In a very late-night filing by Special Counsel John Durham {pdf HERE}, in the case against former Clinton lawyer Michael Sussmann, the special counsel gives the most detailed construct of the “joint venture” between the Clinton team and allies to fabricate a Russian Collusion Conspiracy Theory against Donald Trump in 2016.
As we have noted, Durham is focused on the people outside government who fabricated information and triggered years of false accusations against Donald Trump, which ultimately included the creation of a special counsel, Robert Mueller.
John Durham has not touched any of the players inside government within any of his filings, with the exception of former FBI legal counsel James “Jim” Baker, who is a witness and gave testimony for three days to a grand jury. Durham will not touch anyone inside government [fn¹].
Durham is focused on who, how and why they originated the Trump-Russia lies, and whether any laws were broken as they pushed those lies into government institutions which created four years of crisis for the government and former President Trump. Within this filing, Durham focuses on the “joint venture”, or what can be described as a conspiracy to manufacture and/or defraud the government.
I have tried to put clarity on the filing by outlining who/what the terms are. DETAILS:
As you can see, the filing speaks for itself in outlining the origination of the conspiracy. Durham continues….
{SOURCE DOCUMENTS}
These are essentially the players who fabricated the Trump-Russia narrative.
David Dagon (“Researcher-2”), a researcher tasked by Rodney Joffe to fabricate connections between Alfa Bank and Trump, was given immunity in exchange for his cooperation with the special counsel. Fusion GPS employee Laura Seago was also granted immunity from prosecution in exchange for her cooperation with the special counsel.
Suffice to say, Durham knows what they did and how they did it. Now, he needs to prove it by using the evidence the conspirators have among their own documents and discussions.
The current court battle is circling around various lawyers and groups saying they have attorney-client privileges in order to attempt to avoid document production and/or testimony that will put them in legal jeopardy. The Clinton Campaign is claiming communication with Fusion is privileged. Fusion is claiming communication with Perkins Coie is privileged. Perkins Coie is claiming they hired Fusion GPS for legal services, etc. etc. etc.
It takes much more time, but John Durham is working through each of the privilege claims in court, and so far, he has been successful in compelling compliance.
♦ A frequent question: Why didn’t Durham charge Rodney Joffe yet? It’s a good question, and the answer is likely because he’s building that case around something else. Here’s my suspicion.
You will remember, back in 2016, 2017 and 2018, when I said the Clinton team seem to have some kind of “direct portal” into government databases. There was some process clearly evident where the Clinton campaign itself had access to government databases.
We speculated about all kinds of contractors helping her, etc. This is entirely separate from what Fusion GPS and other participants were doing to data-mine information. This is not the people inside government connected to spygate (NSA, Fusion, etc), this is a portal specific to the Clinton campaign itself.
I always called this network the “Clinton Portal“, and the fingerprints from it just kept surfacing as the media described Trump-Russia connections, and then campaign officials would amplify. I’ve said that since mid 2016, and I retained that view throughout. Clinton’s campaign operation was data mining some government database, somehow. The question was who and how?
Rodney Joffe is the explanation that answers that question. Joffe exploiting contractor access to government databases (GA Tech via DARPA), in combination with his access to data from Neustar, gave him a unique position. Joffe was Clinton’s Portal.
My hunch is that Durham is holding back on Joffe because accessing government databases, via a government contract (DARPA) that was not given for that intent, is a bigger set of charges.
Creating intentional fraud is one aspect…. they are all busted. However, using federally contracted access to government databases to exploit information, then fraudulently manipulating that information for the expressed intent on defrauding the same government, is a much heavier charge.
And that’s exactly what Rodney Joffe did, on behalf of Hillary Clinton.
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fn¹ – No one in government will be touched. This entire article is talking about the people in/around the Clinton campaign. Only the Clinton campaign. Nothing else except the Clinton campaign. I rely on readers to be intelligent enough to see the subject and draw a distinction from Govt and Non Govt.
This article, the entirety of it as it is written, is focused on OUTSIDE government. JOHN DURHAM is only looking OUTSIDE GOVT.
If you want to discuss “INSIDE GOVT”, my position stands. Bill Barr was the Bondo, John Durham is the spray paint.
I won’t be happy until I see lots of Hillary Clinton in red ink and an orange jumpsuit!!! Lock Her Up!!!
Ditto & 100%
Actually, I’d much rather see Comey, Rod Rosenstein, Mueller, McCord, Weissman, McCabe, Stzrok and Paige indicted by Durham then Raggedy Ann Clinton at this point.
THAT will never happen.
You get the Clinton crew (and all around them), and only the Clinton crew from John Durham.
The icing on the cake, absent of the Kenyan himself, would be the Evil Hag with the blue dress staining husband rung up on a conspiracy charge. Hopefully, if it ever happens, she’ll get so spun up she vapor locks
I will take what I can get. If it is mostly subordinates or second stringers, just hit them very hard, because if people involved even at this level pay a serious price, it may discourage others in the future. Or at least make them think twice…
Exactly. Half a loaf is better than none, especially when the yeast is rotten.
damn
Seeing Marc Elias indicted would make me happy. As well as the witnessing the beginning of the demise of Lawfare.
When the Durham investigation started to get a bit of traction last summer, Elias left Perkins Coie and started his own firm. Why would a huge revenue producer-partner leave his own law firm? Two possibilities: first, Elias concluded he could keep more of that revenue stream for himself, which happens if the ‘crats can continue their low-life campaign tactics (which are exposed more and more each month). Second, Elias’ Perkins Coie partners concluded Elias represents a potential liability with which they’d prefer to disassociate and Elias’ revenue stream isn’t sustainable long-term. Methinks it’s a combination of the two.
Can’t we have some hope for a moment?
Agree they will never go to the top of the corruption as they need to protect the deep state agencies .
In the beginning, I doubted the Bondo Barr suggestion…my bad. I’m on board with the Spray Paint as that seems as clear as day.
One can hope, once this breaks, there will be enough MAGA in Congress, and VSGPOTUS to get to the rot on the INSIDE. That is a far bigger task.
Republicans are going to do this?? Puleeze! Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy? Puleeze!
Re MAGA in Congress: The Tooth Fairy seems like a better bet.
But we’ve known that since the 1970s at least.
She goes down, others go down
It’s like we learned in 2008 the quip “Too Big to Fail.” This is what you speak of I think. It’s what it really boils down to. We are going to see the same thing in the future with Covid and the vaccines I suspect. Guess that depends on the kill rate. If another variant gets cranking and it’s apparent it targets those who took the shot it’s a whole new ballgame. After 1 year (yeah it’s not been that long) there are clues this could happen. No too big to fail at that point; it’s Katey bar the door.
As for the Durham probe best temper our hope. Damn black pills lol. But the Universe owes us a win dammit. We are due!!
With regard to ALL those involved, I am SO far beyond “indictements”; I want a fair trial, followed by hangings.
And, if we are going to consider settleing, my priority is public, common knowledge of the second plot; “the Insurance plan” WITH common knowledge of not just the “actives” carrying it out (Mueller, Weismann, Comey, Stroxz, Rosey, etc) but those who concieved the plan, and gave it the green light; McConnell and Ryan.
If the MAGA base truely grasped that the ONLY way “the Insurance policy” makes ANY sense, is if McConnell and Ryan were IN on it, from the planning stages on, in 2015, they would DEMAND resignations of McConnell, Graham,..the whole decepticon crew.
Actually, they would be demanding their HEADS; it would finally break the stranglehold grip the Rinos have, both in Congress and in the party, since we called them “Rockefeller Republicans”.
Where’s The Punisher when you really need him?
Or The Equalizer, or Jack Reacher, or Bob Lee Swagger or ………
There must be a consequence for all of the bad actors.
Perhaps this is the door opening for something larger starting in 2023, once both the House and Senate (maybe) will be in GOP hands…
…not from Durham per de, but whoever follows him, and the investigations launched thereafter.
Yes, I understand but then Durham is no different than Comey, McCabe and Rod Rosenstein which isn’t a surprise to anyone.
Getting the Clintons, their crew is important; but, in the process, Durham is proving to all who are paying attention who the real government executives, managers, and policy makers are, and it ain’t the people we elect.
Margot Cleveland writes that the Federalist recently obtained an email exchange between DARPA and Georgia tech researcher-1 (Antonakakis) involved in the Sussman case, with the subject line “Mueller Case”. Durhams’ lead prosecutor essentially asked Antonakakis if DARPA was instructing them to research the origins of the DNC hacker (Guccifer). That’s the first direct mention of a link to the Mueller SC investigated by Durham that I’ve seen. As you have said, the ability to pin the hack of the DNC on Russia is key to the whole collusion story. If Antonakakis is indicted would it change your opinion?
https://thefederalist.com/2022/04/21/newly-obtained-emails-raise-questions-about-department-of-defense-involvement-in-spygate/
The punk on the right made it all possible and at the very least emboldened all parties involved to carry out the crimes with the notion they would all be protected from the legal consequences of their actions. Same way the putrid punk emboldened Big Tech and other multi national corporations to use their platforms to manipulate elections and American culture without fear of being held accountable for it. Fascism
Page to Strozck: “POTUS wants to know everything were doing”
Hello Durham!
I’m sure the little b@#tch on the right was crying in Michael’s arms the night of the 2016 election…and hopefully more nights since
They’re radioactive and will not be touched in our lifetime. But rest assured, God will not be so lenient.
As I posted elsewhere on this thread, it’s all in God’s hands. We must trust in Him and no one else regarding these Satanic scum.
I was raised in the Lutheran faith.
Your statement is well and good but ……. What about right now? What about the millions of people that have suffered the consequences of the past couple of years? Why? How is “it’s all in God’s hands” going to make those who suffered any better? Why do we have to suffer “waiting for God’s plan”?
I’m not being snarky, I really want to know. Why should any innocent person have to suffer because of evil deeds committed by someone else? It’s been over 2,000 years. Where’s the beef?
We’re hearing so much about the importance of “formative years” with the trans BS in elementary school…wish those who voted for this clown would wise up to the fact that he spent HIS formative years is an islamic, third world, authoritarian country that was no friend of the US and Americans. He is/was not “American,” but of course, always felt free to lecture us about “who we are” and when we were not “acting like” who we are…..
Now he’s doing it again, with his stupid “misinformation” speeches. He loooves to lecture Americans. Oh, if only he would go down. I’d die happy.
Why not include the punk on the right? He is outside the government—just like the Clintons are. Isn’t it time he was judged by the content of his character and not the color of his skin?
Don’t forget Mark Elias, Shifty Schiff, and Jamie Ruskin (I would have included Maxine Waters and fatty whatsis name but they are too stoopid to be involved in cooking up the conspiracy).
Totally agree!
All of the above would suit me.
the only way corrupt government actors will be dealt justice is by vigilante means.
Recall that in 2016 HRC had the deep state in pocket, but did not have the voters locked up.
In 2020 they corrected that problem with the drop box ballot stuffing solution.
Then after JB, they have even proved the chief doesn’t really NEED to be fully functional !!!
Now HRC can run with great confidence, even if ultimately needing to be propped up.
So, guess what is going to happen !!!!
McConnell, Thune, Graham, Piglosi, McCarthy, Cheney, et al. need added to that list….just because they have an R after their title does not excuse their participation
OMG! Yes, add them too. LOL
You and several others have been getting your comments held up in moderation lately…? None of you have been put on a list….so we’ve got a mismatch going on somewhere. 🙁
Think I just figured out the problem…..paws crossed……
Thanks!
Who do you think corrupted the FBI in the first place? My Money is on HRC.
The current iteration of the FBI started with GHW Bush and his AG Bill Barr.
They started the process to force out FBI Director William Sessions on ethics charges soon after Sessions started an investigation into allegedly corrupt DOJ officials misleading a federal judge in a bank fraud case involving a bank in (pre Gulf War) Iraq.
Clinton finally forced him out.
My reading shows the FBI was corrupted in 1919. A young Lawyer named Hoover was allowed to start illegally compiling blackmail information on high profile US Citizens.
Add Clapper and Brennan (even though none of them will pay the price for their corruption) just to keep the list complete.
AMEN, may it be as you say!
Well, it looks like the end result is to blame Hillary for everything so the government can claim everything was team Hillary and they duped everyone.
This is just government moving to protect itself, which is why Durham is allowed to continue.
Give us Barack!!
maybe Hillary will.
Oh, please.
^^^THIS^^^
It’d be fitting if the HillyBilly couple were the final Arkancide.
Mysterious booze cellar explosion.
Polonium poisoning so they can blame Russia.
Evidence not required to blame Russiya.
We’ll she is Typhoid Mary and a black widow spider all rolled up into one. It seems like anybody who gets involved with anything she does, soon regrets it.
After reading this, in addition to everything else Sundance has outlined in great detail over the past few years, I feel as if I need a bath.
Not gonna happen
Felonia von Pantsuit will never convicted of anything, sadly.
Then I suspect that you won’t be happy! I fully expect Clinton, Obama, Biden and all the rest of the criminals to get off scott free. No one has the testicular fortitude (or is spotless themselves) enough to do anything about the criminal cabal.
I’m wondering if Mark Elias and Jake Sullivan get scooped up as well. Elias maybe buy as Sundance said Sullivan right now is government and Durham has no intention of going there. The tractory seems ti be the Clinton Campaign had an inside guy and used him to create a fictional case against Trumpworld which was used to defraud the government.
Jake Sullivan’s wife has been asked to recluse herself because of her conflict of interest as she works in the Justice Department. No way he will face any consequences.
My favorite quote from this Durham filing is, “As the Government will demonstrate at trial, it was also the politically-laden and ethically-fraught nature of this project that gave Tech Executive-1 and the defendant a strong motive to conceal the origins of the Russian Bank-1 allegations and falsely portray them as the organic discoveries of concerned computer scientists.” To anyone with a long background in Russian/ Eurasian organized crime, the Steele dossier and Simpson’s testimony regarding it were total garbage. Expensive fiction, written to accomplish something they wanted/needed. Simpson’s senate testimony indicated he wanted information about Trump’s working with Felix Sater (for a non-plausible reason). Per the spreadsheet he turned over in the Alfa/Fridman lawsuit, Fusion GPS never bothered to contact Sater. They did hire Veracity Intelligence Investigations Research, which advertises “all investigations are conducted or reviewed by former federal agents.” (Former Feinstein staffer Daniel Jones is another of Simpson’s “lead investigators”). Glenn Simpson wrote multiple articles for the Wall Street Journal (2004-2006) about Alfa Bank being investigated, repeatedly, internationally. Simpson knew who the feds wanted, and they created an excuse for the feds to be able to go after them. I am not presuming that the most-contacted bank in the data was even Alfa Bank. Many of the persons mentioned in the “dossier” were subjects of Simpson’s articles in years past, and on 8/10/2016 Josh Rogin had started peddling the nonsense in the Washington Post (first mention I find of the Miss Universe trip, Carter Page and Paul Manafort).
They wanted the FBI file info on Trump from when Felix Sater was an informant, and were providing quid pro quo to get it. And they were, a la Harry Reid, hoping Trump’s tax records were in it as well as any other tidbits. What we have not been told, but seems likely, is that the former UK intel agent shopped his “dossier” all around 5 Eyes and NATO, not just in the US.
FWIW, Silvio Berlusconi was going to be re-eligible to run in Italy, was disliked by Matteo Renzi and reputedly had an “entertainer” dress as Barack Obama at one of his bunga bunga parties.
the corrupt government will never lock up one of their own. if there be justice, it may be done outside the “law” which is merely what whomever has power, be they good or evil, say is law.
Is Durham still spray paint? Patel says likely it could be otherwise. Where does this bottleneck into a result or no real result?
“Very late-night” spray paint.
Looks like the Obama crew is willing to sacrifice the Clinton’s. Question is, what can or what will Hillary do about it. She isn’t one to go quietly.
I don’t think it’s a sacrifice. This is a political lawfare execution to keep her from running again.
BINGO!
And not just Hillary.
Time to take out the Clinton machine as a force in Democrat politics. Has Chelsea ever considered a run for Congress?
Indeed it is!
Yeah, Hillary and now Biden. It will be funny and scary to see who/what they come up with for 2024.
That one is easy. It will be a black socialist candidate who is closely connected to the same political machine that put Obama in the White house. Just as Obama came out of political obscurity so will the 2024 candidate. The democrats will double down on the race card to get the votes of white moderates and liberals who fear worse than anything being branded a racist and young people who have been brainwashed into believing the national racial guilt complex.
a MTF “transgender”? Wouldn’t put it past them.
Harris in 2024 – one of Obama’s favorites.
Biden is well past his shelf life now. That rambling answer where he mixed mask mandates and Title 42 was too much. I will not be surprised if Biden were to come down with the Covid-2023-variant and retire/resign for health reasons – 50%+1 day into his term. While he’s convalescing from covid-2023, they can announce he has Alzheimer’s which would prevent him from having to testify about any and everything.
At her age and in her condition???? I don’t see her being able to run again…despite her always believing the US Presidence is her destiny.
Haha….FJB ran….sorta…
Like the old Soviet Politburo, they are not done until you take them out in a body bag.
Interesting.
I suspect Hilary has some interesting kompromat on Barack.
Durham might be cutting a deal with Joffe to roll up Clinton. Joffe probably doesn’t want to fall on his sword for her. Hope he gets protective custody. Ft Marcy park is dangerous whenever Hilary is mad. Just ask Vince foster.
I’ve asked the same question in private conversations. Both camps hate each other. This may be the catalyst for them to devour each other
We all may be focusing too much on Durham’s case, his charges, his targets and all the rest.
I mean, he could ‘do the whole enchilada’ with fifteen defendants and yet, the rightly chosen lawfare judge could make everything go ‘by-by!’
If nobody in Clinton world seems too nervous about this case, well, this is why.
I’ve already seen enough in our current judiciary that convinces me, beyond a reasonable doubt, that most of the lawfare judges are out-and-out political operatives.
For instance, Judge Sullivan (he of Mike Flynn infamy) would drag such a case on into three election cycles.
What a guy, what a country!
There was never any love between Hillary, Bill, and Obama & Company. They threw some fun zingers at each other during the 2008 campaign.
There is probably more resentment now than ever on Hillary’s part. She didn’t get 2016, as promised.
Let the games begin.
Cautiously optimistic.
Interesting you did not lead with your normal qualifier.
I will go ahead and put mine… if the “bad guys” are in control then John Durham does not need to exist to cover anything up. Since John Durham IS operational and does have a grand jury and does continue to layout an amazing case some of us “Q” folks are not looking all that crazy.
I hold out hope because the alternative is a lot worse.
The DOJ never put anyone in jail after 2008.
There were some SEC fines, and where did that money go?
Suspicious cat.
I hate having to make lengthy friggin explanations that take 600 words of an article just to set the backdrop. At this point I am hopeful that people KNOW the perspective.
No one in government will be touched. This entire article is talking about the people in/around the Clinton campaign. Only the Clinton campaign. Nothing else except the Clinton campaign.
I rely on readers to be intelligent enough to see the subject and draw a distinction from Govt and Non Govt.
This article, the entirety of it as it is written, is focused on OUTSIDE government.
JOHN DURHAM is only looking OUTSIDE GOVT.
If you want to discuss “INSIDE GOVT”, my position stands. Bill Barr was the Bondo, John Durham is the spray paint.
I appreciate the update.
Nobody else is providing this info.
Im still frustrated that the scope is outside the govt.
I guess we take what we can get.
Thanks again.
For now. Once this is a fraud exposed in court, that gives a pathway to the INSIDE.
Who knows, maybe some on the OUTSIDE find the need to rat on the INSIDERS, ie, the immunity granted to the 2 tech workers. It’s not uncommon for a crook to offer up bigger fish for leniency.
As a criminal trial sets the stage for civil action, exposing this fraud may set the stage for a special council to root out the rot in the Deep State….provided we have men and women in place with a set of balls.
Good Lord we need DJT back in office!!
I have this fantasy that an alien ship will criss-cross the country beaming down tens of thousands of DJT clones, appropriately trained and up to speed, sort of a Trump carpet bombing.
One isn’t going to be enough.
While I rather doubt Durham has such intentions, he is after all clearly committed to the spray paint role, it is my hope as well that the enormity of this crime, compartmentalized and studiously averting its gaze from government actors, somehow creates openings for exposure of government actors.
To distill all that transpired and put it all upon the Clinton Campaign to me seems too transparently disingenuous for non-neuronally challenged persons to ignore.
Then again, that’s what show trials and mysterious jailhouse suicides were created to address.
The Clinton Campaign–without Bribe Me-Granny.
You have a legitimate reason to be frustrated. I get it.
YOU are carrying a massive tranche of facts, so broad in scale, so dangerous is proportion….
I would just say…there are very few people who understand the GRAVITY of these criminal actions. You do. You have been very effective getting this data out there and the entire details of it.
Some people will just not understand all of it. And it’s not for caring either.
Sundance, you have an extraordinary skill.. It IS uncommon.
If I were ever to be in any position to provide advice it would be this:
YOU KNOW what you gifts are….and how they are best used …It does not matter that some may not understand the work and the truth that you furnish. Do not let this bother you. At ALL!.
God did not give you these gifts to frustrate you. Your gifts were blessed upon you so that you could make a difference.
And BROTHER, YOU HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE! And it matters.
God Bless America
Sad that most people won’t even HEAR about anything Durham is doing because of government -media collusion. If they did, there would be more of an uproar.
I bet this is why Clinton and the other treasonous government actors aren’t worried.
well said.
“No one in government will be touched.”
The institutions must be protected at all cost. It would destroy faith in government to do otherwise. People might come to think their own government was a criminal enterprise and we can’t have that.
My faith in government went out the window years ago, and it’s well founded.
Only a full enema in DC will revive my faith.
decades ago for me…..about the time RWR left office I realized the GOPe were just as much liars as the scoundrel Dim/commies
Think about Nixon, LBJ, Nam, riots, Kent State, Pentagon papers….
try trusting government again? right.
I guess that also means the hag won’t be touched either. Shucks!
People might come to think their own government was a criminal enterprise and we can’t have that.
That requires paying close attention which the vast majority don’t. Anything more complex that a sex scandal is beyond our idiocracy’s attention span.
“When the law no longer protects you from the corrupt, but protects the corrupt from you – you know your nation is doomed.” – Ayn Rand
The red texted details make the unreadable filing crystal clear. Thanks, Sundance. I wonder if the judge is provided such crib notes.
In other words, there are ‘some’ that are “untouchable”.
The snake, somewhere, has a head that needs to be dealt with, even though the by-lines could be one of 3 choices:
1.-I don’t recall
2-I did not intend to…(fill in the blank)
3-What difference does it make?
Got it!
The head of the snake is McConnell.
The operation Durham is ignoring, the parallel operation, begun soon after the escalator ride, “the Insurance policy” to “Watergate” PDJT, could only have been concieved, planned and carried out with McConnell and Ryan, and frankly Ryan is the Junior partner.
Without them GUARANTEEING A) the House would “flip” to the Dems, in the 2018 midterms and B) any Congressional investigations or hearings would be stonewalled, there is NO WAY experienced swamp creatures like Comey, etc. would engage in treason.
The actives, being in the top levels of the FBI and DOJ, could protect themselves from LEGAL exposure, but only McConnell and Ryan could guarantee any investigations (Nunes) would be stonewalled.
And, ONLY Ryan could guarantee the House would flip, and no way a Republican controlled House could have been seen to be rigging the system the way Nanzi did, in order to generate articles of Impeachment against PDJT.
And without that, the whole plot is a pointless excercise.
LOL, McConnell WISHES he were the general….at best he is a lieutenant….it goes MUCH higher than he
Bingo.
I keep thinking about 2016 Candidate Trump talking about “take out the lumps” and “Set the table”
Trump understood People need to be brought along not dumped in a over loaded hard to understand pile of information and truths to wade through
RICO cases take a long time to put together because there are multiple layers to them. it is possible, although not likely , that Durham is working one layer of this humongous conspiracy at a time. It’s hard for me to believe that he could hang anyone on the clinton side of things with out exposing the government swamp side of things.
Hence his cautious approach.
To ignore the “connected” crimes commitment by those INSIDE government IMO is a crime itself to democracy and the rule of law.
Time to call it what it truly is.
Bondo or Crime – You Choose!
Wasn’t Nellie Orr outside government just being a contractor hire? Does she get a pass on what she did? Just wondering?
But her DOJ husband was her contact, hard to protect him while snaring her.
Lots of passes will be issued to avoid highlighting such connections.
Bingo!
Is it productive to focus on past government corruption? We have a compromised judiciary that will never play it straight. Beyond examining the strategies used to tear apart our government — with the hope of developing a counter strategy — what purpose does it serve to obsessively analyze what is essentially history? We need to work at organizing and mobilizing ourselves to fight current acts of aggression, namely stopping the regime from stealing the upcoming election.
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Okay, so who does Durham get his orders from? The same people who Barr got his orders from?
Don’t put unwarranted pressure on our host. Also, no one here is interested in Q.
Wyoming —- are you related to Cheney? Vote for her?
Q is some love-sick spook toiling away for table scraps in John Brennan’s kink-dungeon.
Remember how Cuck Schemer and Savannah Guthrie bizarrely kept trying to inject Q into the conversation? It’s a fictional straw-man White Supremacist invented by 17 Intelligence Agencies to hang around Donald Trump’s neck and beat like a dog.
It’s pure fiction. And it glows.
If he were real, he would already be in D.C’s Black Rendition site with the other runaway slaves.
If he were real, he would already be in D.C’s Black Rendition site with the other runaway slaves.
That is the funniest part of Q and the foolish legions that knelt at his alter, if he were real he would have been sniffed out and snuffed out. If any part of what Q-ball avowed were true, the battle between dark and light within the government, he would have been taken out. There are no secrets in government.
Durham was confirmed by McConnell.
McConnell is the “Big cheese” who originated “the Insurance policy” plan to drive PDJT from office by “Watergating” him.
McConnel would not confirm an AG (Barr) or a Special Prosecutor (Durham) unless he KNEW they would bondo and spray paint over his attempted (and failed) coup attempt.
As treason IS a hanging offence, McConnell isn’t going to appoint the hangman, for his own demise.
McConnell is still just following the orders he is given…..his initial orders come from the CCP but there are others
yup.
Hey Tapper! Hey Sciutto! Hey Maddow and the fool O’Donnell! Are the walls closing in? What do your reliable sources tell you?
Oh wait. Bill Barr hand-picked John Durham so he’s discredited. And besides, there’s breaking news that Zelensky had a normal sized crap this morning.
google.
schultz(schmidt) was brought on by the DNC (Obama maladministration) to provide tech access.“former” google executive.
start (begin) looking there.
durham: are you paying attention?
because WE ARE and HAVE BEEN FOR ALMOST 9 years now.
Durham could be holding out charging Rodney Joffe with expectation of an external event happening. Joffe, or someone else deeply involved, could confess the whole scheme and negate the need for Durham to conduct any more prosecutions. Or Joffe could be found with unsubstantiated evidence that he was acquainted with ending associated with Arkansas.
If I were Joffe, I’d be worrying about Arkancide.
Thank you, Sundance.
Sundance is steadfast in responsibility.
who else is going to do it?
buehler? beuhler?
often throughOUT history there is one man/woman, who has the skill, the gift and the courage and the righteous state of mind that changes the entire world.
That man exist today.
His name is Sundance.
Everything else is 3-4 years “late”, at best.
History for those that pay attention to reality will hold high regard to truth tellors and Sundance has set the bar.
God Bless America
If Durham’s job is to protect the institutions of the DOJ and FBI, how does showing that they were so easily duped protect them? The defense that incompetence isn’t criminal doesn’t speak highly of the “greatest” law enforcement bureau in history. This kind of bungling makes inspector Clouseau look brilliant.
Durnham figures it’s better for the people to think they are halfwits rather than criminals.
Because no one in modern history has ever had any consequences due to being an “incompetent” government employee. So they were “duped”. Oops sorry, we’ll make a note of that, have some internal training, and move on.
let me explain: durham (like all prosecutors) can decide which direction and what people will be trialed.
Yes, true, is does make the DOJ/FBI looks miserably nieve.
I would say: the DOJ/FBI doesn’t really give a crapola if the public facing sentiment is that it is a failed organ of the state. After all the years of exceedingly stupid antics and criminal conduct, I would say the DOJ/FBI is not concerned at all what you and I think and feel about them.
Does it matter to Durham is the most important question…because he has the power to change that state of play. Apparently, as Sundance has outlines multiple times, Durham has no interest in taking down the criminals in the corrupt central state of the USG.
I am not defending Durham when I make these opinion. I am simply saying that if durham was EVER going to have a lasting changing impact on DOJ/FBI, he would have more than 9 prosecutors to do that job.
he’s underpowered…and likely on purpose.
The entire right wing of the UniParty Vulture thrives on playing the fool, honor is not the prize for any of these clowns in any branch or organization of government.
Sundance, thanks very much for the continuing and timely facts and analysis.
BTW, the red notes you put in made for much easier reading.
Yes. Thank You Sundance for all of this.
Stunning that at this very moment we are witnessing different bad actors now doing a similar rope-a-dope on Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor-Greene.
Evidently, many of our government agencies are so systemically against our founding fathers American principles even if the rat bastards are convicted who’s going to arrest them.
Much of it was Treason.
A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.
– Marcus Tullius Cicero
… and …
They are freshman Hillary-wanna-bees. They give themselves away so easily. Hillary will go down as the queen of corruption. I realize the likes of Stacey Abrams are saying “hold my beer,” but everyone (or a lot more people than used to) are watching.
I can’t remember that British woman who HATED President Trump ,,, she had a big following and SOMEHOW she is involved in this. She led with the Alfa Bank crap on her twitter feed Mensh …that was her last name
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keep going..you got most of it down.
Louise Mensch.
Is Durham going to lay all this on Hillary? Doesn’t odildo get some blame here?
No. Hillary will be represented as having asked her people to do oppo research, but they went too far and totally without her knowledge. Anyone that is perceived as a weak link will “commit suicide”. Obummer? A former president who was the figurehead for the 4th branch? Consequences? C’mon man!
Exactly.
Is this Obama throwing Clinton under the bus to preserve his “status”?
Whether or not she’s ever charged, THIS DOES SEEM LIKE OGABE’S WAY TO MAKE SURE SHE DOESN’T TRY TO RUN AGAIN.
In addition to protecting the Guilty Kenyan.
Not just prevent Hillary from running again. Ending the Clinton machine’s influence in Democrat politics. Prevent Chelsea from running for office as well.
obama throwing HRC to the wolves….all those folks who chant “lock her up” every time her name is mentioned. And they’re howling for her.
Will she stand trial? Or, will she get away with her crimes like all of them in Washington DC, starting with crooked Biden then crooked Hilary et al!
If charged, she will never see the inside of a court room……medical reasons.
Can’t get past the bollards outside.
President Trump is “partially” vindicated for 2016 only. Then the demented JoeBama issues the pardon “because President Trump set the precedent” by pardoning Scooter Libby and all his cronies investigated Mueller.
Don’t be surprised when it surfaces that Hillary and a few other major characters were granted immunity for testimony and records as “they were duped” by the perps Durham will be allowed to put on trial..
Note: be prepare for zero jail time sentences that align with the “light” sentences handed out to: Flynn, Petreius, James Wolfe, Representative Nunes (after he leaked Presidential Daily Brief), etc.
Left in tact:
The question, how could major agencies of the US Government be involved but none of them are touched?
The question, how could major agencies controlled by the Executive Branch be involved but Obama is not touched?
The question, what is now the predicate for anything done by Mueller, especially to Flynn and Manafort?
The question, how could the FBI and the 17 INTEL agencies be duped for so long as they were cited as validating references by the media and President Trump’s opponents?
…plus many many more questions and un-prosecuted directly related acts??
As an Armored Cavalry Squadron Maintenance Officer and Cavalry Troop XO, I was very familiar with my mechanics using allot of BONDO to patch up truck and jeep fenders. Some brands of BONDO supplied to us were so bad that when one tapped a BONDO repaired fender it actually shattered like glass.
Very good questions. I’m sure the media will get right on them
So if this actually gets a guilty verdict for a conspiracy to defraud the govt,
Can/will the findings be used to pursue the INSIDE the govt actors?
Or is this just the kayfabe that wraps up everything nice and tidy
without touching Hillary?
Note the part of Sundance’s article where he highlights folks who were granted immunity for testimony. That is the answer to your question…the US Government employees are all having flat forehead moments as they suddenly realize they were duped and rushing to Durham’s office with evidence..
The allegations of fact involving “contractors”and access to federal intelligence agencies are pregnant with implication. Those persons in those agencies knew exactly what their tools were, how they were exploited, and the “information” that was generated. They said zero, and enabled the use of the tools even though they knew, they are paid to know, what is authentic and what is not. By their silence, they enabled fraud.
The 17 agencies need to be shuttered.
At least mass firings. Sundance also skipped the recent revelations that Trump was being tracked via geolocation / Yotaphones.
True. Please consult your nearest Webster’s Dictionary for the definitions of “treason” and “misprision of treason.”
So it looks like Obama’s plan to completely bury the Clinton crime syndicate once and for all is moving along at a good clip… Everything by the book, right?
Why yes, depending on what book by which author.
YES, even inside the most corrupt governments there are always factions competing to be top dog.
Back in 2008, during the DNC Primaries there was a picture posted here on CTH that was a parody of “Driving Miss Mazy”. Hillary in the back seat and Obama in chauffeur’s uniform driving the Limo. The caption as i recall, “Hillary’s view of cooperating with Obama”.
It wasn’t “Driving Miss Crazy?” If not, missed opportunity.
“As we have noted, Durham is focused on the people outside government”
Anyone else think they could just call up Baker, or any other FIB/DOJ type or some flunky at the CIA and get a meeting with them?
Yeah, me neither.
Willing accomplices.
Millions of tax payer dollars wasted, peoples reputations ruined, their wealth destroyed.
The Russia Russia Russia hoax/fraud all contrived by treasonous/criminals at the DNC/ Hillary Campaign.
Where do we go to get our Country back?
Rhetorical question?
This country is gone. No going back. But there will be Nationalist alternatives. Probably not much better but alternatives nonetheless.
Do you see any connection with Durham’s investigation and the extradition of Julian Assange?
UK courts recently rules that extradition IS going to happen.
Assange and his legal team have one more shot at appeal.
it goes to the equivalent of the US secretary of state.
In some ways, I am pissed off by this development…
but in other ways, I look forward to the court case where assange will have his day in court and discovery happen.
if that is allowed.
I believe that assange IS a publisher…a journalist too. The issue boils down to the whether or not he had a role in breaking and entering to get secret material.
I think the question many should be having is what is the status is the transgender former army intel specialist, bradley manning?
has manning provided concrete bullet proof testimony against assange in exchange for the DOJ to back off.
Remember: most of the legal court matter is STILL SEALED…grand jury and all.
We KNOW why the USG would want to persecute assange. what we don’t know at this time is what they actually have to prove their case.
I suspect manning was compelled to provide a pressured testimony.
but that gets tests in cross examine and in discovery during a trial.
If assange is to preserve his freedom (not winning his innocence), he will need to have access to the best defense team in the world. The USG might even drop the case and withdrawal if they are threatened by the discovery process.
Prediction: USG offers some kind of plea deal well before assange is flown to the states. Assange will refuse. (he is an extraordinary figure of solid character on these kinds of matters). Then the USG will make up some reason why it will withdraw from the case, and assange goes back to Australia. Thus ends the wikileaks saga, and assange is no longer a threat to the corruptors. He shoots himself in the back of the head 4 times THEN leaps out of a 20 story building . Assange is a very dangerous person to the corruptors. if they cannot secure a riskless conviction and put him in for life, they will simply have him killed.
$35 million for the Mueller probe. Hillary should be sued into oblivion.
Thanks, Sundace. Brilliant analysis, as always! But we all know, that nothing will come of this.
Never does, does it?
Explosive piece of the puzzle. Well done, Sundance.
“However, using federally contracted access to government databases to exploit information, then fraudulently manipulating that information for the expressed intent on defrauding the same government, is a much heavier charge.”
How can you defraud a govt that was actively involved in the operation?
A few points from a non-expert:
1. I believe Durham stated only Dagon had immunity.
2. Some claim the fraud Joffe allegedly committed has a 7-year SOL.
3. All of the fraud parties filed about the same time, coordinated and panicked?
4. In other filings, knowledgeable bloggers (lawyers?) say other members of this crew obstructed justice and lied. But no charges.
5. Five other researchers at Georgia Tech take the Fifth.
6. Big Durham response Monday.
7. Where are the charges for attorney Mark Elias?
8. Key follow: Twitter UndeadFOIA; he / she reportedly has a big dump coming.
9. POSSIBILITY?: Is this just the first of several cases? All this for one count of lying to the FBI?
10. Who does Durham potentially have a focus on?
– Mark Elias
– Joffe
– 5 researchers?
– Danchenko
???
The Medium Ugly unfolding?
– outsiders
– Clinton campaign
– DNC
– Igor Danchenko (D / Brookings Institute)
Dagon is the only name provided, with respect to immunity. “Bull” Durham has not listed anywhere whom he has interviewed nor who he has granted any level of immunity.
Incorrect. In his filings and responses, Durham explains the people immunized, and discusses some of the witnesses.
https://technofog.substack.com/
All fair speculation. Elias has to be an untouchable unless it is something extremely minor. He knows too much in too many directions. <— That opinion and five bucks will get you a cappuccino from your favorite bean hut.
God I want this to matter. We talk about red pills often but the black pill is the hardest to swallow. I try and push it out of my system but it’s a difficult task. Don’t get your hopes up and maybe you get a shiny new toy under the Christmas Tree. Like I said I am hoping there’s still some good.
“My hunch is that Durham is holding back on Joffe because accessing government databases, via a government contract (DARPA) that was not given for that intent, is a bigger set of charges.”
Indeed. Unless we think Joffe did all the grunt work himself, sitting at a computer somewhere late into the nights, there is likely an entirely separate “conspiracy within a conspiracy” here if he tasked other employees or contractors to do it for him or assist him.
Just those little Georgie Technie nerds doing their class homework.
Durham will not see another day of investigation if he touches the government people. Garland will pull him off the job. The government people get things too close to others in the swamp like BO, Brandon, etc.
Some Sleuths who keep on top of this daily, hourly on Twitter:
Techno Fog – attorney?
UndeadFOIA – FOIA hound
Fool Nelson
McCabe’s Porsche on Blocks
Kingmaker – Big IF! (true) – attorney
Walkafyre
Margo Cleveland- attorney & writer for the Federalist
Crazy timing
Barr was put in place to protect the Deep State and he did that. The Deep State wanted Trump gone and Barr helped do that. But there was too much smoke and too many people like Sundance crying “Fire” so Durham was appointed to throw us, we the people, a bone. Somebody not named Clinton will take the fall, just as Web Hubbell and Susan MacDougal did. If she or he won’t go along…
See Jim Macdougal or that Epstein guy. Nothing will change. The Right Wing of the Uniparty is going to take the House and maybe the Senate in Nov and it’ll be back to business as usual. See Bush Clingon Bush Obama Bush or Cli….OOPS
Joffe exploiting contractor access to government databases (GA Tech via DARPA)
Did he exploit or was DARPA a willing provider / partner ?
I will provide a potential answer to my own question : DARPA had much to gain for the return to the status quo. Do not be swayed by the word defense in their acronym .
well, I want scalps, as many as possible.. and I want it to go to the very top three involved Obama, Biden and Clinton.
will it go into the government? I have no idea but i am pretty sure in order to get to that level you first need the outside government swamp creatures first in order to venture into the swamp and collect those creatures.
so i am of the “wait and see” frame of mind with my fingers crossed.
Same here, as many scalps as possible, though there are days I’d consider it a win to learn that at the end of all this work of Durham’s this does not quietly end with a “declined to prosecute” notation.
Yes, “Barr was the Bondo, and Durham is the paint.” I’ll settle for just non-gov’t conspirators, which is actually a lot more than what we’ve ever gotten before. From the beginning I’ve said Bill Barr’s career-long job description has been “Funeral Director.” Send him the bad gov’t stuff and he buries it so deep it doesn’t stink any more. Here are some of Barr gov’t coverup career highlights:
– Fighting CIA document releases to Church Committee;
– Fighting inquiry into CIA bombing assassination of Chilean opposition leader Letelier;
– Burying theft of Inslaw/PROMIS software by CIA & DOJ;
– CIA’s Iran-Contra operations, then pardons for top brass;
– BCCI coverup as global bank of CIA and other intel groups;
– Iraq-Gate/BNL bank – CIA illegal funding of Saddam in war against Iran.
Now we can add Trump-Russia collusion and Spygate to Barr’s sterling career. It’s not much, but did any of us seriously think Durham was going to take down the highest levels of all three branches of gov’t (Judicial branch Supreme Court Chief Justice/FISA Supervisor John Roberts, Legislative branch Senate Intel Committee, and Executive branch Obama and DOJ/FBI)? Durham definitively proves the Witch Hunt was a witch hunt.
When this starts really gaining steam I’m sure pardons will fly before the truth is allowed to be proven
Start with Clinton and expand from there. Treason has no statute of limitations. I don’t think that fraud has statute of limitations. I’m guessing that RICO may not as well.
I think as I read in a post that this case was filed on the single charge of lying to break their claim to attorney-client privilege that they were claiming to hide documents.
What is the purpose of the Durham Investigation?
to sooth MAGA?
good question
Spray paint over the bondo so all 4 branches of the government can continue their corruption, control, and destruction of We The People and our Constitutional Republic.
As an article in todays AmericanThinker points out;
It is prosecutable as fraud to;
Advertise and sell “chocolate bars” which contain no chocolate, or “banana bread” which contains no bananas.
To give false financial information to the FEC, or to a lending institution.
And, your various bunko scams that invariably involve lieing to the “mark” are prosecutable fraud.
However, there is NO law, making it prosecutable fraud to lie about your opponent, in a political campaign; NONE.
This is the genesis for “the MANUFACTURED October surprise”; release deceptive info about your opponent, 2 weeks or less before the election, so the false narrative has time to resonate, but there ISN’T sufficient time, before the election for the truth to emerge. After the election, its “Oh, well, too late to do anything NOW!”
Depending on the nature of the lie, and how it comes out, the victim MAY have a civil action, for defamation, libel or slander, but if done right, they won’t, and its small consolation.
For the HILLARY campaign, this is what they were doing; the steele dossier was a “manufactured Oct. surprise” to insure Hillarys victory, and when the press refused to run it, the campaign tried DESPERATELY to get confirmation of “AN ONGOING FBI INVESTIGATION” so the press would print the story.
However, the second part of the paintjob Durham is spraying on, is that everything that happened AFTER the election, was the FBI being “duped” by the Clinton campaign, and thats what resulted in the appointment of Mueller.
And thats hogwash; we have Comey, in his own words saying he released classified info, to his friend, to leak to the press, for the specific goal of getting a Special Council appointed.
SEPERATE, PARALLEL operation, planned and ordered by McConnell and Ryan, and carried out by the leadershipin DOJ/FBI, intel more broadly, and known as “The Insurance Plan”.
And THIS is what Durham is ignoring, and what his investigation is intended to distract from.
“In the end, it was all a Political dirty trick, gone awry. Maybe we should pass some legislation, so “This never happens again!”
Their problem is,…
WE noticed.
I can only imagine that by now Durham knows that half the FBI, DOJ, CIA and many more are also corrupt but going after them would be a sure fire way for his investigation to be stopped by most corrupt of them all – Biden.
If Durham is only targeting the people outside of government, will someone else be able to complete the job of prosecuting the people within the government with the evidence Durham has gathered?
it would take a government agency with enforcement powers AND integrity to do that….seen any of those around lately?
I certainly hope the statutes of limitation don’t cancel all this investiagting.
Watch out for the Arkancide!
For dragging this country through 6 years of literal hell, these people need to fry.
Funny thing,
the libtards I know think the country has been going through 6 years of hell, too.
At what point does the citizenry recognize that EVERYONE thinks this sucks?
And counting!
BIG WHOOP DE FRICKEN DOO! Even if they prove it all nothing will happen. Even Trump himself said “she(clinton) has been through enough”. The Govt will not do a thing. It protects its own.
anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.
Clear analysis there, SD. So clear that even a government official can understand it and have great difficulty denying it.
Nailed it, Sundance! Thank you for taking the time to translate the court filings. I thought of conspiracy when I saw all the simultaneous filings of defense counsels. Comparing those (and any meta data) will be interesting to see if the defense responses are coordinated.
Barr probably had enough integrity to want to do a bit of cleaning up of the DOJ and FBI, but not so much that the institutions or its loyal actors are harmed. So yes, some of these houses will be quietly cleaned but not investigations, trials of any DOJ actor.
Sundance, you have me convinced that it appears that Durham was allowed to continue only to neutralize the Clinton machine. A minor Clinton actor here or there may serve a year or two, more likely pardoned, but Hillary will not be seriously touched. She knows too much, can finger too many players, so some on her team may get their hands slapped, but not Hill.
Hillary is definitely finished; Chelsea won’t advance; Biden is finished, a placeholder anyway; Bernie is finished, especially at his age and in this economic climate; Kamala is not going to move ahead. Who do the Dims have in the bullpen? Mochelle? She is untested and perhaps unlikeable as a candidate (being a candidate is so different from being First Lady), but she would be Barry’s surrogate. Apparently, what Barry wants from the party, Barry gets. Who does Barry want?
another stand-in with an earpiece
When will the Hubbell spawn Chelsea emerge to run for office?
When Don Jr. announces his run.