.
We need to get rid of the globalists, that’s for ding dang sure. Their “world vision” is sick and wrong.
I miss Trump.
Russians vacation in Turkey a lot and a significant amount of trade. When the plane incident happened, Russians boycotted those areas. The local economies started declining rapidly as well as Turkish businesses trading with Russia.
He wants the Marxist Kurds(pkk, not ygp) and Gulenistas. The marxists have been bombing since the 1980s.
Funny. Gulen helped Erdogan get elected after Mayor, then ran to Pennsylvania when they fell out.
“Dr.” Oz would be quite the asset for Erdogan.
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He is named after Mehmet the Great who conquered Constantinople and massacred all the Byzantine Greek Christians inside and out the Hagia Sophia. His hordes gang raped noblemens’ daughters on the main altar.
Almost as bad as being the direct descendant of the largest slave owner in Jamaica.
Oh, so that is why so many are name Mehmet.
I gotta go with Erdogan on this. Neither of those two countries have any biz joining NATO. We have broken enough promises to Russia. Even flirting with the idea is by all accounts playing Russian Roulette with humanity……pun intended. These countries probably don’t even care about joining. Who knows, but more than likely they are being forced to by the Global Cabal just to stir it up. I don’t believe anyone would want a nuclear war. I never wanted to get in any fights that I did I assure you lol. But things escalate very quick. Once it becomes apparent to one side the fight is unavoidable best thing to do is hit first and hit hard. That’s very simple explanation I know but I don’t see how you can contain something like that. Seems to me when one goes off they all will. That is just common sense I would think. Putin has it (sense) and so does Xi but I am very skeptical many of these academics (think Justin Trudeau or Kamala Harris) have any idea what they are doing. And ditto for the people who groomed them. Putin, Lavrov, Medvedev have all said paraphrasing “It would be unthinkable, there will be no winners, only losers.” And that sounds about right.
And FYI, If I was Vlad as soon as thought these whacked out academics and soy boys in Brussels were going to false flag or use a tactical nuke ANYWHERE. The entire Western World and its population centers and military bases get to split 6000 nuclear warheads. I assume 50 to 100 would be aimed at the state of Florida alone. Again no winners unless you catch these decadent spoiled fools off guard, then perhaps. But that’s what I am thinking right now. I would not trust any of them.
“Academics” lolz
NATO should be dissolved.
Finland and Sweden are asking for trouble, and Turkey doesn’t belong in NATO to begin with.
I’m sure that JoBama will do the right thing.
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Spain was not allowed in NATO till 1982 because of Fascist Franco. I see no reason to have Erdogan in NATO. Give them a separate defense arrangement like Spain had.
Expanding NATO since the fall of the Soviet Union has served one purpose (other than money laundering). It’s the same reason the Globalists started a coup in the Ukraine in 2014 and installed the puppet regime (again other than money laundering). To wear down Putin in the eyes of the Russian people. If they could ever get him say as favorable as Joe Biden they could really grind hard to have him removed. Let’s face it, Globohomo doesn’t like Nationalists and it makes sense as to why.
This is not a surprise. Ergogan has cut deals with Russia for access to the Mediterranean.
He is the enemy within
I am not going to condemn Erdogan – he is Turkey First. Why isn’t the united states AMERICA first?
America first?
What are you – a RACIST?
/s or /s or whatever the symbol is!
Throw Turkey out of NATO.
“President Erdogan is sketchy and cunning…”
Kind of like his fellow Turk, you know who?
Oz is a vehicle to talk about COVID FRAUD and deception of the American People. PDJT needs the Family TV Doctor to cut through that Democrat Blind wall.
Maybe Oz can be that vehicle without even being a Senator.
“Yep,Yep,Yep”- Krieger- “Archer”
Post 1453, it has always been in Turkey’s interest to keep Europe weak and disunited. Nothing has changed. On both sides of the Atlantic, ignorance of history is a consistent feature of diplomacy.
Sweden is a “hatchery” of terror organizations all right… JIHADI ones!! Their country of 7 million big virtue-stupid women “feminists” and their scarf-wearing beta men-friends have already allowed almost 800,000 jihadis to suck up all their welfare and lead Europe in rapes and violence against innocent Swedes. Only 4% are employed after 5 years on the dole and have chased out the remaining Jews in Malmo and caused the creation of dozens of Jihadi no-go zones. 35 hand grenade attacks in 2019; unheard of in the rest of Europe. The libs refuse to see how they screwed up one of the most prosperous and safe countries in the world and still won’t vote for the commonsense anti-jihad parties.
What is future Sen (Rhino-PA) Mehmet the Great’s position on this? Barrette’s tweet about pedo’s and islam was right on!
I sincerly doubt he wants a “New Ottoman Empire”. That would mean an empire streaching from Iraq to Libya.
Given that Sweden/Finland should NOT be part of NATO, this is a good thing. Are Biden/Schumer/McConnell operating behind the scenes and bribing countries to join NATO?
He is just an antichrist in street clothes.
They knew Turkey would block membership for Finland and Sweden. The demonic hordes will now seek to see how much Tayyip Recep’s vote is worth.
“In a news conference on Monday, Erdogan repeated that Turkey would not approve their bids to join NATO, calling Sweden a “hatchery” for terrorist organisations, and adding it had terrorists in its parliament.”
– Erdogan is referring to the Kurds.